I absolutely love the darkness of the tenth doctor. There is something about it, the way he takes on his power and does not always do the absolutely best thing. Just incredible and one of the reasons 10 is my favourite.
This is why I loved the pandorica storyline - all of his enemies working together to defeat the doctor, because they knew just how far he could go to "save" people
Are we saying that you don’t want to see the Doctor behave this way? In my opinion the reason why the 10th doctor is the best is because of his depth and darkness. Same with the 9th doctor, they have flaws which make them interesting. I don’t think anyone wants to see a polished, boring and unflawed superman type of protagonist.
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@@jamesmayle3787 disrespectfully, please fuck off with your Christian preaching in a comment section about Doctor Who. literally no one could give a damn if they wanted 😌
@@jamesmayle3787 i read the bible and know how you guys preach for your abusive god who scared people that didnt know what hate was into fearing him even tho they never saw him mad or absuive but instantly knew he is. thanks m8. good read. and hail satan to you.
I don’t think he mistreated her, although he should’ve probably made it more clear that he wasn’t interested in that way. Also, while I don’t blame her for taking such a strong liking to him so fast, expecting the doctor to feel the same way (and basically assuming they were dating) was definitely her own fault. If she hadn’t assumed so much then she wouldn’t have gotten nearly as hurt
@@CynthiaTestarossa not at fault, you're right, but I always felt like he was rubbing Rose in her face, in some way making Martha feel a bit of a "lesser" companion (think about the Shakespeare episode). Or maybe it's the fact that I never liked Rose and I'm biased 😅
He was extremely dismissive of Martha. People forget that most of these female companions are freshly adult or young adults and he's a thousands old timelord. You can say he wasn't leading her on but it was clear that there was some type of validation he sought from her crush on him. Additionally, just brushing off her concerns about racism, and then the entire human nature episode. Yes, John's racist love interest totally deserved the respect she got in the show 😑 I think people just don't wanna acknowledge that her character was mishandled and the doctor's interactions with her border on out of character.
I got the impression that the tenth Doctor was somewhat scared of Captain Jack in the beginning, because he was a time anomaly. However he late when the eleventh Doctor, he was more at peace with that fact. The fact the tenth Doctor would have died fighting the Rachnoss, if it wasn't for Donna, is covered in Turn Left. The tenth Doctor may have done dark things, but the seventh Doctor sometimes revealed the Timelord's dark side in what he says. So it was always there, in fact we also hear it in the early first Doctor and was clearly in the Renegade Doctor, in the Doctor's history therefore.
I paused at 4:29 to say this. Really, Ten was always going to be dark. The Christmas Invasion (and Harriet Jones in it simultaneously) are to me justifiable. A human in power went too far and an alien invader went too far. Even still, he only killed their leader when he went to stab him in the back and he only nudged Harriet's fall from power. Also he may have wanted to imprint to Rose "Hey I'm still me" which IS a theme for the Doctor in general. Trying to convince a companion he hasn't changed even if he has regenerated. Other than that, the Doctor HAS been hanging with humans for centuries. He would go native. Anyone would objectively. Meaning, he would develop feelings. As far as Martha is concerned, I like Martha. I do. But SHE WAS THE REBOUND. We ALL know how Ten felt about Rose. Even if a portion of the fandom denies it, he WAS in love with her. He obviously was torn up about Doomsday so he pushed and pushed companions away. He didn't need another version of Rose which lets face it Martha WAS in season 3 (meaning a little girl that has an immense crush on a guy and ends up falling in love with him even if he's unattainable) but he needed an actual best friend to call him out on his bullshit which was Donna. Even if his behavior towards Martha was bad, it was understandable. The guy was grieving. Blaming himself for everything. He wanted to protect himself from getting hurt again. He would always compare Martha to Rose because it was way too fresh and just not the right time for him to start over. Emotionally that is. That being said, everything else I can understand and explain (yes even the "humans as weapons" argument because lets face it, it IS essentially the companions' choice to go beyond and to the extreme. Those were life or death situations. For the entire cosmos, not just some humans. What would ANY of us have done? Noped out maybe. But don't deny that depending on the situation we would have done the same). But not the Time Lord Victorious. That was simply bone chilling to watch at least to me. The all time Dark moment where no trace of the Doctor was visible for the last 5ish minutes of the episode.
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A huge factor in these life or death situations (and which Davros was completely right about) is though, that they were the Doctor's companions at some point. See, if they never met the Doctor, they wouldn't even dream of being heroes. Rose was quite fine in her old job, before Nine blew it up. Mickey was her boyfriend, an ordinary guy, before she jumped in that blue police box for the first time. And before that whole alternate universe shenanigans. But because they traveled with him and he has shown them how to fight, they became braver, more confident and willing to die to save the planet, universe or whatever. So in the end it is exactly as Davros puts it: "you take ordinary people and make them into weapons". Yes, they do have free will and they do stuff, that THEY WANT to do, but still the Doctor has his share of influence over them.
Tbf they were brutal creatures who didn’t mind killing everyone who got in their way of getting to the doctor. They even killed people who weren’t in their way, and instead happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time. So I feel like it’s pretty deserved
It was really messed up but they wanted his power. Sure they could have negogiate with him if they hadn´t been so power hungry for eternal life. Also, he could give them other options like telling them that it´s worth it to live an eternal life. but meh I can´t speak for the Doctor. He had an messed up life after all.
