What is Kaleidescape? | End of blurays? | Future of home movie watching | How Does Kaleidescape Work
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
- Kaleidescape is a company that specializes in giving customers a better than physical disc movie experience. In this video I speak with the director of content operations at Kaleidescape to explain what makes their devices better than watching movies on 4k UHD disc. For more information on the company you can visit their website here www.kaleidesca...
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The price on these players are astronomical to say the least. I’m all for full uncompressed video and audio as well. But I’ll stick with physical media. They look and sound good enough. And don’t cost $12K!!
$12k? That's minimum. For a 48 TB storage unit that you'll likely need if you have/want a large movie collection, plan on spend ing $30k+ more, and then there's the movies which, for the most, part aren't cheap! Still, I prefer this over a fancy car.
That's true
You can’t get IMAX enhanced versions of marvel movies on Blu-ray though!
Not yet, but an insider told me that there is a strong possibility that studios will release SOME imax enhanced versions on disc in the next few months.
Agreed the price is stupid
For those who have a REALLY NICE home theater investment, and don't mind paying for the extras of a movie theater going experience...This is fine!
For myself, however, I prefer owning a copy I can enjoy any where, anytime, via, blu-ray...etc.
As a physical media collector, I’d still want a copy of certain movies on my shelf. Quiet as it’s kept, collecting physical media isn’t just about the video and audio quality.
Many of us like to display our media collections like novelty collector’s items (ala funko pops or something like that).
Very true. I do the same thing even though none of my friends or family buy physical media anymore 😁
Yeah. That said I'd be fine with it as long as I actually own the things, at least in practice. Meaning that if I buy a movie I don't have to ever buy it again or pay up some fee to watch it again even after how many years or if it's 76th time I watch it.
For the small price of $12,000, you too can have a slightly higher quality viewing experience that 99% of people wouldn’t even notice
😂😂😂
Small market niche. It will only succeed in those terms if it pays the large investments that this company probably have. I doubt it.
sign me up haha
The lowest entry point is more like $8k. It’s a luxury product for high end systems. Do you have similar disdain for high end cars and other items?
Things are only expensive if you can’t afford them. And Kaleidescape doesn’t make sense in every system.
@@jaremypyle6314 it's a lot of money for a tiny improvement is our point. High end cars go faster, more comfortable, better looking etc - endless array of benefits lol
From what I've heard there are no IMAX scenes on kaleidescape so it is not how the Director intended the movie to be shown and no Dolby Vision, And HDR 10+
I also heard as of right now the Kaleidoscape is only capable of passing HDR10 not Dolby Vision, so that right there calls it a day for me! If I'm droppin that kinda coin on a media server it better be the absolute best, have no issues, self calibrate and be able to play ever format of video and audio available to us!
@@downersup2 That is true it will not pass Dolby Vision, but most people that use this type of system use a projector I’d say about 99% of the people. And since no projector passes Dolby Vision they don’t seem to really care about it, and if I had only use projector I probably wouldn’t care either. But I use a TV that can display Dolby Vision so yes in that instance I would say it’s not for me.
This is interesting. I was not aware. I might reach back out and ask about this.
@@downersup2 So true. I would expect them to be on top of the latest stuff and have a top notch high quality player that never stutters, etc.. available sooner than the consumer market. For this kind of money.
Okay, good to know. Now it doesn't hurt that much knowing I will never have it.
Reminds me of when I bought into D-VHS to get the highest quality format available and the only player that could output high definition video, several years before Blu-ray/HD-DVD. The format was fine, I guess, but within a few years it died off and they never really had very many titles. Huge waste of money, especially after the companies just pulled the plug and left their customers with a dead, useless product.
I don't like paying monthly.
And I love to have my own collection of discs.
We taking about very expensive system
netflix very cheap
This is definitely not for everyone. That said I think if you got the money to blow on it, why not? Us peasants can enjoy our physical media 😂
And this things 6k
With Kaleidescape, you don't pay monthly. You pay and own everything up front. And I should mention that ever since I bought the system, I've only touched my very large disc collection maybe twice. It's incredibly expensive though......like buying a car.
@@LloydStewart333 do you pay extra for each movie?
