Ellen can get like 300% crit damage and 100% crit rate though. That Frostbite effect further increases crit damage to crazy amounts...I don't think Ellen is gonna fall off until Miyabi.....
@@Zarozian depending on what they do with Miyabi also, she might not fall off at all. Lord of people think Miyabi might end up being anomaly which would tie in with Yanagi really well and even also tie in with how Lighter seems to have ice res down in his kit
2:24 piper should be way higher as her assaults can dish insane damage and only reason janeis better is due to being able to crit her assault. My piper is on 420 AP and she does insane assault damage
Yeah, Piper can dish out insane damage. However, she has trouble applying anomaly while the enemy is highly mobile or extremely lethal. Similar to Corin, she ends up missing a good amount of EX Skill uptime due to not hitting more mobile opponents or eventually dying if you try to face tank the attack chains to try to apply anomaly. Jane can deal ideal amounts of damage and application with or without enemy inteference, in fact she does better the more aggressive the enemy has as she can regen some passion during a dodge counter. Either way, Piper being T1 makes sense. T0.5 if its a sheer DPS output challenge maybe.
Possibly a hot take, but I think corin should move up to T1 especially at m6, though I haven't seen too much performance with the other 4* to say if she's on par with them, I can definitely say she's on par with nekomata at m6. I'm honestly of the opinion that the support tiers are perfectly fine, was debating soukaku being one tier down but that's it. Nicole shouldn't go up a tier due to more uptime issues with her support compared to caesar, like it's fine with zhu yuan, but not so fine with others that like outside of stun dps as well. I'm surprised you didn't argue about her grouping or crit rate boost though, as those are definitely good arguments to push Nicole up a tier, but even still, I think Caesar being a trademark on so many teams make it difficult to place nicole on the same tier. Thought of Soukaku going down due to her support niche only being great on one team, being out paced on every other team by someone else, which is almost the same deal as seth, except his replacement is Lucy most times. I definitely agree with piper being up a tier though, that girl is only m2 on my account and I believe she should definitely be tier 0.5.
Sub DPS really needs its own category, comparing Jane and Burnice is pretty unfair, and they obviously didn't otherwise Burnice wouldn't be in T0 but newer players aren't going to know that anyone know the Prydwen guys? Lol
14:30 Putting Rina and Ben in the same tier 💀. Is is too much to ask for some Rina buffs? At LEAST make it so that you can actually get the full +30% PEN ratio buff!
People don’t know how to use Rina. You pretty much have to have a Pen Ratio disc 5 on your DPS to make use of her kit. That said, I don’t have her. lol Neko and Rina are the only standard s rank characters I don’t have.
as per usual pwyden is wrong in so many ways. A tier list of "Who I like" and not who is actually good and in what way. When we have speed clears of low tier characters matching close to those top tier characters you know this list is 100% bullshit.
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Ellen can get like 300% crit damage and 100% crit rate though. That Frostbite effect further increases crit damage to crazy amounts...I don't think Ellen is gonna fall off until Miyabi.....
@@Zarozian depending on what they do with Miyabi also, she might not fall off at all. Lord of people think Miyabi might end up being anomaly which would tie in with Yanagi really well and even also tie in with how Lighter seems to have ice res down in his kit
Even if miyabi is broken, ellen will still be broken too. That amount of crazy stats will always be good. T0.5 at the very worst
@CharizardIsTheGoat she's confirmed to be ice attacker now
Also nekomata is the most selfish dps in the game lol, there's no reason to put her on with Jane, since Jane is nekomata pro max
Bro came back from the ashes
2:24 piper should be way higher as her assaults can dish insane damage and only reason janeis better is due to being able to crit her assault. My piper is on 420 AP and she does insane assault damage
Yeah, Piper can dish out insane damage. However, she has trouble applying anomaly while the enemy is highly mobile or extremely lethal. Similar to Corin, she ends up missing a good amount of EX Skill uptime due to not hitting more mobile opponents or eventually dying if you try to face tank the attack chains to try to apply anomaly.
Jane can deal ideal amounts of damage and application with or without enemy inteference, in fact she does better the more aggressive the enemy has as she can regen some passion during a dodge counter. Either way, Piper being T1 makes sense. T0.5 if its a sheer DPS output challenge maybe.
Possibly a hot take, but I think corin should move up to T1 especially at m6, though I haven't seen too much performance with the other 4* to say if she's on par with them, I can definitely say she's on par with nekomata at m6.
I'm honestly of the opinion that the support tiers are perfectly fine, was debating soukaku being one tier down but that's it. Nicole shouldn't go up a tier due to more uptime issues with her support compared to caesar, like it's fine with zhu yuan, but not so fine with others that like outside of stun dps as well. I'm surprised you didn't argue about her grouping or crit rate boost though, as those are definitely good arguments to push Nicole up a tier, but even still, I think Caesar being a trademark on so many teams make it difficult to place nicole on the same tier.
Thought of Soukaku going down due to her support niche only being great on one team, being out paced on every other team by someone else, which is almost the same deal as seth, except his replacement is Lucy most times.
I definitely agree with piper being up a tier though, that girl is only m2 on my account and I believe she should definitely be tier 0.5.
I've seen my friend's corin do a ridiculous amount of damage with her skill
Bro is still alive... cool
The list is pretty much what we expected but I think S11 & Rina should be T0.5 & T1 respectively
Sub DPS really needs its own category, comparing Jane and Burnice is pretty unfair, and they obviously didn't otherwise Burnice wouldn't be in T0 but newer players aren't going to know that anyone know the Prydwen guys? Lol
All Limited 5 stars at Tier 0 Not suprising at all, The list will get more interesting when we get more attack types in game imo.
Rina needs her M1 to not hog too much field time and Pen seems a bit undertuned
14:30 Putting Rina and Ben in the same tier 💀. Is is too much to ask for some Rina buffs? At LEAST make it so that you can actually get the full +30% PEN ratio buff!
People don’t know how to use Rina. You pretty much have to have a Pen Ratio disc 5 on your DPS to make use of her kit. That said, I don’t have her. lol Neko and Rina are the only standard s rank characters I don’t have.
Are you moving too? Lol
as per usual pwyden is wrong in so many ways. A tier list of "Who I like" and not who is actually good and in what way. When we have speed clears of low tier characters matching close to those top tier characters you know this list is 100% bullshit.
Im gonna teach a word ok... com-fort
Its two syllables btw
burnice beats soldier in main dps, burnice shouldnt be supporting soldier. Soldier 11 should never be used if you have burnice
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