7 RAREST MERCEDES BENZ ENGINES🤯
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- Опубликовано: 30 май 2024
- In this video, we analyze the most interesting and weird engines that mercedes benz has ever built.
From the first car, passing thru the inverted V12 and finishing at the HotV.
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The "kompressor" engine had a clutch that allowed the charger to decouple at low loads.
My dad has an v8 compressor😮
@@quintenvis1265 4 cyl kompressor in a W203 C180k and C200k here lol both are good donkeys
There's more than one, do they all have a clutch in the supercharger pulley?
@@juaneer I am referring to the 4 cylinder used on the C class W202 (1993-2000)
so they had flex fuel vgt turbo gdi in 1935 but mfs can't make it work today?
As a aerospace machinist/toolmaker for fifty years, I worked with a wide variety of materials, including beryllium, and let me say that unless abraded into a fine dust and inhaled, it poses no danger.
The ban was more about punishing Benz and quashing what would have been a VERY expensive (even for F1) technology.
Former Ilmor (and Ricardo) engineer here. Those pistons were an Alumimun Beryllium alloy and therefore not harmful at all. Ferrari F1 liked to make up rubbish to harm other teams when they could not work out how to make their engines work properly.
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6:58 The car shown is not a W116, this is a W123.
But the statement is correct. However the max factory hp was 120 hp with the hi lift cam . Two hundred will burn up the pistons unless you intercooler the hell out of it.
@@dennis-nz5im OM617 was indeed 228 hp when fitted to the C111
thats an se w126 or s or some look it up silly billy
nahh im tripping sorry
@@DLTX1007 was higher boost , different pump and definitely intercooled
Damn, I love the DB605 family. Those BF109s are hella fun to fly in games
The irony of Ferrari complaining about the possible toxicity of beryllium pistons when they all were running leaded fuel which is significantly more neurotoxic.
I had a 73 450SE W-116 Benz with the gas V8. Had over 300,000 miles on it when my hooning finally killed it. To this day one of my favorite cars, sparked my love for German cars.
Suzuki had beryllium piston on their F-1 two-stroke race bikes nearly ten years EARLIER and Alfa Romeo had used beryllium pistons in their 2.9 liter I-6 F-3 race cars circa 1931. Sir Harry Ricardo, the imminent British engine designer and theorist built a single cylinder engine with a beryllium piston in 1908 or 09 according to his book, the top of the piston being heavily tin plated for heat resistance against "pinging" with the low octane (no more than 75) fuels available to him. There are actually THREE "rotary" engine designs described in Sir Ricardo's book "High Speed Internal Combustion Engines" (Oxford Press -1934 revised). The Wankel is just the most practical. Outside the US, Mazda sells a turbo'ed three rotor Wankel with direct injection that cured the fuel economy, oil consumption and emissions issues. Tickling 400 Brake HP, it's competition for the Fairlady, Supra and Toyo-San Altra-Japan's TRUE sports car with 600HP! ($700,000!!!) Sorry folks! No matter what U-toob says, there are NO internal combustion engine designs that haven't been built and MASS PRODUCED for cars, boats or areoplanes! A look thru Sir Harry's book will prove it to you. The book is LONG out-of-print, but a good Public Library can locate a "circulating copy" for you, or fee-pay has them show-up for $200 or so. His book shows all SIXTEEN crankshafts PRACTICAL for V-8 engines, and he discusses the advantages and disadvantages of them all.
This comment just sounds like ranting with all the caps lock, but would definitely look at that book.
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Greg’s Airplanes and Automobiles has it on his patroon
You definitely googled this lol
I've never heard of a hydraulically driven turbo before, that's really cool.
I think it was so if that hydraulic system got a leak the engine wouldn't run out of oil and could limp home
No wonder, because no turbo charger is hydraulic. That's the key to the term turbo, there's an exhaust gas turbine powering the compressor.These here were superchargers.
@@blandpepper2755 no.
A hyd fault would lead to the supercharger failing. At high altitudes, a failed charger/turbo will lead to the piston engine stalling, and the aircraft crashing. Still today, this is one of the most common causes of accidents in GA.
