Is this hate speach shout I write gold is a відсталий? Means r ard in eglish. But slow in ukrainian. Does it not mean to retard something means to slow down? No wonder enlish is a confusing language, it's a unity of like 10 different languages
The left don't want equality any more - they don't even use the word anymore - now they use the word "equity" - which really means a reversal - so there is still inequality, but it's turned on its head.
“I have never understood why it is ‘greed’ to want to keep the money you have earned but not greed to want to take somebody else's money.” - Thomas Sowell
A good, intelligent, self-made man who started on the 'left' and was honest enough to admit he was wrong. All the more valuable because he is a black man who can speak the truth without being accused of being a white supremacist, just an 'Uncle Tom'. 😐
@@marlonmoncrieffe0728 They say that but then they also hate charity. You helping someone isn't good enough. They need to take your $ and then spend it on that person but then you don't get any of the joy or credit the "government" helped them. Look at Mr Beast. I can't think of a nicer thing you could do then give someone water. I'm rather picky about my water and would never deprive someone of good water. That doesn't make sense to me to be mad at that unless they think the governments power is more important then a thirsty person? Have you ever been super dehydrated thirsty? It's the worst. Meanwhile the government uses my $ to buy bombs. That's not greater or good.
The quote makes a great point in principle, but technically speaking, it can be at least partially explained away via the subtle difference between "greed" and "envy". Where greed is the insatiable desire for more (even though the greedy person has enough), while envy is the desire for what someone else has (regardless of how much or little the envious person has).
Just make sure you vote how they've branded you... much as you might not like it, this leftist crowd has gone around the bend. They need a few losses, and then you can go back to voting for normal liberals if they ever exist again.
I used to have outdoor toilet, no bathroom etc, grew up in Rochdale, started work for a builder, worked hard ( though I didnt realise it at the time) never did drugs, stayed with my kids mum. Eldest is now training as a chopper pilot and other two at private school. I am constantly referred to as priviledged or lucky by people who would never unblock a toilet, start work in the dark or put up with exhausting work. Scrape off those that drag you down.
Depends on who is making the accusation, boomer generation was definitely privileged in comparison to later ones. 4 years average salary would get you a house, now it's 10 years. This means that someone now would have to do 2.5x as much as you to get the same thing.
@@thisismychannel607Nick Fuentes is an old school, pre-Vatican 2 Catholic. Prior to the 1960’s, it was perfectly normal for Catholics to regard Jews as evil, for condemning Christ, and to openly talk about it. After Vatican 2, this kind of talk was cancelled. Nick is reviving it
I grew up in a left wing poverty-ridden hovel and the one person who tried to give me a break and get me a into a good school (primary school headteacher) was told to "get lost" because she couldn't guarantee the same for my siblings - neither of which studied anywhere near as hard as I did. As a result I was sent to an absolutely rotten secondary school where I was held back for three years for the rest of my year group to catch up with me. That was my parents skewed interpretation of equity, it was soul destroying and I then had to spend 15 years fighting for the career I wanted the long way - only to be told at that point that as a white man I don't deserve it, and my only saving grace being that I am homosexual. It's lunacy.
That isn't only your parents' view of that. That is the socialist viewpoint as well. Everybody needs to be kept at the same level. However no one needs to be kept anywhere.
This is the lunacy of wanting fairness. It’s entirely unfair! I tell my kids all the time, if you want things to be fair for you sometimes you have to share the fair so everyone can have some but that means when they have the fair you don’t and vice versa otherwise no one will have anything.
The thing with Count Dankula is that you can't even make the argument that 'as a public figure he should have had more foresight and not do something so heinous to disrupt the peace'. Until you look into the situation and realize the dude had ten followers on RUclips and was just some guy until that incident occurred.
He was very fortunate that he built an audience. Everytime he got a job activists would contact the company he was working for until he was let go. Poor bloke would not be able to support his family without youtube.
I also somewhat fell for the media narrative on that whole case... Not like I love everything about Dankula but he didn't deserve what he got about all that, clearly.
I don't think that was their argument. I think it was more like" You made a joke we don't like" (Nobody was offended) That is why we went out searching for someone to be offended about a Austrian pug with artistic tendencys. " Oh it was a joke was it? Well too bad context don't matter" Now justice is served and we are such good and upstanding people. Maybe you are aware of what they told him the context of his case did not matter. And this seems to be a theme with people who buy into this new cult.
That controversy never made any sense to me. The whole "dog raises paw to literally everything; I wonder if I can make him raise his paw to something utterly reprehensible to literally everyone..." joke is... y'know... predicated on the notion that not-zee-ism _is_ utterly reprehensible to literally everyone. The joke is that the dog is dumb. There are a million jokes on the Internet that run on this premise. But there I go again, trying to rationally understand the thought process of irrational people. Next you'll be telling me that Noelle from BapKat (a guy plays Cards Against Humanity with his cat) is _actually_ a domestic tear-your-wrist...
I am born a lower working class man, when I was young we were so poor that we literally couldn’t afford to keep the lights on, or the heating. My mother’s car was repossessed and at Christmas there was only ever a present or two for both me and my brother. Yet not once, never once did I ever at any point of my life feel envious for what others had. Even the most richest of the people I have known in my time on God’s good Earth I never once demanded for what they had or was angry that I had so little. I’m a self employed tradesman, so I work for a variety of different people of different social classes. From very high to the very low. And always everyone is polite and respectful, they always make us a cup of tea, and never did I feel angry at looking at their big houses or land or cars or anything. Grow up, do your best and try hard to succeed where you’re skilled and for goodness sake, get a real job! You might not live rich, but you will live happily.
Underrated comment. Just really wholesome stuff and true to life. Alternatively, go work for part of gov't or any big corporate structure if you want to learn the value of "job satisfaction". You don't have to be depressed or anxious all the time. God bless.
well said, but the your government has been transferring wealth from the middle and lower class for years, especially in 2008 and covid. if I have £800 million, my children will own your children's houses and collect rent. that's a problem!
@@jayjaydubful And in my experience most trustafarians are left wing. Funny that huh? Funny how the left is always so happy to embrace the wealthy and upper classes if they say the correct things. You don't see many of the antifa lot turning on those amongst them who are very wealthy (tends to only be revealed when the police and the newspapers get involved).
@@jayjaydubful Why? You know how easy it would be to piss all that inherited wealth away? Some people inherit wealth and are able to maintain or build on it by the time they pass it on to their kids, which would require a certain amount of will power, discipline, and self control that one could take a certain amount of pride in.
I grew up in Glasgow in the 1980s and 90s. Saw drug dealers chop a guys ear of after torturing him. My uncle had about 6 slash marks on his face. Alcohol and violence everywhere. Used to steal toys from the council bins. I never knew that was privilege. I really didn't. Meanwhile, a black immigrant getting £37,011 in benefits (I work in the system and this is an actual case from this morning) are underprivileged. Who knew.
Yeah, it is insane how society sees Sir Toff Toffington III on TV and wants to sweepingly apply his position to all white men. Our childhoods were brutal and honestly quite frightening looking back.
@@loganblackwood2922 Agreed. I hung about with about 20 lads. Every single one got stabbed or slashed at some point except me and one mate who went on to join the merchant navy. I got into boxing and mma. And we weren't even bad lads. Meanwhile black boys in London have PlayStation, Xbox and gucci trainers but are victims. It's all about justifying destroying white people. One day it'll come to a head.
@@stephenmurray2851We were messed up kids at the end of it all and some of us found a productive outlet for that pent up aggression, military, boxing, MMA and others found less productive means and ended up in prison or removed from the server of life. Looking back, so much of it came from no structure, no fathers and just outright nobody to care. And now? More of the same. It's terrible.
Andrew, get over yourself and stop thinking you don't deserve what you have. I was born working class and have worked hard to create a better future for my children. They deserve it, because I have been making choices, that others haven't, to benefit them. Myself and my wife, and two children, lived in a small two bedroom flat with relatively good wages, just to save money to secure their future. We could have wined and dined ourselves but chose to save for our children's future. We don't drink, smoke etc. So my children will hopefully benefit from this. Why should my choices help another persons child? A person who has not made the same sacrifices as me.
👏👏 exactly right mate. We work now so they have a better start than we do. Enforcing shame on the same children that you worked your hands to the bone to help, robs all meaning from 5 decades of your life.
I commend your efforts and I would hope that even though you have made sacrifices to spare your children the same hardship, you can also give them the wisdom of the reward of hard work. I have seen so many examples where the parents worked so hard for their children, but failed to show them how valuable the gift that they gave them was...
How is Carl not moderate right? He values family, freedom, ineqality to bring out diversity as opposed to different races with the same ideas, responsibility, respect and fairness.
@@markmiddaugh8203 He is controlled opposition. He pretends to value those things but only in a symbolic way. He selects only safe issues to disagree with- and only to an extent that would never exclude him from appearing on mainstream programs. His alliances are very elastic.
Voted remain, always voted Labour. Considered myself left. I was wrong. The hysterical self flagellating want me to hate myself and hate my history. It wants me to prostrate myself on every issue. I WAS the work moaner. I was the family gathering hysteric. And here's the shocking lesson I learnt BLM, woke politics,trans, whitewashing etc isn't just despised by me. About 7 months ago I started working with younger people. From ages 20- 35 mainly. Dozens. And all they talk about is being so fed up of left wing hysterics. That jobs should be given by the colour of skin and not talent, that every issue should have you tearing up paintings and glueing yourself to the road hysterical mental breakdowns. Its changing people, they're driving everyone to the same politics my grandfather did. And I'm all for it.
Yep. Many of us have left The Left. Or really The Left left us. I wont be voting for any left-wing parties as they currently stand. Not because I'm not left-wing or liberal but because these parties and even many conservative MPs are liberalism on steroids. Nadine Dorris from the Tories wanted to ban "offensive" comedy and many Conservative MPs including Boris signed a petition to ban blacking up on comedy. Which is utterly ridiculous. It completely ignores context. Should we ban White Chicks and Mrs Doubtfire? These people are certified crazy. Im voting Reform and seeing how they fare. I dont care anymore. The other parties are done.
@@cousinzeke4888 well tbf only 55% of left-wingers call themselves woke. Many of those may not call themselves woke anymore as that was an old poll and many may now be right-wing but only due to an overtun shift.
I agree on Tommy. He's been a crass guy who has said stuff without thinking back in the day, but that hardly makes someone a villain. He was a family man and a business owner who noticed some shady stuff going on with a particular immigrant community and started calling them out for it - that's why he's considered racist/xenophobic. Problem is (as Carl pointed out) Tommy was right and everyone can see it now.
You call grooming gangs 'shady stuff' ? Repeatedly raping and abusing young white girls and passing them around is just 'shady stuff'? A disgusting crime perpetrated on a mass scale by an ever increasing ethnic group of a certain persuasion that is now openly intimidating the general population and the establishment. The same establishment that had conspired to shield them for years. Or perhaps you're thinking that because the girls were white they had some 'immeasurable advantages' like Andrew.
'Shady stuff' is how you refer to the nationwide disgusting 'cultural' activities of the Pakistani grooming gangs? Are you suggesting that if only TR had given a little more thought to the situation he could have rephrased his responses nicely without upsetting his betters who were shielding the gangs?
@@judithcressey1682 It's actually difficult to find words that are strong enough. Words like criminal, disgusting, appalling etc. all don't seem adequate for the rapists or the system that was scared to punish them.
Completely agree, what the media believe is if you call someone a racist far right thug often enough people will believe it. Its the same with Enoch Powel, you ask anybody today about him first thing they will say is racist.not because they know it but because they have been told he is often enough.
It was personal. His cousin was raped by a grooming gang and his mate started to become a Muslim extremist and there were Muslims flying the ISIS banner in his town at one protest.
Carl is essentially the recruiting Sergeant of the new political model army that England and the UK needs for the coning civil strife/war. He has done an exceptional amount of work, reading and studying, and he is perfectly placed to enroll new recruits in his position on RUclips. But the movement needs generals with vision and IQ at least 20 to 30 points higher to develop a plan to bring about the Reconquista/Restoration of England (political and ethical, and probably religious). They will need to have Trump-like ability to be unwounded by the slings and arrows of mainstream media and judicial system, they will need to be self-funding to remain above commercial sirens calling to them, and have sufficient megalomania to want to take the job and yet sufficient self-control to ensure that we do not over-compensate as they drag the political pendulum back towards centre-right. Who and where are the generals?
I think the crazy thing is how the left have essentially dropped impoverished workers completely. It's a phenomenon of middle class college kids being all theatrical and towing the line on eco-fraudulance and cultural wokeness while they don't give two shits about the ordinary people clocking in and out for 40 hours a week doing mundane jobs. When I meet the more old style of leftists whose political philosophy centres around making work pay, nationalisation etc I don't necessarily agree but they seem more switched on and it's a legitimate thing to bring to political discourse. But the 2024 culture wars kids that want to topple statues can get in the sea.
@@MrHeavy466 Some cops are bad. Some are good. The best we can do is point out the good examples of policing and bad examples. Blanket statements allows for abuse to be called out or does not seek to improve a system. We need to address issues with policing in the US. Take a look at many points made from liberal organizations. A lot of people (Like myself) want funds somewhat reallocated. Take for example someone is doing drugs and having problems, someone for security (police) and someone who has mental health / addiction training would be best to intervene with this individual. I want better resources for our society when it comes to helping people who take a detrimental path. The goal of these resources is to rehabilitate these individuals. A lot of the system right now is built off profit which is a major incentive (flaw in my view) that keeps the system perpetuating itself.
Thomas Jefferson was wrong to say that the best government is that which governs least. Likewise its wrong to say the best government is that which governs most. Instead the best government is that which governs most justly for all members in the polity. The ancient Western-knowing : Justice is that which one does for another.
The equality that was promised under classical liberalism was equality of rights and equality under the law. No one ever promised equality of outcome, so it's a misunderstanding of the concept that people are simply stipulating. And it is that misunderstanding that makes it easy to lead people to think socialism is desirable.
"The equality that was promised under classical liberalism was equality of rights and equality under the law." Liberalism is bullshit ideology since rights are not magical... The rights you have are GIVEN TO YOU by other people... As a human being you have no rights other then what is given to you. Socialism is a at least somewhat rooted in materialism while liberalism is pure abstract BS. "No one ever promised equality of outcome" Because you need to have equality of outcome for people to have the same rights... Thats the problem you libtards dont understand... Talking to a libtard is like talking to a person with a down syndrome... except people with down syndrome have three digit IQ compared to a libtards. In the US rich people have far better right to "free" speech then poor person on a basis they can afford defending their speech in court even if they battle for decades. And yes there were many cases in which companies won their right to free speech in court while poorer people folded for economic reasons. Infact most times you hear "settlement" its not admission of guilt its rather people/companies folding for being cheaper option.
Equality of opportunity and equality of outcome are too often conflated. The sad thing is that Trans activists are not even after equality of outcome, but inequality of outcome to the detriment of the rest of society.
@@foulplay99 "Equality of opportunity and equality of outcome are too often conflated. " They are the same thing once you strip the abstract esoteric liberal garbage. Liberals are masters of selling you smoke and mirrors. Equality of opportunity means everyone has a chance to do x... except in reality only select few have chance to do x. People who are selling you the idea of "equality of opportunity" are the same people who will complain the most about nepotism, discrimination based on politics and corruption which is wild because those 3 things invalidate their BS. If I want to become a hollywood writer and I am on the right I will not get hired... no matter how good writer I am. One thing I learned is that the left are nothing more but liberals coming to its logical conclusion. Liberals said religion will no longer play an important role in statecraft and left said no more religion. Its a next logical step. Liberals said we will get rid of all the previous forms of hierarchy (nobles, clergy) and left said lets remove all forms of hierarchy. If you are a liberal and you go against the left you will lose on every point even when it comes to use of political violence liberals are no position to claim political violence is bad when their entire history is based around political violence and terrorism cough* french revolution. Right wing liberals are funny people because they will never counter leftists with liberalism instead they will use nature, religion basically arguments that are not rooted in liberalism
The absolute disdain people have when talking about white people, specifically white men, along with Christianity and Britain/ Americanism is staggering. It's literal racism, sexism and religious intolerance, but so long as the narrative is controlled it's permissible. It wouldn't be too much of an issue if it wasn't backed up and promoted by *the state* White privileges do indeed exist, but they are negated by the disadvantages. Those disadvantages being: - No semblance of culture or homogeneity - Disproportionately the victim of hate crimes - Disproportionately taxed at higher rates - No scholarships or quotas, you simply have to be exceptional to thrive - An entire media industry that is hell bent on unfavourable comparisons between your kind and everyone else's kind (white men can't jump, white people age bad, white people smell, white people have big noses, white people are slow, white people have smaller genitalia, white people can't dance etc) and then the gaslighting that comes along with that. This stuff would not fly under the current cultural and legal system if it was reversed.
