Carl Benjamin Apologises to Jess Phillips
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- Опубликовано: 26 июл 2024
- 'I do hope she accepts my apology in the spirit with which it's been presented.'
Carl Benjamin joins Steven Edginton to explain why he's offering Jess Phillips an 'unconditional apology' and how fatherhood, and the rise of sectarianism in the UK, helped change his mind.
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Will Jess Philips apologise for laughing at male suicide?
I think you know the answer to that question
she would laugh at this comment probably, wrongly
Almost certainly not.....
I’ve seen that clip. I don’t think she was laughing at male suicide. She was laughing at the idea that Parliament doesn’t have the opportunity to discuss male suicide. I still think she was wrong and it’s right for her to clarify matters and apologise for leaving the impression that she was laughing at male suicide. But stating she that she was laughing at male suicide is an unfair claim.
@@christopherflux6254 i agree , she didnt laugh at male suicide but at this time you can find the clip of her talking on a stage about Corbyn , she was asked why dd she stab him in the back, she joked she would happily stab him in the front if he was there , i found that as distasteful as carls "joke" and we would all do well to start being a little better
Remember when Jess Phillips laughed and snickered, when male suicide rates were being discussed? Vile.
Nope. When was that?
@@e13kid The video is out there.
@@e13kid 2016
Wasn't so much laughing and snickering, it was the rolling of eyes, the groan, and the slumping over the desk like a stroppy teenager.
Snickered is an American term, in the UK the word is sniggered
Jess Philips is a reason why Jess Philips experienced what she did at that stage.
She's the victim of a pervasive ideology. Carl is a victim of pervasive ideology.
Both are threatened by the most pervert ideology based on the least compassionate aspects of humanity.
Yes but if she tries to blame Carl it won’t go down as well.
@@hereticalgames3695Nonsense. People like Jess blame innocent people for their own crimes all the time and win both in the court of public opinion and in actual courts. Apologizing only makes it easier for her to win in both, not harder
The problem is other people are experiencing it as well.
Has anyone found out who they were yet?
She is now experiencing what she stands for ..
They always suffer from their own ideolog, it will continue and get worse and its nothing they don't deserve imo. They deserve to live in the Muslim country they clearly want.
Karma is a Feminist.
Tommy Robinson nailed it in his interview with Jordan Peterson: "if you fight back against one muslim man, you take on the entire tribe". At the root, the free world is individualist, and the East is collectivist.
There is a Muslim/Bedouin saying, "Me against my brothers, me and my brothers against my cousins, me, my brothers and cousins against the world".
Tommy Robinstein is controlled oppositon. Do should not support this grifter in any way shape or form if you are on the British right
yep but they can't fight for toffee and thick as hell
@@davidrenton they're cowards that's the main reason
Tom Holland the historian is good on this. The book Persian Fire especially. The east has never had democratic experiments, only absolutist empires.
She still won't call it out and blames 'all' men
She hates men.
Does she really?
@@randomhuman2595 she can't think outside of her bubble, doing so would destroy her sense of self!
@@The_New_IKB She can and will. Now or later. It's simply a matter of whether it is too late or not.
If she admits who it really is, she loses votes. Simple as that. Maybe after she's done with politics she'll be honest about it all.
Strangely the left never apologize.
That's because they think they are perfect.
They suffer from a state of Dunning Kruger that is a miracle to behold.
Nothing strange about that !
They never see anything to apologize about. There are no bad tactics, only bad targets.
Graham Linehan did. People considered him part of the woke left back when he was going after Count Dankula.
Doesn’t matter. Be better than them. Don’t do the childish, tit for tat bullshit.
FFS! What does GB News have against qualified sound engineers??
I agree 😂
😂😂😂 I mean I guess it’s edgy of a sort
I know right? I'm right here, gimme a job already 😂
They do seem to have pub disco acoustics.
They're all Marxists who have dedicated their lives to equalising and normalising things ;-)
We shouldn't forget she laughed at the idea of men needing rights to protect them against domestic violence... no apologies to her or her masculine jawline...
You forgot her bucked teeth
@@DevlinPlace-kz2kv And her big foul gob.
The Flintstones
A study in female DA
Definite M2F suspect
Will Jess apologise for her obnoxious attitude and behavior?