Back then, technology did not allow building a small turbocharger which was reliable.
There were more kompressor engines than just the M113 V8. They also had an M271 R4 with a supercharger, and an M112 V6
The M271 kompressor is actually really common, i see a ton of C, CLK, and E-class cars with that engine.
KompGAYsor
@@maozedong981 are you 12 of something 😂
m111 kompressor is better than the m271. the 271 has mercedes' worst timing chain
Henlo Topias.
Nice video👍🏼 another engine that could deserve mention is the M199 the LeMans race winning engine used on the Silver Arrows Sauber C9. It was based on the production 4 cam M119 V8. A legend in its own right. I’m a fan of the M113K motor 👌🏼
And now 2023 mercedes use renault engine what shame
The 600 was mixed up a bit, so let me clarify.
The DB-600 was a Series of engines, including, but not limited to the 600, the 601, the 605, the 603, and the 610.
The main difference is displacement and power.
The 600 was the smallest, it was developed very early.
The DB-601 was the most used version. It was only 25 liters in displacement, and was used in the Bf-109 E and F series and the Bf-110 Zerstörer heavy fighters, most notably.
The 601 produced around 1400 hp, which was relatively good around the time.
It was also license produced by Alfa-Romeo, Kawasaki, and Aichi.
By that, it was used on the Kawasaki Ki-61 Hien fighters, and the Yokosuka D4Y2 Suisei Carrier based Dive Bomber in Japan, and in Italy, the 601 was very quickly adopted into fighters that used Radial engines before, resulting in the Reggiane Re.2001, and the Macchi C.201.
The 605 was probably the best of the bunch in terms of averages. It was 35 liters in displacement, and produced 1400 hp....on normal operation, but the engine was regularly used on War Emergency Power, where it could go at 1900-2000 hp, which was pretty good.
It was used in the Bf-109 G and K series, and it was used also in Italy, powering the Macchi C.205, the Reggiane Re.2005, and the Fiat G.55 Centauro, the "best fighter of the Axis".
It was also licensed by Hungary, along with the Bf-109G.
The DB-603 further increased displacement to 45 liters, and horsepower output to around 2350 hp.
The Bf-109's airframe could not hold this engine, but the Focke-Wulf Fw-190, which used a Radial engine, could house the engine, and thus they made the Fw-190D nicknamed "Long-nose Dora", with the lengthened nose to house the engine and the tail to stabilize the modification.
The 603 was also used in the Me-410 heavy fighters, and the Dornier Do-335 Spiel heavy fighters. The only notable export was in the prototype Fiat G.56, which was a G.55 fitted with the larger engine, which was truly one of the best piston-engine fighters ever built.
The DB-610 is special. It was just 2 DB-605's mounted in tandem to power a single propeller. It's main advantage was that planes using this engine would have the benefits of a 4 engine design, but with reduced drag. Planes using this were the Heinkel He-177 Grief, and the Junkers Ju-288C. The engine was prone to overheat and catch fire....
You have gained your self a sub, very good quality video, very well put together! Keep up the hard work!
Great video! As always ☺️
My favorite Benz powerplant is the OM-606. Inline 6 mechanically injected turbo diesel with tons of power and countless aftermarket parts available to more than triple the stock whp/ wtq figures. Vendors like Firepunk in the UK are one of the 606 gurus IMO. The power is in the injectors and injection pump. Best part about it is the lack of inefficient, failure prone, restrictive, etc emissions BS. So many turbo diesel applications that have DPF, EGR, SCR, etc have those components fail, catch fire, need replacement, etc and they really cause more harm than good. These parts cost a small fortune, even if you do your own labor it can and most likely will need replacement, maintenance, or cause other things to need attention.
Have a look at the OM366LA 😉
And that it revs so high!!
I hate War. But it is Incredible what stuff they come up with in war. This DB600 engine is Genius.
1:10 I actually saw one of their ancestors drive one of the OG models during Festivities in Karlsruhe
DB engine was also for used Record Breaker.
