Everything else aside, it really does bother me that Quackity trying to keep his private life private makes him "shady". It's ridiculous, and really revealing of a culture obsessed with celebrities, that people feel entitled to the personal details of an entertainment figure's life. Once you share too much of yourself, you can't take it back.
i agree, why wanting to have a private life turns you into shady? the only reason to think that way is having a huge parasocila relationship with him thinking they deserve all the info of his life
If your brother is a groomer and you're making videos for children, he should be responding to the allegations. Definitely shady and weird that he isn't.
@@Walkthroughman9akaJack How is Quackity responsible for what his brother does? At the end of the day, he’s not the one responsible for said allegations - not to mention giving that sort of private information is teetering dangerously in terms of familial relations. Besides, what good would Quackity’s word do here? Brother or not, they’re still grown men who can speak for themselves. Demanding someone explain their personal family issues on the internet is entitled and parasocial as all hell. Leave the man be, it’s really not that difficult.
@@Kittiesftw y'all keep saying that like he had the whole mcyt community in his shoulders. these people had always been shitty, it was only a matter of time for them to be exposed.
Bro its like after techno died some Evil spirit was unleashed that turned the whole MC comunity into monsters. Kinda happy he didn't see what his friends would become
It’s not the whole MC community. There are kinda two halves to SMP Minecraft- those that swear and those that don’t, or alternatively “DSMP and friends” and “Hermitcraft and friends”. Basically all the problems have been on the DSMP side. Shubble was involved in the Wilbur stuff obviously but it wasn’t her coming under fire.
The big difference is old mc youtubers were treated as normal people who were given a voice, while new mc youtubers are treated as hollywood celebrities Actually this can be said for a lot of old youtubers, it was previously treated as a hobby, now it is a job. Now youtubers follow parasocial culture (especially in the minecraft and vtuber communities) in vtubers parasocial relationships are encouraged so the company behind whoever they are can make more money off donations (this is done by weird thumbnails or simply not discouraging unhealthy parasocial relationships like others have done)
It’s quackity’s team’s fault for hiring fans and accepting free artwork from kids in the first place. You can’t expect a professional environment when your both hiring fans and accepting free labour.
@@Celeste_779 to be honest i think this is kind of the creator’s faults for putting themselves in situations that could be avoided with more professional relationships. Same with accepting work for free under such large scale projects.
I think I rolled my eyes through this whole video. This was basically half an hour of internet randoms accusing creators of making them feel "uncomfortable" or giving them "anxiety." It feels like Minecraft stans are just obsessed with these buzzwords as if it is the worst thing that could happen to them.
I feel like Minecraft stans are people who have so little problems in there lives that they force themselves to create problems or get offended by something
@@Deplorable-Dingo it’s celebrity obsession but it’s worse than normal celebs who all stick to themselves and only live in LA. RUclipsrs are a lot more grounded in reality than a A/B list celeb and this makes it even easier to attach to them. Also easier to stalk them. Thus when they do things their fandoms don’t like, it feels like a betrayal and everything about their life is out in the open or can easily be made that way. Normal celebs don’t put near as much out there and take precautions against that kind of stuff.
You know when you’re a kid, your parents taking away your phone was just the most “life ruining” thing ever? These accusers are undoubtedly a bunch of kids. As kids they have no real concept of what’s legitimately worth “being offended” over and what’s worth valuing in life. So in their young/ limited perspective, whatever some random ass MC YTer is doing is the most important thing in the world and whatever mildly controversial thing they do is a heinous crime.
@@luisalfonsocecilio7374 Working at a soup kitchen doesn't get you paid, creating free artwork doesn't get you paid, volunteering doesn't get you paid. Unless it was clearly stated that volunteers will be paid, then guess what. The volunteers won't be paid. You can't say "I volunteered to do yada yada for free" and expect to be rewarded. I could see if said volunteer were to backtrack on their word and proceed to ask for pay but even then it's not guaranteed.
Techno would've handled it like he always did. Not responding to it and just moving on. He knew who to interact with and who to be around. He was just someone who enjoyed minecraft while having a competitive personality.
@@FROEZOENbad take. Sometimes the collabs can just be for exposure but a lot of the time these people do end up becoming friends because many are trying to have fun and streaming is a very social career.
@@bananabro1010 If you guys are social because you have the same business careers, then its most likely for the sake of connections. its the same with college. Just the reality of adult relationships.
Funny thing, there was supposed to be a discord got talent like almost 2yrs ago. There has been no updates in the chat for it. Every person in it has given up hope on it.
win-win. the union gets publicity and their name out there (especially with younger French people) and the unpaid admins potentially have their grievances addressed
All of these dramas have proven to me that no one on the internet is capable of telling the whole truth. There are always a few embellishments here and there that put the entire narrative into question when discovered, even if said narrative is mostly true. It makes sorting out the situation as a bystander frustrating and harms victims that actually tell the truth because the public is now trained to immediately be skeptical of their story.
i feel its because its so easy to just tell half-truths to get what you want due to the anonymity the internet provides (lack body language facial expression etc.)
I feel like, on top of those "embellishments", we can't express EVERYTHING that is in our head, no matter how good one might be at communicating. So each person on the planet makes their own assumptions and it will never be crystal clear what is actually happening or how someone is actually feeling. Especially in "drama" situations where everything is told and thought about and then retold... To this, you can add the possibility that some could have used technology to lie or create fake news/proof, which raises the reasons to be suspicious of someone… And with that, sometimes, there are good reasons not to tell everything, -mostly because no one should feel obligated to explain their own privacy, simply for random people on the internet (seriously, these people need to learn to accept that not everything is under their control, if anything, nothing is and it will hurt them and their beloved creators, if they keep getting worried to the point that they would want to invade someone’s rightful privacy)- but saying nothing also will never prove us that the reason is good, so there will always be suspicious people. If we could all just let the people who are actually involved in their own problems, deal with it by themselves with the help that THEY asked for, we would be much less disappointed and people would continue to grow instead of getting canceled everywhere. I’m not trying to apologize for anyone, or take anyone’s defenses, this is just an observation that I made during my life. I don’t like, and I know that I am not the only one to think this, having to “check if the creator is alright” or “if I can continue consuming their content” I actually hate that. The lesser I know the better I live. I wish it were that easy. I am grateful for people who are supporting victims, spreading awareness, wanting to change things.. that’s cool let’s keep doing that. But I don’t like that people invade other’s privacy and look for answers they didn’t get when the two or more party already said their speech and that the rest is, in the worse case, the law’s responsibility, and definitely not the follower’s. -random people who just want to consume good content- It always makes things worse. And that's without accounting for the overly paranoid people who are so sure of what they are seeing but don’t realise that it’s all happening in their brain. So many biases can make everything pointlessly overly complex, when somethings shouldn’t even have been mentioned from the first place. Anyways those are my thoughts, I had to let that out it seems, please don’t feel obligated to read it all x) Good day everyone !
I miss the days of just watching Jaiden and Roier care for sweet Bobby. It felt so wholesome and genuine back then as someone who didn’t keep up with the “big minecraft names” of the QSMP
I miss the Quackity that would do raids, cooking challenges and the photoshop contests. His newer content isn’t bad, it’s get a good chuckle out of me every once in a while, but it’s not the same as the old stuff.
i totally agree, i miss it sm and i miss when he was friends with aksel, hoover, wildspartanz, etc. im glad he is happy with what he's doing now, but sometimes i still hope for things to go back like they were.
In fairness it comes with the territory of massive kid-friendly games in an online space. Obviously its a problem, but it's not a minecraft specific problem. It's just that if something is hugely popular and also something kids are easily able to access, eventually some of the bad crap will include grooming.
damn, in france there was a drama with qsmp but it’s so weird how no one talks about it. Every French streamers left the server once they learned that the moderators and people playing the ‘eggs’ were wayyy underpaid for their work or not paid at all, they were here for passion but got exploited to the core doing tens of hours in a row every day especially during server events, and at ungodly hours because it’s not adapted at all to european timezones. And the only french moderator left (because the other ones left the boat, but that means that ONE person was doing everything) got fired because they talked to the person playing the french egg, after all their unpaid dedication, they got the boot for talking to another person who’s not even a streamer. So that drama light a fire in France which caused everyone to hate or at least get real mixed feelings towards qsmp
en vrai j'avais pas trop suivi à ce moment là, j'ai juste vu un tweet de Antoine Daniel là dessus et un extrait de stream, j'étais même pas au courant que yavait un drama. Mais dès que j'ai entendu antoine en parler j'ai vu des redflags. Je considère antoine assez éduqué et mature en terme de comment se comporter sur internet et sa réaction au drama m'a fait comprendre que qsmp c'était fini mdr jsuis juste triste pour baghera et etoile qui avait l'air super impliqués
@@munbrazeh6700 bah Antoine a fait le porte parole même si l’initiateur de la désolidarisation francophone était Aypierre, Antoine a quand même les bras plus longs avec toutes les chaines youtube qui diffusent ses clips. Moi pareil, j’estime aussi que malgré son personnage il a quand même une bonne boussole de morale. Baghera a suivi direct aussi même si elle en parlait pas à l’époque car malgré le fait qu’elle n’aie pas le même impacte que ses compères elle se retrouve toujours injustement sous le feu des haters, et je trouve ça triste, mais récemment elle a enfin adressé le sujet qui commençait à lui peser sur le cœur. Je pense qu’on peut retrouver des clips sur youtube de ce moment. Étoiles n’en a pas parlé à ma connaissance, je pense pas le connaître assez bien pour connaître la réaction qu’il aurait eu, mais du peu que j’ai vu il relativise assez vite, du genre à être déçu mais passer vite à autre chose en se disant qu’il perdra pas pour autant le contact avec les autres streamers Brésiliens et Espagnols du serveur
@@KalengaTONK What I couldn’t believe is that none of the other streamers even reacted to what was learnt about the treatment of their moderation. I bet it wasn’t only the french moderation that got played and yet no one talks about it.
I will never understand how Minecraft breeds such insane drama, and I don't just mean regarding streamers and youtubers. Literally every server I've been a part of since 2010 has devolved into absurd friendship-ending drama.
I TNT'd my friends base 8 years ago. He and I were around 28 at the time. He hasnt spoken to me since. We had been friends since we were teenagers. Cause a massive rift between our friend group
okay I'm french and I watched QSMP from the french side and one joke was that Kameto only came for like 1 time and never came back, so choosing him as a french representative on QSMP is unfortunate when there were much more active and important french streamers like Aypierre or Baghera. But it's understandable when we take the fact that he's very popular, I guess
@@TheAltarios91 rien était inscrit dans le marbre, il n'était vraiment pas sûr de si il reviendrait ou pas. Ça n'a juste pas accroché au début, alors il n'est juste pas revenu. Il faut pas plus creuser que ça je pense, c'est normal que les streamers fassent plus de contenu sur ce qu'ils aiment, et qu'ils soient moins enclins à continuer de faire un contenu qui ne les as pas touché dès le début
Quackity's Merch company is so bad that some people are just now getting their orders/refunds from his DSMP Las Navadas stream almost 2 years ago! Its a running joke in his community to flip a coin if you order from him cuz you may never receive it.