The difference was as night and day, when Jess Philips was interviewed about Carl's remarks she answered with a shit eating smirk on her face, now however, when commenting on the intimidation used against her in and her people in the recent general election, she looked like she was ready to throw up. That wasn't fake offence, that was real fear. And if anyone should be apologising it should be Tony Blair.
She voted for it, and will continue to do so. Stop trying to absolve women of accountability for their actions.
@@jamesrichards2442 NPC's are not accountable for their actions, you clearly believe this woman has more agency in the world than I accredit her for. Well, good for you, you have not descended to the level of cynicism that I have. That genuinely makes you the better person.
Beautifully put Sir.
So should the clown car of Tory leaders over the years
I kind of liked the sight of her sitting in that room full of Islamic men wearing her red handmaid's tale dress.
Never apologize because the apology is not accepted and will be used as a concession of wrong-doing.
Carl isn't apologizing for some made up, gotcha claim made against him. He's come to an independent conclusion about the morality of his actions, not caving to an attempt to cancel him. In short, he's doing this for Carl Benjamin, his children and for his community.
It's ok to apologise sometimes.
Not this bs about apologising for being white though..
@@rebby11 there was nothing immoral about what he said though
@@vileluca My impression from what he said is that he believes he did. Perhaps it wasn't a major moral error, but it was one that he regrets.
She's horrible.
She’s ok
Nope. She hates men. I am a man therefore I dislike her.
Muslim men heckle her, she says it's not because they are Muslim, it's because they are men.
@@billyb6001 She's a misandrist.
@@BillyRockets-dn8ov a bit harsh
I wouldn't even apologise.
He seems more mature
No one will get this - but well done 👍
@@randomhuman2595He's either a coward or a fool. Never apologize to ideological enemies.
@@AethelwulfOfNordHymbraLand2333 he knows not to apologise to the left. he knows you never ever backpedal, apologise and give in. I think he’s playing a long game hopefully 🤞🏼
@@oliverwortley3822he's going for the Martin bell look, he's starting his campaign for MP of Swindon
She’s a horrible person and doesn’t deserve an apology. Your olive branch will be thrown back at you.
So true. Carl is of course all about Carl. He genuinely doesn't give a fek about conservatism or White Wellbeing.
Doesn't matter. An apology doesn't require a response. A lack of response would further show his moral high ground here. It's on her to apologize now. His conscience is clear.
She'll laugh in his face.
The left has no humility or decency.
It's not really an "olive branch" it's simply taking responsibility for what he sees as a big mistake on his part. As he described, he's not doing it because of the huge backlash etc... that was over years ago, he's doing it because he recognises it himself as a mistake. There's nothing heroic about not admitting to mistakes, as long as you are not doing it simply because of pressure from someone else.
Perhaps you are right, but as Carl said, this apology was just as much for him and to bring more harmony and peace to to our society, even if just within his circle of influence.
Of course jess Philips will reciprocate the sentiment and apologies for her misandry which spured Carl's comments.... right?
Wrong!
But you know that.
😂
No.
Dont hold your breath waiting.
Lol said the scorpion, lmao.
Carl is acting like a naughty school boy, after being taken by the ear and put before the head master. Toxic trout Philips will just see this as and enemy surrendering.
If Frankie Boyle said it they would still be laughing about it now...
Frankie Boyle would have finished the joke. "I wouldn't rape you. You don't deserve it."
Nope. And there is a school of thought that Frankie Boyle is hiding in plain sight, like all the others at the bbc.
He wasn’t kicked off channel 4 for no reason.
I would lay bets on Frankie being exactly what he has always said he is.
@@catherinehume9193 What is he?
@@GrandmasterFerg Yeah what is he? Left us hanging here.
@@ReelfunkyProductions Who knows, someone should come and tell us....that would...fix it.
Northerner here, a lifelong labour voter until last week, when i voted reforn, Nige is our man!
Preach fella , same case for me
Me also. Put country first.
thank you 🙏
I am beginning to wonder if we voted for Nigel or Zia.
@@abductedandprobedrecords8278 what on earth persuaded you ever to vote labour?
Carl you did nothing wrong it shows you have the ability for introspection but I fear she will spit in your face and use this against you forever now
@androidoficeandfire9667. I love Carl. I heartily dislike JP. I am not woke. I support free speech. But yes, Carl was wrong.