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Also in japanese fighter “ Hien ”
2:20 "when using low octane fuel, like those available in germany"
meanwhile in germany: there is no gas lower than 95 Octane...
you have dredged up some sweet sweet memories of my days in the automotive business, a 300D engine is one engine that I could disassemble reassemble with a blindfolder, it is absolutely the sweetest engine that I worked on, one piece of information that very few people know that the old Mercedes ZF 722 Transmissions had a rear fluid pump, initially it was designed for Towing in which it will keep the fluid flowing as the vehicle being towed from the front, at the same time it is the only automatic transmission I know of that could be used to kick start an engine, 1980s Mercedes-Benz 300D is the ultimate survival vehicle in which the minute you get the engine going there is nothing stopping it as long as you have fuel, diesel engines could keep on going even after an EMP strike,
I speak out of experience with my own MB vehicles, here is an old mechanic's hint I learned in the old country Palestine, diesel engines sitting for a long time especially in cold climate or an absolute pain to get it started, the use of a propane torch in front of the intake manifold heating the incoming air will Aid in getting the engine going, and the minute it warms up and keeps on going there is no stopping it,
The presidential limoThe Beast has a highly modified Duramax Diesel, that is one way of keeping it going after an EMP strike.
This was REALLY interesting. Keep it up.👍👍👍👍
I love your videos. Keep them coming. Thank you
Cool DB 603 motor. I still can't complete mine in 3d.
Thank you for sharing with us! 👍
Theres plenty of 5.4 supercharged engines, but the m112 E32 kompressor however, only has been shipped with the C32, SLK32, and the Chrysler Crossfire SRT-6
I believe NSU was the first rotary engine. And yes I know the 5 cly Diesel very well taught to Techs as MB Technical instructor. In South San Francisco. I loved going over the Grape Vine in L.A. and have the converted gas engine in GM Diesel try to keep up.
Felix Wankel was one engeneer from NSU, Mercedes Benz , like all others did buy the licence by NSU
Wankel made a fundamental error. If his stator had been a tricorn shape and rotor and oval the tip seals would be static and a spark plug at each corners solves the flame quench issues. Sadly nobody (of note) has considered this change.
@@davidelliott5843 Look a Mazda’s new Wankel design.
Mercedes-Benz is unique manufacturing company.
You forget the OM 601.
That, is the more durable diesel engine ever made
Sealing issues on the deck surface is the only thing that can kill one of those.
In that last video, mounting the turbo chargers inside the V engine reduces turbo lag for the turbo chargers and a good turbo response and I believe this is the best engine Mercedes Benz ever made in the world. I think the only car manufacturer is trying to do the same thing is the Ford F 250 super duty pickup truck.
I believe BMW actually beat MB to the punch with hot V engines with the N63 engine in the X6. From my research, that was the first use of the configuration in a car. I believe the confusion started from an engineering explained video, but I am not entirely sure.
Im not going to argue about who does it best as I only have experience with the S63TU. I would also like to let you know that the hot v configuration is used by Audi and Cadillac.
Anyways, have an awesome day 👍
That Benz is not the first car, not even close. It's the first production car.
Amazing video thanks I ♥️ Mercedes Benz you got my full attention
Straight-6: across the spectrum (Ford, GM, Mopar, Toyota, etc.) has still proven the most durable format (still driving OM606 diesel, with well over 650,000 km)
You should have added the M266/OM640 from the W169 A Class and their earlier forms from the 168. Slant 4 engines with one side of the engine having power output only and the other having the timing chain and auxiliary drive belt on the other end of the motor. That's an odd config right there!
Was there ever done research whether involved engineers got sick from being exposed to Berylium?
no problem unless they suck it up while it's powdered before mixing with the steel
Berylium isnt terrible unlees you get airborn particles in you during machining. Coolant or cutting fluid helps capture it. Many machine shops still Make bery parts for military, electronics contracts today
Beryllium alloy pistons are made of mostly aluminum with beryllium and a tiny bit of zinc and copper and titanium added. The resulting alloy is extremely tough and very lightweight. They use this alloy for propeller driven aircraft engines for the pistons and connectiong rods. 🤓
Nice Video. 😃
But: You showed a w123 and not a w116. 😉
Beryllium metal itself is NOT poisonous. What is dangerous is the dust and swarf generated whilst machining beryllium components. Hence such machining facilities have to be Engineered and run with very strict procedures to eliminate potential health risks.
