Angus! Glad to hear we earned a "spot on the shelf"! Will get STL orientation sorted into the next file update, and get to work on a location for a mic! *Editing comment to say that STL orientations and Left/Right are fixed in v1.5 files!*
Would love to see a mic upgrade as my kid is always breaking his set of gaming headphones. O'l dad could just whip up the parts on the printer, repair, childhood bliss and hero status restored.
The concept of items being sold in kit form and for easy repair is fantastic, I hope other manufacturers take the same step forward to making their goods more environmentally friendly, if you had a solar powered printer with recycled filament it would close to 100% win 👍😊😻🏴🦤🦖
they wont because it dont make them money. Imagine if car companies made their cars they dont rust. Then they dont sell you repair service and spare parts. It's a cool idea long term for the planet and all but the rich pockets wont do it.
@@TommiHonkonen That's certainly a issue, but if people wanted durable stuff, they would need to pay for it. A car that doesn't rust would cost a lot more than one that does in just material cost. They don't name stuff like they used to, but that stuff is also significantly cheaper than it used to be.
You can reduce the bass by adding melamine foam in the enclosure behind the driver, or by taping a couple holes evenly along the back of the Peerless drivers! Opening the enclosure to the outside will actually increase the bass. Taping too many driver ports could slightly reduce dynamics response though, but if you want to make an enclosure designed around this it's fine ;) Those specific 40mm drivers are actually designed for open backs. I haven't tried the 50mm but their response chart looks far middy/bassier, so go with your own discretion but those are supposedly designed for closed backs. I will agree that the Peerless' bass fidelity is insane, unlike anything I've heard in a phone below $250. I'm actually shocked that I couldn't find this product in my searches for 3D printed headphones, so I designed my own hifi closed backs for sale and their progress are coming along nicely (over 1000 hours of work on these frickin things). I'll post a brief design overview on my channel soon-ish (edit: see link in replies), and I welcome all criticism for when they finally go up for grabs. Great review Angus, it's cool to see a headphone review focused on the manufacturing aspects. This was definitely a surprise in my feed.
@@MakersMuse I'd love to see a Maker's Muse mod of this haha. Here's a brief bit of info about my current progress, I'll definitely update you when it's ready! ruclips.net/video/FE6wSyxjJLM/видео.html
Time for a Collab with @DankPods ? I know lockdown is kinda holding that stuff back down there but he's an Aussie too and if you haven't seen his channel I'd highly recommend it for not only iPod content but a good laugh as well 😂
Those are slick. I agree with the undersize earcups - I've had headphones I really enjoyed that I just couldn't wear anymore because of how uncomfortable they are. The head(amame) earcups look super comfortable.
These solves this problem I know everyone around me have, headphones break and is not easy to repair, so most end up purchase something cheap and somewhat okay, thanks Angus for showing this, it´s EXACTLY what I have been looking for a long time! So now, a bluetooth version and one with a mic, that would make this my go to headphones, I will save up to by and try this out, without a doubt, I always seem to brake mine due to me tripping on cables and stuff, hence I use wireless "okayish" ones I agree with Franz Rupert as well, to send to DankPods and also to Hexibase or make a collab with them on these and sling ideas back and forth!
Think it would be even cooler if they could provide files as placeholders for the audio components so you could try buying the pieces and then designing your own actual 3D printed housings
But the housing affects the sound. And I doubt anyone could design a better sounding housing than they did. Just the R&D you would have to put into it would be insane.
@@MiGujack3 the shape of the housing greatly affects the sound of headphones and speakers. Of course we don't know how much effort they put into designing the housing but I would bet that they put in more effort than most people would be willing or able to do on their own.
I am always confused seeing 3D-print channels struggling with... well... printing. How is PETG difficult? It prints almost as easy as PLA. You can have perfect results every single time. Just use the generic PETG settings from Prusa every time. It just works. It is not the material. You just lack the experience with the material. But that is no problem, because Prusa did the work for us. The moment you start understanding that, you will forget about ABS and just go PETG. No toxic fumes, no splitting parts, no trouble. On another note: Thanks for the great video! This projecte is awesome! :-)
I'm 58. And I can see the unlimited potential for products designed in this fashion. Consider space travel...the amount of cargo space that could be saved with the ability to print whatever you need, By not having to pack it and carry it with you. Not to mention replacement parts along the way.... this is Brilliant.
Dan Clarke Audio started off as Mr Speakers by 3D printing the cups for Fostex planar-magnetic drivers. You need science and engineering with measurements to get good at it, not just technology.
