Relic Hunting With A Military PI Metal Detector - Vallon VMH3CS
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- Опубликовано: 12 апр 2019
- In this episode I'm trying out the "Vallon VMH3CS", a military pulse induction metal detector. This unit has been used in war. I've purchased it to see if a PI machine can finally give me some depth...
I never used a PI detector before. I have another (home made) PI unit here, which was not working in my soil because of lack of ground balance adjustment.
The Vallon VMH3CS is different. It has "Mineral Mode" which came pretty handy right after the start.
I was learning this machine on the fly, as I made the video. I hope it was not too painful to watch... The camera was adjusted with the wrong angle and the EMI caused by the Garrett pinpointer was very annoying.
I read the manual once before leaving home and mistook the adjustment of the tone frequency for the frequency offset. I applied a button combination, the tone changed and I thought, that was the only option...
Because the VMH3CS is a pulse induction machine, it doesn't have any type of iron discrimination. In this case there only is one option - to dig all targets. One could maybe try to avoid the double beeping ones, but...
If the area contains a lot of iron, it can make the detecting experience extremely difficult and unpleasant. I knew and expected it, therefor it wasn't a problem.
The Vallon VMH3CS is relatively heavy with its 5.5 lbs (2,5 Kg). The coil itself is light (unlike on some other detectors), but the overall weight (with three D batteries) is "noticeable"...
Fortunately times are changing. When I looked at the (Vallon) manufacturers website, they now offer a newer, ultra light and compact model. Unfortunately as a new unit (offered to the military only (?)) the price must be out of reach. I could try to find one in 10-15 years ;).
I was very surprised when the thin, small silver coins popped out of the ground. I pulled a chunk of iron first. Would I do the same with the Xp Deus? The iron piece was big enough to mask the other targets. I'm only speculating, but I'm pretty confident that I would have "missed" (or not decide to dig) it with my usual machine.
I'm very curious about one thing... The purpose of this metal detector is finding dangerous items. How would this work, when you are in an area filled with bits and pieces of iron/metallic objects (and a bunch of people waiting for progress).
All it takes is to spread/plant similar sounding bits of metal around the dangerous device, to nail the detecting person to one place for hours.
It would be interesting to see video footage from a real mission, or an exercise. It is just hard for me to imagine how this would work in reality...
I will try to use this detector again in certain scenarios...
If you want to see the specs, you will find it here: www.vallon.de/products.lasso?a...
Or here: www.vallon.de/pdf/VMH3CS_Leafl...
Thanks for watching.
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Again I thank you for the journey! Noticed right away you were picking up some deeper signals. Pulse induction detectors are very useful in places that have been heavily detected! Loved the finds! Button had a nice design! 👍😃
You did well for the first time out... nice finds and some practice with the new machine. Cheers!
Thank you. Cheers :).
You got there in the end and had some pretty good finds. X
Hi there I've had my vallon for over a year and thanks to your video i can make sense of it cheers mate
Thank you for the comment. I'm glad if that's the case. Cheers :).
Interesting machine! Nice hunt! Thanks for the video!
I've recently seen a new pulse detector being used for the first time by some very experienced detectorist.in a field that has been heavily detected over the years with fantastic results. Seems to be great on deep targets. They found a lot of gold jewelry and older silver coins. They were very impressed. You did well for the first time using it.
Thank you for the comment. Not every PI detector can live up to its expectations. When I buried a 20 (Euro) Cent coin in the ground, this unit could hardly see it at a depth of my pinpointer. I'm not convinced yet...
Great hunt and finds mate thanks for sharing enjoyed watching 👍👍👍👍👍
Had fun watching you work. and sweet cords man.
Just bought one. Looks good in use. Pretty bad ass detector. Looks down to earth and tough. Can't wait to get mine!
How did you rate the Vallon? I'm thinking of getting one Plus i am a rookie.
I just bought the vallon VMR2 Mine Detector. What y’all think about it?
A great video, some good finds keep at it.
Thank you.
Thank you! Have a great day.
All I can say is well done and you have far more patience than I do. I think I would have thrown it after 10 minutes lol👍👍👍
I’ve been looking at these on eBay.
After watching you, I think I will be investing in one shortly 😁
Thank you on an excellent video
Thank you very much for watching and for the comment. Cheers :).
Great video MD24. It would be good if you did another video for prospective buyers , showing how to operate the detector including ground compensation and how to adjust the sensitivity. I took delivery of my Vallon yesterday, very pleased and mega value for money.
New toys are exciting! But sometimes not in a good way. You'll get it sorted out sooner or later.
