HifiMan HE400seXY 3D Printed Audiophile Headphones Finale
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- Опубликовано: 4 дек 2024
- It is one of those projects that go way out of hand but the results were worth it. They now look great and sound even better.
The 3D files can be downloaded from here
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You will also need 10 M2.5 x 25 bolts to hold it all together
Obviously, modifying anything anything is not without it's risks and if you are not skilled in such things then I can't advise trying it. But.. If you are brave and are willing to possibly break a £150 pair of headphones then it is well worth the time an effort for the end result.
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You can get a nicer headband from this seller
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M2.5 x 25 hex bolts
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100mm Angled pads
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If you break the socket - this one should fit
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This is an absolute hidden gem of a channel! Keep it up your content is incredible.
Thanks - Hopefully I will have some similar projects I can Video later in the year
Thanks for that headband fix.
Really liked the sound of these immediately but that middle spot pressure on the head made me only take them out from time to time. Now that problem is finally gone for me.
Glad to help!
Great stuff, and definitely deserving the "XY" addition!
Thank you for all the work you did with this, and for the whole series!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Hey Jason, Damn. I just built the he400seXY about an hour ago( you kinda made the build process look kinda easy lol).
The difference so apparent and this is coming from the super grills (NGL i was disappointed with its improvements when i made it). I wasn't really expecting this large of a difference with this mod. Keep up the good work!
Congratulations... It is not an easy build.
This channel deserves to become way more popular specially when there's such a high demand for someone who would review tech without being a "tech reviewer".
Thanks. I hope it gains more of a following as well ;)
This is such an underrated channel.
I just made my He-R9seXY as well.
I am looking forward to see what you made! In the meanwhile I stumbled upon a great solution to make our headset experience more life like! Open baffle headset with a dual driver for more power handling and no brakeup within the passband. In my channel I only show the idea, but I leave it up to you to grasp the benefits of such a design. This sounds so much better than everything I've heard so far, the drivers handles a ton of power. Eq with zero reflections and absurd power handling is just insane. Should't be to hard to replicate my build. The AMT 8 measures really well and doesnt need a highpass in headphones. I found a dynamic driver with a natural roll off wich crosses over perfectly with the AMT-8. The tweeeter is only lowered by an 12ohms resistor. No phase change since the power handling of the drivers are good enough to handle the fullrange ,so no need for a crossover. The music experience is just wild and obviously this design gobles a ton of power.
Really interesting design - it reminds me a bit of the Sony MDR-F1. Not a lot has changed on mine since the last video just a few tweaks - most of the changes were to make it easier to print and build
Haven't seen those before but design principles are the same. Looks like they tried to change the sound by physical means, while I made mine to be used with eq from the start. The disadvantage with that headset is they have a lot of reflection points for the sound reflecting back from the ear. Also because of the open baffle bass loss that driver has make that up that with large excursions while playing the treble too. That's why I felt 2 drivers were needed. When I got rid of the usual reflection points on casing , the sound improved in most aspects. Its the effect of listening to a narrow dispersion speaker, less room and more direct sound I guess. I am looking forward to see the end result and listening impressions of your complete build!
thanks for making this open source and all the work and effort you have put into this work of art. I have a pair of HE-X40 on the way from drop.
looks like it should be compatibe only diffrnece i can see from the photos is a diffrent screw type for the headband connector.
hopfully i can find a good commision printer around me.
From the look of them, they have the older, non-stealth magnets in. This kit should fit but it has not been tested with those drivers yet.... We do have a new easier and safer mod for these coming soon. It is not quite as good as these but is much easier to fit.
instagram.com/p/CeVfbaTgxjZ/?hl=en
I simply wrapped the headband cushion with camouflaged 4mm O.D. paracord. Looks cool...feels good...robust...customized.
That's a good idea. In the office we buy paracord by the kilometre so I have no excuse not to give it a go
Well done its looking good and the amp too you are a star if you ask me 😎
Thanks ;)
Just build my own pair last Week, also reused the metalring with the rubber from inside the He400se to hold the grills on the outside, looking super clean and soundstage is superb especially for gaming :) I keept the dust protection on the grills becuz my pads came with their own you think they should be removed for better airflow?
Leaving the dust protection should be fine and glad to hear your build went well
Let me know if/when you create a cnc file version for wood cups!
Yes, I may give that a go after christmas
This is great, Jason. Fantastic result! If I wanted to rewire these, what wire would you suggest, connecting to the 3.5mm jacks?