If so many white men weren't so bigoted they'd probably get more respect. Nobody has disdain for me because I'm white. It really does pay to be an egalitarian.
As someone who grew up in New Mexico, USA where I was always the minority yeah this gets me right in my core. Feels bad man. I remember being super mad at my 6th grade Spanish teacher just because he loved his culture so much. It took me a long time to figure out why he made me mad. Because I wasn't allowed to love myself like that. By age 12 I had already been taught to hate myself. "You didn't build that" President Obama said once referring to a bridge. This country just popped up or slaves did it. I should have no pride. But crimes in the past? Even though half my family were northerner colonists and the other half immigrated after the civil war that's my fault.
@drak976 Yeah, I love how my greatgrandpa who emigrated to the Midwest in 1914, and immediately started working in coal mines as a 15 yr old oppressed all those people before him. I'm 4th gen American and we've all be either/and coal miners, factory workers, laborers, and vets.
But those white men are some of the biggest bigots in history. SERIOUSLY! Have you even bothered to see what they got up to in Medieval times? Bunch of c*nts! I mean. I'm a white male, and I'm fine with who I am, because I'm not a bigoted little shit, but some of our guys are so pathetic and so weak when it comes to Equality. If I was ever going to become embarrassed because of other white men, there has never been a better time because of all their constant whining and cowardice in the face of a tiny little bit of equality for the people we normally treat as slaves. Blacks, browns., wives. Let's face it, white men are truly a dysfunctional bunch of wankers most of the time. I'm OK. Not sure about the rest of you.
As a person born to a single mother in a rotting council maisonette who from 3 to 11 waa abused by my stepdad, i do not begrudge you having opportunities that i didn't.
He had those opportunities owing to hereditary wealth, not owing to his hard work or merit. Just because you're happy for children to grow up destitute, doesn't mean modern society agrees with you.
I've written extensively about the origins of Left and Right. It goes back to the 1789 French Revolution, but the most recent twist came from Stalin, who called the Nazis the "right wing" of SOCIALISM. This linked "right wing" to Nazis, when in fact they were on the right edge of the Left!! Being on the Right actually means positing freedom as the basis of society. All reasonable people are on the Right. Being on the Left means forcing "equality" prior to freedom, i.e. the establishment of a strong State, whether Communist, Fascist, or other.
All collectivism ultimately stems from left wing thought. Communism, Socialism, Fascism and National Socialism are just different branches with the same core functions. Anyone with a modicum of interest in history and especially Nazi Germany know how similar their policies were to for example the Soviet Union. It's the biggest false narrative in recent history that the Nazis were somehow right wing, but it's still perpetrated by millions to this day and taught in school as absolute fact.
Right, so the Nazis were socialist because their name was National Socialism? Are North Korea democratic, since their name is the Democratic People's Republic of Korea?
As far as I was aware, the right is conservatism, and the left is progressivism. And you can have varying degrees of liberal or authoritarianism for both.
@@Sevarianot sure what you think liberalism is. It's the Enlightenment ideal of individualism. It makes capitalism possible. It's the opposite of statist and collectivist ideologies like Communism and Fascism. In the US, traditional Republicans and Democrats are both liberalist.
Very interesting. On the point about individuals controlling their own lives, here is my example. I’m an Australian woman. As a full-time public servant, I decided to study law at evening classes. I did get study leave (time off) as part of the enterprise bargain agreement with my employer, which I used as time to drive to the law school. I paid for tuition fees, books, travel, etc. I used my vacation leave to study and attend exams. Several of my colleagues were involved in family life and made different choices, while their children were young. Some of them asked me why I bothered to try to get legal qualifications. I said I was interested and had the time to do it. They thought I was silly to make the effort. When I completed my course and won a promotion, several of them were put out, and couldn’t understand why I won the job with the higher salary, and more responsibilities. So my effort, time, persistence, diligence and expenditure had no value for them. It all came down to unfairness because my position improved, relative to their stagnant position, over a 4-5 year period of my part-time study. I came from a low income family in an impoverished area. My primary school was a demonstration school within the Catholic school system, so they tried out new methods on my school. My one benefit was my intelligence, and my ability to use my opportunities. How is that unfair if someone else had a different school environment, chose a different path, a different lifestyle, family structure and use of their personal time and effort? I did get some affirmative action boost as a woman when I applied for jobs within the public sector but only so that I could reach the interview and not be culled because I was not male. It took several attempts and significant improvement in my performance at interviews before I cracked a win, and got two different promotions within the same week. So it was not based on affirmative action in the end. I may be white but, with two convicts in my family tree, I am not privileged. And the blocking of white males on non-merit grounds is definitely unfair.
I’m a Minarchist who wants people to be free to associate and transact as they see fit. It’s shocking how rapidly in these last few years my stances on individual freedom and limits on the reach of government have gotten me labeled as “far-right” and how when I express them in certain circles I’ve been accused of being a Not See. Can’t quite figure out how an anti-authoritarian egalitarian who believes in the intrinsic value of all mankind is now controversial or even “hateful” 🤷♂️
It's collective mental rot that has set in and metastasized to full-blown malignant tumor. It can be painful when friends get caught up in it to the level of cult-like frenzy. Although the cost of getting in line and immediately engaging in lock-step mindless puppetry is too high, IMO. Find new friends who like you for you AND who expend the effort to know who you truly are, not some caricature they can manipulate to their narcissistic whims. Don't give over your power to the name-callers whose lust for control is their end-goal.
Because the people criticising you ARE authoritarian , in that they believe their opinion is the only valid one . Further , they are ANTI egalitarian by virtue of wanting to exalt some protected groups above the rest .
I have an immense admiration for Carl, he's done a lot of hard work and actually has done the thing that everyone likes to pretend they've done, he researched the ideology of his opponents extensively, all of it, he understands it more thoroughly even than they do, and it is from that understanding that he's constructed his opinions. That knowledge has rendered him quite wise and effective at communicating where these concepts lead to, and it's always fascinating to hear him speak on these topics.
He does? I doubt he’s ever read Karl Marx. If he did, he is utterly incapable of steelmanning the arguments. The guy just barfs one strawman after the other and doesn’t source anything (because he can’t).
@@chaosinfusion8127 Not sure if you're serious, or if you're letting your own bias influence your perceptions. He's citing the philosophers directly who are the source of these movements and ideaologies. So yes, he has read it at least a couple times iirc. If you'd like a good example of him doing his research on an opposing position, you can check out his videos dissecting Critical Race Theory. Maybe you'll appreciate his thorough treatment of the source material there? Since he literally goes through their massive complete textbook and points out what they are literally saying. And these are the people who started these ideologies, the people who coined the terms and everything.
@@chaosinfusion8127 He literally runs a channel called Lotus Eaters where they do all kinds of side projects doing EXACTLY that. Say you know literally nothing in regards to what you are talking about in fewer words, he HAS read Marx. He's talked about his readings. His CREW has talked about their readings. In fact, what he responds to and talks about is usually what other people are saying, verbatim, in general.
@@Moon-Labs Him and James had a long conversation on Benjamin Boyce's channel a while back. I'll have to listen to it again. Unfortunately some time recently James and Carl seem to have had a falling out but not sure why. I really appreciate both of them. My friend Pete worked with James on the Grievance Studies Affair back in 2017-2018. James has two podcasts: An introduction to classical liberalism and the problems with it.
"Spreading the misery around." Also, the imaginary utopia these nuts want always requires an oppressive state to administer it. It simply can't exist in a way that the average person would actually like or benefit from it.
@@ironheadedDoF @kwc1138 I would refer back to a great book Dawkin's "The Selfish Gene" which is kind of a goofy clickbait title because it makes it seem like there is 1 selfish gene when his argument is much more that genes are selfish. Anyways if I interpreted his book correctly his argument was all behavior was tied directly to reproduction hence selfish genes. So me in my peasant mind think the behavior we see is the elite trying to get normal people not to breed so that their "elite" genes can more easily propagate. "No don't have kids thats wrong" while they plow through endless well youtube won't let me use words but uhh young ladies.
I have been waiitng about 18months for an NHS specialist appointment. Free at the point of use yes, but approx £200/month of my taxes is going to the NHS probably so that is £2,400/year to not get an appointment. It is a no brainer to go private, sure, you spend an extra £600/year, but you get an appointment within 2 weeks. NHS needs totally reformed.
It's a shame you don't get to opt out of paying tax for the NHS in that circumstance, but we all know what would happen if all private people stopped paying for the NHS.
When I realized that BBC news wasn't actually the news but was just updates on the narrative, I started to look into what other things there were that may not be as true as they say. Tommy Robinson was one of those subjects. I watched his speech at the Oxford Union which totally changed my mind and frankly made me distrust the BBC even more. If you want to learn about the guy or want somewhere to start learning about him then this is a good place. He talks openly and honestly (I believe) about his life growing up on the estates and how he ended up being public enemy number one.
I had the same experience watching that Oxford Union speech. I was raised a lefty and grew up hating Robinson. He's the perfect example of the fact that most left wingers actually despise the average working class British person.
@@SolarJakeeand some middle class also desperately crave not to be identified with the working class, in a desperate desire to be part of the elite. As if that will save them.
No. Russell Brand is not the "elite." He's an entertainer who has become interested in politics and philosophy and political philosophy and comments on them. And encourages others to do their own thinking on the subjects. "Elites" don't encourage thought that contravenes their own status.
I really enjoyed this discussion. Big fan of both yourself and Carl. With regards to Tommy Robinson he gave a talk at the Oxford Union, which is available here on youtube, and that was extremely interesting. If you can find that it tells you a lot about why Tommy is the way he is. Tommy is not a racist and he's not anti Muslim he's anti Islamist. In fact he came to the defence of a Muslim that was wrongly accused. Tommy is perhaps the most oppressed and maligned individual in the UK.
I truly believe they went after him so hard in order to use him as a scapegoat to give a reason to continue to ignore the crimes he was highlighting. That it turned out that even a member of the royal family was involved in that stuff says a lot.
To think that anyone anywhere can "correct" all of the inequalities in the world is the very height of foolish narcissisms. The only thing you maybe(and only maybe) have any real chance of fixing is yourself.
I grew up as a 'normie' until, over a twenty year period, I gradually noticed more and more unusual changes in my community which were mostly due to immigration. I used to think that mass-immigration was like a natural phenomenon which cant be stopped, like the tides or the sunrise. However, I now realize that it's due to a relatively small number of elites who exploit immigration for profit...I now believe that it cant only be stopped but can even be reversed with enough political will.
@@zedasamuel7164 A hoard would be a treasure like smaug. I'm assuming you meant horde like tons of random guys who are looking for a sausage roll. I ate one of those the other day. It was dreadful. My child wisely ordered a croissant with eggs and they seemed far happier. I always order the worst things on the menu it's not even about $ I just have bad taste.
I really enjoyed watching this interview/chat. I like how rather than arguing, you challenged Carl on why he sees and believes things in the way he does. Subscribed
He is a strong man of conviction. They have so easily smeared him because he is working class. They don't want strong men of a larger class than the political elite.
She did side with female biologist who wouldn't accept troons as women. Which she wasn't wrong to do either. The calls for her to donate to the "cause" was supposed to be a means of her getting back into their good graces.
Yeah what's so frustrating is legit "far right" stuff isn't even remotely possible in the modern age, the Overton Window is way past that. So literally every policy that comes up that is supposedly "far right", i always think is a critically needed idea.
i was thinking the other day that it would wind the establisment up no end if we called someone sir, (i was thinking of tommy robinson ) , who is to say only those few elites get to decide who we, the people, look up to and appreciate , i mean they gave one to jimmy saville
@@NOT_SURE.. I mean, I should think. Despite Carl and I being somewhat lacking in the faith in the supernatural department, I couldn't help but feel, watching those videos, that he was legit "doing the lords work." To me that's what it looks like, what it feels like, and more so than I've generally seen or felt from any actual religious people.
I am not sure if this guy is being hyperbolic for the sake of entertainment, but the fact that he is genuinely perplexed that Carl had a job that involved cleaning toilets appeared to have broken his mind. I think he perfectly represents the thinking of the middle class in this country and why they are so hateful, whether he intentionally meant to do that or not.
All the Hate and bollocks is coming from the Left in this country. Someone's Class has nothing to do with it. The Lefts ideology is the politics of envy and hate is written in to it.
I personally think Carl is the one man that really has a great hold on what all of this is about, he nearly always has a great awnser for seemingly complicated topics.
Same. I'm basically a classical liberal. Free speech, legalize drugs, secularism. When I was a kid it was the Christian right trying to ban video games and rap. Now the Puritans are on the left.
Back around 2008 I imagined a comic about a dystopian future where even cold hard facts from the ONS / American equivalents could be "hate speech" if "used in the wrong way". It came true before I could even draw it.
That's what makes them funny. It's funny because it's true. It's less funny in real life but this is partially our fault for allowing these criminals to rule us. The Nations of Sanity project presents the solution.
The segment about joking about minorities mirror the victim hood movement. Being a victim works in this ideological climate. Thank you both for this conversation ❤
I love you. I love Carl. I loved this. Regarding The N Word. I was told that it is not my word to use. I retorted that that was ridiculous, as nobody owns language. I asked if he considered any other words taboo, and got ghosted. I have custody of my 13 year old grandson. It's really difficult to deprogram him from the shit they tell him at school. But by god I'm trying.
Maybe she would be met with. A black criminal who would kill her son, at that point, why wouldn't it be fair for her to use the N-word (i would write it down but it would disappear)
Peterson in an interview not too long ago said something like: thinking about yourself is the same thing as misery. This put me onto a study that differentiated between self-rumination and self-reflection, and how the former was directly correlated with increase in depressive behaviours. When Carl mentioned that we wouldn't be in the ideological crap hole we're in if we had some real problems to deal with, that made me connect with the above. Are we as a society depressed? Because it seems strange that we would just curl up and die when met with all the attacks thrown at the UK.
Yes. The simplest way of understanding it that I'm aware of is thinking of Europe as being a middle-aged person living in material comfort but ultimately feeling empty and suffering a variety of symptoms (hint: look at certain cultural behaviours and ask why they exist the way they do) due to severe trauma inflicted from two world wars. It was just struggling to move on so never stopped to really iron things out, get therapy or whatever. It's petrified by war to the point of becoming militarily weaker than any other country would be in the same situation and relying on US support to enjoy the invisible border wall from things like NATO. It just wants to avoid war at all costs, which seems fine till you no longer have the cultural sense for pretty normal things globally, like patriotism. So, Germany never starts WWIII - great, but now multiple generations lack the instinct of perceiving material threats or having to risk harm to protect something worthwhile. I don't think this is a uniquely European thing. I don't think it's a racial matter at every level. Maybe what Europe is currently going through is unique in the world right now, but cultural trauma seems to exist in other regions of the world. "China as an individual entity" seems to have some issues after revolution that led to the self-destruction of a lot of their cultural legacy, at least from our general perspective the CCP would of course dispute. Japan is another one. It had a much stronger post-colonial cultural influence from the US than Europe (note, it wasn't just the US that was active in the Pacific during WWII) but are much more European "who needs them except soldiers and maybe farmers?" in their attitudes towards firearms - so again with the question of cultural trauma around war, uniquely being the only direct victims of atomic war ever while committing literally the worst war crimes ever in history. To be clear, this is the Empire of Japan and Unit 731 as a particular extension of it. The current Japanese democracy has to face the reality of preceding governments, just like the people have to process that trauma, but they haven't and so act out in certain ways. I realize some of my opinions are involved in all this, but in this case at least, they become my opinions because it's how things actually seemed to be. We need to remember that just acknowledging something in concept or referring to it isn't moralistic. You're not performing any act related to what's being referred to or even saying you approve with something ethically/morally, just observing its presence. If you (as in, anyone) struggles with this idea, without exaggeration, just learn your history. Study various historical events and notice the patterns across time and cultural boundaries. Then you start seeing things you might call evidence of certain parts of the human condition. Again, I can't deny my bias in this, but going back to your question, it does at least provide the most complete explanation I'm aware of to the current state of Europe, Europeans and Europeanism. Even if you don't buy it, that topic still has relevance, because something exists between Russia and North Africa that will have some knock-on effect on those regions. I'm no expert or authority on any of this. I'm not sure about every detail. It just makes sense in the big picture.