Hey Angus, the "Rogue Bagel" is a great track which I didn't know before, thanks for mentioning it! As for the M50x -- if you buy a set of replacement ear pads for them from eBay, they get waaaaay more comfortable, they don't cost much and no tool needed to replace them. Their sound does change a tiny bit, but not much. Try "Memory Foam EarPads Cushion For Audio-Technica ATH-M50x Headset" to find them. Thanks for this review as well, interesting kit but seem rather expensive for the amount of work one needs to put in to make them in the end.
Thanks for another enjoyable and informative review! You've definitely put Vector Finesse on my radar, I'm still fairly new to this hobby but this sounds like a project. Also, the "bit of custom g-code" for the stand might be an interesting read for noobs such as myself. (I'd have to make all of these parts print on a standard Ender3Pro and any edge would be useful.)
This might be exactly what I was looking for! My cheap headphones keep breaking, and it's stupid to throw away that much stuff. I'll be looking into these!
I've been using infill as an acoustic chamber+filler for as long as i have a 3d printer, and i'm really surprised it is done so rarely. This is probably the first time i see someone else do it. I mostly use rectilinear, it is still air-permeable, but prints faster.
I use PETG quite a bit and have found that for larger parts to help stop warping I use "3D LAC plus", it also helps as a release agent to stop damage to you build plate, the build plate I use is a carborundum one.
Cool idea, I would've assumed doing this sort of '3D print parts yourself' would be paired with cheaper prices than other headphones on the market, but a quick look at the website still showed that electronics or even an assembled headset were still just as expensive, or almost twice as expensive as other headphone companies, like Astro for example. Like I said, cool idea, but a bit of a disappointing price tag.
You could source the parts yourself pretty easily and save some change doing the soldering yourself, thankfully there's no secret sauce in the components choices.
@@MakersMuse Certainly, I don't doubt its not difficult to replicate a similar product, just that as a company that advertises a 3D printable headset, I naturally assume that the business model is that by allowing consumers to make half the parts themselves, it would result in a cheaper product - but I guess not in this case :)
I got into 3d printing because I loved a pair of headphones that through simple damage became unwearable while otherwise fully functional. So yeah I'm really into these.
Nice to see another company jumped on the headphones 3D printing bandwagon! Dan Clark has been making 3D printed headphones for a long time, or he did back in the day. I'm not sure if he does anymore. The headphones he brought out were renowned by the audio community. His newer stuff still is. He actually released his STL files for free a while back. Making them has been a favorite project amongst many audiophiles for years now.
An important note on sound comparison with the M50x: the Bluetooth models sound quite a bit different from the wired-only models, at least in my experience. The wired models are much closer to a flat frequency response while the Bluetooth ones are more typical of casual listening.
I have a problem Angus. I love headphones...I already have way too many of them laying around. I find them really enjoyable to play with, to test, to listen with, and you've piqued my interest. I love the idea of being able to produce my own headphones! Looks like I have some researching and ordering to do...
It‘s almost worse for me. I like headphones, and I love good headphones, but (especially since I work remotely a lot and spend most of my days on video calls) I don‘t really enjoy using them anymore 😣 So I‘m constantly torn between wanting to buy another nice pair and knowing I won‘t really use them much anyway!
MPOW makes a BT device that will drive devices w/ a 3.5mm jack. Has its own microphone. My vehicle has a tape deck and I use a 15+ yr old cassette adapter w/ a headphone plug and the MPOW device to run hands free while driving.
You can try using velour or velvet earpads. This will give you more balanced frequency response with more clear hi-mids and treble. Also you can try thinner pads (leather, velour, velvet, etc.). I just ended a mod project with an old bad sounding Behringer HPX2000. I replaced the old 40mm drivers with 50mm, very similiar to yours. Also replaced driver holders, 3D printed. I tried from about 10 pairs of pads - pu-leather, velour and velvet, different sizes and tickness. Of course, the much important thing is the driver itself, but the pads can seriously alter the overall sound response. The use of leather pads brings nice bass, but also muddier sound in the mids and highs. I ended with velvet pads and sound very close to ATH-M50, which is one of my favourite headphones.
Last time I researched "3D printed headphones", it was a kit-bashed pair of Koss neckphones. This actually intrigues me, because ideally I'd like to be able to completely repair my cans if the ear cushions or the strap die. Also the name is catchy, and now I'm hungry for edamame. Mmm.
Oh, now you need to score a Songbird turntable and develop a 3d printed headphone amp (one Tom did with a speaker could easily be used) for an entire system. Make for a great little series.
If I remember correctly, the MrSpeakers Alpha Dog used custom 3D printed earcups to directly alter the acoustic characteristics of the Fostex T50RP it modified.
Warping on PETG? I can safely say this has never been an issue for me even with an open frame printer, using tons of cooling, in the middle of winter without my heater on. Stringing can be an issue when I haven't dried it in a while. Other than that petg has been my go to filament for years now.
