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Brexit: Sunderland voters describe why the Leave vote there was resounding
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- Опубликовано: 6 июл 2016
- Liverpool and Manchester may have voted to remain but why did so much of the north of England vote to Brexit?
Why would Brexit change how the Conservatives treat Sunderland? Wont change a bit.
Would like a revisit in 2023 to ask each of these people views now. Not so enthused I would imagine.
Stuff ups and Machiavellian machinations of the establishment doesn’t make their choice wrong - it just makes them depressed that their vote really doesn’t count for anything - the establishment does what it wants regardless. The trust in democracy has gone and the shutters have fallen from their eyes
Aww still sulking about losing Sorry mate
@@OnlineEnglish-wl5rp Ah - like telling someone who should have had a hip replacement 10 years - still grumbling about your hip? Don't think I did lose. The UK did. I was pinpoint on the mark about ultimate outcome. The tiny margin who voted leave have a lot to answer for damaging this country. You could almost consider them as unpatriotic. I know most leavers naively expected things to improve in general - but there were some I know who actually wanted the country to burn. They got their wish.
p.s. I know that according to polls 10% of UK population still believe brexit is going very well. Maybe you are one? I'd like to know why?
It's not a lack of education BUT intelligence and ignorance not being interested in what is going on outside of the UK, it's the biggest mistake ever made
No it’s not. In time the UK will once again be vindicated as the canary in the coalmine and the first strike back of many by the people against ever increasing centralisation of power. The British public’s instincts are good and have been proven right over centuries. NEVER underestimate the British public.
@@mogznwaz
More like Britain will end up back being the sick man of Europe like the seventies.
The Nissan car plant that so many of them work at would never have been built without being in Europe and the single market, also now with rules of origins getting stricter a 10% tariff to export into Europe is looming.
That's their main market as well.
Large trading blocks exist, the EU being our local one, a protest vote by a few million British people ain't going to change what 27 countries and over 448 million people want to do.
@@scots_knight4706 I’m not anti trade bloc or have any particular animosity towards the EU, I reluctantly voted Renain so I don’t feel I have an axe to grind either way. Some people like to be independent and some like being part of a large behemoth of a security blanket - both are legitimate choices not just one of them. However the whole ‘sick man of Europe’ was always a spiteful crock of a term when Britain was struggling a bit post war (understandably) - other European countries struggle as much or more and don’t get called ‘sick’ so that’s a grossly prejudicial statement. Second, Nissan have stayed in the UK for multiple reasons. When there was a push for us to go into the Euro there were headlines about Nissan threatening to pull out and us being left behind on the periphery of the eurozone - and it was all a load of bollix then. Not going into the Euro has not negatively impacted us at all. Yet the propaganda of the time sounded very ‘Brexit like’ ie we’re little Englanders, backward etc etc. if you fall for such blatant propaganda that’s on you.
@@scots_knight4706 there is some thing to be a said about being a speedboat rather than oil tanker. And the point people like you ALWAYS leave out is that the EU is NOT ‘just a trade bloc’. It’s a political unification project. And that’s the issue. Canada, Japan, the USA, North Africa, etc etc etc are not in the EU. If the EU were more like the CPTPP or the old EEC we’d never have voted to leave. The EU’s ever expanding political controls make a lot of people very nervous and if you can’t see the difference…. Again, that’s your problem. You seem to think being in the EU is good because it allows you to bully your way through the world like the USA and China do. I don’t like bullies.
So, 7 years ago to protest against Westminster they voted to leave the EU. Well, they succeeded getting out of the EU but are still stuck with Westminster.
Europe is stuck with the EU.
The one thing that seems to be totally disconnected is all these issues are domestic and nothing to do with the EU. By all means vote in a hard left party to redress the inequality but voting to leave the EU only plays into the right wing Tories hands.
Exactly; their ignorance and stupidity are astounding.
And now, without any connection to the worlds biggest market of half a billion wealthy customers in the EU, just one days lorry ride away from the British farms and factories, they are all f*cked. Good. I hope they all get rickets.
All the issues are to do with the EU somewhere along the chain
@@mogznwaz How?
@@michaeltagg492 OK, after 50 years of top down EU bureaucracy our civil servants and our politicians are used to working in a certain way. They have to re-learn the British way and the basics of statescraft and law-making all over again. The European default has always been ‘’everything is forbidden unless explicitly allowed’ hence the overt bureaucratic minutae the EU us famous for. But English Common Law works on the principle that ‘everything is allowed unless expressly forbidden’. Being in the EU has been warping the mobs of our politicians and our people for 50 years so there is an unnatural disconnect between our centuries old constitutional assumptions and how things are now done. This has to be resolved because the two are naturally in conflict from their very foundations.
They have legitimate complaints, but what they have done about it is making it worse. They have voted for the thing the rich and powerful wanted. They would have been better off voting for the UK govt to be disbanded and have rule by EU. The Brexiteers are not about the common man at all, EU is - imperfectly, but more than BJ, Rees-Mogg, etc.
