The CO$T of driving a modified vehicle in Australia
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- Опубликовано: 10 фев 2025
- Well to be honest, i never thought this would happen, but the day came back in September. Here is the full story and i hope this serves as a reminder. Lay low, detune your cars if you must, keep it clean!
Highway patrol needs a complete reform. They're not real cops, they're more like nightclub bouncers who's job is almost entirely devoted to targeting and issue fines to anyone for anything they can get away with, as long as they're in a vehicle. That said, you should really have had an engineering/compliance certificate.
Yeah good luck with that, boomers and gen x will never allow it
Their general duties colleges call them "cockroaches" because they hide & scurry about. General duties do the real work & a majority of actual policing because they are the 1s who turn up at crimes. I do admit that hwy patrol do see a lot of horrible stuff that many of us will never see.
@@nibba5692 Gen X. Like the ones that were first to modify Civics. Lol Gen Z
They changed from a police service to a force in breach of the Aus Constitution. This says it all.
Cop once gave my mate a 20km over fine just outside of Goulburn, he was going 10 under, i was in the car with him and watching his speed
What annoys me is that a police officer can decide if a vehicle is not safe or compliant. They aren't a licensed mechanic nor engineer. If they think your car is questionable they should refer you to a qualified person for inspection. Best of luck with getting it registered again mate and nice car! Keep up the videos.
@@dustyfarmer I think there should be a grace period until taking it for inspection.
@@dustyfarmer Ultimately depends on the officer you get. I live regional Vic and the cops don't really care about modified cars here. You raise a good point never thought about contacting a local member. Thanks
Problem is neither is the builder,,shoddy shed built ,I've driven way more modified cars than this ,and still do,never had a problem n 30plus years
Cops are basically idiots. They could not even change a wheel to be honest. I remember getting pulled over in QLD by cops and having to explain maths to them cause i had 33inch tyres and a 2 inch lift and they said I was at limit of 4 inches. Total tools
Except he admitted at the beginning of the video it was illegally modified…
Perhaps the video should be titled “The cost of driving an illegally modified car in Australia”.
I think a lot of the way cops operate and behave is bullshit and/or revenue raising but in this case he has only himself to blame.
This Civic is 100% more well maintained than the roads in Sydney!! It’s unfortunate you ran into this power tripper
Or there are beated up Camrys with bad dings and dents with bumpers duct taped on, broken lights etc highway don’t bat an eye smh
That civic would be the typical loud annoying obnoxious thing that the local cop would love to get off the road.
@@jamesaustralian9829 Having seen this car in person, I can tell you it is not loud at all. The turbo actually made it quieter :D
Im sure you modify it so you can drive slow and steady on the way to church hey?
What a joke this country has become.
Who would have any respect for these government or their police and courts.
Living in shitsville is very embarrassing these days! Lucky left years ago .
it's stuffed mate
From Brtiain and now Australia...
Go live in China?
How shithouse are some of these comments, young fella builds a car sounds like it’s real passion for him, hots it up a bit but hardly a ball tearer with only 136 kw but he clearly loves it and you can assume he’s got a job and not wasting his money on piss and drugs, he makes an open and pretty honest RUclips vid which we all watched and either enjoyed or at least had some interest in then a heap of dorks start commentary akin to “suck eggs you deserve everything you get” bloody pack of miseries I reckon
Yep, it's so sad that we can't just put any old shitbox Datsun Sunny with a supercharged LS on the road. If youre into modding, you need to do it properly while you comply with the rules, regulations and laws.
Modding is great, just make sure that you either have a comprehensive knowledge of the rules, hire someone who does, or just build a track car (that complies with the track regs i.e. noise, safety) .
We live in a society where we have to follow the norms acceptable to the majority, and tossers going beyond those norms just make the rules tighter and tighter for those of us who love the hobby.
All of these things are great, but there are rules for modifying vehicles and if you fall foul of them (or a cop suspects you are falling foul of them and you don't have the paperwork to show that's not the case), those things aren't (and shouldn't be) mitigating factors. They're irrelevant to the issue.
Bro if you’re into cars this part and parcel to the experience 😂
@Smokeyr67 he made a point that it's 136kW then you draw a parallel with LS powered Sunny 🤦🏼♂️
A guy at roll racing got booked whilst his car was on a trailer. Its tall poppy syndrome, a curse on our nation mate. Stay strong JC
Take the plates off when towing the car that way the pigs won’t screw you
My god😅 never thought that's possible. Treating car enthusiasts like a criminal
@@alitoroganan2442 come to any Australian race event cops will swarm that but won’t go after real criminals
How is that even allowed? 🤣 That's fucken ridiculous, doing the right thing by trailering it and still get shafted!
@@sugarbombs6884boomers and their spawn is the reason why
Oh man, I feel for you, I had an R34GTR, super clean and because NSW Transport didn't like it, they just said it was stolen when i tried to get it registered there from buying it in Victoria, no reason, they just said stolen.
They wanted to grind back my firewall and check how the Vin tag was installed and I said no way, who is going to pay to have it all put back to standard? They said I had to.
Botany bay Transport department sent me to forensic police, I passed all their tests and they could not understand why my car was even being checked, the cop was really good and a car guy himself.
It passed their x-ray machine etc, sent back to Botany bay and they then said, we don't care you passed forensics testing, we want to grind back your VIN firewall or you are not registering that car here in NSW.