It is a very useful metal weighing about the same as magnesium volume for volume but unlike magnesium it has a very low thermal coefficient of expansion.
Excelente trabajo, 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 gracias.
Early Wankel engines had a problem with the combustion chamber expanding which meant the compression permanently dropped.
Our 1972 Mazda RX-2 suffered this problem and the entire engine had to be replaced
I had a BMW 550i with the hot v. Aside from coolant line failures near the turbos, it was relatively problem-free and when that thing was on, it was ON. Ran like a beast. Hehe
Yea when I saw the hot V engine my mind jumped to the notorious N63. When it works, it's a monster, when it doesn't, it's still a monster, to your pockets.
@@andorexurix2491 lol, yep, pretty much.
one of the hot v engines has the code m177 which is also used in the aston martin vantage and dbx
From 90 to over 200 hp? Well that's some serious POWAAAH!
Great video it's crazy how much technology changed
7:46 Classic Ferrari B.S. You might be listening to this video right now on a set of speakers with Beryllium tweeters or headphones with Beryllium drivers, or Beryllium might be in your head! dental crowns are often made from beryllium because the metal is light weight a super hard. in order for it to poison you, you'd have to breath in fine dust particles from the manufacturing process. The people at Ferrari protesting "its harmful effects on the fans" probably where walking around with beryllium fillings in their heads as they protested "the poison pistons".
The BF 109 inverted v12 had a cannon firing through the propeller hub. Could you show us how this was done?
the trigger is synchronized with the propeller, making it unable to shoot when the blade passes.
Ah about this, the propeller is actually mounted lower than the crankshaft trough a gearbox (to reduce propeller speed), and the tube for the gun is mounted in between the banks instead of the crankshaft (which would be impossible on an Inline but is possible on a Radial), that is how it fired trough the propeller hub
I think I know what you mean because I wondered how the hell could they bore through the entire engine crankshaft to make enough room to run a 20mm gun barrel through it !?!? Well Like many aircraft engines the output runs a reduction gear that actually turns the propeller it is HERE that the 20mm cannon fires through the propeller !
@@oceanhome2023 the real trick today is try to get the damn thing to work or putting in back together.
@@repairman22 wrong
poisionous piston ? 🤯
Love the content we have a Mercedes compressor is a fun car
Ferrari has to be the most bratty whiny company lol.
Mercedes made the first engine first car and the best engine builder in the world gas and diesel.
Very funny man, yes, the om series is considered the best diesels, especially the om606, but the gas engines, yeah, no.
@@BudderTak0 they did make some damned good gasoline engines though...
@@fadingbeleifs I know.
Not sure why people hate rotary engines so much.
High power, low weight, beautiful sound.
I mean sure they refuse to cold start, are extremely temperamental, and require a lot of care and maintenance, but its not like they are meant to be used in a daily driver or anything.
As for fuel efficiency and emissions, you can worry about fuel efficiency when your done smoking the competition, and the EPA can take their emissions standards and stick 'em where the sun don't shine.
Nice video
BMW also has a "Hot-Vee" 4.4 liter V8 engine
dam 17500 rpm on a v10 sounds sick
I worked on heat shields on the Bentley V8 hot V, it’s a challenge i must say…
Unfortunatly while hot v good on paper it cooks everything in the v to extra crispy
wonderful!
Twin Spark wasn't for safety, it was to increase the flame front, and hence, ensuring no parts of the combustion chambers were leaving unburnt fuel.
Damn the bf109 is the beguin of the twin turboing a car and put nitrous in prius
Bravo......add..... yr.......clever.........cheers
Waiting for a car that has pistons from forged depleted uranium shells
8:23 That's not a "rotor compressor", it's a Roots supercharger.
Now that I think about it, how do engineers prevent nose mounted guns from shooting the propeller off?