You’re hilarious. You think Brexit was a plot by the 1%? 😂😂😂🙄🙄🙄
How thick can you be??? No, the derangement of the 1% since the plebs didn’t do as they were told - THAT’S what’s been very clear.
The EU is run in the interests of major corporations but you middle class types wont listen!
Be interesting to do a follow up
The young lad is spot on. Those wanting to become an MP should be on minimum wage to keep them in step with reality
I believe that.
Reasonable accommodation that they get for free, minimum wage, only one job (so no other second jobs).
It's just a shame that by voting out they've enabled the complete corruption of parliament by Johnson et Al.
Oh to speak to them now?
It’s amazing to me how badly the ordinary people understand the EU and the workings of Europe. The older people feel let down with the very small pensions and allowances after years of hard work. Irish Pensioners have the equivalent of £226 weekly plus Free Travel And allowances per pensioner. That is not the EU at fault, it’s the UK Government not respecting their elderly !
It’s clear you have no clue yourself about the EU or its aims.
@@mogznwaz 17.4 million voters certainly did not know anything about the EU. How is Brexit going then ?
@@iedco4 So you, arrogant person, think 17.4 million people were all too ignorant to know what they were voting for? But you think you are so enlightened you know what they all don’t? Wow. You’re a piece of work
One British pensioner told me his pension was about 20% of his former wages. In Belgium that would have been about 60 to 70%..
@@flitsertheo And? What’s that got to do with anything?
Should have asked the question - what will change when you leave?, because from where we are today in 2022, the country is in a worse state. I'm from the North East myself, but sending a message to Government is one thing, shooting yourself in the foot and opting out of one of the biggest trading markets in the world is another. I'd go back and ask the people of Sunderland what benefits they now have.
No, opting out of the political EU project. Opting out of the Single Market comes with that because the EU makes it an all or nothing proposition. No one has opted out of trade. Trade continues - as it does with EVERY OTHER COUNTRY IN THE WORLD THAT ISN’T IN THE EU. I don’t think you quite understand what’s going on. The 1% IS the EU.
Worked out well for them lol
London doesn't understand us.
So they leave the EU.
You can't make this up!
Didn't Sunderland get more investment from the e u than anywhere else in Europe ? Well let's see what happens
frankie cullen yeah that' great advocate of the working classes
Angry with Westminster so they voted Leave the EU, enough said.
Westminster IS the EU’s London office - do you not see that?
I understand what is being said about inequality, London etc ... but WTF has that to do with the EU .. the vast majority of the blame is UK Governments.
Because there's no party for the North or the working class anymore so this is a protest. Look at the grooming gangs all in labour areas. Labour are supposed to represent the working class. They despise them as much as the Torys do. Corbyn at Glasto sums it up. Working class who work in factories and in manual labour jobs in Sunderland, Liverpool, Manchester, Newcastle etc aren't going to places like Glasto so why the fucks he there. Labour now is just a virtue signal party for the middle class, the middle class will vote for them as they feel by doing so they're helping out the working class. Couldn't be further from the truth
@@mancunioner And Brexit will remedy this how?
Westminster and London are the EUs UK office full of EU operatives - do you not understand that?
So nothing to do with the EU?
How are the sunny uplands in Sunderland now then?
Nissan are continuing to invest
Nissan hasn't been producing "Sunny" models for ages.
Would be cool to hear from these people who voted to destroy Britain by leaving the EU, because they had issues with their local governments! FFS
Well done channel 4 for delivering unbiased coverage , its a rare thing these days .
It's an even rarer thing THESE days, .......in fact it doesn't exist any more, .....sad.
mark c: Its certainly a Very Rare Thing Indeed on Channel 4. Their news is appallingly biased!
As I see it, The resentment is towards the political elite , the financial sector in London and the neglect of other parts of the country.
And they are globalists, oligarchs and pro EU because the EU WORKS FOR THEM.
I live in Yorkshire now but I'm Hendon born and bred . and I could listen to these people all day! ... Well played Sund'l'nd!
FUCKING IDIOTS JUST LIKE YOU !! VOTED FOR MORE SUFFERING !!
Shame on you Sir for you remarks to some of the countries noble people! I am a Southerner being born and breed in rural Buckinghamshire. But I can still the true value of my fellow Northern Country men and women.
If yo had any real sense you would clearly see that this country is run by a greedy self profligate political elite, firmly placed in the pockets of the gangster mentality of the banks and financial city.
If you think Howard MARKS that those who run the country are there for you and I? Then you are more deluded than those idiots who claim that Islam is a religion of peace.
There were numerous equality and work place directives placed on the statutes after WW II and before the UK joined the EEC.
Glynn Wright Yes there were. There was also a Labour government who gave a toss about people and instituted the NHS among other things. Not so today.
Tommy Applecore
That's the problem , people like you listen to each other talking shite all day every day and get nothing done . Fucking wasters
As with so many of the so-called reasons for brexit, these people are voicing very valid concerns but their problems have nothing to do with the EU and they will not be resolved, but rather made worse, by leaving the EU. They are problems caused by many years of bad politics within Britain.