I left NSW and moved to QLD, they are all a bunch of thugs and bullies mate. I was going to move anyway, so that sort of worked out. Thankfully the guy I bought it in Victoria was a friend by this stage and he allowed me to keep it regoed in his name for over a year, top fellow.
I hope you get through what you have to, but it won't be easy sadly, you will be hit more red tape and irrational BS harassment.
Sadly a few years later in QLD, I got more harassment, my car was mint, stupidly clean as and was actually the fastest 34GTR in Australia at the time on a circuit, but you could never tell.
I had blue plates for everything and I got stopped one night, then told my seats were illegal (Stock 34 GTR seats) and my car was too low on an uneven footpath. They measured it at 97mm.....lol.
Told to go for a roadworthy and show them within 2 weeks, it passed flying colours, but the cop then said, we don;t care, now we want you to take it a bigf inspection station now (moved goalposts again). I had enough, I deregistered, waited 3 months and got it registered again to shake them off my tail, it did work.
I sold it in the end and went full race track racing with an LMP3 Sports Prototype and never looked back, the roads suck, the Australian harassment is bonkers mate and if you are right, they just push and push until they get something, even if they are wrong, corrupt and are just straight up thugs !!!!!!
Good luck mate, i truly wish you all the best.
I remember a big downshift meet we had at rocklea brisbane when the toyota 86 new model came out. 2 owners were handed defect notices for an illegal engine swap due to subaru engine in a toyota!
@@ErzbergAdventuresholy crap, why am I not surprised 🙄
Unbelievable how bad the police are in this country.
I got done in my 86 recently and cop was trying to bag me out for having the 4 pot brembos off a BRZ TS STI. Went on a rant about it being a subaru part on a Toyota.
@@synapsisflame9721oh dear, that is terrible. Just shows you how much they don't know anything.
This is bullshit, you report a crime that is happening they turn up 4 hours later, but when defecting car they quick at doing it.
Because collecting money's is more important!!!
Police have no idea who they actually work for and most have a sickness called "order following"!!!
Different divisions.... Why would highway patrol attend a crime lol... It's like calling a plumber for an electrical fault lol
@@robertbruinsmaXXXX you've completely missed the point. Well done👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Defects are way more lucrative than crime
@@richiesworld1 No, it's you that doesn't understand, and is missing the point. Well done.
The type that go after modified cars have a crazy ego trip. These cars are kept 10x better then some karen's on bald tires and missing headlight car.
I literally saw someone driving with a smashed fender 2 days ago
Still better than a bald Karen 😅
You know there's something wrong when you can get a letter in the mail from the EPA regarding your exhaust quicker than the cops will show up to a home invasion
Home invasion is basically a non crime at this point. trust me I'm a locksmith in Melbourne. Police is only concerned about someone going 2 over on a downhill.
@@bazitube390 Yeah I believe you. Maybe it was you that changed my locks lol
I had a situation where I was attacked trying to buy a car, the car was a bait post and at the location I was chased by an old man with a blunt weapon.
I reported it to the police station, in person and was escorted out. The officer told me "it's a lot of paperwork to do this late at night, and he will setup other people like you before we even meet him"
Not long after that, I drove to a racetrack for a car meet. Sitting outside the track was a police officer handing out defects to people, including myself
Safety is clearly not the priority, but the easiest way to make money is
income > obligation
So you were found in someones garage, trying to buy a car that wasn't for sale & the old bloke who owned the joint chased you with a baseball bat.
@@dustyfarmer he told me the car was "just around the back". I started following him and there was no car there at all
@@Coryw133 You left out the most important bit at the start.... Once upon a time....
@@dustyfarmerDon't need to be an @$$ about it
I once was pulled over for speeding on a main road. The cop says to me "if this was in the back streets, I would've left you in blood". Since then, I have zero respect for these guys.
Get your car engineered , got mine done and mod plated . 25psi falcon 100% legal . Win /win
Doesn't mean they won't defect you. ...even with engineering
@ can’t defect you if it’s as per engineers certificate, why would you mod plate then ? Been pulled over multiple times and never ticketed , they simply give up.
engineering and mod plating are two different things
@ yes I got my car engineered then over the pits for the mod plate , Simple’s
Experts everywhere
different states have different rules likewise
30/1 UPDATE: Thanks for the overwhelming support.
I've since been using the civic as a dedicated track car.. but my goal is to have the civic back on the road this year.
This will of course include engineering of the vehicle, so stay tuned for that - hopefully i can bring you guys along for that entire engineering process.
Stay safe everyone 🙏
Bro 2” wheel variance is an urban myth. Should read RTA on modifications
Don’t speak to cops. “Just bite your tongue” is the best advice
Exactly. It's important people understand their rights and exercise them! It's extremely difficult for people, especially young people to decline answering questions when a highly trained, assertive police officer is using all the tricks to make someone talk. Give your name, address and DOB. After that, respectfully decline to comment on ANY questions.
spend the extra dollars and get it engineered. such a good feeling pulling out the paper work and showing them the mod plate.
does fuck all
Can't get everything engineered man
Who through? I got plans ;)
@@willmcc05like what?
Guy is also clueless to what he believes is legal and what is not in NSW .2’’ wheels over stock is not legal in NSW. NSW only allows 7% variance as per 3.2B RTA category of modifications
This needs more attention bro! How are we supposed to fix our cars when the only available parts are aftermarket and are considered defects?
