Not sure I agree with the attitude but yes it did look a lot easier than Marine boot training. Even with my training in another branch I don't remember ever having a weekend liberty off base during the middle of training. Something very strange here.
The Liberty week ends you get after halfway through OCS are tests. If you come back 1 minute late, get drunk, or do something stupid, you get kicked out of OCS.
All Officers (with the exception of Naval Academy Graduates) attend Officer Candidate School. Then after commissioning, all officers attend The Basic School. In total they spend 8-9 months in training before they even go to their MOS School.
You are a clueless ass wipe. OCS is only the starting point for Marine Officers. After OCS, newly minted officers go to The Basic School which is 26 weeks of learning to be an Officer. So 36 weeks of training prior to specialization schools, for infantry add another 13 weeks. So an Marine Infantry Officer would have ~49 weeks of training before hitting the fleet.
This is OCS, not boot camp. The goals are different. The goal of OCS is to commission the best candidates. In enlisted boot camp the goal is to make Marines, no matter how unsuitable the incoming recruits are. If you are physically unfit, they will put you in fat camp to get fit. If you are injured, you are allowed to heal in recuperation platoon. If you have an attitude problem, you are placed in the problem recruits platoon, Once the problems are fixed, they are recycled with the new incoming batch of recruits. There is no getting out. OCS is the opposite. the Corps is under no obligation to keep you. If they think you are unqualified, injured or just want to quit on your own, they will drop you using DOR
@@expandedhistoryyeah I completed PLC Juniors and I will be heading back this summer for PLC Seniors to finish OCS. This video is golden, but it doesn’t show EVERYTHING. Although this is a great baseline to look at what to expect at OCS. What this video doesn’t show you are: academic tests, land navigation, writing essays and signing off chits, hiking, and sleep deprivation
@@lbca81I passed and it went well for the most part. I had some close calls but that was because of my weakness. I’m heading to PLC Seniors this summer
Sorry, we met our DI’s at 0 dark something in the squad bays while performing rack ops when all Hell broke loose, racks were tipping, foot lockers dumping, lockers being rifled through…
24:16 candidate Shapiro a former enlisted was disenrolled and not allowed to reapply. He reenlisted at his previous rank (Sergeant) where he finished his career and retired from the USMC
Fraternities should be allowed to haze like this! Why can't fraternities do this? This was how TRUE OLD SCHOOL PLEDGING made brothers! What's the harm?
Very cool. I always knew the Officer training was very rigorous. But, I still think that they should use Drill Instructors and the DI's should be WEARING THEIR CAMPAIGN COVERS!
Yeah I understand the officers then attend further schools before they go to the fleet/field, but I assume once you do that 10 weeks and get the commission you're basically in unless you get involved in scandal or break the UCMJ? BTW I also did 13 week recruit training so I do understand somewhat the physical and mental demands. But I was an EM. I didn't have the power to indirectly spend funds, sign statutory declarations, sit on a court martial etc etc. That's what I'm getting at, an officer has legal powers and responsibilities, and 10 weeks seems like a really short period of time to gain that status - to be assessed and trainer/indoctrinated to the right values and have the knowledge to understand the responsibilities that go with a commission - even ignoring the fact the 2Lts will have other training before leading troops. I believe for example here in Australia you get a commission after 18 months in the regular Army. (The exceptions special service officers which is for professions like medical professions, padres, lawyers and the like - they get a 6 week "knife and fork course". But they never ever exercise the real powers of an officer, can not command units etc).
Julie Nguyen - I have been through a similar program - enlisted not commissioned. The program I did was 13 weeks at the time. Just because you complete a hard program (and most of it is only hard because it's new) doesn't make you a person who is equipped to make the ethical/moral decisions that an officer may have to make - or necessarily deal with the consequences.
Marine OCS doesn't teach much in the way of "leading." It is a screening program to see who has an aptitude to lead Marines. The real teaching comes later at the 6-month Basic School and later at MOS school and in their units with ongoing training.
That SULE they covered here hasn't changed. 1st increment PLC Seniors Summer 2016 and it was still the exact same SULE, bring the casualty up the hill into a hot LZ
"green strippers" second luies. second time in Vietnam I was was a sgt leader of a 20 man team I had too deal with some of them. some were good some tried to get me and my marines killed.