A year late but well said m8,your absolutely bang on!👏👏👏
What you’ve said clearly isn’t true;
In terms of fishing waters, EU red tape for small businesses and cheap labour, there were plenty of sensible reasons for the people’s of Sunderland to back Brexit.
We only left the EU a month ago, give it an actual chance first (clearly you would rather it failed just so you can say you were right, rather than wanting what’s best for our country).
The only apparent red tape cutting in the two years since we have left the EU has been employees rights.
@@SRPC21 so how is Brexit going one year later?
@@SRPC21 cheap labour was a self-comforting myth to disguise the fact that EU workers are better skilled and more motivated. We’re now 2 years after Brexit and we have shortages of workers crippling the economy so clearly Leave voters aren’t that desperate to work !
the politicians have noone to blame but themselfs
Nothing in this report indicates disillusionment with Brussels or the EU. What is clear is that there is monumental disillusionment with British politicians and the political system here. The irony is that by voting against EU membership the electorate have enabled Johnson, Cummings et al, whose regard for the public at large is non-existent. Things in the UK will not improve as a result of Brexit - far from it. They will get considerably worse, and if anybody trusts BoJo and Cummings etc to help in any way at all they’re sadly mistaken. So much for a protest vote, eh?
The EU does not benefit ordinary people
@@sidwislff6184 😂
@@serinadelmar6012 what is funny
@@sidwislff6184 The irony.
@@serinadelmar6012 Please do explain
They should ask these 'experts' about brain surgery as well, seen as how they all appear to be trading and economic experts
I had no rights to vote in the referendum. But I've realised ever since how little I knew about the single market, tariffs and so on. I don't need to know how my fridge or washing machine work; I just use them. And for sure, it they break down, the technician is not going to ask me how to fix it.
The referendum was like asking the patient where to cut during surgery.
This made me laugh :P
@@miriamllamas224 No, the referendum was based on a sound principle to which there is no right or wrong answer. Do you wish to be an independent country and trade around the world outside of EU restrictions - or inexorably become an integrated part of a United States of Europe with more and more power concentrated in Brussels? As the public were NOT given a choice on the Maastricht of Lisbon treaties this was a LONG overdue constitutional decision. If the vote has been to Remain this time I think that would have been it. Forever. The EU doesn’t do referenda. Look at the results of any referendum that hasn’t gone its way - they’re either ignored or re-run until they get the ‘right’ answer. This is the first and only time a referendum not in the EUs favour has been forced through (and it’s STILL hasn’t been fully implemented), the EU will do everything in its power to undo it and so will its stooges here in the UK. Like you.
Would love to interview them today? Just to see if they're still so clueless..?
Yes, they are the same
Your patronising attitude is shameful. I think the British public’s instincts are spot on and have been for centuries. London is the EUs UK office - do you not understand that??
Today they would claim Brexit as they voted for hadn't been delivered yet.
All complaints refer to London. Barely a mention of Brussels or the EU. Brexit is just people lashing out at any authority. No mention whatsoever of how Brexit might make things better. It's quite a sad situation.
London IS the EU. Do you not get that yet?
@@mogznwaz London is no longer the EU but still no improvement. Quite the opposite I would say.
@@flitsertheo London is full of EU citizens, immigrants and Remainers.
The people's grievances are genuine, but blaming the EU is misguided. The North has been hard-done by successive UK governments (both Labour & Conservative), exacerbated by the financial crash and years of austerity. Brexit is only going to make things worse. Even official Government analysis projects the North East economy will be hardest hit, shrinking up to 13% in the 1st 10 years after Brexit. The signs are already evident in manufacturing (especially cars), agriculture and services. We need to stop this Brexit madness now by revoking Article 50.
Westminster has been the London office of the EU for decades - do you not understand that?? And where do you think VAT comes from? It was a new tax imposed by the then EEC. The European model is all about tax and spend.
Disgraceful may, betraying the British people !
Shut up Cliff!
You're out now. Are you happy?
The guy that speaks first is spot on about the 1%. A lot of the 1% are the ones that have been punting Brexit. What does that tell you?
Wrong. The 1% and the top 10% are overwhelmingly in favour of Remain/Rejoin. The banks, big business, the politicians, the media, academia, and the middle class with Polish nannies and ambitions to have holiday homes in the South of France - all overwhelmingly Remainers. You are trying to make Jacob Rees-Mogg and Tim Martin representative of the 1% when in reality they are outnumbered by some distance. The EU is good for globalists and oligarchs - by supporting it you are supporting the establishment. The fact you can’t see that shows how thoroughly their propaganda has been executed. Brexit to you appears to be simultaneously the fault of thick racist working class plebs who didn’t know what they were voting for AND the cunning plan of the establishment - but not the choice of the superior, wise, educated metropolitan middle class left wing Remainers sandwiched in between who made the only rational choice to rescue the ungrateful plebs from themselves out of the kindness of their hearts and valiantly fought all the scheming 1% who secretly wanted Brexit and picked Boris and Mogg and Farage to be their mouthpieces - because the media love them so much 🙄 I bet you see Brexit as a Tory/right wing thing don’t you. Well it’s not. Traditionally it was LABOUR who have been the eurosceptics, including Tony Benn and one Jeremy Corbyn. The northern Red Wall voters voted to Leave. Blairites vote Remain and the Tories have always been pro EU. David Cameron campaigned to Remain - and who is more establishment, globalist 1% than him??? The public *explicitly rejected* what the establishment told them to do because the public understands that the establishment no longer works for them, it works for its globalist overlords. And you’re helping them.
