How much did THE SUMERIANS know about our SOLAR SYSTEM?
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- Опубликовано: 5 фев 2025
- An exceedingly popular video by Bright Insight proposes that the ancient Sumerians, who lived thousands of years ago, had surprisingly accurate knowledge about our solar system, including knowledge that we ourselves don’t possess. He relies heavily on arguments made by armchair history buff, and ancient astronaut theorist, Zecharia Sitchin. But does Bright Insight’s video tell the truth about history, or does it instead mislead people? Find out where Bright Insight goes wrong as Dr. Miano busts the myth of Sumerian advanced astronomical knowledge.
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ADDENDUM: In the video, I suggested that the figure pictured in the middle of the seal might be the seal's owner, but in fact, that person is probably a minor god. The horned helmet is an indication of divinity. He is leading by the hand the figure on the far left, which is more likely the seal's owner, who is holding a sacrificial lamb, which he is presenting to the major god on the right.
References and recommended reading:
Bright Insight’s original video:
• The Sumerians...They D...
Definition of Anunna/Anunnaki:
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Analysis of the word Nibiru/Nēbiru in Mesopotamian texts:
cdli.ucla.edu/...
Michael Heiser’s analysis of cylinder seal VA 243:
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Comprehensive analysis of Sumerian astronomical texts by Wayne Horowitz:
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English translation of the Enuma Elish:
www.etana.org/n...
On the Sumerian version of the Great Flood:
www.livius.org...
On the origin of the asteroids in the asteroid belt:
news.ufl.edu/a...
On the idea that cuneiform tablets are gathering dust in museum basements:
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Professor Miano's handy guide for learning, "How to Know Stuff," is available here:
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Butterflies migrate thousands of kilometers: cool
Ancient humans have long trade routes or travel far for raw materials or religious purposes: they must have had charging stations for their Teslas.
The more we dig the more we realize humans have been trading merchandise over long distances further and further back in time. (Goods travel not necessarily the persons; my Subaru was made in Japan but one person did not personality convey it all the way.)
@@christophercripps7639 Goods and ideas, the silk road goes back thousands of years and Ancient Egypt got Lapis Lazuli from what is now Afganistan.
@@christophercripps7639 My Toyota was assembled in Canada out of Japanese and North American parts. There is evidence that the Bronze of the Bronze Age also was assembled into products that required resources from [current] Iran, Turkey, Cyprus and other sources, and the supply being interrupted or running out is connected to the civilizational collapse.
@@JMM33RanMA Hoping the current chip shortage doesn't yield a similar outcome.
@@christophercripps7639 a massive power outage because were all dependent upon a thread for our power could causing a collapse. I think they use electric pumps to pump drinking water for thousands of cities.
Looking through some of your comment threads, I see that fairly often you get criticized for being "too sarcastic" and the like. I think that from a persuasion standpoint you've got it just about right, but watching the clips (and in the past, some of the LAHT crowd's whole videos) I'm impressed with how well you're able to hold yourself back. ;) 1) These guys spend their whole videos sneering at "mainstream" "orthodox" archaeologists and historians and accusing them of being part of an evil cabal out to deliberately hide the truth from us. 2) Then, with nearly unlimited cockiness, they toss out their hypotheses as Proven Fact on the flimsiest of evidence ("Look! A picture of one circle surrounded by a bunch of other circles, but I can't be arsed to find out what the rest of the pictures are or what the text says!"), and from there they often climb out on an even thinner branch of wild speculation of the "so they *must* have had psionic power crystals!" variety. 3) They do this without even knowing what the "mainstream" "orthodox" archaeologists and historians think or why they think it. 4) Because the "mainstream" "orthodox" scholar they're actually sneering at is their high school history teacher, and the three-page chapter on the Sumerians (or Egyptians, Mayans, or whoever) in their school textbook, from which they were expected to extract a few names and dates to regurgitate for a test at the end of the week.
It would be one thing if these folks could fairly represent the mainstream position and the evidence used to get there, and still make compelling arguments for their own side. Heck, I wish they could, because who wouldn't want to discover a mysterious ancient lost civilization rich in astonishing capabilities and deep esoteric wisdom?
I'm fortunate to not know any of these clowns personally, or I'd show them a Pimp's Love. This dude's restraint should qualify him for sainthood in Sumerian, Zoroastrian, or any number of religions...
They also lack critical thinking as well as knowledge of the real past. These people almost always default to the Bible or Homer or other non-historical accounts. Their method is that of apologists like William Lame Craig: 1. make a supposition, 2. state that the supposition being true proves hypothesis x, 3. Hypothesis x being true, Theory Y is true, 4. Repeat ad nauseam.
Just imagine the truth that was discovered in the great ancient library of Alexandria. Then all of a sudden it was burned to the ground. I wonder why 🤔
Yep. Sarcasm of Dr. Milano is totally justified.
You would be surprised how many don't want to know. I found something the vast majority haven't a clue about and is touched upon here with the seven dots being the Pleiades. There is symbology of this in Gobekli Tepe carved on the base of one of the central pillars in Enclosure D of a row of seven birds. See the video : Prehistory Question Time LIVE! | THURS 17TH MARCH 2022, 20:00 GMT at 37:25 to see real science at work, they laugh and incredulously shut down communication!