I would love to see someone do a comparison (full specs) between the mezzo (SP?) version of each movie that Kaleidescape offers as well as the UHD disc. Star wars EP 4 4K HDR
71.5 GB vs 4K Disc (66GB disc) whereas all of the other studios seems to use the 100GB disc for their properties.
Seems nice, and I love the lights dimming aspect (if I were to ever have a home theatre one day), however if they are asking me to buy a physical box for it, I personally would rather stick to a 4K UHD player with my discs that have steelbook cases that I love to stare at ass I graciously put in my disc.
If you want automation there is always control4 and many other companies that provide those features.
It’s a Must Have, IF you have a video and audio system that is true hi fidelity. That means: large image > 100”, high quality optics, low distortion amp and speakers > $20k. For anything less, you will be happy with an Apple TV, as you won’t really notice a difference.
As someone who owns an Apple TV device, a 5.2.2 sound system, a dedicated 4k bluray player and a Sony Bravia TV, i can tell you there's a difference between Apple TV device and dedicated player, particularly the sound quality.
Can you put the discs you already own on Blu-ray, 3D, and 4K on the Kaleidescape, so you can select and watch them like a downloaded movie?
Although it would be cool to download a new movie in a higher format, I'm certainly not starting my collection over from scratch, re-buying the 1000s of movies I already have on disc from Kaleidescape.
Also, can you run multiple screens around the house all from one Kaleidescape, or do you need one for each screen? That's one thing I like about streaming, is I can access a large library from many different devices.
For that price I might as well keep buying bluerays and adding them to my kodi drive. And still have money leftover for a new Oled tv. But hey if money was no object maybe, just maybe I would consider it.
That's exactly what I've been trying to tell people. It's significantly cheaper to rip your own movies, store them on a server and stream through a pi.
I just saw a price of 25k at Best Buy. It’s nice but nothing justifies the price.
Love this brand. Maybe one day I’ll be able to afford it
This sounds like something I'll get in the future
I love physical media but seeing 50 boxes between games and movies is getting busy and getting more will just get overwhelming
Digital storage might solve this issue for me lol
Build your own server and rip your collection for a tenth the price.
A Plex Pass lifetime, a 48TB NAS server, & 4 Nvidia Shields still cost less than $3k and a VPN is $7 a month so you can download your heart’s desire.
Why would I ever spend $12k for a single device that didn’t worth the slight quality upgrade?
Plex it's a good system But you don't have access for the qualit File
Another problem with plex Is no so user friendly
I'll keep my separate server room and raspberry pi at each tv to stream. Tried plex but didn't like the mandatory web interface.
an oppo blu ray player with a physical media disk will look just as good if not better and cost less than a fraction of the price.
Is an incredible product and maybe a window to the future, but for now I'll keep my collection of Blu-rays. Something that digital format may never achieve is the feeling of holding a movie with your hands, but who knows...
It won't be the future because their hardware starting prices are too high. I can still snag $7-$15 4k discs at various times throughout the year. KScape files tend to be fairly high to purchase in comparison.
@@dan_hitchman007 wow, thank you for your point of view. I didn't thought of know that :)
Next they add smellavision for that fresh butter popcorn, candy, pretzel, soda, or nacho fragrance while the movie plays but you’ll have to pay an extra fee per movie for it.
Can I download this app on my Google tv
This sounds great, but all I know is that Stephen Spielberg stated that the latest 4k blu ray disc of Jaws viewed in the home on a good tv looks better than when it originally came out in theaters. He didn't say the disc was better than the original negative/print, but better than the reels sent out to movie theaters across the country.
I feel like you're looking for meaning that isn't there though.
When you download a kaleidescape movie what format is the file.
That’s a good question that I don’t have the answer too. I would assume it’s something that is exclusive to them.
@@MovieUniversity Thanks for the reply. I will stick with my Zidoo UHD3000 for the lounge room and my UB9000 with my NX7 for my cinema room. No quality loss at all. Sweet spot
It may not be through this company, but in the not too distant future this will be the standard for entertainment systems. Eventually, if Disney does end up buying all the other companies, they’ll release their own version of this and all entertainment will be created and consumed through it.
Have you heard of PLEX?
Is this something I would just hook up to my tv or would I have to set up a small theatre in my house to use this product?