Personally despite being dark. The family deserved their punishment. However what was worse was escaping to that point in time where he broke a woman's heart who so loved his human version and also being the cause of so much death due to the family finding him
I absolutely adore all of the darker moments. There’s just something about a character who does his best to keep up a cheerful facade, often so that others won’t worry, dropping said facade and letting all that built up anger, hurt and bitterness shine through.
Technically it was the Tardis that tried to shake Captain Jack off and went all the way to the end of the Universe to try to get away from him. So it wasn't entirely the Doctor's doing.
10th Doctor "darkest" ? for new Who fans maybe. But McCoy's second and third seasons see the Doctor pull off some seriously shady sh*t with his manipulating many people for the greater good resulting in their deaths. Tennant came close at times but he still doesn't hold a candle to McCoy when it comes to dark where us long term fans are concerned
Being a 7 fan, I was thinking roughly the same thing. I’m inclined to agree with those that believe 7 likely started the Time War by tricking Davros into trying to use the Hand of Omega that subsequently sent Skaro’s sun nova (due to 7’s preprogramming) taking Skaro (presumably) and that entire system with it. If that ain’t dark… you probably knew all that. Now that I think about it, did 7 say he himself had programmed it or possibly an earlier incarnation. Seven was usually playing the long game regardless.
He punishes the meta-crisis Doctor for Dalek genocide, failing to mention that he has caused the extinction of a few races himself beforehand including the Daleks a couple of times, other races haven't even been lucky enough to return!
The thing about Donna was that he had to do it to give her any possible chance of survival. And in The End of Time, he was shown to have given her a means of not just protecting herself, but to prevent remembering from burning her up, as when she's found by her family, they're panicked over how cold she is. In a sense, he saved Donna twice with this decision. The memories died, but the person survived. As for the Doctor inspiring people to fight back, this thought is actually revisited. In Twice Upon a Time, the 1st Doctor says he wanted to understand why good beats evil, even though evil should be more powerful. Bill puts it down to it being because of "a bloke", a single person inspiring people(thinly veiled to be The Doctor himself). While the 10th Doctor was noted for this, every Doctor has inspired people to say "No more." throughout time and space, no matter the face.
I can understand why the Doctor immediately abandons Jack, he saves Rose and swallows up the time energy then spends quite a bit of time in a regeneration coma.
Exactly this, right here. I've read so much fic lately where The Doctor is given so, so much grief over leaving Jack on the Gamestation, but no one (not even the Doctor in his own defense) points out that he had NO TIME and was dying as a result of absorbing the energy and redirecting it the way he did.
@@Favortingzthe doctor left Jack because he was immortal. He says that when Jack was priming the rocket in utopia. “But you Jack, you’re just wrong. You’re a fixed point. It’s uncomfortable just looking at you” (not the exact quote but a paraphrase)
Meta-crisis Doctor left with Rose and they had normal relationship and when wiped out his memory managed to fall in love with that nurse in the past, which means he could technically mate with any of them under special conditions. I don't know why Martha thought that she can be any different from Sarah-Jane or the others. She's a human. He can't give her what she wants. Even River Song who's partially time lord couldn't maintain normal relationship with him and died at their first meeting. He already explained it with Sarah-Jane, as it's too hard to watch loved ones die. That's why he's leaving them behind eventually.
The Sycorax leader was killed because The Doctor asked him to leave & the Sycorax leader got up & tried to kill the Doctor. So you think the spider lady should have been left to kill people so she could feed them to her children? The family of blood got what was coming to them after what they did. They murdered innocent people & took their bodies.
There literally couldn't have been a different number 1 could there? Like even Dalek genocide can at least be justified as saving people, but this wasn't even about saving anyone, it was purely the Doctor being in control of everything
bruh? #1 should've been genocide, but due to it lacking much of a punch in the story, I would put the family of bloods fate above all the ones on this list. He chose to sacrifice the lives of innocents around him, damn Martha to the life of a servant, and even gave a being a taste of life, just for a few days, before snuffing every part of him out of existance. Not even his memory lasted. No regenaration, no metacrisis, he gave life, and he took it away. All because he had a curiusity for humanity.
8:55 It is not remembering the doctor that saves her. When he meddled in her mind he left traps to protect her from remembering. She would get knocked out and re-memory wiped if she came close to remembering.
So, we're going on 14 re-generations (not counting the War Doctor) and we're concerned that the Doctor gets moody once in awhile? The occasional hissy fit and bit of stoicism and cruelty just adds depth and personality to a (somewhere around) 1,000-year old Time Lord. You might not condone it, but accept it as canon that every once in a while the Doctor gets miffed. Cheers....
The Dreamlord would agree with you about the Doctor getting a bit miffed on occasion. Although the Fatality index from Extremis might debate the definition of getting a bit miffed.
because authorities will depose a prime minister because of meaningless words of a man I guess! He didn't conspired against her, he didn't make sure that she'll be deposed, he basically wanted nothing to do with her and just left after giving most meaningless words ever to an assistance, something which basically any generic human being could say and no one would give a damn about. Harriet only taking it too seriously and then going downhill and also the Master's hypnotize situation such a logic of you people that say he brought her down personally is rather funny and evidence of ignorance
idk why 10 killing in his first episode is surprising considering 9 and 12 also killed in their first episodes. 10 killing the racnoss children is addressed again in partners in crime and turn left.