You buy a new one
@@OgglyGoogly You do know, because of the age of the car. Honda stops making certain parts right?
@@OgglyGoogly some cars are too old to just "buY a NeW oNe"
@@OgglyGoogly Piss off
@@igvtec he means buy a newer modern car. which is the response the government would say if you asked them
I've been doing RUclips for 4 years on gaming but at the same time I've been a car enthusiast in Sydney and I've been there before man. My car isn't that special but a few years ago i bought a turbo 86 SME turbo bc coils light RPF1s intake ultrex headers bucket seats. When i got the car i spent 37k for it because the paint was perfect and the care had super low ks. i decided to get it engineered and spent an extra 7k to make it legal and yet in Sydney it seemed NSW police don't give a dam even if you have certs for it and force you to constantly stop and get stickered. i put up with the constant stopping for a solid year and sold the car bought a 2017 model mostly stock. I'm sorry to see this man but it just shows you have a modified car "straight to jail" but I'm hoping to see your civic back on the road man stay blessed.
The amount of 4x4s that drive around with tyres sticking out meanwhile a civic has big tyres its an instant pull over
I was with one of my mates in his civic a few months ago when we had two highway patrol bikes begin to follow us, very obviously waiting for him to slip up, in the end nothing happened and they rode off. While they were following us though we drove past a van with half the door rusted off, mirrors held on with duct tape and various other dodgy “repairs”. They didn’t do anything to this very clearly unroadworthy van, instead they chose to pursue a car that even just with a quick glance you can tell is well looked after.
Scum of the earth m8
Should have got it engineered plane and simple. Gives us guys who properly modify with certification a bad name. And yes I have also received a red sticker on a heavily modified RX4 and I deserve it as well. Take responsibility and do it properly
Well spoken.
This kinda thing boils my blood
Out of all of the deaths on our roads in the last decade, I would bet money less then 10% are due to vehicle modifications.
If you find yourself in this situation, never speak to the police. Lawyers preach this and it does save people.
Most of the time, highway patrol are taught to coherce you into incriminating yourself without much education into what they are enforcing.
Exactly. The police are not your friends, ever.
Way less than 10%, close to zero more like it. Most of the items that they target are not directly safety related at all, safety is mainly related to lights, steering and brakes.
10% is a huge percentage. Wow.
Yea lol 10% is too much if true or false. There are heaps of dickheads with modified cars that are done poorely and thats another problem that gives these poofs the justification to target enthusiasts, this should be addressed
@@FairladyS130 yeah id reckon fatigue & speeding would be the outliers eh. And obviously what they are doing isn't rly working cos afaik the road toll is still increasing year on year.
Sorry to hear you had to deal with a common lying cop. However this is exactly why I have only ever built complete sleepers.
Surprised he didn't get you for the carbon bonnet as well. This has got me fearing taking my car back to sydney for a retune. 400km trip.
And the tint.
The tint and bonnet are the only ones I can see being reasonable defects - dark tint can be difficult to see through at night, and a carbon bonnet probably won't crumple safely for pedestrians and/or the driver + passengers. Absolutely does not warrant the power tripping done by NSWPOL, though.
@@s.baldrick3807 I think the turbo kit as well is reasonable defect. Cos lets face it, depending on the configuration it could be making ridiculous power (which would require engineer intervention to be considered safe imo). Like in this case, it might be fine - but say my daihatsu feroza was making 161kw at the treads when you compare that to stock... lol, death trap without the right braking etc etc
Only in Australia time to take a stand against this corrupt government too much bs
Strangulation by overregulation.
They're not a government. They're a corporation since 1973 under the emu and kangaroo great Seal.
Good luck, general public are jellyfish 😅
Is that a threat mate
@ nice try officer, only a cop would say something along the lines of your comment, life definitely got the better of you bud
Welcome to the club bro! Our hwp and GD are cringe when it comes to cars. So frustrating. My 226kw Civic also got red labelled back in NSW but finally I got it registered here in QLD after fixing up some defects and getting that darn engineers certificate. Good luck getting it back on the road dude! Super clean
I remember when my mates dads stock VP commodore 6cyl was defected at Bondi for “holes drilled in the muffler” and they were factory spot welds 🤦♂️ 😂
What happened afterwards?
@@hanzocloud The cop that defected him suddenly developed erectile dysfunction so his wife left him. He then developed serious depression. The end.
@@hanzocloudguarantee that the police didnt have to pay for the defect to be removed.
i think the stickers is what gets their attention, plus cops are really racist, me being a middle-aged white dude and driving a sedan i never get pulled up no matter what car i drive which really sux for other people, and isnt fair
try living in south brisbane with a MKIV supra! unless your Sudanese your fried!
This is one of the reasons I decided to replace my stock exhaust. Sounds like he had a run in with either a racist old fart, a cop who doesn't like Hondas (yes they are out there) or just a moron copper with nothing better to do with his life.