That's true, it often is the case with metal detectors. It's exciting, until they arrive... :)
You did it well for the first hunt with this metal detector..overall my favorite metal detector still is the xp deus..because of the separation and the sound (the military metal detector has some annoying sounds in combination with the pinpointer)and love the weight of the deus 👍
Interesting toy we do need to check this one out on more hunts ... Thank you .
Hello Zelda, there probably are place and scenarios where this detector would shine. I just need to find them...
Thank you for watching.
Sonic booms?? Nice finds while using a new detector!! Congratulations
Wow... Nice metal detector Sir
Thank you :).
@@MetalDetecting24 I'm a rookie is the Vallon a good start?
This is ideal for hedge hunting as the more I watch the video I realise you use it like motion detector which it’s definitely not this was a very interesting introduction to this kind of machine.
I am not sure whether to say congratulations on the new machine or not. But it would have driven me crazy. Think I will stick to my Ace. Very nice coins though.
Waiting in anticipation for your next video. Stay safe.
Thank you Robin. I will try to shift the frequency and see if the issue disappears. Hunting like this would be madness (in the long term).
I hope to be able to upload a new video for tomorrow, but I'm not sure if it will be ready...
P.s. In case you saw a different answer before... I wrote it to another person (below) and accidentally replied to you. I deleted it.
A bumpy start but some real nice discoveries overall. You may not have done any better with your other detector. Not a bad hunt at all so I believe further testing would not be a bad idea. Thanks for sharing. I would go with whichever detector was the least expensive as the results are likely close to the same.
Two nice silver coins , bits and bobs . Think your need some more time on your new machine to really sort it out. Thanks for sharing
At least the trip ended with a smile!
That's true :). Thank you very much for watching! Have a great day.
I've been looking at those machines online. They seam curious , and obviously find treasure , even small items. The sound wouldn't bother me. Kinda used to it using a vintage whites all the time. Don't like digital. Those silver coins were awesome. Hope to seeing you using that machine again in the future. Great video.
Nice video, congratulations good weekend
Thank you very much, I wish you a great week.
It’s capable of finding good targets but it really liked lead and iron. Be great for finding cannon balls. You will get it sorted out. Great video
Thank you for the comment. I hope for some advantages over the Deus. I will try to find a place where it "could" show its strength...
I agree not to sure but you did find some remarkable relics it could be you just not used it enough and need to read the manual a little more it is new to you what ever you decide it was a great hunt. I wish you good luck on your next hunt and be safe
Cool! I've got a Whites TDI Pulse Scan Pro
Nice setup md24
Thank you. Cheers.
13:54, You are right, it doesn't rain in the Army it rains ON the Army.
j'ai adoré, bon à part que le nouveau détecteur fais beaucoup de bruit, il est assez puissant , belle pièce en argent 😉
Thank you for watching. It is powerful, probably a little bit more to bigger targets. Being able to find small silver coins with it was impressive. Have a nice evening.
It sounds like an annoyed guinea pig!! I laughed at 'one hour later' ground balancing.
:) Thank you. Have a great day.
Was thinking of getting one of these (not anymore) I know they are deep but they are bloody annoying with the sound, move your detector away when pinpointing less annoying then 😊 hats off to you for for the patients with it.. . Al
They are great at the beach don't give up
Sometimes a little cotton not much in your ears helps to tell the difference in signals
Hard to figure out something new... response...sound...action are not the same. Hmmm....
I don’t usually like to read manuals but rather learn by doing.
Does your PI machine tell you the depth of the item?
I always enjoy your videos ...in a couple of weeks I will be hunting again as we still have a lot of snow here in Eastern Ontario Canada.
Hello Gregory, I think, the audio of this new detector is modulated which should result in faint signals on deeper targets.
I wish you many sunny days. May the snow melt!
I hope it does not scare the assistants! The Trees were getting tickled by the pulses from the new machine. The pulse machines can go so deep in locating metals. I guess the tone or pitch of the machine tells the type of metal. I'm sure you and the assistants will master it in no time.
You already use the best machine on the market, everything else is going to be a disappointment. I felt your frustration! 😁
No he doesnt use an Equinox 800 THATS the best machine out!! But different tools for different jobs. A Pi has its place no doubt!!
Great detectors gallons. I've had two. Wish I'd kept them
Hey 👋 MD24
Hope ur arm and shoulder is good. 2 .5 kilo is a world compare to your deus. Nice job. Congrats on silver. Greetings from Germany 🇩🇪
Hello, it is very heavy, that's true (fortunately not front heavy, but still...). Thank you for watching. Have a great evening.