And honestly the 4th doctor(the god tom baker) he was truely a dark doctor by far..its his mind and his words that make him dark ..colin baker was dark but tom was darker..or peter capaldi ..he was dark too ..loved the 12th doctor.
@@drfaucigamin He destroyed Skaro with a supernova and manipulated his companions life to defeat the Fenric. His actions are fat darker than Tom "Do You Want a Jelly Baby" Baker. The 7th Doctor committed genocide (or at least attempted to) while the 4th Doctor refused to take the same act at the birth of the Daleks. McCoy wrapped his performance and mystery, giving the darkest performance of the Doctor to date. When cartmel took over as script editor and devised his mastetplan, the shows tone and Sylvertet's Doctor entirely
I wonder what`s your problem with some of these scenes. The Sycorax Leader attempting to attack him from behind is not a bad thing? Or the Daleks having attempted to destroy all of reality before? Or that he wiped Donna`s mind because the Time Lord influence was starting to physically harm her (but at least this was mentioned in the vid) ? Listing them this way besides things like the "Time Lord Victorious" god complex stuff (or the way he treats Martha and Jack, respectively) makes it look like he did all this just for fun. Though it obviously wasn´t the case.
To tell the truth, he never turned any one into a weapon, he turned them into leaders, people who would step forward and meat the task head on every time knowing the risk could kill them, like a fireman running into a fire to save people.
I have to disagree with your choice of number 7 being one of the worst things. He gave the leader of the Sycorax a chance to leave peacefully and instead of taking that chance the leader attempted to quite literally stab him in the back. So he got what he deserved. And again with number 6, if I remember rightly he gave the Racnos the chance to leave peacefully and the queen insisted on having her kids eat the human race. What else was he to do?
YES. I'm so glad that Martha made the list. The Doctor just doesn't friggin THINK sometimes. I used to say that it was Martha's fault for pining after him after he said he was mourning Rose's loss, but he also sent way too many mixed signals. 🤦🏽♀
13 is guilty of most of these same things, but the worst part is that the show isn’t written in a way that addresses her faults as wrong or questionable. So audiences don’t realize how awful of a person she is unless they try to look at her actions separated from the tone of the show.
It's like you don't even watch the show. The TARDIS fled from Jack because he was "wrong." It went to the end of the Universe to try and shake him off. The Doctor did nothing but get confused.
The Christmas special where there’s that duel CANT be blamed on the doctor…. He won the duel….AND let the king live…. yet HE tried to basically stab him in the back… how is this the doctor’s fault exactly
Totally disagree with the Sycorax one. The guy is running at him with a sword after breaking an oath to yield. He killed him in self defence. Even if he seemed ruthless and coolheaded in doing so
Like the Daleks didn't deserve to be destroyed by the meta crisis Doctor. They took poor Laszlo & turned him into a pig. I hope Tallulah married him. They killed one of their own that they mutated & look at what they did to Oswin Oswald. The Doctor may not have known Donna wouldn't have died.
@@ElizaGWR Yeah the 3rd did use some guns, so did the 6th. But i don't really see him as a dark incarnation, he's more like a james bond doctor full of energy. He does not refuse to use violence when needed though
Gotta say, number 7, the Doctor do be glowing with Ash Williams type vibes. Besides the obvious severed right hand, he kinda had the same demeanor as Ash does in Army of Darkness, and his appearance has a similar feel to Ash, the crazy eyes, dishevelled, etc. Wouldn't be surprised if there was a reference there in some fashion
Well we would have been super mad if he noticed her cause then that would feel like she was replacing rose and made us super mad but with this it just seems like ten is a jerk there was no right answer for this so lay off the most handsome and best doctor .
Whilst I feel that these are darker moments of the Tenth Doctor's time many can be explained further as to why he did them i.e Shunning Martha out of fear that she might suffer a similar or worse fate to Rose. I do feel the Timelord Victorious arc did Vilify the Tenth Doctor a bit which I feel didn't necessarily work well for this particular incarnation despite the well-established range of David Tennant s a very humanized version of The Doctor and can show these elements of that humanity in the way he can react.
Can please someone tell me where i can watch/read/listen to the story from 10:17 ? I need to know it and nobody answered the question in die comments until now :(
No. You're just wrong. Rewatch series 1, dalek. You'll see just how wrong you are. 9 will always outclass all doctors, exept maybe john hurt, as the most broken, and darkest version of him in all of new who
For the Racknoss he gave her a chance. He said he could give them a planet of their own if they left earth. The queen didn’t back down and that is why he killed them, if he did nothing the earth would have been consumed.
