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Just got my Lectric 3.0 yesterday. Temperatures dropped to low 40's for highs today and in a few days we are expecting an artic blast to swing through our area, resulting in high only reaching freezing or just below freezing for a few days. I will get out for a ride later this afternoon, , just not sure how long it will last. Totally excited to start riding to try to lose weight so I can get on the transplant list for a kidney. Prayers are greatly appreciated.
You got ‘em.
Enjoy the bike -
And good luck with the transplant!
I got mine 25 years ago on 6/19 and we’re still going strong.
Enjoy your bike and good luck with the transplant too.
Bless !
God bless 🙏 Blessings to you , you csn do it !!!!! Blessings 🙏 🧙♂️Wild Wizard🙏🏼🧙♂️ BE POSITIVE YPU CAN DO IT !!!! 🙏🏼👍
God is with you
Florida has the best rules for e-bikes. Anywhere a regular bike can go so can e-bikes . LOVE IT
Same in California and Virginia. Class 1 and 2 only on trails though. Class 3 bumps up to 28 from 20 mph, and is not allowed on trails in most places.
seriously?! I'm in SW FL, and want to buy one. BUT...isn't there a LIMIT on motor size? tanx for the clarification 🙂
Just get one that looks like a normal bike then nobody will ever know, it's none of their business, plus the cops won't do anything they are busy with more important things and really do not care about a little ebike on a walking trail. What's the worst they'd do? Give you a warning? Give you a fine? All you have to do is pretend you don't speak english, just pretend you're one of the people in this country the laws don't apply to because of the color of their skin.
@@mark7362 Boohoo, another spoiled person who doesn’t understand how laws work
Wonderful. I'm 82, ride a $30 yard sale bike (love it), just got a Lectric XP 3.0 step-through with long-range battery for zipping to the TK-8 school I serve as web and content guy. Favorite accessory: Farmplast 24QT rectangular milk crate which I will attach with reusable zip ties and bungees for that classic form and function. 🙂
AmandaGarden said, *_"...which I will attach with reusable zip ties and bungees for that classic form and function"_*
I, too, use the 'classic' zip-tied milk-crate accessory on my 'grocery' ebike. It's lasted almost exactly 5 years now, even using super cheap "Dollar Store" zip-ties. I'm going to try some really heavy-duty UV-resistant ties I just bought (they're real monsters) as nearly all the ties I originally used are beginning to fall apart after all the UV exposure. Also going to try replacing the simple plastic crate (new it cost $5 and is still in great condition) with an $11 version that can fold-flat when desired...and has a flip-over top. I'll probably remove the top anyway. Since I sometimes have to leave it outside the stores for long periods, I've camouflaged the ebike to look in really ratty, 'uninteresting' condition to try to avoid theft.
@@exgenica Love it! Yeah!
My wife and I tow a 5th wheel trailer. This is relevant because it demands an RV rated bike rack which in turn impacts the number and weight of the bikes you'll be carrying. That said, we have two Lectric 2.0 ebikes that we love! It allows us to explore areas around our campsites, go into town, etc. without driving the truck. The bikes weigh 60 lbs each (with battery) so we got the Swagman Ebike rated carrier and LOVE IT! The other thing I'd like to mention is that both my wife and I got "step through" bikes. We're in our mid-60's and I was concerned about swinging my leg over the back of the bike, especially if something is on the rear rack, and also coming to stops as I've lost my "youthful flexibility." I've met more than one man my age who got the standard e-bike and regretted not getting a step-through, not wanting a "girl's bike." Suck it up gents, it's not the end of the world and at our age, we don't need road rash.
Spot on!! Great advice!
i do not have a e-bike, but i park my $2,000.USD mtn bike inside while on the rd.
Just to give you a heads up. The fire risk is overblown. While it makes exciting news stories there are actually very few instances. Many of these fires are caused by non-standard batteries or chargers or trying to charge 50 batteries at a time in an old New York apartment building. I'm the Admin of Lectric bike groups that have 18,000 users. On Lectric bikes if you use a stock battery and stock charger all will be well. We are not seeing those kinds of issues on Lectric bikes.
I wish to use 3x 12 v lead acid batteries from my tow cart is this possible with lithium battery removed?
Is it as simple as connecting up the positive and negatives?
My reason is in the event of Nuclear war or climate disaster or 1984 Soylent Green a lead acid battery is easy to maintain and make, were these lithium ion are impossible and are almost throw away. I can virtually make a lead acid from anything
@@TopperPenquin lol
Hardly overblown but hey you have to say that. Yes the primary cause is non standard batteries but the folks buying those can't afford your product. It is a very real concern with catastrophic consequences.
Most battery fires are human error. Either modifying the battery, or leaving it plugged in for 17 days or something not recommended. Plug it in 4-5 hours, supervised, and unplug it when the charging light turns green. It’s as safe as your iphone battery if you do it right.
I bought the Lectric 3.0 extended range. I love it it fits perfectly in my Nissan Titan bed without folding it. It only takes one strap to hold it in place. 20 mile ride I didn't even use one bar of battery and I used the throttle a lot. This bike is awesome and I cranked it up to level 3. Super fast bike. I usually ride on level 2.
I had my bike stolen. I didn't get the serial number off it and now I can't get any coverage to get a replacement for my Electra. Please note serial and keep order paperwork. Loved my Ebike
I bought e-bike insurance even.
We started with EJoe Swan ebikes and loved them. We added Redshift seat suspension and it was a game changer for riding on dirt roads. I have recently switched to a recumbent trike with e-assist and am wishing I had known about these years ago! I absolutely love how you ride - like in your recliner and no chance of falling over unless you are really, really reckless. You can go as slow as you want, uphill or whatever and can still keep your feet on the pedals since there are 3 very stable wheels under you.
That is awesome!
,zss
Wow good point. I have never tried one of those Recumbent bikes. Now after reading your thread I want to try one.
Thanks for taking the time to put together all this info. However, I must disagree with the pricing comment - specifically that a higher price gives more luxurious accessories or features. I've find that a higher price most of the time gives higher quality components. I recommend that a person spends as much as their budget allows to get the better quality components. This provides more durability and less problems when riding. Thanks again for the video and safe riding to all.
As a new Lectric owner of a XP 3.0 , I found your video to be very informative. Thank you guys for taking the time to spread your knowledge to us newbies on the scene.