KScape equipment outputs industry standard SDR or HDR10 video signals just like any Blu-ray or 4k Blu-ray disc. The audio files are the same as on a Blu-ray disc, though sometimes lacking the immersive audio track depending on studio licensing agreements.
It’s just HDMI. So would work with any display.
I d try it but not at 12k ... I m assuming after it's been out for some time the price will go dw just like anything else .
It's definitely intended for a particular market.
4K is good enough for me, this kaleidoscope system is crazy expensive. I can get a Zippitti player & 8 x 20TB drives and have over 3,000 movies or even the 4K Pro with 2 x 16TB drives and still have around 600 movies at my finger tips, and still have the option of switching the drives for more movies for a fraction of the price. I always have my Master 4K disc and usually the Blu-ray Disc as well, & digital version as well. It takes time to rip but it usually only takes about 40 mins to rip a 4K movie and is totally legal.
I play movies on a 25’ screen and I have no complaints about the video or audio being bad, still sounds better than any theater I have been in because my theater is setup for my seats, not a room 75’-125’ long, those theaters have a sweat spot which is 2/3rds the way back but still has it down side as they still have to fill the entire theater with sound.
I have around 100k in my theater and I love it, and that is the building in that cost as well, a 35’x60’ building, even has a concession area in the front that extends under part of the stair case seating and doors on the left side that enter into the theater room that does not let in light from the front. The small 2nd story room that is on top of the concession area houses the electronics and projectors, if I really wanted to I could set it up for public showings and upgrade it to the digital systems they use in the big theaters.
I live in a very small town and the only decent theater is 70+ miles away, and would cost me approximately150.00 to go watch 1 movie, and I live to watch movies is why I built this theater. I know most people cannot afford a private theater so I do let people watch movies in it, not a snob like I am sure some people with money would be. My only deal is, that everyone MUST be freshly showered, clean clothes, no kids jumping or running around, all drinks must have screw caps, and paper towels or wash cloths must be used to wipe hands before touching any controls. I have special shoe coverings for shoes (or must be used on feet with socks to make sure no fungus like athletes feet is deposited on my carpets, all this to help keep dirt, oil, and other contaminants off my carpets, it is kept very clean and smells like leather and fresh carpet, room it kept at 70 deg year round.
But even with all that, this kaleidoscope system is to costly as I do not buy digital content only as I got burned by Amazon Prime when someone hacked my account and I lost approximately 4K-5k in movies as they pulled my access to them, never to get access back, so 4K has to be good enough as I will not EVER trust digital content only again, if I cannot have a copy of the movie on physical media, then I guess I just don’t have the movie in my collection.
I would absolutely LOVE to see pictures or video of your theater!!!
$3000.00 to add 6TB of storage? Huh? I can pick up a 6TB drive for around $160. When I see that kind of markup it makes me wonder just how much the Strato actually costs to manufacture. It is only a media streaming device! Sorry, I like the whole idea behind giving customers a great video experience but you are catering to a somewhat niche market. Myself and I’m sure a lot of other people would gladly be on board if the hardware were reasonably priced!
Here’s a thought.... sell the players for a quarter of what you are charging and get 4 customers instead of 1. Four new customers will buy 4 times the movies than will 1 ;-)
Rip your own movies, set up a raspberry pi with kodi and enjoy the exact same experience.
Beautiful system. Love the idea. Hopefully if Kaleidescape goes belly up, that doesn't create an issue with your existing system and collection of movies.
They almost did.
They almost went belly up in 2016 due to litigation from movie studios. Since they don’t really do discs anymore, the lawsuits are a thing of the past! They should last a while or until people quit caring about quality in their home theaters.
@@TheFuzzyman44 Kaleidescape did go belly up for a few months. Rumor has it JJ Adams got the movie studios to back off, and sympathetic private equity investors got them going again. And they are still going.
"as the director intended" does that mean Nolan movies like Dark Knight is presented in IMAX 1.43:1 Aspect ratio?
Great question. Reach out to their customer service and let me know.