I will forever be amazed at how this man has managed to destroy beds by printing on them. I use PETG and I've never even been able to so much as scratch mine, save the time I dropped a knife on it.
@@MakersMuse alright, comments seems to be working again. I'll just give a link if you ask. it's just a bunch of clear PETG prints and a lens I pulled off my machine. I use the seafoam-colored soda lime glass (as opposed to the yellowish borosilicate stuff) supplied with my cr-10s, and a glue stick- one of those purple ones that smells like cabbage and organic litmus paper. Most people print PETG like it was PET or ABS but I just print at 225c to 235c slowly, with a max of 45mm/s, usually around 20-30mm/s. I've produced completely transparent parts, and even lenses, so seeing so much destruction when you have thinner surfaces touching the build plate is really odd. perhaps I've stumbled upon the idea that reducing adhesion for the first couple layers is optimal here. it's definitely possible.
Love how despite Intensive Care Unit being in the thumbnail it wasn't mentioned in the part where you talked about music you listened to with them lmao.
There's a Bluetooth Audio Reciever (it's used in old car's stereo that cannot connect to your phone) which has an inbuilt battery, you could use it on these headphones and turn it wireless.
I generally prefer open backs for gaming (sound design too) as they produce a wider sound stage than closed backs. It helps a lot in picking out a sounds location. Of course like you said, you loose that low end response with open backs, but I think you also make up for it with usually better transient response.
This video was sent from heaven. Just the other day I spent hours looking for a slightly warmer and bassier upgrade from my worn out HD599s. A pair of comfy closed back 50mm cans for sub $200 ? That sounds like it's worth a try. Can you make any statement on how they compare to any model of Sennheiser's HD500 line? (own most of them so that'd be a huge help for my final decision)
WHY MUST YOU GIVE US MORE THINGS TO MAKE?!?! No seriously though, these are awesome! Such a cool concept, will definitely be picking up a kit! Frankly, I want to try and find those mini XLR jacks so I can convert some Mini XLR lav mics we have to 3.5mm I did not know you could easily source the jacks! Great project!
It might be interesting to see a pass-through XLR Jack microphone, then you don't have to modify the construction of the headphones and you can use one of the mini xlrs to attach it.
print this out of ultem :) ALSO GOD YOUR PAPER AUDIO TECHNICAS MADE ME SCREAM, SOOOO COOL! i wanna print one in abs and acetone smooth it but it'd be.. risky
Loved the video. And yes, I also like a good pair of earphones. Not the type you get with your cellphone, they are practical, but that is it. Repair vs replace. I lost a nice pair of earphones due to a connector breaking on the ear cup. Rest still works fine. So being able to rapair the broken plastic would have been awesome. And once again Makers Muse greated a great sound track for the video. Thank you.
Ok my review, the bad things first. 2 months shipping from Canada to Australia. I'd buy the files but source the parts yourself, much quicker. I ordered the parts kit with the BNDC 40mm drivers, one was dead on arrival after and the other was 44.8 ohms and cut out after a few minutes of using them. Emailed Vector Finesse for replacements, but no response, I guess I'm not important enough like a youtuber. Ended up getting replacement BNDC drivers from Digikey and only 1 week delivery from US to Australia. I also got the 40mm Peerless versions as well in the hope of a comparison. One of the BNDC drivers was dead on arrival as well so I don't think the build quality is up to scratch with these drivers, so I would get the 40mm Peerless drivers and not waste your time and money on the BNDC's. Now the good stuff - They sound awesome and very comfortable. So in summary, I'd source the parts yourself for much quicker delivery. Get the Peerless 40mm drivers over the BNDC as they seem more reliable and they are cheaper.
Awesome video. My daily drivers are some Fostex T50RP. There is a big modding community for these and some really great 3D printed earcup designs which take them for half open to closed. I use mine mostly unmodified but if that sound interesting, there is a giant rabbit hole ahead ;)
I print PETG all day long on my Prusa i3 Mk2s and it's my favorite material to print with. Just dry it if it has sat for a while to cut down on the stringing and use Windex (glass cleaner) on your print bed, like the Prusa manual suggests, to cut down on the adhesion a little.
I have the prusa manual on my desktop for 'later reading', I also have a broken glass bed from a petg print adhering too much. Sounds like I should have read the manual sooner :)
@@andrecook4268 Windex works great on the Prusa PEI coated bed to act as a release agent for PETG. I'm not sure how well it works on glass as a release agent, but I've seen people use a thin layer of glue stick (on RUclips) with good success.
