I've had mine for a year as well. Yes, I absolutely would buy it again. It's incredibly comfortable, behaves perfectly and a great pillion bike. I have no complaints. The first gear clunk is a Guzzi thing. Meh. Hunting? Not mine. What I did notice was at around 5,000 miles it suddenly smoothed out. I took it to Scotland for the Crieff Cloverleaf last September. 200 mile days were fine. I shortened them after the first two not because the bike was uncomfortable, but I simply didn't enjoy riding all day without breaks for taking in the location. If anyone does the cloverleaf, bear in mind it's a pretty arduous four days.
The first gear clunk is a Guzzi thing but it's much more pronounced than on the V7 or V85TT, at least it is on mine. Hopefully mine will also smooth out.
How many hours/how much distance can you do two up with a pillion? Specifically how comfortable is it for the passenger and for how long? I'm quite interested in this bike but a top level priority is making sure my wife is as comfy as possible. With our first bike I made the mistake of prioritizing highway power and ended up with planks of wood for a seats. The MT07 is a lot of fun, and I handled the 700CC just fine while doing my first year of riding, but we can't even get out of the city without the ride being almost over for my wife. She went from being very uninterested/skeptical/annoyed I wanted a bike to frankly really loving it. So now I need to solve the comfort issue and get a great bike we can do real adventures on. Just figuring out what it will be. The V100 seems amazing if she can ride for hours on it.
@TheFirstCause it's one of the better seats for a pillion out there on non-adventure bikes. It's difficult to say what distance the tolerance level would be because we are all built differently. Age is a factor too.
@@TheFirstCause this bike was designed from the ground up as a two up touring machine. As already mentioned, individual tolerance varies. I've fitted the comfort seats to mine.
Had my S model for 6 months: now done 5.5K miles and taking it to Spain & Mallorca for October. 32" leg size + wonky knees, so fingers X! Gripes: 1) quickshifter/ blipper is a complete joke compared to my 2020 KTM 790 Adventure S. 2) the almighty bang into first gear is now wearing thin with me, so much so that I often sit at the lights in gear 😖. 3) Hunting (surging I call it) yes, especially in 20mph zones in 2nd gear. I have found the only solution is to ride in 1st in a 20 and 2nd gear in a 30 (high revs), though with the amount of torque available it will do 30mph in 4th no bother. Would I buy again? Yes, the sound of the big V-twin is just sublime. I have had a few boxer engines: I like the engine braking, and the torque available for leisurely riding. The V-100 is the same 👍
Clumber Park - lovely scenery. I’ve an early V100S. Not as clunky and no hunting but I’ve always run it with Esso Supreme or V Power. They dont like being lumbered like it’s a Harley, the Aprilia guys designed these to be spun up. I’ve Cerakoted the heads as the paint was inconsistent. Otherwise no issues as yet. And I’d always recommend getting the sag and suspension set up by a pro - made a night/day difference even to the Ohlins electric springs.
The clutch engagement “issue” is totally normal. I have a 1994 Yamaha XV750 also, and being shaft drive, it also lurches when I engage 1st gear. No worries. Godspeed
There was a recall to replace a seal on the clutch slave cylinder. This made a difference in the friction point and I suspect it gave more throw to the clutch. May fix your clutch dragging problem.
Funny enough the point you made about the V100 not being comfortable for longer distance touring was the exact reason I did'nt go for the V100 and instead plumped for the V85TT last year. and haven't regretted it. The V85TT also had an offer which I took advantage off. I loved the looks, fit and finish of the V100 but even on my 2nd test ride I had doubts about comfort as I have a 33 inch inseam. The new Stevio would now seem my logical upgrade when I decide.
With the clutch creeping this was very common on trials bikes and could be rectified with slightly different oil but you’d have to look into what oils choices are suitable for this bike with the view engine and clutch drag (Assuming it has a wet clutch.
I believe that N to 1 lurch can be attributed to the bike’s high idle. I’ve had another bike that does that, a Honda ST1100, but it only will do it on first startup of the day, when the choke rpm’s are up slightly.
It’s a bike I have been thinking about and rode at ABR this year. I liked it. I currently have 1200 GS LC and love that so making the swap is tricky as I do love the GS. The Mandello is a beautiful looking bike though and I saw it for £10700 which seems like a snip. Good video, thanks.
