New Marine One Will Change Aviation - Best Helicopter EVER?
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- Опубликовано: 12 июл 2023
- In this fascinating video for aviation and helicopter enthusiasts, we will talk about the legendary US government helicopter - Marine One. It is famous not only for its unique appearance and powerful engines. And the fact that the Sikorsky/Lockheed Martin VH-92 Patriot is an American helicopter being developed to replace the U.S. Marine Corps Marine One presidential transport fleet. It is a modernized version of the Sikorsky S-92 and in this video we will tell you why this particular helicopter takes the most influential people, including the President of the United States, when he needs to get from the White House to the airport. We will tell you how it is made and assembled, how it is transported in an airplane and what it is even for.
Watch this video till the end and you will definitely learn a lot of new facts about aviation and the amazing Marine One helicopter.
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I ended my 28 year career as a helicopter pilot flying the S-92 offshore in the Gulf of Mexico. I loved it.
Me too. I was in the initial ground school training class for the S92 with the program director from my company and the FAA pilots who would be giving check rides to civilian pilots after the aircraft came into service
Thank you both for your service 🫡
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Thanks for your service friend. I'd like to tell you something but I'm still under big bothers thumb.✌️
@@NSGca SPEAK IT< SILLY
Having been a member of HMX-1 etc., many Thanks for the video. The VH-3D's were wonderful aircraft to work and fly on and it's sad to see them go, however, they served their purpose well. Back in my day, we didn't have the VH-60's......we were still using the VH-1N's which were another beautiful and execuitive looking aircraft. My fondest memories were flying with HMX-1. While I was on Presidental Support during the Nixon and Ford administrations, I did not get to Quantico until the Carter & Reagan administrations where I actually worked on the aircraft. (Avionics) I don't think I truly appreciated how speical that was until after my retirement. (smile) Many Thanks again. (S.J. Rapp, SgtMajor, USMC (Ret)).
I was at HMX from 80-84, H-3's Crewchief and Marine One for Reagan. Returned in 87-94 but got involved in V-22 OT. Late in life I was the AMO for the Presidential Program at PAX River and just retired 3 years ago after 13 years there.
Semper Fi, Leathernecks! (Former C-117D 'rag')
I spend 15 years maintaining the S-92 and I think this is the most reliable helicopter for the president
Little notice is given to your position. But you and your should be proud. I’m proud of you.
This video is longer than it needs to be.
So why are you here?
@@Southwest_923WRtouche!
Exactly
@@Southwest_923WR Because I was genuinely interested.
go make your own video
I worked with HMX-1 briefly. The taxpayers will be happy to know that they were a solid bunch of people, very bright and conscientious.
the taxpayers want the government to shut down so they stop blowing all the money. the fck hell does that have to do with conscientious ppl
I remember seeing the Marine One VH-3Ds on our maintenance ramp when Clinton visited the ROK in 1998. They used our Phase maintenance hangar while there. 😉
Tried photographing it. The green paint job has glitter in it. It shines with a glare, hard to photograph.
Make a recessed concrete pad where it actually sits 2-3 inches below the grass so it's out of sight. Have the 4 corners lit with a blue led on each corner. I've seen a recessd pad before and it works great can't see it from a distance.
That paint scheem looks so awesome, hopefully we get to see the new one in use soon.
'Burning the lawn'? The S-92/H-92 uses the same engines as the H-60, but the exhaust is a few feet higher up. As for the cost? Base price for a flying airframe was $26m when I was there, the rest is due to installed systems and special orders.
They are not the same engine, it has CT7-8's vs the 401. Similar but different but you should know that having been there.
I think they are confusing it with the MV-22. The Corps wanted the next Presidential help to be the MV-22 in the worst way. I'm told that it was incompatible with flying out of the confines White House because of its size and power.
@@Skyhawks1979 actually there is an issue with the 92's exhaust torching the lawn. It is being heavily investigated and at some point a fix will be in place, just not sure when.
@@Skyhawks1979 actually there were many factors that disqualified the V-22. The lawn and surrounding flora were just one huge factor. Others were sustainability, maintainability, transportability and survivability. Its really good in the support role it has, not so much to do lifts.
As I recall the VH-71 had the contract, but the cost was steep and some folks objected to having a European helo flying the President. The 71 is an EH-101.