You gotta do the Union Jack method or the flower you sprog
Hi, heißes Gerät, obwohl der "Hüftschwung" beim Deus flotter aussieht. Trotzdem schöne Funde und danke fürs Mitnehmen. Hat Spaß gemacht.
Weiter so, morgen werden vielleicht schon die 50000 geknackt.
Vielen Dank. Das Gewicht ist schon gewöhnungsbedürftig. Man muss sich darauf einstellen und einen Vorteil erkennen, um Motivation zu finden...
Viele Grüße.
I have that warior.. Really god machine..
I’m not too sure about that macine😳 maybe it will get better👍 a couple of lovely coins and that beautiful button though so not a wasted day🤗😜 it looks quite heavy too😳 thanks again from Scotland 👍🙏
So after a year, how do you like this machine? Would you take it over an equinox 800?
I've been using a Vallon VMH3CS for 4 years now, but only for beachcombing. Inland, it will find anything from the size of half a paper staple. This MD has been designed to get the tiny springs and screws in plastic mines, so in a forest or a field it will get all the tiny crap of any metal. Do not use the vibration mode for it will suck the batteries faster. Do not use a pinpointer either, for the frequency interference will be a real pain.
Have you update the firmwares? Add filters and surf mode
Even though you found 2 ancient silver coins, your Deus is the king!! All those musket balls in one spot......I can only imagine that guy that melted, pressed those tools for bringing home dinner was really mad when he went to insert a musket ball and OOOPS they were all missing. Here you are, 2 centuries later stumbling upon them with no gun to load!!! HAHAHA!!
Hello Mr. Beepers. No dinner and no silver... He had huge holes in his pockets :).
I wish you a great day.
Any use in irony areas? That’s the bit I’m struggling with… 👍😍
What can you say for some thing made fore finding mines it didnt do a bad job you have to keep it away from the pinpointer they dont like one another i think you will master it in time
Have you tested its max depth. I'm looking for old military bunkers Thanks James
nice
Sehr geiles Video.weiter so Daumen hoch +abo
What a panzer ! )))))) With such detector you can not only detect !! In addition - build big biceps (but only on one hand), hammer a nails, slaught bulls and cows and record nice sound imitations of opened rusty doors for horror movies !
You need a shovel. That machine is a monster. The nox 800 is 2.5 lbs. screw that lol.
+1 gutes Video zu Besuch kommen
Hahah this kitty moves ;D
Nic job
By the way, what happened with yours deus?
I just purchased this Vallon VMR2 Mine Detecting. What’s y’all experiences w/one? Are the detectors worth a fck?
I think I would bring that nice shovel you have, when using the pi detector. Besides the fact jamming that knife in the ground is hard on your wrist. You'll pay for it when you're old.
Thank you for your concern. I wanted to save weight... But a shovel would be useful in this case.
Have a nice day.
Нормальный коп,Лайк и Подписка,удачи найти клад!!!
Thank you very much for watching. Have a nice evening.
👊🏻😊👍🏻
This detector is for gold nuggets at clean places, otherwise you'll get crazy of digging out all junks.
No discrimination mode available which is nasty , but at least it is good PI detector specially for militarization soils .
It is perfect for deserts (Arizona,Nevada) , beaches & places like Alaska where people have not polluted yet with iron stuff.
Still it performed pretty well.
I used them before and you did better than I of course I was in a war zone
montei um clone piw fico bom o seu e milita que bom muito bom obrigado por mostra nos esa maravilha
My detector whites GMT e series .. lovely
Soil needs to be introduced🙏☺️
pulse induction machines work well in iron mineral soils where vlf detectors are useless and can be used to find gold but generally don't have good discrimination .
Thank you, I hope to find the "right" area for this detector.
I miss that messed up water bottle of yours you get rid of it?
ebay has one with the broken armrest for $80 +shipping, what did you shell out? I didn't care for it's tones, pulse induction is supposed to be great for gold detection, so com'on lets go.
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I'm trying to use this same detector to find brass joints and wheels on drainage rods. I've mineralised it I think, but can't seem to find decent signals. The drains are around 18" down. Does anyone have any advice about whether or not I can achieve my aim?
in addition, I'm in North Staffordshire, on soil with a lot of clay and some grit stone I imagine.
How to activate the discriminator?
It's like you were detecting with a giant pinpointer good video tho'
I think the dues is much better
What's your favorite find ever?
Oui j’ai le vallon vmh3cs en induction pulser top
Vous en pensez quoi de ce détecteur ?
Someone used an tested vmh3cs would please tell me what is the maximum depth (or air test) of this device (with standard 30x17cm coil)? Not for gold nuggets or coins; I mean about big block of metal for example 10x10x10 square cm.