While I kinda agree with most of these Not sure I'd call killing the alien that was trying to end your entire existence one of the worst things he's ever done or the fact he temporarily saved his mates life also definitely wouldn't call it a darlek genocide as they all ways come back however I get your point lol but yeah whatever 😅😅😅
Oh, I’ll attempt to put a COMEDIC spin on one. In the infamous “Blink”, the Weeping Angels are innocent. We learn from other adventures that when Weeping Angels send people back in time, they feed off the time energy you had remaining. So, if you’re 30 and they “shlorp” you, and you naturally die at the age of 80, they in-theory fed off the 50 years of time. Even the sole Weeping Angels who “shlorpped” Amy effectively did so out of kindness, choosing to send her back instead of snapping Amy’s neck. So, back to Blink. While it was implied at the episode’s end that “any” statue could be a Weeping Angel, the only actual Angels seen are trapped by The Doctor. It’s been a while, but if I remember correctly, they only wanted the Tardis to feed off its time energy, and willingly sent The Doctor and Martha back in time, rather than kill them. And yet… rather than help relocate the Weeping Angels, or find them an alternative source of time energy, he ensnares them in their own stares. And he risks the lives of innocent Humans by essentially using them as bait! ;) see, how cruel is that? All the Angels wanted to do was eat and he effectively gave them permanent paralysis rather than helping them.
at 8:15 - i've always thought that the dalek saucer flying away is the one we see in Victory Of The Daleks. thoughts? (Unless it's from another time period)
I don't really understand how you can on the one hand say that the Doctor fails to take sufficient action against certain enemies meaning that others are forced to step in and lay down their lives, whilst also criticising his actions against the Sycorax leader who would undoubtedly have killed him and continued the invasion as well as the Racnoss children who, by their mothers own admission, would come out of the ground hungry causing them to destroy the earth, with containment seemingly impossible destruction seems the only viable option.
A lot of this stuff can be explained by the situations themselves. I'm really not sure if these are really 'bad' things that he's done since he was doing what was objectively right most of the time.
thats what made Tennant as the 11th and 12th (yes learn how to count, there were 10 before him and he regenrated into himself once) doctor the best for me. the darkness, the sometimes vigilante. And mostly the Victorious. Sometimes doing the right thing is doing the hard thing and not the easy thing.
#9 it was explained in the episode his very existence was an anomaly of time, the Tardis couldn't handle him. That's why they ended up at the end the universe, she was trying to shake him off.
I absolutely love the darkness of the tenth doctor. There is something about it, the way he takes on his power and does not always do the absolutely best thing. Just incredible and one of the reasons 10 is my favourite.
The Doctor always have to face his demons, he also makes a good music video.
This is why I loved the pandorica storyline - all of his enemies working together to defeat the doctor, because they knew just how far he could go to "save" people
Actually,
The Pandorica group trapped him because they knew his TARDIS would blow up and end reality.
@@troytab6089 yeah that storyline had so much potential but it ended up being kinda bad
Are we saying that you don’t want to see the Doctor behave this way? In my opinion the reason why the 10th doctor is the best is because of his depth and darkness. Same with the 9th doctor, they have flaws which make them interesting. I don’t think anyone wants to see a polished, boring and unflawed superman type of protagonist.
No the flaws are fine it's just a breakdown of the darkness
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@@jamesmayle3787 ????
@@jamesmayle3787 disrespectfully, please fuck off with your Christian preaching in a comment section about Doctor Who. literally no one could give a damn if they wanted 😌
@@jamesmayle3787 i read the bible and know how you guys preach for your abusive god who scared people that didnt know what hate was into fearing him even tho they never saw him mad or absuive but instantly knew he is. thanks m8. good read. and hail satan to you.
I can explain away/condone most of 10's actions but any mistreatment of Dr. Martha Jones is simply inexcusable!
He didnt mistreat her, man made it clear from the start he wasnt interested. She kept pining after him knowing this
@@ashdargon8545 THANK YOU. Doctor was not at fault in the slightest
I don’t think he mistreated her, although he should’ve probably made it more clear that he wasn’t interested in that way. Also, while I don’t blame her for taking such a strong liking to him so fast, expecting the doctor to feel the same way (and basically assuming they were dating) was definitely her own fault. If she hadn’t assumed so much then she wouldn’t have gotten nearly as hurt
@@CynthiaTestarossa not at fault, you're right, but I always felt like he was rubbing Rose in her face, in some way making Martha feel a bit of a "lesser" companion (think about the Shakespeare episode). Or maybe it's the fact that I never liked Rose and I'm biased 😅
He was extremely dismissive of Martha. People forget that most of these female companions are freshly adult or young adults and he's a thousands old timelord. You can say he wasn't leading her on but it was clear that there was some type of validation he sought from her crush on him. Additionally, just brushing off her concerns about racism, and then the entire human nature episode. Yes, John's racist love interest totally deserved the respect she got in the show 😑 I think people just don't wanna acknowledge that her character was mishandled and the doctor's interactions with her border on out of character.
I got the impression that the tenth Doctor was somewhat scared of Captain Jack in the beginning, because he was a time anomaly. However he late when the eleventh Doctor, he was more at peace with that fact.
The fact the tenth Doctor would have died fighting the Rachnoss, if it wasn't for Donna, is covered in Turn Left.
The tenth Doctor may have done dark things, but the seventh Doctor sometimes revealed the Timelord's dark side in what he says. So it was always there, in fact we also hear it in the early first Doctor and was clearly in the Renegade Doctor, in the Doctor's history therefore.
I paused at 4:29 to say this. Really, Ten was always going to be dark. The Christmas Invasion (and Harriet Jones in it simultaneously) are to me justifiable. A human in power went too far and an alien invader went too far. Even still, he only killed their leader when he went to stab him in the back and he only nudged Harriet's fall from power. Also he may have wanted to imprint to Rose "Hey I'm still me" which IS a theme for the Doctor in general. Trying to convince a companion he hasn't changed even if he has regenerated. Other than that, the Doctor HAS been hanging with humans for centuries. He would go native. Anyone would objectively. Meaning, he would develop feelings.