@@breaghboo-gc7ub there is more to why he should’ve stayed the course it was 8 years ago, Jess milks it for gain and will still do so after this despite not being scared, she won’t accept it, Carl is not responsible for this harshening as he warned against this so he has no reason to feel newly guilty
@@androidoficeandfire9667 He knows this. I think he’s trying to play the angle of being the ‘better man’ to get into mainstream politics and play the long game, rather than standing on just being correct. I think it’s strategic.
And you dont see how this would actually make Jess look bad?
Youre seeing this through the lens of beating someone in an argument, but that isnt how Carl is viewing it, and as someone who found his joke crass and not as bad as JP and the media represented it, I see this as a major good move by Carl.
@@oliverwortley3822 maybe but in that arena you need to be even more resistant to apologising when you know they only want your submission
If Carl felt new guilt then absolutely apologise but I don’t think he should
Being the bigger man and highlighting a growing issue of concern, fair play Carl.
This was literally him kicking off his 2029 MP candidacy
I doubt that he'll have to wait that long.
✔️
Finally.. Millennial controlled opposition (Freemasons) replace the last band wagon.
Hope so!
9 years I've been watching Sargon,, crazy how much has changed
Never ever,ever,ever apologise to the left...
He is not apologising to "the left", he's apologising to one woman. Carl's demonstrating how a decent man behaves, by apologising when he believes an apology is right, but not apologising out of cowardice or to appease a woke mob.
You misunderstood it completely then
@@JohnDavidSullivan No,i didn't...
agreed
Bullshit if you fuck up take responsibility and prove your growing dont be like the left and assume your right regardless that will never fix things eventually blood will be spilt on both sides until nothing is left and the real enemy can waltz right over your corpses
Notwithstanding the fact that the vile woman deserves no such apology, the righteous man should always take the high ground.
Well done Carl, in putting the developed version of you forward. The world does need a family man version of Andrew Tate, for young men to move their world view into as they grow.
What the hell is he thinking? NEVER APOLOGISE. It is just blood in the water to these authoritarian freaks.
I'm guessing it's part of a larger strategy to make himself mainstream politics viable as the right continues to rise and doors open for him to push his politics.
Carl's going to need a bigger boat at this rate.
@@damarcuscolfer1485 try9ing to change the system from the inside never works, it only leads to corruption of the misguided individual
He's not so much apologising, as calling for peace.
I suspect he sees the trajectory of mainland britain looking more like the troubles of northern ireland.
@@nathanperquin9910 the left changed it from the inside... so this is not true
I can see what you are doing here Carl very fucking clever my man very clever
Took King Alfred 25 years to get rid of England's foreign invasion when six of the seven English kingdoms were controlled by foreigners. Carl is a Wessex man like me. I'm ready to join the fyrd as soon as he calls the witan!
Alright, explain then. Don't give me something like "TRUST THE PLAN" or "4D-Chess!!!".
Edgington and Carl? Edgington interviewing carl? It's all coming together
@@blueberrymcphuckerson9821 I’m assuming he thinks that Carl sees a prominent member of the Labour Party starting to wake up to the Islamist threat and can therefore become a future ally.
Lose the superfluous F word.
Fucks sake, what is the point in this? She's such a horrible woman you had every right to be pissed off and rude to her. Now this just looks like you think shes right. Its not honourable to apologise when you weren't wrong.
She laughed about the high rates of male suicides. Vile.
It is about doing the right thing and showing we are better.
Think of how rape survivors felt about that joke.
We have to show we are better if we are better.
@@catherinehume9193Considering most of them are violated by the lefts imports, (3000% increase since 2014). I dont imagine they give a shit about Carls words.
@@catherinehume9193 At the time many rape survivors came out and said they were not bothered. Also what on earth does it have to do with them?
Will she apologise for her reprehensible comments, doubt it.
"All right we'll have the bad man on our show but we'll do it in an incredibly echo-y room with drab walls where you can see the power sockets so the regular normie will be discouraged from watching"
WHAT???
Nah I don't think so mate. Carl is a big beast to these guys and they'll make as much hay with this video as they can. I think the choice of studio was a mistake though. I much prefer the sofas by the fireside asthetic whatever the topic.
Carl wants to stand as an MP for Reform.
Bonza
Absolutely
Reform wouldn't let him. The media would never stop reminding everyone about it.