As a fellow PhD (in Anthropology in my case), I congratulate you for dismissing all these conspiracy theories with eloquence! Thank you! :D
How would you respond to the critics who say that you are dismissing evidence to claim the a priori bias that your science is factual? There has been a lot of evidence that has been dismissed, so how can you reconcile that?
We all know that science is just interpretation of data, so how would your interpretation be truthful compared to someone else's interpretation of the same data sets? I know, I know, if they don't agree with your interpretation, then they are just pseudo-scientists. But then, if they went to the same university as you, had comparable grades as you, and did as many research studies and peer reviewed articles as you, then how do you prove your interpretation is not pseudo-science?
The reason why there are so many "conspiracy theories" is because it has been your side who has not been afraid to make hoaxes and deny evidence. Piltdown Man is just one example. For years, your side taught that was absolute fact, but turns out it was just a hoax.
Unless your side addresses that there are indeed scientists on your side willing to hoax, then you will always have to challenge "conspiracy theorists" because their theory is that it is your side in the conspiracy.
Research is simply research, interpretation is what is offered.
@@Ssssiiiiii622 Always been that way
I am with you
Brilliant so Zachariah Sitchen was more fluent at Ancient Hebrew than his Rabbi when Zachariah was 8 yrs old. He died less than ten years ago and there are over 8 decades that this Brilliant scholar has been studying Ancient Sumeria and he worked putting dead languages back to life and could speak Sumerian Cuneiform and Akkadian Cuneiform before You couple of years part timers. Look up the meeting with Zachariah Sitchen and professor Harrington from NASA JPL they both individually projected Nibiru's orbit and they were identical. Many Astronauts have also complimented Zachariah Sitchen's work on the Solar system which he translated from the Sumerian Cuneiform with the orbits of even Pluto and every planet we have now where did You imagine such accuracy not even discovered by the establishment at the time as usual.
Work out how much effort the church put into trying to ruin Zachariah Sitchen.
The stupid girl in this interview didn't seem to know what planet she was on or when her periods are due.
Eric von Daniken is NO ZACHARIAH SITCHEN BUT AT LEAST HE ADMITS WHEN HE WAS WRONG. HE WOULD CHANGE EVERY REPRINT.
BUT ZACHARIAH IS THE MAN.
It's people like you who perpetuate the huntyer-gatherer stone age bollocks. We've been lied to for so long because academics were so ignorant.
Man the amount of research you must do is incredible. Thank you for doing this. I'm extremely interested in these topics and there's so much rubbish out there it's great to find someone clearing it up a bit.
Glad you enjoyed it!
So much research? Can't even look at a high school history book? Still waiting for this guy to prove his assertions rather than just talk. Get some volunteers and carve a perfect 500 ton block of stone with primitive technology, and move it even an inch. When he makes that video I will be interested.
Nah, This is all basic middle school stuff.
@@Whitewater_and_Wild_Mushrooms I gave him a shot too. I thought to myself "Maybe I AM missing something or just WANT to believe" But after watching many of his videos and comparing what he claims to what is known fact I am unimpressed and unsubscribed.
@@GalactusOG yes you unsubscribed thats why you are watching this video.
I’ve developed quite a disdain for the “bright insight” type channels. Lies and misrepresentations of facts, being used to manipulate those who fee the desire to fight an authority figure, and feel superior to said authority figure
Dumbasses leading the dumb
Sadly this has been going on since at least the 1920s.
Like Liberals.
@@iceyardfan4394 Man, I hope you aren't one of those guys who complains about Leftists inserting politics into everything. Cuz here you are on a video about Sumerian astronomy espousing your political views.
@@PreciselyOneMyfi Did I make a movie about my political beliefs?
Minor quibble about the imagery on the VA 243 cylinder seal impression: the figures with horned headdresses are both gods. The human in the scene is the one on the left, without horns. This type of scene is called a “Presentation Scene,” and shows a minor god interceding between the human and a major god (i.e., the minor god is presenting the human to the major god). The human here is carrying a sacrificial goat.
The horned headdresses are markers of divinity, and Naram-Sin only starts being depicted wearing one late in his reign, after he’s declared himself divine.
Thank you for sharing this information! I’m embarrassed now I got that wrong. But what you say makes perfect sense.
@@WorldofAntiquity Don't be embarrassed! It's pretty esoteric stuff, and I only chimed in because I was working on a lesson about cylinder seals for my students, so this was on the top of my mind, when I saw your video.
@@WorldofAntiquity You could always keep a list of errors and do an errors video correcting mistakes. No one can know everything so mistakes are bound to happen from time to time.
While we are correcting mistakes: Mr. Zimmerman, can you change the transliteration of the "pu-abi" seal that you and Zettler give on page 288 in "TWO TOMBS OR THREE? PG 789 AND PG 800 AGAIN!" from PÚ to PÙ? At least on the academia edu version. I guess it was a typo (PÚ being LAGABxU and PÙ being KAxKÁR), but the hapax nature of that name makes understanding it already difficult enough to have misinformation floating around out there.🙃
Oh no! You got a minor detail that doesn't affect your thesis wrong! It must have been space aliens after all!
I am a middle school social studies teacher and the Sumerians are covered extensively in 6th grade , a whole chapters worth
I'm sorry for your pupils!