I was using glass/painters tape/glue stick - which is what I use for ABS. It was too good. I've gone to an off-brand PEI sheet, I was waiting till my glass/tape setup stopped working before I got the sheet out lol.
Funny story, looking for a replacement for my AKG K7XX since they are breaking down (elastic band and cracking plastic strap sliders) and before that I used my M50x. Also I had a 99 Civic with a big ass sub that would shake the car hard enough to point the rear view mirror down. Talk about hitting home.
Very neat! Always happy to see another AKG fan. I'm very happy with my AKG K240's with their semi-open back design, but did grab my attention. It's a bit unfortunate that the infill and material plays such an integral role in the sound quality (though not unexpected), so I can't just whack some holes in the STLs and call it "open back". Either way, I hope this opens the door for more iterations of the idea, and maybe I, too, can have some orange headphones to match my orange accented office :D
Considering so many of my $80 odd (and more) headphones have had the plastic fail in the last 5 years this actually seems a good idea as it would be easy to repair.
Great review, I like a tight bass response from headphones. I bought a set of gaming headphones from manufacturer, I don't want to criticise here. Yes, I the headphones was comfortable, but lacked the tight base I was used to from my Sennheiser HD518s, and yes they cost slightly less, but I expected alot more for what I paid. I then ordered me a pair of Sennheiser special Drop PC37x edition and that signature tight bass sound and clarity did not disappoint. I would love tho try these, they look super cool and must sound amazing.
Angus! Glad to hear we earned a "spot on the shelf"!
Will get STL orientation sorted into the next file update, and get to work on a location for a mic!
*Editing comment to say that STL orientations and Left/Right are fixed in v1.5 files!*
Easy tweaks, enjoy the F1!
Can we get a hybrid Bluetooth version?
Nice! this is how a good company responds, and I agree, a mic and maybee a wifi/bluetooth version as well..haha, you guys are gonna break my wallet :D
@@Scott_C You can easily mod it to mate with the likes of the Fiio BTR5 or whatever :)
Would love to see a mic upgrade as my kid is always breaking his set of gaming headphones. O'l dad could just whip up the parts on the printer, repair, childhood bliss and hero status restored.
would be interesting to see how different filament types affect sound, and like others mentioned; Dankpods needs a set of shrek green ones
But it'll be invisible on the ipad cover!
@@MakersMuse there is a white logo on the iPad so I think it would be visible.
First thought was dank pods needs a set to review
@@WillFuI r/whoosh
@@Steph.98114 no
Vector Finesse should totally get a use of that new 3MF format, will save end users from manually applying all the slicer settings.
after seeing the I made a thing crossover I now know I need the Dankpods crossover.
*Purple Lines* : loved it .. I want a 1 hour version.
As an soft audiophile and a full on maker, this is a treat and im surprised they invested the extra dough to officially include Brainwavz ear pads!
I frickin love your channel Angus, really keeps me motivated and inspired to keep building!
Thanks man! Happy making :)
SEND THEM TO DANKPODS!!!!!
Oh boy wad this too early
I'm so glad vector finesse is getting a shout out here. I've been watching their will it print series forever and got sad when they stopped
Shpongle, Ott, Hallucinogen, Younger Brother - an amazing family, love them all!
The concept of items being sold in kit form and for easy repair is fantastic, I hope other manufacturers take the same step forward to making their goods more environmentally friendly, if you had a solar powered printer with recycled filament it would close to 100% win 👍😊😻🏴🦤🦖
they wont because it dont make them money. Imagine if car companies made their cars they dont rust. Then they dont sell you repair service and spare parts. It's a cool idea long term for the planet and all but the rich pockets wont do it.
@@TommiHonkonen That's certainly a issue, but if people wanted durable stuff, they would need to pay for it. A car that doesn't rust would cost a lot more than one that does in just material cost. They don't name stuff like they used to, but that stuff is also significantly cheaper than it used to be.
The more I watch this channel, the more I like it. I have seen Ott live a few times, he is an excellent artist! Great choice!
Great video, I hope dank pods sees this and gives them a go too
You can reduce the bass by adding melamine foam in the enclosure behind the driver, or by taping a couple holes evenly along the back of the Peerless drivers! Opening the enclosure to the outside will actually increase the bass. Taping too many driver ports could slightly reduce dynamics response though, but if you want to make an enclosure designed around this it's fine ;)
Those specific 40mm drivers are actually designed for open backs. I haven't tried the 50mm but their response chart looks far middy/bassier, so go with your own discretion but those are supposedly designed for closed backs. I will agree that the Peerless' bass fidelity is insane, unlike anything I've heard in a phone below $250.
