MinisForum BD790i Ryzen 7945HX a true Desktop killer.
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00:14 Checking out the box
00:51 SSD's for the build
01:25 RAM options
01:45 PSU Be Quiet (titanium not platinum) haha
02:30 the Case I'm going to build it into
02:57 taking a look at the mobo & why I chose this over building a desktop
05:32 Port Selection
07:00 Taking the ssd fan off
07:45 installing the ssd
08:34 the Ram installation
10:02 install the cpu fan bracket
11:38 the PSU open box and install
12:48 mobo install
14:54 Performance Data (data chart first)
16:16 Handbrake Encode Testing graphs
19:46 Time Spy Performance (CPU)
21:04 Fire Strike CPU / Physics
21:33 3D Mark CPU test
22:45 Fire Strike Graphics Score
24:14 Time Spy Graphics score
24:23 Night Raid Score
24:36 Raw Data images 
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it looks quite appropriate for most cpu intensive workloads! p14 max might be coming out soon it would be great to see your review on them eventually
basically yes. it pulls less power than most desktops while being more powerful. mainly in multi threaded stuff.
While the iGPU side is weak. The CPU has stacks of memory. The board also compensates by letting you drop in a 7900XT if you want.
yep. Ive just been using the iGPU because it mostly does encode work for me. But its a little beast.
Thank you for this video!
Thank you for watching.
Excellent presentation. Thank you. Would really love a link to that rack you installed it all in.
The "case" rack is www.amazon.com/dp/B0B66TWPPR?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details
Its pretty good. I have a ruff review of it on my channel.
Thank you for watching.
4:50 that's the bios battery
Ya i corrected myself in mid talk.
Its even more painful when you think that the 680m is twice as fast as the Vega cores on the 5900HS and the 780m is another 30% faster than that (I have both and have compared)
haha thats true. It could play old like 2006 old games maxed at 1080p. Love Oblivion, i could also play crysis probably. but ya by todays standards its not good.
I call the iGPU sufficient for daily use. haha
That's why they included the overcompensator PCIe 5 slot. Put all the balls you need into graphics. The CPU already has you covered, just feed it lotsa memory.
what is the final cinebench r23 scores? Also can you test a hdr 4k video 2 hours x265 10bit and see what is the average timeframe? i got about 7-8 hours per pass on a 7950x, but this thing is a power guzzler on idle, if the 7945hx is better at power idling and does almost as good as the desktop one i'll trade it in for it
using the Fast 2160p60 4K HEVC (10bit) about 21fps. but every video is different. I can get differences of 5-10fps from one to the next.
cinebench R23 final score 30605
@@computer-tech-more that's about good as the 7950x, how many hours average and framerate say on a 4k HDR x265 10bit ?
@@Ifalvaradoi let it run for about 30min.
The 7940HS with the 780M is a way better choice for gaming. I just ordered this for a SFF workstation build at work, which I expect it will excel at with 16c.
if your just going to use the iGPU yes but if you attach a full GPU teh 9845HX will be better.
AMD has great iGPU's.
@@computer-tech-more Yes, was only talking about the iGPU. Obviously everything changes with dGPU. Most processors are so fast these days, they can all push a decent dGPU.
this cpu is so good, basically 95% the performance of a desktop 7950X, but much more power efficient (max power draw is like 110 Watts on all cores), its a laptop chip but more powerful than most current desktop chips.
the best score i found on geekbench for this cpu is 2979 on single core and 20214 on multi core, in contrast the 7950X max scores are 3125 on single core and 21375 multi core, except the 7945hx consumes at least 90 watts less to achieve this same performance, and putting it on a desktop ITX motherboard means you can feed it more power.
thats a primary reason i found this board so interesting. I search the web for people who actually tested the intel 13900HX (or what ever the top intel 13gen mobile is) for comparing clocks to watts. This was overall better.
ironically at low power intel better and at over 110W intel better. but between this one. I dont recall the benchmark the user did. Can remember where I saw it reddit probably.
@@computer-tech-more honestly my only complaint from the 7945HX is why the heck didn't they include a radeon 780M instead of a 610M. Could have made a massive improvement in graphics performance, the only reason i can come up with is perhaps it would increase the power draw. Not a huge fan of the intel chips with hybrid architecture, for desktop you'll want something with 100% performance cores, but they're good for mobile/laptops (like the core ultra chips). I saw a new chris titus video and he just got a xeon workstation instead because he didn't want e-cores stuff lol.