Good shout
@@normiedeathsquad40 Nah I think he wants interviews with Nigel and other reform candidates who’ve shunned him. Carl is genuinely underrated on the right, its time we actually unite and build our strength.
Never apologise
Noooo. Never do that. Never.
I certainly wouldn't even vote for her.
The thing is Sargon, you have grown and changed, she has not!
Oh carl....noooo.never apologize to the evil ones 😢
I bet it’s part of his plan.
So much for never apologise. This is a strategic decision because he a) fears retribution, b) wants to set himself up in politics, and c) is setting up a trap - if she doesn't accept she looks bad.
Or he's just accepted it was a dumb thing to say.
@@anon7503 It wasn't dumb though. It was cleverly phrased.
I think he's made a play, yes... although that doesn't mean it's insincere.
@@Daimo83 I'm betting on b.
@@anon7503it was a joke. grow a pair 😂
Carl Benjamin planning in standing for parliament in 2029? Got to start that de-diabolisation early.
Hopefully he will. We all say silly things, even Jess Phillips does, when she joked about men committing su1c1d8
Exactly what he's doing.
I'll never vote for him now. He a sycophant through and through
A couple minutes into the interview I had the same thought. He will definitely be running for a seat in the next general election or before then.
By election for reform. I'm sure he was told to do this, but he does seem sincere, and tbh he should apologize. It was a nasty thing to say and we should be above our opponents not seek to their level.
I loved Carl in Star Trek TNG, the Riker Manoeuvre gets me every time
lol
The apology is it's at very little cost. It's five years after the fact, there's no public pressure to apologise, so there's less sense of having capitulated. Everyone knows there's nothing to apologise for, it was always cynical faux outrage, but we also know that Phillips would bring it up again whenever useful, as she recently did when Truss appeared on LE. The apology takes away a lot of her (and others') power to do that in future, as doing so would make her look increasingly petty.
Correct. Weird to see so many in the comment section apear to not see what Carl is doing here and act like the tone in online political discourse is still the same as in 2018.
Nothing says strong woman like being on the verge of tears whilst screaming that you're a 'Strong Woman' to the muslim hecklers you invited here.
Strong woman my arse. I remember a time when MPs would shut down any hecklers. Strong woman my arse couldn't cope and then had them removed.
Carl is older, more mature and responsible than he was eight years ago. It's perfectly reasonable in a time where rhetoric has massively increased in hostility and lead to several attacks on and even killing of MPs, that he would want this sort of speech off his conscience. It speaks to his character to apologise. Whether Jess Phillips apologises for the vile things she has said is irrelevant to Carl's apology; it is up to her and speaks to her character if she chooses to do the same.
He’s now retracted his statement. So does that mean he now thinks she’s a would?
LOL
I doubt that he thinks that.
Gross comment
Did he? When are where?
Only if global beer supplies have increased.
Having watched Sargon for many years. I see what is occurring here 🤫
Which one?
- Insulating self from reprimand if she's subject to political sectarian violence
- trying to get in Peter Hitchen's good books
- trying to make himself acceptable to mainstream media
- trying to re-enter mainstream politics (reform MP)
- reducing the grudge Jess Phillips will have given her new power and influence
All are good reasons. Which do you think it is?
MPs have been murdered in your country in recent years, which as an Australian I find shocking. Jess Philips is clearly in danger from her own constituents.
Because of her own policies.
She will bring in more of the same.
I've zero sympathy.
Then why did she represent such violent constituents?.
Good for him. It would be nice to see Jess also apologise for her misandrist comments, her open laughter at male suicide and the many insults she's hurled at Benjamin. I didn't agree with Carl's comment when he made it, but it didn't come out of nowhere. That one definitely took two to Tango.
Agreed
Whatever her reaction he now has the high moral ground.💥
@@Jo-sp5cpHe always did. Apologizing for something that he did that wasn’t wrong is just cucked himself out to the left and to the dirty smear merchant media. Now that he’s admitted that he did was wrong, even though it wasn’t, they will take it as an opportunity to strike harder and press their attack further when the time comes. It’s literally just more ammo for them. Gestures of grace towards a foe that will never, ever reciprocate, is indistinguishable from an act of submission and capitulation to them. Because it pretty well is.
Sargon’s talked about this for years.
We’ve seen numerous examples of why this doesn’t turn out well. This was beyond stupid tactically, and morally nothing more than empty grandstanding to a foe that will only use it the more against him.
