I would love to see more videos of you fishing in the water. Its a unique view where we get to see the conditions your fishing in and how you are working the bait
I have fished them with a lightly weighted screw lock swim bait hook as Kemura recommended for the larger sizes. I like the way you are fishing them here. I am so excited to see you fishing these! Love the challenge! You are having more luck than I am. Thank you so much for the great content! Please do this again.
🍺. I have fished the Deps Bullflat, the Geecrack spiron, and the OSP DoLiveSS Gill. They are basically all the same bait in principle and profile but made by different company’s. Each of these baits have great under water footage in a swimming pool available on line to watch. There are numerous ways/presentations to fish these baits with some flat out awesome actions/movements in the water. The Deps for me finished in 3rd place out of the 3 baits. I highly recommend you search these baits underwater footage.
Hey Matt seriously thank you for the actual reality of baits, by that I mean you may need more time with them. Great video without the bloated content!!!!!
I’ve fished these a lot this last year. I really like the 5.8 on a 6/0 or 7/0 swimbait hook with the cps pin. I fish it around shallow grass and let it glide into the grass. It’s been pretty successful, but I’m not sure if it’s going to continue to be effective, or if it is just different and new. We will see.
Watch the hookup tackle videos on this bait and with Kenta Kimura. The largest size is on a swimbait hook 8/0 kind of fished like a glide bait.. The smallest is good on dropshot ( use a wide gap dropshot hook, it's thick). Free rig and Texas rig in between sizes. Everything on a spinning rod with light line (8lb flouro) except for the biggest size (5.8). Flat side is meant to be up. You can nail weight it for further glides or faster sink rates. You can fish it like a senko. It's worth figuring it out. Use a screw lock keeper to improve the durability/ save money..
Been fishing the Bull Flat a couple years now free rig. Don’t how the problem like you had loosing tails and baits though . Hook Up Tackle does some very good videos on the Bull Flat baits and techniques.
They do get bit. I don’t go through as many baits when using an ewg screw lock type hook. OSP makes a similar bait called the dolive gill. In similar sizes the OSP bait is not quite as heavy and to me glides a little easier particularly when rigged backwards which works well when skipping under docks, overhangs, etc.
A minute in - They're mainly a free rig bait...this should be interesting. It's made to catch water on the fall with free rig. Post View Edit - Caught them t-rigging a free rig bait! That's impressive. Just goes to show you how without preconceived ideas of how it's fished...fresh eyes can make it work. Liked it!
I fished the 4.8” Texas rigged with a screw lock hook last night. Skipping it in to cover is a fun way to fish it. My bites came as a topwater bite or as soon as it fell. ***get Berkley to make something like this. You can’t buy the deps in white, which is a killer color, you have to order white from Japan.
I finally got the chance to try my gillys out I’m just mentioning them as they are a bluegill style bait. Like these I went through probably the same amount. The over all profile and they way they flutter are obvious bass magnet’s but I wish they would just be a touch tougher plastic!
Throw these all of the time on the Delta. Usually Texas rig with light weight 1/8-1/4 and let it spiral. Gets hammered. I bet it would work punching or with a heavier weight just as well.
Tried it a few times when the bass were schooled and feeding on bluegills. It works, but I did much better with other plastics that resemble more of a crawdad, even though they were feeling on bluegills.
Like the other folks are sayin, try some screw lock hooks (it’ll go better from my personal experiences). Try the Gee crack for a little more durability if you’d like that, too.
I think production is easier in Japan. In the US, I think the volume requirements to get the same quality manufacturing is too high and difficult to match for newer concepts and designs. I'm sure we'd all be doing it if we could.
I haven't tried them myself & it looks like they no problems getting bites. The durability seems like an issue. What if you uses a non weighted swimbait hook & still texas rig them? Then the screwlock may keep baits on longer? I use swimbaits hooks like that all time with worms, flukes, creature baits & baits always last alot longer. Doesn't seem to affect amount of bites for me
@@MattStefanFishing great minds think alike... I prefer screwlock swimbait hooks for alot my soft plastics , use them alot more than ewg offset because my baits last so long. Kinda hard to thread into zman baits but once you do they last really really long time!
Would have been interesting to see you throw on one of your favorites and go back through to see if thr hookup percentage was any better or if you got a few bites fishing behind it
weedless jig head might have improved the hook set. that tail coming off so easily is an issue. maybe a Z-man material would be best for that kind of tail design.