@@pouf-dk3nqactually the hybrid thing is a reason i have been waiting on the desktop side. Making sure it will work as intended or I should say as I want it to.
Best gaming when u pair with 3080+ gpu with less power draw! A 650w psu is plenty for this! 😎
Hey since there are not many infos yet - I got the BD790i and my temperature on core#0 spikes to 85+ degree celsius on every click and to 91 degree running all core on max. even with the fan on 100% i can't get it any colder. i've read about some heatsink problems and my question is: your temperatures seem to be fine, did you experienced any of my problems?
so what temps are you getting running tests. check Cinebench R23 multi. CPU max wattage around 100W. Temps in the 90c range.
if your getting 90-100Watts in the CPU package your fine. if the power is lower probably something wrong with the cooler.
I got this mobo and is awesome, I really happy to have it but I would like to reduce the temperature a little bit more but I'm not able to find a windows programs that detect the fans, I tried from the BIOS to do it, but I got confused with the options there. I'm waiting the support from minisforum but for any chance, have you played with those parameters?
oh. I had to just randomly pick numbers on the fan. its basically only a high low if I recall.
The mobo doesnt really let you set up good fan curves.
@@computer-tech-more oh ok ok, well I will try that then, I sent an email to minisforum support asking for a guide to setup the fans on the BIOS but if they won't answer me, I will randomly change them, thanks 😬👍🏻
@@dhesteryon ya sorry. wish I could be more detailed what i did. i didnt under stand there bios.
@@computer-tech-more don't worry, just the developers know what they tried to shown in the BIOS 😅. Luckily yesterday the Fan Control got an update and now is detecting all fans, so time to play with the fans 😬
I bought the um780 with 64gB and 1tb ssd.
Would this be a better setup. ? I trade stocks and have a crap load of windows open
Also if you had to build it again, what would you change to make it better
it depends on what you want. That would make a great tv box or basic compute or low powered gaming / emulation. Main disadvantage is no expand-ability other than storage and RAM. No gpu no egpu.
the BD790i is a full desktop replacement when paired with a GPU. YOu need to buy the power supply and have an extra fan. so there is extra cost there. plus a case.
I have an 8th Gen Nuc love it for a tv box. small and efficient. plan on making a NES emulator out of it one of these days.
@@caddytrader hmm thats good. The bios is to basic and FanControl doesnt work very well. I ended up removing it.
The heatsink cooler design. I guess more heat pipes to just have lower thermals.
On the board itself USB4 or USB3gen2x2 ports would be nice.
But in-terms of what I actually built. Its as good as it can be. Im glad i did this over a desktop chip (atleast for now) power efficiency.
@@computer-tech-more
So for sure this is faster than the um780. ?
Also what graphic card would you recommend. I have 3 Dell monitors that run @144 hertz.
The um780 runs them real smooth.
I do no game , I just trade stocks and have about 5 platforms open, but at the same time Imwatch RUclips in 4k.
I cannot handle when a computer stutters and glitches when trying to watch 4k.
I want to beat it to death a hammer 😂
Recommend me a card and what’s the fastest memory
@@computer-tech-more
And thank you for responding. 👍👍👍
Hi!
Do you know where to buy it?
Greetings and thank you in advance!
I think i bought mine right from miniforum website or amazon or newegg. one of those 3.
I just don't get why this has the 610m. My 7940HS has the 780m and traditionally, the "HX" version has a higher TDP than U, H, or HS. This makes little sense to me. curiouser and curiouser...
I'm going to say it has to do with power draw in the total package and heat (in the small area).
I have a laptop with a 5900hs when I ran benchmarks for the IGPU the CPU score was always always lower than when I ran the same test with the DGPU.
now I would have liked something a bit more powerful. but its fine. Could play Oblivion maxed out at 1080p probably. hahaha.
The 7945HX is not the same product as the 7940HS. 7940HS is based on the Rembrandt APU die, which is a monolithic die with one CCX (8 cores) + a 780M iGPU. the 7945HX is based on a desktop Raphael package, the same one used in desktop Ryzen 7000 series (7950X, etc). They just package it differently for mobile (no heatspreader, BGA soldered instead of socketed LGA) and give it a lower power limit. The 610m is the iGPU on the IOD of Raphael.
The 7945HX is a desktop 7950X with a reduced power limit.