As far as Martha is concerned, I like Martha. I do. But SHE WAS THE REBOUND. We ALL know how Ten felt about Rose. Even if a portion of the fandom denies it, he WAS in love with her. He obviously was torn up about Doomsday so he pushed and pushed companions away. He didn't need another version of Rose which lets face it Martha WAS in season 3 (meaning a little girl that has an immense crush on a guy and ends up falling in love with him even if he's unattainable) but he needed an actual best friend to call him out on his bullshit which was Donna. Even if his behavior towards Martha was bad, it was understandable. The guy was grieving. Blaming himself for everything. He wanted to protect himself from getting hurt again. He would always compare Martha to Rose because it was way too fresh and just not the right time for him to start over. Emotionally that is.
That being said, everything else I can understand and explain (yes even the "humans as weapons" argument because lets face it, it IS essentially the companions' choice to go beyond and to the extreme. Those were life or death situations. For the entire cosmos, not just some humans. What would ANY of us have done? Noped out maybe. But don't deny that depending on the situation we would have done the same). But not the Time Lord Victorious. That was simply bone chilling to watch at least to me. The all time Dark moment where no trace of the Doctor was visible for the last 5ish minutes of the episode.
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i may think doctor falled in love with Donna as well even if Donna didn't noticed him.
A huge factor in these life or death situations (and which Davros was completely right about) is though, that they were the Doctor's companions at some point. See, if they never met the Doctor, they wouldn't even dream of being heroes. Rose was quite fine in her old job, before Nine blew it up. Mickey was her boyfriend, an ordinary guy, before she jumped in that blue police box for the first time. And before that whole alternate universe shenanigans. But because they traveled with him and he has shown them how to fight, they became braver, more confident and willing to die to save the planet, universe or whatever. So in the end it is exactly as Davros puts it: "you take ordinary people and make them into weapons". Yes, they do have free will and they do stuff, that THEY WANT to do, but still the Doctor has his share of influence over them.
4:00 Well, to be fair, the Sycarax leader WAS trying to attack him from behind.
I knew the Family of Blood punishment would come. It's so brutal of a punishment.
But they got wat they wanted mate..they wanted to live forever...so the doctor made sure we did
@@drfaucigamin True.
Tbf they were brutal creatures who didn’t mind killing everyone who got in their way of getting to the doctor. They even killed people who weren’t in their way, and instead happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time. So I feel like it’s pretty deserved
It was really messed up but they wanted his power. Sure they could have negogiate with him if they hadn´t been so power hungry for eternal life. Also, he could give them other options like telling them that it´s worth it to live an eternal life. but meh I can´t speak for the Doctor. He had an messed up life after all.
Personally despite being dark. The family deserved their punishment. However what was worse was escaping to that point in time where he broke a woman's heart who so loved his human version and also being the cause of so much death due to the family finding him
I agree, they deserved it. I’ve always loved how Ten just RAGED at them and gave them these crazy punishments
I absolutely adore all of the darker moments. There’s just something about a character who does his best to keep up a cheerful facade, often so that others won’t worry, dropping said facade and letting all that built up anger, hurt and bitterness shine through.
To be fair, Donna mentions the Racnoss, in a way, when they meet up again in "Partners in Crime".
Technically it was the Tardis that tried to shake Captain Jack off and went all the way to the end of the Universe to try to get away from him. So it wasn't entirely the Doctor's doing.
Yeah but it was the Doctor who tried to leave him in the first place, not cool
10th Doctor "darkest" ? for new Who fans maybe. But McCoy's second and third seasons see the Doctor pull off some seriously shady sh*t with his manipulating many people for the greater good resulting in their deaths. Tennant came close at times but he still doesn't hold a candle to McCoy when it comes to dark where us long term fans are concerned
Being a 7 fan, I was thinking roughly the same thing. I’m inclined to agree with those that believe 7 likely started the Time War by tricking Davros into trying to use the Hand of Omega that subsequently sent Skaro’s sun nova (due to 7’s preprogramming) taking Skaro (presumably) and that entire system with it. If that ain’t dark… you probably knew all that. Now that I think about it, did 7 say he himself had programmed it or possibly an earlier incarnation. Seven was usually playing the long game regardless.
"It's a fighting hand !" wile showing the slap of Will Smith make me laugh so hard.
He punishes the meta-crisis Doctor for Dalek genocide, failing to mention that he has caused the extinction of a few races himself beforehand including the Daleks a couple of times, other races haven't even been lucky enough to return!
Considering genocide is literally the only way stop daleks as they are incapable of anything but evil it's very hypercritical
The thing about Donna was that he had to do it to give her any possible chance of survival. And in The End of Time, he was shown to have given her a means of not just protecting herself, but to prevent remembering from burning her up, as when she's found by her family, they're panicked over how cold she is. In a sense, he saved Donna twice with this decision. The memories died, but the person survived.
As for the Doctor inspiring people to fight back, this thought is actually revisited. In Twice Upon a Time, the 1st Doctor says he wanted to understand why good beats evil, even though evil should be more powerful. Bill puts it down to it being because of "a bloke", a single person inspiring people(thinly veiled to be The Doctor himself). While the 10th Doctor was noted for this, every Doctor has inspired people to say "No more." throughout time and space, no matter the face.