Wow like 3 back to back casts where they straight robbed you. I have personally used the largest size, texas rigged on a highly pressured small lake in CA where 2 fish is a good day. I caught 4 monster bass in a few hours
I'm not familiar with those baits. They sorta remind me of a creature bait crossed with a Gilly. Normally, I prefer softer plastics because it makes hook sets easier. But those might be a bit too soft. If you're ever looking to try more baits, let me know. I'd really like to send you some of my homemade worms and bladed jigs. I don't ever sell them, but I would sure like to say "Matt Stefan caught a fish on my baits!" for bragging rights.
Honestly I don't know what to say. I use to have the same issue with max scent till I finally figured it out. Maybe weightless!?! Maybe give it an extra pause!?! Trailer?!?
@@secretbassrigs You gotta give'm 15-30 seconds or let them move off before you set the hook!!! A little super glue at the head doesn't hurt either. Once they bite they really don't drop it, just let them get the whole thing in their mouth.
When a day on the water is getting more expensive ,average guys-find that saving money for plastics equals 1 gal of gas ,not so bad ,but you can make your own at home in a micro wave like that deeps like some others first get bit great day matt
@@MattStefanFishing They would cost me about $16 a pack since I’m in Canada, and they only come with 6 in a pack for the 3, and 3.8 inch. The 4.8 inch only come with 4. You ripped through 5 in 17 minutes. Those things will burn a hole in my wallet. 🤣🤣 I would try them, but buying them constantly would suck.
@@Triple87 there are alternatives. Either way, I'm sure Deps will find a way to improve them. And sometimes you just need to have what works, at the right time at the right place, in your arsenal.
Matt I got a comment from you yesterday with a number to text back to came a prize because I won 2 new reels. I was so excited. Had picture of them. Then I realized it was a scam. Not happy about not getting reel and pissed about being scammed!!!
Hey man don't know if you look back at your post but FYI: Hook Up Tackle (tackle store out west) has a handful of videos about this lure and the OSP DoLive, including a couple with a team design/test guy from Japan and his tips. Here's a link to a fellow discussing a backward rigging of the bait that looks intriguing too. Undercut banks! ruclips.net/video/VvCkRKCeT_Q/видео.html Looks like the medium screw lock from Owner is a big help with tearing up the baits. They're pricey but they look interesting. All the best
You start off with A beaver style bait;you end up with a giant cockaroach after the tail is gone. Not durable but unique bait. Wish you wouldnt have lost baits though.
Ive lost numerous due to bluegill ripping the tail off. Ive followed up with a 6" senko and was successful. The bull flat reminds me of the bellows gill. Another fad bait.
Some lures, I'll never use just by the look. This includes one of them. Secondly, if they want you to test it, test it in the hardest place so they can fail or win. Give them no slack. A lot of Japanese lures be too soft, too bulky, too expensive, and too weird. Not interested. 5 cast, 5 lures gone? Good luck mates.
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I would love to see more videos of you fishing in the water. Its a unique view where we get to see the conditions your fishing in and how you are working the bait
Ive done a bunch in the past and more coming.
I started fishing the 3.8 on a free rig and it’s one of my confidence baits now
awesome!
excellent free rig bait Matt. Also the small one is good on a drop shot.
ive got more ordered to try some other techniques
That's exactly what I said... It was designed for the Free Rig. It's wild how much he got bit on the t-rig.
I have fished them with a lightly weighted screw lock swim bait hook as Kemura recommended for the larger sizes. I like the way you are fishing them here. I am so excited to see you fishing these! Love the challenge! You are having more luck than I am. Thank you so much for the great content! Please do this again.
ive got more ordered!
I really liked seeing the entire cast, whether you land the fish or not. It’s still educational.
thanks!
I think they are worth a shot. I would like to see you try again.
I will be!
🍺. I have fished the Deps Bullflat, the Geecrack spiron, and the OSP
DoLiveSS Gill. They are basically all the same bait in principle and profile but made by different company’s. Each of these baits have great under water footage in a swimming pool available on line to watch. There are numerous ways/presentations to fish these baits with some flat out awesome actions/movements in the water. The Deps for me finished in 3rd place out of the 3 baits. I highly recommend you search these baits underwater footage.
will do thanks for sharing!
I just got some 2" bullflats in the mail yesterday, can't wait to try em out with my BFS gear!
Right on!
Great challenge! Interesting results! 👍
ive already ordered more. i need to keep trying them!
Owner Twistlock light hook. Free rig weight. 😉
thanks!
I will give them a try for sure.
ive already ordered more!
Do this challenge with Geecrack Bellows Gill. Much more durable and highly effective in generating bites.
ill look into it!
I love flatter beavers and these look killer! Thanks for the tip Matt!
youll like these!