@@WK-47 Thank you, that was quite insightful. I agree with most of your characterisation. I'm reminded of some posts I've been seeing in the US of native descendents posing with middle fingers to mount Rushmore and saying stolen land, and practically all the Americans in the comments saying things to the tune of "won fair and square". Seeing that in spite of the wokeness over there, regardless of the content, it speaks of an attitude of self confidence and assertiveness that just seems to be lacking in the UK and western Europe, where we're apparently willing to enslave and expose ourselves to cynical actors, accepting narratives clearly designed against us and following them to the point of corruption.
This is fascinating from a USA person. I love Carl and I find him so interesting. I like to learn about our brothers and sisters in the UK. Keep fighting for free speech and you will always have support from us across the pond!
I worked cleaning as well. You discover your inner strength to handle shyt, get shyt done, and work past the shyt, even literal at times. And you come out much stronger, confident, and unafraid afterwards.
Absolutely. I come from a comfy middle-class background and feel everyone should at some point (ideally as a youth for the valuable life experience) should work min wage for a time. Doesn't matter how grimy or if it's only for a year. It's just so you hopefully have the basic humility after dealing with strangers treating you like garbage because they've had a bad day and can't handle their own problems so share them with society or just being completely ignored by other people. It means the youngest of my cousins all know what the value of £1 earned and £1 spent is before they leave uni studying whatever. They look the part, but they're not totally sheltered princesses after working a bar, getting shouted at/whatever, not complaining, just getting on with it... then going to do it again the next shift. Really, every kid who leaves school and doesn't join the armed forces/learn a trade/enter the civil service/something else specific needs to have a job that might involve being asked to keep a public bathroom clean, then not quitting the first time they actually get asked to. Try acting out the original comment and see if it doesn't make you a better person despite being literal shite.
Working menial jobs like that humbles you early on. Now we wonder why we have a generation of fragile narcissists who think blue collar jobs are beneath them 🤷♂️
Of those who are on the sane side in an increasingly growing crazy world, there is a clear split between the "Intelligentsia" podcasters and media and working class podcasters and citizen journalists. This split needs to be brought together if we are to have any chance of defeating the madness. I hope Andrew, barring Carl's interview with Tommy, that you can be the first to interview him and shine a light on what he is saying now and what he was saying over a decade ago, before 'and no disrespect intended' any of you guys were talking about it. I feel there is a background hum of class division between people who are in real terms fighting the same fight. Let's change it!
Although I agree with you, can't see it happening. Far too many have their eye on their future prospects with mainstream media to risk too much. I'd say the Triggernometry guys are a prime example of that. They use their immigrant status for protection. And when it's useful, they turn on those they consider "worthless career wise" in a heartbeat. Case in point recently, Anti Israel Muslim marchers in London are mainly well meaning, mislead and peaceful. Protesters turning up at the Cenotaph on 11/11 to protect the monument, are "football hooligans".
Konstantin Kissing is very very closed minded with regard to Stephen Yaxley Lennon and R Brand. I suspect it is due to a deeply ingrained insecurity arising from the shame of being a Russian attending a British public school. Francis Foster speaks with a Sarf Lundin accent, Kissing describes it as quintessentially "racist". Says it all to me.
Funnily everyone tends to sit in their own bubbles discuss what was what will be how to change it but few ever really move indirection. But if your serious you need things to bridge that gap, national pride across the west is down the dunny, religions are now dime a dozen not to mention atheists and secular peoples often don't like interacting with the religious because preachy. The genders are divided, family unit and love thy neighbour down the dunny too. If you really want to bridge that gap my recommendation is get the gamers involved. They come from every walk of life, every profession, every class, every religion, every ethnicity, every nation, every political leaning and yeah sure it's video games but they are more united than any Western nation is today, are just as wide spread through the institutions as the woke and are just as versed in weaponizing the internet as the wokeists plus they have no qualms about kicking the wokeist in the teeth like they are currently doing so right now, while everyone else is talking about what to do.
@@lucianjaeger4893they are trying to demonise Gamers now as well. itsagundam has been covering the wokeness in the companies and the same wokeness is spread through Gamers unfortunately but the Gamers have less of an issue as they aren't spread as thick through the actual Gamers yet. Will be interesting to see what happens after this whole SweetBinc and other game consulting firms get called out and ridiculed for their actions!!
I am glad you mentioned that Hitler was a socialist. You have no idea how many arguments I get over that yet it so obvious that he is a socialist that it utterly baffles me that ppl argue incessantly that he is on the right...
He joined what was then called the German Workers Party (DAP) in 1919. The party renamed itself the NSDAP in 1920, and Hitler became party chairman in 1921. But despite joining what would be called the “National Socialist” German workers party, Adolf Hitler was not a socialist.
@@jedi88full5 -- Really? Was it not his government that instituted several socialist programs throughout the country during his reign? Perhaps you should research that a bit......
I used to get paid £3 an hour when I was 15-16 cleaning toilets, mopping, etc. I had friends who did dish washing, others had paper rounds. It wasn’t a career. It was to get some cash. At 26, I was a runner in vfx, cleaning kitchens, toilets occasionally (means to an end… now a senior artist)… It’s mental that kids refuse those jobs now. (
30:42 Andrew here in Canada we're veering left and more people are dying on our streets...burning to death in a tent with mental health issues and addictions trying to stay warm in our winters.
Look up MAIDs yearly rate. It is a government sanctioned massacre. Lotus Eaters (Carl Benjamin's podcast) recently did a segment on this. Can gov is evil.
I'm going to admit (because I can hide behind this 'straittalking' pseudonym) that I am a denier when it comes to Tommy Robinson. If someone asked me at work said "what do you think of him" I would probably say something like 'well I'm not a fan'; because I work with a load of liberals. But in truth I admire him. He's common working class and not not the smartest man who is also a scrapper - he gets into fights. But he is honest and stands up for his beliefs and his family and friends and he speaks truth to power. I saw a video of him sitting in a hostile audience in front of a panel of hostiles where _everyone_ was calling him out as a racist and Tommy asks them to name anything he had ever said that was racist and not one in the the crowd or panel could answer him so they just continued to berate him en masse. He has an image problem and I admit I am a coward when it comes to my own image. So what if he is a working class scrapper he's usually right.
i think its super gross that people have to hide their opinions like that, like i disagree with you about a good amount of what you just said, but im happy you got to say it here, i wish you could on the outside
@@Peneloppqueen Well it's not something I am proud about but at least it's the truth. I really enjoy my job' I feel I help society in it. But work politics and outside politics don't mix. When you say you disagree with me about a good amount of what I just said- do you mean you dislike (which I could understand) but I can't see much that I said that could be debated. It was mostly fact (at least as I see it) and feeling.
I was convinced by the propaganda about him when I was a young default Lefty, but my perspective on a lot of things changed and I was shocked by just how much I'd been lied to about him in particular. I do want to actually correct you on something though: Tommy (Steve) in his own words "breezed through" his education but was "a bit of a class clown" (A in maths, five Bs, five Cs, without actually doing any proper studying), but he had a temperament that meant he didn't concentrate on his schoolwork as much as he could have done, otherwise he'd have been a straight A student. When he left school, he did an apprenticeship in aircraft engineering: 650+ candidates applied, they took 5 on and Steve was one of them, so.... Not an unintelligent man; just a product of a rough upbringing, doing things the way he knew how, and with nothing but hostility from the people in authority who he naively expected take over from him and do the right things. I would very much recommend watching this interview with him on Carl's Lotus Eaters site, it is very good for getting to know more about who the guy actually is: www.lotuseaters.com/common-sense-crusade-or-07-03-2024
An unfairly demonised Englishman - Most men would be proud to fight alongside him in War, with the knowledge that he would always have your back - a Coward he is not.........
you have to factor in growing up in luton as well , its not like living in other parts of the country , i went there for 2 years for a job, and have never been spat at so much , i came away hating them with a passion and will never have any more interactions with them, @@WraithOfMan
This is the best video on the subject that I've seen so far. I would have liked to hear more potential strategies to persuade people to get back to traditionalism, a path to get there, and what it would look like when/if we can say we've arrived (end goal). I am a U.S. citizen (American as some call us) by the way
@Letsthinkaboutit-mb7nn I agree, I stopped watching the lotus eaters and blocked it from recomendations because its almost entirely reactionary clickbait takes. Some of the hosts were ok, but Carl was not really one of the better ones. I still have respect for the guy for sticking to his principles and standing up but they descend into dumb turf wars too often for me.
"They had handed out that it is evil to be a Patriot, White, American, Religious and to be able to hold down a job...That there had ended any to all discussions, Period!" -- Tripwire
Diversity means encouraging diverse sexual tastes, inclusion means accepting all sexual tastes, and equality means thinking the same way about sexual tastes. It’s a materialist and hedonist philosophy.
We dont need to accept "all" s3xual tastes, like p3d0philia or other extreme things, we dont need to "encourage" s3xual tastes, just aknowledge them is enough ...
I can care less about other people's sex lives outside of my own when it does not involve things like being graped, children, dead bodies, animals, or related relatives. Also when I think about equality, I think about equal opportunity and equal protection under the law ( like what the United States have with the 14th Amendment and the Civil Rights Act ). By the way when it comes to this whole diversity thing ( which usually involves immigration ), it usually depends on the culture because that culture would determine if they can assimilate to that society or not.
@@25taylorkw The biggest leap that most stand-offish, tolerance types have yet to make is to realise that any behaviour that is permitted to be openly practised and celebrated by adults will eventually be pushed on children under the guise of 'education', 'preparing them for life' or general whynotism. That's why one of the best approaches to evaluating any political debate about legalising something is to ask yourself whether you would like to one day see your own children (hypothetical children if need be) exposed to or inducted into it.
I’m a 47yr old straight white guy from the UK, lived here my whole life, have both parents, worked my whole life, married, easy enough job, relatively OK money, only been on the dole once for a few weeks back in the 90s. I worked crappy menial jobs in hotels and McDonald’s for £1.30 an hour when I was a teenager in College. I WILL NOT be forced into feeling ANY guilt for being white, straight, or male. ESPECIALLY in a country that is 90% white, 97.5% straight, 99% binary. I’m not exactly proud of being any of this, but I refuse to start feeling any guilt, or think I owe any sort of reparations to anyone, or think that I’m somehow privileged to be any of these things. I never used to notice anything political, but the fact I’m now somehow a bad person in the eyes of the Left has made me politically minded, and I really dislike it. It’s not my fault when or where I was born. If someone else was born Black and in poverty, and I wasn’t, thats nothing to do with fairness or equality - it’s just reality.
The problem with unchecked Liberalism, is that as it progresses, it moves down the line from taking authority from the King, to undermining authority in any given hierarchy. It starts to fly apart when it gets to tearing down competence hierarchies. The end-boss of Liberalism is Your Dad.
That is purely retarded. I grew up rather poor. But my extended family were millionaires. My cousins grew up without worry. But they are geniunely kind and good people. Isnt it convenient that poor people think it's a blessing and have false pretenses of the wealthy because of TV lmao. It's like how many hyper wealthy people do you know and how many act moronic? You use the same way of thinking that leftists use
the people that say it's unfair that they have less than someone who had wealth passed down from parents who worked hard for it - are the same people who don't want to give up their selfish comforts and 'fun lifestyle' to bear & raise children of their own.
What’s unfair is cleaning up after a slob(s) who have been given free rent in the building I’m forced to clean up, among a litany of other duties, while being compensated equally, “free” rent. Welcome to managing apartment buildings in Los Angeles.
Since we all know equity is so important, why aren't we applying this in journalism? Equity is especially important with free speech & "our democracy"- isn't this the most important area for equity & diversity?
"It's unfair" is a category error. People can be unfair. If you think reality is unfair, go complain to reality, but don't think that your objection to reality entitles you to abuse other people.
One part which really stood out to me was the part of a man being discriminated against whilst trying to join the police force. It stood out because the same thing happened to my mum. She wanted to be a Police officer in what would have been the early to mid 80s I guess. She was told that she was too short and that she had glasses. These two factors stopped her even getting through the first stages. It was a clear no. Short and glasses, that's not allowed. Shortly after she met an Asian woman who was shorter than her, also needed glasses, and the Asian woman was just employed as a police officer. So it turns out it had nothing to do with eyesight and height. If my mum was not educated enough, they would have said that. If she was overweight/ not fit enough, they would have said that. If she was the wrong age, they would have said that. Why would they not tell you when it's something as benign as that. If they had to lie, it must have been based on something that could cause them embarrassment. And the obvious difference between this woman and my mum, which would cause embarrassment to the police, especially in the 80s before people started getting so butt hurt about everything, is that my mum was white and the other lady was not. My mum never had any ill well towards the woman. Nor did she ever use the experience to feel ill will towards any other race or minority. She always just felt frustration towards the police force. Because they clearly made exceptions to their normal rules to encourage DEI hiring before it was really a thing. And she always just felt frustrated that she had been clearly discriminated against. This is not equality. And in todays climate, compared to the 80s, we are going to see this racist bullshit again and again and again. It's wrong. And people know it's wrong. But it keeps happening.
This was a facinating interview. I don't know how I feel about immigration. I'm British but I grew up overseas most of my life and I moved back here. I met my husband overseas and he's moving here. We have been apart for 2 years with being able to see each other every 6 months. The spousal visa was really challenging, expensive especially when my husband earns in a much weaker currency. As equally I am appalled by the immigration happening into the UK, the hotel stays and free everything including gym memberships. There doesn't seem a normal balance. I am grateful my husband will be here soon.
@@rgghjs9270 For decades now I've been telling people that "Common sense isn't common and, to those who don't have it, it doesn't always make sense." I truly believe that "Common Sense" is an alternative word for wisdom. And, sadly, wisdom takes time. We aren't born with it, and the young don't want to hear it because it tells them that they are wrong.
@@schroecat1 One of my school teachers, back in the 60s, told me that common sense wasn't common when I observed that someone around me had no common sense. I was in my early teens at the time and I have never forgotten it. Just for the record her name was Mary Barratt. She has been dead for decades now but her wisdom lives on, as do my memories of a wonderful teacher.
“Characterise the world through its own lens”: What does that mean? You say you are priviliged because you are white. I suspect you come from a wealthy family, and that is the real reason you are privileged. However, speaking as someone from a modest background, so what. If your parents wish to help you, that is quite legal and nothing to be ashamed of. But you, and people in your position, shouldn’t promote black and brown people to make up for your privilege as that discriminates against white people from poor and modest backgrounds. The solution is to choose people on merit, and improve state education.
@@stephenparry6811 That is indeed a good question. A friend suggested banning private education, then posh people would make sure state education was good. Not sure I agree. A problem we have is huge class sizes, overworked teachers and children who aren’t taught to express themselves and debate. Katherine Birbelsingh has one answer.
Liberalism is: “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.” Clive Staple Lewis
The last job I had, held a meeting on such topics which informed us that we could no longer use the term “brainstorm”, instead we had to use, “blue sky thinking” because it may be hurtful to people with mental issues, I zoned out pretty quickly.
The biggest failure in this idea that, unequal outcomes must mean fairness, is that it eliminates the freedom to fail; and subsequently then to take risks. A lot of people conveniently overlook the fact that many people who are well off, have taken massive risk, and sometimes even were at one point exceedingly poor. It is the freedom to fail; to be subjected to and exposed to extreme failure, that allows people to actually succeed. Because you cannot have one without the other. So long as scarcity exists, there will always be people less off than others. And that's the second failure; evaluations of fairness based purely on the relative outcomes of two individuals is inherently itself unfair and pointless. It ignores that someone can be exceedingly lucky, even unfairly favored in a variety of ways, but still have a shit life. A great example of such a thing is the rich kid elite that winds up broke and homeless after squandering his family's wealth and constantly abusing his elite connections only to finally be abandoned by his friends and family.