Agreed, i have an extremely loud and have driven obnoxiously in an r36 passat, but since im white, they tend to not give me anything but warnings, mind you my exhaust is valved
??????????😂😂😂😂😂😂
in my exp it also def depends on what you're driving. I've had a few fairly heavily modded cars one of which was an l300 4x4 camper van. No certification yet it had 2" lifted shackles on 31x10.5 muddies on nm paj rims that poked a lil. Many times pulled over and only ever got compliments on how cool it was lol. I don't get it. Like nothing was certified, even had a secondary race fuel cell for diesel heater under the rear.. everyone was like wow cool install
most of these anti fun regulations came out more than 25 years ago when the demographic for voters was still dominated by boomers who had to control what anyone younger than them was doing.
maybe due to not wanting to feel old they did this to infantilize young adults so they could pretend that they themselves weren't over 40.
from alcohol restrictions on certain "premixed" drinks to nightclub curfews to limits on what cars young people could drive or what mods they could have or how many passengers they could have with them and dangerously limited max speeds on freeways to curfews on driving after midnight and being stuck on a "provisional' licence for 4 years with constant police harassment and "defects" for petty or entirely made up issues during that time cause you had to wear a big red or green "p plate" at all times so they know who to "randomly" pull over.
all this due to the media scaring the boomers with edited footage from japanese hill runs and drifting that they claimed was local or random vids of $500 shitboxes with welded diffs doing circlework in empty industrial sites in the middle of the night while calling these shitboxes "high performance" in the same way that california calls almost any rifle an "assault weapon".
this caused the boomers to cry out for more and harsher restrictions and laws on the young.
this is what happens when the old outnumber the young. you get "get off my lawn" laws.
laws that seem like the restrictions that a comedically overprotective mother on a sitcom would give their teen.
this country hates its young. don't blame the millennials for these laws. blame boomers and gen x.
I'm a gen X. The problem is that both sides are from the same coin. The policies they introduce are usually similar and rarely is challenged. In 2004, a GTR driven by a teen, splits in half - knee jerk, P plater high performance vehicle ban. Both parties pushed for that.
Anyways, both parties are disconnected from reality and neither party represents the average Australian. Most people are uneducated and try to vote for the lesser of evils. Unfortunately, more money you have, naturally the more propaganda you can spread.
And also, as the population continues to shrink, Boomers dying and Millennials not giving birth, you will find that marketing and pulling power will go to the Millennials. Soon Millennials will be the largest part of the population and will have the most influence in the government.
Come on mate, thats norhing. The cureent generation wont even let us say that a man has a dick and a woman has a vagina
The boomers and their consequences have been a disaster.
just found your channel and subscribed straight away, clear explanation and I've been through the same scene with police about defecting vehicles. Abit of power trip all the time. Hope to see your civic back on the road.
You need engineer certificate and modification plate for turbo kit mod and seat. If the steering wheel came with an airbag then its unlawful to remove that steering wheel, but if it didn't have an airbag then you can put on an aftermarket steering wheel but it needs to be padded in the middle. Its your own fault for driving on the streets with uncertified and no mod plate.
Also wheels aren’t legal in NSW. Guy is clueless
@@chefgav1 you drive without wheels?
The bonnet is a defect as well the cop missed it.
@@skramoce 2"bigger is not legal in NSW
Front windshield tint is allowed only on top 10% of the window, or above the highest point swept by windshield wipers.
The sound violation can be disputed if there is no evidence. Depends on who takes care of it, but I had my AE86 defected because it had a 4AGE swapped into it. I gave it to the mechanic and he looked straight past it and gave me the rwc. I mentioned it to vic roads (in vic) and they looked past it too.
Given my experience with NSW HWP was trying to fine me for parking in a weird spot - only because the whole Sydney neighbourhood was underwater from floods (late 2022) tells me their out for blood.
That said, the worst part is over. It will be easier from here on in if you can make friends and pull favours.
@@toddscars Don’t need evidence in NSW . Anyone can dob in anyone for noise. As soon as someone dobs you in it’s straight over to RTA
@ Man that sucks. I’ve been given an epa letter once and called up to dispute it and it got revoked. I knew who dobbed me in and where, so I gave them a rego number and date - they cross referenced it and sent the guy a fine for wasting their time 😂
One thing I cannot understand (and I am a 49yo car enthusiast)
If you can afford to spend so much on quality parts etc why not simply get it engineered. ! And drive worry free.
Because engineering isn't anywhere near simple. It can cost as much as all the modifications combined sometimes and still doesn't prevent you from being defected.
Also yeah the classic “random breath test, pop your bonnet” level deception.
I had a police officer in armidale nsw highway patrol tried to put a defect notice on my fpv gt 2013 for having a supercharger, lowered car and having tinted tail lights saying its modified. It came out of the factory with a supercharger. The car was never lowered from new. The tail lights were adr approved. I challanged the charges. Got to court the judge threw out the all charges. Was sentanced guilty with no charge. Their way to save face. Took a day off work to fight this police over reach.
Short answer. Not worth it! Especially in Melbourne. Been there done that. Not fun!
Don't give in to the dogs
@@eebrikwhat's the alternative?, keep being harassed for having a hobby boomers despise
@@eebrik You literally can't do anything about them. highway patrol are the biggest bag of cnts in existence. they are a bunch of brainwashed pigs that are put in position to bully the fuck out petrolheads.
And cops wonder why no one respects them. This country is an absolute laughing stock. I really feel for you man
Problem is that it’s easy money for them. They have quotas to meet, show of work and the power trip they have is beyond belief. When I was on my p’s I had a Corolla with a built 4age. It was engineered for the ITBS, cage, tyres and brakes.
I had just been down to Wakefield for a track day and I had no rear door cards. His exact words were “because you’re missing your REAR DOORS I’m not satisfied this certificate is valid. Boom, same thing, back to rms, red label etc etc.