No matter what downloadable device there is I will stick to physical dvd's & blu ray disc thank you! 🙏✌❤
The TIDAL of movie streaming 😁😂
More like the Roon of movie streaming
yea but you don't have to drop $18k on a physical media system to enjoy Tidal! Just a nice DAC, the rest of the accompanying 2 chan stereo gear or headphones, cell, phone....etc
Does it get new releases?
I’m not sure. You’d have to reach out to them.
“Not for everyone” is right on the money.
This sounds like the definitive way we'll be enjoying movies for decades to come, but it's biggest downsides is it's cost is EXTREMELY unfriendly to consumers, people barely have enough money to scrape by let alone have anything over $2,000 like this.
This is also another case of the purchase not truly being owned by the customer, as it'll only be able to operate with Kaleidoscape which defeats it's purpose of bridging the gap and I don't see any of these studios willing to allow that full ownership in the digital age like you would with physical.
I want to embrace and love this, but it already has holes that can make or break depending on the person.
Agreed!
How about usage in europe?
Check out Kaleidescape's website to see if they offer the service in Europe.
Nvidia Pro + NAS + PLEX playing a 1:1 copy of your 4K media does the same, for the same quality and it cost 1% of this system.
Why do movie creators make content if 99% people can't have the immersive experience of 8k av unless they invest in a product like kldscape?
I don't know anyone who owns more movies than I do and I own nearly 5000, I have zero desire for physical media and now at least 2000 movies I own on streaming services. People don't understand that it's an overwhelming task to find, store, or otherwise manage that much physical media. When you have that many titles, it's literally impossible and quite frankly, annoying. Add to that children, add to that your children giving movies to their friends or your so called friends mysteriously putting discs in their backpack and damage.
However, I have 2.5G internet and I have zero desire to set up and manage another NAS to store purchased content locally. I have children and I have grandchildren so I also need to have movies stored on everything from a phone or tablet. I don't have a problem purchasing another streaming device, but from what I read, you're required to download and store your purchased movies locally. This may have made sense back in the era of DSL. Alternatively some mega yacht, a wide-bodied private commercial jet or an exotic island in the middle of nowhere.
BTW, if my memory serves correct, they're compressing these files down 4 to 1 ratio compared to theatrical versions.
What do you mean by compressing in your last sentence?
@@MovieUniversity .. Theatrical movie files are at least 3X-4X the size quoted here and the sampling bit rate in a theatrical file is over 250-320Mbps. The files Kaleidescape provides are even smaller than a 4K Blu-ray which is 128 Mbps. Quote "Kaleidescape's 4K movies are encoded at an average of 65 megabits per second." LOL Apple 4K is 30-40Mbps.
I'm sure it's fantastic but it's not for me because I am not wealthy and never will be.
How much does a movie cost?
I can't remember but for some reason $40 sticks out to me. But you'd be better off asking the company directly.
Kaledescape still has one problem. It's a digital copy so when studios don't want to do bussiness anymore your screwed. 24tb is not that much when you talk about this level of quality movie.
Interesting. Probably still a premium product considering the cost and requirements (essentially a home box office setup to take full advantage of the features). Wouldn't mind if I could afford it though haha.
Same!
It's only somewhat better or about the same as a Blu-ray or 4k Blu-ray disc. The video output for KScape is still at the same consumer grade level. You're just paying a hefty extra free to store them all digitally.
@@dan_hitchman007 That is not a correct statement.
@@jr62inhometheater98 What am I saying that's not correct? The files are about the same or slightly better in terms of video bitrates than an HD or 4k disc with the same lossless audio tracks the studio places on Blu-ray discs and the same studio sourced mezzanine files for HEVC data compression (sans any Dolby Vision data - KScape only does HDR10 for 4k titles the last I knew). Sometimes, KScape does not get the immersive Dolby Atmos or DTS:X tracks from the studios and may or may not update their files later.
Their proprietary closed loop, at-home server hardware prices are extremely expensive compared to a home DIY NAS server.
These are facts even though KScape sometimes BS's about their capabilities compared to disc.
Does Kaliedescape allow you to import movies into their system?
I'm not sure. Your best bet is to go to their website and email their customer service reps.
@@MovieUniversity I did. It doesn't.
I thought so, but I didn't want to speak on their behalf. That makes sense to me that they wouldn't based on the need to "close the loop" with the movie studios per the agreements they have with them. One of the drawbacks to Kaleidescape.