Interesting review. I was just about to buy the S model but the negatives you are experiencing (lack of comfort, lack of precision of the gear box, heat, 'hunting", poor mapping...) really are making me think twice. I took it out the S model twice for test rides and loved it on open roads and motorways. I might test the Daytona but have had a Trident and Tiger 900 already and I want a bike with character for sports touring. I can't think of anything else that fits that description, other than perhaps the GS 1300 and I had a GS 1250 already. I love the R12 nine t but it has no protection. I also do quite a lot of dense urban commuting so the negatives you mention would be particularly annoying in a city.
The things I mention are niggles, niggles of course can grow into problems that ruin the ownership experience! There is a clutch recall (which I wasn't aware of) so that will be implemented at the annual service in a few weeks time. R1250RS? Ninja SX and Suzuki 1000GT both of which I like, but are a bit bland and vanilla.
@@blueyondermoto Thanks for you reply. The RS isn't bad but again doesn't have quite as much character and the other two as you say are a bit vanilla! No bike is perfect and there will always be trade-offs. I could get the R12 nine t and try to find a screen. Or just go for the V100s and find solutions for the niggles.
Yes, mine has the clutch drag and horrendous clunk into first gear. Yes, mine has a slight surging when going along on a tiny amount of throttle - typically in 4th gear around town. And the 1600rpm idle spoils it for me. Would I buy another? No, absolutely not until it has a 1200rpm idle and that DREADFUL clutch has been completely re-engineered. Oh, while I'm here, I really wish they would dump the aero fins and bump up the tank capacity until it's the same shape as the extended fins. As for performance and handling - both are superb.
@@blueyondermoto I believe it was only a preventative measure against fluid loss. I don't think it affects the operation of the clutch. Am I wrong about that?
Of course you'd buy it again...if you can find a Piaggio dealer....just make sure you get the S version next time PS It's RHS is it's best side...the LHS doesn't quite work aesthetically
I've put about 1400 miles on my green / silver V100S since I got it in April (including a recent trip to south Wales from my Yorkshire home) so I'm still in the honeymoon period. It does go into first with an almighty bang, but I haven't noticed any hunting - albeit I did get a new map at the break-in service so that may explain it. Worth asking your delaer about that at the upcoming service. My legs are even shorter (29") and the bike suits me. You can get it serviced before the service light comes on (I did, there's quite a lead time at Teasdales' workshop so I booked it in when I got the bike) but as you say you need the dealer to turn it off so I've been riding around with the service light on for about 500 miles. No biggie, I'm expecting some Guzzi side cases soon so I'll ask then to turn off the light when I pick them up. And yes, shop around for a deal as they're there to be had - I got 2.5K off mine new as it was the last 2023 bike Colchester Kawasaki had in stock back in the spring.
Yes I had an updated map put on the V100 at the 1st service, and it runs perfectly now, clunk into 1st is very noticeable but not an issue for me, suspension was too soft for me after 4000 miles, just set the preload on the right hand fork to max, the dumping 2 clicks from max, the rear shock 10 clicks from max, I’m 16 stone, the bike now feels stiffer, less fork dive, not as plush but more control, it felt a little at sea sometimes on the standard settings. Love the bike and have bought a second, just incase I break this one 😂
Hi Alan, interesting to hear how the Guzzi performs. I have the blade serviced right now and hopefully new tires will give me more confidence riding curves. Do you find the V100 easier in cornering than the blade? Do you miss the blade in some respects? I still have to practice a lot more with my SC33 before I am just as comfortable as my good old trusty cb400f in them days....😊. Cheers. P.S. forgot to mention, two friends of mine love touring bikes, one has a Honda NT1100 which he says is fantastic to ride, easy and comfy. My other friend has for many years now a Yamaha FJR1300. He says he will never have another bike than this one 😂
Hi Peter, yes on sunny days (like today) the Blade was just awesome. The V100 handling is much more stable on the road. The Blade is much sharper (appropriately enough).
I have a standars V100. It's a month old with just 500 miles on the clock. I have found it good so far but compared to V85TT which I had previously the heat can be overwhelming on a warm summers day and I am experiencing a lot of hunting which is more noticeable below 20mph in second gear. I am wondering whether this is a dodgy sensor which can be easily replaced under warranty.