You have to be in as good condition as boot camp before you get in. The standards they have are crazy tough but it takes a certain level of crazy tough to lead the marine corps i geuss
oh i know all to well. I was on the Island in 2004. I made damn sure i could pass the physical requirements BEFORE going. No way i was going to " fat camp"
6 years later I’ve rewatched this whole show to spot him again 😂 he appears a few times but @ 1:59 you can see him walk in with the instructors wearing his Royal Marines Stable belt
I take pride in the fact that our SNCOs, the senior enlisted, make Marine officers.
Not sure I agree with the attitude but yes it did look a lot easier than Marine boot training. Even with my training in another branch I don't remember ever having a weekend liberty off base during the middle of training. Something very strange here.
The Liberty week ends you get after halfway through OCS are tests. If you come back 1 minute late, get drunk, or do something stupid, you get kicked out of OCS.
victor murillo officer basic training is 6 months
All Officers (with the exception of Naval Academy Graduates) attend Officer Candidate School. Then after commissioning, all officers attend The Basic School.
In total they spend 8-9 months in training before they even go to their MOS School.
You are a clueless ass wipe. OCS is only the starting point for Marine Officers. After OCS, newly minted officers go to The Basic School which is 26 weeks of learning to be an Officer. So 36 weeks of training prior to specialization schools, for infantry add another 13 weeks. So an Marine Infantry Officer would have ~49 weeks of training before hitting the fleet.
This is OCS, not boot camp. The goals are different. The goal of OCS is to commission the best candidates. In enlisted boot camp the goal is to make Marines, no matter how unsuitable the incoming recruits are. If you are physically unfit, they will put you in fat camp to get fit. If you are injured, you are allowed to heal in recuperation platoon. If you have an attitude problem, you are placed in the problem recruits platoon, Once the problems are fixed, they are recycled with the new incoming batch of recruits. There is no getting out.
OCS is the opposite. the Corps is under no obligation to keep you. If they think you are unqualified, injured or just want to quit on your own, they will drop you using DOR
Facts
I tried ocs in 1998 but couldn't hack it and got dropped. I went to PI bootcamp in 1999 and did pretty well and served as reservist. Good experience
@@sangkim7504 good to go sir.
Thank you for letting us comment again - I always watch this every now and then as I prepare for Marine OCS
Mind if I ask when you go?
@@lbca81 I’m at PLC Juniors right now (4th Saturday Liberty). If I complete Juniors then I’ll go back to Seniors next summer
@@uzer141Hey, I’m assuming you made it?! How close was OCS to this video would you say?
@@expandedhistoryyeah I completed PLC Juniors and I will be heading back this summer for PLC Seniors to finish OCS. This video is golden, but it doesn’t show EVERYTHING. Although this is a great baseline to look at what to expect at OCS.
What this video doesn’t show you are: academic tests, land navigation, writing essays and signing off chits, hiking, and sleep deprivation
@@lbca81I passed and it went well for the most part. I had some close calls but that was because of my weakness. I’m heading to PLC Seniors this summer
❤ my dad was a staff sergeant when he retired awesome man Semper Fi always and forever God bless you
You can see they’re wearing the old scarlet Stewart Copeland shorts we had in 87’. Nice
This hits for me. Thank you
Sorry, we met our DI’s at 0 dark something in the squad bays while performing rack ops when all Hell broke loose, racks were tipping, foot lockers dumping, lockers being rifled through…
24:16 candidate Shapiro a former enlisted was disenrolled and not allowed to reapply. He reenlisted at his previous rank (Sergeant) where he finished his career and retired from the USMC
Damn why did he get dropped
@@uzer141 He fought an instructor and the instructor went to the hospital
@@correctionalofficer4lockdo763you are making stuff up. If he strucked his instructor, he would court martialed
Where's the part where they get lost in land nav? lmao Semper Fi
I love my uncle sean rader.
Thank You.
5:40 walt jr
Fraternities should be allowed to haze like this! Why can't fraternities do this? This was how TRUE OLD SCHOOL PLEDGING made brothers! What's the harm?
Boot camp all over gain,Only at a different level
It's awesome how the trainees will outrank the gunnys after they become LT/s
Very cool. I always knew the Officer training was very rigorous.
But, I still think that they should use Drill Instructors and the DI's should be WEARING THEIR CAMPAIGN COVERS!