99k subscribers and you're landing Carl, Doyley, FF, Posie, Lineham... The list goes on AND you're a sort of fanboi/poor mans Louis Theroux by your own admission. This channel is the channel to watch in 2024. Great convo, keep em coming!
The problem is not people earning a higher amount of wealth than others. The problem is that, once you have earned a certain level of wealth, it becomes like a form of gravity that attracts additional wealth which you did NOT work for. Like some billionaire once said, “Making your first million dollars is hard; making your hundredth million dollars is inevitable.” I guess one reason for this is the exponential amount of additional opportunities which present themselves to you, once you have a certain level of capital to invest.
I grew up blue collar. I worked two jobs well into my 20's. I put myself through college by taking out $80,000 in college loans and paying them off myself. I do very well with my tech degree. I grew up with a friend that was born into a very rich family. Went to some very expensive schools and then expensive, top universities. His parents paid for everything. Bought him a brand new car in high school and another one when he got out of college. His parents didn't leave the kids anything due to bad luck. Here we are decades later and he is now living the life my parents are and I am almost living a very good life. It isn't where you start. It is what your family teaches you and your own hard work and persistence. He had EVERYTHING going for him but lacked the family and ability to maintain or build it. The old saying is still true. It is NOT where you start but where you finish.
Not every rich people's kid turn out a success, but you are underplaying how much the wealth of your parents can affect your future success. Your friend did not have the mindset to make the best of what's given to him, but what if he did? He would have surpassed you in almost every aspect. Hard work only will never beat hard work and capital. Notice how the vast majority if not all current billionaires were born with a silver spoon in their mouth.
Well said. I really believe that the most important virtue is gratitude and being envious will be your downfall. You can literally do anything almost anything in life. The World isn't against you and everyone is just trying to get by; rich or poor. Just because you got handed a "bad hand" in life there is always someone who has it worse and you should be happy for what you have and what you can do every single day.
Carl has definitely hit the nail with that fairness argument. The thing is the left act as if the state are their parents. If a parent gave one child something which they didn't give to the other then it could be an unfairness, but they act as if the state is the parent so if they don't have something someone else has it must be an unfairness in their mind. It's madness. It shows why I've been saying for decades that we need to be combating this at the level of philosophy. We are fighting the ideologies that led to the French revolution et al but have infected our cultural understanding.
You have identified the key. Statists see the government as their fuhrer. Leftist Americans are even more absurd, because the founding fathers specifically rejected that relationship of state to citizen.
The left have left me politically homeless with my head in a spin. I find their arguments hypocritical on so many levels, yet I stand for a lot of it too. I am a disabled female, who strongly believes in treating everyone with respect, and free speech, and bodily autonomy, and I'm unvaccinated. I still can't share that fact with my left leaning friends and former colleagues, because most would still look down on me. The pandemic highlighted this huge and crazy irony to me. They fight for bodily autonomy, abortion rights (I'm very pro choice on that front too), yet they bullied and piled on anyone who didn't want the jab. They were happy to discriminate then. And suddenly I was aligned with people who were anti abortion but fighting for our bodily rights with the jab! Make it make sense!! I also suffer from an illness that has been medically and financially neglected, disbelieve and mocked yet is severely disabling. I find it insane that I suffer daily from an illness that might have been cured by now if it had had the right help and funding/attention. But I feel absolutely marginalised. I hate that the government benefits system is based on large scale fraud and lies, yet they push the narrative that it's the ones claiming who are the biggest fraudsters. Most people who have never applied for disability benefits have no idea of the extent to which the system is completely underhand and corrupt. They set dates on letters that you don't receive for 3 weeks, so that you are left with a week's deadline to complete their forms when you should have had a month. But they do it repeatedly. Their assessment reports are full of low, and feel like they've been written about a different person. They don't apply the law correctly on who or what should qualify. Assessors write total bullshit about you and they deliberately try to break the will of applicants so that they don't pursue the funding that they are legally entitled to. It's a cruel system and so many of my friends give up because they are too ill to fight it. I have seen public services decimated and lost jobs I loved as the money got tighter for picnic funding. For all of this, I hate the tories. I want to vote for a party that genuinely recognises my illness, and that does provide financial support cos I paid my taxes for years. I think people who are struggling deserve that much, and to not be scrutinised as if we are all liars and benefits cheats. I hate that they are threatening to scrutinise the bank accounts of anyone on benefits when there's no way the MPs would reveal their own. Have we forgotten the expenses scandal? I haven't given up on socialism, cos so much of this is wrong to me. But I don't belong there anymore. And i cannot spend my life celebrating equality when I don't have it and no one gives a crap cos unless you are flavour of the month, you don't matter. I can't even make my comment make sense, because none of the world makes sense to me anymore! And this talk has left me with more questions than answers.
As far as bodily autonomy and abortion, it makes perfect sense. Anti-abortionist is concerned with the bodily autonomy of the life that can't speak for themselves, so murdering that life is violating theirs.
I know what it's like to be disbelieved about your disability. The amount of abuse and scolding from my ex "friends" who claimed I was just exaggerating my disability as an excuse to be lazy, take pain killers and supposedly not be physically capable because I was just giving up the instant I hurt a little, when in fact I was drenched in sweat just trying to stay on my feet and act normal around them. I can sympathize with quite a lot of this as someone who's been on disability (in Canada) for 16 years, but I'm astonished at the British system you describe; at first I assumed you were talking about the United States. So far in 16 years, I haven't had one audit or form to fill out since I initially got on, even though they said they may check in once in a while. But the incompetence of the medical system I do know. I spent my whole life from age 16-34 getting worse and worse, in unbearable pain as every ligament, disk and vertebrae in my spine collapsed. Finally, at age 34, I found out what was causing it: spinal osteoporosis due to severe vitamin D malabsorption. All those years, and all that accumulated damage could have been prevented with a simple check of my vitamin D levels, which they never mentioned weren't included in general nutrient blood panels. I'm sorry for all you're going through, but don't give up hope, I spent many years certain that suicide would be my inevitable end; at least now I'm not degenerating further and I've lived for strength training for 3 years which has improved a lot. I never would have guessed things could actually improve, but it can sure take a while. Btw, good for you for not getting vaccinated, I really regret my triple shots now that I'm recovering from my 2nd bout of pericarditis thanks to that vaccine. It's a terrifying and very painful thing to go through with a long recovery.
"My government run healthcare system is corrupt and ridiculous. I still haven't given up on socialism tho. I want buying food and clothes to be equally corrupt and ridiculous."
Just food for thought. It's not as contradictory as you thought, that conservatives are pro-bodily-autonomy when it comes to the vaccine, but seemingly anti-bodily-autonomy when it comes to abortion. From the conservative perspective, the reason we are anti-abortion is specifically *because* of our belief in bodily autonomy. The difference is, we believe that you should have bodily autonomy over your own body, whereas the pro-abortion side believes you should have bodily autonomy over someone else's body. The fundamental disagreement is this. The baby's body, while it is inside of the mother, is not the mother's body. The baby has to be able to have bodily autonomy. And killing someone is absolutely taking away their bodily autonomy from them. Pro-abortion people often refer to abortion as healthcare. But is the baby's health being cared for? Bodily autonomy specifically means someone else can't tell you what to do with your body. And killing the baby is definitely doing something with it's body without it's consent. Just as you have a right to not be forced to take a vaccine, you also have a right to not be killed. Why would a human baby not share that same right?
@@douglasmurdoch7247 I'm pro choice up to 5 months, but yes I actually agree with this and it was really well worded. I've been listening to a ton of abortion debates and the pro-choice side that I'm on (only up to 5 months) tends to make the worst, most irrational arguments. I'm watching these debates because I'm always questioning, but it's silly to say pro-life means being against bodily autonomy, as if only one of the two bodies factors in. I'm just pro-choice because I have my own argument that I've yet to hear an argument against.
around that whole conversation of "fairness", that idea is why i had such a hard time with Christianity for so long. I couldn't see how it was "good"/fair for humanity to have free will if the cost was most would go to hell. I came to the realization i was looking at things through my definition of good, or how this conversation put it "making everyone equal sounds nice". It wasn't until i let go of my self imposed moral authority over what the definition of good was, that i saw that, yeah, free will is absolutely worth it. It isnt nice, but it is superior to everything else. Then i was on to another question, that was inevitably next in line. Here in this conversation Carl is spot on. Western Society has come to see equality as the highest moral, but we conflate too many things into equality that it makes it okay to be jealous or envious b/c someone was born into a wealthy family. Did they earn that, no. but it opens a truly f''d door to put parents making a better life for their kids in the "unfair" box. The only way to make everything equal is to make it so everyone has nothing. B/c you can only lift the mediocre so high, but you can always tear the great down farther. Even in that case tho, the enforcers will inevitably have more. There is no communist Utopia. There can be no Utopias where equality is the goal.
Yup. This is why I don’t understand why people have a problem with modern day slavery. Those kids just need to accept their lot, or they can always run away, or off themselves. But this is the natural way of things. Some become lions, some become gazelles. All we (those of us who “have”) can do is hope there really is no such thing as cosmic karma waiting to balance the scales after death. While those who “have not” can hope that there is.
To elaborate, Dankula was sick of his wife going on about how cute their pug was, so he taught it the forbidden salute before asking his wife if she thought he was so cute now. It was supposed to be funny because he superimposed evil onto cute to mock the wife. Then he got labelled for that and prosecuted. I've heard many top comedians say much worse. It's ridiculous.
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Woke is a moronic insult, why are you mixing with abusive wankers?
Is this hate speach shout I write gold is a відсталий? Means r ard in eglish. But slow in ukrainian. Does it not mean to retard something means to slow down? No wonder enlish is a confusing language, it's a unity of like 10 different languages
The left don't want equality any more - they don't even use the word anymore - now they use the word "equity" - which really means a reversal - so there is still inequality, but it's turned on its head.
Ooo, I know why! He was bullied at school.
Are we 2 year old's? Why are you blanking words?
“I have never understood why it is ‘greed’ to want to keep the money you have earned but not greed to want to take somebody else's money.” - Thomas Sowell
I guess the latter justifies themselves because it is being redistributed and for 'a greater good.'
A good, intelligent, self-made man who started on the 'left' and was honest enough to admit he was wrong. All the more valuable because he is a black man who can speak the truth without being accused of being a white supremacist, just an 'Uncle Tom'. 😐
A greater good, lol
@@marlonmoncrieffe0728 They say that but then they also hate charity. You helping someone isn't good enough. They need to take your $ and then spend it on that person but then you don't get any of the joy or credit the "government" helped them. Look at Mr Beast. I can't think of a nicer thing you could do then give someone water. I'm rather picky about my water and would never deprive someone of good water. That doesn't make sense to me to be mad at that unless they think the governments power is more important then a thirsty person? Have you ever been super dehydrated thirsty? It's the worst. Meanwhile the government uses my $ to buy bombs. That's not greater or good.
The quote makes a great point in principle, but technically speaking, it can be at least partially explained away via the subtle difference between "greed" and "envy". Where greed is the insatiable desire for more (even though the greedy person has enough), while envy is the desire for what someone else has (regardless of how much or little the envious person has).
I thought I was a leftist liberal - but now I am told that as an old, White, male hetrosexual patriot I am "far right". OK, no problem.
Just make sure you vote how they've branded you... much as you might not like it, this leftist crowd has gone around the bend. They need a few losses, and then you can go back to voting for normal liberals if they ever exist again.
Patton right etc etc
white and anti globalist, it's good enough
Absolute muppet.
What's your position on Putin, though?
I used to have outdoor toilet, no bathroom etc, grew up in Rochdale, started work for a builder, worked hard ( though I didnt realise it at the time) never did drugs, stayed with my kids mum. Eldest is now training as a chopper pilot and other two at private school. I am constantly referred to as priviledged or lucky by people who would never unblock a toilet, start work in the dark or put up with exhausting work. Scrape off those that drag you down.
Well done you!!
Brilliant! Great comment.
Really odd how people say individuals are privileged without knowing anything about them.
Depends on who is making the accusation, boomer generation was definitely privileged in comparison to later ones.
4 years average salary would get you a house, now it's 10 years. This means that someone now would have to do 2.5x as much as you to get the same thing.
Some may say that we have reached a point where it is a privilege to not be brought up to have a chip on your shoulder about race.
This guy isn’t far-right, he is just normal
Being normal is called far-right these days
@@thisisobviouslynotmyrealname what is nick fuentes?
They have spent an hour parsing "classical liberalism" (now called conservativism) from "progressivism".
@@thisismychannel607Nick Fuentes is an old school, pre-Vatican 2 Catholic. Prior to the 1960’s, it was perfectly normal for Catholics to regard Jews as evil, for condemning Christ, and to openly talk about it. After Vatican 2, this kind of talk was cancelled. Nick is reviving it
@@thisismychannel607 Lol cow that what he is.
I grew up in a left wing poverty-ridden hovel and the one person who tried to give me a break and get me a into a good school (primary school headteacher) was told to "get lost" because she couldn't guarantee the same for my siblings - neither of which studied anywhere near as hard as I did. As a result I was sent to an absolutely rotten secondary school where I was held back for three years for the rest of my year group to catch up with me.
That was my parents skewed interpretation of equity, it was soul destroying and I then had to spend 15 years fighting for the career I wanted the long way - only to be told at that point that as a white man I don't deserve it, and my only saving grace being that I am homosexual. It's lunacy.
Sorry to hear that, the lunacy 🤦♀️
That isn't only your parents' view of that. That is the socialist viewpoint as well. Everybody needs to be kept at the same level. However no one needs to be kept anywhere.
This is the lunacy of wanting fairness. It’s entirely unfair!
I tell my kids all the time, if you want things to be fair for you sometimes you have to share the fair so everyone can have some but that means when they have the fair you don’t and vice versa otherwise no one will have anything.
To be fair, the Right doesn't do sob stories, so.. toughen up? 😄
Clown world.
Massive fan of Carl, he got me into RUclips about a decade ago and thanks to him I never actually watch television anymore!
Ey up Boot. I feel the same about you x x x
Same here Royal 👍🤝
You and Carl would be interesting conversation
@@jamiebrooks3864 Yes this needs to happen!
@@hayleylongster4698 Thanks Hayley! 😊😊
The thing with Count Dankula is that you can't even make the argument that 'as a public figure he should have had more foresight and not do something so heinous to disrupt the peace'. Until you look into the situation and realize the dude had ten followers on RUclips and was just some guy until that incident occurred.
He was very fortunate that he built an audience. Everytime he got a job activists would contact the company he was working for until he was let go. Poor bloke would not be able to support his family without youtube.
I also somewhat fell for the media narrative on that whole case... Not like I love everything about Dankula but he didn't deserve what he got about all that, clearly.
I think that popular comedians should have the same freedoms as less known comedians.
I don't think that was their argument. I think it was more like" You made a joke we don't like" (Nobody was offended) That is why we went out searching for someone to be offended about a Austrian pug with artistic tendencys. " Oh it was a joke was it? Well too bad context don't matter" Now justice is served and we are such good and upstanding people.
Maybe you are aware of what they told him the context of his case did not matter. And this seems to be a theme with people who buy into this new cult.
That controversy never made any sense to me. The whole "dog raises paw to literally everything; I wonder if I can make him raise his paw to something utterly reprehensible to literally everyone..." joke is... y'know... predicated on the notion that not-zee-ism _is_ utterly reprehensible to literally everyone. The joke is that the dog is dumb. There are a million jokes on the Internet that run on this premise. But there I go again, trying to rationally understand the thought process of irrational people.
Next you'll be telling me that Noelle from BapKat (a guy plays Cards Against Humanity with his cat) is _actually_ a domestic tear-your-wrist...