I discovered you from Stefan Milo, and I was not disappointed. Great work. Newly subscribed.
Awesome, thank you!
Good chap Stefan Milo. I "discovered" this Channel twice. Once by accident and again from a recommendation by Study of Antiquity & Middle Ages (SAMA). I rushed to subscribe after seeing SAMA's post only to find I had already subscribed.
Stefan is an incredible RUclipsr couldn't agree more. He is careful at how he says things and how he gives you the information. That is someone you can trust.
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I only have great great admiration towards you.
You are doing a stupendous work.
Demolishing the false arguments of sensation seeking,ignorance spreading ppl is not easy.
You are doing it with a lot of patience,deep knowledge and great passion.
May your tribe grow.
Thank you!
I’m so happy that I’ve found your channel! I used to be an ancient aliens fan 😅 I don’t even know if I believed the theory for real, but it was so exciting. Honestly, it’s easier for someone like me to find conspiracy content since it’s so popular. You are doing a great job! Thank you 🥰❤️
And thank you, Alice. Glad to have you here!
The astronaut show is good because it's similar to older documentaries in it's cadence and lack of audio fluctuations along with cool videos of ancient stuff. I treat it like a poe style show.
I was always a fan of these types of things and really enjoyed thinking about the possibility even if I did think it was very speculative. I also am very happy to have found this channel and I love the fact that Mr. Antiquity provides actual evidence and does a pretty good job at covering and debunking these conspiracy theories. I am currently binging on this channel. That said we got a great show from all the ancient alien theories, Stargate SG 1. I guess I am trying to say that some good can come out of nonsense.
Actually, the tablets are very real, nothing false about them. You're just commenting for likes. No one knows where the tablets came from, yet you accept them as true.
Thank you very much. Iv been trying to convince people but that seems to be a waste of time. Now I can show them this. Many thanks Brother.
Really enjoying your videos! I went to two high schools and can confirm both covered the Sumerians. In the first- We covered Sumer in freshman history, I believe it was a full unit, but minor focus could also have been given to Assyria and Babylon. And in the second (although I didn’t take it myself) Ancient Civ covered Sumer because that was the freshman diorama project every year
It’s refreshing to find an actual qualified historian on the YT.
There are a few of us.
Ya but only one good one (David)
"Pass by 7 planets" pretty much invalidates Bright's entire approach. Would his brain explode at how big the orbits are? Or that Mercury, on average, is the closest planet to ALL the other planets? It's like he saw an image with all the planets in their order in the solar system and just thought you'd have to cruise past all of them to get to Earth.
"Influential is not the same as scientifically advanced." Afreakingmen! Describes ALL of the conspiracy theories and how they suck in the ignorant!
There's "Ancient Aliens" on the *_HISTORY_* Channel, for crying out loud! Knowing that there are people like you, doing the real work, and sharing the real knowledge, gives me hope!
I just recently found you, and am wandering through the treasure trove of videos you've shared. Thank you for what you are doing!
(Edited typo)
Thanks, and welcome to the channel!
Take your pills lady.
The Sumerians used advanced donkeys 😉
@@scienceexplains302 High performance asses,
I was hoodwinked by all this sitchen crap for DECADES. I TOTALLY believed it all. Watching this channel for 2 weeks has changed ALL of that. The arguments, and the TONE of how they are presented here, are so genuine, it totally opened my eyes back to reality.
I am happy to hear that!
You went ftom enlightened to blind my friend , and i have seen it alt recently through the existing war and conflict between ENKI and ENLIL on earth
You vaxxed and boosted?....lol
@@9Sumerian - Reality is so enthralling, exciting, and wonderful - why do you feel the need to fabricate?
He need to research more , few knowledge and wisdom and you consider yourself eligible to publish a video
*some farmer 5000 years ago:* I'm putting a few stars on this seal so my signature looks cool
*people in the 21st century:* ...and this is proof aliens created humanity
Ha, that's pretty much it.
I consider myself an expert in near orient ancient history. And i must say, its been a while that I watch a real good video in english like yours.
I am very tired to see mediocre videos about the Summerians etc... So I value a lot your knowledge.
Hugs from Toledo, Spain
Which Spanish language channels would you recommend?
Many wrong or sensationalized things come from Bright Insight's channel. Good video.
Thank you!
Chuck! You're here!
❤💜❤
cfapps, pot meet kettle. your your channel is full of clickbait for views and $. You were exposed by others a while ago, RUclips: "Why cfapps7865's Sphinx Theory is all wrong". It wasn't just wrong, it was down right deceitful. Also RUclips his videos on ruins off the coast of Florida. Sad.
@@dougv3142 lol typical. RUclips lurker makes self feel better putting other people down. 😔 Yawn.
@@dougv3142 so tell me then, what *is* that thing off of Florida then?
I found your channel through Matt of Ancient Architects. As someone who is subscribed to Bright insight and other channels alike, I value the work you do and appreciate the historical academic perspective.
Agree. I often commented Matt channel, he try to do a real work, like History for granit too. Sometimes I go correcting some claims, but this is because there a gap between hypothesis and imagination. Sometimes there's simple responses wich are simply logical, or concrete like me having goats, so understanding the needs hunter gatherers had to keep animals more than hunting them. Or that a roof on a T pillar can't be heavy... I note most channels are downgrading actually to conspiracy and stupid hypothesis, hope Matt will stand Right.
