Cammus really has to improve their distribution network. It's the only thing holding them back right now. This product should be storming the sim racing market right now, but nobody can seem to get them in a reasonable time and quality control is all over the place. I want one, but I don't want to pay nearly $100 for shipping. I can get the CSL DD with pedals and wheel for almost as little as this.
It took me 5.5 weeks from the time I placed my order with Cammus, until it finally arrived. It took 4.5 weeks for Cammus to "process" my order and DHL a week to get it to me. Communication was very lacking after the first week. After 3 weeks, I actually emailed them asking to cancel my order, which they completely ignored.
We purchased c5 couple weeks ago I've not heard a word from them except for a receipt they sent to my email there's no way to track your order I sent three emails out with no replies. We're starting to think that this is a scam
I think it's also safe to say that it also depends on what games people play like if u play arcade racer like nfs and other arcade racers the g920 will be fine because it works on all nfs from underground 1 to nfs unbound
Ever since Cammus released the price on this, I have said exactly this. Fanatec's recent deals look incredibly sus when tied in with this AND the LP8 coming soon... I've been dying to get my hands on one of these to tear down to understand what's going on here. My honest belief is the Cammus C5 is going to be the new G29, becoming a modding powerhouse among low-end sim-racers and trucker's! They're the real ones being overlooked here.
They need a EU warehouse to be competitive. Looked into it and was more expensive than the fanatec bundle in the end. I also wonder what the pedals they offer with it are like. But agreed if they can offer it for 300 eur or dollar it has the potential to really hurt logitech.
@@jdemunter5235 If people can't get them in a reasonable amount of time, the price doesn't really matter much. The projection I was given is 10-20 business days for shipping....which is 2-4 weeks. Add the "order processing" time on top of that and you're probably looking at 2-3 months to receive one.... You can get a Logitech bundle in 2-3 days.....
I was really interested in this wheel as it looked like a DD which I could mount on my gt lite. I found a bundle on their website with pedals for 290 dollars didn't know if the pedals were any good but thought might be on par with my T3pm . So I thought looks good about 270 euro for the bundle, sell my current wheel and not have to spend much to get a reasonable upgrade. Ended soon enough though after transport, customs, vat and kosts I think it was almost 500 euro. You can currently get a fanatec bundle for 399 at your home also 5nm. This needs EU warehouses to be competitive. Shame,
@@jdemunter5235 just bought the base...got tlcm pedals..paid €350...no shipping costs..made my sparco rally wheel fit the moza quick release...( Best quick release out there)
Gotta rethink some critical points of their design. For example the paddle shifters should be bigger, comfortable and reachable at every angle of rotation, but I gotta agree it's an amazing concept just needs to be cured
i appreciate that the shifters are small. People can 3d print their own add-ons to it, and they are totally out of the way if someone is racing without paddle shifters
I ordered this wheel from cammus a month ago. I've tried to contact Cammus about my order but never get any response. Had to open a dispute with paypal to get my money back. Obviously the wheel exists but its a gamble if you will ever get one. You will never hear a word from Cammus either.
I ordered one 2 weeks ago. Emailed Cammus about my order last week and had an answer in a few hours. After a week, my order was still "processing" which tells me they're having problems with production. I'll give them another week and contact them again. If it hasn't shipped at that point, I'll open a dispute with paypal and probably order a Moza R5....
@@aaronthomas6155 I sent one last email before requesting a refund form paypal and I heard back from a rep. I talked to him on the 25th and i just received my wheel today on the 28th 😯. I'm glad I got a response and didnt have to refund. The wheel looks and feels really good.
My second rig is exactly this. C5 and tlcm. Though i have put an after market elastomere in the brake. I can tell you im not slower with that setup and really enjoy it a lot. Main setup is simagic alpha mini and heusinkveld pro pedals.
Unfortunately, I am very unhappy with Cammus' warranty service. I purchased a C5, which developed a defect after just over 1 month of use. Cammus sent me another unit and asked me to pay the customs duties and I paid. Now, when it comes to refunding, Cammus is informing them that the fees are higher than they can pay. I am really disappointed with Cammus and at this moment I am not thinking about purchasing anything else from the brand, and I will strongly recommend to the virtual pilot community that they do not buy either.
So since there's no disclosure in the video that I noticed. With shipping and everything from the website for the wheel and peddles and desk clamp it's actually 450 usd
Oh man, I wish you could review the Cammus 15nm i would love to watch that. Was hoping software drivers and firmware had improved for small details some people talked about.