We have the 2.0 bikes and really love them, really enjoy the shocks and comfort seat but the best upgrade for us was the Sena Pi helmet intercom. We went with them because you can move them from one helmet to another and they work great so if a helmet wears out just move them to another one.
I have had an XP1 since July 2020. Has the 4 inch tires, and I ordered a suspension seat post when I got it. Changed out the pedals soon after I started riding it, because my feet were slipping off while riding. Also replaced the bars with ones that curve back some, and are a bit wider; this feels more in control to me. I don't ride at night, but bought a bar mounted much brighter rechargeable light for rare occasions.
On rough trails, I learned to lower air pressure so I won't get beat to death by the bumps. This bike is great for gravel and dirt surfaces with the knobby 4 inch tires, but it tends to be a bit of a pavement queen when it comes to ride comfort. Unlike many, I have not changed the seat, this may be because of many miles of pedal bike riding with a skinny saddle that I got used to.
It doesn't hurt to be a bit paranoid about the battery, but I charge mine in the bike inside my shed; just plug it in, watch the light go from green to red (charging), and come back next day to see the light is green again. Once the battery is charged, the charger turns off and the battery will NOT continue to charge. You could leave it plugged in for a week, and it would be fine. I do disconnect the charger when I see the light is green, but it may be 12 to 48 hours after I start the charge. I tell this to people all the time, but all the anti-EV hate speech does rub off on people. Don't bother to argue over this; do your own thing and I will do mine.
Nice report and review of the various models offered now. If I need to replace my XP1 I will probably go with the 3; it has some nice upgrades.
If you need parts or service, Lectric has world class customer service. I haven't needed much, but they have responded when I reached out, and provided fabulous response.
I have COPD and without my E bike I'd be stuck at the camp site unless I drove someplace. Even when I'm at home I can run down and get the mail, take a 15 mile ride to just get out of the house. I set mine to power level 2 and force myself to do some peddling so rigor mortis does not set in. :)
I love that you are able to get out on your ebike!!
We bought RadRover 6+ (Step-Thru) bikes to use on our RV travels. We just returned from a trip to Charleston and rode around most of the historic parts which was much better than walking around. The larger tires made the cobblestone streets passable. We use a Hollywood bike rack that works well, although the new design with ramps and clamp connectors for the bike would work better since they are quite heavy. Must haves: Sena bike helmets with comms, Ibera rear racks and bags, and Kryptolok folding bike locks. We also cover both bikes with an XXL ProBike cover.
Thank you for discussing the need wear a helmet. It all happened so fast! Following my road bike accident at an unbanked 90 degree turn in the trail and the asphalt slide at 27 MPH, I didn't think my head was involved until I saw my helmet the next day with both pebbly imprint from the impact and slide scrapes. The helmet saved me. 15 miles out, I did re-route myself and peddle 6 miles home only to find out in the ER that had a fractured clavicle and, of course, a grapefruit size hematoma on my thigh that ballooned the final 2 miles home. Had to live with it for a year as COVID cancelled elective surgeries - and this one was so rare that staff on the ortho ward were coming by to see what the doctor did. (BTW, While this was a civilian doctor and hospital - the technique was developed with the VA that he teamed with for treating military members). While I drool over the Lectric...wife won't let me near a bike yet. Everyone should wear a helmet!
I typically don't bother on the mtn bike, but then I'm not going fast or pushing it. If I do then I'll don one. Always on the motorcycle though, and almost always pushing it.
That is a bummer what happened to you.
My wife and I have Lectric bikes and since we have a 5th wheel, we got the Swagman RV rated bike rack. This is a must if you are putting your bikes on the back of a trailer. We have the Sena helments and identical bike bags as well. The bike bags are great because they can expand out into larger pannier bags if needed, or just be used as the smaller hardshell bags. we also added the Rockbros tube bike bags that attaches to the front tube of the bike and has a waterproof see-thru pouch for your cellphone and a couple smaller bags for keys, wallets and sunglasses. Finally don’t forget a good bike lock. We use a disk brake lock that has a motion sensor that will go off if someone moves the bike. pretty cool.
I spent all day yesterday researching locks.
As a year-round bike commuter for quarter-century, a mountain biker for three decades, and an ebiker for 5 years, I am into way more serious bikes than the ones shown, but am very glad to see this for everyone else. My wife has a congenital heart defect, and her ebike has been a fabulous addition to our lives. I ride roads and neighborhood trails to get to the single-track in woods near me, sometimes on my "regular" free-ride mountainbike, usually on my very similar mid-drive ebike conversion, both are dual suspension, and their 7 inches of suspension front & rear takes all the road bumps away as well as making landings soft after jumps. Yes, 60+ pounds is a lot of weight, and batteries are expensive to replace, but the freedom to adventure and explore way beyond my pedaling limits is definitely worth it.
Fun stuff! Which kit did you go with?
@@elgringoec the bafang BBDHD for better reliability especially when using a 52V battery, as well as more power than the 750W BBS02. I see lots of bikes up to cargo bikes with them. I do not know if Luna Cycles is still offering these kits, but bafangUSA / ebike essentials had them last week. If you intend to ride single-track or uphill off road, get the programming cable so you can get the full power from the BBSHD (1600+W), as well as set the cadence and power levels for the presets. These edrives cannot tell how hard you are pushing the pedals like a factory ebike or some newer edrive conversion systems, so customizing the presets is welcome. Mid drive also gives your edrive the advantage of the power going through the bike's gears for hills, etc. Just make sure that your bike frame and brakes are up to the weight (60+ pounds for a bike with edrive and battery) and power. 8 inch rotor disc brakes are welcome going downhill or just because you go faster pedaling the heavier ebike than a regular bike. Bought used frames on ebay, first bike frame for this ebike conversion was a 2007 Kona Stab Deluxe, downhill racing bike, currently using a 2004-2006 Santa Cruz VP Free, both designed for way harder riding than I'll ever do. Lots of youtube videos showing basic BBSHD/BBS02 installation mostly on basic bikes. Enjoy the project.