@@barritoothy People do care, it's just that the things with Wilbur and Forever happening in rapid succession to one another (not even mentioning the egg admins not being paid properly thing) kind of tainted it for lots of people
yeah, glad theres a qsmp fan here because there a lot of fake fans who dropped in, said bad thing about QSMP because of this video and leave. QSMP isnt a bad project as a whole! But there should be things to considered.
The minecraft kids need to be controlled bro. Quackity didnt do anything and they are treating him as if he was the one talking to underaged girls. Like bro quackity didnt do anything to deserve the hate and the death threats, its not that serious.
Ik he didn't manage it well and the displinary actions were not taken in the correct manner. But he is getting so much HATE when the other guy is the one actually talking to lil girls. That's what I'm trying to say above
Having a French workers union getting involved was not on my bingo card for a Turkey Tom video but it is certainly the frenchest thing a french person could every do
Swear to god bro after Techno died, the Ancient Spirits of Light and Dark were released into the mc community, turning everyone into hardmode variants.
If you’re feeling overworked helping a Minecraft server why not quit it, it’s not like that’s an actual career like these people think they’re trapped in a goddamn pit
is shameful to leave a project where you've lost not only money but also friends, like damn. all for nothing? I don't think so, Quackity probably feels obligated to finish it even if it's no longer beneficial for him lol
@@starlightm_1593it’s a Minecraft server, not much financials going into it and if ur “friends” ditch u for stopping something clearly harming you then drop them, those aren’t friends
Yeah i feel like techno would be disappointed in his friends if he saw them now i feel like he wouldve resolved the issues with dream and the others easily.
As someone whose only experience with minecraft SMPs is hermitcraft, feels like I coincidentally landed on a single block of water when everything else is netherrack and lava.
Hermitcraft just sweeps their drama under the rug. TFC was homophobic, Tango stole builds, Ren and Doc quietly continued to work with FX Pr0cess who tricked Helga Rakel into installing a discord token logger to monitor her DMs.
@@jamien7049 I stand corrected I guess, but to my defense I only watched from Grian's PoV, these names don't show up nearly as often from his perspective.
Let me fix it for you; Dream: Accused of grooming, beat the allegations, innocent. George: Accused of grooming, beat the allegations, innocent. Wilbur: Actually terrible person, abuser and manipulative. Quackity: Irresponsible, uncaring and allows all types of illegal activity under his business' name, then says he is trying to do the exact opposite
@@tilkilit i genuinely just don't think quackity could have possibly predicted how crazy everything would get with his stans. this last like year or so has been so god damn violent with these people. actual mental patients on twitter typing this shit out. putting trackers on cars, threatening assassins, are we in fucking john wick?
@@tilkilitWell for one they were mostly the volunteers complaining about how there not laid when they are "volunteers" and I didn't pay much attention to the video never saw anything other than maybe the grooming to go under his name which he had not know about as far as I know
Just saying, if you're going to make a video about the controversies in a multilingual server, then you should cover everything that happened in every community. The French and the Brazilians faced heavy xenophobic comments from the very start of their involvement in the server. Baghera, a french creator, was bullied off the QSMP elections event by the fan base, people of multiple languages. ForeverPlayer was the first big controversy of the server, when it came out that he had had inappropriate interactions with minor fans in his past, and was then kicked out of the server, but not before his entire family got doxxed and sent death threats to. New fans came across Cellbit's controversy with his ex (whole other can of worms, which was actually not involved with Minecraft) and started attacking him and his girlfriend. Everything got so extreme that he had to finally speak up, 7 years after everything had happened, and posted a PDF containing extreme sensitive information to defend himself. He also was forced to come out as asexual for that same reason. Nearing the carnaval event, the Brazilian fan base shared complaints about it being scheduled at a time when most of the Brazilians creators wouldn't be able to attend. This prompted a wave of hate and xenophobic comments, people throwing slurs and calling them ungrateful, and multiple people attacked were driven to deactivate their accounts. Accounts that attempted to shine a light on the situation received hateful DMs as well, and Quackity's stream addressing the situation only sparked his community to be more hateful.
I hate how easy it is to make a video that glosses over almost everything bad that quackity has actually done by having his 'ignore all controversy' mentality, he's just getting what he deserves after nurishing such a pathetic and parasocial community
@@Zealeys While I think Quackity meant well when creating the QSMP, I can't deny that the way he went around things definetely wasn't ideal, especially for someone who was the face of the project at the time. I mean, it's a bit difficult to create a community that's supposed to be diverse and share different cultures when your own followers are used to going on raids and trolling, and all they get to "correct" that is a slap on the wrist.
is it me, or only the hispanic part of the qsmp didnt get a heavy polemic? or maybe im just ignorant, but, like, even the french and the brazilian were involved in some kind of drama. we hispanics are more chill in that aspect xd
Honestly I’d say the allegations and hate towards the minecraft RUclipsrs as a whole are wild. I’ve never seen any other group of RUclipsrs in this much scrutiny.
Everyone knows that when you feel uncomfortable talking to someone you should ruin their reputation and spread false allegations instead of trying to talking it out with that person!
I still really like the QSMP, and the idea of the project altogether :] Ive gotten to know of so many new creators and them being able to comfortably speak their native language and still chat with eachother is really cool. My biggest applause to the Behind the Curtain modelers, coders, npcs, and admins for all they endless work theyve continuously put in. I look forward to what this project will do next and the many communities theyve yet to introduce (really excited for Filipino rep). It hasnt been a perfect run, but i dont think we should give up on everything because its been difficult. I understand Quackity taking the steps to allow people more qualified to manage Quackity Studios. Dude is 23, never owned a business, never run a server, and is working with many different countries with their own laws and policies. The other stuff? Very unfortunate, but such is life. We dont know any of these people no matter how many hours we tune in to their block adventures, so when allegations or controversies come up we should try to look at the evidence objectively and not set everything on fire as soon as a post is made. But my experience, while pleasant and quite fun, cannot be applied to everyone in the fandom, unfortunately. Much apologies to the foreign communities facing harrassment over cultural difference, something the QSMP was made to help dissolve.
It’s not an excuse for workers feeling like they are not being paid well enough , but this sounds like a case of a guy being in over his head and being disorganized rather than malicious mistreatment.
I wish I could view it as that, but the fact that he never even once tried to actually fix the issue makes it real hard for me to do so. The guy had every opportunity to fix the issue as every single volunteer that was wronged and the French union wanted the Qsmp to continue. Quackity simply never responded. If he truly did feel bad about his employees, then he’d try to fix the issues when the opportunity arises, rather than letting everyone forget about the problems.
Don't lump em all in there are still amazing RUclipsrs left like grian mumbo and the hermitcraft group and the new lifesteal smp those guys are chill and make amazing content
Mc youtubers in my country used to do that but then the qsmp came along and everybody started acting like idiots (Literally how tha hell my brazillian youtubers just shifted over night to be this shitshow)
11:10 I can’t bro, “several volunteers spoke out about the working conditions of the server.” Dawg it’s a volunteer position, you give as much time as you want.
that's the whole issue here. They were free labor but treated worse than some employees. This company took advantages of fans with barely to no working experience.
@@PainterVierax thats not on the company when the participants have the choice to leave or not. there's no obligation on either side which is why it's stupid for people to make false accusations and dramatize the conditions. when you are the person who defines what conditions you work in, you cannot pin the blame on someone else.
@@panibreaddd do you realize they were fans of the project and put it above their own wellness, right? And the fact they were mainly chosen because of that? Do you understand the relationship abuse they got into? It's more or less like a cult instead of a usual company. That's precisely why in many jurisdictions volunteering is forbidden outside of non-profit associations.
They used to be, theyre old dsmp fans who think theyre better than dream stans bc theyre q stans, but to outsiders its obvious theyre literally exactly the same lol
@@sugarcanewt most likely he's being supportive of the LGBTQ community really doesn't indicate anything towards him being bisexual. Sure, in most of the SMP's he's been in he acts remotely gay towards his friends as a joke but who doesn't
Well then he did a sh*t job at it. Even if you don’t want to be friends with someone anymore, you should at least speak up about your fans literally doxxing him, sending him death threats, swatting him and his family, and actually showing up to his own and his family’s house. If he wanted to cut them off to get rid of drama, then he did the worst job I’ve ever seen at doing so.
@@treehouseoffun1242 And when his unhinged fans did the same thing to him he calls it too far lmao, but when it's other people getting attacked by his fans he goes around and praises them.
@@hokagab You do know the fans that do that would not listen to Quackity even if he said something right. I hate people asking creator to treat their audience as a child and scold them and stuff, he has millions of fans, there's always gonna be sketchy people that in a lot of hispanics streamers point of view they do not belong to the community. When he praises his fans its never directed to those skecthy people. Its really stupid t request someone to scold fans as if that will make those toxic people listen, NO, those people are like that and will not change even if their idol tells them to stop
@@elizar2534 Here’s the thing, you can mitigate the damage caused by it however. Dream and his family went through hell and could’ve been hurt or died, which probably could’ve been mitigated if Quackity simply told them that he disapproves of this. Dream himself has shown that you can help people going through things like this because he helped Tommy and his family went they went through a similar situation. There are so many things Quackity could’ve done and he just shut up and acted like nothing was happening. Also, if your fans are harassing someone horrifically, you shouldn’t be praising them period. Whether his intention was to praise the horrible pat of his fans or not, he still shouldn’t have done that. Praising your fans is probably only going to worsen the situation.
i remember watching quackity from the toontown days and to when he did roblox stuff, the raids were so fun to watch and I miss him and aksel’s friendship
The weird thing is, I distinctly remember Quackity claimed he was leaving content creation to pursue a legal career after graduating university. Then a year later he's making a Minecraft SMP that he's allegedly putting all of his time and money into, basically trying to catch smoke in a bottle and artificially replicate the Dream SMP in a fraction of the time and with exponentially more monetization. Then a year after THAT, it turns out he's in so far over his head that he's now at risk of being sued for defrauding customers and violating international labor and customs laws. It definitely feels like he was trying to do a blatant cash grab without really understanding why people were so engaged with the project he was attempting to replicate. You could sort of see this in the day following his announcement, as he was going into random minecraft streamers' chats and throwing money at them to try and pressure them into joining his server with pretty mixed results.
Tbh I wouldn't be _that_ surprised if it was a cashgrab, but I don't think this is just him looking for more money. Some part of this is definitely out of passion because if he wanted more money, the easiest thing he could have done is stick with the Dream Team and keep making content with them, then pull the "I didn't know :[[ I'm a college student guys I'm too busy" stunt if it bites him in the ass later
@@seafoam8845 A few issues I see: 1.) He was set to start actually working in the legal field in 2023, even announcing he was leaving MCYT and severely cutting back on his content to focus on his career off-platform. 2.) One thing a lot of QSMP stans try to hide is the fact that Quackity didn't have a full list of streamers ready when Dream made his announcement. If this was actually a passion project, I really doubt he would've waited until after someone else announced a similar project to start looking for people. 3.) From what I've heard from the former admins, Q grabbed the live translation mod on Curseforge as a bandaid fix to compete with Dream having his own in-house translation mod. This has me wondering if QSMP was actually just going to be a spanish/english speaking server like he played on before, and USMP had him freaking out that the more diverse member list would've dwarfed QSMP's relevance.
miss how quackity was in his older vids with his og friend group. once he separated from them and began Minecraft with dream and whoever else he became unbearable to watch. he used to be so funny, that minecraft group seriously ruined him. its obvious he left his friends for money
Is it just me or does it feel like QSMP is super irrelevant compared to any other content he's done. Most of the videos on it are barely able to hit 100k views. Doesn't sound like a good investment to continue and there's so much maintenance for it :/
Eh it’s probably more about Twitch streams and views. The server was getting hella engagement from multiple language communities at its peak. It’s very much not profitable tho with the cost of the language translations. At this point it does lean closer to “passion project” than anything designed to make money. More like a money sink, but one with a pretty admirable goal of uniting communities and languages. Unfortunately that lack of money came at the price of workers.