Beyond foolish.
@@Jo-sp5cp No he doesn't. He is now not only the guy that said the bad thing but a bad guy that admitted he was a bad guy. The left has been running the same playbook unabashedly for the past decade and even longer in a lesser degree. How have you not noticed? How are your wits so slow?
You don't agree that he wouldn't rape her?
Is rape a good thing now? Should I be worried?
Was Jess civil - I hardly think so.
Well done Carl for being the bigger person. The moral landscape of our country has degraded in so many ways, and this is one way that it can be improved.
Wow, Carl Benjamin on GB News, I never thought I'd see it.
He didn't do anything wrong and has nothing to apologise about
He’s being a gentleman , Old fashioned concept I know, but I respect him for it
@@tillyt4054Or is he afraid that now that there’s a Labour government in power there’s more an opportunity for Jess Phillips to settle the score?
@@januarysson5633no because she can’t touch him for a hurty word.He knows if someone said the same thing to his daughter or mother then he wouldn’t like it.He has grown upto be a gentleman .A defender of the vulnerable 👍🏻
@@januarysson5633she will anyway…watch this space.
Wounded narcissist with BPD and Machiavellian traits?
Just watch her…..🧐
@@tillyt4054no, you don't apologize for something someone else started. She needs to apologize first
I have a real fear she's in imminent danger, thing is though is we have been for a long time.
I of course disavow political violence of any kind, but she's fucked around importing and shielding terrorists.
Sadly, she's probably now about to find out.
And it’s her politics which have brought her to this point. Not saying she deserves it and at the same time I don’t know how she couldn’t see it.
Aw she be fine. They will use public money to get her a protection detail its only the peasants and the right that dont get that
@@odiedodieukbizarre innit, a so-called feminist ushering in and defending the worst culprits for female violence.
In imminent danger of what?
How would Carl's joke encourage anyone to do that? He was saying that it was something he would not want to do. If I say I don't want to eat Danish rotting herring, will that make people go and eat it?
I'm glad that you got round to talking about rotting herring because the first part of your message made me imagine far worse
I’m more concerned that he claims he was joking. So does he want to rape Jess Philips or not?
Think how rape survivors felt.
Come on. If we are better we have to be better.
Carl.......NEVER apologize mate... She is a horrible person and it looks like hopefully it might have started catching up with her.....
Paul are you a mzlim if so FO
Now is the time to rise above it, take the higher ground. Trust me it’s tactical
@@janeburke147 whats a mzlim? Cant you write properly? What does FO mean? Foreign Office?? 🤣🤣
Maybe that's one of the reasons he's apologising? He realises that she'd now going through an awakening so better to make amends and become allies? Additionally, he's almost certainly planning to stand as an MP......
Wrong, it’s always worth apologising when you know you were in the wrong, regardless of the recipient.
Never ever apologise to leftists
Ever.
He's not admitting he's dating Jess on the downlow, but he's not denying it either
Eeeew, sicko.
🤢
Weasel polititions, don't apologise.
He's not a politician, he was. He's also getting the upper hand by being a gentlemen. Nothing particularly weak about that.
You miss the point completely
I thought this was going to be a skit
It is. The Cuckalulalot has spoketh!
Kinda is! 😹
Sargon is a cluck 🤓💦💦
She won’t care. She’s far more dangerous.
Apologise all you wan't carl. They're still gonna bring the boot down on you.
Agreed.
Yeah I know it was only a crude joke, something we've all done about our political opponents in the past. I think he's grown enough to know it's about setting a better example. It's not the worst "crime" in the world, but it shouldn't tarnish his other work which is usually done to a very high standard. He's a good man and I do genuinely want to see Jess Phillips on Podcast of the Lotus Eaters so a civil conversation can be had on UK politics.
Totally agree with you until the last point. Really not interested in anything that woman has to say.
@@breaghboo-gc7ub I despised her, but after that election night I kinda feel sorry for her. I think it could be an awakening for her, shes finally seen what weve been warning about.
@@onetwo-in4mh yep she got a taste of her own medicine
@@onetwo-in4mh She brought it on herself and got what she deserved and she still won't admit the real problem. Your sympathy is misplaced.
But this will be used as proof that it wasn’t a harmless joke, it was online assault and harassment.