@@davebrown9725
Excellent info, thank you Dave! I've had in mind for a long time to kit out a bike. I figured I'll look for a donor bike but this component approach is looking favorable for optimizing componentry. Some younger enthusiast on RUclips was touting the 02 over the HD, can't recall why now. There's also some other kits like Bosch that look nice but I haven't seen anyone like project farm do in-depth analysis and testing of the options to suss out major advantages and flaws of various offerings. If I remember, the main weakness of banfang is a plastic drive gear, though easily replaceable. I'd like to see a controllable (lock/unlock) hub freewheel and accompanying regenerative braking but I haven't seen anyone in "the scene" mention such an idea. I'd like to have full suspension so I can enjoy tackling the woods trails that I enjoy on my MTB for exercise. I've become adverse to the jarring of hardtails in my advanced age. I know I'm asking for a lot which is why I vacillate with ideas including the possibility of something like the sur-ron. Except then I can't go where I need the benefit of looking like a regular bicycle in the eyes of "Karens". I also want bikes I can put my grandkids on to develop their riding skill and enjoyment. I don't really know exactly what I'm looking for so I'm hesitant to dump a bunch of money into something I'm unsure of. I just know it's exciting and I want to get into it. Thanks again Dave, you got me thinking!
My wife weighs 87 lbs and rides a Harley Sportster and she couldn't understand the talk about an Electric bike being referred to as heavy. I laughed at her and explained that everyone doesn't have motorcycle experience. Great vids :)
The weight comes into account mostly when trying to wrangle the thing onto a rack, if you run out of juice or if your ebike motor doesn't have enough torque to conquer that steep hill. There's not pedaling on a sportster :). That being said, if you're used to handling a heavy motorcycle, an ebike will be a breeze indeed!
We recently purchased the Velotric Discover 1 but have only been able to ride them once since their arrival. Took about 45 minutes each to assemble and both batteries were charged by the time I got both of them put together. Being a former smoker I suffer from COPD and even after only one ride, I can tell I will be able to get out and "exercise" on the bike more than I would without it. The Discover 1 is a Class 2 bike with a 500 watt motor and Shimano gears. We bought the Hypervax Volt RV Hitch Rack which was almost $300, and the Dual Bike Rack Cover from Formosa Covers. Since we both got the step through models of the e-bikes I had to purchase two Deluxe Bar Adapters from Swagman to secure the bikes to the bike rack. The only thing left is deciding on a lock/locks for security. Thanks for the informative Vlog and hope to see you on a trail sometime!
I just bought Lectric ebikes and waiting for them to arrive (early surprise Christmas give for my husband). Thanks for the review!
I have the Lectric 2.0 model. My favorite add-on, are the mirrors that attach to the end of the handle bars. The mirrors get knocked around every time I store the bike but are easy to adjust before I begin to ride. The mirrors allow me to see behind me for runners, bikes or cars coming up while riding. I find if you setup the display to show "Current", you get an idea of how much the battery is adding assist versus you pedaling completely on your own. I usually set the assist at "2" and then try to keep the current number below 3. This way the bike ride feels like I am ridding down hill and I still get a reasonable workout.
I thing I would add to your safety tips, always turn down the peddle assist to 1 and down shift the gears to first or second when coming to a stop. If the assist is at a higher number you will get a surprise when the motor kicks in when you take off. Having the gears set to first or second allows for a smoother "take-off" and maintain control of the bike when there are obstacles that must be observed (bushes, people, share turns, etc.).
As for the "Big daddy" bike I am not convinced the double battery is truly needed. I offend ride 20 miles per ride and only charge the batter every second or third day. I am sure off-road trails will consume more battery but I have not had that experience as of yet. I have pasted the mountain preserve here in Phoenix that is only a couple of miles and then back of trails or the street.
Jim
This is not mentioned, but viewers should be aware that the classification system they are describing (Class 1, 2, and 3) is NOT standardized or codified in the US. Manufacturers create their own definitions. And regulatory agencies (ie, state law, Park Service regulations, BLM, US Forest Service, local municipalities, etc.) are creating their own definitions and building rules/regulations around their made-up definitions. In my state (Oregon), state law does not mention the class system at all, but excludes certain e-bikes from motor vehicle laws based on power and maximum assisted speed. Their definition most closely matches “Class 1” (low power and assist cuts off at 20mph). Anything else is considered a motor vehicle and subject to motor vehicle laws. In my community, there are much more stringent rules about e-bikes than State law…and that is perfectly legal. There are also communities that are banning e-bikes altogether. So, as is mentioned, you really need to do your research IN ADVANCE before assuming it’s OK to ride your e-bike in a particular location. Consequences of violating rules can include tickets/fines, as are mentioned, but also be aware that your insurance company will not respond to a claim if you’re riding “illegally.” If you have repair/replacement insurance and/or liability insurance for your e-bikes, this is important to know. BTW, if you think your homeowner’s insurance covers your e-bikes, you should double-check and get it in writing. None that I have heard of will cover e-bikes in the event of a claim under personal property or liability.
Laura,
All good tips that you mention concerning rules and laws. I read the rules and regs with my very common "common sense". Concerning bans on electric bikes on paths and trails, we should consider damage to the surfaces and the width of the trail and the foot traffic. Children dart in front of me all the time on my trike so I slow to a creep when they are present. I also think about the the speeds concerning pedal assist. If I am on an unassisted bike, I can go as fast as I can pedal which with gearing nears 50 miles per hour. I wonder if I hit you with an unassisted bike at 50 if it will feel better than 20 miles per hour on an assisted bike? Speed limits should be the safety valve, not if the conveyance is assisted or not.
Be well and stay safe,
bf
That's not true for California if it has operable pedals is not considered a motorized vehicle...
Each state has their own laws regarding e bikes...
Eh who cares..negligible difference and none can tell small variations in motors anyway
Just throwing gas on the flames, but has anyone looked into how the Disability Act plays into all this clutter. Electrified wheelchairs are everywhere. My doctor wrote a "prescription" for me to have a backup method of getting my Trike from point A to point B if I become unable to pedal it for myself (electric motor and throttle).
Look into it if you are physically handicapped which may require you have help getting home.
As always, be well and stay safe out there.
bf
p.s. Try to not support every power hungry politician and bureaucrat that wants to write rules for you to live by. Retire them!