I've been binge watching your videos for days now, (wish I would have found you earlier). One thing is certain in my mind, the truth about history is actually more interesting than these alternative theories. My historical knowledge is more recent in time, colonial America through the 19th century. This is what I've studied most over the last 30 years. My knowledge of ancient history is seriously lacking. Your videos are inspiring me to learn more about ancient history and I thank you for that. I've learned so much already !!
@ironcladranchandforge7292 - "...the truth about history is actually more interesting than these alternative theories." - - - Yes, you are completely correct!
At the end of your video, you mentioned going to university to learn ancient history. I've always loved history, but never pursued it as a career. I'm in my early 30's now and I'm wondering if there's any realistic career prospects for someone starting out at my age in this field. Thank you for your time, and thank you for your videos.
You can start at any age. I was a late bloomer myself. A history degree can get you a job in a lot of fields unrelated to history, but if you really want to have a profession in ancient history, you would most likely end up teaching college or with a museum job. Neither of them pay that much. So you wouldn't be doing it for the money. You'd be doing it because you enjoy it.
Found your channel from the atun-shei atlantis video and you’ve become one of my favorite channels on here
Perfect for learning while picking away at the tedium of invoices and expense sheets
I was in High School in the 90's and we definitely learned about the Sumerians in World History. Maybe not a comprehensive amount, considering we had to learn about all of world history in a single school year, but it covered the basics.
27:50: The guy who thinks the Sumerians knew about Pluto is calling the experts who debate whether or not it is a planet "stupid".
Hahahahahaha
We did a whole unit (several weeks worth of study) on Mesopotamian history in 7th grade, not totally exclusive to just studying Sumerians, to be fair, but we started with them and it was more than just a few sentences. I'm sure our textbook was lacking and outdated in many ways, but it was still a decent study for 12 year olds. This was in Canada about 15 years ago for what it's worth. Love your channel so far by the way. Thanks for doing what you do! :)
I appreciate that. Thanks for coming by!
That's cause the Sumerians used the same info we use today
In Brazil we cover the sumerians in middle school
As one of your newest subscribers, I have to say, this video and channel are amazing! I found it through SAMA, and boy am I glad I did!
Thank you, and welcome!
Amazing video, very informative and easy to understand. You definitely deserve more subscribers!
I appreciate that!
Love the amount of research put into these videos! 👍🏻 Great stuff. Keep up the good work!
Big disinformation
17:59 looks more like this image depicts night and day. Left is night with moon. Right is day with sun. Stars normally have 8 points in all the other images you showed. Except this image and the original image of this videos topic.
I appreciate this channel. You’ve gained a subscriber. I think it’s important for one to search for as much information as possible when educating yourself on these topics. And we need to be mindful of who and how the info is being presented.
I will admit I was totally swept away with the “lost ancient technology” theory. I heavily bought into Bright, X, Hancock and the others. But after watching some of your videos I am not so convinced. If anything I am left with even more questions than when I started all of this. I had no idea that the viewpoints on this were so heavily divided. Thanks again for the content.
Long long ago I also bought into Hancock, tarot cards, astrology, chariots of the gods. Then saw the great debunk of the last named on tv. The lies that man told. I also found a huge tome in the library on astrology. Giving tons of details on how to draw up a horoscope. Then made the mistake, or not, of reading the positive and negative attributes of each star sign. Soon came to realise they were just variations on a theme. I could apply each and everyone to myself.
@@helenamcginty4920 psychologists were also hugely surprised that there are only five (six?) very general and rather vaguely definable categories that stably characterize personality. And all that after more than hundred years of limited research. Most of the traits that can be used to analyze a person are linked to some pathologies (narcissistic, psychopatic, paranoic, borderline, delusional, schyzofrenic...😊).
Good video. I'm fascinated by the Summarian base 60 mathmatics system that somehow is still with us in regard to time and geographic location. Can you do a video that?
18:52 these 3 symbols are more likely the 3 most important symbols of the sky. North star, moon, sun. That's why the sun and star are in a circle.
The last time I visited the Ashmolean Museum (in Oxford) I was thoroughly distracted by their display of cylinder seals. Fascinating and beautiful, covering different civilisations, and well worth visiting.
Great video. Anyone promoting Sitchin unironically has a serious credibility problem. Hopefully Bright will take your videos to heart and improve his research methods.
I am a very minor scholar of ancient history, yet i wouldn't have watched that young man's presentation... from the little bit i know it was very obvious he knew less about the Sumerians than i do. Thank you Dr. David, for telling us lots of interesting facts re. the ancient Sumerians 🤗 i didn't need the "de-bunking", yet i loved the info you gave!! I might be too late (old 😊) to go to University to study full time...?
I really appreciate that you approach your critiques with an openness that could allow for new information. You welcome people to present their evidence.
We need more channels like you. Great work debunking alternative history.