Really GBNews?! A 45 minute interview where Carl raises very important & very valid issues that are currently affecting our politics & country & the title of the video is simply, "Carl Benjamin apologises to Jess Phillips"?! Do you really not care about the points raised by Carl & others like him? Disappointing!
It’s a useful clickbait
It would be great to have Jess on the show so that she could be asked to apologise for laughing at male suicide rates, as I found this far more disgusting than the joke Carl made
And her attitude to male prostrate cancer victims.
To anyone misunderstanding this; Carl has done the virtuous & astute move here and is trying to be the better example. This is an apology to one person, how Jess Phillips responds will show what type of person she is.
She will not apologise for male suicide
@@EncoreASMR that’s on her. We’re better than them
What the f*** Sargon why you apologizing😂
He says quite clearly.
He's becoming a man of integrity. He's not apologizing to her for HER sake, He's doing it for his own sake.
He’s hopefully posturing for a real play at politics. She is rapacious filth, but she’s in danger & MEN need to realize they are still needed. Everywhere.
Pretty gay Carl, I get why you're doing it, but it's still gay.
There's nothing gay about growing up, taking responsibility, and being a better man. You'll realise when it happens to you.
@MisterFluffyBags Taking responsibility for jokes? Give over, adults go "oh that's funny" or "oh that's not funny" and then move on with no need for an apology. Maybe when you grow up you might realise that.
@@yolanda8563 I'm not getting dragged into an argument over this one because it's just going to take you time and experience. I honestly wish the best of luck to you with this one. You'll get it in the end.
@@MisterFluffyBags I wouldn't even argue with you.
Never back down, never apologize. You folded ?
When we are in the wrong, we apologise.
Jordan Peterson said do not apologise if you have done nothing wrong.
Carl has said why he has apologised, being a father of boys is one reason.
Ha ha ha ha!!! You guys agreed with Sargon’s jokes then when he clucks out you lot lower your tails and do what you’re told making you all clucks in one gooooooooo!!!! 🐥🐥🐥🤣😂😂😭
I expect he will regret this one day.
It won't get the media to stop bringing it up every time they mention his name, and his apology will even be used against him. They'll make him repeat it over and over, to show that he is cowed. And Jess will not apologize for anything. Thus, he is now dominated by Jess. He has shown weakness.
He has done this because of what Peter Hitchens has said to him, but with all due respect to Peter Hitchens, he is 72 years old. He is a man from a bygone, pre-internet era. The terrain of the battlefield has changed.
She's not going to apologise .
Never apologize to those people.
She never cared. It wasn't a big deal to her. It was only a cudgel for her. A cudgel with which Carl just caved in his own skull.
Never say sorry to marxists as a group, but to a single individual you should show you are a good person, and better.
What a e weak excuse.
I think Carl is correct to apologise .
Let’s draw a line under it now and move on , I hope Jess sees this .
Wanna bet?
This will not happen unless the left want it to. Apologising to the left is like cutting yourself in a pool of pirahnas.
But he is a…a….MAN! Eeeuurrgh🤮 the enemy!
The UK is a matriarchy. Jess started it.
will anyone "move on" after this, i doubt it, carls a coward
Blink twice if they have your family?
Listen, I get this move Carl, but she'll never accept the same level.
She'll never accept that her politics has actually allowed this level of sexism to perforate British Politics.
That's accountability, and she is incapable of it.
This is not really about her.
It doesn’t matter if she accepts it.. he’s doing what he thinks is right
Carl knows and is wise enough to never, ever, ever apologise, give in, back-pedal and say sorry to the left - ever. Even if you were actually wrong, and actually mean it. So I wonder what game he’s playing. Trying to become a Reform MP? god bless.
Judging by how much he's simping, I think he's trying to become a Tory MP. He actually spoke about the Conservative Party being the only viable option in an older video.
@@johnnyjohn-johnson7738 He was fully on board with them having zero seats. I'd be so disappointed if he did, the Tories can not be trusted. They will try and find excuses on how they'll totally fix things next time. They won't. Carl has actually been very critical about the Tories recently.
@@frishter Maybe he wants "zero seats" so he would have less competition for his proposed "long march through the Conservative Party". I don't think he had any faith in Reform until recently when he saw how surprising well they did. I forgot the name of the video, but in one he encouraged his followers to join the Tories and get into positions of leadership because he (at least then) saw the two party system as the only way.