I'm actually shocked that I couldn't find this product in my searches for 3D printed headphones, so I designed my own hifi closed backs for sale and their progress are coming along nicely (over 1000 hours of work on these frickin things). I'll post a brief design overview on my channel soon-ish (edit: see link in replies), and I welcome all criticism for when they finally go up for grabs.
Great review Angus, it's cool to see a headphone review focused on the manufacturing aspects. This was definitely a surprise in my feed.
Awesome feedback thanks! I know where to start messing with things. Definitely let me know once you drop your design I'd love to check it out.
@@MakersMuse I'd love to see a Maker's Muse mod of this haha. Here's a brief bit of info about my current progress, I'll definitely update you when it's ready! ruclips.net/video/FE6wSyxjJLM/видео.html
Head(amame) is totally a riff on "Skull Candy". It is a superfood for your ears 😊
I... didnt think of it that way! head(amame) actually came from a reddit comment saying the headband looked like edamame beans!
Time for a Collab with @DankPods ? I know lockdown is kinda holding that stuff back down there but he's an Aussie too and if you haven't seen his channel I'd highly recommend it for not only iPod content but a good laugh as well 😂
i love his content but dankpods is somewhat weird but that is also why i love his channel
Those are slick. I agree with the undersize earcups - I've had headphones I really enjoyed that I just couldn't wear anymore because of how uncomfortable they are. The head(amame) earcups look super comfortable.
Didn't expect you to mention HexiBase! Such an awesome channel!
I had to keep scrolling until I found a mention. I want to build everything he designs
These solves this problem I know everyone around me have, headphones break and is not easy to repair, so most end up purchase something cheap and somewhat okay, thanks Angus for showing this, it´s EXACTLY what I have been looking for a long time!
So now, a bluetooth version and one with a mic, that would make this my go to headphones, I will save up to by and try this out, without a doubt, I always seem to brake mine due to me tripping on cables and stuff, hence I use wireless "okayish" ones
I agree with Franz Rupert as well, to send to DankPods and also to Hexibase or make a collab with them on these and sling ideas back and forth!
Think it would be even cooler if they could provide files as placeholders for the audio components so you could try buying the pieces and then designing your own actual 3D printed housings
But the housing affects the sound.
And I doubt anyone could design a better sounding housing than they did.
Just the R&D you would have to put into it would be insane.
@@Jehty_ true but if people want to try making their own version that doesn’t seem like a big enough reason to just say they couldn’t do it?
@@carrotylemons1190 that's probably not the reason why they don't do it.
It's just the reason why I think it doesn't make sense to design your own.
@@Jehty_ I don't think it affects it THAT much, they are exaggerating a lot.
@@MiGujack3 the shape of the housing greatly affects the sound of headphones and speakers.
Of course we don't know how much effort they put into designing the housing but I would bet that they put in more effort than most people would be willing or able to do on their own.
cant wait for a dank pods review where he drills out them to be open backs
He'd 1 Grit them.
I just had so much joy as a daily ipod classic user to see you use an iPod classic for some reason Angus 😂 great video as always. Keep it up m8.
I am always confused seeing 3D-print channels struggling with... well... printing.
How is PETG difficult? It prints almost as easy as PLA.
You can have perfect results every single time.
Just use the generic PETG settings from Prusa every time.
It just works.
It is not the material. You just lack the experience with the material. But that is no problem, because Prusa did the work for us.
The moment you start understanding that, you will forget about ABS and just go PETG. No toxic fumes, no splitting parts, no trouble.
On another note:
Thanks for the great video! This projecte is awesome!
:-)
Dankpods collab when?
He'd be a perfect test candidate
I'm 58. And I can see the unlimited potential for products designed in this fashion. Consider space travel...the amount of cargo space that could be saved with the ability to print whatever you need, By not having to pack it and carry it with you. Not to mention replacement parts along the way.... this is Brilliant.
Dan Clarke Audio started off as Mr Speakers by 3D printing the cups for Fostex planar-magnetic drivers. You need science and engineering with measurements to get good at it, not just technology.
Can't wait to get tinkering on these myself. Vector Finesse just acknowledged that this video increased demand way over what they had in stock.
I'm glad to see this video. I've been eyeing those headphones for a while, and plan to build a pair. Your video just sealed the deal for me, now.
Dank pods has to get his hands on these eventually
You beat me to it.
Hey Angus, the "Rogue Bagel" is a great track which I didn't know before, thanks for mentioning it!
As for the M50x -- if you buy a set of replacement ear pads for them from eBay, they get waaaaay more comfortable, they don't cost much and no tool needed to replace them. Their sound does change a tiny bit, but not much. Try "Memory Foam EarPads Cushion For Audio-Technica ATH-M50x Headset" to find them.
Thanks for this review as well, interesting kit but seem rather expensive for the amount of work one needs to put in to make them in the end.