It was cleared via RMS as nothing had changed. I wrote a letter to the police complaints, HWP etc, and there was no response at all from them. So fuck engineering in NSW. Spent 8k for it, only to be revoked “on a hunch”
I worked next to the Huntingwood HWY patrol HQ. Took the MX5 to work and done for a frayed seatbelt that was barely noticeable. $300 and 3 demerit points.
And it doesn't matter which side of the coin you vote for, as both sides know that all property stamp duty and fines goes to the "STATE DEBT RECOVERY" pool. This means they can dip into this fund for anything they wish.
Windscreen strip has a max distance, think its 100 or 150mm.
Also can't be in path of wiper, which he could see easily by path marks I could see in the video.
Sorry to hear about the defects.
Get through it and keep cruising.
I drove a R32 Skyline drift car on the street daily for 3 years in QLD, nothing was mod plated, racing seats with no seat belts, just a racing harness, stripped interior, external wastegate setup, it was also missing a headlight because I replaced it for a headlight duct feed for the turbo, also was straight piped too
Fake
never got pulled up?
@ never, even had cops sit behind me and I never had any issues, I even drove the car from Brisbane to Sydney, stopped at Coffs Harbour and had highway patrol check it out and tell me they like it, it was crazy considering I couldn’t see shit at night and had to sit behind trucks the whole way back because I only had one working headlight
I don't support the police, but if you can spend tens of thousands on modifications you could have spent another thousand on engineering. That is the whole point of the fines. It is effectively a penalty for taking shortcuts
The point of fines is to make sure the slaves don't get any ideas.
Engineering doesn't cost "a thousand" dollars.
Step 1. Buy something that's reasonably quick and has decent brakes straight from the factory. There's plenty of options for well under 20k.
Step 2. Put good tyres on it, do some minor undetectable mods but otherwise leave it alone. Drive it to work every day and never get hassled. They can't defect you if it's stock.
Step 3. Buy a $500 beater, turn it into a track weapon, buy a helmet and take it to the drags/tarmic sprints/hillclimbs/whatever you like.
You're telling me the same police that locked people up for living their life unvaxxed or posting online are harassing car people.
it was good to catch up with you at CITR annual. growing up with you in a civic I can relate to the frustration . been there done that
don't let it discourage you, get this baby engineered, it will be a long process but hey that's why we live in Sydney . the biggest nanny state
keep it up brother 💪
Ive had my fare share of owning cars and modifing them. been lucky enough to of never been pulled over but its always been in the back of my mind. Ive finally retired from cars now tho. I sold my last one and now im just going to buy something simple and stock that goes unnoticed. Ill miss having a cool fast and loud car but its nice to finally relax and not stress anymore
It's like hearing my experience from Jonathan. I once got pulled over on my motorcycle because the car in front of me brake checked me while crossing a Yellow light and I had to slow down resulting in me crossing to the other side just as the lights turned red. There was a car behind me but I got pulled over and I was given the most condescending talk on how to ride a motorcycle by the highway patrol
yes they can be really condescending, I got pulled over here in nsw in my stock ST for driving at WOT under the speed limit - he breath tested me gave me a talking to and literally said "mate now pull your head in".. and I was being super polite btw
@@twalsh05 seriously mate.. This behaviour sucks beyond bounds
@@csajal agree, like it seriously felt like he was rage baiting me cos I hadn't actually done anything wrong
How can this be a red defect , most probably the turbo, flare wheel will not cause that, anyway stay strong mate , planning to re registered mate ? You spent fair bit money .
@dustyfarmer thanks for the clarification mate. I was a bit reluctant on that mod.
Fixed seat in a 2 door is illegal because it prevents rear passengers getting out in an accident.
The fact you have a baby seat in the back of this car is beyond comprehension.
Thats as joke mate! The boys in blue tried to do me for catless exhaust when i have a high flow in a straight mid pipe on my i30 n. Then they tried the decibels test and still was under. Even though it does make a lot of sound. Hope your back on the road soon
my i30 didn't even have a cat from factory, very next year model did.
That’s why l stick with standard stock cars. My first 3 cars were 70s & 80s Toyota Corollas. I was pulled over once in my 15 years of driving corollas and that was because l forgot to put my seatbelt on.
My car got defected at a shop whilst it had no engine in it because the cop couldn’t open the hood… had to take it to Clyde to a defect station. Told the inspector he can open the hood himself since I got a tow truck here & he opened it & closed it instantly whilst mouthing FUCK. It wasn’t a W since I had to pay for the damn tow.
Why did he use the expletives and what is "W since"
@@Simon-wz8en W meaning Win man,
@@_Deaths FTW :)
BRO WHAT
@@asdsdfadfsa Yeah crazy I know. It was a big raid on the shop due to one of the employees unfortunately losing their life during a test drive.
May have missed it but does the turbo mod have an engineers certificate?
So why didn't you get an engineering certificate when you modified it?
It’s terrifying, I’ve got a neighbour with a fully built gc8 with all the sti goodies swapped into it, and I am scared one day it won’t be there, or it will have a sticker on the windshield
I have a highly modified Monaro. This is very, very simple. If you have a modified vehicle, get an engineers certificate to cover any and all mods.