This was pre electric time when you just rode a regular bicycle. I received a ticket in nyc for walking a bicycle on the sidewalk going in the opposite direction of traffic. I had a flat tire was walking to a repair shop. Sometimes it doesn’t matter about laws and classifications when giving out tickets are involved, you may get a ticket regardless.
our sena helmets sat on the shelf for almost a year and the batteries died. It takes awhile to get Sena to respond about repair. (ours are still under warranty). Also, when using the bike rack, if you put a cover over the bikes it can hide your license plate. We bought a moveable plate holder from Thule that straps onto the bike rack. I cut a space in the bike cover to expose the plate. If you use the rack often, you could end up with a traffic ticket if the License Plate is obscured.
Lectric sent me the 1.0 bike that had a bad latch, and the charger caught on fire. No replacement. Usually, it's best to buy from a dealer so you can physically inspect the bike.
WOW! That is unfortunate. Did Lectric work with you on the issue?
Good video with good info, and fun to watch too 😁. I knew I would be riding in parks and on shared trails, so class 2 and folding were my main shopping points. The bike has given me 7000 happy miles in two years, so no complaints in that department. I ended up going with the RadMini for upgradability, but even when it was stock, I enjoyed it very much. My favorite accessory is a Rock Bros bag with the hidden panniers like yours, and a Nitecore BR35 headlight which has a remote controlled high beam/low beam. Third favorite option is a Suntour suspension seat post which is just wonderful. I take the bike on actual mountain bike trails where not prohibited, though I go more casually than the mountain bikers who are shredding!
By the way, the Pennsylvania DNR announced that e-bikes are now allowed everywhere pedal bikes are, as long as they are limited to 20mph, 750 watts, and weigh less than 100lbs. They specifically avoided entanglement with classes and brands, saying they would rather manage behavior than devices. I think that's brilliant and simplifies enforcement so much, and other states would do well to follow suit. Thanks again for the video!
Tks for mentioning the helmet. The guys all went out on their Lectric bikes one day on a gravel rode near Flaming Gorge and the one guy NOT wearing a helmet crashed due to the Lectric bike handlebars collapsing on him while going 19mph! Somehow his handlebar latch worked loose?! Did not end well :/ Scary and very dangerous! ALL of us after that experience used a radiator clamp around the handlebar folding mechanism for added security to prevent that from happening in future! And the friend that crashed always wears a helmet now!
That's the reason I didn't get a foldable.
We built 3 DIY mid-drive bikes last year. 2 folding Giant bikes and a classic Brodie hardtail. We chose the CYC X1 Stealth motor for all three. The one thing I did that made the Brodie a game changer was to upgrade the drive train with a Box Components Prime 9 Box 2 eBike shifter, derailleur, and 1 x 9 Cassette. I feel like I can climb a wall. Having said that I just upgraded the Brodie to the new Gen 3 X1 Stealth with the newly patented pedal assist torque sensor and it is superb. So smooth it really does turn just about anyone into a Tour de France class cyclist. I also built the best trailer out of a tricycle. Can't even feel the trailer behind me at 30mph. But the new Photon motor from CYC is going to be one of, if not the best, mid-drive motor of choice of most DIY people. My Brodie comes in at about 52lbs. This is important because there is a 55lb weight limit to take your bike on transit here.
Bat box is a battery safety box that you can charge your batteries in that will contain the fire if it overheats, it also filters the toxic fumes.
Another consideration: Where can you get your e-bike serviced or repaired? Most bike shops won't touch e-bikes purchased on line. We ride a Giant Roam E and a Specialized Vado5 . They are more traditionally styled bikes; many people don't realize they're e bikes.
I have the Lectric XP and I took it to Florida in January of 2021. With my bad knees it was great to have it with me. I highly recommend the Lectric bike line. Great info on charging. I'm going to keep a closer eye on it while charging and set it in the yard to charge. Thanks Stacey and Phil.
What about all the rain they get down there? I have a Bosch battery with my new bike. I understand battery safety, but the have no real warnings about the charging and they make the best out there. Yes, with any lithium battery, you can't leave it plugged in forever.
In many places we've been, the number of electric scooters have been growing. Several RVers like them become they take much less room and are lighter. I don't see them being used on most trails though. I see them used in campgrounds or sight seeing in cities and towns.
My experience:
69 here & handicapped, mobility challenged w/dual forearm canes or electric wheelchair.
Huge, 388lb, NFL-size rider. No balance, heretically diabetic.
OK then:
250Watts with mountain gearing totally adequate on my 'Hase' brand recumbent delta trikes!
Twin wheels under rider's torso is an improvement in both ride comfort & traction.
FULL, rolling recliner-chair support!
2WD & Rohloff Hub is the traction and click-shift trike from Heaven, even if stationary.
Ohio reportedly BOTH highest mileage AND largest matrix of bicycle paths in America!
Too many think they need higher Watts. 250 Watts works very well!
250W is legal on all Ohio bicycle paths.
Some need to plan ahead (3-wheels) and beyond single-track, all expensive e-bikes!
Great video on RV travel cycling and safely charging of battery packs!
Gary
AKA: "Jason Stillwater" in the recumbent world
Purchased my first Ebike last summer and chose the Magicycle Cruiser and love it. First thing I changed was the seat and added a mirror, the next thing is a suspension seat post. And as the bike rack I went with a motorcycle rack that also has a aluminum ramp to push the bike on from the side, work's great and for under $250.
It's a good bike but not foldable so is not for me
We have the Lectric 3.0 bikes and love them. When charging the batteries I have the chargers plugged into a timer that will turn off the chargers after 4 hours. I find that is plenty of time to get a full charge, and will prevent overcharging if forget to check on them. SAFFETY FIRST. 🇺🇸
Test Driving: Before I purchased an Lectric ebike I joined the group on FB and put out there that I was looking for someone who was willing to let me test their ebike and immediately found a very nice couple less than 20 miles away in SE Wisconsin. Set up a meet time at a park, tested it in front of them for just a few minutes and I was sure I wanted one. Love it! Also, for me I have bad knees and the more I ride my Lectric ebike the looser/better my knees feel.
Thanks for sharing!
TY for the information. I have a number of large capacity e-bike batteries and have never had issues with overheating or leaving it on the charger. Its generally the CHARGER that gets hot, not the battery...to be clear. It is the same with my LiFePo solar generator that uses a 400w+ charger. That thing gets very hot when used. I use the OEM chargers on all of course, but most if not all by now have smart charging capabilities that regulate the charge as it goes, so that when a battery reaches "full", the charger switches to a maintenance trickle charge mode. You can tell because, yeah, the battery charger gets much cooler. The LiFePo charger does this as well. So I would stress, use the charger that comes with the battery, and don't worry too much about exploding things. If you abuse things, they break. This is the same with batteries. Enjoy your bike!