It kinda depends, because I can tell he made this project with just the pure love of wanting to unite languages across the globe as an inmigrant without expecting anything in exchange but it also did have a huge impact in latin american countries. It literally made a bunch of other content creators lowkey beg to be added to the project too and I saw cosplays and art of the characters EVERYWHERE. I think it could have been highly profitable but the people inside it didn't know where to put the actual money.
probably irrelevant to quackity but its really popular with other streamers. The reason why its so irrelevant is that he just drops in every few months. I forgot he was the owner of the server.
You gotta give it to Quackity, he ATTEMPTED to do what Dream does and any other minecrafter does. Unfortunately the minecraft grown ass adult fans are as broken as the League ones. And unfortunately not only he let other people manage it so he can just earn, it's like leaving a group of rabid chimps with knives in a room and expecting them to peel potatoes. Just to come back and see all bloody on the floor with 0 peeled potatoes wondering what happened. Quackity needs to sit his lardass and do work, or just quit. There will be no more Kwebbelkop's.
Yeah I always knew it was incredibly stupid of him to not be involved in the behind the scenes. You own the server, this is your PASSION project, why would you not be involved in the behind the scenes to make sure this project goes well??????
@@OfficialEdwardNewgate It was because he wanted to be a player and not know lore stuff. And honestly for me it seems like making a movie for example, the creator of a movie sometimes will not be involved in the process or what goes behind the scenes even tho he's the creator, obviously he should have been involved, but he efed up, he's taking accountability and fixing it the way it needs to be. And honestly its his first project, he's bound to making mistakes, and he did big time, but he's fixing it
@@elizar2534 even movie creators... know about their projects statuses, news, behind the scenes and how it's going. You don't actually finance a project, which was your own idea btw, and let it get built without knowing if the people building it aren't using spatulas instead of hammers. It doesn't work like that. Quackity wanted to earn, that's the bottom line, if he really cared about the idea he would of known at the very least how it was going, which he didn't bother to find out until the backlash happened, prior to it there was quite the time lapse for him to AT LEAST get a memo, a sticky note or something but nah. As if this "idea passion project" is just a facade to earn at the end of the day. Which it is.
@@Max-ej4oh He doesn't even earn anything from the server wdym, he actually loses a lot from it. Like i said, its his first big project, he's bond to making mistakes wich he did big time i'm not denying that and i hold him accountable, but he is fixing it how it should be, not by making twitter threads or anouncing things in twitch when it is always adviced by lawyers not to say anything when legal stuff is behind, and its great he is taking responsibility for his mistake. But people really have becoming so vengative and raged with human mistakes its like nobody can make mistakes anymore (obviously situations like wilbur's don't count because he himself did it for so long and knew he caused pain with no remorse).
@majorfender6054 Sunny has had some really bad takes with his videos. To add insult to injury he ALWAYS makes sure they are atleast 10 minutes long to hit that engagement requirement.
Well... the video failed to show dozens of workers, paid or not, that came out talking about their experience that corroborates one another. Actors, lore writers, people from most twitter accounts, programmers etc etc etc. There's a lot of people who came out with their experiences after Lea. I saw a comment here that "people dont respect quackity's personal life and therefore he's shady", like, no? it's because of what a lot of his workers said, y'know? No one gatting paid enough - if even. The Egg actors worked almost 24/7, the french Egg was online most of the day, everyday, writing lore and translating things for twitter. Did she get paid? Well... she didnt, as she said. So yeah, if this isnt shady, oh boy........... I'm from Brazil, I saw everything happening in our comunity too... Xenophobia, death threats, telling them to kys and so on and so on. Basically what happened to Dream, I guess, I saw a lot of similiar things. And I know it happened to the french speaking comunity too. All from the spanish speaking community, I guess, I dont want to point fingers buuuuuuuuuut..........
the eggs were never forced to be 24/7 on the server, like Richas who explicitly said he stayed bc he wanted to, Pomme was the same, their job was not to be on the server all the time, also unless ur programming i dont see how playing mc should be paid minimum wage💀 Most of the jobs were voluntary and about the community, why would y'all listen to randoms on twt? there's weirdos all over twt and the block button is right there, theres a lot of xenophobic ppl from all communities and the logic thing is ignore stupid ppl on the internet, its like the first rule here?
@@mikyo9722 Some were hired as volunteers, promised pay, and then given ridiculous amounts of overtime work only to be terminated. Others were given small amounts of pay with the promise of higher pay and then higher pay never being negotiated
@@isolated_bunny foi minha primeira vez num fandom e me surpreendeu muito esse comportamento. Não foi comigo porque eu não postava nada, só acompanhava de longe. E dava pra ver que tinha um padrão sabe? Complicado. É uma pena porque o projeto era bem legal, os ccs se gostavam muito, e a comunidade tendo uma parcela podre assim.
shut uuuup with the « no one was forced to stay 24/7 ». The admins were being pressured by higher staff, just because Rychas said that he wasn’t force doesn’t invalidate all the other testimonies from other eggs admins saying that they would be replaced if they didn’t come as often.
Honestly, none of this surprises me; I participated in one of his videos 2 years ago. The video was a roleplay contest and he said at the very end of all the recording the winner from a poll on who gave the best skit/performance would win money. Slimecicle and Schlatt were there too (but they were not aware that there was even going to be a prize; Schlatt made that much apparent). I participated because I wanted to appear in one of his videos and nothing more. It was good fun, but he never payed out. We kept asking him and one of his discord peeps (back then I believe he was called wheatabix, now its terrile the tortoise) on when we could expect to see the money but nothing. Everyone has kinda given up and it soured the experience a little bit. Either way, I 100% believe that those accusing him of taking advantage of free labor for content or fabricating giveaways for clout are right.
Gosh these Minecraft RUclipsrs are so embarrassing. I get Quackity, Dream, and Tommy are all still fairly young and immature, but they operate like they’re in high school. The way everyone handled the QSMP/USMP drama was pathetic. This was something that obviously should’ve been talked about between the two… Not ignored, not aired out, and not having anybody deciding to insert themselves into the drama.
Agreed. However, I feel like both Dream and Quackity's fanbases are so irreversibly toxic that they wouldn't be able to coexist without comparing the two servers and subsequently starting a war lmao. Either way, Dream and Quackity should have just talked about it like adults instead of posting threads and ghosting. The imput from all the other creators was so childish and hard to watch 💀💀
@@llamaniaman4002 Oh, 100%! The two projects were always going to be in competition with each other, that was unfortunately unavoidable. And I feel the exact same way. A simple mature conversation between the two could’ve easily caused a positive resolution. I don’t know these people, but I genuinely don’t believe the two projects being so similar was due to malicious intent, and it was probably just a crazy coincidence. ‘Childish’ is the perfect word to summarise the way people handled this though.
@@llamaniaman4002Agree. To my understanding though, I think Dream stated that he tried to contact Quackity privately but never received any replies. That’s why Dream aired all of that publicly. But imo even though he probably thought that was the only way to stop the whole doxxing wars going on in the community it only made it worse.
@@shimaphys I'm 22, and I think that it has to do with the way people are being raised more and more online. Additionally, impulsivity is way more common and hurtful than people think lol
I haven't checked in on Quackity since my senior year of high school, when he was raiding AnimalJam. 😂 This has been a wild catch-up, but very informative. Great video!
The problem is that keeping things private is completely different to keeping everything in the dark. In a time where questions and controversy are high, the last thing you wanna do is stay quiet. People want answers, and refusing to give them that just means they're gonna start making their own answers, which tend to be even worse than the truth. Being quiet just makes you appear guilty, you *need* to have transparency over such a severe topic as grooming minors.
@jellyfish668 Because if he doesn't, the public will destroy him. It's not fair, but it's the price you pay for being a public figure who actively promotes a public work.
actually, i don't think he kept everything in the dark, he made a few streams in spanish explaining that he literally can't speak about what's going on behind doors for LEGAL reasons and because everything the team sent on the discord server was being leaked on twitter. a lot of french and brazilians even said he only made those streams in his native language because he was "hiding" things and didn't want people who don't speak spanish to find out.
As someone who grew up watching Spanish speaking creators, and then eventually switching to English speaking communities, a project like the QSMP had always been a dream of mine to see someday. When I first heard about it, I thought it was one of the coolest things I had ever seen come from the internet, so it is extremely sad to see the amount of drama and issues that have come out of it.
Yeah, live translation is not a novel concept. You can really thank the development teams who made that possible by creating the actual machine translation models, servers to host them on, and APIs to connect them with apps such as minecraft mods or whatever
So basically, his fanbase turned on him because of things.....that weren't him? He handled it really well all things considered, I feel really bad for him.
Technically, at least for some parts. He wasn’t the one who made people have bad experiences while they were working, except for the fact that the lore writers needed to constantly change the lore because he made lore decisions on stream without telling anyone and the time he made the people who worked on the prison event completely rewrite it the day before the event, but he still had issues, like him seemingly not paying the workers even after saying he would, apparently letting his groomer brother work on the Qsmp, the situation with dream, the fact that he ignored the French union’s attempts at contacting him, and some other issues I’ve probably forgotten. The guy sucked as a boss and ceo.
Legally they have to be called "Allegations" otherwise Turkey Tom could be actually sued for Defamation. That's why you hear RUclipsrs say "Allegations". Innocent until proven guilty.
Am I the only one who just remembers Quackity as a YTP/Meme channel in like 2015/16 and hasn't heard of him since? Crazy how this guy went from that to a Minecraft youtuber with millions of subscribers.
Id argue that there is some level of difference between a fast upload schedule and a content farm, to me it feels like the quality of the videos has stayed fairly consistent even if his uploads are quicker. But thats just my two cents.
@@thefinalgrimswald354Content farms don't have to be obviously low effort. Illuminaughtis videos looked high quality for instance unless if you know the topic wwll, then you know it is all stolen and poorly researched . If you produce long videos quickly you either need a production team at which point it hardly even is your video anymore or you have to cut corners. Most notably quality of research since people don't notice that as much.