I can understand why the Doctor immediately abandons Jack, he saves Rose and swallows up the time energy then spends quite a bit of time in a regeneration coma.
Exactly this, right here. I've read so much fic lately where The Doctor is given so, so much grief over leaving Jack on the Gamestation, but no one (not even the Doctor in his own defense) points out that he had NO TIME and was dying as a result of absorbing the energy and redirecting it the way he did.
He could have come back for him after he healed it's not he took that much time
@@Favortingzthe doctor left Jack because he was immortal. He says that when Jack was priming the rocket in utopia. “But you Jack, you’re just wrong. You’re a fixed point. It’s uncomfortable just looking at you” (not the exact quote but a paraphrase)
3:51 "KEEP MY FIGHTING HAND OUT OF YOUR FUCKING MOUTH!"
Meta-crisis Doctor left with Rose and they had normal relationship and when wiped out his memory managed to fall in love with that nurse in the past, which means he could technically mate with any of them under special conditions. I don't know why Martha thought that she can be any different from Sarah-Jane or the others. She's a human. He can't give her what she wants. Even River Song who's partially time lord couldn't maintain normal relationship with him and died at their first meeting. He already explained it with Sarah-Jane, as it's too hard to watch loved ones die. That's why he's leaving them behind eventually.
3:50 IT'S A FIGHTIN' HAND
The Sycorax leader was killed because The Doctor asked him to leave & the Sycorax leader got up & tried to kill the Doctor. So you think the spider lady should have been left to kill people so she could feed them to her children? The family of blood got what was coming to them after what they did. They murdered innocent people & took their bodies.
*Nobody Loves The Tenth Doctor More Than Me!*
Oh no! The return of evil Dan!
evil dan nooooooo!
* throws satsuma and sends Evil Dan plummeting to his death *
@@RaggedyDoctor11 * the hologram of evil Dan disappears and evil Dan continues to cause havoc forever! *
All hail #10!
There literally couldn't have been a different number 1 could there?
Like even Dalek genocide can at least be justified as saving people, but this wasn't even about saving anyone, it was purely the Doctor being in control of everything
bruh? #1 should've been genocide, but due to it lacking much of a punch in the story, I would put the family of bloods fate above all the ones on this list. He chose to sacrifice the lives of innocents around him, damn Martha to the life of a servant, and even gave a being a taste of life, just for a few days, before snuffing every part of him out of existance. Not even his memory lasted. No regenaration, no metacrisis, he gave life, and he took it away. All because he had a curiusity for humanity.
@@fandomweebsvsmemes9803 human nature was just all kinds of fucked up for martha
8:55 It is not remembering the doctor that saves her. When he meddled in her mind he left traps to protect her from remembering. She would get knocked out and re-memory wiped if she came close to remembering.
The worst thing the DR has ever done was to continually send off her companions to face unknown dangers...
This depiction of The Doctor reminded me of one driven to the edge by memory, pain, regret and and anger.
Most of these I'm ok with... Not him treating Martha bad, but I'm not crying that there aren't thousands of raknos babies scurrying around...
Agreed. I see all of these as necessary.
So, we're going on 14 re-generations (not counting the War Doctor) and we're concerned that the Doctor gets moody once in awhile? The occasional hissy fit and bit of stoicism and cruelty just adds depth and personality to a (somewhere around) 1,000-year old Time Lord. You might not condone it, but accept it as canon that every once in a while the Doctor gets miffed. Cheers....
The Dreamlord would agree with you about the Doctor getting a bit miffed on occasion. Although the Fatality index from Extremis might debate the definition of getting a bit miffed.
Curse of Fenric Sylvester McCoy. If you want dark Who that's the baseline and it's rarely been matched
Re: The Martha kiss. Didn't he apologise beforehand and explicitly tell her it meant nothing?
So what?she didn't even know what he was planning to do, he should've atleast said it
yep and during the episode she even realized that he actually passed on the DNA and at the end of episode he gave her the big "NO"
"Fightin' hand".
Segway to Will slapping Chris.
LMAO
10:25 what big finish story are they talking about here?
While abandoning Jack wasn’t exactly justified, there’s at least a pretty understandable reason for it :’)
You should have added Harriet Jones being deposed, and how that arrogant mistake led to the Master taking over the country
because authorities will depose a prime minister because of meaningless words of a man I guess!
He didn't conspired against her, he didn't make sure that she'll be deposed, he basically wanted nothing to do with her and just left after giving most meaningless words ever to an assistance, something which basically any generic human being could say and no one would give a damn about. Harriet only taking it too seriously and then going downhill and also the Master's hypnotize situation
such a logic of you people that say he brought her down personally is rather funny and evidence of ignorance
Also Donna would die if Donna remembered
The worst thing 10 did, was leave.
The worst thing he did was bother to watch a Shakespearean play. They are too confusing
YOU’RE CONFUSING
this one was so funny🤣🤣🤣
idk why 10 killing in his first episode is surprising considering 9 and 12 also killed in their first episodes. 10 killing the racnoss children is addressed again in partners in crime and turn left.
And honestly the 4th doctor(the god tom baker) he was truely a dark doctor by far..its his mind and his words that make him dark ..colin baker was dark but tom was darker..or peter capaldi ..he was dark too ..loved the 12th doctor.
Ever seen Sylvester McCoy?