My wife and I have the XP-Lite's and the Comfort Seats are a must! The shock on the seat post helps make up for no shocks on the bike itself.
We are in our 80"s and 2 wheels are not enough. Wife could no longer get on her bike so we went to recumbent E trikes. Learning curve but she loves hers. Easier than walking but we still get the exercise. Folders are available. We have over 1000 miles on ours mostly on 1.
I put SLIME in my ebike tires to prevent flats. I got a flat tire in the front and the SLIME leaked all over the wheel without preventing the flat. For the front tire I installed a skinny solid rubber tire...no more flats there. I had to soak it in a bathtub of hot water to expand it. Then, put it on the wheel in the bathroom. The front tire doesn't carry much weight, so it works good there. I retained the wider pneumatic tire in the rear to handle the bumps and weight of the rider.
What a great idea.
Thanx!!
We have Lectric 2.0 that we really enjoy. My favorite accessory has to be the Cloud 9 comfort seat. I've never been able to compare Lectric's offering. My next upgrade should be a suspension seat post.
I am disabled and recently bought an ebike to help with my leg issues and to keep in shape. It really makes a difference. Thankfully here in Calgary, AB Canada we can ride them anywhere except the sidewalks. Throttle is allowed, max speed on road is 32km/h (need a motorcycle helmet). On pathways the max speed is 20km/h (i expect this to change in the coming years to at least 30km/h). On roadways i expect them to increase to 50km/h in the coming years. No other restrictions other than you must obey all rules of the road while on the road. Cheers for the excellent ebike video! I use a Gosen q5 plus type 3 (sold by Amazon Canada) max speed 30mph.
Thanks for the info. I just ordered my Lectric 3.0 yesterday and I’m really looking forward to getting on the road!
Hope you enjoy it!
Once I set my budget I shopped around for a folding step through with the biggest battery I could find, giving me the greatest distance. Also added a folding trailer. The combination fits in my RV trunk. Hope that someday they can update to LiFePo, less dangerous. I went main use traveling and fun, secondary use replace a vehicle if needed in an emergency. Like my closest water source is 10 miles at my off grid property, if my well is out and no fuel that trailer will carry heavy water. I also added two very annoying alarms and turn signals with brake light. Suspension and good hydraulic disk brakes are also nice. Love the idea of those helmets.
We just received the Lectric 3.0. We have been on one ride for about .7 miles. It is a beginning on a day weather is not great for bike riding. Thank you for the video and information.
Everyone should know. I bought 2 lectric trikes for me and my wife last July. One of the trikes came with a bent wheel on the back, and the other one had two flat tires. Lectric ebikes sent us a new wheel but I bought new tubes for the tires. Now both bikes have bad rear axle bearings and the bikes are not usable. We have put 117 miles on one trike and 104 miles on the other all neighborhood riding. I sent video of the bearing movement, and noise. they told me I had to pack up the bike in original packing and ship it back 1000 miles just to get it fixed or replaced. I asked for a shop service manual but they refused. These bikes are cheaply made and service is poor. So much for savings.
We have the Lectric 2.0 with the comfort package. On mine I added the handle bar extension to bring the bar closer to me. We will be going to the Tampa RV Show….staying at Lazydays Resort.
First off, thanks for all the links you have available for us! We have two regular sized e-bikes, as folding wasn't necessarily a high priority, as...like you do, our e-bikes sit somewhat high on our Phaeton, so as not to be problematic for our 'towed' hitch system. Our e-bikes are in the 60 - 70 lb range, and I can get the bikes on by myself, with two people it's obviously easier. Our e-bikes are the Himiway step-thru Cruiser, and RAD City 5 plus. They both fit the bill and are Class 2 bikes with throttles. We do have the ability to change from 5 'pedal assist' levels, up to 9 (if wish) basically changing the percent of assist to each level. The one accessory we use is the addition for a cell phone holder, and and on my Himiway I can keep my iPhone charged, as it has a USB port on the bottom of my screen output. I use a specific app on my iPhone for maps and other pertinent information, which uses power on the iPhone, so it now keeps a full charge on some of the long rides. I now have over 1,100 miles on my e-bike, and very much enjoy the ride & exercise! We also have similar Pannier's you have, which we find very useful. I will also mention, when our e-bikes where new, I put 'Flat-Out' inside our tubes, and so far have never had a flat tire! There are some great RUclips video's on the product!
Great video! We have Giants, his is a step-thru big gray one with lots of power, and I have a turquoise beach bike that, yes, I bought for the color, but aside from being too heavy, is the joy of my life. We did the Hiawatha trail, a rails-to-trails 15 mile downhill on the Idaho/Montana border, thru tunnels and trestles, and when we reached the bottom, thought we’d try going back up! So we did! Mind you, it’s only a 3% grade for the trains, but a fantastic trip. I now have a wish list of accessories to get for the next big ride, thanks to your video. The helmets! Whee!
We live in OHIO. We can ride our e-bikes all over the state. We have Aventons. My husband wanted a full sized bike. We haven’t had any problems. However I did pull up the list of where we can ride and we follow all rules. It all depends on what one wants.
My favorite accessory is the basket. I also really like having a water bottle holder.
We went with Aventon bikes, my husband got the Adventure fat tire bike and I got the Level 2. Our bikes allow us to choose how strenuous our ride is. We love them, they have a full color display and you can unlock them to get up to 28 mph. We also have the Sena helmets, the M1. Our must have is our Kryptonite flat folding locks. Happy biking!
After much research, sifting though different brands I decided on the Lectric 3.0. As it happened I was in Phoenix, AZ visiting family. My son who lives there took me to their headquarters/showroom. I had my heart set on the XP Premium so I was anxious to test ride one. After a bit of a shaky ride I asked the sales person his opinion. He told me that the XP was heavier and longer, so he recommended that I ride the 3.0. This model was lighter, responsive and a joy to ride. The salesperson suggested a current offering for this model that included softer seat/ shock absorber post, security lock and headlight upgrades.