Why do minecraft players always have to argue and care about something like this it is like some random youtuber is the biggest part of their life. At this point people are making a big deal about the smallest things just for clickbait
I love how the entire idea of the server was to bring people together despite language barriers...and yet two people who speak the same language started to drift apart because of who wanted credit for the idea
@@treehouseoffun1242 Both parties have people that are violent and annoying as hell. Trust me, Minecraft Twitter is hostile for everyone. There will always be the loud minority group who will make everyone else look insane. I doubt anything these streamers say would’ve helped too. It might be admirable to tell people to stay chill, but clearly it doesn’t work after a certain point. Either way, even Dream says he shouldn’t have brought Quackity not speaking to him to the public in that mega post. It 100% added fuel to the fire and created a bigger situation. Both groups of fans just need a damn restraining order against each other and to stop making posts about how they want the other creator to suffer and die.
@@_indigo_inked At the same time, it probably would’ve helped if Quackity responded to dream instead of simply having him go through that hell and simply have him wait it out and hope nobody kills or arrests him. The whole conflict would’ve been resolved, or at least very mitigated, if Quackity simply responded.
@@treehouseoffun1242 No? I’m sorry but no one is owed a response on discord. If you don’t want to talk to someone that is your right. You’re not a bad person for ceasing communications. Also, we don’t have context for why they stopped talking in the first place. Maybe something happened and it made Quackity uncomfortable with talking to Dream? We have zero clue about their relationship and I don’t think anyone /has/ to talk to someone. If you think you have to talk to someone at the risk of them dropping all the info on your conversations on Twitter, that sucks. Sounds stressful for no reason. We gotta admit it’s weird behavior to have a personal conflict, then make a mega thread about it to a ton of people that you know can become hostile. That’s how you make a flame burn brighter.
Tbh as someone who’s not from France, if the French government started trying to get me to stop doing something I’d ignore the shit out of them too. I’m not going there and I’m not gonna get extradited over differences between American and French labor laws so why would I respond in any way
This whole drama just screams WHO FUCKING CARES (A lot of people apparently but the most unimportant happening in the internet, why can’t people box each other anymore? Smh)
yeah i mean i side with quackity just because he like to keep his PRIVATE life private makes him a bad guy like yes there are valad points but most of them dont even link to quackity himself mostly just his brother why are people acting like he is his brother (btw i dont activly watch quackity and my opinion is based on what i could find)
@@trasheistgaming2853 The issue is that Quackity allowed his brother, who is a groomer, to work on the Qsmp with minors. He didn’t even bother to get rid of his scummy sibling from his discord, where his brother groomed minors, until months later.
I just watch hermitcraft now. After technoblade died i stepped away from that whole dream affiliated crew. Too many stans and people being butthurt over things that dont matter
Regardless of all the drama surrounding the end of the series, it's undeniable the impact that Quackity and QSMP have had on the content creation community itself. As a Brazilian myself, I learned English and Spanish because of QSMP, and I really enjoy Quackity's content. He always seemed the most honest and laid-back among all the former participants of DSMP, and I hope he overcomes these difficulties and continues making his bilingual content.
I hope he learns from this situation. He has a bad habit of getting into horrible situations and simply letting them die off. I hope he learns that isn’t an option and he needs to take action.
I geniunely dont understand why people need to get mad at quackity for what his or his friends' fans are doing. He had said time and time again to not be hateful towards others, etc. He cant control what millions of people do. Not to mention how stupid it is to get mad over quackity not being friends with or interacting with certain creators. If he doesnt wanna interact then be it, no one can force him to be friends with other creators. Its also HIS smp so he gets to decide who stays and who doesnt. If everyones uncomftorable with someone its rather obvious they cant be forced to interact with someone that makes them uncomfortable. Quackity is also not in any shape or form responsible for whatever the other creators do.
I just dont understand how a simple, stressfree game about building with blocks has such a toxic fanbase
Yeah it’s also weird how Quackity always gets betrayed, like that one dude Wilbur Soot, the guy Quackity had romantic feelings for
its one of *the* most sold, most widely available games *ever*. you’re gonna get some bad apples eventually
no its all the parasocial streamers
Welcome to the Internet.
"Diversity is strength". Most people on the internet can't handle the confrontation of differences.
Everything else aside, it really does bother me that Quackity trying to keep his private life private makes him "shady". It's ridiculous, and really revealing of a culture obsessed with celebrities, that people feel entitled to the personal details of an entertainment figure's life. Once you share too much of yourself, you can't take it back.
i agree, why wanting to have a private life turns you into shady? the only reason to think that way is having a huge parasocila relationship with him thinking they deserve all the info of his life
If your brother is a groomer and you're making videos for children, he should be responding to the allegations. Definitely shady and weird that he isn't.
@@Walkthroughman9akaJack That's his brother's problem, not his. Tf he gotta answer for?
@@Walkthroughman9akaJackyou’re a weirdo bro
@@Walkthroughman9akaJack How is Quackity responsible for what his brother does? At the end of the day, he’s not the one responsible for said allegations - not to mention giving that sort of private information is teetering dangerously in terms of familial relations. Besides, what good would Quackity’s word do here? Brother or not, they’re still grown men who can speak for themselves.
Demanding someone explain their personal family issues on the internet is entitled and parasocial as all hell. Leave the man be, it’s really not that difficult.
I'm happy I dropped everything from this community when Techno passed away. Rest in peace king.
I did too. I’m glad I did. Now it’s just an era I can look back on fondly.
Me too for me when Techno died everything went to shit
@@Kittiesftw y'all keep saying that like he had the whole mcyt community in his shoulders. these people had always been shitty, it was only a matter of time for them to be exposed.
@@venuzss this mf is right, mc jewtubers are doomed to fail because of their own hubris
@@venuzssreal bro
Bro its like after techno died some Evil spirit was unleashed that turned the whole MC comunity into monsters. Kinda happy he didn't see what his friends would become
EXACTLY WHAT I THOUGHT
The wall of F̶l̶e̶s̶h̶ pork
It’s not the whole MC community. There are kinda two halves to SMP Minecraft- those that swear and those that don’t, or alternatively “DSMP and friends” and “Hermitcraft and friends”. Basically all the problems have been on the DSMP side. Shubble was involved in the Wilbur stuff obviously but it wasn’t her coming under fire.
Give me exactly 3 likes
things were already going downhill even when he was still alive, it just got worse when he passed away
Literally how did Captain Sparklez manage to dodge all of these bullets? The man must be clairvoyant or something
Clearly not clairvoyant enough to dodge a bad marriage
@@lukestover2207 what are you talking about
when you are in the field for more than a decade you should be able to know when something will not work
The big difference is old mc youtubers were treated as normal people who were given a voice, while new mc youtubers are treated as hollywood celebrities
Actually this can be said for a lot of old youtubers, it was previously treated as a hobby, now it is a job. Now youtubers follow parasocial culture (especially in the minecraft and vtuber communities) in vtubers parasocial relationships are encouraged so the company behind whoever they are can make more money off donations (this is done by weird thumbnails or simply not discouraging unhealthy parasocial relationships like others have done)
@@lukestover2207 : me when im off my schizophrenia meds
It’s quackity’s team’s fault for hiring fans and accepting free artwork from kids in the first place. You can’t expect a professional environment when your both hiring fans and accepting free labour.
it wasnt kids, one of the requirements to work there was to be +18, they do act like kids tho lol
@@mikyo9722they do act like children
I think you're very right about the trouble being hiring fans. It might have worked out much better if they'd hired from the outside.
This is so sad. A few years ago I saw that vivziepop also got burned by hiring fans in the past and it's so sad to see this happening to quackity too.
@@Celeste_779 to be honest i think this is kind of the creator’s faults for putting themselves in situations that could be avoided with more professional relationships. Same with accepting work for free under such large scale projects.
I miss when Quackity was just a Toontown RUclipsr, and none of this existed
moufronn
same fr
I remember him from his Club Penguin Island Raids
yeah lowk when Quackity started making minecraft content I stopped watching him
bro and all the Habbo Hotel and CCLub Penguin bs
I think I rolled my eyes through this whole video. This was basically half an hour of internet randoms accusing creators of making them feel "uncomfortable" or giving them "anxiety." It feels like Minecraft stans are just obsessed with these buzzwords as if it is the worst thing that could happen to them.
It’s like watching a dumpster fire
Huh, almost like people who obsess over other people's lives are fuckin psychotic idiots
I feel like Minecraft stans are people who have so little problems in there lives that they force themselves to create problems or get offended by something
@@Deplorable-Dingo it’s celebrity obsession but it’s worse than normal celebs who all stick to themselves and only live in LA. RUclipsrs are a lot more grounded in reality than a A/B list celeb and this makes it even easier to attach to them. Also easier to stalk them. Thus when they do things their fandoms don’t like, it feels like a betrayal and everything about their life is out in the open or can easily be made that way. Normal celebs don’t put near as much out there and take precautions against that kind of stuff.
You know when you’re a kid, your parents taking away your phone was just the most “life ruining” thing ever? These accusers are undoubtedly a bunch of kids. As kids they have no real concept of what’s legitimately worth “being offended” over and what’s worth valuing in life. So in their young/ limited perspective, whatever some random ass MC YTer is doing is the most important thing in the world and whatever mildly controversial thing they do is a heinous crime.
"the volunteers aren't getting paid" thats the point bro, they're volunteers
Learn about what labor laws Quackity broke. It ain’t that hard to realize you aren’t supposed to support someone who is literally a criminal.
Labor laws says otherwise
@@luisalfonsocecilio7374 “
a person who freely offers to take part in an enterprise or undertake a task.”
@@luisalfonsocecilio7374 Working at a soup kitchen doesn't get you paid, creating free artwork doesn't get you paid, volunteering doesn't get you paid. Unless it was clearly stated that volunteers will be paid, then guess what. The volunteers won't be paid. You can't say "I volunteered to do yada yada for free" and expect to be rewarded. I could see if said volunteer were to backtrack on their word and proceed to ask for pay but even then it's not guaranteed.
@@luisalfonsocecilio7374 Absolutely not! :)
In a way I'm almost glad Technoblade never got to see what would become of his friends.
Not friends. Co-workers lol. None of these guys are actually friends in real life man
Techno would've handled it like he always did. Not responding to it and just moving on. He knew who to interact with and who to be around. He was just someone who enjoyed minecraft while having a competitive personality.
@@FROEZOENbad take. Sometimes the collabs can just be for exposure but a lot of the time these people do end up becoming friends because many are trying to have fun and streaming is a very social career.
@@bananabro1010 If you guys are social because you have the same business careers, then its most likely for the sake of connections. its the same with college. Just the reality of adult relationships.
@@redcoldedlava9937 Techno was friends with specifically Wilbur though. They would play Tf2 together privately.
i missed the time when quackity doing a discord got talent stuff, those shit were golden
frr
those were good, but *any game* SUCKS series was a diamond
fr I loved those videos
Indian scammer lols those were the days
Funny thing, there was supposed to be a discord got talent like almost 2yrs ago. There has been no updates in the chat for it. Every person in it has given up hope on it.
Imagine getting a worker’s union involved in discord moderation.
that's way more than that. Almost all the translation, community manager and creative work was done by unpaid workers.
@@PainterVierax I know but I felt like making a funny comment, sue me.
@@vitalitydoesstuff3603 the issue is there is so much Q stans in the comment it's hard to tell when it's sarcasm.