This wheel is very interesting. But if the Fanatec R2R Bundle sticks around, it's probably still the best option, even for new sim racers. It's only $50 more, and it gets your foot in the door to a huge ecosystem, and even the ability to upgrade to 8nm eventually for much cheaper than having to buy a whole new wheel base. Plus when you are buying Fanatec, you are buying from a known entity, who for the most part have a solid reputation for making pretty good, even higher end with some of their products, sim racing hardware. That's IF that bundle sticks around though.
Sorry to say this. But how can someone doing a serious review say: "sure 5nm is not a lot, but its ok to get you started." I really don't understand that. Have you really tried this wheelbase? Cammus says it has 5nm of holding torque. Fanatec claims 5nm of peak torque. Those are total different things. The peak torque of the c5 is around 9nm and is stronger than the fanatec csl dd. And yes i have had the csl dd with boostkit and i have a simagic alpha mini. The c5 is close to the simagic and superior to the csl dd in every way i can think of. How is it possible that you didn't notice the raw power coming outnof the c5?
For anyone considering the Cammus C5 - Please do your homework. The product is cheap, but their service and support is terrible. My C5 has broken bearings after less than 1 week of use. Almost 1 month later and Cammus have been very difficult to deal with. Reddit is full of users with similar experiences - As I said - do you homework.
We purchased c5 couple weeks ago I've not heard a word from them except for a receipt they sent to my email there's no way to track your order I sent three emails out with no replies. We're starting to think that this is a scam
I play only games like beamng, forza 5 and carx and want a dd wheel is the wheel enough for me? Im not a simracer, maybe would upgrade padels in future.
Always depends on what you "want" from a DD wheel, but in general, it should work for your cases, yes. But there are also many other DDs now offering lower prices (and we expect a few more contenders joining the market around SimExpo this year). - Rene
Hi,I currently race with a Logitech g29 ,do you think I should upgrade to this cammus c5 wheel or stick with the g29 interms of racing I don’t race all the time so I don’t want to waste money 😅
Really depends on the time you invest. If you want more immersion on the driving part -> DD is the way to go for sure. But the G29 is a solid wheel choice for some racing fun every now and then so maybe just wait until you have to replace it? - Rene
I am really disappointed with Cammus and at this moment I am not thinking about purchasing anything else from the brand, and I will strongly recommend to the virtual pilot community that they do not buy either.
I am just starting with simracing equipment and I was wondering, if I can combine the Cammus C5 with a Logitech shifter and Fanatec CSL Pedals. Can anyone help me with that question?
Hey there, most pedals nowadays can be used as standalone items. So as long as the pedals can be connected via USB to the PC, you are safe (just very few/old games that cant handle seperate pedals/wheel anymore). Regarding the Logitech shifter, if I remember, those had to be connected to the logitech wheelbase and do not come with an own USB connection to the PC, means you wouldn´t be able to use that shifter. Hope that helps! - Rene
Glad I got only halfway into the clip before the host announced “PC only.” This is a perfect wheel for console and as a PS5 user, I was reaching for my credit card at the 2 minute mark. Oh well. Who’s playing racing titles on PC with a game pad anyway? Talk about a non-starter demographic.
No simracing focused company has console support. Im pretty sure that simracing on console will fade out or sony will make it easier to give out licenses.
This is not a toy. This is a seriously strong and detailed ffb. Its stronger than csl dd 8nm and very detailed. Thrustmaster tx is a joke compared to this. Even the 818 has flex and is only 10 percent stronger. The c5 is awesome.
That's for kids lol adults don't waste your time you'll regret it save and buy something good everything about that looks cheap the paddles are micro lol ... The fact you suggest people but this is kinda disappointing cause some one will spend money on this piece of junk when they could've gotten a fanatecWhich comes with actual working pedals and bigger shifter paddles more mounting options, after shipping your probably in csl 5nm range again just a much better product
Have you used one or are you just making stuff up? Very few reviewers I've seen have really got one yet and nobody has done long term reviews yet. It's impossible to say yet if this is worth it or not.
Really depends on what you are after. While the T300RS isn´t a direct drive, its a very solid wheel, so what are you looking for, what should the new wheel or ecosystem do better? - Rene
@@OverTake_gg I went with a T818 I got 2nd hand and it's a great upgrade, load cell pedals on the way now and finally going to be fully upgraded hopefully for the long term.
great video. i was about to buy g923 but i think ill get the cammus c5. Thanks for the warning about the pedals. ill try to get the new logitech pro pedals thanks
Cammus really has to improve their distribution network. It's the only thing holding them back right now.