I am born a lower working class man, when I was young we were so poor that we literally couldn’t afford to keep the lights on, or the heating. My mother’s car was repossessed and at Christmas there was only ever a present or two for both me and my brother. Yet not once, never once did I ever at any point of my life feel envious for what others had. Even the most richest of the people I have known in my time on God’s good Earth I never once demanded for what they had or was angry that I had so little. I’m a self employed tradesman, so I work for a variety of different people of different social classes. From very high to the very low. And always everyone is polite and respectful, they always make us a cup of tea, and never did I feel angry at looking at their big houses or land or cars or anything. Grow up, do your best and try hard to succeed where you’re skilled and for goodness sake, get a real job! You might not live rich, but you will live happily.
Underrated comment. Just really wholesome stuff and true to life. Alternatively, go work for part of gov't or any big corporate structure if you want to learn the value of "job satisfaction". You don't have to be depressed or anxious all the time. God bless.
@@WK-47 God bless you also.
Exactly.
Similar to me that marra. Good on ya.
well said, but the your government has been transferring wealth from the middle and lower class for years, especially in 2008 and covid. if I have £800 million, my children will own your children's houses and collect rent. that's a problem!
There's no guilt for what is given to you by your parents. There's no honour for giving to other people what is not yours.
And if someone inherits a lot they can always give it to a worthy cause, which is infinitely better than the government stealing it.
I think it's relative. There's not much pride in being a trustafarian
@@jayjaydubful
And in my experience most trustafarians are left wing.
Funny that huh?
Funny how the left is always so happy to embrace the wealthy and upper classes if they say the correct things.
You don't see many of the antifa lot turning on those amongst them who are very wealthy (tends to only be revealed when the police and the newspapers get involved).
@@jayjaydubful Why? You know how easy it would be to piss all that inherited wealth away? Some people inherit wealth and are able to maintain or build on it by the time they pass it on to their kids, which would require a certain amount of will power, discipline, and self control that one could take a certain amount of pride in.
@@jayjaydubfulbecause you are not one?
I grew up in Glasgow in the 1980s and 90s. Saw drug dealers chop a guys ear of after torturing him. My uncle had about 6 slash marks on his face. Alcohol and violence everywhere. Used to steal toys from the council bins. I never knew that was privilege. I really didn't. Meanwhile, a black immigrant getting £37,011 in benefits (I work in the system and this is an actual case from this morning) are underprivileged. Who knew.
Yeah, it is insane how society sees Sir Toff Toffington III on TV and wants to sweepingly apply his position to all white men. Our childhoods were brutal and honestly quite frightening looking back.
@@loganblackwood2922 Agreed. I hung about with about 20 lads. Every single one got stabbed or slashed at some point except me and one mate who went on to join the merchant navy. I got into boxing and mma. And we weren't even bad lads.
Meanwhile black boys in London have PlayStation, Xbox and gucci trainers but are victims. It's all about justifying destroying white people. One day it'll come to a head.
@@stephenmurray2851We were messed up kids at the end of it all and some of us found a productive outlet for that pent up aggression, military, boxing, MMA and others found less productive means and ended up in prison or removed from the server of life. Looking back, so much of it came from no structure, no fathers and just outright nobody to care. And now? More of the same. It's terrible.
Why don't you blow the whistle on what you see? Go to independent journalists and get this info out there, you never know good may come from it
£37k that's fucking outrageous.
Andrew, get over yourself and stop thinking you don't deserve what you have. I was born working class and have worked hard to create a better future for my children. They deserve it, because I have been making choices, that others haven't, to benefit them. Myself and my wife, and two children, lived in a small two bedroom flat with relatively good wages, just to save money to secure their future. We could have wined and dined ourselves but chose to save for our children's future. We don't drink, smoke etc. So my children will hopefully benefit from this. Why should my choices help another persons child? A person who has not made the same sacrifices as me.
100%
👏👏 exactly right mate. We work now so they have a better start than we do. Enforcing shame on the same children that you worked your hands to the bone to help, robs all meaning from 5 decades of your life.
I commend your efforts and I would hope that even though you have made sacrifices to spare your children the same hardship, you can also give them the wisdom of the reward of hard work.
I have seen so many examples where the parents worked so hard for their children, but failed to show them how valuable the gift that they gave them was...
The Working Class needs to hear more voices like yours.
How do you feel about people with 'old money ' who never worked parents never worked etc.? I think that's where the problem is.
Carl is not far right. Not even moderate right.
How is Carl not moderate right? He values family, freedom, ineqality to bring out diversity as opposed to different races with the same ideas, responsibility, respect and fairness.
@@markmiddaugh8203 He is controlled opposition. He pretends to value those things but only in a symbolic way. He selects only safe issues to disagree with- and only to an extent that would never exclude him from appearing on mainstream programs.
His alliances are very elastic.
right or not, Carl is apparently not too clever
@@MrMathevron Bingo,triple bingo!
Carl is deeply decent and thoughtful. Just my 2 cents…
Voted remain, always voted Labour. Considered myself left. I was wrong. The hysterical self flagellating want me to hate myself and hate my history. It wants me to prostrate myself on every issue. I WAS the work moaner. I was the family gathering hysteric. And here's the shocking lesson I learnt BLM, woke politics,trans, whitewashing etc isn't just despised by me. About 7 months ago I started working with younger people. From ages 20- 35 mainly. Dozens. And all they talk about is being so fed up of left wing hysterics. That jobs should be given by the colour of skin and not talent, that every issue should have you tearing up paintings and glueing yourself to the road hysterical mental breakdowns. Its changing people, they're driving everyone to the same politics my grandfather did. And I'm all for it.
The word that describes this is Dogmatism. For some people, this is their everything; their character.
being a leftist hasnt nothing to do with identity politics wokeism BS.
@@artofw4r291 Purely a coincidence that those two always go hand in hand, no link there at all.
Yep. Many of us have left The Left. Or really The Left left us. I wont be voting for any left-wing parties as they currently stand. Not because I'm not left-wing or liberal but because these parties and even many conservative MPs are liberalism on steroids. Nadine Dorris from the Tories wanted to ban "offensive" comedy and many Conservative MPs including Boris signed a petition to ban blacking up on comedy. Which is utterly ridiculous. It completely ignores context. Should we ban White Chicks and Mrs Doubtfire? These people are certified crazy. Im voting Reform and seeing how they fare. I dont care anymore. The other parties are done.
@@cousinzeke4888 well tbf only 55% of left-wingers call themselves woke. Many of those may not call themselves woke anymore as that was an old poll and many may now be right-wing but only due to an overtun shift.
I agree on Tommy. He's been a crass guy who has said stuff without thinking back in the day, but that hardly makes someone a villain. He was a family man and a business owner who noticed some shady stuff going on with a particular immigrant community and started calling them out for it - that's why he's considered racist/xenophobic. Problem is (as Carl pointed out) Tommy was right and everyone can see it now.
You call grooming gangs 'shady stuff' ? Repeatedly raping and abusing young white girls and passing them around is just 'shady stuff'? A disgusting crime perpetrated on a mass scale by an ever increasing ethnic group of a certain persuasion that is now openly intimidating the general population and the establishment. The same establishment that had conspired to shield them for years. Or perhaps you're thinking that because the girls were white they had some 'immeasurable advantages' like Andrew.
'Shady stuff' is how you refer to the nationwide disgusting 'cultural' activities of the Pakistani grooming gangs? Are you suggesting that if only TR had given a little more thought to the situation he could have rephrased his responses nicely without upsetting his betters who were shielding the gangs?
@@judithcressey1682 It's actually difficult to find words that are strong enough. Words like criminal, disgusting, appalling etc. all don't seem adequate for the rapists or the system that was scared to punish them.
Completely agree, what the media believe is if you call someone a racist far right thug often enough people will believe it. Its the same with Enoch Powel, you ask anybody today about him first thing they will say is racist.not because they know it but because they have been told he is often enough.
It was personal. His cousin was raped by a grooming gang and his mate started to become a Muslim extremist and there were Muslims flying the ISIS banner in his town at one protest.
Strange that the sanest and bravest cultural commentor we have came out of gaming, not academia or politics. Take a bow Sargon and God help us.
Carl is essentially the recruiting Sergeant of the new political model army that England and the UK needs for the coning civil strife/war. He has done an exceptional amount of work, reading and studying, and he is perfectly placed to enroll new recruits in his position on RUclips. But the movement needs generals with vision and IQ at least 20 to 30 points higher to develop a plan to bring about the Reconquista/Restoration of England (political and ethical, and probably religious). They will need to have Trump-like ability to be unwounded by the slings and arrows of mainstream media and judicial system, they will need to be self-funding to remain above commercial sirens calling to them, and have sufficient megalomania to want to take the job and yet sufficient self-control to ensure that we do not over-compensate as they drag the political pendulum back towards centre-right.
Who and where are the generals?
@@golfbulldog until it becomes to modern relationships and then he is clueless and naive
We just wanted to game bro
@@James_36 Go to church and find a partner.
@@golfbulldog I got a partner, Tradcon women are among the worse lol
That was lovely. It was great to become acquainted with this interviewer!
Thank you!
the psychological subversion is so intense on our people that we seem to even think we don't deserve the blessings given by our parents.
Exactly this.
Without the innitial narcicism of weakminded & also stupid individuals this level of social engineering wouldn't be possible.
Y'all are so close, just ask WHO and WHY for the subversion...
We know
So fucking true
Being a lefty nowadays is so performative, don’t think just obey
To them, life is easier that way
I think the crazy thing is how the left have essentially dropped impoverished workers completely. It's a phenomenon of middle class college kids being all theatrical and towing the line on eco-fraudulance and cultural wokeness while they don't give two shits about the ordinary people clocking in and out for 40 hours a week doing mundane jobs.
When I meet the more old style of leftists whose political philosophy centres around making work pay, nationalisation etc I don't necessarily agree but they seem more switched on and it's a legitimate thing to bring to political discourse. But the 2024 culture wars kids that want to topple statues can get in the sea.
@@Hazamandeous I'm a lefty. I like to think that I think. Why not ask me a question or two? Turing test me.
@@malirk Do you believe in ACAB?
@@MrHeavy466 Some cops are bad. Some are good. The best we can do is point out the good examples of policing and bad examples. Blanket statements allows for abuse to be called out or does not seek to improve a system.
We need to address issues with policing in the US. Take a look at many points made from liberal organizations. A lot of people (Like myself) want funds somewhat reallocated. Take for example someone is doing drugs and having problems, someone for security (police) and someone who has mental health / addiction training would be best to intervene with this individual.
I want better resources for our society when it comes to helping people who take a detrimental path. The goal of these resources is to rehabilitate these individuals. A lot of the system right now is built off profit which is a major incentive (flaw in my view) that keeps the system perpetuating itself.
I'm the same!!!! I was left wing voter for 20 years but I will never vote left again
Thomas Jefferson was wrong to say that the best government is that which governs least. Likewise its wrong to say the best government is that which governs most. Instead the best government is that which governs most justly for all members in the polity. The ancient Western-knowing : Justice is that which one does for another.
Left how? Labour party? Democrats? Greens?
Ditto. The reaction to Brexit was the clincher and the Left have really exposed their dark side since with their Critical Theory bullshit.
@@powderandpaint14All of the above are in thrall to the Woke (Critical Theory) ideology/cult.
@@JMUL15 I'm asking the OP who they voted for specifically.
The equality that was promised under classical liberalism was equality of rights and equality under the law. No one ever promised equality of outcome, so it's a misunderstanding of the concept that people are simply stipulating. And it is that misunderstanding that makes it easy to lead people to think socialism is desirable.
"The equality that was promised under classical liberalism was equality of rights and equality under the law."
Liberalism is bullshit ideology since rights are not magical...
The rights you have are GIVEN TO YOU by other people...
As a human being you have no rights other then what is given to you.
Socialism is a at least somewhat rooted in materialism while liberalism is pure abstract BS.
"No one ever promised equality of outcome"
Because you need to have equality of outcome for people to have the same rights...
Thats the problem you libtards dont understand...
Talking to a libtard is like talking to a person with a down syndrome... except people with down syndrome have three digit IQ compared to a libtards.
In the US rich people have far better right to "free" speech then poor person on a basis they can afford defending their speech in court even if they battle for decades. And yes there were many cases in which companies won their right to free speech in court while poorer people folded for economic reasons.
Infact most times you hear "settlement" its not admission of guilt its rather people/companies folding for being cheaper option.
Equality of opportunity and equality of outcome are too often conflated. The sad thing is that Trans activists are not even after equality of outcome, but inequality of outcome to the detriment of the rest of society.
@@foulplay99
"Equality of opportunity and equality of outcome are too often conflated. "
They are the same thing once you strip the abstract esoteric liberal garbage.
Liberals are masters of selling you smoke and mirrors.
Equality of opportunity means everyone has a chance to do x... except in reality only select few have chance to do x.
People who are selling you the idea of "equality of opportunity" are the same people who will complain the most about nepotism, discrimination based on politics and corruption which is wild because those 3 things invalidate their BS.
If I want to become a hollywood writer and I am on the right I will not get hired... no matter how good writer I am.
One thing I learned is that the left are nothing more but liberals coming to its logical conclusion.
Liberals said religion will no longer play an important role in statecraft and left said no more religion.
Its a next logical step.
Liberals said we will get rid of all the previous forms of hierarchy (nobles, clergy) and left said lets remove all forms of hierarchy.
If you are a liberal and you go against the left you will lose on every point even when it comes to use of political violence liberals are no position to claim political violence is bad when their entire history is based around political violence and terrorism cough* french revolution.
Right wing liberals are funny people because they will never counter leftists with liberalism instead they will use nature, religion basically arguments that are not rooted in liberalism
The absolute disdain people have when talking about white people, specifically white men, along with Christianity and Britain/ Americanism is staggering.
It's literal racism, sexism and religious intolerance, but so long as the narrative is controlled it's permissible.
It wouldn't be too much of an issue if it wasn't backed up and promoted by *the state*
White privileges do indeed exist, but they are negated by the disadvantages.
Those disadvantages being:
- No semblance of culture or homogeneity
- Disproportionately the victim of hate crimes
- Disproportionately taxed at higher rates
- No scholarships or quotas, you simply have to be exceptional to thrive
- An entire media industry that is hell bent on unfavourable comparisons between your kind and everyone else's kind (white men can't jump, white people age bad, white people smell, white people have big noses, white people are slow, white people have smaller genitalia, white people can't dance etc) and then the gaslighting that comes along with that.
This stuff would not fly under the current cultural and legal system if it was reversed.
If so many white men weren't so bigoted they'd probably get more respect. Nobody has disdain for me because I'm white. It really does pay to be an egalitarian.
As someone who grew up in New Mexico, USA where I was always the minority yeah this gets me right in my core. Feels bad man. I remember being super mad at my 6th grade Spanish teacher just because he loved his culture so much. It took me a long time to figure out why he made me mad. Because I wasn't allowed to love myself like that. By age 12 I had already been taught to hate myself. "You didn't build that" President Obama said once referring to a bridge. This country just popped up or slaves did it. I should have no pride. But crimes in the past? Even though half my family were northerner colonists and the other half immigrated after the civil war that's my fault.
@drak976
Yeah, I love how my greatgrandpa who emigrated to the Midwest in 1914, and immediately started working in coal mines as a 15 yr
old oppressed all those people before him. I'm 4th gen American and we've all be either/and coal miners, factory workers, laborers, and vets.
@drak976
Great Grandpa emigrated from Britain btw. I presume he saw the writing on the wall about WW1
But those white men are some of the biggest bigots in history. SERIOUSLY! Have you even bothered to see what they got up to in Medieval times? Bunch of c*nts!
I mean. I'm a white male, and I'm fine with who I am, because I'm not a bigoted little shit, but some of our guys are so pathetic and so weak when it comes to Equality.
If I was ever going to become embarrassed because of other white men, there has never been a better time because of all their constant whining and cowardice in the face of a tiny little bit of equality for the people we normally treat as slaves. Blacks, browns., wives. Let's face it, white men are truly a dysfunctional bunch of wankers most of the time. I'm OK. Not sure about the rest of you.
From Argentina,
total support against woke globalist agenda.
Afuera!
@@sid2112 So, how's the central bank's hire from Deutsch Bank and JP Morgan working out?
So how's that economy of yours going under your far right government?
@@SirBlackReeds Who, Brandon? That dude needs hospice.
You live in a fantasy world
As a person born to a single mother in a rotting council maisonette who from 3 to 11 waa abused by my stepdad, i do not begrudge you having opportunities that i didn't.