There are ways to disc 2 digital existing DVDs and BDs a really low prices. A dealer could help you with this.
They did in the beginning but they nixed that feature and it went away. Early adopters were lucky to get the devises but I do not know if they still have the option to add their own media or if the recording option was turned off in an update.
I do not do any streaming at all and I am not gonna pay for the internet as its way to expensive so I am a person that still buys movies on disk because they sound better and the picture quality is more affectionate and also have the full sound effect and once you have the movie on disk its yours and don't have to worry about any interruptions when streaming a movie for an example say your internet is down and not working how do you stream a movie when you can purchase a dvd and still continue watching movies on a dvd disk so I can still enjoy watching movies without streaming any
Now, this is how I WOULD replace discs with digital downloads. Not that streaming compression shite. Only if this was ever available where I am and at an affordable price, meaning not much more expensive than UHD disc players and discs. Starting from $5k isn't exactly that. Edit: Oh, that $5k was the player only. The $6k Strato S apparently is the bare minimum you'll need to get going and 6TB isn't very much space at all.
💯💯💯
My ripped media + raspberry pi + kodi does the same thing...And the pi only runs me ~$100
Is the picture quality better than a 4k Disc? if so, is it worth the extra $5k plus for a better. picture?
It's definitely better quality unfortunately is expensive
And another problem you don't have everything what you wanted
Are you really like old system when I can rip my Blu-Ray And storage and the hard drive
I’ve read multiple comments here and elsewhere that it is better than a 4K disc. While disc is better than streaming you’re limited to the size of the disc. No such limitation with kaleidoscape. Expensive, yes, but if you got that kind of money to blow that money isn’t really an issue.
@@MovieUniversity Please don't be too picky About quality
Yes is better like Blu-Ray but you need really good projector or Huge TV If you want to see the difference If you want to see the difference
@@czependoza You think I. will notice it with a Sony 295ES Projector?
Kaleidescape content encodings and bit rates often exceed disc. Avengers Endgame was on a BD66 disc but is a 100+ GB download from Kaleidescape. Whether you can resolve that extra quality depends on your system. As this is a luxury product, it’s most often used in good quality dedicated spaces.
Which format should I see Godzilla vs Kong ?
4K Blu-ray Disc unless you’ve got Kaleidescape money
we all now that 4k ultra HD Is the best with dolby atmos or dst
For that price, I’ll continue to buy discs.
Physical disk is still the best
For some, yes. I’m over physical media. I haven’t bought a physical game since the Xbox 360 generation. My physical movies and such are all gone. I read my comic all digital. And so on. Life it much simpler with less stuff.
as home theater setups continue to improve how does this product/service plan to remain relevant? i can see this being a huge deal before Netflix took over streaming along with the dozen other streaming services. i dont understand how they justify their price either, its pretty much a glorified roku. ooOooOoo it dims the light- so does alexa....
storage is only getting cheaper. seems more money could be made by lowering the price.. wont be long before a terabyte can be had for 20 bucks anyway.. make the darn thing accessible to the masses.
I agree with you on all points.
Yeah I'll keep buying disks these boxes are over priced.
I feel like such a noob watching these videos while I'm streaming 4k stuff from Netflix thinking it looks amazing on my non-OLED TV snd 2.1 channel soundbar.
I feel like a caveman watching a Type-3 civilization building dyson spheres and bending the fabric of space-time while I'm rubbing two sticks together to try to make fire.
This has got to be one of the nerdiest comments on my channel in a while 😂😂
I like your comment,don't worry a lot of people are in this situation ,nothing wrong with a non oled tv and a 2.1 soundbar.Enjoy your setup,even a smaller one.
Fu** that I'm not paying over 12k for that. I'll stick with my Panasonic 9000 with my 4K physical disc
RIGHT!!!
Kaleidescape is dead, not the future for from it. Only good for rich lazy people. Im not disputing the quality, but value for money it just doesn't represent the huge outlay.
Sadly all this High Quality picture and sound has made Going to the Movie Theater a lesser quality experience,even my home system I find that 3D movies are much better brighter and sharper than when I saw the last Bond film in 4DX the other day at a $20.00 price.