Agreed
@@pranays No real person with an IQ above 71 believes this nonsense. The Sumerians had more info than you'll ever have
Even if the Sumerians knew about axial precession (which they probably didn't), all that would be required is to keep track of the position of the stars and compare it every year, which being one of the earliest civilizations to adopt a writing system, would be doable without the need for aliens or a hyper-advanced civilization, unless they were unable to look up.
in middle school (probably like 7th grade?) i had my first world history class and we had a whole unit on ancient mesopotamia, which definitely included the sumerians. and this was in rural coal country pennsylvania, so idk where this notion that no one ever learns about the sumerians comes from. maybe it was different before and/or after my time but we learned quite a bit about them. i had the term "fertile crescent" just absolutely hammered into my brain, lol. we read a translation of the enuma elish and everything.
I remember being upset about pluto being "demoted" when i was like, 6 years old
it's crazy that there are full grown adults who still throw a tantrum over this
I know it's likely you will not see this comment but I have to state what a pleasure it is to see these "disposable" videos being shown for what they are. Thank you for doing this.
26:29 could be a way to depict non shiny celestial bodies.
Thank you so much for always
being so informative and
with actual facts.
Thank you sharing the truth!!! 🙏🏻❤️
I am always excited to learn more about history+ other cultures!!
I am learning so much from you,
thank you!! Keep up the great work!! Greetings from Sydney Australia😊
26:49 since he's a farmer. It could represent 12 months of harvest.
They knew how long it took the visible planets, Moon and Sun to travel through the Zodiac and understood the sun's relation to the seasons and that's pretty much about it. Unless I'm mistaken, they didn't know certain comets returned after so long nor did they know about the astroid belt, Kuyper Belt, Pluto or even Neptune and Uranus .
22:24 the missing triangle piece, (at approximately 1 O'clock), has been found, and placed. There's a good video of the British museum, (where the map is located), presented, by Irving Finkle. One of his students found the piece, in a forgotten box of pieces, in the museum's collection.
Museums do NOT have display space for their entire collections. Typically, they have room to display less than ONE PERCENT of the object that they possess at the same time. They typically display them on a rotating basis, with due consideration to the fragility of the objects.
Refreshing to see not another 'fun fact' history channel. I love watching those types of videos to get exposed to ancient history, but I forget how one sided those videos can get! Thanks for your video! You did seem super nit picky about everything but they were reasonably nit picked
Thanks again, this channel has easily become one of my new favorites : ) The clarifications are well presented and eliminate any wiggle room for pseudo-science. Love it!
I wanted to ask quickly about the advent of the wheel, if I may. What are your thoughts on the toy bull (with wheels) from the Cucuteni-Trypillia culture? What do you the chances could have been that they could have used wheels for transportation? Also given that chariots originated from a nearby location (albeit being distanced by time), what do you think the chances would be that these cultures possessed the wheel but the remains of which have been lost to time?
PS - I am an educator and I can add that Mesopotamian cultures ARE taught in the British curriculum (KS4-5), though not extensively, of course.
I think it is entirely possible that they used the wheel there. From what I understand, there is quite a bit of evidence for wheel use in that area at that time.
Sheesh... last night I paused after the first minute of this video, to put a pin on the other video and browse the content of that channel's videos. Right away something smelled way off with the lurid clickbait titles, but it was time for bed, so I put off continuing until now, which is one day later.
Here I am again, watched THIS video, and I've seen more than enough to keep this excellent channel on my feed and block the other rubbish one forever.
Man oh man, does sensationalist misinformation gaming the algorithm rub me the wrong way with sandpaper.
As a night owl, I remember Stitchin and his gold-loving aliens, on that 90s late night AM radio conspiracy crapfest Coast To Coast with Art Bell.
My sympathies to Dr Miano for having to grapple with the stinky mud of that other channel. The hero we need.
Absolutely love these videos. I can't for the life of me understand why you're subscriber count is so low. Also have to say I find it hilarious how offended people get in these comments for the person's videos that you are talking about. It seems a bit ironic all these alternative history people cry about how they are discriminated against by the mainstream archaeological community but when someone does engage with them and goes against the theories they are proposing they turn around and do the same thing. All the comments in all your videos against you are more than proof of it. Maybe that's why people don't engage with them often....
These videos are terrible. When you say the great pyramid is a tomb all of you credibility is gone. Mainstream archaeologists aren’t even part of the discussion anymore.
I listened to Stichen's book, (sorry about the misspell) and enjoyed it. Even if you listen to it as fiction, I got a kick out of it. Eric Cline's book about the mysterious ending of the bronze age I thought was scholarly and accurate??? Thoughts?? The twelfth planet is fun and peaked my curiosities about a period in time that we still know si little about. I appreciate what you are doing here to bring some light. I think there are all a lot of cueniform tablets to go through. I look forward to more light in this dark corner. Thanks again...
So. In summary, Bright is not bright.
He is bright enough to have smooth brains give him money for telling fairytales. Conniving? Yes. Stupid? Not so much.