The "Mackem's" are goosed, I lived and worked in this great city back in the 80's and 90's working out the many collieries, I could see that the city had real problems even then, add thirty years and Sunderland looks better but the same problems persist, the advent of Brexit and the wishes of the locals will never be satisfied with a BJ government, very disappointing.
Well being in the EU obviously didn’t help them either then…
Jesus when are we gonna dispel this absolute bollocks that everyone in London is well off and living the high life? Some of the most deprived areas of the country are in London for ffs
I don't think they are referring to the immigrant populated areas......
I think there are 2 false narratives running here. 1. People in London are rich, most aren't and the standard of living in London is really bad for most. 2. Brexit was a northern working-class vote-it wasn't. Hence why the home counties voted to leave..
+Atlas Shrugged
I don't know what comment means, London is one of the most diverse places in the world, what "non-immigrant" place are you refering to?
The media overlooks the fact that 1.5 million people in London voted ' leave'. and the whole of Kent overwhelmingly did the same.
You have to get the context right to understand the argument, When leavers say those in London, We mean the politicians Not normal London Residents, Who i'm sure are struggling just as much as we are here in Yorkshire.
I was trying to glean from that what it had to do with the EU referendum. So Sunderland like many parts of the UK is getting a bad deal from the London government and has been like many other parts of the UK suffering under the governments austerity measures. Thankfully money is going to the regions via the EU, of course its British money but if left in the hands of the UK government then the regions would see even less. So the solution is vote against the EU, well we will see in the next couple of years how that is going to work out, good luck Sunderland.
All capitals in the World get a much better deal than individual provincial towns Ha Ha
Hello? If the EU give the NE no money now then after brexit they will still have no money then, what do they loose? Nothing. You don't know the governments spending plan after brexit you cannot say what the NE will get
So uneducated and giving us lessons. Don't know the difference between *lose* and *loose*. Obviously you get less money as no multinational can't stand Bullshit Brexshit [having to pay tariffs] and end up relocating in the EU. See what happened in Sunderland? The NE = a fecking British dump, sorry, I meant SHITHOLE
@@573lbt the news outlets need to go back to Sunderland, Boston, Wales, big leave voting areas and feel the pulse again
@@573lbt 50 years in the EU didn’t help you and Westminster has shown time and again it’s no more than the EUs London office.
Oh and Nissan didn’t leave.
"We hate London, whatever should we do?" I've got an idea, let's give them more power to decide the fate of the country and leave the EU, that'll show 'em!
Germany had power once upon a time, can you remember what happened on two occasions.
Let me see. The Tory government wasn't doing anything for the North East, so the solution was to vote for Brexit, and then vote in a Tory government. These people DESERVE the misery that Brexit will bring to them. Yes, people ARE calling them stupid.
Agree 100 percent
Brexit was a good thing, name one thing the EU has done which is good
@@573lbt Im not british and my country has enough voter rights and we are not an EU member. I thank god everyday that we are not EU members
@@573lbt Nah, Norway is a joke. But jokes aside the EU only cares about big business. Not the working class
Vote out the EU becouse you’re unhappy with Westminster. Logic 😕
Both controlled by the same zionist elite.
We've been unhappy with the EU since Maastricht too but never were given the referendums promised by Major or Brown, Camoron had to hold one on account of the Lisbon treaty removing the last vestiges of sovereignty from the people of this land and guess what happened. By the way its 'because', are you one of those highly educated remainiacs we keep hearing about, very thin on the ground aren't you all.
Westminster has been the EUs London office for 50 years
So, angry with Westminster, so voted to give all the power to London, and cut off any EU money to depressed reasons like there.
Westminster has been the EUs London office for 50 years. Time to take it back and make OUR politicians accountable to US
@@mogznwaz Yep, we’re certainly more accountable to the US now that we have to go begging for trade deals.
@@tSp289 Us, the UK, not the USA. Are you educationally subnormal?
@@mogznwaz Nope, you just made a Freudian typo that I chose to exploit.
Quick question though. Do you really think our politicians are accountable to us? You really think Rishi Sunak's Tories are labouring ceaselessly to improve the lives of all British people?
How right was the gentleman who said May will be a turncoat, well that goes for many MPs, Overriding the people's vote, to stop Brexit, whatever the cost even if it distroy democracy. We must not forget how much power the people have when thay come together, as a collective force, the referendum we had either to stay or leave the EU proved that. It is clearly evident that the Conservatives or the labour party will never honour the people's vote, it is time for a new political system that can respect the people of the UK knowing there place, serving the people of the UK not themselves.