This product should be storming the sim racing market right now, but nobody can seem to get them in a reasonable time and quality control is all over the place.
I want one, but I don't want to pay nearly $100 for shipping. I can get the CSL DD with pedals and wheel for almost as little as this.
It’s something I know they are working on currently, hopefully it will become easier to buy these from a location near you shortly
It took me 5.5 weeks from the time I placed my order with Cammus, until it finally arrived. It took 4.5 weeks for Cammus to "process" my order and DHL a week to get it to me. Communication was very lacking after the first week. After 3 weeks, I actually emailed them asking to cancel my order, which they completely ignored.
@@aaronthomas6155 That's not promising, but does the final product live up to the hype? Would you recommend it? Thanks!
We purchased c5 couple weeks ago I've not heard a word from them except for a receipt they sent to my email there's no way to track your order I sent three emails out with no replies. We're starting to think that this is a scam
@@DirtySallysweetsally So was it a scam
The concept is 10/10, but the look of it is 1/10. It looks like they put a pizza in a wheel.
You’ve got to keep the price in perspective tho.
The wheel looks pretty damn good in person
It would be great if it worked on PS5-with the VR2 headset you would not have to look at it.
Almost like there's an entire high quality 5nm motor in there and specific output is a design challenge in any electric motor
So true😂😂
Most detailed reviews and tips in the sim racing community, a like as always! :)
Are we forgetting about Barry from the simracing garage?
I think it's also safe to say that it also depends on what games people play like if u play arcade racer like nfs and other arcade racers the g920 will be fine because it works on all nfs from underground 1 to nfs unbound
Ever since Cammus released the price on this, I have said exactly this. Fanatec's recent deals look incredibly sus when tied in with this AND the LP8 coming soon... I've been dying to get my hands on one of these to tear down to understand what's going on here.
My honest belief is the Cammus C5 is going to be the new G29, becoming a modding powerhouse among low-end sim-racers and trucker's! They're the real ones being overlooked here.
They need a EU warehouse to be competitive.
Looked into it and was more expensive than the fanatec bundle in the end.
I also wonder what the pedals they offer with it are like.
But agreed if they can offer it for 300 eur or dollar it has the potential to really hurt logitech.
@@jdemunter5235 If people can't get them in a reasonable amount of time, the price doesn't really matter much. The projection I was given is 10-20 business days for shipping....which is 2-4 weeks. Add the "order processing" time on top of that and you're probably looking at 2-3 months to receive one.... You can get a Logitech bundle in 2-3 days.....
@@aaronthomas6155 agreed
I was really interested in this wheel as it looked like a DD which I could mount on my gt lite.
I found a bundle on their website with pedals for 290 dollars didn't know if the pedals were any good but thought might be on par with my T3pm .
So I thought looks good about 270 euro for the bundle, sell my current wheel and not have to spend much to get a reasonable upgrade.
Ended soon enough though after transport, customs, vat and kosts I think it was almost 500 euro.
You can currently get a fanatec bundle for 399 at your home also 5nm.
This needs EU warehouses to be competitive.
Shame,
I've got moza 5 on GT lite....no problems
@sdejong9165 love the Moza wheel does come in slightly more expensive than the RtoR bundle from fanatec does it not?
@@jdemunter5235 just bought the base...got tlcm pedals..paid €350...no shipping costs..made my sparco rally wheel fit the moza quick release...( Best quick release out there)
They are opening up new warehouses now
@@JasonStorm with the price drops of fanatec and moza, I think They're too late...can't even put another rim on it...
For the paddles, I'm sure in the future there'll be some adapters to make them larger. Should be easy enough to 3dprint :D
Eyyyy etsy has paddle extenders look at that you predicted the future!
Gotta rethink some critical points of their design. For example the paddle shifters should be bigger, comfortable and reachable at every angle of rotation, but I gotta agree it's an amazing concept just needs to be cured
In Germany it is still cheaper to get the fanatec bundle than this, just not worth it with that absurd shipping cost.
Yeah it's understandable. Sadly Fanatec only sell their stuff, officially, in Europe + handful of overseas territory
I can't wait for these to sell out everywhere as scalpers try to sell them back for triple the price.
i appreciate that the shifters are small. People can 3d print their own add-ons to it, and they are totally out of the way if someone is racing without paddle shifters
I ordered this wheel from cammus a month ago. I've tried to contact Cammus about my order but never get any response. Had to open a dispute with paypal to get my money back. Obviously the wheel exists but its a gamble if you will ever get one. You will never hear a word from Cammus either.