Thanks for another enjoyable and informative review! You've definitely put Vector Finesse on my radar, I'm still fairly new to this hobby but this sounds like a project. Also, the "bit of custom g-code" for the stand might be an interesting read for noobs such as myself. (I'd have to make all of these parts print on a standard Ender3Pro and any edge would be useful.)
Couldn't agree more with the colour choice 👍
Your music has some lovely Dirt Rally soundtrack kind of vibe and I love it!
Making the orange part steps public would be awesome. I see so much possibilities to make them unique
Angus, you're my favorite wildlife channel, including your wild hairs ❤️
Can't get a haircut might as well embrace it! X3
This might be exactly what I was looking for! My cheap headphones keep breaking, and it's stupid to throw away that much stuff. I'll be looking into these!
Using the gyroid infill for improving sound quality is just ingenius
I've been using infill as an acoustic chamber+filler for as long as i have a 3d printer, and i'm really surprised it is done so rarely. This is probably the first time i see someone else do it.
I mostly use rectilinear, it is still air-permeable, but prints faster.
I use PETG quite a bit and have found that for larger parts to help stop warping I use "3D LAC plus", it also helps as a release agent to stop damage to you build plate, the build plate I use is a carborundum one.
Cool idea, I would've assumed doing this sort of '3D print parts yourself' would be paired with cheaper prices than other headphones on the market, but a quick look at the website still showed that electronics or even an assembled headset were still just as expensive, or almost twice as expensive as other headphone companies, like Astro for example. Like I said, cool idea, but a bit of a disappointing price tag.
You could source the parts yourself pretty easily and save some change doing the soldering yourself, thankfully there's no secret sauce in the components choices.
@@MakersMuse Certainly, I don't doubt its not difficult to replicate a similar product, just that as a company that advertises a 3D printable headset, I naturally assume that the business model is that by allowing consumers to make half the parts themselves, it would result in a cheaper product - but I guess not in this case :)
Purple Lines is a solid synth jam Angus, happy synthing!
I got into 3d printing because I loved a pair of headphones that through simple damage became unwearable while otherwise fully functional. So yeah I'm really into these.
Nice to see another company jumped on the headphones 3D printing bandwagon! Dan Clark has been making 3D printed headphones for a long time, or he did back in the day. I'm not sure if he does anymore. The headphones he brought out were renowned by the audio community. His newer stuff still is. He actually released his STL files for free a while back. Making them has been a favorite project amongst many audiophiles for years now.
An important note on sound comparison with the M50x: the Bluetooth models sound quite a bit different from the wired-only models, at least in my experience. The wired models are much closer to a flat frequency response while the Bluetooth ones are more typical of casual listening.
Hmm good to know! I'm not really into them when at the PC but the bluetooth is really handy and well, they were purple.
You must send them to dankpods!
I have never seen an entire roll of filament unravel all crazy you should film that!
I have a problem Angus. I love headphones...I already have way too many of them laying around. I find them really enjoyable to play with, to test, to listen with, and you've piqued my interest. I love the idea of being able to produce my own headphones! Looks like I have some researching and ordering to do...
It‘s almost worse for me. I like headphones, and I love good headphones, but (especially since I work remotely a lot and spend most of my days on video calls) I don‘t really enjoy using them anymore 😣 So I‘m constantly torn between wanting to buy another nice pair and knowing I won‘t really use them much anyway!
Really dig Purple Lines. That percussion line is slick.
MPOW makes a BT device that will drive devices w/ a 3.5mm jack. Has its own microphone. My vehicle has a tape deck and I use a 15+ yr old cassette adapter w/ a headphone plug and the MPOW device to run hands free while driving.
You can try using velour or velvet earpads. This will give you more balanced frequency response with more clear hi-mids and treble. Also you can try thinner pads (leather, velour, velvet, etc.).
I just ended a mod project with an old bad sounding Behringer HPX2000. I replaced the old 40mm drivers with 50mm, very similiar to yours. Also replaced driver holders, 3D printed. I tried from about 10 pairs of pads - pu-leather, velour and velvet, different sizes and tickness. Of course, the much important thing is the driver itself, but the pads can seriously alter the overall sound response.
The use of leather pads brings nice bass, but also muddier sound in the mids and highs. I ended with velvet pads and sound very close to ATH-M50, which is one of my favourite headphones.
Last time I researched "3D printed headphones", it was a kit-bashed pair of Koss neckphones. This actually intrigues me, because ideally I'd like to be able to completely repair my cans if the ear cushions or the strap die. Also the name is catchy, and now I'm hungry for edamame. Mmm.
The webcam idea is definitely possible with the use of raspberry pi and pi camera!