Come on Nigel Farage.
Paul Malachowski Look up "The reeds at Runnymede " by Kipling. Relevant right now.
@@teandsyrup._.6852 We shell not be bownd
Read the good Friday agreement and inform yourself on the outcome of brexit.
BREXIT will be in name only.
@M A you know!
@Vanessa Oliver Brian Elliot is correct.
I voted out and want a no deal.
I am an extreme voter because I'm an Irish nationalist. I voted for a united Ireland.
BREXIT is the opposite if the good Friday agreement and destroys that treaty.
That treaty is also democracy and the no deal version destroys that democracy and thus undemocratic.
BREXIT is about deep economic reform as in the eighties with Thatcher.
The rich brexiteers want to deregulate the economy so business can flourish.
But to pay for it will be private health insurance that replaces the nhs.
No welfare state for the poor or elderly and disabled. (92% of the welfare state bill is soaked up in oap benifits)
Small nation state and very little if at all workers rights.
That's what a no deal BREXIT brings. And with the peaceful democratic pathway to a United Ireland gone because of so called democracy (don't make me laugh) the paramilitaries will go into freak mode and its you and I and the like gets blown up not farage and Boris.
So yes Brian Elliot is correct in everything he says.
I digress....
E.u. commission has 33,000 civil servants (oops that unelected bureaucrats ) doing 43% of member States government departmental work looking after 585 million people.
The UK central government only has 405,000 civil servants (oops I meant to say unelected bureaucrats ) doing 57% of government departmental work looking 65 million people.
Which one is value for money?
National parliaments all have lobbying companies whom work for globalist elite and rich individuals and the national politicians vote in favour of laws and regulation in the interest of the rich individuals and globalist elite not the working man and woman of the nation's.
The e.u. commission cannot be lobbied and puts laws in place that say non, nien, halt to the laws that harm the people's of Europe.
The same rich companies who lobby national politicians own the media which tell us the e.u. is bad for us .
Read the good Friday agreement its a good place to start as to why brexit is in name only if at all.
Well done Channel 4 for interviewing all these lovely people from Sunderland. The main topic was alienation from London and all it stands for, but I'm not sure any of the people understood that the EU was on their side in much of the debate. This is a failure of the Remain side.
that and a failure of basic comprehension in Sunderland.
@@serinadelmar6012 😃👍
The EU is not on their side at all. What planet are you on? Westminster has been the EUs London office for 50 years. London is a Remainer hotbed - why is that do you think? Because it cares about Sunderland? STFU.
Do you think Aaron Banks or Farage will rescue Sunderland then you are in laurel and Hardy theme tune land ?
How do they feel now?
I can't see Westminster looking after these people the EU funding will go and jobs will go.
there is no such thing as EU money.
it's OUR money.
Robert Rodgers
I think some of them voted to leave as a protest against the government. It didn't help the remain side when Obama went on tv and told everyone that if the UK left the UK would go to the back of the que for a trade deal. Many people don't respond well to threats.
Yes Obama really made a error.
This is one of the biggest lies people were told. The Uk paid more into the eu than it got out so anything funded in the Uk by the European Union could have easily been done by the British taxpayer. Rubbish argument.
@@Hatemoth Really?
costofbrexit.netlify.app/
And when does the £350m pw to the NHS start?
The first comment made me mad, the EU has no money, it is UK taxpayers money and they give us a little bit back.
Likewise, the UK Government has no money. It is UK taxpayers' money and they give us a little back - very little indeed, in some parts of the country.
That's what they call an " information poor environment " !
We call them thick mackems ...up the mags!!
Depressed Pound? I now live in Vietnam I left the UK when I knew Cameron was going to win, I simply could not face him and Osborne. Here in Vietnam my Brexit Pound has shot UP in value!
Might be somewhat artificial. The pound dropped for a long time because of the uncertainty. Once plans were made it recovered, simply because it had a direction and was more predictable. Also good vaccine rollout has helped.
Great to see some truthful reporting unlike those BBC bastards supporting the crooks in No. 10
There's a lot of the disaffection against the UK Government, who have caused suffering and even deaths of the people of the UK. What ever we think of the EU, they have not.
Wow, are we talking UK or US? One comment in particular resonated, They have no idea how the average person lives. Like I stated, these comments could have just as easily come from the US.
It's always been a problem in every country after all. There have been centuries of squabbles between the working and ruling classes.
It is 'globalisation'; Wall Street was tripping over itself in the rush to export US jobs to China back in the nineties, in order to make a quick buck. I was on fringe of it, the financiers have no loyalty to any nation, no morals, no sense of civic duty, no Christian grace or charity, just pure greed. It is just the same in the City of London. The final straw for me was when I heard a middle aged (British) women financier, on the City metro, start laughing when her Dutch colleague said that he had just visited the North of England. When she stopped laughing, she said "Oh, poor you." That event secured my exit vote.
@@Kerel94 , who are the ruling class?
Me gonna cook me some sovereignty for me and the kids tonite.
How's brexit going Sunderland people. Did you get what you voted for?