@@greglapira7186 bro your Monaro sits in the garage and gets taken to woolies once a year, pipe down
In the ‘80’s, I would buy a RX-3 from South Australia and drive it to Brisbane. Put a full blown 12a pp in it and a mental exhaust. I kept the tires legal size and modified a standard Mazda air cleaner to fit on the 48 ida Webber carbie. They couldn’t defect me because I had interstate plates. I made a baffle that fit in the tail pipe to silence it when it was warming up not to annoy the neighbours. Because it was still a 12a, they couldn’t touch it. Because the tires were a legal size, couldn’t touch me. The brakes were beefed up but looked standard, they looked stock and they didn’t know what the were looking at. The suspension was beefed up but was painted a stock black, they thought it was standard. I’m about to buy an old ‘80’s CJ5 Jeep that came with no doors or roof, a v8 and huge tires and side pipes, it’s perfectly legal but if I was to do it with a newer Jeep, I would be just like you. Defected. You just have to beat them with their own rules. Go find a very old civic and engineer a monster motor in it and get the plates and they will not be able to touch you.
@@colinmiddleton2941 This ain't the 80s anymore, engineering your car means nothing and you still will be defected
Unluggy bruz.. probably targeted based on driving/defect history... and the fact that its a lowered vehicle with visibly wide tyres. The stickers and aftermarket tailights dont help either. Those license plate scanners on HWP vehicles have pretty crazy detection range.
With turbo installs, get an engineers report and dyno reading including db's, the regulation with aftermarket seats is, if it doesnt appear in any of the range of vehicle as an option an engineers report is required, for example: evo7,8,9 all came out from factory with recaro seats, these can be put into a lancer of the same year model being the same chassis and mounting points, check the VSIs online (vehicle safety information) documents on the services nsw site for the complete listing of what can and cant be done, but as far as his db suspicions, when you get a blue get them to take a db reading
Yet they refuse to deal with the 100s of Commodores going missing everyday
too much effort theyd rather harass people minding their business.
1. Front window ‘tint’
- solid vinyl which will restrict your view vertically
2. Exhaust is too loud
- simple. If it’s compliant, leave it as is when you take it to the inspection.
3. Steering defective
- noticed you didn’t discuss this. If it’s compliant, leave it as is when you take it to the inspection.
The police can’t let you move the car because they would be liable if you got into an accident after they had said the car was ‘not road legal’
I’ve been driving modified cars and motorbikes for years. Getting pulled over is all part of the fun.
Any problem with the RX7 ?
makes me so mad hearing your story mate, you held so much restraint, good job
If you’re car is modified and doesn’t have an engineers certificate you can’t complain. The amount of k swapped eg and ek civics running around without an engineers certificate is crazy
The point is what does it matter? It’s not and issue, never will be. We build our cars faster and safer, eg harness, roll cage, upgraded brakes, wider tyres for more grip, hardened suspension, all make a car safer yet defectable. Make it make sense, if you can’t don’t make laws on it.
Even with a certificate, all mr policeman has to do is defect you & send you for a full inspection because he believes something "might" not be legit. This includes noise, they need no justification to send any vehicle for a full inspection. The presence of the certificate will only help it get through the inspection smoother (assuming everything is already in order). Nothing stops them from repeatedly stickering the same cars, even if they have full certifications....this is what's wrong with the whole situation.
@@cmoneyuser yes exactly, unfortunately they can basically just make stuff up and defect you. And it's up to the owner to get it cleared off - and they abuse this "power" that the gov has sanctioned. I mean even if they had the full RMS list of things certified in front of them, they can still just be aholes and defect it based on wanting it inspected (a legit example would be someone swapping their 4x4 tires larger after having smaller ones engineer certified rofl)..
The opening statement summed it up. Modified beyond the legal limit. I too drive a modified car but I've deliberately kept it legal and after nearly 6 years of ownership and 180k klm of driving I've never been pulled over once for anything.
The cop was correct.U gotta get ur mods engineered bro in nsw. I turbo’d a 99 Hyundai Lantra and got quoted about $2000 to get it engineered and cause you’ve added a turbo u need to get the exhaust emissions test done to prove the car has the same emissions as what it came out with from factory. So u probably can’t run a high flow cat until u pass the test then swap it out.
U also have to run a an air filter setup into an air box and not an open pod filter or no filter at all. The BOV must recirculate back into the air intake as well as the catch can if u have one. Can’t vent anything and definitely don’t run a screamer pipe, you’d near get locked up lol
Paragraphs of bootlicking cope
@@Chris_Paul1 even his wheels aren’t legal not legal but according to him are
Just got my turbo EG2 CRX Del Sol engineered today for this reason. Sick of getting targeted here in VIC.
Sydney is not Australia, the laws are very different state to state. Engineered + Mod Plate = No Problems. Then you wouldn't have to make a click bait video where you sook the entire time because you failed to go about modding your car the correct and lawful way.
Please make a follow up video with emissions and sound test results..
Why do u reckon he was pulling you over? Do you reckon it’s the history with the prior EK?
I’ve been in front of plenty highway patrol with the S2000 with Voltex wing, and never had an issue
hey also have an s2k but still stock standard besides coils... wanting to get a wing eventually but a bit scared as i've heard other guys being pulled for them. Whats the exact reason it comes across as defective? Is it just regarding wing height and that it can't be taller than the height of the car? cheers..
Curious. Can you get the vehicle engineered?