How long it takes to get it? I just ordered one
I think it took about a week for it to arrive.
@@computer-tech-more your order date ?
@@M7mdCC around march 2nd i think
The motherboard (and other computer PCB's) are way more durable than you seem to think they are.
There is also a clear coating over the whole thing that you can't really see, for even more added protection.
Dont be reckless with it, but unless you really gouge it with a screwdriver or something by mistake, you're gonna be alright.
well i was on carpet cant be to careful with static. I tend to generate static electricity.
but ya i generally agree. LTT has a video about that. it was shocking haha.
oh but thanks for the note about the clear coat i did notice the shine but just though it was the mobo plastics they used. Thx.
@@computer-tech-more they used to be much more fragile 30,40+ years ago. The older the stuff you are working with, the more you want to use precautions for static and such… both because of the construction of the board (+ lack of coating, etc) and the resiliency of the individual components.
Just to put it perspective how rare this is…i have been, relative to you in your video, completely reckless with my stuff over the past 25+ years… and ive never had anything fail this way… and I have had many thousands of boards for all sorts of electronics during that time.
The only time I use some kind of protection is with high voltage where it could kill the board, and me… though, im more worried about the board usually.
Other PCs have a heatsink. This heatsink has a PC.
makes it low profile haha. like a nuc on steroids
The metric you graphed of FPS per core and by extension FPS per core per clock is not useful because encoding does not scale linearly with thread count (Especially above 8 cores) - If you were to run the encoding with only, say, 4 or 8 cores on the 7945HX, you would see considerably higher "FPS per core".
well yes I proved that tough I did not explain it. I think its useful sorry if you did not.
thanks. I can't stop watching about this product until your comment. edit: the 8-core version makes more sense. no wonder it is out of stock
@@zodiacfml its sort of what you want /need. the 770i 8core has a better iGPU but this has the better CPU. I needed a cpu can can add gpu later so 790i.
glad it could help. its been doing well so far. about a month I guess.
edit: the iGPU in the 2 CPU options are the same. For some reason I had thought they were different.
@@computer-tech-more Hmm..good point. If I have 16 core CPU doing encoding work, while it is inefficient at maximizing work, then it also means I still have a smoothly running PC for browsing, or even games! That is nice to have, pretty luxury though. Getting the 16 core is $120 more.🤔🤔 THanks for the reply, I definitely reconsider.
@@computer-tech-more There is no 760i. There is a 770i, which has exactly the same iGPU.
is good but . if you gonna add a gpu whats the point of having an ultra compact motherboard if a decent gpu is more than double the volume of the motherboard and a integrated gpu is not enought to play , and if you do the math . for 200 dollars more , you can have a very decent computer with a good gpu , parts upgradeables and if you go for intel then a relative good second hand value in 2 or 3 years if you go for high end of what the chipset support
well it all depends on what you are looking for. I did the math boy did i do the math. I was very tempted to go and build a full desktop. But for a mobo that actually liked its specs was more like $300. plus i need a decent cooler another $50 plus. then it would have a higher power draw at low power states where this will be living 80% of the time.
This just suited my needs better.
Like i here you biodegradability is great. that was one thing i really had to think about.
Im also not gaming on it. its mostly encode and decoding work loads. CPU based for better smaller files. Future I can add my current RTX3070 and have a gaming pc. for old games by then.
Or i could build a killer NAS with it. the pci 16 can bifurcate to 8x4x4. lots of HDD's. buhahaha.
but ya going mobile CPU you have to know what you are getting and understand the limitation before the purchase. and its not for everyone.
@@computer-tech-morewith a Radeon AMD gpu you could even install hackintosh and with a pcie nvme gen5, be faster than the current mac studio m2 ultra for many tasks. Actually for the price of a serious mac studio 4-6k usd you could buy two of these (with 6900 xt 96gb ram and 4tb gen 5 ,... EACH ) and have spare money for a macbook ipad or iphone or windows laptop 2 in 1 with touchscreen.. then using PARSEC you can work remotely without too much lag (you can even game or do video work..). Same idea goes for that setup instead of a macbook pro m3 max with high specs...
Comparing to other budget windows solutions, the upcoming askrock deskmeet x600 is an option as well. Self contained but with more limited gpu options.
the era of the big desktop and water cooling is over.
I wouldnt go that far. but certainly this kind of product is super cool
soon enough