Yes thanks
@@peterchessell28 and what was that?
😂
@@peterchessell28 about as much as your collective IQ.
You won't get a response, you never do
My goodness, with Brexit we have been shown how miserable it is to live in Britain.
They thought things couldn’t get worse .. there in for a big fucking surprise
Turkeys voting for Christmas lol 😂
Oh how well I remember last 4 years of Brexit supporting jeering "We won, get over it" towards those who voiced warning. Well ... arent you glad now you "won"? So get over it!
This video stands tribute to what a lack of education does to you ! I trust they are enjoying all the tax increases…….which they voted for. One doubts that any one of them could do the simplest of additions when 16 ounces = 1 pound, 14 pounds = 1 stone.
I voted remain,but Sunderland are great people
There are only two well known people who came from Sunderland . Adam Johnson and Wearside Jack ( the Ripper Hoaxer )
peter kelly and Jordan Henderson and Nigel Clough
Wait, wait, wait, there was actually a movement to switch from metric units to imperial units? the metric martyrs? now that's truly ludicrous.
What happened was council jobsworths plagued the life of a market trader in Sunderland because he measured in pounds an ounces, this was a response to those.
There was already imperial units and the EU wanted to change the UK to metric units but the punters understood Imperial units better
The media dubbed it “Metric”. “Imperial” didn’t have that ring to it.
Wrong. It is to allow a choice. A lot of people still think in pounds and ounces, feet and inches, like local market traders. The EU prohibited saying ‘a pound of apples’ rather than a kilo, now that restriction has been removed and people can use what they want depending on their specific history or local culture. No big deal to me - I switch between feet and inches and metres and cms all the time. I know what I weigh in stones not in kilos. People still use pounds and ounces about a baby’s weight. WE’RE NOT EUROPE.. We have our own culture not a homogenous mush.
My sympathies go to Sunderlands Nissan employees that voted Remain who now find their jobs under threat if Nissan decides to go which it may well do. I shudder to think of families that work there or people with mortgages.
Would serve them right, you reap what you sow, welcome to the Brexit sir.🐷🤡
Nissan haven’t gone anywhere. Well done Brussels stooge for swallowing their propaganda whole
None of the “reasons” these people give has anything whatsoever to do with the EU.
Britain will regret brexit
Wait they voted to leave cuz top 1% got richer, do they really not understand that primarily force for Brexit was banking industry and the regulation that EU wanted to impose?
A hilarious blast (of stupid) from the past. 🤣🤣🤣
Did no one tell them UK growth (one of the only EU members with any growth) increased by a third this quarter? The people versus the power is absolutely correct. The one thing that came out of the referendum is how biased UK media actually is. It was incredibly disappointing. I now firmly believe the BBC should be deconstructed after a life time of being supportive. They are far from their neutrality charter.
Oh and today the lead economist at Deutche Bank warned the Eu they Eurozone is close to collapse. He confirmed the Eurozone banking system need a 150Bn Euro Bailout... Again. He also said that the Eurzone is sick and needs to be addressed warning of an accident ahead if it isnt.
Apart from the fact that our quarterly growth before the referendum was 0.6% and this quarter starting in July was a mere 0.1%. Of course, nothing to do with Brexit.
The IMF just upgraded the UK growth forecast for this year to the highest in Europe. That has everything to do with Brexit. Speaking for one of the companies I know intimately, the UK was absolutely off our investment radar as we moved facilities out of the EU in order to compete at an advantage with EU based competition. Post Brexit we are in discussion with various agencies in the UK about a new facility there once certain details are confirmed. I have many clients of my private practice doing the same thing. Some of them are among the largest corporations in the world. The circle of investors I know well, predominantly US, Canada and Middle East based are extremely supportive of the choice Britain has made and I know of no one without a political agenda that believes this to be a bad thing in the medium and long term. So far, the short term has been better than expected.
Growth that benefits few corporations is no growth at all you neoliberal psychopath
Where does growth in the UK come from? Mass immigration and soaring house prices. Not industrial growth.
That man was right - Theresa stick in EU
Therese is the past. You've had worse crooks as PM since.
Such a shame that it didnt go as plan and we have had to fight the same old battles against the establishment Brexit Party will make it all happen
Geoff Evans: Go back to sleep Geoff!
Geoff? Can we have your views now?
That lady hit the nail on the head about unemployment "they keep saying they isn't, but they is"
People saying Nissan will leave Sunderland? If German car makers start selling much less cars in the uk then the Japanese car makers will take more share of the market in the UK which might mean more Japanese car factories in the uk. I live in Oxford and BMW will stay here because UK market is huge to them and they have invested massively in the Oxford Cowley car factory. Trade is trade at the end of that will drive a final deal.
You might want to delete that rubbish 😂
Brexit is positive for the UK but the remainers are out to suppress and lie instead
@@rareads No doubt you can give us a list of tangible Brexit benefits.
I like coming back to these Brexit videos nowadays...so, has it all worked out for you?
No. It hasn't catasrophically crashed yet though. That's more than I was expecting.
Given that our vaccine role out is miles ahead of the EU I'd say at least on that front its worked.