26:54 So its possible the depiction is of a constellation. Maybe the one for his zodiac sign. Virgo is the only constellation with 12 stars 😊 mystery solved. Y'all welcomed 😌
I do like watching bright insight, not for the science but for entertainment he’s obviously a sandwich short of a picnic
Late comment, but Bright's saying that "people only lived half our ages back then" is a common misunderstanding of average life expectancy. People didn't drop dead at 35-40 from old age. Infant and youth mortality (disease/violence) brought the life expectancy age down. Consider; an infant dies before its 1st year is over and an old man dies at 80. The average life expectancy is 40. We have many records in ancient history of people living to old age. Antipater (81), Parminion (70 when assassinated), Augustus (75), Tiberius (77). Alexander was considered young when he died at 32. These are reliable ages written down. dating through anthropology (bone fusion, growth, healed injuries/diseases) shows this was the case even further back in history/pre-history.
Thank you. I enjoyed this very much. As a physical scientist with an interest, from childhood, in the Bronze Age, fed by visits to the Penn museum and reading Samuel Noah Kramer, I am very irritated by grifters who profit from broadcasting misinformation. Since I don’t have time to refute them, I’m glad you are doing it. I appreciate the time and careful attention to detail in this presentation.
lol. Another useless " scientist"
I’m absolutely loving your work and the content on this channel. It’s like a breath of fresh air.
I have spent many years of study dedicated to the gods of ancient times and then here comes aliens. I’m not terribly close minded so I gave these theories a good sporting chance. Then, I began to notice inconsistencies piling up and it seemed that translating ancient tablets, glyphs, etc. wasn’t exactly the most important part of their… agenda???… if that’s the correct word I’m not sure but let’s say agenda. So, I got rather exhausted by trying to find legitimate information regarding ancient Mesopotamia and their deities whilst sifting out what was alien agenda and what was proper academic work.
Now, I’m learning to read the cuneiform myself. Not even beginning with Akkadian but jumping straight into the Sumerian. My interest in the Ancient gods is global but I felt that learning this ancient writing, learning this ancient language was more important than all the others because I can’t rely on translations from Mesopotamia. So to see someone like yourself who actually possesses sound and logical reasoning skills and is not coming at the subject from the point of some alien agenda or even a biblical agenda… just, thank you.
Thank you so much.🥹🥰💕
PS: I’m aware that this is an older video but I only just found your channel and I’m so glad that I did. Searching through so much of this alien stuff really began to take a toll on me so I guess maybe I would have found this when it was new if not for my hiatus away from the whole of RUclips as it pertains to this subject. Thank you again
Thank you for your content. I hate to admit how gullible I was before seeing your video, this information is greatly appreciated. Keep up the good work!
Thank you!
The star surrounded by 12 smaller ones that Bright says depict a solar system, might be the Golden Gate of the ecliptic with a the big star going thru the gate. However things going thru that gate are normally Planets - not stars. So it is still a bit of an enigma, what it really depicts.
Here's the thing.....these cultures are amazing. What we know about them is amazing (minus the slavery part). They don't need additional "Wow." P.s. There wasn't a world flood. Yes, some cultures talk about it, but the scientific evidence for a world flood doesn't exist. There is evidence for some big floods in part of the world and if you only knew about part of the world, it is understandable that you (a member of an ancient culture) would think the entire world flooded, but the world never experienced such a thing (at least while mankind was around).
Agreed!
Yes.
The garden is beautiful without us having to believe fairies live in it as well.
This has to be one of the biggest and most effective smackdown of one of these so-called alternative theory videos. Dr. Miano's patience and detail is exemplary and instructive. Thank you!
Another great video. A lot of these youtube guys don’t really teach history, just sensationalism and conspiracy. Not real history, archaeology, or science. They just use clickbait and want to appeal to the masses. Kinda like ancient aliens.
It sucks that his misinformation was viewed 3.7 million times and this correct account of history got 87k views.
Great to see someone debunking that creep. You could go much harder on him though, exposing his logical fallacies and his perverse, sickening way of seducing people.
Example: when he says there are 3 lines about the sumerians in high school, the sickening strategy is to present himself as the nice guy who is going to reveal the "truth" that "they" are hiding. It is sickening front the start.
This SHIT needs to be exposed
I think mixing up Sumerian with Akkadian is a reflection on our public educational system in America and lack of accessibility (ie gotta pay tuition or buy a book) on the subjects.
Thank god for RUclips
Your explanation of the purported "solar system" certainly seems reasonable to a layman--in any case it certainly is not a solar system. I am impressed that a maker of seals would have that type of technical knowledge of the calendar. I would not expect a modern graphic designer to know much about modern science. I suppose back then any person who learned to write also got a complete liberal education including most of what was believed true.
34:43 the moon isn't always in the crescent moon phase. And there is 12 phases of the moon. So it could be a depiction of the moon cycle. And the middle one is a lunar or solar eclipse. 😮
Another fantastic video, thanks so much for your valuable contribution to science and reason.
I have a friend who is totally convinced by all this alternative history stuff, including Bright Insight. I don’t see him often now, but I need to try and get him to watch your series.
First you need to figure out why and how much that person wants to/need to believe in that kind of stuff.
Most of the time there are very personal, rather subjective and often hidden (vague, forgotten or subconscious) motives for a person's worldview.
If you really care about the friendship than to realize the way how the other one forms conclusions is more precious and helpful than simply trying to convince about...
Most of us are not that bright minded as evolution lured us to believe and since education also emphasized factual knowledge instead of being able to critically evaluate the actual weight of certain types of facts and being able to connect the scientifically relevant dots ...