I ordered one 2 weeks ago. Emailed Cammus about my order last week and had an answer in a few hours. After a week, my order was still "processing" which tells me they're having problems with production. I'll give them another week and contact them again. If it hasn't shipped at that point, I'll open a dispute with paypal and probably order a Moza R5....
@@aaronthomas6155 I sent one last email before requesting a refund form paypal and I heard back from a rep. I talked to him on the 25th and i just received my wheel today on the 28th 😯. I'm glad I got a response and didnt have to refund. The wheel looks and feels really good.
@@aaronthomas6155did they ever ship it out?
@@aaronthomas6155 well?
The C5 and Thrustmaster TLC-M would be a really good and cheap starter set. DD is important, but a load cell is arguably more important.
My second rig is exactly this. C5 and tlcm. Though i have put an after market elastomere in the brake.
I can tell you im not slower with that setup and really enjoy it a lot. Main setup is simagic alpha mini and heusinkveld pro pedals.
Unfortunately, I am very unhappy with Cammus' warranty service.
I purchased a C5, which developed a defect after just over 1 month of use.
Cammus sent me another unit and asked me to pay the customs duties and I paid.
Now, when it comes to refunding, Cammus is informing them that the fees are higher than they can pay.
I am really disappointed with Cammus and at this moment I am not thinking about purchasing anything else from the brand, and I will strongly recommend to the virtual pilot community that they do not buy either.
So since there's no disclosure in the video that I noticed. With shipping and everything from the website for the wheel and peddles and desk clamp it's actually 450 usd
Considering the size of the wheel, I would consider that as a travel, perfect to race in the hotel room, when you are like me travel for work ;)
Oh man, I wish you could review the Cammus 15nm i would love to watch that. Was hoping software drivers and firmware had improved for small details some people talked about.
We will soon!
Every Indian sim gamer is waiting for them to reach India
Paying hefty shipping charges to get this one now doesn't make sense
This wheel is very interesting. But if the Fanatec R2R Bundle sticks around, it's probably still the best option, even for new sim racers. It's only $50 more, and it gets your foot in the door to a huge ecosystem, and even the ability to upgrade to 8nm eventually for much cheaper than having to buy a whole new wheel base. Plus when you are buying Fanatec, you are buying from a known entity, who for the most part have a solid reputation for making pretty good, even higher end with some of their products, sim racing hardware. That's IF that bundle sticks around though.
Sorry to say this. But how can someone doing a serious review say: "sure 5nm is not a lot, but its ok to get you started."
I really don't understand that. Have you really tried this wheelbase? Cammus says it has 5nm of holding torque. Fanatec claims 5nm of peak torque. Those are total different things. The peak torque of the c5 is around 9nm and is stronger than the fanatec csl dd.
And yes i have had the csl dd with boostkit and i have a simagic alpha mini. The c5 is close to the simagic and superior to the csl dd in every way i can think of.
How is it possible that you didn't notice the raw power coming outnof the c5?
shipping cost alone is one third of the msrp of the combo...
In my country its cheaper to buy the fanatec bundle
So out the gate that wheel and pedal bundel will have you up and running if so I’ll pull the trigger and pick this up asap 👀
For anyone considering the Cammus C5 - Please do your homework. The product is cheap, but their service and support is terrible. My C5 has broken bearings after less than 1 week of use. Almost 1 month later and Cammus have been very difficult to deal with. Reddit is full of users with similar experiences - As I said - do you homework.
I used to drive a nissan altima with the sporty package and it had paddles that were about that size hahaha
We purchased c5 couple weeks ago I've not heard a word from them except for a receipt they sent to my email there's no way to track your order I sent three emails out with no replies. We're starting to think that this is a scam
Do you receive it? You purchased it from china warehouse?
When you buy from eurorpean warehouse it shouldn't take longer than 2 weeks.
after 6 weeks and 9 emails since the have no contact number i finally got a refund.
Those shifter pedals might be the deal breaker for me, that looks so unpleasant to use.
Logitech is still the King of Racing sim
Can I use my Logitech paddles and shifter?
was really excited by this, but sadly its gonna be a logitech, im not paying them shipping prices on this kind of product.
I play only games like beamng, forza 5 and carx and want a dd wheel is the wheel enough for me? Im not a simracer, maybe would upgrade padels in future.