@@TheAlexagius True. I don't think we'd have been able to get away with it to the same extent if we were still in. I still think the EU represents a much more mature, grown-up , less warlike, corrupt and greedy political body than the UK government, and that it was very much in our economic interests to stay in, but in this case the greed has worked in our favour. I'm also a pragmatist. Now that we've shat the bed with Europe, I really do want us to do well, and prove me and all the other remoaners wrong. I don't have a lot of faith, but I do want it to happen.
Give it another 5 years, when they can't blame covid and we'll see how the pips squeak then. After the industry in Swindon is gone, the fishing fleets are completely rotted away and Nissan is packing up. Well done...but they know what they voted for dint they? Brexit is and was the wrong answer to the right question.
@@TheAlexagius however the vaccine was secured while still in the EU medicines agency. It's a red heating
If the Tory party was a strong caring for the people party , would the Brexit vote have been different ?
Seems to me the vote is a clear vote against our government which does not care across the board .
It is also not true that everybody in London is well off .
There are just as many poverty stricken areas as in the rest of the country .
Westminster is the London office of the EU - do you not see that?
Free Movement from countries whose average wage is 1/4 of what it is in the UK is a flawed concept. What has happened as a result of it, and as a result of introducing the Euro, was utterly predictable before either were actually tried. Clearly that are far too many people in Brussels who do not understand the very basics of economics.
Bullfrog377 oh they understand all right, they just don't give a damn about the little guy.
I'm so so sorry for you. As if you did not get any advantages from leaving toilet cleaning and bartending up to poorly waged Eastern Europeans... Get rid of these people, that's my advice, and take the toilet brush in your hands!
We were all so happy when we saw the Sunderland vote
I remember that night.. had a jog in the evening, thinking "oh well, it's one of those times when the EU's did scaremongering and gets to flip the vote to their favor again..." It was predicted to get close but about 52-48% Remain.
Then midnight came and Remain was leading... politicians here in Finland went to bed thinking everything was gonna be all right. Nigel Farage even came out and gave his concession speech. Then Sunderland votes came in and tied the result... I had been playing a browser game and watching World cup football all day, I think Iceland played one of their better games, so I just thought of seeing the end result, but I had to stay watching. Then another batch of votes came in and turned it Leave 52-48... I saw Nigel come out again and give his "independence day" speech.
I watched all the way to morning, and seeing our politician's reactions was priceless. They felt like they'd woken up to a nightmare... J.K. Rowling wishing she could use Harry Potter's wand to go back in time, lol... And then it gave a boost to Donald Trump's election campaign and we know how that went...
Have I got news for you. Nissan have just said that if any tariffs are added to their vehicles they will pull out of the UK. That's 7000 jobs gone in Sunderland! How is that good? These people are doomed by their own bigotries! When they are all unemployed the first thing they'll do is look for someone to blame because It Wasn't Their Fault' was it! As far as I'm concerned people get what they deserve!
just curious… are you still happy that the UK has left the EU?
@@andythomas706 Nissan are still here…. Oh and btw if you go back you will see that they said the same thing about the UK not joining the Euro…..
@@The_Orgazoid I voted Remain, somewhat reluctantly, and I now fully support Brexit - thanks to the Machiavellian machinations of our Remainer establishment after the vote and the complete contempt shown towards democracy and the voting public. Shame on you for supporting them.
Do these people honestly think that Nissan will continue to operate their plant after Brexit or will they slowly close it and move production back to Japan ?
Big manufacturers will not hesitate to up sticks if it suits them ,wether in or out of the eu.Their first responsibility is to shareholders not local communities
If nissan want to sell cars in UK they will have to stay, if they leave UK there cars will be slapped with import tariffs.
Maybe british car companies will be resurrected.
John Tiseo . That won’t happen just like the British motorcycle industry, the ship has long left the port !
@@iedco4 not quiet right.british motorcycles on the up.triumph top sellers .health niche .Norton doing well . Brough on the up I only buy British stuff if it's available use it or lose it.buy british
Helen Loughton . The industry all but disappeared in the 1970s from cheaper and better foreign imports. It is only now becoming successful and relies on imports to manufacture and exports for sales. These movements will be subject to tariffs and will put the industry at a disadvantage yet again unless agreements are reached before the UK tumbles out of the EU.
2 simple rules for life ; No.1 - Never trust a tory
No.2 - Never forget rule number 1
Emotion 1 - Logic 0 = we all lose. What a shitshow :(
It is logical, they want jobs and change.
Atlas Shrugged
It is, but is it logically to complain about London and politicians in Westminster and then vote to give more power to those politicians?
The Tory's are already talking about cutting worker protection (some guaranteed by the EU up to now) and lowering cooperate tax rates, while cutting worker benefits and raising taxes on the poor to "combat" the effects of the Brexit and be more compatible on the world market.
Today is October 1, 2020. Their Brexit vote brought them nothing but worsening conditions. They did not vote against the EU, they voted against Westminster and are going to be paying a hefty price for that error, starting January 2021.