@@captainawesome0711 yes but i stand by my statement ..8 was good ..but he was a little more riddler type of doctor
@@drfaucigamin He destroyed Skaro with a supernova and manipulated his companions life to defeat the Fenric. His actions are fat darker than Tom "Do You Want a Jelly Baby" Baker. The 7th Doctor committed genocide (or at least attempted to) while the 4th Doctor refused to take the same act at the birth of the Daleks. McCoy wrapped his performance and mystery, giving the darkest performance of the Doctor to date. When cartmel took over as script editor and devised his mastetplan, the shows tone and Sylvertet's Doctor entirely
I wonder what`s your problem with some of these scenes.
The Sycorax Leader attempting to attack him from behind is not a bad thing?
Or the Daleks having attempted to destroy all of reality before?
Or that he wiped Donna`s mind because the Time Lord influence was starting to physically harm her (but at least this was mentioned in the vid) ?
Listing them this way besides things like the "Time Lord Victorious" god complex stuff (or the way he treats Martha and Jack, respectively) makes it look like he did all this just for fun. Though it obviously wasn´t the case.
To tell the truth, he never turned any one into a weapon, he turned them into leaders, people who would step forward and meat the task head on every time knowing the risk could kill them, like a fireman running into a fire to save people.
I have to say. Killing thousands or perhaps even millions of giant human eating spider people is not really a problem to me. I say well done Dr
Tbf Love & Monsters and Fear Her are in and of themselves 2 of the worst things the Tenth Doctor has ever done.
I’ll give you that one
The way he pushed the family in family was cold
The tenth doctor steps out of line my ass!! He was popular because he could be charming and fun but he also was ready to follow thru on consequences.
Love and Monsters deserves more respect, change my mind
My friend, you are truly lost.
I loved love and monsters but agree with fear her one of the worst episodes ever
10:17 I need to know if this was a special or a comics that this takes place
10:25 where is this episode? never heard of it before, whats it called?
#10 was my first and favorite Dr.
Omg Ellie 3:51 it’s a fighting hand 😂
I have to disagree with your choice of number 7 being one of the worst things. He gave the leader of the Sycorax a chance to leave peacefully and instead of taking that chance the leader attempted to quite literally stab him in the back. So he got what he deserved. And again with number 6, if I remember rightly he gave the Racnos the chance to leave peacefully and the queen insisted on having her kids eat the human race. What else was he to do?
Imagine if that Dalek hit Rose instead of the Doctor!
The Doctor tried to leave Captain Jack behind because Captain Jack is known for exposing himself on set
We have to realize that this is the Doctor still dealing with the great time war
YES. I'm so glad that Martha made the list. The Doctor just doesn't friggin THINK sometimes. I used to say that it was Martha's fault for pining after him after he said he was mourning Rose's loss, but he also sent way too many mixed signals. 🤦🏽♀
13 is guilty of most of these same things, but the worst part is that the show isn’t written in a way that addresses her faults as wrong or questionable. So audiences don’t realize how awful of a person she is unless they try to look at her actions separated from the tone of the show.
They do.... Just not in the episode beceause they reserved other for later
It's like you don't even watch the show. The TARDIS fled from Jack because he was "wrong." It went to the end of the Universe to try and shake him off. The Doctor did nothing but get confused.
The Christmas special where there’s that duel CANT be blamed on the doctor…. He won the duel….AND let the king live…. yet HE tried to basically stab him in the back… how is this the doctor’s fault exactly
10 saved the series the season 13 still live on the fame of 10th incarnation
I'm going to meet him next week at comic con 😍
Totally disagree with the Sycorax one. The guy is running at him with a sword after breaking an oath to yield. He killed him in self defence. Even if he seemed ruthless and coolheaded in doing so
Best Doctor in the modern series hands down next to the 9th. None have been better.
Agree, brilliant Doctor!
Like the Daleks didn't deserve to be destroyed by the meta crisis Doctor. They took poor Laszlo & turned him into a pig. I hope Tallulah married him. They killed one of their own that they mutated & look at what they did to Oswin Oswald. The Doctor may not have known Donna wouldn't have died.
The family of blood had it coming.
If you think 10th has a dark nature, then i guess you never heard of the Doctor's 7th incarnation
Or the 3rd, you know the Doctor who used GUNS!
@@ElizaGWR Yeah the 3rd did use some guns, so did the 6th. But i don't really see him as a dark incarnation, he's more like a james bond doctor full of energy. He does not refuse to use violence when needed though
That’s what makes 10 special he is more human rashional
Sometimes doing the right thing isn't doing the right thing.
Gotta say, number 7, the Doctor do be glowing with Ash Williams type vibes. Besides the obvious severed right hand, he kinda had the same demeanor as Ash does in Army of Darkness, and his appearance has a similar feel to Ash, the crazy eyes, dishevelled, etc. Wouldn't be surprised if there was a reference there in some fashion
I love the Will Smith reference
Martha Jones could have left whenever she liked, she didn't have to stick around.
Well we would have been super mad if he noticed her cause then that would feel like she was replacing rose and made us super mad but with this it just seems like ten is a jerk there was no right answer for this so lay off the most handsome and best doctor .
A lot of these seem pretty justifiable to me considering the events of earlier parts in the show. But some of these, yeah, I understand.