Always depends on what you "want" from a DD wheel, but in general, it should work for your cases, yes. But there are also many other DDs now offering lower prices (and we expect a few more contenders joining the market around SimExpo this year). - Rene
does it work in the crew mororfest, and dirt rally 2.0?
Hi,I currently race with a Logitech g29 ,do you think I should upgrade to this cammus c5 wheel or stick with the g29 interms of racing I don’t race all the time so I don’t want to waste money 😅
Really depends on the time you invest. If you want more immersion on the driving part -> DD is the way to go for sure. But the G29 is a solid wheel choice for some racing fun every now and then so maybe just wait until you have to replace it? - Rene
@@OverTake_gg yeh sounds about right,I only race with freinds on the f1 game every now and then so probably the better option
I live in the uk and uk we site has camus c5 bundle for £350
Finally I can win at mario kart ...
I am really disappointed with Cammus and at this moment I am not thinking about purchasing anything else from the brand, and I will strongly recommend to the virtual pilot community that they do not buy either.
Why?
It's very unique
Cammus C5 is 9nm not 5nm. Measure it
I am just starting with simracing equipment and I was wondering, if I can combine the Cammus C5 with a Logitech shifter and Fanatec CSL Pedals. Can anyone help me with that question?
Hey there, most pedals nowadays can be used as standalone items. So as long as the pedals can be connected via USB to the PC, you are safe (just very few/old games that cant handle seperate pedals/wheel anymore). Regarding the Logitech shifter, if I remember, those had to be connected to the logitech wheelbase and do not come with an own USB connection to the PC, means you wouldn´t be able to use that shifter. Hope that helps! - Rene
@@OverTake_gg Thank you for the quick and helpful answer.
They can be used together, as CAMMUS staff will answer.@@kamelofant
@@kamelofant That is what we are here for :) - Rene
I cant even afford that :(
48th like, seen lots about that wheel recently
Will this wheel work on PS5?
i got it, its awesome, but you have to configure every single button
You have to do this with every single rim. Why is that strange?
Glad I got only halfway into the clip before the host announced “PC only.” This is a perfect wheel for console and as a PS5 user, I was reaching for my credit card at the 2 minute mark. Oh well. Who’s playing racing titles on PC with a game pad anyway? Talk about a non-starter demographic.
Sorry! 😕
is that a deutscher Akzent that i can heraushören freundchen?
nice vid btw
Needs console compatibility
how do i use this wheel on forza horizon 5 game ?
yeah,it can be used in this game
I think 5Nm is enough for me I am on Thrustmaster TMX that is 2Nm 😂
5nm is the Holding Torque. The peak is 6-7nm.
@@FellowshipOfTheAviatorZron revied has measured it at 9nm. And i can tell you, i have had a csl dd with boostkit. The c5 is stronger.
Much better if you use the beta software
They just need to get it on console to target the mainstream.
No simracing focused company has console support. Im pretty sure that simracing on console will fade out or sony will make it easier to give out licenses.
i thought it wos cheaper than 350 do
Too small paddles.
It wont cos no console compat. it will die cos pc master race would rather save for something better
shipping wtf is up with shipping
Buy thrust master tx with tlcm pedals.....same price and future proof...this is a disappointment toy
This is not a toy. This is a seriously strong and detailed ffb. Its stronger than csl dd 8nm and very detailed. Thrustmaster tx is a joke compared to this. Even the 818 has flex and is only 10 percent stronger. The c5 is awesome.
What a bad design ….
Logitech still the best
Nope. This wheel blows logitech off the land
That's for kids lol adults don't waste your time you'll regret it save and buy something good everything about that looks cheap the paddles are micro lol ... The fact you suggest people but this is kinda disappointing cause some one will spend money on this piece of junk when they could've gotten a fanatecWhich comes with actual working pedals and bigger shifter paddles more mounting options, after shipping your probably in csl 5nm range again just a much better product
Have you used one or are you just making stuff up?
Very few reviewers I've seen have really got one yet and nobody has done long term reviews yet. It's impossible to say yet if this is worth it or not.
I have a t300rs, would this be a worthwhile upgrade?
Really depends on what you are after. While the T300RS isn´t a direct drive, its a very solid wheel, so what are you looking for, what should the new wheel or ecosystem do better? - Rene
@@OverTake_gg I went with a T818 I got 2nd hand and it's a great upgrade, load cell pedals on the way now and finally going to be fully upgraded hopefully for the long term.
great video. i was about to buy g923 but i think ill get the cammus c5. Thanks for the warning about the pedals. ill try to get the new logitech pro pedals thanks
The Moza SR-P pedals would be a better option.....