I won't sue you, my union will :-P
win-win. the union gets publicity and their name out there (especially with younger French people) and the unpaid admins potentially have their grievances addressed
@@PainterVieraxbeing a discord mod is not real work
I miss when quackity would paly roblox and shut down some disney ass game
I hated that time personally, I just found him annoying.
@@cadendicky1855 FR. people acting like wasn't always annoying, he just used to be annoying to people everyone hated so people liked him more
Paly
He was actually funny back then
i will never forgive quackity for getting the roblox forums shut down, that is literally the only reason i know who he is
How a good haircut became Tom's worst nightmare
Was NOT good
How Tom not shaving himself lead to downfall of his reputation
@Erucus as if we can't see that hack of a haircut in ur pfp 😂
Tom the type of guy to let a good haircut become his worst nightmare
How an argument over a music recital became a child's worst nightmare
All of these dramas have proven to me that no one on the internet is capable of telling the whole truth. There are always a few embellishments here and there that put the entire narrative into question when discovered, even if said narrative is mostly true. It makes sorting out the situation as a bystander frustrating and harms victims that actually tell the truth because the public is now trained to immediately be skeptical of their story.
This needs to be copy and pasted everywhere.
THIS
i feel its because its so easy to just tell half-truths to get what you want due to the anonymity the internet provides (lack body language facial expression etc.)
@@beanni7774 the new "don't make me touch the sign"
I feel like, on top of those "embellishments", we can't express EVERYTHING that is in our head, no matter how good one might be at communicating.
So each person on the planet makes their own assumptions and it will never be crystal clear what is actually happening or how someone is actually feeling.
Especially in "drama" situations where everything is told and thought about and then retold...
To this, you can add the possibility that some could have used technology to lie or create fake news/proof, which raises the reasons to be suspicious of someone…
And with that, sometimes, there are good reasons not to tell everything, -mostly because no one should feel obligated to explain their own privacy, simply for random people on the internet (seriously, these people need to learn to accept that not everything is under their control, if anything, nothing is and it will hurt them and their beloved creators, if they keep getting worried to the point that they would want to invade someone’s rightful privacy)- but saying nothing also will never prove us that the reason is good, so there will always be suspicious people.
If we could all just let the people who are actually involved in their own problems, deal with it by themselves with the help that THEY asked for, we would be much less disappointed and people would continue to grow instead of getting canceled everywhere.
I’m not trying to apologize for anyone, or take anyone’s defenses, this is just an observation that I made during my life.
I don’t like, and I know that I am not the only one to think this, having to “check if the creator is alright” or “if I can continue consuming their content”
I actually hate that.
The lesser I know the better I live.
I wish it were that easy.
I am grateful for people who are supporting victims, spreading awareness, wanting to change things.. that’s cool let’s keep doing that.
But I don’t like that people invade other’s privacy and look for answers they didn’t get when the two or more party already said their speech and that the rest is, in the worse case, the law’s responsibility, and definitely not the follower’s. -random people who just want to consume good content-
It always makes things worse.
And that's without accounting for the overly paranoid people who are so sure of what they are seeing but don’t realise that it’s all happening in their brain.
So many biases can make everything pointlessly overly complex, when somethings shouldn’t even have been mentioned from the first place.
Anyways those are my thoughts, I had to let that out it seems, please don’t feel obligated to read it all x)
Good day everyone !
Gotta love how most of the controversy came from Dream’s long ass thread that ended up being longer than his response to cheating.
Dream was the tail of the Prince Rupert's Drop
moufronn
To be fair his response to cheating, is longer but i get your point.
Why do people have to address cheating? He's a monecraft streamer
@@chipdiesel9788 I think they’re talking about when he cheated in a minecraft speedrun. But at the time he didn’t realize he cheated so
doing him dirty w that thumbnail art
He looks like a microwaved Marilyn Manson 💀
we matching pfps
he literally looks like that
He looks like you.
he looks like he wants to end it all
I miss the days of just watching Jaiden and Roier care for sweet Bobby. It felt so wholesome and genuine back then as someone who didn’t keep up with the “big minecraft names” of the QSMP
I miss when cellbit and roier were just getting married and the lore was genuinely sooo worth getting invested in T_T…
@@gatinhomessi what a time to be alive my guy. I miss it too
I miss 2023 qsmp where they had a somewhat good egg system and lore about funny bears and cute moments with eggs
i miss Gegg being the funniest guy ever and just chaos everywhere
I miss the Quackity that would do raids, cooking challenges and the photoshop contests. His newer content isn’t bad, it’s get a good chuckle out of me every once in a while, but it’s not the same as the old stuff.
I really hope that now moving forward this would make him have a new start, and move from minecraft
i totally agree, i miss it sm and i miss when he was friends with aksel, hoover, wildspartanz, etc. im glad he is happy with what he's doing now, but sometimes i still hope for things to go back like they were.
Don't forget FPS diesel
We’ve grown up and so has quacking, it would never be the same
@@DamonPot me too, maybe one day things will change
A minecraft youtube drama with grooming allegations?
Its almost as normal as Cereal with milk.
In fairness it comes with the territory of massive kid-friendly games in an online space. Obviously its a problem, but it's not a minecraft specific problem. It's just that if something is hugely popular and also something kids are easily able to access, eventually some of the bad crap will include grooming.
@@Ventorathcompletely agree!!
And it wasn't even quackity that did the grooming it was his Lil brother
damn, in france there was a drama with qsmp but it’s so weird how no one talks about it. Every French streamers left the server once they learned that the moderators and people playing the ‘eggs’ were wayyy underpaid for their work or not paid at all, they were here for passion but got exploited to the core doing tens of hours in a row every day especially during server events, and at ungodly hours because it’s not adapted at all to european timezones. And the only french moderator left (because the other ones left the boat, but that means that ONE person was doing everything) got fired because they talked to the person playing the french egg, after all their unpaid dedication, they got the boot for talking to another person who’s not even a streamer. So that drama light a fire in France which caused everyone to hate or at least get real mixed feelings towards qsmp
en vrai j'avais pas trop suivi à ce moment là, j'ai juste vu un tweet de Antoine Daniel là dessus et un extrait de stream, j'étais même pas au courant que yavait un drama. Mais dès que j'ai entendu antoine en parler j'ai vu des redflags. Je considère antoine assez éduqué et mature en terme de comment se comporter sur internet et sa réaction au drama m'a fait comprendre que qsmp c'était fini mdr jsuis juste triste pour baghera et etoile qui avait l'air super impliqués
@@munbrazeh6700 bah Antoine a fait le porte parole même si l’initiateur de la désolidarisation francophone était Aypierre, Antoine a quand même les bras plus longs avec toutes les chaines youtube qui diffusent ses clips. Moi pareil, j’estime aussi que malgré son personnage il a quand même une bonne boussole de morale.
Baghera a suivi direct aussi même si elle en parlait pas à l’époque car malgré le fait qu’elle n’aie pas le même impacte que ses compères elle se retrouve toujours injustement sous le feu des haters, et je trouve ça triste, mais récemment elle a enfin adressé le sujet qui commençait à lui peser sur le cœur. Je pense qu’on peut retrouver des clips sur youtube de ce moment.
Étoiles n’en a pas parlé à ma connaissance, je pense pas le connaître assez bien pour connaître la réaction qu’il aurait eu, mais du peu que j’ai vu il relativise assez vite, du genre à être déçu mais passer vite à autre chose en se disant qu’il perdra pas pour autant le contact avec les autres streamers Brésiliens et Espagnols du serveur
That is so french I can't believe😅
@@KalengaTONK What I couldn’t believe is that none of the other streamers even reacted to what was learnt about the treatment of their moderation. I bet it wasn’t only the french moderation that got played and yet no one talks about it.
you don't mess with french (or any other European country) worker's rights
I will never understand how Minecraft breeds such insane drama, and I don't just mean regarding streamers and youtubers. Literally every server I've been a part of since 2010 has devolved into absurd friendship-ending drama.
I TNT'd my friends base 8 years ago. He and I were around 28 at the time. He hasnt spoken to me since. We had been friends since we were teenagers. Cause a massive rift between our friend group
@@wishing1513 I'm sorry but this is the funniest thing I've heard in years.
@@wishing1513LMAO
@@wishing1513 LMAOAOAOAO
@@wishing1513 LMAOAOAOAOAOAOOAAOAOOA
okay I'm french and I watched QSMP from the french side and one joke was that Kameto only came for like 1 time and never came back, so choosing him as a french representative on QSMP is unfortunate when there were much more active and important french streamers like Aypierre or Baghera. But it's understandable when we take the fact that he's very popular, I guess
moufronn
L'Ouest est tombé
Des milliards doivent mourir
Je ne peux pas me reproduire
Pourquoi il a accepté alors si il savait pertinemment qu’il pouvait pas tenir le rythme ?
@@TheAltarios91 rien était inscrit dans le marbre, il n'était vraiment pas sûr de si il reviendrait ou pas. Ça n'a juste pas accroché au début, alors il n'est juste pas revenu. Il faut pas plus creuser que ça je pense, c'est normal que les streamers fassent plus de contenu sur ce qu'ils aiment, et qu'ils soient moins enclins à continuer de faire un contenu qui ne les as pas touché dès le début
they should have chosen Shadoune ! he love getting around the spanish speaking
it sucks when someone gets accused of something terrible and everyone instantly turns on them when there is no proof
Quackity's Merch company is so bad that some people are just now getting their orders/refunds from his DSMP Las Navadas stream almost 2 years ago! Its a running joke in his community to flip a coin if you order from him cuz you may never receive it.
they shouldve got qsmp merch earlier in 2023 it would save this entire doomsday fall
honestly just rename the QSMP to BadboyHalo's Eggy adventures at this point because thats mostly what it is now XD
Poor man runs a one-man show most days on that server he’s so dedicated 😭😭
Who even apart of qsmp even now?
im not even a minute into this cvideo but this is probably just another one of those smps that died down because of people not caring enough
@@barritoothy People do care, it's just that the things with Wilbur and Forever happening in rapid succession to one another (not even mentioning the egg admins not being paid properly thing) kind of tainted it for lots of people
yeah, glad theres a qsmp fan here because there a lot of fake fans who dropped in, said bad thing about QSMP because of this video and leave. QSMP isnt a bad project as a whole! But there should be things to considered.
The minecraft kids need to be controlled bro. Quackity didnt do anything and they are treating him as if he was the one talking to underaged girls. Like bro quackity didnt do anything to deserve the hate and the death threats, its not that serious.
Ik he didn't manage it well and the displinary actions were not taken in the correct manner. But he is getting so much HATE when the other guy is the one actually talking to lil girls. That's what I'm trying to say above
Online community’s like this usually treat LGBT creators unfairly, Quackity being gay is probably why he’s getting unfair treatment
@@Jollyjose251 hes gay??
@@Jollyjose251He's gay??
@@blue-qz4cs Yes he is
Bro these ppl doxxing and tracking dreams vehicles irl are actually clinically insane
And they do worse shit than "accusing dream of grooming"
It’s as insane as Quackity getting betrayed by his crush Wilbur Suit
@@Jollyjose251 what??
@@sunny_dd You didn’t know Quackity romantically liked Wilbur?