So.. a gun camshaft, sorta
At 8:25 the supercharger as shown has a fatal flaw: it rotates backwards!
It rotates in the correct direction and the w123 is my mistake.
Show!
I didn't see anything about Pete's V12 in this video???
At 7:00 that's a W123 dude!
"Where as a carburetor would simply choke"
Was that an intentional pun?😂
Bright !
I like it: 1981 MB 280 e.
I don’t know if Mercedes produced ww1 rotary engines, I know bmw and Daimler may have produced them. It would have been awesome to see a ww1 rotary included here, the concept is so unusual.
Rotarys did no exist at that time
@@repairman22 the rotaries where the cylinders spun.
"The german word Kompressor means compressor" made my day. Thanks a lot! I The word is of french origin
Missed the engine from the Mercedes T 80 - a 44.5 liter land speed world record engine.
When someone British or American pronounce "Mercedes", it sounds like "Mör sei diis".
Like when you ask, what car you drive and the awnser is "Mörseidiis Bents".
I would like to someone crazy swapping Messershmith engine into Miata 🤣🤣🤣
It'll be nice to make a plutonium uranium piston
the hot v engine is in all the 4.0l v8 like the newer c63 and the e63
did this man just say a supercharger but has an image of a turbo
it is a centrifugal supercharger. Similar to a turbo, but driven by the engine. Turbos are driven by exhaust gasses.
The other superchargers are "root Type or screw"
@@repairman22 thank u for correcting me i had no clue that was a thing. thats actually really awesome
BTW, did that I5 engine have a 72° crank?
You might consider getting something a little faster than that 56 K modem you are using.
I remember back arround the 60’s & 70’s but they were arround for longer, that Mercedes made a SOHC straight-6 that was so good that Toyota copied it for the Crown & other such cars. Well the Toyota version of the motor was such a good copy the parts were compatible & you could repair Mercs with that engine with much cheaper Toyota parts.
Everyone says the DB600 engines had “direct injection”. What does that mean? Is fuel injected “directly” into the inlet ports or “directly” into the cylinders. It’s an important difference.
you just describe port injection.. so what is your question. it seems you understand both
8:00 Ferrari Interrest Agency strikes again...
💯💯💯
Now hot v is common
300000 mile engine. Bring that back around
Ferrari complained….. The precursor of how many F1 inventions died…
The most reliable is the v6 with 12 spark plug motors w112
C240 e320 s320 best ever
Mercedes is 125 billion dollars in debt.
The most debt of any auto manufacturer, ever.
vw had more but its not a Problem
The last engine isn't rare, almost every car with an amg badge since 2017 has that engine 😂
His wife made the first drive?? And here I'd always been told his SONS stole the car and took it on a drive before she did her trip.
heard of " Bentley " ? bentley-blower ?
6.7 powerstroke is also a Hot V
Leave it to the FIA to ban a neat idea because an opponent complains that someone is doing better than them. Hell that seems to be the way it goes for many racing sports now.
That's how it's always been dude.
Literally every racing federation has done that
The real irony is now the FIA bows down to Merc like they're Jesus
supercharger and turbo aint the same
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There are some issues here: Technically the French had the first car, it was just ugly and slow. Zeppelins were flying from Friedrichshafen to Rio non stop, running on Blaugas, would be nice to see more if it. Felix Wankel invented the rotary engine. And hey Beryllium is new to me surprised there was not more research done for aircraft use. Messerschmitt's were the best thing.
Felix Wankel did invent the wankel rotary piston engine and not the rotary engine who is sommeting different and was invent by a frenchman in 1896,use in his motorcycles and later in the WW1 fighter aircrafts
Yeah I'm pretty sure piston slap won't release the toxic material into the air. S/
Here is one of those interesting to read comments
Beryllium machines exactly like aluminum bronze
5:55 this is vw engine!
Interesting video, but misleading headline... at least OM617 or DB600 are not that rare. Both had pretty long manufacturing history...
when they appeared, they were both "weird". I'm sure the first time you heard about the inverted V12, you couldn't imagine it.