I have 850 miles on my v100 and been riding it in 105 degree heat in the Central Valley of CA. NO HEAT problems. Just think people complain about everything. Ride a 2022 Ducati V4s multistrada in 105 heat and then compare. Your riding motorcycles not riding in a limousine so stop the bitchin.
It's not comfortable for long range touring, just done 2600 miles 2 weeks ago. Problem is seat. You have no movement you sit in U shape, compared to dedicated touring or adventure bike where you can move around. I have comfort seat and 36 inch waist and 29 inch inseam. Larger people will suffer more.
I have a V100 S with 5000 km and notice hunting around 3300 rpm, not worse but with modern technology it shouldn't be. First gear clunk yes, indeed worse when hot. Also have the ABS light comming on when overtaking with hard accellerating, it starts to blink very fast and I have to reset it with the ignition.I will report it on the next service and see what the cause is. Fuel consumption 6 liters/ 100 km Overall I'm very happy with it.
I've had mine for a year as well. Yes, I absolutely would buy it again. It's incredibly comfortable, behaves perfectly and a great pillion bike. I have no complaints. The first gear clunk is a Guzzi thing. Meh. Hunting? Not mine. What I did notice was at around 5,000 miles it suddenly smoothed out. I took it to Scotland for the Crieff Cloverleaf last September. 200 mile days were fine. I shortened them after the first two not because the bike was uncomfortable, but I simply didn't enjoy riding all day without breaks for taking in the location. If anyone does the cloverleaf, bear in mind it's a pretty arduous four days.
The first gear clunk is a Guzzi thing but it's much more pronounced than on the V7 or V85TT, at least it is on mine.
Hopefully mine will also smooth out.
@@blueyondermoto 5,000 miles seems to be the sweet spot. As for the clunk, it really doesn't bother me. I don't even notice it now.
How many hours/how much distance can you do two up with a pillion? Specifically how comfortable is it for the passenger and for how long? I'm quite interested in this bike but a top level priority is making sure my wife is as comfy as possible. With our first bike I made the mistake of prioritizing highway power and ended up with planks of wood for a seats. The MT07 is a lot of fun, and I handled the 700CC just fine while doing my first year of riding, but we can't even get out of the city without the ride being almost over for my wife. She went from being very uninterested/skeptical/annoyed I wanted a bike to frankly really loving it. So now I need to solve the comfort issue and get a great bike we can do real adventures on. Just figuring out what it will be. The V100 seems amazing if she can ride for hours on it.
@TheFirstCause it's one of the better seats for a pillion out there on non-adventure bikes. It's difficult to say what distance the tolerance level would be because we are all built differently. Age is a factor too.
@@TheFirstCause this bike was designed from the ground up as a two up touring machine. As already mentioned, individual tolerance varies. I've fitted the comfort seats to mine.
Had my S model for 6 months: now done 5.5K miles and taking it to Spain & Mallorca for October. 32" leg size + wonky knees, so fingers X! Gripes: 1) quickshifter/ blipper is a complete joke compared to my 2020 KTM 790 Adventure S. 2) the almighty bang into first gear is now wearing thin with me, so much so that I often sit at the lights in gear 😖. 3) Hunting (surging I call it) yes, especially in 20mph zones in 2nd gear. I have found the only solution is to ride in 1st in a 20 and 2nd gear in a 30 (high revs), though with the amount of torque available it will do 30mph in 4th no bother. Would I buy again? Yes, the sound of the big V-twin is just sublime. I have had a few boxer engines: I like the engine braking, and the torque available for leisurely riding. The V-100 is the same 👍
I find E5 petrol only makes a marginal improvement to the hunting / surging.
Enjoy your Spain ride! 👌
Zard make the best exhaust for this bike, looks stunning and sounds perfect, now matches the induction notes.
Clumber Park - lovely scenery. I’ve an early V100S. Not as clunky and no hunting but I’ve always run it with Esso Supreme or V Power. They dont like being lumbered like it’s a Harley, the Aprilia guys designed these to be spun up. I’ve Cerakoted the heads as the paint was inconsistent. Otherwise no issues as yet. And I’d always recommend getting the sag and suspension set up by a pro - made a night/day difference even to the Ohlins electric springs.
Good tips there.