@@Jollyjose251 no I didn't dang😭
"The Quackity server has over twenty six thousand members"
[260,000 members]
well. I guess it IS over twenty six thousand...
it’s like saying that the year 800 was more than 100yrs ago. It feels wrong but it’s technically the truth
Having a French workers union getting involved was not on my bingo card for a Turkey Tom video but it is certainly the frenchest thing a french person could every do
What can i say? We fon't like unpaid work
@@prophetedubaroque5136 Our unionisation practices should be on the UNESCO world heritage list right beside our gastronomic practices
@@prophetedubaroque5136volunteering to work somewhere is asking to work for free
Turkey Tom the type of guy to hum "everybody was kung fu fighting" during a fight scene
moufronn
😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
I can just picture him with a boom box with that song playing lmao
Kekkkkk
😅😅😅@@moufronn
That thumbnail art got him looking like he off dat zaza
I like your profile picture very cute car.
Very nice car in your profile is it a Tesla?
How fast can your car go?
wow that car is cute, what breed is it
What weed are you smoking? 😭😭
Swear to god bro after Techno died, the Ancient Spirits of Light and Dark were released into the mc community, turning everyone into hardmode variants.
Can’t believe Techno was the WoF the whole time smh
If you’re feeling overworked helping a Minecraft server why not quit it, it’s not like that’s an actual career like these people think they’re trapped in a goddamn pit
They dug straight down
is shameful to leave a project where you've lost not only money but also friends, like damn. all for nothing? I don't think so, Quackity probably feels obligated to finish it even if it's no longer beneficial for him lol
@@starlightm_1593it’s a Minecraft server, not much financials going into it and if ur “friends” ditch u for stopping something clearly harming you then drop them, those aren’t friends
@@5h4d0w5l1f3 goated comment
Sunk cost fallacy and being closer to your idols ig
I hate to say this, but I am happy Techno didn’t have to see all of this shit go down to everyone.
Based
Yeah i feel like techno would be disappointed in his friends if he saw them now i feel like he wouldve resolved the issues with dream and the others easily.
he was the glue holding the minecraft community together fr
I'm especially glad that he didn't get to see the Wilbur situation, that shit upset me greatly and it's not as if I even personally knew the guy
Techno would’ve squashed it
As someone whose only experience with minecraft SMPs is hermitcraft, feels like I coincidentally landed on a single block of water when everything else is netherrack and lava.
I just rewatch technoblades videos because it takes me back to simpler times😔
Hermitcraft just sweeps their drama under the rug. TFC was homophobic, Tango stole builds, Ren and Doc quietly continued to work with FX Pr0cess who tricked Helga Rakel into installing a discord token logger to monitor her DMs.
@@jamien7049 I stand corrected I guess, but to my defense I only watched from Grian's PoV, these names don't show up nearly as often from his perspective.
The thumbnail became his worst nightmare 😭
dream/george: grooming
wilbur: abuse
quackity: tax evasion.
Quackity broke labor laws, he didn’t commit tax evasion.
Let me fix it for you;
Dream: Accused of grooming, beat the allegations, innocent.
George: Accused of grooming, beat the allegations, innocent.
Wilbur: Actually terrible person, abuser and manipulative.
Quackity: Irresponsible, uncaring and allows all types of illegal activity under his business' name, then says he is trying to do the exact opposite
@@tilkilit i genuinely just don't think quackity could have possibly predicted how crazy everything would get with his stans. this last like year or so has been so god damn violent with these people. actual mental patients on twitter typing this shit out. putting trackers on cars, threatening assassins, are we in fucking john wick?
@@tilkilitWell for one they were mostly the volunteers complaining about how there not laid when they are "volunteers" and I didn't pay much attention to the video never saw anything other than maybe the grooming to go under his name which he had not know about as far as I know
Just saying, if you're going to make a video about the controversies in a multilingual server, then you should cover everything that happened in every community.
The French and the Brazilians faced heavy xenophobic comments from the very start of their involvement in the server.
Baghera, a french creator, was bullied off the QSMP elections event by the fan base, people of multiple languages.
ForeverPlayer was the first big controversy of the server, when it came out that he had had inappropriate interactions with minor fans in his past, and was then kicked out of the server, but not before his entire family got doxxed and sent death threats to.
New fans came across Cellbit's controversy with his ex (whole other can of worms, which was actually not involved with Minecraft) and started attacking him and his girlfriend. Everything got so extreme that he had to finally speak up, 7 years after everything had happened, and posted a PDF containing extreme sensitive information to defend himself. He also was forced to come out as asexual for that same reason.
Nearing the carnaval event, the Brazilian fan base shared complaints about it being scheduled at a time when most of the Brazilians creators wouldn't be able to attend. This prompted a wave of hate and xenophobic comments, people throwing slurs and calling them ungrateful, and multiple people attacked were driven to deactivate their accounts. Accounts that attempted to shine a light on the situation received hateful DMs as well, and Quackity's stream addressing the situation only sparked his community to be more hateful.
I hate how easy it is to make a video that glosses over almost everything bad that quackity has actually done by having his 'ignore all controversy' mentality, he's just getting what he deserves after nurishing such a pathetic and parasocial community
@@Zealeys While I think Quackity meant well when creating the QSMP, I can't deny that the way he went around things definetely wasn't ideal, especially for someone who was the face of the project at the time.
I mean, it's a bit difficult to create a community that's supposed to be diverse and share different cultures when your own followers are used to going on raids and trolling, and all they get to "correct" that is a slap on the wrist.
@@Zealeys Most online communities work fine and only create ignorable controversy.
Holy shit get a Iife Ioser
is it me, or only the hispanic part of the qsmp didnt get a heavy polemic? or maybe im just ignorant, but, like, even the french and the brazilian were involved in some kind of drama. we hispanics are more chill in that aspect xd
Bro's worst nightmare became the QSMP
it's like that's in the title
how do you restate the literal title and get 100 likes lmao
@@ho_vre idk man 😭 it really wasn’t funny at all was it
@@ho_vre average gen z see the word 'bro' and cannot help themselves
Bro forgot the skull emoji 💀
Honestly I’d say the allegations and hate towards the minecraft RUclipsrs as a whole are wild. I’ve never seen any other group of RUclipsrs in this much scrutiny.
popularity
@@2NavalieAnd having a fandom that's too young and implusive for dramas.
Or maybe they’re jus bad ppl ☠️
Three options are correct ^^^
@@wind6799or maybe the accusers are bad people that just like to ruin others career
Everyone knows that when you feel uncomfortable talking to someone you should ruin their reputation and spread false allegations instead of trying to talking it out with that person!
I still really like the QSMP, and the idea of the project altogether :] Ive gotten to know of so many new creators and them being able to comfortably speak their native language and still chat with eachother is really cool. My biggest applause to the Behind the Curtain modelers, coders, npcs, and admins for all they endless work theyve continuously put in. I look forward to what this project will do next and the many communities theyve yet to introduce (really excited for Filipino rep). It hasnt been a perfect run, but i dont think we should give up on everything because its been difficult. I understand Quackity taking the steps to allow people more qualified to manage Quackity Studios. Dude is 23, never owned a business, never run a server, and is working with many different countries with their own laws and policies. The other stuff? Very unfortunate, but such is life. We dont know any of these people no matter how many hours we tune in to their block adventures, so when allegations or controversies come up we should try to look at the evidence objectively and not set everything on fire as soon as a post is made.
But my experience, while pleasant and quite fun, cannot be applied to everyone in the fandom, unfortunately. Much apologies to the foreign communities facing harrassment over cultural difference, something the QSMP was made to help dissolve.
Finally, a decent comment
If you showed this video to anyone from the 19th century they would instantly die
the society is that fucked up that trying to be private is considered 'shady' now
It’s not an excuse for workers feeling like they are not being paid well enough , but this sounds like a case of a guy being in over his head and being disorganized rather than malicious mistreatment.
I wish I could view it as that, but the fact that he never even once tried to actually fix the issue makes it real hard for me to do so.
The guy had every opportunity to fix the issue as every single volunteer that was wronged and the French union wanted the Qsmp to continue. Quackity simply never responded.
If he truly did feel bad about his employees, then he’d try to fix the issues when the opportunity arises, rather than letting everyone forget about the problems.
I miss when Quackity used to hang out with Thanos in the closet
Dream and Quackity: "If I make an SMP with a live translator, I can unite the world and bring peace"
Fans: *sharpens pitchfork in spanish*
Unpopular opinion: Quackity fell off when he stopped hanging out with Axl. he just became loud
I miss him just laughing with sully, hoover and wildspartanz
Agreed
In an alternate universe, they never broke up...
Axl is the only estonian i respect😔✊
I remember him and hoover They were all so funny
Damn, haven’t been this early for a Tom video since Quackity tilted the Roblox devs.
Nice pfp
Also when Quackity came out of the closet
I subscribed are you gonna spank me..
@@Jollyjose251 HES GHEY?
@@Jollyjose251?
man imagine if Minecraft youtubers just acted like normal humans
Don't lump em all in there are still amazing RUclipsrs left like grian mumbo and the hermitcraft group and the new lifesteal smp those guys are chill and make amazing content
@@Kittiesftw I didnt ask for *commercial* seating on this flight!
quakity is acting pretty normal
Mc youtubers in my country used to do that but then the qsmp came along and everybody started acting like idiots
(Literally how tha hell my brazillian youtubers just shifted over night to be this shitshow)
man i wish! i missed those normal dsmp day
11:10 I can’t bro, “several volunteers spoke out about the working conditions of the server.” Dawg it’s a volunteer position, you give as much time as you want.
that's the whole issue here. They were free labor but treated worse than some employees. This company took advantages of fans with barely to no working experience.
@@PainterVierax thats not on the company when the participants have the choice to leave or not. there's no obligation on either side which is why it's stupid for people to make false accusations and dramatize the conditions. when you are the person who defines what conditions you work in, you cannot pin the blame on someone else.
@@panibreaddd do you realize they were fans of the project and put it above their own wellness, right? And the fact they were mainly chosen because of that? Do you understand the relationship abuse they got into? It's more or less like a cult instead of a usual company.
That's precisely why in many jurisdictions volunteering is forbidden outside of non-profit associations.
@@PainterVierax me when I leave the discord server and stop caring if I feel mistreated
Some were hired as volunteers, promised pay, and then given ridiculous amounts of overtime work then terminated
Finally a fan base that can combat Dream's insane fans
all the degenerates from dsmp days went to qsmp, doxers included
Their Battle will be legendary
Tbh they might BE Dreams insane fanbase
They used to be, theyre old dsmp fans who think theyre better than dream stans bc theyre q stans, but to outsiders its obvious theyre literally exactly the same lol
there's a good amount of insane dream fans that have become insane q fans, and qsmp fans
I thought the title said "how quackitys audience turned him on"
Bro 😭
FINALLY. IVE BEEN WAITING FOR SOMEONE TO TALK ABOUT IT. No one ever recognizing quackity in his peak eras of 2017- early 2020
"Oh my god! Who the hell cares?" - Peter Griffin
Yeah I’m sure Quackity will find another boy to fall in love with since he’s lgbt
@@Jollyjose251he's straight 😭
@@aikatsu6902 He's actually probably bisexual, never did a coming out but he posted/liked things that alluded to it :)
@@sugarcanewt most likely he's being supportive of the LGBTQ community really doesn't indicate anything towards him being bisexual. Sure, in most of the SMP's he's been in he acts remotely gay towards his friends as a joke but who doesn't
@@Jollyjose251 is this supposed to be homophobic bffr
I think that Quackity originally cut the Dream team off because he didn't like all the drama
Well then he did a sh*t job at it. Even if you don’t want to be friends with someone anymore, you should at least speak up about your fans literally doxxing him, sending him death threats, swatting him and his family, and actually showing up to his own and his family’s house. If he wanted to cut them off to get rid of drama, then he did the worst job I’ve ever seen at doing so.