Would love to see you explore that further
Oh, now you need to score a Songbird turntable and develop a 3d printed headphone amp (one Tom did with a speaker could easily be used) for an entire system. Make for a great little series.
Will be watching for future updates/upgrades on this one! This is the sort of things I really like!!!!! Thanks Angus!
Loved the music in this video!
Just wanna say that I like your purple lines tune!
Thanks! Used the MegaFM to make the main riff.
If I remember correctly, the MrSpeakers Alpha Dog used custom 3D printed earcups to directly alter the acoustic characteristics of the Fostex T50RP it modified.
Warping on PETG? I can safely say this has never been an issue for me even with an open frame printer, using tons of cooling, in the middle of winter without my heater on.
Stringing can be an issue when I haven't dried it in a while. Other than that petg has been my go to filament for years now.
PETG is the only thing I can print reliably in my non climate controlled garage.
Very nice concept, bass is something that has always been missing in headphones I've used.
I always wanted to make my own 3D printed headphones. This kit sounds pretty cool.
The real question everyone has, though:
How does it hold up against trusty old 1 grit?
I will forever be amazed at how this man has managed to destroy beds by printing on them. I use PETG and I've never even been able to so much as scratch mine, save the time I dropped a knife on it.
What's the surface? Glass ones always die on me eventually even with glue stick. Lol
well, I tried replying but youtube deleted my comments several times in a row. this is frustrating to say the least. testing, testing, 1,2,3....
@@MakersMuse alright, comments seems to be working again. I'll just give a link if you ask. it's just a bunch of clear PETG prints and a lens I pulled off my machine. I use the seafoam-colored soda lime glass (as opposed to the yellowish borosilicate stuff) supplied with my cr-10s, and a glue stick- one of those purple ones that smells like cabbage and organic litmus paper. Most people print PETG like it was PET or ABS but I just print at 225c to 235c slowly, with a max of 45mm/s, usually around 20-30mm/s. I've produced completely transparent parts, and even lenses, so seeing so much destruction when you have thinner surfaces touching the build plate is really odd. perhaps I've stumbled upon the idea that reducing adhesion for the first couple layers is optimal here. it's definitely possible.
Interesting that you hear good bass response when the response curves you showed indicate that the bass is really dropped off by the drivers
Very cool, this company had a great idea, I hope they work on other things we can use
Love how despite Intensive Care Unit being in the thumbnail it wasn't mentioned in the part where you talked about music you listened to with them lmao.
I chose a more socially acceptable track lol
I hear a dingus man shouting about these in the distance
There's a Bluetooth Audio Reciever (it's used in old car's stereo that cannot connect to your phone) which has an inbuilt battery, you could use it on these headphones and turn it wireless.
I generally prefer open backs for gaming (sound design too) as they produce a wider sound stage than closed backs. It helps a lot in picking out a sounds location. Of course like you said, you loose that low end response with open backs, but I think you also make up for it with usually better transient response.
You dont loose that bottom end with planar magnetics in open backs ;).
more companies need to develop products with replaceable parts. great video buddy
This video was sent from heaven. Just the other day I spent hours looking for a slightly warmer and bassier upgrade from my worn out HD599s.
A pair of comfy closed back 50mm cans for sub $200 ? That sounds like it's worth a try.
Can you make any statement on how they compare to any model of Sennheiser's HD500 line? (own most of them so that'd be a huge help for my final decision)
Wait, if you're listenning the Ott, you should listen his mixed album Hallucinogen - In Dub too. Certainly, in _this_ headphones.
WHY MUST YOU GIVE US MORE THINGS TO MAKE?!?! No seriously though, these are awesome! Such a cool concept, will definitely be picking up a kit! Frankly, I want to try and find those mini XLR jacks so I can convert some Mini XLR lav mics we have to 3.5mm I did not know you could easily source the jacks! Great project!
It might be interesting to see a pass-through XLR Jack microphone, then you don't have to modify the construction of the headphones and you can use one of the mini xlrs to attach it.
Thanks for this Angus, just bought the 50mm beasts based on your review!
Yo Fairchildren by Ott fucked my mind for life, you've got that good taste.
hoo boy, making me wish I still had my old sony mdr-v700s, I never thought of 3d printing to repair those.
I spy Intensive Care Unit in the thumbnail. Good album 😉
The Club still holds up today as a fave, totally insane haha
Makes me think of your edelkrone vids
Yeah they did some pretty neat things
interesting design 👍
great video as always 👍😀
Thanks for sharing your experience with all of us👍😀
Asger,you live in DK too, right ?
-And you've taught electronics on AMU ?