@nagillim7915 I’m sorry to hear of your terrible upbringing. May I ask how you got out or through it?
He had those opportunities owing to hereditary wealth, not owing to his hard work or merit. Just because you're happy for children to grow up destitute, doesn't mean modern society agrees with you.
@@emmab2136-o3vdid you even understand anything that was spoken about in this discussion?
Who is happy for 'kids to grow up destitute'? No one said that did they?@@emmab2136-o3v
@@emmab2136-o3v your syllogism is off.
I've written extensively about the origins of Left and Right. It goes back to the 1789 French Revolution, but the most recent twist came from Stalin, who called the Nazis the "right wing" of SOCIALISM. This linked "right wing" to Nazis, when in fact they were on the right edge of the Left!! Being on the Right actually means positing freedom as the basis of society. All reasonable people are on the Right. Being on the Left means forcing "equality" prior to freedom, i.e. the establishment of a strong State, whether Communist, Fascist, or other.
All collectivism ultimately stems from left wing thought. Communism, Socialism, Fascism and National Socialism are just different branches with the same core functions. Anyone with a modicum of interest in history and especially Nazi Germany know how similar their policies were to for example the Soviet Union. It's the biggest false narrative in recent history that the Nazis were somehow right wing, but it's still perpetrated by millions to this day and taught in school as absolute fact.
Where did you write about that?
Right, so the Nazis were socialist because their name was National Socialism? Are North Korea democratic, since their name is the Democratic People's Republic of Korea?
As far as I was aware, the right is conservatism, and the left is progressivism. And you can have varying degrees of liberal or authoritarianism for both.
Instead of examining each issue on its own merits, Left Right pre determined and prescribed identity politics is destroying western society.
Sargon is so genuine and classy. It is always a pleasure to see him talk.
He's also a fascist
carl banjamin 2016 ''im a classical liberal'' 2024 ''im just about as far right as you can get''. this is the way
Those 2 statements are the exact same though
@@darkma1ice no they are not, Liberalism is a blight on the world.
@@Sevaria
Classical liberalism, modern day would be libertarianism, is considered right-wing sometimes even far-right.
@@Web720 classical liberalism is not right-wing.
@@Sevarianot sure what you think liberalism is. It's the Enlightenment ideal of individualism. It makes capitalism possible. It's the opposite of statist and collectivist ideologies like Communism and Fascism. In the US, traditional Republicans and Democrats are both liberalist.
Very interesting. On the point about individuals controlling their own lives, here is my example.
I’m an Australian woman.
As a full-time public servant, I decided to study law at evening classes. I did get study leave (time off) as part of the enterprise bargain agreement with my employer, which I used as time to drive to the law school. I paid for tuition fees, books, travel, etc. I used my vacation leave to study and attend exams.
Several of my colleagues were involved in family life and made different choices, while their children were young.
Some of them asked me why I bothered to try to get legal qualifications. I said I was interested and had the time to do it. They thought I was silly to make the effort.
When I completed my course and won a promotion, several of them were put out, and couldn’t understand why I won the job with the higher salary, and more responsibilities. So my effort, time, persistence, diligence and expenditure had no value for them. It all came down to unfairness because my position improved, relative to their stagnant position, over a 4-5 year period of my part-time study.
I came from a low income family in an impoverished area. My primary school was a demonstration school within the Catholic school system, so they tried out new methods on my school. My one benefit was my intelligence, and my ability to use my opportunities. How is that unfair if someone else had a different school environment, chose a different path, a different lifestyle, family structure and use of their personal time and effort?
I did get some affirmative action boost as a woman when I applied for jobs within the public sector but only so that I could reach the interview and not be culled because I was not male. It took several attempts and significant improvement in my performance at interviews before I cracked a win, and got two different promotions within the same week. So it was not based on affirmative action in the end.
I may be white but, with two convicts in my family tree, I am not privileged.
And the blocking of white males on non-merit grounds is definitely unfair.
I’m a Minarchist who wants people to be free to associate and transact as they see fit. It’s shocking how rapidly in these last few years my stances on individual freedom and limits on the reach of government have gotten me labeled as “far-right” and how when I express them in certain circles I’ve been accused of being a Not See.
Can’t quite figure out how an anti-authoritarian egalitarian who believes in the intrinsic value of all mankind is now controversial or even “hateful” 🤷♂️
It's collective mental rot that has set in and metastasized to full-blown malignant tumor. It can be painful when friends get caught up in it to the level of cult-like frenzy. Although the cost of getting in line and immediately engaging in lock-step mindless puppetry is too high, IMO. Find new friends who like you for you AND who expend the effort to know who you truly are, not some caricature they can manipulate to their narcissistic whims. Don't give over your power to the name-callers whose lust for control is their end-goal.
Well your not a communist thats whats wrong.
Because the people criticising you ARE authoritarian , in that they believe their opinion is the only valid one . Further , they are ANTI egalitarian by virtue of wanting to exalt some protected groups above the rest .
I’ve always felt anarchists have more in common with the right, ie no government
Cringe Minarchist vs chad Ancap
I have an immense admiration for Carl, he's done a lot of hard work and actually has done the thing that everyone likes to pretend they've done, he researched the ideology of his opponents extensively, all of it, he understands it more thoroughly even than they do, and it is from that understanding that he's constructed his opinions.
That knowledge has rendered him quite wise and effective at communicating where these concepts lead to, and it's always fascinating to hear him speak on these topics.
He does? I doubt he’s ever read Karl Marx. If he did, he is utterly incapable of steelmanning the arguments. The guy just barfs one strawman after the other and doesn’t source anything (because he can’t).
@@chaosinfusion8127 Not sure if you're serious, or if you're letting your own bias influence your perceptions.
He's citing the philosophers directly who are the source of these movements and ideaologies.
So yes, he has read it at least a couple times iirc. If you'd like a good example of him doing his research on an opposing position, you can check out his videos dissecting Critical Race Theory.
Maybe you'll appreciate his thorough treatment of the source material there? Since he literally goes through their massive complete textbook and points out what they are literally saying.
And these are the people who started these ideologies, the people who coined the terms and everything.
@@chaosinfusion8127 He literally runs a channel called Lotus Eaters where they do all kinds of side projects doing EXACTLY that.
Say you know literally nothing in regards to what you are talking about in fewer words, he HAS read Marx. He's talked about his readings. His CREW has talked about their readings.
In fact, what he responds to and talks about is usually what other people are saying, verbatim, in general.
He knows more about classical philosophy than grievance theories. Would be good to see him have a sit down with James Lindsay
@@Moon-Labs Him and James had a long conversation on Benjamin Boyce's channel a while back. I'll have to listen to it again. Unfortunately some time recently James and Carl seem to have had a falling out but not sure why. I really appreciate both of them. My friend Pete worked with James on the Grievance Studies Affair back in 2017-2018. James has two podcasts: An introduction to classical liberalism and the problems with it.
Equality of outcome will always result in the lowest common denominator.
Except for those running the system. The ones who say power is everything to get that system enacted, then become the narrowist of monopolies
"Spreading the misery around." Also, the imaginary utopia these nuts want always requires an oppressive state to administer it. It simply can't exist in a way that the average person would actually like or benefit from it.
@@ironheadedDoFbecause communists always think they’ll get be to benevolent dictatorship of the proletariat
Except for the “Party” members.
All current parties may as well combine and just rename themselves “Ingsoc” as that is where they want to go.
@@ironheadedDoF @kwc1138 I would refer back to a great book Dawkin's "The Selfish Gene" which is kind of a goofy clickbait title because it makes it seem like there is 1 selfish gene when his argument is much more that genes are selfish. Anyways if I interpreted his book correctly his argument was all behavior was tied directly to reproduction hence selfish genes. So me in my peasant mind think the behavior we see is the elite trying to get normal people not to breed so that their "elite" genes can more easily propagate. "No don't have kids thats wrong" while they plow through endless well youtube won't let me use words but uhh young ladies.
I have been waiitng about 18months for an NHS specialist appointment. Free at the point of use yes, but approx £200/month of my taxes is going to the NHS probably so that is £2,400/year to not get an appointment. It is a no brainer to go private, sure, you spend an extra £600/year, but you get an appointment within 2 weeks. NHS needs totally reformed.
It's a shame you don't get to opt out of paying tax for the NHS in that circumstance, but we all know what would happen if all private people stopped paying for the NHS.
I can promise you, he’s not as far right as it gets.
you do need to entertain the person's definition to understand what is meant.
Hehehehhehe
Maybe. But maybe also he should be.
@@quinnimon nah
@@stevenobrien7686 Yes, he should be much further right.
When I realized that BBC news wasn't actually the news but was just updates on the narrative, I started to look into what other things there were that may not be as true as they say. Tommy Robinson was one of those subjects. I watched his speech at the Oxford Union which totally changed my mind and frankly made me distrust the BBC even more. If you want to learn about the guy or want somewhere to start learning about him then this is a good place. He talks openly and honestly (I believe) about his life growing up on the estates and how he ended up being public enemy number one.
I had the same experience watching that Oxford Union speech. I was raised a lefty and grew up hating Robinson.
He's the perfect example of the fact that most left wingers actually despise the average working class British person.
Me three. BBC must fall. Used to think it was the best. No more
@@SolarJakeeand some middle class also desperately crave not to be identified with the working class, in a desperate desire to be part of the elite. As if that will save them.
This this this.
Look for yourselves.
Carl is a calming presence for me. I see Carl, i click
Me too. I feel like he comforts my brain
He puts our thoughts into words very eloequently and adds cause and reason.
Uncle Benjamin
No. Russell Brand is not the "elite." He's an entertainer who has become interested in politics and philosophy and political philosophy and comments on them. And encourages others to do their own thinking on the subjects. "Elites" don't encourage thought that contravenes their own status.
And he is highly intelligent and courageous.
100,000 people have 2 arms, 3 people have 1, so we have decided to make things fair.
I really enjoyed this discussion. Big fan of both yourself and Carl. With regards to Tommy Robinson he gave a talk at the Oxford Union, which is available here on youtube, and that was extremely interesting. If you can find that it tells you a lot about why Tommy is the way he is. Tommy is not a racist and he's not anti Muslim he's anti Islamist. In fact he came to the defence of a Muslim that was wrongly accused. Tommy is perhaps the most oppressed and maligned individual in the UK.
I always recommend that Oxford Union talk. Was amazing.
I truly believe they went after him so hard in order to use him as a scapegoat to give a reason to continue to ignore the crimes he was highlighting. That it turned out that even a member of the royal family was involved in that stuff says a lot.
TR is containment.
And who's maligning him? The rulers are. Tells you something about the rulers. And your "royal family" of crooks.
To think that anyone anywhere can "correct" all of the inequalities in the world is the very height of foolish narcissisms.
The only thing you maybe(and only maybe) have any real chance of fixing is yourself.
I grew up as a 'normie' until, over a twenty year period, I gradually noticed more and more unusual changes in my community which were mostly due to immigration. I used to think that mass-immigration was like a natural phenomenon which cant be stopped, like the tides or the sunrise. However, I now realize that it's due to a relatively small number of elites who exploit immigration for profit...I now believe that it cant only be stopped but can even be reversed with enough political will.
Okay.. I have watched every episode.. this one went by so quickly.
I was glued to the entire episode... fabulous!!!
Welcome aboard. Between Carl and his hoards, there’s so much more to behold. Sincerely, welcome.
@@zedasamuel7164 A hoard would be a treasure like smaug. I'm assuming you meant horde like tons of random guys who are looking for a sausage roll. I ate one of those the other day. It was dreadful. My child wisely ordered a croissant with eggs and they seemed far happier. I always order the worst things on the menu it's not even about $ I just have bad taste.
“May the wings of liberty never lose a feather.”
- Jack Burton, Big Trouble in Little China
One of the best quotes I’ve read in a comment section 👌 absolutely brilliant film
A true American.
Jack who?...
Captain of the Porkchop express.
Old jack burton on the pork chop express and im talking to anyone who is listening out there.
I really enjoyed watching this interview/chat. I like how rather than arguing, you challenged Carl on why he sees and believes things in the way he does. Subscribed
This is the interview I'm delighted to see.
100% agree with the Tommy Robinson comment. 100%. It’s actually been a privilege watching the way that man has handled himself.
He is a strong man of conviction. They have so easily smeared him because he is working class. They don't want strong men of a larger class than the political elite.
It's not about what JK Rowling said.
It's that when they asked for "donation" money she refused.
So a literal shakedown? I'm sadly not even surprised.
"Pay the tithes, rich 'ally'! PAY THE TITHES, or we cancel you!!"
Explains a lot.
She did side with female biologist who wouldn't accept troons as women. Which she wasn't wrong to do either. The calls for her to donate to the "cause" was supposed to be a means of her getting back into their good graces.
Yeah what's so frustrating is legit "far right" stuff isn't even remotely possible in the modern age, the Overton Window is way past that. So literally every policy that comes up that is supposedly "far right", i always think is a critically needed idea.
Sir Carl Benjamin.
The King didn't knight him.
We did.
i was thinking the other day that it would wind the establisment up no end if we called someone sir, (i was thinking of tommy robinson ) , who is to say only those few elites get to decide who we, the people, look up to and appreciate , i mean they gave one to jimmy saville
@@NOT_SURE..That's a fantastic idea.
Sir Tommy it is then . and i reckon carl deserves an OBE for having fish thrown at him in a swindon market place.@@TheJeremyKentBGross
So just Carl Benjamin then
@@NOT_SURE.. I mean, I should think. Despite Carl and I being somewhat lacking in the faith in the supernatural department, I couldn't help but feel, watching those videos, that he was legit "doing the lords work." To me that's what it looks like, what it feels like, and more so than I've generally seen or felt from any actual religious people.
I am not sure if this guy is being hyperbolic for the sake of entertainment, but the fact that he is genuinely perplexed that Carl had a job that involved cleaning toilets appeared to have broken his mind. I think he perfectly represents the thinking of the middle class in this country and why they are so hateful, whether he intentionally meant to do that or not.
All the Hate and bollocks is coming from the Left in this country. Someone's Class has nothing to do with it. The Lefts ideology is the politics of envy and hate is written in to it.
Im working class and would be shocked if my mate cleaned bogs. Are you judging him as middle class?
I've cleaned toilets and I have a degree!
@@DarkAngel2512define "working class" because I have a feeling it isnt what is traditionally meant by "working class."
@@DarkAngel2512Do you never leave your basement?
I personally think Carl is the one man that really has a great hold on what all of this is about, he nearly always has a great awnser for seemingly complicated topics.
Very excellent analysis. But the problem is that it’s equality under the law that counts and achievable, not equality across the board.
I was left wing, the left moved so far to the left of Stalin that without changing any opinion I became right wing
Same.
The left/right divide has never changed. Focus has just shifted further left on the spectrum.
Same. I'm basically a classical liberal. Free speech, legalize drugs, secularism. When I was a kid it was the Christian right trying to ban video games and rap. Now the Puritans are on the left.
@@Jackalos1wrong!
@@reanukeevesau Wow, that's a very compelling argument. I will have to reconsider my thoughts on the subject.
Funny no more: I can't find 'Yes, Minister' or 'Yes, Prime Minister' funny now that I know they are not sitcoms but documentaries.
I don't think it stops it being funny, but I get what you mean... It's kinda scary/frustrating/depressing/etc. as well...
Back around 2008 I imagined a comic about a dystopian future where even cold hard facts from the ONS / American equivalents could be "hate speech" if "used in the wrong way".
It came true before I could even draw it.
That's what makes them funny.
It's funny because it's true.
It's less funny in real life but this is partially our fault for allowing these criminals to rule us.
The Nations of Sanity project presents the solution.
The most shocking part of this for me was, this bloke hasn’t heard of a rich tea
he only eats gold encrusted biscuits because he was a privileged little white boy
He isn't English so not shocking at all really.
Wasn't it shocking the other guy knew the most common biscuit used in that game?
This was a very engrossing conversation. You've earned my subscription.