@@treehouseoffun1242 And when his unhinged fans did the same thing to him he calls it too far lmao, but when it's other people getting attacked by his fans he goes around and praises them.
@@treehouseoffun1242girl shut up u dream fans are delusional asl.
@@hokagab You do know the fans that do that would not listen to Quackity even if he said something right. I hate people asking creator to treat their audience as a child and scold them and stuff, he has millions of fans, there's always gonna be sketchy people that in a lot of hispanics streamers point of view they do not belong to the community. When he praises his fans its never directed to those skecthy people.
Its really stupid t request someone to scold fans as if that will make those toxic people listen, NO, those people are like that and will not change even if their idol tells them to stop
@@elizar2534 Here’s the thing, you can mitigate the damage caused by it however. Dream and his family went through hell and could’ve been hurt or died, which probably could’ve been mitigated if Quackity simply told them that he disapproves of this. Dream himself has shown that you can help people going through things like this because he helped Tommy and his family went they went through a similar situation. There are so many things Quackity could’ve done and he just shut up and acted like nothing was happening. Also, if your fans are harassing someone horrifically, you shouldn’t be praising them period. Whether his intention was to praise the horrible pat of his fans or not, he still shouldn’t have done that. Praising your fans is probably only going to worsen the situation.
i remember watching quackity from the toontown days and to when he did roblox stuff, the raids were so fun to watch and I miss him and aksel’s friendship
Twitter is such a hell hole is what I got from this
The weird thing is, I distinctly remember Quackity claimed he was leaving content creation to pursue a legal career after graduating university.
Then a year later he's making a Minecraft SMP that he's allegedly putting all of his time and money into, basically trying to catch smoke in a bottle and artificially replicate the Dream SMP in a fraction of the time and with exponentially more monetization.
Then a year after THAT, it turns out he's in so far over his head that he's now at risk of being sued for defrauding customers and violating international labor and customs laws.
It definitely feels like he was trying to do a blatant cash grab without really understanding why people were so engaged with the project he was attempting to replicate. You could sort of see this in the day following his announcement, as he was going into random minecraft streamers' chats and throwing money at them to try and pressure them into joining his server with pretty mixed results.
Tbh I wouldn't be _that_ surprised if it was a cashgrab, but I don't think this is just him looking for more money. Some part of this is definitely out of passion because if he wanted more money, the easiest thing he could have done is stick with the Dream Team and keep making content with them, then pull the "I didn't know :[[ I'm a college student guys I'm too busy" stunt if it bites him in the ass later
@@seafoam8845 A few issues I see:
1.) He was set to start actually working in the legal field in 2023, even announcing he was leaving MCYT and severely cutting back on his content to focus on his career off-platform.
2.) One thing a lot of QSMP stans try to hide is the fact that Quackity didn't have a full list of streamers ready when Dream made his announcement. If this was actually a passion project, I really doubt he would've waited until after someone else announced a similar project to start looking for people.
3.) From what I've heard from the former admins, Q grabbed the live translation mod on Curseforge as a bandaid fix to compete with Dream having his own in-house translation mod. This has me wondering if QSMP was actually just going to be a spanish/english speaking server like he played on before, and USMP had him freaking out that the more diverse member list would've dwarfed QSMP's relevance.
he never said that
Turkey Tom uploads so frequently its single handedly feeding my youtube addiction
moufronn
Didn’t even releaize LMAOO
ngl whats that manga in your pfp?
@@houdini3413 how the fuck could you possibly lie about this?
@@moufronn MOUFRONN FR FR 🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
miss how quackity was in his older vids with his og friend group. once he separated from them and began Minecraft with dream and whoever else he became unbearable to watch. he used to be so funny, that minecraft group seriously ruined him. its obvious he left his friends for money
“History doesn’t repeat itself, but it often rhymes” Mark Twain quote is honestly the best way to describe the Minecraft RUclips community
Is it just me or does it feel like QSMP is super irrelevant compared to any other content he's done. Most of the videos on it are barely able to hit 100k views. Doesn't sound like a good investment to continue and there's so much maintenance for it :/
Eh it’s probably more about Twitch streams and views. The server was getting hella engagement from multiple language communities at its peak.
It’s very much not profitable tho with the cost of the language translations. At this point it does lean closer to “passion project” than anything designed to make money. More like a money sink, but one with a pretty admirable goal of uniting communities and languages. Unfortunately that lack of money came at the price of workers.
Its probably cause he actually does like bringing communities together but that shit robbed him
he desperately needs to go back to *any game* SUCKS!!! series
It kinda depends, because I can tell he made this project with just the pure love of wanting to unite languages across the globe as an inmigrant without expecting anything in exchange but it also did have a huge impact in latin american countries. It literally made a bunch of other content creators lowkey beg to be added to the project too and I saw cosplays and art of the characters EVERYWHERE. I think it could have been highly profitable but the people inside it didn't know where to put the actual money.
probably irrelevant to quackity but its really popular with other streamers. The reason why its so irrelevant is that he just drops in every few months. I forgot he was the owner of the server.
Social Media really seems to bring out the worst in people.
You gotta give it to Quackity, he ATTEMPTED to do what Dream does and any other minecrafter does.
Unfortunately the minecraft grown ass adult fans are as broken as the League ones.
And unfortunately not only he let other people manage it so he can just earn, it's like leaving a group of rabid chimps with knives in a room and expecting them to peel potatoes.
Just to come back and see all bloody on the floor with 0 peeled potatoes wondering what happened.
Quackity needs to sit his lardass and do work, or just quit. There will be no more Kwebbelkop's.
i miss old kwebbelkop
Yeah I always knew it was incredibly stupid of him to not be involved in the behind the scenes. You own the server, this is your PASSION project, why would you not be involved in the behind the scenes to make sure this project goes well??????
@@OfficialEdwardNewgate It was because he wanted to be a player and not know lore stuff. And honestly for me it seems like making a movie for example, the creator of a movie sometimes will not be involved in the process or what goes behind the scenes even tho he's the creator, obviously he should have been involved, but he efed up, he's taking accountability and fixing it the way it needs to be. And honestly its his first project, he's bound to making mistakes, and he did big time, but he's fixing it
@@elizar2534 even movie creators... know about their projects statuses, news, behind the scenes and how it's going.
You don't actually finance a project, which was your own idea btw, and let it get built without knowing if the people building it aren't using spatulas instead of hammers. It doesn't work like that.
Quackity wanted to earn, that's the bottom line, if he really cared about the idea he would of known at the very least how it was going, which he didn't bother to find out until the backlash happened, prior to it there was quite the time lapse for him to AT LEAST get a memo, a sticky note or something but nah.
As if this "idea passion project" is just a facade to earn at the end of the day. Which it is.
@@Max-ej4oh He doesn't even earn anything from the server wdym, he actually loses a lot from it. Like i said, its his first big project, he's bond to making mistakes wich he did big time i'm not denying that and i hold him accountable, but he is fixing it how it should be, not by making twitter threads or anouncing things in twitch when it is always adviced by lawyers not to say anything when legal stuff is behind, and its great he is taking responsibility for his mistake. But people really have becoming so vengative and raged with human mistakes its like nobody can make mistakes anymore (obviously situations like wilbur's don't count because he himself did it for so long and knew he caused pain with no remorse).
why is this hyperedited like a sunnyv2 vid
SunnyV2 is worse by far
@@Dustfired why?
@majorfender6054 Sunny has had some really bad takes with his videos. To add insult to injury he ALWAYS makes sure they are atleast 10 minutes long to hit that engagement requirement.
@@Dustfired so its bad to want profit? Also his takes seem valid idk what specifically you don't like that he has made
Well... the video failed to show dozens of workers, paid or not, that came out talking about their experience that corroborates one another. Actors, lore writers, people from most twitter accounts, programmers etc etc etc. There's a lot of people who came out with their experiences after Lea. I saw a comment here that "people dont respect quackity's personal life and therefore he's shady", like, no? it's because of what a lot of his workers said, y'know? No one gatting paid enough - if even. The Egg actors worked almost 24/7, the french Egg was online most of the day, everyday, writing lore and translating things for twitter. Did she get paid? Well... she didnt, as she said. So yeah, if this isnt shady, oh boy...........
I'm from Brazil, I saw everything happening in our comunity too... Xenophobia, death threats, telling them to kys and so on and so on. Basically what happened to Dream, I guess, I saw a lot of similiar things. And I know it happened to the french speaking comunity too. All from the spanish speaking community, I guess, I dont want to point fingers buuuuuuuuuut..........
the eggs were never forced to be 24/7 on the server, like Richas who explicitly said he stayed bc he wanted to, Pomme was the same, their job was not to be on the server all the time, also unless ur programming i dont see how playing mc should be paid minimum wage💀
Most of the jobs were voluntary and about the community, why would y'all listen to randoms on twt? there's weirdos all over twt and the block button is right there, theres a lot of xenophobic ppl from all communities and the logic thing is ignore stupid ppl on the internet, its like the first rule here?
@@mikyo9722 Some were hired as volunteers, promised pay, and then given ridiculous amounts of overtime work only to be terminated. Others were given small amounts of pay with the promise of higher pay and then higher pay never being negotiated
no te preocupes, es verdad que siempre son los fans de latam que se comportan así. literal pasa en todo fandom
@@isolated_bunny foi minha primeira vez num fandom e me surpreendeu muito esse comportamento. Não foi comigo porque eu não postava nada, só acompanhava de longe. E dava pra ver que tinha um padrão sabe? Complicado. É uma pena porque o projeto era bem legal, os ccs se gostavam muito, e a comunidade tendo uma parcela podre assim.
shut uuuup with the « no one was forced to stay 24/7 ». The admins were being pressured by higher staff, just because Rychas said that he wasn’t force doesn’t invalidate all the other testimonies from other eggs admins saying that they would be replaced if they didn’t come as often.
Honestly, none of this surprises me; I participated in one of his videos 2 years ago. The video was a roleplay contest and he said at the very end of all the recording the winner from a poll on who gave the best skit/performance would win money. Slimecicle and Schlatt were there too (but they were not aware that there was even going to be a prize; Schlatt made that much apparent). I participated because I wanted to appear in one of his videos and nothing more. It was good fun, but he never payed out. We kept asking him and one of his discord peeps (back then I believe he was called wheatabix, now its terrile the tortoise) on when we could expect to see the money but nothing. Everyone has kinda given up and it soured the experience a little bit. Either way, I 100% believe that those accusing him of taking advantage of free labor for content or fabricating giveaways for clout are right.