Canada end up buying all remaining flying examples of the VH-71 for cheap to augment its CH-148 Cormorant fleet
Canada now owns all of the remaining 9 flying examples of the VH-71 prototypes. They are destined to augment the RCAF CH-148 Cormorant SAR fleet
No, the 71s were US101s not EH101s. They were modified in the US by L-M and given that designation to differentiate them from the EH101.
@@ImpendingJoker Well right now Canada is removing the US101 out of the EH101 so that they can actually fly beyond the sight of land without running out of av-gas. These Kestrals were really fat bottomed girls when they left the LM factory and could barely make it from Edwards to the WH and back without generating sweaty palms
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WOW! Thanks for the information. With the redundancies in your video through repetition, and video clips, I was able to learn even more.
I liked the new interior that came up a few years ago. Oddly enough I've looked for a recliner that looks like the seats at 6:09. Any place that might sell recliners that resemble them?
if i was the president i would bring back the Huey, open the doors and fly with my legs hanging out. fun times.
They been flying these for years in the Gulf of Mexico for oil companies. Very nice aircraft.
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I remember well saving the life of The President of Ireland - Mary McAleese on a Presidential Flight on board a AW139 to Northern Ireland for peace initivites, along with her husband and presedential aids X 6, while serving in the Irish Air Corps Defence Forces Ireland based out of Baldonnel Air Base
NEEDLESS TO SAY SOME PEOPLE EASILY FORGET THE MAGNITUDE OF HOW EASY A CRASH CAN HAPPEN !!!!!!
Details please?
@@KutWrite Google
Surely an Uber ride is cheaper? Asking for a friend. 🤓
Sikorsky 92 is a perfect search and rescue chopper as the UK coastguard have shown.
I can definitely see why the VH-92 is cheaper than the VH-71. The VH-71 has 3 engines vs. the VH-92 that has 2 engines! I guess they used that saved money from that 3rd motor for all the needed technology for a Presidential helicopter!
I live across the street from the Pentagon and see these fly over to and from DC almost every day. Most times it's just one by itself, other times (and more rarely) it's two flying together. I always thought when they were flying in a pair that the president was on one. So if I understand correctly, he's not on either unless you see a group of more than 3-5 helicopters flying?
One time I saw it in person there were 4, one of which was carrying Clinton to an appearance, each approached from a different direction
What offensive systems do they have?
I thought the EH-101 (VH-71) would have been a better choice - but it's Brit/Italian - would have been assembled and integrated by Lockheed in NY.
The difference in contract prices was due to mission creep accumulated at the time.
The S-92 does not contains all the "goodies" that had been pasted onto the VH-71 and ballooning its price.
IOW: if the S-92 had been similarly loaded up, the price would have come out just as high.
Not so much. Although we did a better job of capping anticipated growth this 92 is by no means a simple commercial aircraft. The 71 had additional challenges besides cost growth. At the end of the day its finding a balance that is somewhere in the midst of all of the requirements. Nothing we looked at was the total solution.
I USE TO REFUEL ONE OF THESES IN ELTORO,I HAD A FLEET OF REFUEL VEHICLES TOTALL SEPARATED FROM THE REGULAR MOTOR POOL FUELERS ECT,TOTALLY DESIGNATED TO MARINE ONE COPTER
Shorten this by the sequences that are shown over and over and the video is probably half as long!
I’ve seen s-92 land in grass tons of times and I’ve never seen them burn a yard. They will sometimes leave exhaust smoke. I have a hunch that was BS and the Canadian cyclone having cracked tail booms which is very like the vh-92 so they used that as an excuse of why it’s not in service. The exhaust should be pointed up for IR threats.
I noticed the exhaust position too. No way that's going to burn grass... and we saw it didn't in many of the video clips.
So many of these generic-video aggregators blow-off about stuff they know nothing about. The narrator is either a robot voice or an AM-radio hype, like this guy. I suspect they are foreign produced.
It isn't just the exhaust being hot and causing some scorching of the grass, it is also the weight of the aircraft, it is so heavy that the mobile platforms the VH-3D lands on would sink into the ground really bad, and was even causing the boards to break, so they needed to make the platforms bigger, about 3 times the size, and about twice the thickness, meaning they are having to develop even those platforms into being man portable, as they do not have cranes or other vehicles on that lawn
@@dankinusmc1 totally wrong. weight has nothing to do with it, nothing.