No mention of the Price? C'mon man, all that good info and you disregard the most important consumer detail.
Go watch the 2022 video or Google yourself.
Hmmmm
This seems interesting I must watch it now then I will comment.
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blurays are still around nothing can ever replace physical media I love it to death
If it is a full uncompressed file, you are looking at 50-70 GBs per movie maybe more. If your internet speeds are slow, good luck downloading that. This might be in of the downsides.
The 2022 Batman movie is 96 Gbs
What would happen to purchased movies if Kaleidescape ever goes bankrupt?
Bye bye movies and investment
What would happen to your iPhone if Apple went bankrupt? What happens to your car when Ford (or whoever) goes bankrupt? Kaleidescape just celebrated their 20th anniversary.
@@jaremypyle6314 I don’t think that’s a very good comparison. For one Apple and Ford are mainstream, many many people have one or the other. As for the Kaleidoscape , it’s only going to be found in a very select group of consumers. That being said for them to survive they have to depend on that very same . Only time will tell if they survive.
One born every minute...
noooo I love physical media
Exelent reflexion. Physical media is us! Its what they are trying to eliminate.
How is this “the future of home movie watching” when it’s more than a premium to buy?
Well , good question. Says alot about the future doesnt it?
Do a scientific AB comparison between Kaleidescape and a 4K blu-ray and see if anyone in your audience notices a difference.
If I had the money I would! But I'll bet money even the average viewer could tell a difference without being able to put their finger on it. For the same reason that you can tell a difference in quality between a Sony Bravia or a Hisense TV. Both could be 4k, HDR etc, but even with covering up the logos, I'd bet money most people would point to the Sony TV as looking better even if the specs were similar or the same.
Bruh my whole set up is like $35k and this thing costs $12k. I’m happy with $30 blu ray 4k
haha, so true
@@MovieUniversity exactly
I bought a Lawrence of Arabia UHD bluray from Amazon for $40 . I ripped it to my Movie server it was around 119 GB very good quality ATmos HDR 10 . My movie server only cost about $ 500. For this cost this is BS. They got high capacity bluray Disc now over 200 GB or maybe more. Too expensive , not practical . Physical media is still the best and way much cheaper .
Actually, no, Kaleidescape is only slightly better or exactly the same as the disc version. It uses the same studio mezzanine file used to create the CONSUMER disc master (or the files wouldn't be compatible with standard consumer grade video and audio equipment). Sometimes, a studio will not license the Dolby Atmos or DTS: X track or delays it to KScape, but will include it on the 4k disc. KScape also does not include Dolby Vision (12 bit or 10 bit variances) whereas a 4k disc can. If they go out of business (as they almost did in the past), your expensive hardware and collection start to become obsolete. I guess if you're rich, you wouldn't care and just reconstitute your collection elsewhere. Most people aren't rich.
The primary DTS or Dolby encoded audio tracks are the EXACT SAME consumer grade lossless files that are included on Blu-ray disc sans immersive audio, as I mentioned above, on various occasions. You are not gaining any benefit from a KScape file in this instance. There is nothing magically special about the audio provided by KScape.
Kaleidescape is nice but it is for upper class nice to have but it is not Reality l hope it will be affordable down the Pike the cost of those box are nice but out to lunch they need a better price point for real people and family’s but it will take time if they will do it I wood buy it .
why can't I just load my BLURAY files into the unit?
Redicilously priced Only for the rich few of us. It must be possible to make this for 10% of the price. This is not for people with a 'normal' salary.
If money were no object, I’d have one in addition to a physical media collection. Best of both worlds.
It's not 4k 120. That's what holds me back from purchase.
Digital downloads is a non-starter for me. If Kaleidescape built a Premiere+ system that could import 4K content from discs stored in a disc vault then I'm all in for that. Yeah, the hardware is expensive, but the experience of the Kaleidescape system can't be beaten and I think is worth the investment.
Thats how actually they started, as a way for the user to save and archive his DVDs
Wow, that's expensive! Even with folks with the means, it's cost-prohibitive.
This would be a great investment assuming the company will never go under, losing your entire collection in the process
that's a good point. i had not considered that before
This is a phone app now..
If you have an android compatible OS to run the app.. no need to buy the streaming hardware.