The clutch engagement “issue” is totally normal. I have a 1994 Yamaha XV750 also, and being shaft drive, it also lurches when I engage 1st gear.
No worries.
Godspeed
There was a recall to replace a seal on the clutch slave cylinder. This made a difference in the friction point and I suspect it gave more throw to the clutch. May fix your clutch dragging problem.
Thanks for that. The bike is in at the dealers today.
No made no difference to mine after the slave cylinder kit recall was done. It was to stop the bike creeping forward in gear.
Funny enough the point you made about the V100 not being comfortable for longer distance touring was the exact reason I did'nt go for the V100 and instead plumped for the V85TT last year. and haven't regretted it. The V85TT also had an offer which I took advantage off. I loved the looks, fit and finish of the V100 but even on my 2nd test ride I had doubts about comfort as I have a 33 inch inseam. The new Stevio would now seem my logical upgrade when I decide.
With the clutch creeping this was very common on trials bikes and could be rectified with slightly different oil but you’d have to look into what oils choices are suitable for this bike with the view engine and clutch drag (Assuming it has a wet clutch.
It's just had a clutch recall mod done at its annual service. It appears to have cured it (for now).
I believe that N to 1 lurch can be attributed to the bike’s high idle. I’ve had another bike that does that, a Honda ST1100, but it only will do it on first startup of the day, when the choke rpm’s are up slightly.
And has we know, engine running temp doesn't affect the fast idle.
@@blueyondermoto know for a fact on the mid 2000 Honda it does
@@SinnerSince1962 I was referring to the V100
@@blueyondermoto Ahhh. OK. 👌🏻
It’s a bike I have been thinking about and rode at ABR this year. I liked it. I currently have 1200 GS LC and love that so making the swap is tricky as I do love the GS. The Mandello is a beautiful looking bike though and I saw it for £10700 which seems like a snip. Good video, thanks.
Glad you liked the video. £10,700 is a bit of a bargain.
Interesting review. I was just about to buy the S model but the negatives you are experiencing (lack of comfort, lack of precision of the gear box, heat, 'hunting", poor mapping...) really are making me think twice. I took it out the S model twice for test rides and loved it on open roads and motorways. I might test the Daytona but have had a Trident and Tiger 900 already and I want a bike with character for sports touring. I can't think of anything else that fits that description, other than perhaps the GS 1300 and I had a GS 1250 already. I love the R12 nine t but it has no protection. I also do quite a lot of dense urban commuting so the negatives you mention would be particularly annoying in a city.
The things I mention are niggles, niggles of course can grow into problems that ruin the ownership experience! There is a clutch recall (which I wasn't aware of) so that will be implemented at the annual service in a few weeks time.
R1250RS? Ninja SX and Suzuki 1000GT both of which I like, but are a bit bland and vanilla.
@@blueyondermoto Thanks for you reply. The RS isn't bad but again doesn't have quite as much character and the other two as you say are a bit vanilla! No bike is perfect and there will always be trade-offs. I could get the R12 nine t and try to find a screen. Or just go for the V100s and find solutions for the niggles.
Yes, mine has the clutch drag and horrendous clunk into first gear. Yes, mine has a slight surging when going along on a tiny amount of throttle - typically in 4th gear around town. And the 1600rpm idle spoils it for me.
Would I buy another? No, absolutely not until it has a 1200rpm idle and that DREADFUL clutch has been completely re-engineered.
Oh, while I'm here, I really wish they would dump the aero fins and bump up the tank capacity until it's the same shape as the extended fins. As for performance and handling - both are superb.
I've recently had the clutch "recall" mod done at the annual service. Its improved it, slightly.
@@blueyondermoto I believe it was only a preventative measure against fluid loss. I don't think it affects the operation of the clutch. Am I wrong about that?
@stevethackery9853 you could be right Steve, though mine does seem a little improved, that might be down to more use.
Of course you'd buy it again...if you can find a Piaggio dealer....just make sure you get the S version next time
PS It's RHS is it's best side...the LHS doesn't quite work aesthetically
The lack of good Piaggio dealers is a problem.