There are issues with grass burn from sitting to long in place. The last thing the White House will allow is for the lawn to sustain that kind of damage. As for pointing up, not a solution at the moment. Rememebr, there are blades overhead. Lastly, any issues with the 148's as well as the commercial fleet are tracked and followed and so far are not an issue.
I hope y'all put more than 4 blades on it. We don't need another NH-90 incident on our hands. Especially with precious cargo in mind.
From a standpoint of capability id say the best idea would be to use an upgraded version of the osprey.
Better off with a Merlin.
Amen
Merlin doesn’t lift as much and isn’t as fast.
@@lisaroberts8556 still better tech
@@superwout hahaha No it's not. A lot of people pointed to the Merlin having 3 engines as why it was better than the S-92 but, no, this is because it NEEDED 3 engines just to get off the ground. Once they started adding the mission specific equipment to the US101 it was too heavy to do the mission and they just kept adding stuff and adding stuff till the cost over ran the budget by $4.5billion dollars. The Merlin is to helicopters what the A380 is to aviation, too big and unnecessary for most countries and operators.
Actually the other contender was the EH-101. And at least.a dozen were built but were eventually cancelled and ended up being shipped to Canada as spares for their fleet. Lockheed Martin was the American company fitting the out but they were built in Europe. And they were chosen because they were by far the best helicopter. BUT they were not American so now the President will be flying around in the second best helicopter
Yes, much better chopper. Canada bought these for pennies on the dollar for spare parts on their Cormorant choppers.
Incorrect, the version that was used was the US101.
@@bobvester6448 Actually it wasn't a better helicopter. The EH101 has be plagued with issues since it was put into service.
@@ImpendingJoker US = BS
Sad but Factually Correct
@@ImpendingJoker the initial buy was EH with the intent of the final variants coming from a proposed build site in the US. Never masterialized when we cancelled the program and sold the 9 aircraft and materials to Canada.
I think that they should go with the Sea Stallion. They would have no problem with weight.
Too large for the South Lawn.
0:10 Scorched? I doubt that. Probably thinking about the V-22.
Oh sorry, I missed the end, my bad, nice Vid, hopefully it will becadded soon.
Let the VH-92 laser and I love to use it and therefore customize me the VH-92
237m... are we fricking crazy?
I was a tower controller at MCAS El Toro, Feb 73 to late June 76. President Nixon flew into El Toro on Air Force 1 many times and flew on Marine 1 to San Clemente. I was working the afternoon ex-President Nixon landed on Air Force 26000...
Concrete the area on the lawn and call it a new landing pad.
Ohhhh, so that's why I never really see the VH-92 land at the White House! I see it here in Washington D.C. literally every day more than 5 times a day. I see two of them that fly back n forth and in circles all day as if they are getting their required flight hours and/or testing the chopper out. Instead of it landing at the White House each time I see it. They land it over at Bolling Air Force Base/Fort Mc Nair on the far side next to the Washington Channel and Potomac River split, which is right across from Haines Point! I love watching these VH-92 Patriots do their thing. I always wondered how they would fit on the White House lawn due to their larger size compared to the presently used VH-3 Sea Kings, which are a bit smaller. Now that I've watched this video, I see why they rarely land at the White House. As of right now, I don't even think that the President travels in the VH-92 bcuz I never see 3 flying together!
The current Marine One looks more iconic tho.
I wonder how many parts of the Blackhawk and Sea stallion went into the S-92? On the outside it looks like they combined the two.
Not as much as you think. It really is a very different helicopter using modern technology that was not available when the Blackhawk and even Older Sea Stallion were designed and built. When I went to ground school for the S92 they made it very clear through displays and other training aids where all the menu differences were
None from the Sea Stallion but quite a bit from the Blackhawk. The engines, rotor system and transmissions were identical in the S92 prototypes. It was billed to the US Army as the S-92 Superhawk but the Army didn't buy it, so they added an extra set of bifilar weights to the top, added electronic vibration dampeners, and a plush interior and sold it as a luxury helicopter then redid the transmissions for the off shore market(the results of which have destroyed a few helicopters and killed people), so they had to redesign a lot of stuff under the hood but it is very close to flying the UH-60M Blackhawk just bigger.
@@ImpendingJoker engines are similar but not the same.
SB-1 Sikorsky Boeing Defiant X could have fit the roll of marine 1 comfortably.
In 1985 President Regan would fly in the Huey Helicopter to his ranch in Santa Barbara from Point Mugu NAS.