My 3.0 is scheduled to to arrive on March 15th. After my previous test drive I'm confident that I made the right choice. Purchasing direct from the Mfg. saved my going though a middleman retailer. This translated to more e bike for less money.
BTW...Thank you for the helpful and informative video.
Happy e biking!!
My wife has a folding e-bike. She is not a huge bike person so it is the best way to get her on a bicycle. If you don’t ride a lot, go with a smaller bike instead, because it has to be stored on or in the rv - just easier.
I could sit here and listen to the both of you talk all day!! Great video thank you very much for all the great information!! Be safe in your travels.
Aaron from Ocala Florida
We have Specialized EBikes that are for roads only not off-road. But honestly we felt trail riding was too rough for us regardless of shocks. Major feature to be aware of is motor/gear location. If located on back tire you have to remove to fix a flat. Not an easy task. I highly recommend Sena helmets. How can you share ride experience unless your bike partner can hear you. It’s also a safety issue so you’re not turning your head to try and yell to your partner!! Also added side mirrors to help see traffic behind you!! Love our bikes. Only downside is hassle of putting on bike rack and cover/bungy down the covers. Total pain in the butt putting up and taking down. But worth it for those hills! 😂 our bikes are pedal assist no throttle. Want to ensure I exercise 😂
I literally tell everyone about the Sena helmets. We love them. We can totally have a conversation without yelling and hearing “What” lol so much fun!
Good tips and tricks. A bit of info on the lithium batteries is that they are not jus tin your bikes. There’s a lithium battery in almost everything these days from you phone to you RC cars, boats, planes and drones. Rule #1 as Phil said, never ever ever leave them alone. Over charging is an issue that could start a fire. Undercharging can be a problem. Undercharged batteries can cause shorts internally.
We got the XP Lites last summer and had a ball with them. We didn’t want to spend too much before knowing if we would get good use from them. The next might be the 3.0.
Only have about 30 miles so far on my new XPremium ebike. Love it! Thanks for the tips!
I recently got their new Xpress.. love it! I upgraded to the comfort seat. It does have the thumb throttle, I like that also, my husband has the Lectric trike and his has the twist throttle. The Xpress has 27" wheels which I really like, it looks and feels more like a regular peddle bike. It does not fold. It is 72" with the front tire, you can remove the front tire giving you about 13'. Lots of good features on the 2024 Xpress, worth taking a look at.
ours say to unplug the ac first when done charging connect battery first to charge then ac.
Wow, what an amazing video as Jackie and I prepare to start using our our RV ( Class A). We are making our first venture this spring to Mount Rushmore. Thanks again for your wisdom… “ Go Army, beats Navy”
Lithium Ion batteries are different from LiFePO4. According to Coastal Solar, LFP batteries will not explode or catch fire. They use very stable chemical compounds. They are stable even at high temperatures.
When researching, look at the customer service reviews. That’d one of the factors that sold us on Lectric. Very helpful when needed.
You are right! Their customer service rocks!
We have the Rad City step thru and the Rad Rover step thru. I’m 5’4” and I ride both of these bikes without difficulty. Both these bikes are 68 pound. We have the Hollywood bike rack approved for ebike weight and RV tow vehicle rating.
Thanks for that lithium battery - I had NO idea and that’s definitely need-to-know info!!
I bought the Lectric Lite to save money and weight, and bought a rack rated for 70 LB. to save money. Huge mistake! When going across bridges on 295 it flops around so bad it looks like it's going to snap off. I have it mounted to a front hitch I installed on my truck and this would make a very bad day if it broke. You also want to factor in the cost for a bike lock. As you know there has been far to many come up missing even while in the campground.
Grabbed the Lectric back in 2019 used it for a bit to commute. A few months later we were working remote. Barely rode it in the past 3 years since no commute to work. Got my first MTB eBike this April and ride that where it's allowed in North Carolina and I use it to go to the office occasionally. Sold my Lectric and got the Ride1Up Cafe Cruiser and that bike is so fun. It can get into the high 20's with just the throttle.
We have the foldable Rad Power bikes that we love. After a long bumpy ride, our next accessory will be the comfort seat and suspension seat post. We would fold them and put the inside the RV but, recently purchased the RV Rider Hollywood bike rack.
We love our electric E bikes brand name Lectric. We bought two of the standard models one black one white and I’ve been very happy with the delivery service and the product although. Since I have gone through a hip replacement I have a very difficult time getting on and off of the standard frame since I am 6 foot four. I need to obtain a step through otherwise known as the girls bike. My bike has less than 60 miles on it it is in pristine condition and I’m going to have to sell it and upgrade. I cannot kick my leg over the seat height that I need to be comfortable to pedal. Thomyt
Phil, Stacy .... I've often wondered why we can't put a small charging system on the bike while it's moving???? Sort of like the old light on the handle bar back in the 60's/ 70's on my old banana seat schwinn... The faster I pedaled the brighter the little light shined. Why can't they put a trickle charger front n back wheel on to add a little juice when your turnin?
Some controllers for some hub motors can be programed for regenerative braking, but may allow the battery to become overcharged. Some mid-drives are just beginning to offer this, But it gets Really involved because most mid-drive systems have a freehub as well as the free hub in the regular bike rear hub. Look for the videos of someone making trailers with solar panels to tow behind their ebike for more power ideas.
Love my 32 pound KBO Hurricane Stealth single speed ebike, it has 43 mile range - yes love my $1,000 bicycle, but I did modify it to remove 5 pounds. I also did carry mine up and down the 3 flights of stairs while I was commuting to and from work. Retired now it is great on road pavement and hard packed earth with its 28mm 700 tires. My ebike is slower than my carbon fiber road bikes that are much faster on hills and the flats without electric assist. But sometimes I do not want to sweat, so use a ebike for grocery, and completing other errand trips, so I take the almost 30 pound eBike instead of a fancy 17 pound road bike. If I was well funded, I would have purchased a 24 pound Carbon Fiber Ribble eBike, maybe an Orbea Gain or the next 23 pound major bicycle manufacture endeavor into lightweight eBike. I love this style eBike that is often confused their road bikes, because the batteries are buried in the downtubes and they do not have all the weighty suspension parts or cut off blood flow to the nether regions with overstuffed fluffy bad for you seats. All of my bicycles have front and rear USB rechargeable light sets, and I record all of my rides with a Lezyne GPS unit to look at and analysis my ride statistics.