If you are talking about the wires from the socket to the driver.... it is a very short length so it should not make a huge difference but anything of a decent quality that is quite flexible. We re-wire most headphones with copper Litz wire around 20AWG but that is mainly because we have a lot of it in stock
The frequency diagram does look much better, than without the stupid peak, from the original design into the highs section.
I am really happy with the sound of them but we are still doing a few more tweaks to the design
@@CustomCans Sounds way interesting. I'm wondering, without this way cool fun project of yours - to mod the HE-400se, isn't it cheaper to just buy a used Sundara? ;) But anyway, the grills look phantastic. I'd really like to mod my 400se. But i don't have access to a 3D Printer, neither want to risk a pair of 150 bucks cans...hm.
@@marcp.1752 Yes - definitely ;) I broke two pairs of HE400se and I normally charge £30 per hour to design stuff, I probably spent 40 hours designing, testing and re-designing these so if you factor in my time, and the parts, this pair of headphones probably cost me £1500 - I may start work on some sundara mods soon though ;)
I love OpAmp rolling. :) Did this a lot with my Xonar Essence STX II. Which kind of headphone amp you're using atm`? I've swapped my Essence for the FiiO K5 Pro, because i like the physical volume dial, among other features.
I have a beyerdynamic A20 and SMSL SP200 which I use most of the time
@@CustomCans I've forgotten to mention, i have a Lehmann Headphone Amp, but using the FiiO, for it's PC connection, to stream my FLAC files easily. Head great things about the SMSL Asian brand. The A20 is from our country here, germany ;) I'm mostly using my HD 650 Sennheiser, or a Momentum Over Ear series. And it doesn't sound "dark" or dull after all, but nice. Speaken of SQ, Beyerdynamic Headphones easily causes ear fatique, i can't stand the artificial highs, and also sharp s-sounds, for my ears.
@@CustomCans The HD 650 sounds great onto the Essence STX(II) with OpAmp mod, or Lehmann Linear. SMSL does great electronics, too.
@@marcp.1752 Yes the HD650 is a great pair of headphones and scale really well with different amps. I always preferred the HD600 but it is all down to personal taste
@@CustomCans It's a matter of personal preference & taste. I heard both for hours, before choosing the HD 650. It simply plays everything fine, i throw at it. No matter, if it's rock, metal, or even electro, jazz or opera.
Would love to see what you could do to the HE6se - a lot of things/bits/experience could probably be re-used…
Btw, the HE-400se is being sold since ~6-8 months for around 129 EUR.
This is very, very nice.
Thanks ;)
@@CustomCans You're welcome. And I see you're so, so generous on letting people have the STL files for this where other folks would just start charging money for it.
I think I might hit you guys up for an order for something - but will surely spread the word on your talents AND you kindness and generosity.
A great THANK YOU for that buddy!
Interestingly enough, I have that headband you linked (nice metal remix of the Sundara headband) and a 3D printer too, I think I may try your design with my he400is or the He4XXs with my printer.
Should be named "HifiMan HE400seXYZ" since 3d-printed
Lol ... Yes ;)
Great video series! Have you considered making a closed back version of the Hifiman HE400se headphones?
Maybe... I have a lot of other projects to finish off before I could do that but maybe in the summer
@@CustomCans maybe I'll play with the stl files. What is the purpose of the bumps in the ear cup for? I'm not sure if you explained that but if you did sorry I missed it.
I´m on for the balance amp
Yes, we will be pretty busy until Feb but I should get the design finalised then and get them into production... Very exciting times
This project looks really good! Was just wondering with this video and the construction and initial testing video, the driver was mounted backwards (wire side of the driver is facing away with the original housing) does this have an affect on staging and imaging?
The drivers should work the same either way round, they seem symmetrical front to back
Anything new about this 400se Project, Jason? How do you build the driver grill? Thanks in advance. :)
How good is the final SQ from this modded HE-400seXY? It looks such much fun, but unfortunately, i do own the 400se, but no 3D Printer.
We are not selling pre-printed parts at the moment I am looking into possibly selling a kit in the future but I have a few other projects to finish off first and
That would be awesome!
@@CustomCans I see. And about the HE400se mod, you clearly stated it's not the last mod. I've seen other, very cute mods of the HE400se onto the web, with metal round grill, similar to my Sennheiser HD650 ;) Keep it going. Thanks for the info!
Really nice work, already bought a pair a few weeks ago. As this projekt is open source would it be possible to get the fusion360 files ?(I think you used Fusion) I'd like to make a version with an one-sided mini-XLR connector to use them with my custom cabels for my modified beyerdynamics cans.