@@68HC060 Yep you are rigtht
@@avejst Oh, and get yourself some cash from the ATM. You never know if credit card payment system will be affected.
print this out of ultem :)
ALSO GOD YOUR PAPER AUDIO TECHNICAS MADE ME SCREAM, SOOOO COOL!
i wanna print one in abs and acetone smooth it but it'd be.. risky
Loved the video. And yes, I also like a good pair of earphones. Not the type you get with your cellphone, they are practical, but that is it.
Repair vs replace. I lost a nice pair of earphones due to a connector breaking on the ear cup. Rest still works fine. So being able to rapair the broken plastic would have been awesome.
And once again Makers Muse greated a great sound track for the video. Thank you.
Hmm looking at these prices i think i will stick to the fully modular AIAIAI
Excellent, thanks. Hands up everyone who had a Rogue Bagel for breakfast after watching this.
They will only become interesting to me once they have files for open vs closed variants, so I can order 2 kits and build one open and one closed.
Ok my review, the bad things first. 2 months shipping from Canada to Australia. I'd buy the files but source the parts yourself, much quicker. I ordered the parts kit with the BNDC 40mm drivers, one was dead on arrival after and the other was 44.8 ohms and cut out after a few minutes of using them. Emailed Vector Finesse for replacements, but no response, I guess I'm not important enough like a youtuber. Ended up getting replacement BNDC drivers from Digikey and only 1 week delivery from US to Australia. I also got the 40mm Peerless versions as well in the hope of a comparison. One of the BNDC drivers was dead on arrival as well so I don't think the build quality is up to scratch with these drivers, so I would get the 40mm Peerless drivers and not waste your time and money on the BNDC's.
Now the good stuff - They sound awesome and very comfortable.
So in summary, I'd source the parts yourself for much quicker delivery. Get the Peerless 40mm drivers over the BNDC as they seem more reliable and they are cheaper.
iv wanted to print my own head phones for some time i think i would enjoy this.
Awesome video. My daily drivers are some Fostex T50RP. There is a big modding community for these and some really great 3D printed earcup designs which take them for half open to closed. I use mine mostly unmodified but if that sound interesting, there is a giant rabbit hole ahead ;)
I print PETG all day long on my Prusa i3 Mk2s and it's my favorite material to print with. Just dry it if it has sat for a while to cut down on the stringing and use Windex (glass cleaner) on your print bed, like the Prusa manual suggests, to cut down on the adhesion a little.
I have the prusa manual on my desktop for 'later reading', I also have a broken glass bed from a petg print adhering too much. Sounds like I should have read the manual sooner :)
@@andrecook4268 Windex works great on the Prusa PEI coated bed to act as a release agent for PETG. I'm not sure how well it works on glass as a release agent, but I've seen people use a thin layer of glue stick (on RUclips) with good success.
I was using glass/painters tape/glue stick - which is what I use for ABS. It was too good.
I've gone to an off-brand PEI sheet, I was waiting till my glass/tape setup stopped working before I got the sheet out lol.
As an owner of both M50X's and Logitech G Pro cans, I would be very interested in trying a set of these.
Maybe after I finish the workshop
Loved this video, i was recently thinking about getting some new head phones
For that price they better be perfect.
Excellent project 👍
Funny story, looking for a replacement for my AKG K7XX since they are breaking down (elastic band and cracking plastic strap sliders) and before that I used my M50x. Also I had a 99 Civic with a big ass sub that would shake the car hard enough to point the rear view mirror down. Talk about hitting home.
Very neat! Always happy to see another AKG fan. I'm very happy with my AKG K240's with their semi-open back design, but did grab my attention. It's a bit unfortunate that the infill and material plays such an integral role in the sound quality (though not unexpected), so I can't just whack some holes in the STLs and call it "open back". Either way, I hope this opens the door for more iterations of the idea, and maybe I, too, can have some orange headphones to match my orange accented office :D
Considering so many of my $80 odd (and more) headphones have had the plastic fail in the last 5 years this actually seems a good idea as it would be easy to repair.
Purple Lines, nice track!. Reminds me of Tycho
Go for the print+ kit instead.. they are awesome
💙 Ott. "The Queen of All Everything" is a beautiful track.
I definitely need to build a set of these.
There must be a mod community for them already, right? If not, I hope it happens soon
Great review, I like a tight bass response from headphones. I bought a set of gaming headphones from manufacturer, I don't want to criticise here. Yes, I the headphones was comfortable, but lacked the tight base I was used to from my Sennheiser HD518s, and yes they cost slightly less, but I expected alot more for what I paid. I then ordered me a pair of Sennheiser special Drop PC37x edition and that signature tight bass sound and clarity did not disappoint. I would love tho try these, they look super cool and must sound amazing.