I really like this video. Here comes the flood of baits your way.
Haha!
Hey Matt seriously thank you for the actual reality of baits, by that I mean you may need more time with them. Great video without the bloated content!!!!!
@@miketurenne7204 thanks!
I’ve fished these a lot this last year. I really like the 5.8 on a 6/0 or 7/0 swimbait hook with the cps pin. I fish it around shallow grass and let it glide into the grass. It’s been pretty successful, but I’m not sure if it’s going to continue to be effective, or if it is just different and new. We will see.
time will tell!
I do the same with great success
Expensive hobby at this rate!
Yep
Enjoyed it, Matt
thanks!
That thing has a really cool action like a falling leaf on a light free rig
Yep!
Watch the hookup tackle videos on this bait and with Kenta Kimura. The largest size is on a swimbait hook 8/0 kind of fished like a glide bait.. The smallest is good on dropshot ( use a wide gap dropshot hook, it's thick). Free rig and Texas rig in between sizes. Everything on a spinning rod with light line (8lb flouro) except for the biggest size (5.8).
Flat side is meant to be up. You can nail weight it for further glides or faster sink rates. You can fish it like a senko. It's worth figuring it out. Use a screw lock keeper to improve the durability/ save money..
Try the 5.8... it's a good one!
Great around wood and grass edges. Maybe riprap but definitely for shallow applications like 10 ft or shallower.
Texas rig go unpegged so it gets the most action
Wacky rig it when the tail comes off
thanks for the tips. ive got more ordered and on the way!
Been fishing the Bull Flat a couple years now free rig. Don’t how the problem like you had loosing tails and baits though . Hook Up Tackle does some very good videos on the Bull Flat baits and techniques.
thanks for sharing!
I like this style of video.
thanks!
They do get bit. I don’t go through as many baits when using an ewg screw lock type hook. OSP makes a similar bait called the dolive gill. In similar sizes the OSP bait is not quite as heavy and to me glides a little easier particularly when rigged backwards which works well when skipping under docks, overhangs, etc.
thanks for sharing! ill check them out!
Thunder Hawk lures makes something similar that is made out of the elazetch stretchy plastic.
ill check it out
Love this video. More like this.
You got it!
I saw the guys at hook up tackle rig it back to front and they say THEN it really glides well.
interesting
A minute in - They're mainly a free rig bait...this should be interesting. It's made to catch water on the fall with free rig.
Post View Edit - Caught them t-rigging a free rig bait! That's impressive. Just goes to show you how without preconceived ideas of how it's fished...fresh eyes can make it work. Liked it!
Haha! you got that right!
I fished the 4.8” Texas rigged with a screw lock hook last night. Skipping it in to cover is a fun way to fish it. My bites came as a topwater bite or as soon as it fell. ***get Berkley to make something like this. You can’t buy the deps in white, which is a killer color, you have to order white from Japan.
that would be cool!
I finally got the chance to try my gillys out I’m just mentioning them as they are a bluegill style bait. Like these I went through probably the same amount. The over all profile and they way they flutter are obvious bass magnet’s but I wish they would just be a touch tougher plastic!
agreed
Throw these all of the time on the Delta. Usually Texas rig with light weight 1/8-1/4 and let it spiral. Gets hammered. I bet it would work punching or with a heavier weight just as well.
thanks for sharing!
Matt! This is the future of flipping 😢
ok
Interesting bait, thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching!
I had the same problem. Try a fluke style hook, better hook ups. Thanks Matt
Thanks for the tip!
They look intriguing but I would be concerned about durability but for sure worth a try!!!
they got bites!
You may have another bag of those! I gave you a few at the last LaX Championship tournament.
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Those are the ones I used in the video haha! Ive got more ordered and on the way so you made me very interested
Try the Hutch swim jig on the Mississippi!
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Tried it a few times when the bass were schooled and feeding on bluegills. It works, but I did much better with other plastics that resemble more of a crawdad, even though they were feeling on bluegills.
thanks for sharing with us!
Free rig pr lightly weighted swim bait hook works really well
thanks!
Great video and awesome technique Matt! I really need to get good at flipping and pitching baits. Do you have videos on your technique? Thanks!
ive done a bunch like this one ruclips.net/video/IYlAhRFOENQ/видео.html
The Bull Flat works great on a free rig also. If you like that checkout the Jackall Honey Nugget and the OSP DoLive SS Gill.
ill check them out!
If you rig the 3” size on a 1/8 oz swim bait hook it give it an amazing glide. The screw lock on the hook makes it stay on the hook for a long time
thanks for sharing!