Reagan. Donald Regan was the Secretary of the Treasury and White House Chief of Staff.
Mostly used the H-3. I know, I made lots of those trips during my time with HMX.
Beautiful helicopter
I mean, how often do those things break down?Is what I really want to know?Are they better or worse than things like bell?
This squadron also uses the Osprey in the fleet...
That's a sexy bird.
Canadian Navy was first to purchase this unit and it has been a problematic procurement to say the least 😢
Give an Osprey to the White House for Marine 1; that should cure our problem
Thank you for Marine One video!👍 Love it
Glad you enjoyed it!🙏
The visuals dont line up with the audio, You are showing the wrong bird while describing another, fail.
does it really matter how good the defence measures on the chopper are. there would be constant air-cap over his entire routes from before the start till after the finish. try getting past the ground and airborne detection and defence assets. there would most likely be at least a couple raptors flying air-cap the whole time. he is safe as houses.
All I know is the secret service gave up on finding how the white powder substance got into the White House. So actually how hard would it be to take down a helicopter we've got things coming across the border that we don't even know. We're a sitting duck.
Jokes on the Gov't... Lockheed Martin now owns Sikorsky (acquired from United Tech prior to merging w/ Raytheon)
If you think they aren't aware of that you have serious mental problems.
The S-92 that was disaster for the Canadians.
Joke is that in 2009 Obama cancelled the contract for 23 British built Merlin helicopters (that were to replace the Sea Kings) in 2017 for cost reasons after 9 were delivered. So he gave the contract to Sikorsky for delivery in 2017 and yet none have been delivered (other than test aircraft).
And they think $4.7 Bn cost is a saving ...
If this helicopter does damage to the White House lawn, then rip out the White House lawn and put Astroturf down instead in its place.! Problem solved no watering no cutting!
Wish they could sort their anti collision light colors.
Usually red is used on the ground and white in the air. So dual colored LED's?
VH-92 does look amazing!
Red is most often used at night and in low light conditions, and the white lights are used during the day. Older helicopters, like the Huey, only had red anticollision lights and white tailtip beacons. You are confusing anticollision lights with strobes which are used to grab attention in the day or night, and aren't the same as anticollision lights.
@@ImpendingJoker I covered them all as anti-collision lights.
Red on the ground, white runway and in th air!
The lawn? Build a permanent helipad, and paint the Executive seal on it.
If its that powerful, replace the Osprey with it.
We need the CH-53 Super Stallion as Marine One.
They have some, usually transporting staff and support personnel. They have V-22s for that too. POTUS usually on H-3 or H-60
@@willie.dynamite.843 Incorrect. HMX-1 got rid of all its Super Stallions many years ago.
@@AA-xo9uw gotcha
Why not use the Osprey?
Make an ELECTRIC one just for Buyden and his Green deal😅😂😅😂
Air Force one needs to be electric also- in fact make the entire motorcade and all of the aircraft electric, this is what Sniffy is trying to shove down everyone’s throats. The down side is that taxpayers money would be wasted for all of this.
so "space force 1" has that been designated to be anything yet?
A JOKE.
If the President flies on a Space Force aircraft, the designation would be Space Force-1.
Remember when Dubya flew on a Navy S-3 to a carrier? That plane was designated Navy-1.
Also if the President is on a civilian aircraft, the designation is Executive-1.
If the President happen to fly in an Army helo, it would be Army-1
I think I made my point. Most folks assume any fixed wing the President is on is called Air Force-1, any Helo he is on is Marine-1 but thats not how it works. That said the POTUS almost exclusively flies in Airforce jets and Marine Helos.
But you are explaining the Marine One yet, you are not sticking specifically to the New Marine One
Giving history is typically done when talking about something new. How else can you see the difference if you don't know about what it is replacing? Not everyone eats sleeps and breaths helicopters like I do.
Hey I have an idea maybe build, oh I dunno a Helipad at the White House?
Already have one. It's called the South Lawn.
If the lawn keepers are so worried about the lawn being destroyed why don’t they just install a helipad
If only based on CH-53K
Just curious as to why the Chinook wasn’t considered as a viable alternative?
The Marine Corps doesn't operate the CH-47 and it's too large to operate from the South Lawn.