The segment about joking about minorities mirror the victim hood movement. Being a victim works in this ideological climate. Thank you both for this conversation ❤
I love you. I love Carl. I loved this. Regarding The N Word. I was told that it is not my word to use. I retorted that that was ridiculous, as nobody owns language. I asked if he considered any other words taboo, and got ghosted. I have custody of my 13 year old grandson. It's really difficult to deprogram him from the shit they tell him at school. But by god I'm trying.
why would you actually want to say the N word?
Maybe she would be met with. A black criminal who would kill her son, at that point, why wouldn't it be fair for her to use the N-word (i would write it down but it would disappear)
@@bengreen171 He doesn't need to give you a reason to use a word
@@johnw9038
why are you misgendering them?
@@bengreen171 she really likes 90's rap music and doesn't want to be criminalised for singing along
Peterson in an interview not too long ago said something like: thinking about yourself is the same thing as misery. This put me onto a study that differentiated between self-rumination and self-reflection, and how the former was directly correlated with increase in depressive behaviours.
When Carl mentioned that we wouldn't be in the ideological crap hole we're in if we had some real problems to deal with, that made me connect with the above. Are we as a society depressed?
Because it seems strange that we would just curl up and die when met with all the attacks thrown at the UK.
that is a good question.I will search it.
Try living with the attacks thrown at Ukraine, Princess.
Yes. The simplest way of understanding it that I'm aware of is thinking of Europe as being a middle-aged person living in material comfort but ultimately feeling empty and suffering a variety of symptoms (hint: look at certain cultural behaviours and ask why they exist the way they do) due to severe trauma inflicted from two world wars. It was just struggling to move on so never stopped to really iron things out, get therapy or whatever.
It's petrified by war to the point of becoming militarily weaker than any other country would be in the same situation and relying on US support to enjoy the invisible border wall from things like NATO. It just wants to avoid war at all costs, which seems fine till you no longer have the cultural sense for pretty normal things globally, like patriotism. So, Germany never starts WWIII - great, but now multiple generations lack the instinct of perceiving material threats or having to risk harm to protect something worthwhile.
I don't think this is a uniquely European thing. I don't think it's a racial matter at every level. Maybe what Europe is currently going through is unique in the world right now, but cultural trauma seems to exist in other regions of the world. "China as an individual entity" seems to have some issues after revolution that led to the self-destruction of a lot of their cultural legacy, at least from our general perspective the CCP would of course dispute.
Japan is another one. It had a much stronger post-colonial cultural influence from the US than Europe (note, it wasn't just the US that was active in the Pacific during WWII) but are much more European "who needs them except soldiers and maybe farmers?" in their attitudes towards firearms - so again with the question of cultural trauma around war, uniquely being the only direct victims of atomic war ever while committing literally the worst war crimes ever in history. To be clear, this is the Empire of Japan and Unit 731 as a particular extension of it. The current Japanese democracy has to face the reality of preceding governments, just like the people have to process that trauma, but they haven't and so act out in certain ways.
I realize some of my opinions are involved in all this, but in this case at least, they become my opinions because it's how things actually seemed to be. We need to remember that just acknowledging something in concept or referring to it isn't moralistic. You're not performing any act related to what's being referred to or even saying you approve with something ethically/morally, just observing its presence. If you (as in, anyone) struggles with this idea, without exaggeration, just learn your history. Study various historical events and notice the patterns across time and cultural boundaries. Then you start seeing things you might call evidence of certain parts of the human condition.
Again, I can't deny my bias in this, but going back to your question, it does at least provide the most complete explanation I'm aware of to the current state of Europe, Europeans and Europeanism. Even if you don't buy it, that topic still has relevance, because something exists between Russia and North Africa that will have some knock-on effect on those regions. I'm no expert or authority on any of this. I'm not sure about every detail. It just makes sense in the big picture.
Maybe if you weren't so obsessed with yourself, as Peterson is, you'd realise what a FAKE "genius" he was.
@@WK-47 Thank you, that was quite insightful. I agree with most of your characterisation.
I'm reminded of some posts I've been seeing in the US of native descendents posing with middle fingers to mount Rushmore and saying stolen land, and practically all the Americans in the comments saying things to the tune of "won fair and square".
Seeing that in spite of the wokeness over there, regardless of the content, it speaks of an attitude of self confidence and assertiveness that just seems to be lacking in the UK and western Europe, where we're apparently willing to enslave and expose ourselves to cynical actors, accepting narratives clearly designed against us and following them to the point of corruption.
This is fascinating from a USA person. I love Carl and I find him so interesting. I like to learn about our brothers and sisters in the UK. Keep fighting for free speech and you will always have support from us across the pond!
I worked cleaning as well. You discover your inner strength to handle shyt, get shyt done, and work past the shyt, even literal at times. And you come out much stronger, confident, and unafraid afterwards.
Absolutely. I come from a comfy middle-class background and feel everyone should at some point (ideally as a youth for the valuable life experience) should work min wage for a time. Doesn't matter how grimy or if it's only for a year. It's just so you hopefully have the basic humility after dealing with strangers treating you like garbage because they've had a bad day and can't handle their own problems so share them with society or just being completely ignored by other people.
It means the youngest of my cousins all know what the value of £1 earned and £1 spent is before they leave uni studying whatever. They look the part, but they're not totally sheltered princesses after working a bar, getting shouted at/whatever, not complaining, just getting on with it... then going to do it again the next shift.
Really, every kid who leaves school and doesn't join the armed forces/learn a trade/enter the civil service/something else specific needs to have a job that might involve being asked to keep a public bathroom clean, then not quitting the first time they actually get asked to. Try acting out the original comment and see if it doesn't make you a better person despite being literal shite.
Working menial jobs like that humbles you early on. Now we wonder why we have a generation of fragile narcissists who think blue collar jobs are beneath them 🤷♂️
Of those who are on the sane side in an increasingly growing crazy world, there is a clear split between the "Intelligentsia" podcasters and media and working class podcasters and citizen journalists. This split needs to be brought together if we are to have any chance of defeating the madness. I hope Andrew, barring Carl's interview with Tommy, that you can be the first to interview him and shine a light on what he is saying now and what he was saying over a decade ago, before 'and no disrespect intended' any of you guys were talking about it. I feel there is a background hum of class division between people who are in real terms fighting the same fight. Let's change it!
Although I agree with you, can't see it happening.
Far too many have their eye on their future prospects with mainstream media to risk too much. I'd say the Triggernometry guys are a prime example of that. They use their immigrant status for protection. And when it's useful, they turn on those they consider "worthless career wise" in a heartbeat.
Case in point recently,
Anti Israel Muslim marchers in London are mainly well meaning, mislead and peaceful.
Protesters turning up at the Cenotaph on 11/11 to protect the monument, are "football hooligans".
Konstantin Kissing is very very closed minded with regard to Stephen Yaxley Lennon and R Brand.
I suspect it is due to a deeply ingrained insecurity arising from the shame of being a Russian attending a British public school.
Francis Foster speaks with a Sarf Lundin accent, Kissing describes it as quintessentially "racist".
Says it all to me.
Funnily everyone tends to sit in their own bubbles discuss what was what will be how to change it but few ever really move indirection. But if your serious you need things to bridge that gap, national pride across the west is down the dunny, religions are now dime a dozen not to mention atheists and secular peoples often don't like interacting with the religious because preachy. The genders are divided, family unit and love thy neighbour down the dunny too. If you really want to bridge that gap my recommendation is get the gamers involved. They come from every walk of life, every profession, every class, every religion, every ethnicity, every nation, every political leaning and yeah sure it's video games but they are more united than any Western nation is today, are just as wide spread through the institutions as the woke and are just as versed in weaponizing the internet as the wokeists plus they have no qualms about kicking the wokeist in the teeth like they are currently doing so right now, while everyone else is talking about what to do.
@@lucianjaeger4893they are trying to demonise Gamers now as well. itsagundam has been covering the wokeness in the companies and the same wokeness is spread through Gamers unfortunately but the Gamers have less of an issue as they aren't spread as thick through the actual Gamers yet. Will be interesting to see what happens after this whole SweetBinc and other game consulting firms get called out and ridiculed for their actions!!
What a great conversation, really enjoyed the views given.
I am glad you mentioned that Hitler was a socialist. You have no idea how many arguments I get over that yet it so obvious that he is a socialist that it utterly baffles me that ppl argue incessantly that he is on the right...
Yes. It’s in the name of the party for a reason.
That's correct!! "National SOCIALIST Party"..... Not exactly a far right idea of government.
He joined what was then called the German Workers Party (DAP) in 1919. The party renamed itself the NSDAP in 1920, and Hitler became party chairman in 1921. But despite joining what would be called the “National Socialist” German workers party, Adolf Hitler was not a socialist.
@@jedi88full5 -- Really? Was it not his government that instituted several socialist programs throughout the country during his reign? Perhaps you should research that a bit......
I used to get paid £3 an hour when I was 15-16 cleaning toilets, mopping, etc. I had friends who did dish washing, others had paper rounds. It wasn’t a career. It was to get some cash.
At 26, I was a runner in vfx, cleaning kitchens, toilets occasionally (means to an end… now a senior artist)…
It’s mental that kids refuse those jobs now. (
Those jobs are now taken by migrants. It’s not even an option to have a part time job as a youth and gain work experience
30:42 Andrew here in Canada we're veering left and more people are dying on our streets...burning to death in a tent with mental health issues and addictions trying to stay warm in our winters.
Look up MAIDs yearly rate. It is a government sanctioned massacre.
Lotus Eaters (Carl Benjamin's podcast) recently did a segment on this.
Can gov is evil.
just theory, no action (putting money into solving the many social crisises we face here).
I'm going to admit (because I can hide behind this 'straittalking' pseudonym) that I am a denier when it comes to Tommy Robinson. If someone asked me at work said "what do you think of him" I would probably say something like 'well I'm not a fan'; because I work with a load of liberals. But in truth I admire him. He's common working class and not not the smartest man who is also a scrapper - he gets into fights. But he is honest and stands up for his beliefs and his family and friends and he speaks truth to power. I saw a video of him sitting in a hostile audience in front of a panel of hostiles where _everyone_ was calling him out as a racist and Tommy asks them to name anything he had ever said that was racist and not one in the the crowd or panel could answer him so they just continued to berate him en masse. He has an image problem and I admit I am a coward when it comes to my own image. So what if he is a working class scrapper he's usually right.
i think its super gross that people have to hide their opinions like that, like i disagree with you about a good amount of what you just said, but im happy you got to say it here, i wish you could on the outside
@@Peneloppqueen Well it's not something I am proud about but at least it's the truth. I really enjoy my job' I feel I help society in it. But work politics and outside politics don't mix. When you say you disagree with me about a good amount of what I just said- do you mean you dislike (which I could understand) but I can't see much that I said that could be debated. It was mostly fact (at least as I see it) and feeling.
I was convinced by the propaganda about him when I was a young default Lefty, but my perspective on a lot of things changed and I was shocked by just how much I'd been lied to about him in particular. I do want to actually correct you on something though:
Tommy (Steve) in his own words "breezed through" his education but was "a bit of a class clown" (A in maths, five Bs, five Cs, without actually doing any proper studying), but he had a temperament that meant he didn't concentrate on his schoolwork as much as he could have done, otherwise he'd have been a straight A student. When he left school, he did an apprenticeship in aircraft engineering: 650+ candidates applied, they took 5 on and Steve was one of them, so.... Not an unintelligent man; just a product of a rough upbringing, doing things the way he knew how, and with nothing but hostility from the people in authority who he naively expected take over from him and do the right things.
I would very much recommend watching this interview with him on Carl's Lotus Eaters site, it is very good for getting to know more about who the guy actually is:
www.lotuseaters.com/common-sense-crusade-or-07-03-2024
An unfairly demonised Englishman - Most men would be proud to fight alongside him in War, with the knowledge that he would always have your back - a Coward he is not.........
you have to factor in growing up in luton as well , its not like living in other parts of the country , i went there for 2 years for a job, and have never been spat at so much , i came away hating them with a passion and will never have any more interactions with them, @@WraithOfMan
This is the best video on the subject that I've seen so far. I would have liked to hear more potential strategies to persuade people to get back to traditionalism, a path to get there, and what it would look like when/if we can say we've arrived (end goal). I am a U.S. citizen (American as some call us) by the way
I’ve followed Carl for years and am so happy Lotuseaters is going so well.
How has this man never heard of a rich tea biscuit?
I haven't either .. in my house it's a poor tea biscuit or nothing
Imagine that. Never heard of a rich tea biscuit. It’s what we would go to once the digestives ran out lol.
@@steveblundell7766 😂
@@pommiebears- Yes, nasty, dry sawdust thingies. 😂
Looking forward to this. I sometimes watch Carl’s podcast (lotus eaters) and it’s thought provoking for sure.
@Letsthinkaboutit-mb7nn I agree, I stopped watching the lotus eaters and blocked it from recomendations because its almost entirely reactionary clickbait takes. Some of the hosts were ok, but Carl was not really one of the better ones. I still have respect for the guy for sticking to his principles and standing up but they descend into dumb turf wars too often for me.
@Letsthinkaboutit-mb7nn Saying the daily mail has left wing articles is not nonsense, it is just an opinion you disagree with
@Letsthinkaboutit-mb7nn it is a YOU you is unloading BS. Perhaps Carl gets the attention you can't get 🤔
@Letsthinkaboutit-mb7nn What does "to the right of Atilla the Hun" even mean, he lived over 1,000 years before the term right wing was even invented
Can't stand the opinionated naive brats Carl's using to pay his mortgage with.
"They had handed out that it is evil to be a Patriot, White, American, Religious and to be able to hold down a job...That there had ended any to all discussions, Period!"
-- Tripwire
Diversity means encouraging diverse sexual tastes, inclusion means accepting all sexual tastes, and equality means thinking the same way about sexual tastes. It’s a materialist and hedonist philosophy.
Diversity means racism.
Inclusion means exclusion.
Equity means discrimination.
We dont need to accept "all" s3xual tastes, like p3d0philia or other extreme things, we dont need to "encourage" s3xual tastes, just aknowledge them is enough ...
Indeed it is.
I can care less about other people's sex lives outside of my own when it does not involve things like being graped, children, dead bodies, animals, or related relatives.
Also when I think about equality, I think about equal opportunity and equal protection under the law ( like what the United States have with the 14th Amendment and the Civil Rights Act ). By the way when it comes to this whole diversity thing ( which usually involves immigration ), it usually depends on the culture because that culture would determine if they can assimilate to that society or not.
@@25taylorkw The biggest leap that most stand-offish, tolerance types have yet to make is to realise that any behaviour that is permitted to be openly practised and celebrated by adults will eventually be pushed on children under the guise of 'education', 'preparing them for life' or general whynotism. That's why one of the best approaches to evaluating any political debate about legalising something is to ask yourself whether you would like to one day see your own children (hypothetical children if need be) exposed to or inducted into it.
Cinematography on this podcast has gone up in LEVELS. Good job Andrew man
I’m a 47yr old straight white guy from the UK, lived here my whole life, have both parents, worked my whole life, married, easy enough job, relatively OK money, only been on the dole once for a few weeks back in the 90s. I worked crappy menial jobs in hotels and McDonald’s for £1.30 an hour when I was a teenager in College. I WILL NOT be forced into feeling ANY guilt for being white, straight, or male. ESPECIALLY in a country that is 90% white, 97.5% straight, 99% binary. I’m not exactly proud of being any of this, but I refuse to start feeling any guilt, or think I owe any sort of reparations to anyone, or think that I’m somehow privileged to be any of these things. I never used to notice anything political, but the fact I’m now somehow a bad person in the eyes of the Left has made me politically minded, and I really dislike it. It’s not my fault when or where I was born. If someone else was born Black and in poverty, and I wasn’t, thats nothing to do with fairness or equality - it’s just reality.
The problem with unchecked Liberalism, is that as it progresses, it moves down the line from taking authority from the King, to undermining authority in any given hierarchy. It starts to fly apart when it gets to tearing down competence hierarchies. The end-boss of Liberalism is Your Dad.
Liberalism replaces Truth with Rights.
Born with a season ticket to Spurs is an awful handicap for any child to live with.