Like the other folks are sayin, try some screw lock hooks (it’ll go better from my personal experiences). Try the Gee crack for a little more durability if you’d like that, too.
ill give it a try
That was way cool, I do have some....
give them a try!
pretty sure i suggested these like a year ago lol. they glide well if you are skipping under docks too. japan is ahead of the curve
i could see them being great at skipping
I think production is easier in Japan. In the US, I think the volume requirements to get the same quality manufacturing is too high and difficult to match for newer concepts and designs. I'm sure we'd all be doing it if we could.
cant help losing a tail
now i throw it on a vmc swimbait hook and the scewlock really saves it from coming off.
gotta have mend it to save $$
thanks for sharing!
Berkley getting ready to knock this bait off if you give em good feed back 😆
oh boy!
Is this bait similar to a Gee Crack Bellows Minnow? Looks ,like the same shape. Don't know if I can afford to fish them but, the bites are impressive.
yep its similar www.tacklewarehouse.com/Deps_Bull_Flat_Creature_Bait/descpage-DEBFSA.html?from=MSFG
That's pretty awesome for this time of the year but did it put line twist?
i didnt use it long enough to see any line twist issues haha
Use the bull flat free rig or some sort of Owner twist lock weighted hook
thanks for sharing!
Looks like a great soft plastic, but I would go with something more durable. I like the bait challenge/review format
thanks!
I haven't tried them myself & it looks like they no problems getting bites. The durability seems like an issue. What if you uses a non weighted swimbait hook & still texas rig them? Then the screwlock may keep baits on longer? I use swimbaits hooks like that all time with worms, flukes, creature baits & baits always last alot longer. Doesn't seem to affect amount of bites for me
lots of people suggesting the screwlock
@@MattStefanFishing great minds think alike... I prefer screwlock swimbait hooks for alot my soft plastics , use them alot more than ewg offset because my baits last so long. Kinda hard to thread into zman baits but once you do they last really really long time!
Would have been interesting to see you throw on one of your favorites and go back through to see if thr hookup percentage was any better or if you got a few bites fishing behind it
thats would have been cool...dang
weedless jig head might have improved the hook set. that tail coming off so easily is an issue. maybe a Z-man material would be best for that kind of tail design.
Great point!
Impressive 👍
Thanks 👍
This was a great video
thanks!
Wow like 3 back to back casts where they straight robbed you. I have personally used the largest size, texas rigged on a highly pressured small lake in CA where 2 fish is a good day. I caught 4 monster bass in a few hours
time is money sometimes
every cast counts!
I'm not familiar with those baits. They sorta remind me of a creature bait crossed with a Gilly. Normally, I prefer softer plastics because it makes hook sets easier. But those might be a bit too soft.
If you're ever looking to try more baits, let me know. I'd really like to send you some of my homemade worms and bladed jigs. I don't ever sell them, but I would sure like to say "Matt Stefan caught a fish on my baits!" for bragging rights.
haha! im open to it!
@@MattStefanFishing That would be great! Let's make it happen. If you still have my email address you can shoot me an email and we can go from there.
Did you see Intuitive Angling recently? Randy cut a Brush Hog in half saying that's how he prefers to use them.
Hey Matt does it come with super glue 🤦🏻♂️🎣🐟😂😂😂
I wish!
Honestly I don't know what to say. I use to have the same issue with max scent till I finally figured it out. Maybe weightless!?! Maybe give it an extra pause!?! Trailer?!?
what was the trick you figured out for the Max scent?
@@secretbassrigs
You gotta give'm 15-30 seconds or let them move off before you set the hook!!! A little super glue at the head doesn't hurt either. Once they bite they really don't drop it, just let them get the whole thing in their mouth.
@@terrytresemer2864 got it. thanks for the reply. Tight lines!
i just need to play around with them more. I really am intrigued and have ordered more!
Haven't tried it yet. Does it float?
its a highly buoyant bait
It's slow slow sink. Add a nail weight for faster sink or a ball head, free rig it.
All use it
thanks for watching!
Those baits are fire, but they are fragile. Screw lock hooks really help though. Amazing on free rigs
thanks for sharing!
When a day on the water is getting more expensive ,average guys-find that saving money for plastics equals 1 gal of gas ,not so bad ,but you can make your own at home in a micro wave like that deeps like some others first get bit great day matt
thanks for sharing!
Popular freerig bait
thanks for sharing!
Round side down!
That can be can confusing. It was jumping to the side when you pulled it up because you had it backwards.
ok
You should have had two rods one with those and one with Berkeley … and see if the bite ratio was
Good idea
You can rig those backwards with no weights and it will glide into cover rather than drop down
sounds good!