Just get it engineered !! Cops cant touch you!!
you might think that. But the reality is they can defect you and force your vehicle to be inspected any old time they like to ensure it matches what it's certified for, especially if they are suspicious on it. Then it's up to the owner to get it cleared off, which is dumb. Even this video has an example of it, the exhaust system which isn't loud has a ticket for.. being too loud
i haven't been on the radar because my turbo mirage looks like a piece of shit lol
I have a turbo mirage, been there done that, even if its engineered they can still defect you, but its easier if you got the engineering paperwork to prove it and its close to the state that it got engineered. That being said, your history (defects etc) can be looked up pretty quickly and thats prob why he targeted you. Im in the same boat. Ive only ever got one vehicle engineered way back... Since i got it engineered, they dont bother pulling any of my cars over anymore and its been over a decade. When i drive the mirage, its obvious its not standard, GSC S2 lumpy cams and some notice the brembos... Yet they dont bother pulling me over anymore (touch wood)
You just got unlucky
Shouldn't need to rely on luck, bootlicking dork
Just as my R33 project build is underway... typical. However, the engine is pretty much stock, the only things that are aftermarket is the all wheel steer, the body kit and the canon exhaust. So HOPEFULLY, it should be alright.
And if you spent money on engineering your car you would of been fine
"i bought it for $400 and spent tens of thousands of dollars getting it clean." but didn't spend a couple of grand to have it signed off/engineered to prevent these problems. Everyone knows what the situation is in Sydney with modified cars. I ran a catless turbo kitted car for a number of years and knew the risks, Why are you crying that you got caught?
@@thelizardqueen123 Not unreasonable to get it engineered considering how clueless he is to what is legal and what is not in NSW. Even his 2’’ extra on his wheels are not legal but according to him are
Just get it engineered, been there done that, good luck bro
Get it engineered and register under hot road registration
This is why I only build factory turbo/cars with a turbo model. This nearly happened to me, 400hp MPS6 on Green Ps, pulled over in Hornsby late at night, "yeah nah officer it's totally stock and legal", went back to his car, obviously defeated didnt even open the bonnet sent me on my way little did he know upgraded turbo, front mount, everything done lol. Laughed my ass off otw home.
Now I've moved to an NB MX-5, will be doing low mount turbo kit, same story, nah officer its a stock turbo car (mine not so, but when I put my rego in to repco/supercheap it says it is since there was a turbo NB 🤣).
Its a shame you got cooked but tbh, you need to hide stuff better. These dickheads are ruthless. My intercooler will be painted black and hidden from the numberplate mount in my grill. No seats with brands embroidered into them (I have kevlar bucket seat with no branding), reuse stock top hats on coils to hide ricer branding, you gotta do everything.
At the end of the day, ACAB. Cant even put cute christmas lights on my MX-5 without being skullf***ed by the dogs. Part of why I'm so hellbent on moving overseas at one point.
Sorry you went through this man.
1312!
Always the same old story hey jono. Still sucks this happened to you. Hopefully now the other cars arent targeted as a result
Got my 2002 CV8 Monaro back in 2008,fitted Harrop Supercharger & Harrop Brake kit,got the car engineered & mod plate fitted in 2015. Cops ever pull me over & start their stand over BS,just pull out all the paper work which is laminated,show them the mod plate & tell them to F off & do something more meaningful!
Highway Patrol would have to be the most arrogant hated lot in the Police Force,especially when many know F all!
All the best getting your car back on the road!
This country has gone to shit!
Meanwhile I’m in Queensland choo chooing around in my TDI Volkswagen Caddy. It sounds like a jet and train at the sound time. Lol
No point complaining. You've built a car that no longer complies with the ADR's it's built to. If you don't want to get defected, go the extra mile and get your mods engineered. You'll still get pulled over but at least you'll have papers to stop those annoying yellow and red stickers put on your windscreen.
Black on Black on Black, carbon hood, massive exhaust, and windshield tint... you advertised yourself to the police.
Plenty of modified cars out there that go unnoticed because they look like shit.
Agreed, that’s why the sleeper scene is coming back for this reason. Don’t advertise you’ve got the defects and your less like to get pinched for them
Hi mate, when I got my Lexus RC years ago I thankfully went to the guy that did the window Tinting for Lexus and Toyota and going direct it only cost me $150 and is still going strong with zero issues over 7 years later.
He told me at the time though what was the darkest window tint legal etc and ensured it was within spec.
You can’t add tint to that top section of the windscreen like you did though unless it came factory like that on the windscreen like many cars do now.
Not sure about noise factor though as had no issues with a Invidia Quad exhaust system for years now and no issues with highway patrol. It does look stock the way it fits so well though.
I used to always get warnings from Cops when I had a loud exhaust on a Subaru I used to own though.
I think also really dark tint when the car has dark paint just makes it look darker in direct sunlight.
As for pod filters they have been a illegal for a long time. I was asked to remove mine from the Subaru too.
I was very close to a defect on that one but they gave me a warning instead.
Its amazing how us aussies are such simps for regulation. Everyone screaming about mod plates/engineering without thinking that perhaps we've gone overboard in Australia.
@@Grant82gc it's a genetic condition most (99%) of Australians suffer from, remember Ned Kelly was snitched on by a member of the public
People in Australia love living in the nanny state. Makes them feel safe.
Makes my blood boil. "Engineer it" - STFU boomer, that costs more than what it does actually doing the hard work. We put up with this shit because Boomers and GenX are bootlickers. Mod plate my ass lol.