I'd give him some credit and say that if he were in charge of the Tories it would be an improvement, but his simp like attitude in this video indicates that he's at risk of catching their cuckservative mindset. Pretending to be moderate and making concessions to play the long game only works for the left, because doing so pushes the cultural overton window so far that it would make a true right inevitable unelectable because acting like a simp (even if it's as a means to an end) normalizes that way of thinking. And the left would say "Hey chuds! even Carl Benjamin the conservative extraordinaire is on board with us on this issue, so you're stepping way out of bounds and should just be locked up!".
@@frishter Yeah, thinking he might try and get into Reform.
@@johnnyjohn-johnson7738 ‘respectability’, backside kissing, prostrating yourself, playing along, humiliating yourself, going along with the narrative is all extremely important to the establishment and the mainstream media. I’m hoping he’s playing along to play the long game and be subversive.
Well done Carl for being the bigger person, I wouldn't hold my breath for a response let alone an acceptance. She will no doubt be cynical, she was guilty of laughing at male suicide and even during her recent experiences, she just attributes her abuse to being from men only, nothing to do with ideology or anything else.
Agreed. I don't rate Phillips as a person or a politician. The left have encouraged muslim immigration and tried to manipulate muslims to vote for them. That short lived arrangement is now over. Muslims have their own agenda and the native Brits will come to realise they will not be playing the leading role.
He's a coward that is doing political theatre to future proof any future plans to run politically.
My guess is he'll try to run as a Reform candidate.
Wouldn't be surprised if this has already been floated.
Yes I’m sure Jess phillips and her followers really see him as the bigger man.
I think he's just going to get laughed at.
Marxist feminists would dance a dead man's grave.
@@The_Comedian556 carl is an idiot and a fool for apologizing for something that wasn't wrong in the first place. and bending the knee only corrupts the person,
Why's the interviewer looking at him at the start like hes about to shoot him or tell him he's his long lost son...
That’s just how Stephen looks 😂. He’s a good guy.
It was a bit odd.... 😂
He’s flirting
He doesn't blink!
It was quite creepy, yeah.
I wouldn't even apologise to Jess Phillips.
I'm impressed with Carl's growth as a person. I've been following him since gamergate and I used to really enjoy his "edgy" humor, but as I've gotten older I've changed and I appreciate watching my favorite content creator grow as well.
I couldn't really listen to what Carl was saying, as all I could think of was that he really needed to apologise for that blazer.
Nothing wrong with the blazer, it’s the shirt that’s ruining it.
@@CatchmeIfucan-fo2hf A black shirt's never a good look, or brown. If in doubt, and you're a certain age, just dress like Jeremy Clackson, or Ben Fogle (if you're posh).
😅
@@AndyKirkpatrick50You're right to point out the blazer. The colours I wouldn't say are too jarring, just the way it makes his arms look very small, and his frame on the whole slight.
Oh leave off... Carl & Farage have the same tailor is all
Nothing wrong with being anti feminist. It's not the same as being anti women. That said, it's good that he apologised to Jess, even though she's clueless.
Why? Jess started it
The bit when he goes on about submissive wives being slaves; he demonstrated that his own wife is submissive.
These guys are not looking for a slave, they're looking for someone that will respect when their foot is put down on a subject, someone who doesn't argue every single point till they get what they want every single time
@@Th3_Gael That bit was so cringe. When men worked and supported the wife and kids at home that's a virtue of men. Now there are lots of easy office jobs rather than the hard back breaking manual labour jobs, it's easy for feminists to play the victim about the past. Bahaha. Sargon is lost. He has almost become a feminist
@@Th3_Gael that view Sargon said about wifes being submissives is just unhelpful. He's just pandering to the feminists at this point. Just giving feminists more ammo against men, they will see it as giving ground. What a mess this interview was. Disappointed in Sargon and I've been watching him before he even showed his face on RUclips
Like Trans, Feminism is an umbrella term. Kellie Jay Keen is a woman's rights campaigner who rejects any suggestions that is part of the feminist movement.
"Dadism" should have become a book.
Should never have apologised.
And a harvest of righteousness is sown in peace by those who make peace (James 3:18)
Ecclesiastes 10:2
The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.
A 2,000-year-long bloody Christian history would suggest otherwise.
I am a Christian .
An old school " thou shalt not murder " one.