That’s a good way to curse your child for life 😂
I'm glad I wasn't the only one who noticed. YNWA
That is purely retarded. I grew up rather poor. But my extended family were millionaires. My cousins grew up without worry. But they are geniunely kind and good people. Isnt it convenient that poor people think it's a blessing and have false pretenses of the wealthy because of TV lmao. It's like how many hyper wealthy people do you know and how many act moronic? You use the same way of thinking that leftists use
I don't want to buy his boomer art, but Carl has become one of my favorite philosophers of the 21st century.
Yeah the art is somewhat pedestrian & substandard
Said this to my partner not too long ago. With enough exposure, I could see Carl being remembered as one of the greats.
the people that say it's unfair that they have less than someone who had wealth passed down from parents who worked hard for it - are the same people who don't want to give up their selfish comforts and 'fun lifestyle' to bear & raise children of their own.
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What’s unfair is cleaning up after a slob(s) who have been given free rent in the building I’m forced to clean up, among a litany of other duties, while being compensated equally, “free” rent.
Welcome to managing apartment buildings in Los Angeles.
Since we all know equity is so important, why aren't we applying this in journalism? Equity is especially important with free speech & "our democracy"- isn't this the most important area for equity & diversity?
Great conversation and always a pleasure to listen to Carl in full flow.
"It's unfair" is a category error.
People can be unfair.
If you think reality is unfair, go complain to reality, but don't think that your objection to reality entitles you to abuse other people.
One part which really stood out to me was the part of a man being discriminated against whilst trying to join the police force. It stood out because the same thing happened to my mum. She wanted to be a Police officer in what would have been the early to mid 80s I guess. She was told that she was too short and that she had glasses. These two factors stopped her even getting through the first stages. It was a clear no. Short and glasses, that's not allowed. Shortly after she met an Asian woman who was shorter than her, also needed glasses, and the Asian woman was just employed as a police officer. So it turns out it had nothing to do with eyesight and height. If my mum was not educated enough, they would have said that. If she was overweight/ not fit enough, they would have said that. If she was the wrong age, they would have said that. Why would they not tell you when it's something as benign as that. If they had to lie, it must have been based on something that could cause them embarrassment. And the obvious difference between this woman and my mum, which would cause embarrassment to the police, especially in the 80s before people started getting so butt hurt about everything, is that my mum was white and the other lady was not. My mum never had any ill well towards the woman. Nor did she ever use the experience to feel ill will towards any other race or minority. She always just felt frustration towards the police force. Because they clearly made exceptions to their normal rules to encourage DEI hiring before it was really a thing. And she always just felt frustrated that she had been clearly discriminated against. This is not equality. And in todays climate, compared to the 80s, we are going to see this racist bullshit again and again and again. It's wrong. And people know it's wrong. But it keeps happening.
Thank you for all the hard work over the years Carl.
This was a facinating interview. I don't know how I feel about immigration. I'm British but I grew up overseas most of my life and I moved back here. I met my husband overseas and he's moving here. We have been apart for 2 years with being able to see each other every 6 months. The spousal visa was really challenging, expensive especially when my husband earns in a much weaker currency. As equally I am appalled by the immigration happening into the UK, the hotel stays and free everything including gym memberships. There doesn't seem a normal balance. I am grateful my husband will be here soon.
There is a major difference in LEGAL IMMIGRATION and people illegally breaking into a country.
@@dturner8567 very true. But even with legal immigration the numbers have been too high.
I have been listening to Carl since 🤔 around 2016/17. He has that rare talent for common sense.
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@@rgghjs9270 For decades now I've been telling people that "Common sense isn't common and, to those who don't have it, it doesn't always make sense." I truly believe that "Common Sense" is an alternative word for wisdom. And, sadly, wisdom takes time. We aren't born with it, and the young don't want to hear it because it tells them that they are wrong.
@@schroecat1 One of my school teachers, back in the 60s, told me that common sense wasn't common when I observed that someone around me had no common sense. I was in my early teens at the time and I have never forgotten it. Just for the record her name was Mary Barratt. She has been dead for decades now but her wisdom lives on, as do my memories of a wonderful teacher.
Then you clearly haven't been watching Sargon from 2016.
@@rgghjs9270Common sense seems increasingly rare in today's world.
Sargon is in no way shape or form far right. He's more center right than anything.
“Characterise the world through its own lens”: What does that mean?
You say you are priviliged because you are white. I suspect you come from a wealthy family, and that is the real reason you are privileged. However, speaking as someone from a modest background, so what. If your parents wish to help you, that is quite legal and nothing to be ashamed of. But you, and people in your position, shouldn’t promote black and brown people to make up for your privilege as that discriminates against white people from poor and modest backgrounds. The solution is to choose people on merit, and improve state education.
I agree! But I have to offer the other side sometimes.
@@andrewgoldheretics Excellent answer. 🙂
The only way to improve state education is to rid ourselves of private schools. The wealthy will never invest in them otherwise.
But the question would be: at what cost?
@@stephenparry6811 That is indeed a good question. A friend suggested banning private education, then posh people would make sure state education was good. Not sure I agree. A problem we have is huge class sizes, overworked teachers and children who aren’t taught to express themselves and debate. Katherine Birbelsingh has one answer.
Liberalism is: “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.” Clive Staple Lewis
The last job I had, held a meeting on such topics which informed us that we could no longer use the term “brainstorm”, instead we had to use, “blue sky thinking” because it may be hurtful to people with mental issues, I zoned out pretty quickly.
😂 I would have laughed in their faces, which wouldn't surprise anyone who knows me.
The biggest failure in this idea that, unequal outcomes must mean fairness, is that it eliminates the freedom to fail; and subsequently then to take risks. A lot of people conveniently overlook the fact that many people who are well off, have taken massive risk, and sometimes even were at one point exceedingly poor. It is the freedom to fail; to be subjected to and exposed to extreme failure, that allows people to actually succeed. Because you cannot have one without the other. So long as scarcity exists, there will always be people less off than others.
And that's the second failure; evaluations of fairness based purely on the relative outcomes of two individuals is inherently itself unfair and pointless. It ignores that someone can be exceedingly lucky, even unfairly favored in a variety of ways, but still have a shit life. A great example of such a thing is the rich kid elite that winds up broke and homeless after squandering his family's wealth and constantly abusing his elite connections only to finally be abandoned by his friends and family.
99k subscribers and you're landing Carl, Doyley, FF, Posie, Lineham... The list goes on AND you're a sort of fanboi/poor mans
Louis Theroux by your own admission. This channel is the channel to watch in 2024. Great convo, keep em coming!
I dno about poor man’s haha! Thank you - I have a second channel with 300k subs but it became tabloid… this one is just 3 months old.
In any case, you're doing a great job with Heretics. We all thank you. @@andrewgoldheretics
The problem is not people earning a higher amount of wealth than others. The problem is that, once you have earned a certain level of wealth, it becomes like a form of gravity that attracts additional wealth which you did NOT work for. Like some billionaire once said, “Making your first million dollars is hard; making your hundredth million dollars is inevitable.” I guess one reason for this is the exponential amount of additional opportunities which present themselves to you, once you have a certain level of capital to invest.
I grew up blue collar. I worked two jobs well into my 20's. I put myself through college by taking out $80,000 in college loans and paying them off myself. I do very well with my tech degree. I grew up with a friend that was born into a very rich family. Went to some very expensive schools and then expensive, top universities. His parents paid for everything. Bought him a brand new car in high school and another one when he got out of college. His parents didn't leave the kids anything due to bad luck. Here we are decades later and he is now living the life my parents are and I am almost living a very good life.
It isn't where you start. It is what your family teaches you and your own hard work and persistence. He had EVERYTHING going for him but lacked the family and ability to maintain or build it.
The old saying is still true. It is NOT where you start but where you finish.
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Which isn't true.
In many instances, demonstrably, most people do not "socially climb" in terms of wealth and opportunities.
Where you start is important, when your getting knocked down every time you get back on your feet. So many traps to fall into.
Not every rich people's kid turn out a success, but you are underplaying how much the wealth of your parents can affect your future success. Your friend did not have the mindset to make the best of what's given to him, but what if he did? He would have surpassed you in almost every aspect. Hard work only will never beat hard work and capital. Notice how the vast majority if not all current billionaires were born with a silver spoon in their mouth.
Well said. I really believe that the most important virtue is gratitude and being envious will be your downfall. You can literally do anything almost anything in life. The World isn't against you and everyone is just trying to get by; rich or poor. Just because you got handed a "bad hand" in life there is always someone who has it worse and you should be happy for what you have and what you can do every single day.
Carl has definitely hit the nail with that fairness argument. The thing is the left act as if the state are their parents. If a parent gave one child something which they didn't give to the other then it could be an unfairness, but they act as if the state is the parent so if they don't have something someone else has it must be an unfairness in their mind.
It's madness. It shows why I've been saying for decades that we need to be combating this at the level of philosophy. We are fighting the ideologies that led to the French revolution et al but have infected our cultural understanding.
You have identified the key. Statists see the government as their fuhrer.
Leftist Americans are even more absurd, because the founding fathers specifically rejected that relationship of state to citizen.
The left have left me politically homeless with my head in a spin. I find their arguments hypocritical on so many levels, yet I stand for a lot of it too. I am a disabled female, who strongly believes in treating everyone with respect, and free speech, and bodily autonomy, and I'm unvaccinated. I still can't share that fact with my left leaning friends and former colleagues, because most would still look down on me. The pandemic highlighted this huge and crazy irony to me. They fight for bodily autonomy, abortion rights (I'm very pro choice on that front too), yet they bullied and piled on anyone who didn't want the jab. They were happy to discriminate then. And suddenly I was aligned with people who were anti abortion but fighting for our bodily rights with the jab! Make it make sense!!
I also suffer from an illness that has been medically and financially neglected, disbelieve and mocked yet is severely disabling. I find it insane that I suffer daily from an illness that might have been cured by now if it had had the right help and funding/attention. But I feel absolutely marginalised.
I hate that the government benefits system is based on large scale fraud and lies, yet they push the narrative that it's the ones claiming who are the biggest fraudsters. Most people who have never applied for disability benefits have no idea of the extent to which the system is completely underhand and corrupt. They set dates on letters that you don't receive for 3 weeks, so that you are left with a week's deadline to complete their forms when you should have had a month. But they do it repeatedly. Their assessment reports are full of low, and feel like they've been written about a different person. They don't apply the law correctly on who or what should qualify. Assessors write total bullshit about you and they deliberately try to break the will of applicants so that they don't pursue the funding that they are legally entitled to. It's a cruel system and so many of my friends give up because they are too ill to fight it.
I have seen public services decimated and lost jobs I loved as the money got tighter for picnic funding. For all of this, I hate the tories. I want to vote for a party that genuinely recognises my illness, and that does provide financial support cos I paid my taxes for years. I think people who are struggling deserve that much, and to not be scrutinised as if we are all liars and benefits cheats. I hate that they are threatening to scrutinise the bank accounts of anyone on benefits when there's no way the MPs would reveal their own. Have we forgotten the expenses scandal? I haven't given up on socialism, cos so much of this is wrong to me.
But I don't belong there anymore. And i cannot spend my life celebrating equality when I don't have it and no one gives a crap cos unless you are flavour of the month, you don't matter.
I can't even make my comment make sense, because none of the world makes sense to me anymore! And this talk has left me with more questions than answers.
As far as bodily autonomy and abortion, it makes perfect sense. Anti-abortionist is concerned with the bodily autonomy of the life that can't speak for themselves, so murdering that life is violating theirs.
I know what it's like to be disbelieved about your disability. The amount of abuse and scolding from my ex "friends" who claimed I was just exaggerating my disability as an excuse to be lazy, take pain killers and supposedly not be physically capable because I was just giving up the instant I hurt a little, when in fact I was drenched in sweat just trying to stay on my feet and act normal around them.
I can sympathize with quite a lot of this as someone who's been on disability (in Canada) for 16 years, but I'm astonished at the British system you describe; at first I assumed you were talking about the United States. So far in 16 years, I haven't had one audit or form to fill out since I initially got on, even though they said they may check in once in a while.
But the incompetence of the medical system I do know. I spent my whole life from age 16-34 getting worse and worse, in unbearable pain as every ligament, disk and vertebrae in my spine collapsed. Finally, at age 34, I found out what was causing it: spinal osteoporosis due to severe vitamin D malabsorption. All those years, and all that accumulated damage could have been prevented with a simple check of my vitamin D levels, which they never mentioned weren't included in general nutrient blood panels.
I'm sorry for all you're going through, but don't give up hope, I spent many years certain that suicide would be my inevitable end; at least now I'm not degenerating further and I've lived for strength training for 3 years which has improved a lot. I never would have guessed things could actually improve, but it can sure take a while.
Btw, good for you for not getting vaccinated, I really regret my triple shots now that I'm recovering from my 2nd bout of pericarditis thanks to that vaccine. It's a terrifying and very painful thing to go through with a long recovery.
"My government run healthcare system is corrupt and ridiculous. I still haven't given up on socialism tho. I want buying food and clothes to be equally corrupt and ridiculous."
Just food for thought. It's not as contradictory as you thought, that conservatives are pro-bodily-autonomy when it comes to the vaccine, but seemingly anti-bodily-autonomy when it comes to abortion. From the conservative perspective, the reason we are anti-abortion is specifically *because* of our belief in bodily autonomy. The difference is, we believe that you should have bodily autonomy over your own body, whereas the pro-abortion side believes you should have bodily autonomy over someone else's body.
The fundamental disagreement is this. The baby's body, while it is inside of the mother, is not the mother's body. The baby has to be able to have bodily autonomy. And killing someone is absolutely taking away their bodily autonomy from them. Pro-abortion people often refer to abortion as healthcare. But is the baby's health being cared for? Bodily autonomy specifically means someone else can't tell you what to do with your body. And killing the baby is definitely doing something with it's body without it's consent. Just as you have a right to not be forced to take a vaccine, you also have a right to not be killed. Why would a human baby not share that same right?
@@douglasmurdoch7247 I'm pro choice up to 5 months, but yes I actually agree with this and it was really well worded.
I've been listening to a ton of abortion debates and the pro-choice side that I'm on (only up to 5 months) tends to make the worst, most irrational arguments. I'm watching these debates because I'm always questioning, but it's silly to say pro-life means being against bodily autonomy, as if only one of the two bodies factors in.
I'm just pro-choice because I have my own argument that I've yet to hear an argument against.
around that whole conversation of "fairness", that idea is why i had such a hard time with Christianity for so long. I couldn't see how it was "good"/fair for humanity to have free will if the cost was most would go to hell. I came to the realization i was looking at things through my definition of good, or how this conversation put it "making everyone equal sounds nice". It wasn't until i let go of my self imposed moral authority over what the definition of good was, that i saw that, yeah, free will is absolutely worth it. It isnt nice, but it is superior to everything else. Then i was on to another question, that was inevitably next in line. Here in this conversation Carl is spot on. Western Society has come to see equality as the highest moral, but we conflate too many things into equality that it makes it okay to be jealous or envious b/c someone was born into a wealthy family. Did they earn that, no. but it opens a truly f''d door to put parents making a better life for their kids in the "unfair" box. The only way to make everything equal is to make it so everyone has nothing. B/c you can only lift the mediocre so high, but you can always tear the great down farther. Even in that case tho, the enforcers will inevitably have more. There is no communist Utopia. There can be no Utopias where equality is the goal.
Equality of outcome, equity, is utterly dystopian
We are going to Hell because we choose to. We consciously choose to be apart from Light. Now, hidden, we will not be ‘judged’ by our bad deeds.
@@jonah9861 "the only sin that hasn't been paid for is the rejection of Christ"
Yup. This is why I don’t understand why people have a problem with modern day slavery. Those kids just need to accept their lot, or they can always run away, or off themselves. But this is the natural way of things. Some become lions, some become gazelles. All we (those of us who “have”) can do is hope there really is no such thing as cosmic karma waiting to balance the scales after death. While those who “have not” can hope that there is.
It's not in the Bible that you will go to hell.
To elaborate, Dankula was sick of his wife going on about how cute their pug was, so he taught it the forbidden salute before asking his wife if she thought he was so cute now. It was supposed to be funny because he superimposed evil onto cute to mock the wife. Then he got labelled for that and prosecuted. I've heard many top comedians say much worse. It's ridiculous.
Congrats on hitting 100k subs!🎉
You’re bringing out consistently great content and bravely challenging the narrative and for that I thank you.