An engineer is qualified to know if something is safe. A rice boy is not. I sympathise with the YT’er but it’s self inflicted
@@chrisg6091 I bet you also let a qualified "expert" pork your wife or In this case husband
Interesting, I also driving a modified Honda in Sydney area as daily, loud exhaust, fixed bucket seat, big brake, lowered, almost sticking out tyres and wheels. But I've never got in trouble meeting police on street, get pass RBT, even got pulled over because of speeding.
But I do have stock CAT and airbag on steering wheel.
For the windscreen visor, there are documents about the limitation, from memory it should not been more then 1/10 of the height of windscreen and not in the wiper area, I suggest using shorter wiper blade maybe?
I've owned modified cars all my life. Never had a problem with cops. Be sensible, in your driving and presentation of your car, and you'll be left alone. Unfortunately most have mods that scream "defect me" and don't take the sleeper approach. I've been pulled over. I've been honest. I've been left alone. If you're getting a hard time, ask yourself truthfully what it is YOU are doing.
id fight the last 3 fines and keep your demerit points..
Im pretty lucky in my xr6t ute, i can chuck my radials and e85 drums in the ute, go to the track, change wheels, have some fun.
my air filters enclosed, external gate and screamer are hard to spot but AT worst all i have to do it throw my stock turbo manifolds on it and buy a cheap 2nd hand cat back exhaust and get the RWC
Being a HWP policeman does mental damage. I had a school friend who was one for a few years. He was great guy at school but after a few years I could not even talk to him he was so deranged. He eventually left on account of mental illness (as I think most of them do these days). I saw him a few times years after and he was totally cured on account of having some normal job for a few years. Back to being an OK guy. This may be a single anecdotal story but I think it's probably the reason why, statically, the vast majority of the older ones that keep working are complete loons.
Being in the HWP and dealing with dikheads on the roads everyday is what does the mental damage.
This guy does not seem like a dickhead. I think that's the point of the video. He is trying to be polite. That's my point. On account of meeting a few people angry they are being pulled over for breaking stupid rules who act like dicks, then to assume everyone in the universe is one, is pretty much something that would be professionally diagnosed as mentally ill.
@@originalmianos Stick to your day job mate instead of trying to be a backyard psychologist with a crystal ball, unless that is your day job.
@@originalmianos Polite or not, he didn't get his modifications certified. I think what messes up the HWP is the amount of gruesome fatalities they respond to. It's not healthy seeing people turned into corned beef or flame grilled.
Register the car here in Tasmania.
Laws are lax here.
Happy to help.
I have seen so many videos recently on defects I really hope we keep pushing the issue and something is CHANGED!
What issue would that be?
The more videos of people doing dumb stuff on YT and other platforms the tougher the rules will get.
Pretty simple really.
@@oldbloke204 What issue?? Are you slow or something?
@@lordjohnny2026 I have no issue with there being rules for modified vehicles so I see no issue.
I drive a 4wd with some mods and when you see some of the ridiculous things that people do to them and how unsafe they can be on the road I can see why the rules are what they are.
Seeing as you are obviously a bt slow I have a tip for you.
Stop wasting money on cars as most who do it end up old and broke.
You're welcome.
@@oldbloke204okay so live a boring life and save a heap of money that you dont spend and then what? Die? That’s your life? Not enjoying things you like? Each to their own but personally i would rather spend a shit ton on a car
@@Blakearoberts I retired earlier than many self funded and can do pretty much whatever I want with my time.
I used to drool over cars but now that I can afford the ones I used to fancy I can't be bothered wasting money on them.
Spend your life renting, wasting money on vehicles and working til you die if it floats your boat but not for me thanks.
I've seen how that works out for many.
Adding my, 2 cents here. The red sticker is because of the safety stuff. Steering wheel quick release. Rationale replacing a factory airbag for non airbag steering wheel can be explained as while not being a risk to anyone other than the driver, you must not make modifications that lower the vehicle occupant safety. No airbag means greater risk of trauma and potential cost to society in the way of onflowing affect from what amounts to a long butterfly effect list of things. I. E medical costs, lost productivity, ptsd of first responders, effects on their family etc, Sounds wild but this is how road safety enforcement is justified.
We truly live in a nanny state where the philosophy for vehicle ownership by the higher powers is, you will drive a standard car and YOU WILL LIKE IT!
I'm sorry you had such a crap experience.
So if something happens your basically driving around with no insurance right?
J.C, You know you earned it, now you've got to own it. You knew full well and exactly what you were doing when you did those illegal mods to a street driven vehicle & you got caught, it was only a matter of time, not if, but when. Such is life as Ned Kelly would say.
What about Car Audio mods? Can you get done for upgrading your cars' audio system?
How can he make a statement like that when he probably hasn’t even got qualifications in mechanical engineering which is what he should have to be able to firstly saying such a thing let alone write you out a defective ticket and yet if we say anything back we get even more tickets.
My brother got a defect sticker and his car was in the driveway and he hadn’t even driven it yet Australia police are absolutely ridiculous cars wouldn’t be deemed dangerous if the roads were actually safe to drive on I don’t know what the rest of Australia is like but queeensland roads are putrid and yet nothing is being mentioned about this on the news or by the government we pay all these registration and ticket fines are supposed to fund a percentage to road maintenance and I guess they are just lining their pockets as usual corruption is mandatory with the police force and Australian government