How about a bike that is comfortable for older people or those with a bad back or overweight. Huge part of our population! You need to review a Day 6!
I just bought the Lectric Trike. It's on its way and i am so excited.
Great Info! Been looking at e-bikes, didn't even think they wouldn't be allowed everywhere normal bikes are....Thank you both!!
I hate ebikes but I own one. When my knee hurts I can ride my ebike but I love using pedal assist. I don't go fast because I like to watch nature and being courteous to others . I have mine tuned from 1500w to 500w which is just perfect for hills and it drops to 150w on level ground. Older and disabled people need to get out and enjoy nature.
Why don't you buy a plug timer and set it to go off when it reaches it full charge.Simple Countdown Timer - 13amp/3kW
Lithium batteries will not charge properly in cold conditions!!! While it might sound line a good idea to charge the bike batteries in the garden shed with snow on the ground, that is a definite NO-NO!!! Even on a Tesla car, the battery needs to be preconditioned by warming it up to charge in cold weather. Tesla does this by discharging the battery through resistors scattered throughout the battery.pack. Most bikes have removable batteries so you can warm it up before charging. So, bring the battery in to warm up before charging. Once it is warmed up to room temperature, you can charge it in the garden shed. Very few people are going to be riding their bikes through the snow, so you can wait out the blizzard. One more thing, if you give the battery a full charge, go for a short ride to take the battery down to say 90% of charge. I am not talking about a Friday night charge for the Saturday rally. Manufacturers don't ship batteries with a full charge to avoid oxidation stress from storing a battery at full charge. In most cases you need a full charge to balance the cells, but that doesn't need to be every time. So, its not a good idea to fully charge your battery before putting the bike up for the winter. Lithium batteries do not behave like lead acid, so the does and don'ts are different.
Very good explanation.
My husband and I have Specialized e-bikes and love riding. I'm glad to see more RVers talking about them and how beneficial they are for the older or differently abled and that they're just fun! What I'm really curious about is how everyone is securing their bikes. They're not cheap and anything on the back of a vehicle is at risk. Note that ours don't fold so putting them inside is not an option.
A good lock and bike cover. It will deter most thieves as they don't want to risk messing with a bike cover and being caught over the bike being a Walmart special. If they can't see it, most times they don't mess with it. The ones on the back of the RV stay covered 24/7, and the one on the back of the Jeep is covered as soon as we park or I take it off and lock it to the other rack.
@@todayissomeday Thanks, that's great to know. I'll start investigating covers!
The route my wife and I went since we already had two Electra Townie bikes was to install electric kits in them. Granted I am a DIY type person but really have enjoyed the end results. I installed Bafang Mid Drive on both of them.
Those vertical handlebar stems have to go. Need to install an adjustable rake stem with the pivot at the base. I could not drive one of those award handling bars.
Great video.
Additional accessories worth their weight in gold: Mirror(s) for safety. A good bike lock. A bell
I have the original XP and love it. Upgraded the seat post and seat.
Wife was not comfortable with the weight of the bike so she got the Discovery X5 ( Similar to the Lectric Lite)
Another thing worth mentioning is the XP can be changed to a class 3 via settings (comes as a Class 2 out of the box )
Thanks for the tips!
Great information! Thank you! I just got my Lectric Bike 3.0 a couple of weeks ago.
Stacy, I am 5ft as well and the lectric 3.0 is perfect for me too! I really like the ebike, it saves my worn out knees going uphill with the pedal assist.
I’m 5’0”….my husband has the Lectric 2.0 which is a great bike, but it’s too massive for me…and the distance between the seat and Handlebars is too far. Come on Lectric….is there anything on the drawing board for a small people?…not for kids?
We just bought QualiSports eBikes, a Volador for me and a Dolphin for him. I've already insisted on helmets which he wasn't keen on, but just yesterday I came home from work and he was charging his bike, and the first thing he said was, "You're right, we need helmets." He wouldn't tell me why he suddenly decided that but I'm guessing he was riding and had a scare, because he's fine. Anyway, it's his birthday today so we are going to check out some accessories. He definitely wants rearview mirrors because it's hard for us older folk to look over our shoulder and keep the bike straight LOL
Good call on the helmets. You can never be cautious enough with the head.
Stacey, It's the US "Forest" Service not National Forestry Service.
As a retired USFS employee it's like fingernails on a chalkboard every time I hear you say it. On a positive note great content as always.
And Phil, feel the wind through my hair. LoL your killing me.
The one that gets me is in the vein... "Smokey the Bear". There's no "the" in his name. Just Smokey Bear.
Excellent episode, Phil and Stacy. We were early adopters of the Lectric XP, original recipe and carried them on the back of our CRV on a Kuat NV 2.0 rack. Great bike rack and easy to use. I just had to remove the battery from each bike so as not to exceed the weight rating of the bike. The Lectrics served us well out west, especially scooting up the trails in places like Grand Teton. I added Cloud 9 seats and suspension seat posts. The folding pedals were just too small for my size 12s, so I added big pedals on mine. Some things we didn't like were the lack of a suspension fork and the straight handle bars. Riding them for a long time gave both of us a back ache. It was also a bit of a pain getting the battery in and out. But for the price, they couldn't be beat. Riding them around Moab was a bad idea because of the goathead thorns. We both suffered flats and trying to find a bike shop that could help us out was a challenge. Finding tubes for those 4.0 tires was next to impossible. Lesson learned--stock up ahead of time. We never did use the folding feature. Sarah has now switched to a Pedego city cruiser. It's much lighter with a longer range. It also has a suspension fork and seat post, as well as hydraulic brakes. Hers is the mid-motor type. The handle bars are also U-shaped and are easy to raise and lower, as well as shift fore and aft. Her bike has seal-sealing kevlar tires. It also looks like a regular bike, so she doesn't have to listen to the snide comments of the jealous bike Nazis. It cost much more than the Lectric but for her, it was worth it. No more backache. Meanwhile, I'm sticking with the Lectric because my butt can only take about about 90 minutes, even with a comfortable seat. It's too much like sitting on an ejection seat for a triple cycle. We echo the sentiments on the Sena helmets. They're a must and being able to talk to each other without shouting or taking our eyes off the road is an important safety factor. And MIPS helmets are definitely the way to go. They've saved my noggin more than a few times while skiing. Happy trails and Fly Navy.