Impressive concept
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237,000,000. Insane and built off an exisiting airframe. Let's make sure every state has a piece of the action so congress can never say no. What is wrong with the existing platform? Eisenhower farewell address coined the term millitary industrial complex. Retire as a colonel or a general take a job as a lobbyist or get a job at a defense contractor. Blah blah wonder if it could be built for 236,000,000. Wonder how often it even gets used. Regardless, is a beautiful aircraft.
Will it have a little chair to get 46 up the stairs?
Thank you for sharing.
Let the VH-92 laser
No! The EH101 in its civil, or military versions.
Yes you can design the best huge copter in the world with infinite amenities. But this behemoth, if it is to be able to travel a meaningful distance, it has to have gas station tied to its tail!
And apparently destroys the South Lawn as well ....
A- Why keep showing video of the H-3s formerly used, while talking about a completely different airframe?
B- The engines are set up high on the fuselage and provide no thrust, and therefore minimal heat, which might adversely effect the flora of the Whitehouse. The REAL impact would be from the rotor wash, but that's been the problem with ALL helos landing at/departing from the Whitehouse property.
C- Doubt my knowledge and expertise in this area? Double check my screen name. I was an Aircraft Maintenance Technician in the USAF, specifically working on heavy lift helicopters (more specifically the HH-3C & MH-53H Pavelow III).
Marine One does not fly from the White House to the Capitol- the distance is 16 blocks.
America is good at making things 5x expensive. No offence to this beast though.
They say it’s “decoys” the reality is that the other helicopters are carrying staff and security personnel.
Those are cool, but I would just get in a dirty old van or something after no one even know they sure know when there is 56 limos all with flags on them.
The call sign Air Force-1 is exclusive for Air Force aircraft with the President on board flown by Air Force pilots, Marine-1 for any Marine aircraft the POTUS is on. If the President is on a Navy aircraft, it would be called Navy-1.
A littke know fact is if a President happens to be on a private/civilian aircraft the call sign is Executive-1
Sounds like the same problems with the new AF-1, I’m sure if they spend enough they will get them going. Money is no object in the US.
It will need to be powerful to lift all those extra adult diapers.
Wow. The US government wasted $4.4 billion on the original winner, the VH-101.
I think I got paint ma vip helicopters green
It's not going to "change everything" or change "aviation". It's just a helicopter for the president and that's all it is. BFD!
237 million per airframe is asinine
The most important question is, does it have a toilet?
Nope.
Diaper changing station...
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That math does not make sense. They said the contract was for 1.4B, but also say it’s for 23 helicopters at 237 million each. That would come to more than $5B. Did I miss something?
Their is more than one.
@@greggiles7309 what do you mean? 1.4B would only buy you 6 helicopters. Are you saying the rest to get to 23 is a volume discount? But if that is the case then the video is a bit disengenuous, because the government would only be paying the equivalent of 60M each, not 237M. Good for them, that’s a heck of a discount.
@@davidcarrico3385 It said their was more than one, likely as many as 6 =two on standbye, two being serviced?
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ridiculous price! More than an F-15 or F-22 or Sikorsky CH-53K King Stallion
But it has leather seats, each seat is worth at least 50k, well worth it, presidential but can't sit on cloth.
Well, he used to for decades.
@@col.strayga1389 plan is for it to last a minimum of 40 years.
It saves mowing the lawn
At least right now it has no cocaine in it.
Why is this needed?
JESUS. The copyrighting meanders and drones ON and ON - over the same bullet points. It's too much. Not the first BF post with this annoyance. Oy.
Put a concrete pad for it
Lockheed Martin trying to push their luck charging the Government so much $$$ per helicopter and the Government said F U and called their bluff.
It would be more accurate to say that the VH-92 was based more off of the Canadian CH-149 Cyclone ship-borne sub hunter rather than the civilian S-92
Actually it is a straight up modified civilian variant. I know, I was on the program (retired 3 years ago) and had a role in the selection process.
237 Mio per Unit? Don't get me wrong but thats a bit overpriced and i would say thats not the correct price.i work long enough in the aviation inkl special Mission Modifikation on Airbus and Boeing Aircraft.
I don't think the current resident should be riding in anything that burns fuel, get that pos something he has to plug in, FJB
Did they install a car seat to put Bidet in 🎉
All I see is at the 1:00 mark, Dementia Man exiting Marine One and failing to salute the Marine Guard at the stairs. Pretty inconsiderate of him and a break of protocol. No wonder the doofus can't climb stairs. Too concerned about looking cool with his RayBan aviators.