Works good, but I feel like going through them that fast will get old and the $’s will start racking up pretty quick. 🤔
it could but i also like getting bites and it seemed to get a bunch of bites
@@MattStefanFishing They would cost me about $16 a pack since I’m in Canada, and they only come with 6 in a pack for the 3, and 3.8 inch. The 4.8 inch only come with 4. You ripped through 5 in 17 minutes. Those things will burn a hole in my wallet. 🤣🤣
I would try them, but buying them constantly would suck.
@@Triple87 there are alternatives. Either way, I'm sure Deps will find a way to improve them. And sometimes you just need to have what works, at the right time at the right place, in your arsenal.
@@secretbassrigs I’m definitely going to give them a shot. The bite is definitely enough for me to get a pack or two.
Use a screw lock hook . Probably keep it on .
ill give it a try!
Where in the world are you located? That looks like paradise
Wisconsin
I had a similar experience. The bait isn’t in stock enough to give it a second try.
i know TW has a bunch at the moment since i just ordered some more.www.tacklewarehouse.com/Deps_Bull_Flat_Creature_Bait/descpage-DEBFSA.html?from=MSFG
Looks like they would be killer if they were made out of elaztech, but then they wouldn't have job security lol
haha!
Matt I got a comment from you yesterday with a number to text back to came a prize because I won 2 new reels. I was so excited. Had picture of them. Then I realized it was a scam. Not happy about not getting reel and pissed about being scammed!!!
Welcome to the internet
everyone should report the scam bots to scrub them off the comment section
Definitely a scammer. I will never ask for any money on my giveaways. scammers suck!
@@MattStefanFishing 👍
Hey man don't know if you look back at your post but FYI: Hook Up Tackle (tackle store out west) has a handful of videos about this lure and the OSP DoLive, including a couple with a team design/test guy from Japan and his tips.
Here's a link to a fellow discussing a backward rigging of the bait that looks intriguing too. Undercut banks!
ruclips.net/video/VvCkRKCeT_Q/видео.html
Looks like the medium screw lock from Owner is a big help with tearing up the baits. They're pricey but they look interesting.
All the best
No secrets left lol
Nope haha
Weightless and free rig are the ticket
ive got more ordered to play around with them some more. I liked what i saw...only had 17 minutes haha
I like the OSP version too. But like the Deps, they are soft and don’t last long
They get bit for sure. A great rig is the Free Rig
ill give it a try!
@@MattStefanFishing sent you a link in Facebook messenger
Not very durable but, looks like they are fish catching baits. Thanks !
from what i saw I agree!
I would also give them a shot if anyone wants to send them lol
haha
Like senkos they catch fish but every fish you catch or hook usually destroys them lol
agreed
I think you would be better off using a screw lock ewg hook
ill give it a try when i get my order in with them. thanks!
You start off with A beaver style bait;you end up with a giant cockaroach after the tail is gone. Not durable but unique bait. Wish you wouldnt have lost baits though.
haha
Ive lost numerous due to bluegill ripping the tail off. Ive followed up with a 6" senko and was successful. The bull flat reminds me of the bellows gill. Another fad bait.
Thanks for sharing
Designed to be a free rig bait
gotcha. it does mention light texas rig on the TW site as well.
@@MattStefanFishing it’s a sick bait on a free rig around vertical cover like pilings. It almost falls like a flutter spoon
Free rig it.
I will when i get some more in! thanks!
Using a bullet weight completely kills the point of this flat. Using a weighted ewg or free rig it.
Thanks for sharing
Nice job Matt. Here is the hook up tackle crew showing how to rig these. Cheers! ruclips.net/video/sAyvNLcCvPM/видео.html
Thanks
May get costly
it could but i like getting bites!
At $12 for 4 to 6 that is a little pricey for a plastic.
not cheap!
But. almost 2 bucks each?
pricey!
Some lures, I'll never use just by the look. This includes one of them. Secondly, if they want you to test it, test it in the hardest place so they can fail or win. Give them no slack. A lot of Japanese lures be too soft, too bulky, too expensive, and too weird. Not interested. 5 cast, 5 lures gone? Good luck mates.
it was more than five casts
It’s a free-rig bait.
thanks!
It needs a lighter weight as well
thanks for sharing
Not even a one fish wonder bait $12.00 for 4 of the 4.8 size
could have been had i hooked them
Get Cyberflex
thanks for the tip
go get some more
already ordered them from TW
Pay Matt comment
thanks!
$11 in 17min.
haha!