However most of the people doesn't really have a scientific mindset. Most of them have no real idea how hard earned are the achievements in sciences. Mostly know only about the "sensations" but not about the patience and humbleness required to learn all the background stuff, about the constant re-evaluation based on such details they can't even conceive of...
And on top of their ignorance even they are the ones who like to play the offended "researcher" if someone criticizes their pet theories and "theories"
Great videos! Could you do a video on some of the claims made by Graham Hancock and Brien Foerster?
Yes I can.
World of Antiquity great! I’ll be looking forward to it!
Thank you for your interesting videos . I really appreciate the methodology you use. On the one hand you point out the obvious error used by this young man who based his findings on a seal and not on any scholarly texts left by the Samarian society, and on the other hand you reveal what actual professional historical scholars have found to be the truth regarding the astronomical perceptions of the Samarian culture. You are teaching all who listen to your videos more about the Samarian people.
I would like to ask you something very pertinent to studies I have done on the flood. I have heard that the tablet found containing 'The Epic of Gilgamesh' is believed to have been made a long time after Gilgamesh died. On another of your videos you revealed that Samaria had many scholars who copied existing documents as part of their training. Is it possible that although The Epic of Gilgamesh at the time could have been considered an ancient document that its status as a well written and composed ode by a famous author made it a very appreciated piece of literature, well worth copying, not unlike the works of Shakespeare? I personally read it very carefully and I found certain parts very interesting. The description of how the elements behaved at the outset of the flood. The similarities between the Biblical story on how the people on the boat knew that the flood was over and they could disembark from the Ark and the area where the old man who commissioned the building of the Ark lived all peaked my interest. I even researched the area of Shurrupak as the possible area where Noah (peace be upon him) himself lived. The area now is just a desolate piece of desert and yet archaeological digs have found that near there are the ruins of ancient grain silos which pointed to the possibilty that it was once very fertile land. The description of how he lived very humbly and isolated also ties up with what Muslims believe about the prophet.
Apart from the inclusion of their own pagan gods and how the boat was equipped more like a pleasure cruise ship a lot of it is interesting and mirrored in the Hebrew, Christian and Muslim Holy books. The only major difference between these documents is that the Quran does not say that every person on the Earth perished who were not on the Ark.
Always great to see your videos that debunk wild theories presented as fact. It is embarrassing how many credulous people fall victim to all the pseudo-science out there.
I've always equated these "alternative archeologists/historians" as story tellers not history educators. They present themselves as the smartest in the room, but after thorough dismantling of their shtick in channels like this one, they're only fools with an audience. They're getting rich on account of people's gullibility, lack of critical thinking and laziness to further their own knowledge on a given subject from solid reputable sources. Thank you for another video that gives back people their true history knowledge.
Prof David, I am gradually going through your videos. They are wrecking my romance with the alternative versions. When I was a kid I was fascinated by Richard Halliburton's Royal Road to Romance. Btw - there is no damn way the Sumerians knew about Pluto. Impossible.
I am happy to hear I am shattering your dreams! haha
Hello! I would love to see your thoughts on the “handbag” or as Graham H. says “Manbag phenom”. Love your videos, thank you for posting these counter arguments. I have struggled to fact check popular folks like Graham and Ben, I love listening to them and definitely am drawn to some of the ideas they present. As a biologist, my world is cells and pathology, history is my hobby! Randal C. is also extremely interesting to listen to, and when I hear him speak I feel like I am listening to a professor as he seems to always cite his sources. Thanks again!! I will watch all your videos for sure!
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Very well done once again. I apologize I was gone for a while I was in vacation. I'm intrieged how real work doesn't get a lot of attention as false work and people still believe it without doing the research themselves. Although I'm surprised you didn't mention the man standing in the disk that flys. If I'm wrong I will accept your claim and do further research on my work. Lastly did you researched Wayne Herschels works on Atlantis ?I know half of the information is incorrect but what is your review on it?. Did it leave you any interests?. Also it doesn't matter if you do or do not do a review on it I will appreciate your works either way ☺
Yes, I took a look, but there is a lot of material that will require some time to go through. We'll see how things go.
Hi, great channel, when you quote ancient texts, I wonder how the pronunciation of words is determined?
I have just watched this for the second time and am really appreciating again the time you spend carefully addressing the claims. I also learn more about Sumerian at the same time, so I thank you.
🙏 In Lalitha shasranamam(1000 names of the Godess) vedic text . it says : Sumeru madhya Sringasta. Does this refers to the Sumeria? 🙏❤️
I'd wonder why aliens seemingly had such little impact? The agricultural revolution took place thousands of years before Sumer, and the domestication of wild plants and animals took thousands of years, the transition from hunter gatherers to semi-sedentary semi-farming communities with new tools like the space aged rocks-stuck-in-a-stick-scythe, then thousands of years later pottery emerging, larger cities and temples and social hierarchies and ALL thousands of years before written Sumerian history. Sumer wasn't some anomaly that suddenly poofed into existence, needing to be explained away by aliens.
They didn't even teach people to wash their hands.