How long will Nissan stay in sunderland if they no longer can export to the EU?
Now what you got to say, since NISSAN ain't leaving?
notrut yet.
They're expanding. Are you deaf?
The UK has a lower cost per hour Labour rate than most competitors.
Unlike the current Hissy Fit of the Left?
Liar Blair, Rev Farron, Ed STONE Milibrain, Dutchman Cleggy?
@notrut Use your brain for just a moment. How long do you think the government will be able to deliver? And even if they would pay Nissan out to the brink of national bankruptcy, do you think they will stay without access to the single market?
No, they won't. Any money given to them prior to A50 being triggered will be proven worthless as soon as the UK is out. You can't bind companies to stay for living off subsidies for some time, you'd need to buy them - which is never going to happen either.
I can't blame them...I'll blame the bureaucratic EU instead
Chris Marshall, come on then, how is Brexit going to make the working man's life better?
It isn't Pete. They are about to find that out. Soon they'll be looking for someone to blame!
@@andythomas706Thomas yep. Sunderland is happy to back people like this www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-19300051
"The only thing I'm bothered about is the euro for me holidays"....ok that's understandable madam. No concerns for the future of your children then. Not bothered about Nissan reducing investment and eventually moving on. Not at all perturbed by a predicted 16 % (!) decline in NE GDP c.f. remaining in EU (the worst regional performance in the UK) if we were to crash out with do deal!! Na holidays is all that matters. Well I've got news for you lady. Decent people are going to save you from your own folly. Join the march for a People's Vote on the final brexit deal 23/06/18.
Bykermann ... She's another simpleton.
They should do neither, they shoud interview the whole country. Like a referendum 😊. But this time based on facts not fiction, although I’m afraid, like in every country, the masses don’t inform themselves and vote from their underbelly.
The public’s instincts are good. They instinctively understand what the EU is and its direction of travel. They chose to reject it, as is their right. The EU only offers an all or nothing proposition. In that situation the average Brit will instinctively say ‘up yours I will choose my own destiny thanks’. You can like supranational bureaucracy and continental concentrations of power if you like but you have no right to make a judgement on those who do NOT choose that.
At 1:40......this man is a prophet.
Anyone regretting voting for Brexit?
Everybody blames someone else!
These fishermen are talking sense.
this has aged well
@@kanedNunable indeed. Like fine milk.
Heard them thesedays?....oh, hahaha! - You reap what you sow. You gullible people
Let them suffer, like everyone else, they voted for it, now let them own it!
@BlenheimBomber you voted for it, now enjoy it pal! Welcome to the Brexit sir! 😥
@BlenheimBomber thanks for the, for what it's worth, will you give one example of 'reaping the rewards' if you would be so kind. Thank you.
Looks like the words of Albert Finney in Network have come home to roost - "I've had as much as I can stand and I'm not going to take it any more'!!
How's fishing doing
I feel sorry for these guys. Voting for Brexit to register their frustration with neoliberal economics, only to soon find that they're about to be on the receiving end of the most extreme forms of neoliberal economics imaginable, having seemingly given their blessing for it.
A number of Brexiteers individuals with their hedge funds will make a shed load of money next year. How stupid Sunderland voted Brexit.
7 years to mull over their situation up there. Cheers for that. I now have to eat tasteless tomatoes from Morocco and spring onions with no flavour from Egypt.
These people speak of real problems which absolutely need addressing, but these problems are within Britain. They are not caused by being in the EU and will not be solved by leaving it.
liarfeatures
When we take back control can you honestly see any of "our money" trickling any further north than Watford? You know how it works 70% London, 10% Scotland, 5% Wales, 5% Northern Ireland and lastly 10% the English regions...
Bravely revolting against the evil, oppressive, ermm... metric system?
The good people of Sunderland must keep faith with their natural party,Labour and reject right wing parties than will not care for your well being.
Back in your box Nigel! Thanks.
3:56 It surely made a difference. But not the one that was hoped for.
Wait until Nissan packs up their factory, there will be more men fishing on that pier for their dinner. "Thou shall hev a fishy on a little dishy."
It must be depressing, talking to the average voter.
And you know what will happen then? We will buy more fords,vauxhulls,toyotas... Only idiots believe they will pull their factories as it will cost billions to relocate and plus it was all talk.....
So far we are good the EU is the one in shit street...
NISSAN UK are staying put in the NE
40% equity share with Renault.
The Qashqai is remade as the CAPTUR for the French market as the French Socialists would never allow NISSAN to manufacture in France.
I hope it moves to Frankfurt before the Euro COLLAPSES.
Draghi can't go on MANUFACTURING 80,000,000,000 wealth every month.
Well, I couldn't do worse than the Goldman Sachs puppet in the BoE and the Irish Bilderberger who just got booted out of No11
Chip Shop Battering you say ....?
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3597282/Convicted-Polish-rapist-country-two-days-battered-senseless-52-year-old-man-d-never-met-threw-bus.html
Its all London's fault now, right. The day before, it was all EU's fault. It must be the damp.
Working out well isn't it.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 taking back control!