I've put about 1400 miles on my green / silver V100S since I got it in April (including a recent trip to south Wales from my Yorkshire home) so I'm still in the honeymoon period. It does go into first with an almighty bang, but I haven't noticed any hunting - albeit I did get a new map at the break-in service so that may explain it. Worth asking your delaer about that at the upcoming service. My legs are even shorter (29") and the bike suits me. You can get it serviced before the service light comes on (I did, there's quite a lead time at Teasdales' workshop so I booked it in when I got the bike) but as you say you need the dealer to turn it off so I've been riding around with the service light on for about 500 miles. No biggie, I'm expecting some Guzzi side cases soon so I'll ask then to turn off the light when I pick them up. And yes, shop around for a deal as they're there to be had - I got 2.5K off mine new as it was the last 2023 bike Colchester Kawasaki had in stock back in the spring.
Interestingly enough I'm expecting another bike from Teasdale's shortly so watch this space.
@@blueyondermoto I'm watching!👀
Yes I had an updated map put on the V100 at the 1st service, and it runs perfectly now, clunk into 1st is very noticeable but not an issue for me, suspension was too soft for me after 4000 miles, just set the preload on the right hand fork to max, the dumping 2 clicks from max, the rear shock 10 clicks from max, I’m 16 stone, the bike now feels stiffer, less fork dive, not as plush but more control, it felt a little at sea sometimes on the standard settings.
Love the bike and have bought a second, just incase I break this one 😂
Damping not dumping 😊
Hi Alan, interesting to hear how the Guzzi performs. I have the blade serviced right now and hopefully new tires will give me more confidence riding curves. Do you find the V100 easier in cornering than the blade? Do you miss the blade in some respects? I still have to practice a lot more with my SC33 before I am just as comfortable as my good old trusty cb400f in them days....😊. Cheers.
P.S. forgot to mention, two friends of mine love touring bikes, one has a Honda NT1100 which he says is fantastic to ride, easy and comfy. My other friend has for many years now a Yamaha FJR1300. He says he will never have another bike than this one 😂
Hi Peter, yes on sunny days (like today) the Blade was just awesome.
The V100 handling is much more stable on the road. The Blade is much sharper (appropriately enough).
I have a standars V100. It's a month old with just 500 miles on the clock. I have found it good so far but compared to V85TT which I had previously the heat can be overwhelming on a warm summers day and I am experiencing a lot of hunting which is more noticeable below 20mph in second gear. I am wondering whether this is a dodgy sensor which can be easily replaced under warranty.
Worth raising it with dealership.
Worth raising it with dealership.
I have 850 miles on my v100 and been riding it in 105 degree heat in the Central Valley of CA. NO HEAT problems. Just think people complain about everything. Ride a 2022 Ducati V4s multistrada in 105 heat and then compare. Your riding motorcycles not riding in a limousine so stop the bitchin.
@chriscatron2978 thanks for that Chris! ;)
If it helps I have a triumph speed twin 1200 (2022) in the summer it runs very hot and the fan is running a lot of the time. Stay safe
Cheers Alan.
My 2022 Yamaha does the same thing when putting it into first
Which model?
@@blueyondermoto XSR900
@@blueyondermoto I think its to do with the wet clutch
for me ive ditched the original Pirelli and its much improved ride with the Bridgestone S23 tyres
Handling improved?
@@vladcernat5202 yes it has
I'm still on mine. I'll be changing them soon for Road 6s. The Road 6 is less inclined to tramline.
It's not comfortable for long range touring, just done 2600 miles 2 weeks ago. Problem is seat. You have no movement you sit in U shape, compared to dedicated touring or adventure bike where you can move around. I have comfort seat and 36 inch waist and 29 inch inseam. Larger people will suffer more.
The seat is an unusual shape and as you say can restrict movement.
Would the higher touring seat help with comfort? It is much higher and heated as well.
Possibly. It only becomes an issue after about a 160 to 200 mile day.
Its very hard to hear you in helmet, not going to watch it longer.
Getting good audio is very difficult. I agree.
I have a V100 S with 5000 km and notice hunting around 3300 rpm, not worse but with modern technology it shouldn't be.
First gear clunk yes, indeed worse when hot.
Also have the ABS light comming on when overtaking with hard accellerating, it starts to blink very fast and I have to reset it with the ignition.I will report it on the next service and see what the cause is.
Fuel consumption 6 liters/ 100 km
Overall I'm very happy with it.
Thanks for the comment, very interesting.
Issue 1 is normal