Did you win?
@@justabloke7222 I think its higly implied that no one won
I think there's a video where MrBeast force him pay money to discord talents show winners
Gosh these Minecraft RUclipsrs are so embarrassing. I get Quackity, Dream, and Tommy are all still fairly young and immature, but they operate like they’re in high school. The way everyone handled the QSMP/USMP drama was pathetic. This was something that obviously should’ve been talked about between the two… Not ignored, not aired out, and not having anybody deciding to insert themselves into the drama.
Agreed. However, I feel like both Dream and Quackity's fanbases are so irreversibly toxic that they wouldn't be able to coexist without comparing the two servers and subsequently starting a war lmao.
Either way, Dream and Quackity should have just talked about it like adults instead of posting threads and ghosting. The imput from all the other creators was so childish and hard to watch 💀💀
Dream wanted it sorted privately lol while quackity ghosted his messages and Dream went insane after a month of doxing and harassment and slander
@@llamaniaman4002 Oh, 100%! The two projects were always going to be in competition with each other, that was unfortunately unavoidable.
And I feel the exact same way. A simple mature conversation between the two could’ve easily caused a positive resolution. I don’t know these people, but I genuinely don’t believe the two projects being so similar was due to malicious intent, and it was probably just a crazy coincidence. ‘Childish’ is the perfect word to summarise the way people handled this though.
@@llamaniaman4002Agree. To my understanding though, I think Dream stated that he tried to contact Quackity privately but never received any replies. That’s why Dream aired all of that publicly. But imo even though he probably thought that was the only way to stop the whole doxxing wars going on in the community it only made it worse.
@@shimaphys I'm 22, and I think that it has to do with the way people are being raised more and more online. Additionally, impulsivity is way more common and hurtful than people think lol
I haven't checked in on Quackity since my senior year of high school, when he was raiding AnimalJam. 😂 This has been a wild catch-up, but very informative. Great video!
I truly hate these muppets who have never had to hold down a regular job in their life.
You talking about the streamers or the people spreading allegations? One of those makes you relatable, the other makes you look like an *******.
Holy shit the severed steel ost god is here
They could never make me hate you Quackity
Brainwashed
The problem is that keeping things private is completely different to keeping everything in the dark. In a time where questions and controversy are high, the last thing you wanna do is stay quiet. People want answers, and refusing to give them that just means they're gonna start making their own answers, which tend to be even worse than the truth. Being quiet just makes you appear guilty, you *need* to have transparency over such a severe topic as grooming minors.
Why does he need to reveal personal stuff about his family to satisfy strangers curiosity…
@jellyfish668 Because if he doesn't, the public will destroy him. It's not fair, but it's the price you pay for being a public figure who actively promotes a public work.
actually, i don't think he kept everything in the dark, he made a few streams in spanish explaining that he literally can't speak about what's going on behind doors for LEGAL reasons and because everything the team sent on the discord server was being leaked on twitter. a lot of french and brazilians even said he only made those streams in his native language because he was "hiding" things and didn't want people who don't speak spanish to find out.
Theres one guy that beat cancel culture by staying quiet
Uh, no. Justice system literally works on INNOCENT until PROVEN guilty. Dumbass kids on twitter crying=who cares
"Selling information, leaking assets, etc"...people..its a minecraft server
As someone who grew up watching Spanish speaking creators, and then eventually switching to English speaking communities, a project like the QSMP had always been a dream of mine to see someday. When I first heard about it, I thought it was one of the coolest things I had ever seen come from the internet, so it is extremely sad to see the amount of drama and issues that have come out of it.
Alright, I don't think I ever want to even see Minecraft again. This stuff is exhausting
If you're going to have volunteers, don't hire anyone from outside your country.
And if you are, learn about how volunteers work in the country you’re hiring from.
Yeah, live translation is not a novel concept. You can really thank the development teams who made that possible by creating the actual machine translation models, servers to host them on, and APIs to connect them with apps such as minecraft mods or whatever
So basically, his fanbase turned on him because of things.....that weren't him? He handled it really well all things considered, I feel really bad for him.
Technically, at least for some parts. He wasn’t the one who made people have bad experiences while they were working, except for the fact that the lore writers needed to constantly change the lore because he made lore decisions on stream without telling anyone and the time he made the people who worked on the prison event completely rewrite it the day before the event, but he still had issues, like him seemingly not paying the workers even after saying he would, apparently letting his groomer brother work on the Qsmp, the situation with dream, the fact that he ignored the French union’s attempts at contacting him, and some other issues I’ve probably forgotten. The guy sucked as a boss and ceo.
@@treehouseoffun1242 his brother did not work on the project.
@@aironas1402 Then why is Roscript’s account linked to quid, an account that worked on the Qsmp?
imagine thinking moderating a minecraft server is a job that deserves money
They didn’t until they experienced workplace abuse and were promised help that they never got.
The things against Wilbur are not just allegations.
Legally they have to be called "Allegations" otherwise Turkey Tom could be actually sued for Defamation. That's why you hear RUclipsrs say "Allegations". Innocent until proven guilty.
@@Dustfired I'm pretty sure she didn't press charges. Aswell Wilbur basically admitted it.
@@gumpycat116 Oh, I don't doubt you but they STILL have to say "Allegations" because a court hasn't convicted Willbur guilty of his crimes.
@@Dustfired yea Wilbert admitted to doing the weird stuff. But he said he didn't abuse her.
@@gumpycat116 Yeah I heard all about it
If I was Quackity is just shut down the server and go back to streaming or whatever. Yeah more ppl lose but screw it might as well go nuclear
issue is this won't end people blaming him. He already missmanaged his company during a year. He is still responsible of this crap.
Am I the only one who just remembers Quackity as a YTP/Meme channel in like 2015/16 and hasn't heard of him since? Crazy how this guy went from that to a Minecraft youtuber with millions of subscribers.
Yes sir what a time to be alive... These guys are millionaires
I KNOW RIGHT 😭😭😭
anyone think turkey tom becoming a commentary content farm
Id argue that there is some level of difference between a fast upload schedule and a content farm, to me it feels like the quality of the videos has stayed fairly consistent even if his uploads are quicker. But thats just my two cents.
@@thefinalgrimswald354Content farms don't have to be obviously low effort. Illuminaughtis videos looked high quality for instance unless if you know the topic wwll, then you know it is all stolen and poorly researched .
If you produce long videos quickly you either need a production team at which point it hardly even is your video anymore or you have to cut corners. Most notably quality of research since people don't notice that as much.
AGREED
commentary content farm are things like moist, pyro etc. people that dump daily slop
@@pureexile1702 I mean it can also be categorized as people who don’t do the work except voice act the script
Poor Quackity dude. He doesn't deserve to deal with all this shit
Why do minecraft players always have to argue and care about something like this it is like some random youtuber is the biggest part of their life. At this point people are making a big deal about the smallest things just for clickbait
As somebody who watched OG quackity this is kind of what happens if you sell out.
Kameto appeared more in this video than in QSMP 💀
I love how the entire idea of the server was to bring people together despite language barriers...and yet two people who speak the same language started to drift apart because of who wanted credit for the idea
Nope. Neither really had an issue until Quackity’s fans started violently harassing dream, which caused him to become the internets punching bag.
@@treehouseoffun1242 Both parties have people that are violent and annoying as hell. Trust me, Minecraft Twitter is hostile for everyone. There will always be the loud minority group who will make everyone else look insane.
I doubt anything these streamers say would’ve helped too. It might be admirable to tell people to stay chill, but clearly it doesn’t work after a certain point.
Either way, even Dream says he shouldn’t have brought Quackity not speaking to him to the public in that mega post. It 100% added fuel to the fire and created a bigger situation.
Both groups of fans just need a damn restraining order against each other and to stop making posts about how they want the other creator to suffer and die.
@@_indigo_inked At the same time, it probably would’ve helped if Quackity responded to dream instead of simply having him go through that hell and simply have him wait it out and hope nobody kills or arrests him. The whole conflict would’ve been resolved, or at least very mitigated, if Quackity simply responded.
@@treehouseoffun1242 No? I’m sorry but no one is owed a response on discord. If you don’t want to talk to someone that is your right. You’re not a bad person for ceasing communications.
Also, we don’t have context for why they stopped talking in the first place. Maybe something happened and it made Quackity uncomfortable with talking to Dream? We have zero clue about their relationship and I don’t think anyone /has/ to talk to someone.
If you think you have to talk to someone at the risk of them dropping all the info on your conversations on Twitter, that sucks. Sounds stressful for no reason. We gotta admit it’s weird behavior to have a personal conflict, then make a mega thread about it to a ton of people that you know can become hostile. That’s how you make a flame burn brighter.
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And it wouldn't have been as bad if Dream didn't make a whole thread about Quackity ghosting him???
Tbh as someone who’s not from France, if the French government started trying to get me to stop doing something I’d ignore the shit out of them too. I’m not going there and I’m not gonna get extradited over differences between American and French labor laws so why would I respond in any way
This whole drama just screams
WHO FUCKING CARES
(A lot of people apparently but the most unimportant happening in the internet, why can’t people box each other anymore? Smh)
yeah i mean i side with quackity just because he like to keep his PRIVATE life private makes him a bad guy like yes there are valad points but most of them dont even link to quackity himself mostly just his brother why are people acting like he is his brother (btw i dont activly watch quackity and my opinion is based on what i could find)
@@trasheistgaming2853 The issue is that Quackity allowed his brother, who is a groomer, to work on the Qsmp with minors. He didn’t even bother to get rid of his scummy sibling from his discord, where his brother groomed minors, until months later.
Tom is the type of guy to play SMP servers.
I just watch hermitcraft now. After technoblade died i stepped away from that whole dream affiliated crew. Too many stans and people being butthurt over things that dont matter
I mean, stans were a part of this issue but people weren’t butthurt over nothing. This was actually serious.
@@treehouseoffun1242 yeah, i was wrong abt that part. I think that techno was really the only reason that i was a part of that community, though.
Is it just me or when techno passed everything went in hell in the Minecraft community
Everything went downhill when technoblade died. I miss 2021. 🤧
Very true
rest in piece techno, truly was the best of them
Regardless of all the drama surrounding the end of the series, it's undeniable the impact that Quackity and QSMP have had on the content creation community itself. As a Brazilian myself, I learned English and Spanish because of QSMP, and I really enjoy Quackity's content. He always seemed the most honest and laid-back among all the former participants of DSMP, and I hope he overcomes these difficulties and continues making his bilingual content.
I hope he learns from this situation. He has a bad habit of getting into horrible situations and simply letting them die off. I hope he learns that isn’t an option and he needs to take action.
I geniunely dont understand why people need to get mad at quackity for what his or his friends' fans are doing. He had said time and time again to not be hateful towards others, etc. He cant control what millions of people do. Not to mention how stupid it is to get mad over quackity not being friends with or interacting with certain creators. If he doesnt wanna interact then be it, no one can force him to be friends with other creators. Its also HIS smp so he gets to decide who stays and who doesnt. If everyones uncomftorable with someone its rather obvious they cant be forced to interact with someone that makes them uncomfortable. Quackity is also not in any shape or form responsible for whatever the other creators do.