You keep turning that other cheek, and Christianity will be dead and buried in less than 100 years.
It's good to see lads grow into dads.
Here here.
Would you apologize first for something when the other person started it?
@@jaz093 I don't see it transactionally. If Carl now believes he did something wrong - to anyone - he's right to apologise.
That's one difference between relative and absolute morality.
@@jaz093don’t be so petty.
@@jaz093 Yes, because I'm not 12 years old.
I’m so disappointed, I hoped he’d never apologise as it stood up for his right to tell a bad joke.
I agree. It's playground humour and the landscape right now isn't a playground anymore. Jess needs to know who her friends and enemies really are.
and she has no friends because she is an awful person
Maybe she's starting to realize the danger they've put the public in now it's affecting her!
Apparently, it's men who are the problem.
2019 Carl: "I'm not going to apologise for my crimes against political correctness"
2024 Carl: "I do hope she accepts my apology..."
Bro... what happened.
Lotuseaters start to get serious traction and garner attention in political circles.
They are being noticed and listened to. And not just by us shizo randos on the internet anymore.
They could become seriously influencial, Kingmakers in a sense, setting the tone and pace of british politics on the right.
But for them to further establish, they- WE need to further "professionalise" and shed unnessecary baggage, which the Phillips-Joke is one of.
Enough time has passed since that incident, internet discourse NOTICEABLY changed in the last 2 years and at that point that joke is just a liability. And it plays positively towards Carl and negatively towards Jess if she refuses to accept and continues to yap about it.
Dont sweat it. Its just a shift in tone, not politics. He's still the same, but we must stop playing dumb internet games. It's not 2015 anymore. Kekistan will not be a thing. It's getting serious out there and if our arguments are to have any pull, we MUST start to act at least like half way grown-ups.
@@3R45U5 Yes, but that means their influence is showing people that they should capitulate to the people that hate them.
This seems unwise. Phillips herself refuses to accept that what happened to her was because of sectarianism, and is more to do with "men".
If you think you are too ugly to get a girlfriend, then you're either not working hard enough or not lowering your standards low enough.
Never apologise…
It was a nasty comment. but she has also something to apologise for.
@@JohnDavidSullivanI agree 👍🏻
Never apologise unless you genuinely feel you have something to apologise for. A genuine apology is as much for you as the other party.
@@Monkey-fv2km It is, and he does, and he has.
How much you betting she has none of it?
@@Monkey-fv2kmjess started it. She can laugh at men's issues being talked about and he has to apologize? Ok...
Yes Carl was rude and insulting to Jess Phillips but that's not what she accused him of and it's not what she wants an "apology" for.
In fact she doesn't even care about whether Carl apologises or not because the whole point was to DEFAME him!
She won when the media {incl. the so-called Right Wing Media such as the Daily Mail and Peter Hitchens} decided to ignore all the context and take the accusation as fact!
Peter Hitchens was utterly wrong in that discussion with Carl, because his entire argument was premised on Jess Phillips accusation being true!
This is wrong, Carl
Wise move Carl, hopefully clearing the way for running as an MP with Reform in the future.
This is Carl's fawning attempt to get Peter Hitchens' validation
@@BradleyUK58 No, Carl gives the reasons for his apology to Jess Phillips but you can speculate all you like.
@@ag7075
No I am not speculating what this woman said about male prostrate cancer patients is a disgrace I am a prostrate cancer survivor.
Carl is trying to impress his hero Hitchen
the groveling Lotus Eaters are prepared to display to appease that intellectual snob is now cringe worthy.
The audio was going really strange sometimes. Made me think I took something...
Good lord never take advice from Peter Hitchens. He’ll just endlessly grouse and grumble, doesn’t matter what you do.
Import sectarian conflicts and shockingly you get a sectarian conflict.
I am getting so fed up of Hitchens he is such a snob he really is his own biggest fan.
Peter Hitchens is a complete narcissist snob full of his own self importance.
Jess Philips used Twitter to attack and belittle a young working class lad for simply wearing the Flag of St George on his back while walking home from the footy. I have no respect for her and wish nothing but failure for her going forward.
-Melbourne AU
Waiting for her apology for laughing at men ending themselves! She doesn’t have the integrity to do so.
Don't hold your breath.
Let Labour know that we are here for the long game
Apologises for what, her ego?
Boring. Always double down, my son