This comment deserves more likes in order to be seen by those who accidentally wondered off from those alternative "research" channels
Thank you for this video! I could never have watched Bright's video without knowing you would make sense of it for me. (first time visitor BTW) Yeah I remember Sitchin--he's the one who made it almost impossible to find any real information on the internet about Nibiru, because he said it was the 12th planet. (The truth is out there LOL!!) There's a lot of comments on Bright's video saying how wonderful his know-it-all attitude was and even more from others testifying they were taught about the Sumerians in school. It's terrible how some people have made so much money by interpreting the images and icons from a culture they really never studied because they know "what" it looks like. Sorry for the rant. Thank you for setting the record straight!
Month stars makes more sense in an agricultural society. The Sumerians needed to know when to plant & etc. The planets by their very nature ("wanderers") have little utility for prediction of seasons (Mile flood, monsoons).
Deity to Sumerian: There are 11 planets.
Sumerian Astronomer: That's an unfalsifiable hypothesis until you can prove to me there are six more than I can see.
Like and subbed sir. Docs and non fiction is pretty much all I watch on yt and there is allot of clickbait attention and clout seekers on the internet.
It's refreshing to see things being checked.
I love it when you pronounce Akkadian/Sumerian words. Could listen all day. Your videos are very good.
Thanks!
5:05 I thought this was a tetramorph!! it was common in a lot of exoteric representations in ancient times. very cool to check it out also
Thanks for reacting to Jimmy brights videos in this way, I have watched some of them months ago and was quite shocked of how many views it has despite the obvious mistakes and false claims he is doing. Also he is throwing the words "scientific evidence" around like candy on carnival, while most of the time he just has a slight incidence (if at all). He's mixing up a lot of things and noone seemed to care. Thanks for debunking him and giving a critical view on those videos
thanks for clarifying so much about ancient history, the work your putting in is well needed. ive totally been misled by a bunch of different channels. thanks again
I am both thrilled and angry that you made this response video: thrilled because Bright's video needed a response, and angry because I did not want to be reminded that Bright's video exists at all. I don't think I was able to finish watching it, it infuriated me that much.
Thanks for another great video. I think I have seen all of Jimmys videos and it’s nice to see someone counter his pointsZ good job!
I really needed you to sequentially label the images "sun" "star" "moon" and "TURTLE"
I am extremely grateful for your videos that tell the truth. Thank you
The funniest part of this are the people in the comment section telling a history professor to “do your own research…”
I think some of y’all knee-jerk that phrase a little too often.
thank you for making these videos. its nice to have a differing point of view on the same topics or a breakdown of the other videos using the same evidence. while well never know for sure, differing views of fhe same topics keeps it a healthy discussion.
Easily your best video.
Jimmy's videos are downright dangerous. His misrepresentation of facts is causing large numbers of the uneducated to lose faith in the scientific method. If we keep allowing videos like his to go unchecked and unchallenged then we are headed towards a very bleak future. That's why I love the your video here.
The answer is not to silence or "cancel," the Jimmy's of the world, it's to methodically (and slowly, again, for the "Jimmy's," of the world) explain why you can't just take a look at something and form a "common sense," argument that refutes decades and decades of careful scholarly study.
All of this started with the Sitchin nonsense in the 70's and 80's and unfortunately the internet is giving these morons a podium like they've never had before. The Sitchin's of the world were duly laughed at and dismissed as entertainment at the best and downright idiocy at worst 20, 30 years ago, but the idiocracy is functioning so that Jimmy's are getting more views than World of Antiquity, and this is a harbinger of doom.
We need more World of Antiquities out here to put the Jimmy's in their place where they belong: back on the bench with their mouths shut and their cheeks red from embarrassment. This is a 12 year old telling a nuclear physicist that cold fusion was achieved in prehistory and getting away with it.
It's dangerous and it's making this country stupider and stupider.
Some the academic arguments are regid. Sitchin opened up an avenue for all to rexamine what academics were curating and forcing all to believe.
18:30 Okay gotta give them credit, the meme with turban dude dual-wielding a knife in one hand and NUKULAR BAAAHMB in the other is funny! Imagine fencing like that, dagger or buckler with a giant guided ordnance. Bet HEMA guys didn't see that in Renaissance manuals?
Omg I took a course on on exoplanets at my university and the professor at the end of the course briefly promoted some of this Sumerian nonsense myths (he was a physicist not a historian). I wish I had known about this video so I could have sent it to him. I complained about it in my review and feedback of the course and put a bunch of links to articles debunking some of this stuff. So hopefully he won't promote this stuff in his future courses anymore.
Very sad indeed. Dunning-Krueger combined with esotericism is really dangerous when it involves influential people....
@32:38 *5 yr old me* "Ooo! & look at the pretty winged ponyyy.. with the wings & eyes & the tail & the-.... that's rly a rly pretty pony... oh wow! look at the cute little green small turtle!" Lmao he rly pointed that out & thought "ha! see! there it is again! Man, I'm just way too good at this..😎🙆♂️" 🤭🤦♂️
"Is it Pluto a planet? give me a break, what a stupid discussion that is, some scientist who wants to redefin this ... grow up" The irony...
The Asyrians copy the information from sumarians that is a fact stop it . Why not the asyrian and sumarian story of creation . You are crazy
Kkkkk gelous person like you think knows everithg. Who are you to deny what the sumarian. Do you know the language? I know the language. Sitchin is almost correct. Not 100%correct THOUGH what he said make sence