I wonder how the guy at 0:40 liked the silver bullet?
Trying to go here after I finish my first enlistment.
10 weeks to be commissioned - seems pretty quick.
Yeah I understand the officers then attend further schools before they go to the fleet/field, but I assume once you do that 10 weeks and get the commission you're basically in unless you get involved in scandal or break the UCMJ?
BTW I also did 13 week recruit training so I do understand somewhat the physical and mental demands.
But I was an EM. I didn't have the power to indirectly spend funds, sign statutory declarations, sit on a court martial etc etc.
That's what I'm getting at, an officer has legal powers and responsibilities, and 10 weeks seems like a really short period of time to gain that status - to be assessed and trainer/indoctrinated to the right values and have the knowledge to understand the responsibilities that go with a commission - even ignoring the fact the 2Lts will have other training before leading troops.
I believe for example here in Australia you get a commission after 18 months in the regular Army. (The exceptions special service officers which is for professions like medical professions, padres, lawyers and the like - they get a 6 week "knife and fork course". But they never ever exercise the real powers of an officer, can not command units etc).
jtan163 : If you have a chance to be there for 1 day, you may rethink that why "10 minutes" being here is too long .
This is not kindergarten.
Julie Nguyen - I have been through a similar program - enlisted not commissioned. The program I did was 13 weeks at the time.
Just because you complete a hard program (and most of it is only hard because it's new) doesn't make you a person who is equipped to make the ethical/moral decisions that an officer may have to make - or necessarily deal with the consequences.
Marine OCS doesn't teach much in the way of "leading." It is a screening program to see who has an aptitude to lead Marines. The real teaching comes later at the 6-month Basic School and later at MOS school and in their units with ongoing training.
Michael Sakran - yeah agreed.
Which is why I find it odd to actually grant the commission.
"Foxhole"? I hope he got his chewed for that one. It's FIGHTING hole!
I'm not a marine, but after watching a lot of footage from boot camp and videos like this, it seems like the word "I" is the WORST thing you can say
So you wanna be a stinkin individual huh!?
I just want to say that the thumbnail of this video, looks like the guy is stoned
That SULE they covered here hasn't changed. 1st increment PLC Seniors Summer 2016 and it was still the exact same SULE, bring the casualty up the hill into a hot LZ
GET SOME‼️
i am going to be a marine corps officer imam a sea cadet right now i am thinking of joing the infantry i dont know yet
+Thomas Jackson If you can try to get into Ucoin if you haven't already. take advantage of the trappings they offer
+dan Melgar k thanks
1:14 The Calm before the storm
"green strippers" second luies. second time in Vietnam I was was a sgt leader of a 20 man team I had too deal with some of them. some were good some tried to get me and my marines killed.
14:38 "STOP STOP!" LMAO that guys an animal kill confirmed I feel pretty bad about ISIS if they meet that guy
The DOR candidate is now a Major...idk how this happens
semper fi boots
Have these candidates not been to regular boot camp already?? Seems like they dont even know the basics you learn in Boot
JohnnyRebKy They haven't been to boot camp, Boot Camp is for Enlisted, OCS is for Officers, Probably most of them have never even Been in the Military
You have to be in as good condition as boot camp before you get in. The standards they have are crazy tough but it takes a certain level of crazy tough to lead the marine corps i geuss
oh i know all to well. I was on the Island in 2004. I made damn sure i could pass the physical requirements BEFORE going. No way i was going to " fat camp"
JohnnyRebKy
How are you a Marine but do not know that officers do not go to boot??
There is no "fat camp" in OCS. If you are physically unfit they will drop you after week 4.
Interesting to see a Royal Marine there, I wonder what role he played in the training.
Where ?
6 years later I’ve rewatched this whole show to spot him again 😂 he appears a few times but @ 1:59 you can see him walk in with the instructors wearing his Royal Marines Stable belt
Color Sergeant, runs the physical fitness program.
Do they not fire rifles in OCS??
No, Officers qualify on the rifle and pistol at TBS after OCS. OCS is just a screening school.
Is it similar to boot?
almost. but here you get trained to be an officer.
urra semper marrinez
WTF these guys are really not coordinated at all...
barely black officers I wonder why what's the difference between enlisted and officer?
There’s no quota system. Why aren’t more college educated blacks signing up to serve should maybe be your question.