На RUclips есть много тестов этого детектора.
Meine erste Silbermünze lag direkt neben einer abziehlasche. Aber mir so einem Detektor zu laufen ist schon fast Folter :)
Stimmt, ich kann mir wirklich nicht vorstellen, wie man das Ding erfolgreich im Krieg einsetzen kann. Ich würde gerne einem Minensucher einen Tag lang über die Schulter schauen.
Hallo MD24. Den PI-Detektor habe ich auch schon wo gesehen. Der schaut irgendwie futuristisch aus 😜 Eine sehr gute Runde, für das dass er keinen Disc besitzt. Zwei kleine Silberlinge, unglaublich. Und das im selben Loch. Finde ich total gut. 😊 Aber auf Eisen verseuchten Boden gräbt man sich zum Idioten 😁 Hätte ich die Chance, würde ich aber auch zu so einem Produkt zuschlagen. Die Musketenkugeln finde ich auch sehr toll. Vllt passt das zeitlich zusammen? Diese Knaller im Himmel sind merkwürdig. Versuche von denen wir nichts wissen sollten? Wünsche dir Gut Fund für dein nächstes Abenteuer, LG
Lass dich nicht erwischen 😉👍👌✌️💚....
no more on ebay.
They were coming from Poland but all of them are sold out.
Guess how much cost brand new ? Only 4000k Euros ") lol haha kind of expensive
Parece que la velocidad de dispara del sonido es diferente con un metal ferroso de un no ferroso
Updated the firmware yet?
Cześć kolego 👍
Czesc :).
Cześć i co polecasz ten wykrywacz??
i could only imagine you wrapping the detector around a tree what a noise a few times out and you have it figured best of luck...
отличный прибор ,просто гудит на объём металла ,то что надо для проффессиональных копателей!! я такой прибор ищу и хочу купить потому ,что всё остальное с дискриминацией это второстепенные приборы просто для зачистки выброса грунта или выкопанной ямы!!!
Можете купить у меня. Я продаю.
Why is there so much iron everywhere?
Hola parece que la moneda vota otro sonido diferente del metal
Are you in an active war zone?? Sounded like bombs going off, big booms, perhaps that is why the mine detector. Did you notice the path going up the hill (sometimes you show preference to following trails but not this time).
You must have enough iron by now to make a car!
1773, nice ...
This detector is not for this kind of use , you can use it only for gold nuggets where the soul is not polluted or on the beach , otherwise in the parks you are going to dig like crazy.
There is no metal discrimination .
Pulse induction detectors are best for nuggets :)
I saw these on a surplus site a few days ago and almost bought one, glad I didn't. I'll stick with my Deus 😎
I'm glad if I could help ;). It's not a good idea to replace the Deus with this detector, but I still hope that it could have an advantage in highly mineralized areas. We will see...
MetalDetecting24 I totally agree, PI detectors certainly have their uses and are excellent in the right conditions. Have you done any depth comparisons compared to the deus in different soil conditions? PI's are good in sand/salty conditions so maybe have a go on a few beaches and recoup your money 💰
My main issue is the weight, I have torn rotator cuffs in both shoulders and quite often even my lightweight Deus/elliptical coil is too much pain to bare. If it gets any worse I'll have to consider giving up my 30+ year hobby 😭
GL&HH, look forward to your next video 👍
جهاز ممتاز جدا جدا
It was difficult to use, but interesting in the end. Thank you very much for watching.
@@MetalDetecting24 🤗
Another great detecting video. What the hell were the big booms in the background., Around 33 mins. Do you think the it will turn into a good investment?
Hello Robert, I'm not sure if it was a good investment... It depends on the right location (appropriate places where it could shine). I think, mineralized spots with a very low amount of iron could show a difference.
I have no idea what was going on in the sky at 33 min mark. I really thought rockets were shot and hit something in the sky. Maybe the Army was testing something... It scared me.
Eski dedektörü sevmiştik.. bu dedektörden hiç hoşlanmadik değiştir lütfen..
If u were spending £300 on one would u recommend one for me new to metal detecting ☆
Hello, I wouldn't recommend this machine to a beginner. It has no discrimination which means, that you would have to dig every signal (including iron). Unless you have (much) time, or clean areas to hunt, I don't think you would have fun with this detector.
It's a tool for special tasks in mineralized ground.
I would really look for something else...
Cheers!
@@MetalDetecting24 looking @ that Simplex
@@Will111ism Yes, or maybe one of the Minelab Vanquish models...
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Yup
You can download the manual free here, if you own this Detector it's a must > www.manualslib.com/download/1426451/Vallon-Vmh3cs.html