It was made in Solidworks but I will upload some STEP files tomorrow which should work in 360
@@CustomCans Would it be possible to get the Solidworks files?
@@CustomCans Thank you, I did a testprint of the connector that worked and I just stardet printing the first housing. I would happily share the files with you or others, but your license in thingiverse says "no derivatives", is that intentional? I could also give you the files to add them to your Thing.
The tree is a bit of a mess at the moment and not everything is dimensioned properly but I will neaten them up and release them after Christmas
No sorry - I have changed that now. There does seem to be a problem with the ting though as it does not show up in search and some people are getting 404 when downloading so I will be uploading again ... I will try to set it up better with proper file names and stuff ;)
You are the best
I am good enough to fool people into thinking I am ;)
What do we need, M2.5 x 25 or M2.5 x 30? The description mentions both. Thanks!
Also would love to know your print settings. I can probably figure out layer height, perimeters, infill % and pattern, etc. but a starting point helps!
Ah sorry - M2.5 x 25 . Layer height as small as you can and infill 100% you want it as ridged as possible and the extra weight helps
What do the "lumps" around the edge do?
If I am honest.. I am not sure ;) Initially horn type opening was accentuating some frequencies and the bumps were added to break that up which worked but then during listening tests we noticed they sounded more open with the bumps so we tried adding more and putting them in different places noting whether we were making it better or worse. So... they reduce a peak we had in the frequency plot and give them a little more sound stage - just not 100% sure why that is
What 3D printer did you use and which filament to print these? Thanks in advance, Jason.
It was a CR10 @0.16mm later height and some generic PLA
What is the Status about your Amp?
what is the driver diameter?
Damn, they have 6k+ headphones, i should get in to that business lol.
The Hifiman Shangri-La Electrostatic headphone System is £46,000 ... some people have way too much money ;)
When does the modded Sundara come?
I have ordered a pair so may look at modding them at some point or... they may turn out to be fine as they are ;)
Could this be done to the HE-X4?
No sorry, It is designed to work with the stealth magnet version of the driver
@@CustomCans Oh that's a shame. You did an amazing job with this project!
Hey i was wondering if covering the perforated bit on the pads with some kind of tape would reduce the treble peak a bit? Im too cheap to get a new pads
Worth a try - electrical tape is good for that kind of thing
Maybe hifiman sundara next.. 😁
Yes - I should get my hands on some Sundaras soon
Hi, does this mod work with the HE400i? I've done goofed and poked a hole into the left side of my HE400SE :'> I've found a pretty good deal on a pair of HE400i near me so I was wondering if the mod would work with that.
Edit:
To clarify, I had the 400SE up and running for about a week, but i installed the driver packs abit slanted relative to the grill lines so I wanted to take them out and reseat them straight... Ended up doing what the video said not to do and poking a hole into the left driver by accident :c
It is weird you should say that. We had a random pair of HE400se turn up with the older drivers in and I checked some measurements. The magnets are slightly wider so I am not 100% sure how well it will work - it should work fine but has not been optimised for them. If you are in the UK we can probably sell you a pair of HE400se cheap if you don't mind open box stock
Which pad size is the correct one? In the description it says 90mm, but in the video you measure and mention 100mm several times?
Sorry - yes you are right 100mm
proper bo i tell thee
Selecta!
i bought my 400se v2 for 109 usd on sale
that is a great deal
And so how much?
Sorry - I am not sure what you mean - how much of what? ;)
If you mean money then it depends on whether you have your own 3D printer and how cheap you pick the headphones up for. If you print the parts your self then probably around £160 including uprated pads and the original headphones.
If you mean "how much time", then excluding printing time, I would probably set aside a couple of hours to build them.
If you mean "how much material" .... I can't remember but less than 100g so material cost for the 3D print is negligible.
If you mean "how much better are the headphones after modding" Then.... noticeably better. It is not night and day but there are definitely enough improvements to make it worth wile if you enjoy DIY
If you mean "how much chance is there if me killing a perfectly good pair of headphones by trying this" I would say around 10% . If you are not skilled in pulling thigs appart it is probably not the best project to start off with but if you have a bit of skill you should be OK
@@CustomCans i mean how much time to wait untill you put few kits in your page on ebay, because I have no 3D printer and even have no will to start
@@evgenyfavorsky422 Aah... We are pretty booked up with big secret projects for other companies at the moment so probably won't be able to get them up for sale until late Feb but.. We are in the process of becoming a HiFiMan dealer so we should have the kits and pre made headphones by march
@@CustomCans I think I may buy one of these when you have them up for sale