Whilst I feel that these are darker moments of the Tenth Doctor's time many can be explained further as to why he did them i.e Shunning Martha out of fear that she might suffer a similar or worse fate to Rose. I do feel the Timelord Victorious arc did Vilify the Tenth Doctor a bit which I feel didn't necessarily work well for this particular incarnation despite the well-established range of David Tennant s a very humanized version of The Doctor and can show these elements of that humanity in the way he can react.
Dark 10 is Downright PSICHOTIC
Dark 11 is like a psichological thriller
and dark 9, Eccleston's doctor, Yeah when 9 goes dark it's terrifying
"worst".... Maybe. "Just".... 100%
Look, it’s not my fault that David Tennant was the best doctor. Facts are just facts. 🤷🏻♂️
Can please someone tell me where i can watch/read/listen to the story from 10:17 ? I need to know it and nobody answered the question in die comments until now :(
Yeah, these are pretty dark moments. Makes for great TV though.
I would definitely say 10 by far is the darkest doctor, even more than 7 esp with the TLV saga.
No. You're just wrong. Rewatch series 1, dalek. You'll see just how wrong you are. 9 will always outclass all doctors, exept maybe john hurt, as the most broken, and darkest version of him in all of new who
@@fandomweebsvsmemes9803 9 the darkest hahahahahaha good joke.
nonsense
For the Racknoss he gave her a chance. He said he could give them a planet of their own if they left earth. The queen didn’t back down and that is why he killed them, if he did nothing the earth would have been consumed.
الطريقة الوحيدة التي يموت بها الدوكتر هي ان يقع في الشمس
The doctor didn’t drag Jack though the time vortex the tardis did it
While I kinda agree with most of these Not sure I'd call killing the alien that was trying to end your entire existence one of the worst things he's ever done or the fact he temporarily saved his mates life also definitely wouldn't call it a darlek genocide as they all ways come back however I get your point lol
but yeah whatever 😅😅😅
All of these can be easily justified.
what episode is the last clip in? ive never seen it before
I think the most manipulative doctors are Doctor 10 and Doctor 7
Does anyone know the name of the episode where the doctor is against the katura ?
Oh, I’ll attempt to put a COMEDIC spin on one.
In the infamous “Blink”, the Weeping Angels are innocent. We learn from other adventures that when Weeping Angels send people back in time, they feed off the time energy you had remaining. So, if you’re 30 and they “shlorp” you, and you naturally die at the age of 80, they in-theory fed off the 50 years of time. Even the sole Weeping Angels who “shlorpped” Amy effectively did so out of kindness, choosing to send her back instead of snapping Amy’s neck.
So, back to Blink. While it was implied at the episode’s end that “any” statue could be a Weeping Angel, the only actual Angels seen are trapped by The Doctor. It’s been a while, but if I remember correctly, they only wanted the Tardis to feed off its time energy, and willingly sent The Doctor and Martha back in time, rather than kill them. And yet… rather than help relocate the Weeping Angels, or find them an alternative source of time energy, he ensnares them in their own stares. And he risks the lives of innocent Humans by essentially using them as bait!
;) see, how cruel is that? All the Angels wanted to do was eat and he effectively gave them permanent paralysis rather than helping them.
at 8:15 -
i've always thought that the dalek saucer flying away is the one we see in Victory Of The Daleks. thoughts? (Unless it's from another time period)
It was confirmed by RTD, to give writers an out in case they wanted to bring the daleks back or fulfil the contract with the Terry nation estate
He led the Vashda Nerada to kill someone in Forest of Death when he unintentionally led them to be aware that his friend was still alive
Isn't the whole journeys end story the one with Dr Donna that's why she had h mind wiped or she would destroy herself
2:10 …I don’t think he was unconscious there…I mean, immortality doesn’t mean waking up from being unconscious. In that case, we’re all immortal
I don't really understand how you can on the one hand say that the Doctor fails to take sufficient action against certain enemies meaning that others are forced to step in and lay down their lives, whilst also criticising his actions against the Sycorax leader who would undoubtedly have killed him and continued the invasion as well as the Racnoss children who, by their mothers own admission, would come out of the ground hungry causing them to destroy the earth, with containment seemingly impossible destruction seems the only viable option.
You made this entire video just so you could include the Oscars clip huh?
This video was in the works before the Oscars incident, it was just good timing xD
A lot of this stuff can be explained by the situations themselves. I'm really not sure if these are really 'bad' things that he's done since he was doing what was objectively right most of the time.
Well yeah, it might be the “right” thing to do to kill the Racnoss, but it’s still reasonable to consider it a “bad” act! It’s not one or the other.
@@danthemeegs8751 Yes, there is a difference between what is the right thing to do and whether or not that right thing is bad.
thats what made Tennant as the 11th and 12th (yes learn how to count, there were 10 before him and he regenrated into himself once) doctor the best for me. the darkness, the sometimes vigilante. And mostly the Victorious. Sometimes doing the right thing is doing the hard thing and not the easy thing.
#9 it was explained in the episode his very existence was an anomaly of time, the Tardis couldn't handle him. That's why they ended up at the end the universe, she was trying to shake him off.
Hopefully there's a chance that The Metacrisis Tenth Doctor will be in the 60th Anniversary since David Tennant is returning as The Tenth Doctor
the 10th doctor might as well be the valeyard
I still find it to be funny as to when Jack comes back in Utopia