When you put the Lectrics on the Quat 2.0 rack, did you cover the bikes to protect them from rain and road dirt? If so, could you still see the tailights and turn signals on the CRV? I'm wondering whether other drivers won't see my taillights. We pull a Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk similar to Phil and Stacy.
@@billaustin3228 I had a cover for bikes on the Kuat rack but never used it, as it was a pain to put on. No problem seeing our brake lights with both bikes on the rack. You can also just collapse your handle bars down on the Lectrics if you're worried about blocking them. Never had a problem with rain and road dirt affecting the bikes. Just made them dirty sometimes. I did put plastic bags over the electronic do-dad (scientific name) on the handle bars.
@@jackmcgonegal8728 Thank you for the info! Just don't get all sciencey with the do-dad! LOL!
I am researching the e-bikes from Lectric, I appreciate all the helpful info that I didn’t realize, like the throttle and battery info. PS: Loving RV Unplugged and can’t wait for the 7th episode!
Thank you!
I love my recumbent trike - ebike! HP Scorpion. I have not found anywhere I can't ride it. I am not yet retired, but during vacations we go around country to find new trails. It is a blast. I do not have to worry about falling over, We do have a large passenger van to move our trikes. (we don't RV - yet?)
Hey guys, another great video and of course informative. It would seem as though once again, our opinions seemed to matched. We also have a set of the 2.0 Letric Bikes and Sena helmets (Love Both). We purchased them back when they came out, matter of fact we had to wait on them, the additional package of accessories because they were backordered back when they first came out. Watching all of you makes me think I need to get a RUclips channel, so maybe I can get sponsored for some of this stuff. Anyway, I recently contacted Lectric bike because I thought about upgrading to the new 3.0. however, could not justify it for the cost. Not to mention our bikes being so new, I wanted the longer range since I'm a bigger guy. With the double batteries, I thought that would be great. I knew I did not need to upgrade the wife's bike because it would just be too much for her as far as weight/bulk goes. I challenged Lectric bike to come out with a trike. Of course, the cost of that will be crazy if they do, but. A trike is what I would really like to get for my wife. That would be awesome. (By the way, it should not go without saying their company and their customer service are some pretty good people.) Well, guys, as always...
Safe travels and God bless. (I know it breaks your heart that we won't see you in Tampa, this year, but it was great seeing you last year. )
Most important thing to do when buying a e-bike is to buy locally because you're going to need somebody to back that warranty and to fix your bike and they do need fixing at times unless you're a mechanical genius second thing is buy a bike with a chain guard because you will ruin your pants I guarantee you oil stains on all your pants
Another informative video - thank you! I would also mention that these e-bikes can be very dangerous. Get familiar with the bike in a parking lot or a quiet street. When you're starting after a stop sign or red light, they can really take off if you're on a higher level pedal assist, so I always keep that in mind if I'm on a busy street or trail. I love my Lectric XP3.0!
Just have to be smarter than the equipment you’re operating!!!! Down shift BEFORE the stop and the problem will go away!!!!
@@soulmanm12954 Indeed!
Great info. Looking at the 3.0. Bunch of rules for e bikes is such a commentary on society. Pass one law that says don't ride like an idiot. Recently saw Hoover Dam and walked away depressed. Look what we used to be able to accomplish. Navy lost in OT bummer! Keep up the great work. I so remember the day my twin Grandbabies were born and now the are both first year college students. How did that happen?
I went with addmotor they are the only one who had a three-wheeled trike recumbent that I liked. I don't get a ride a 2-wheeler no more
We ended up settling on a couple ECOTRIC folding e-bikes because they were fairly light, affordable and had the weight capacity to carry the kids too.
Did you consider Pedego? I've been looking for a couple of years. It's partly the price and the comfort and fit. The handlebars are always to far forward. I liked the Gazelle and Specialized.The ones I've test ridden have mid drive Bosch 250w motors. And one has Bafang.Some will go over 20mph but no throttle.
I liked the Pedego because they come in different frame sizes and one model has a mid drive motor. The two drawerbacks for me were it doesn't go over 20mph and the close to $4,000 price.
Thoroughly enjoyed your video and the information you both covered were phenomenal. Especially the information about where you can and can not ride. That was very good to know. I just received my Xpremium with the comfort seat package and excited to ride it. BTW thank you for your service and Happy Holidays!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Make sure you pick a company with good service. I have a Surface604 and according to the Facebook group, service is almost non existent. I might be in trouble if I need parts.
Great video, great blog, great Vet gear, too! Really appreciate the additional info and link regarding state laws and regulations surrounding e-bikes especially in relation to Class 2 & Class 3. Keep up the great work, and keep having fun!
What an excellent vid, thanks! Just one error, no throttle allowed on class 3, only class 2 can have a throttle.
I have two e-bikes….one is a thousand watt “log jumper”…made for the desert and outdoor rough riding…and I like it. Goes over 40 mph at full throttle in pas 5, and handles well. The cross bar is a little high, so a step through is what I’ll buy next. The other is a Lectric trike…the xp trike. It’s a class 2, nice to ride in the neighborhood, but a little slow…maxes out at about 12 mph. I would like a little faster speed…up to about 20 mph. The reason for a little more speed is to outrun the occasional dog that wants to come out and chase me…some are friendly, some are not. ( I have to carry mace because I can’t outrun them on the trike.). I think a little faster gearing in pedal mode and pas mode would help. Another thought is maybe an emergency speed thrust lever near the throttle that would grant more speed for about 5 seconds, then return to normal speed…reset after 3 seconds, then use again if necessary. Most dogs wouldn’t keep up for long, and then they hopefully go away. Anyway, the Xp trike is good, but if I have to get another, I’ll look for a little faster model.
Hmmm, i own a Eahora Juliet, 1000w monster that i can seriously go 75 miles and not exerting much effort. This helps me because I tend to want to go farther and not put stress on my two ruptured vertebrae.
But my point is, ebikes are a great value and environmentally friendly. The only problem with them is that they weigh alot, ( my Juliet is around 115 without my gear). Picking her up and carrying her is pretty much out of the question so keep that in mind.
One other thing. When you replace your tires put motorcycle tires on them. They will give you 3 times the distance and a much better ride.