The commoners now have it as good..
Hahahaha. Not even remotely close.
What do I think? I think it’s really cool except no one but the super rich can afford them.
Cut the price in half then offer all movies for free, and they may have a winner.
Corporate greed and stock holders would never allow it.
Bloody expensive is what it is 🤣
Think I'll stick with my plex server and its blu-ray rips
Keleidescape is great.....for rich minimalists who may have a lot of money, but still don't like the clutter.
Its genius, but if it's TRUE that its 12,000.....not happening.why not created a rental process like Dish....this would bring it into the mainstream
It would be nice if the movie were actually mastered for home cinema...
They are. This is not a DCP file rental company, which is only offered to those 1 percenters with a licensed screening room with commercial cinema gear. They are the same or slightly better than what you get on a Blu-ray disc.
@@dan_hitchman007 so are they mastered for home cinema or not? I'm not just talking bigger files, had the sound been mixed for cinema rather than sound bars?
Cut the price by 50% and many would jump on board, and would be the death of 4K discs.
The only way I would consider paying that is if all the movies were free downloads.
…and even then.
4K is such overkill for the home that the difference in image between 4k streaming and the physical media is small. As bitrate increases the audio will also become indistinguishable making the Kaleidescape obsolete.
I have to disagree. I can clearly see the difference in image quality between streaming and 4k discs, hell even any old BD.
Yea there is no way this is gonna end physical media
Meh...i can get the same thing with my Zidoo...with much much cheaper price...
I feel like this company is missing out hugely on a good opportunity to corner the movie market. I mean, literally charging people a $12k up front cost for the privilege to buy bluerays from them. There are millions of people still willing to buy physical media fo the quality of it and I'm willing to bet they woukd buy this system and their movies if this was at a more reasonable price point. It just doesn't make sence.
I’d rather just buy a $15 movie ticket or stick with streaming. I can think of better things to spend $10k on.
U didn't really explain the costs involved, explained the cost of the hardware barely what about ongoing costs, what about recent movie releases. What was the point of this video? That's what people want to know about. He wasted a ton of money producing this video And didn't really answer the questions people really wanna know
What a stupid comment. I’m not a salesperson for the company. If you want to know everything then go and look up all your questions on the company website.
@@MovieUniversity not really clear there either, if your salesman you should be able to answer the questions. It seems as though I have to pay $20-$40 for a recent movie then why the hell would I wanna do that? I might as well by the Blu-ray disc. It's just not worth it. You need to find a way to stream the videos higher quality vs Netflix or Amazon then you would have something meaningful value. Since very wasteful product. No questions are stupid in this world
Yes, contrary to what your grade school teachers and a coddling society has told you, there are indeed stupid questions. If you have a grievance with the product, take it up with the company.
This is bullshit. Because the audio quality is indistinguishable. In streaming movies the audio is not compressed to the point where you can tell inferiority of the quality. It's a high quality experience as long as you have a decent internet.
I want 1. If you could pay it off like a car bruh I'm totally for it.
So it’s another way for those willing to take the plunge to show off their spending ability whether it’s practical or not.
I’m sure that they will be on social media as soon as it’s up and running in their theater bragging about what a “beast” it is.
Love the concept though. I dove in head first with my music collection when windows media player was introduced but it was free and Bill Gates and all his pals are still billionaires.🧐
'Cept for answering questions and explaining the system, almost no one knows that someone owns the system. So I'd hardly put it in the "conspicuous consumption" category. Of course, there's always a few.
Man this thing sounds so cool. Too bad it's so dam expensive. That fact kind of defeets this video. Because for it to defete Blu-Ray avrage person would have to have 1. That aside there's also the fact people just like easy. I care and I would want 1 but most people meh they just want to watch the movie. Again avrage american. Avrage American that isn't a home theater geek.
$6000 if you have a massive home theater maybe for anybody else to expense
Way to expensive! I mean almost 13 grand for a 24TB movie server, and I don't care what the competitors in that same market charge, no middle-class family will be able to afford that. Not the cheapest server for five grand!
To be fair to the company they're really not targeting middle class families. I think the price point of their products shows that. You're also getting a much higher quality products (video and sound) than you are with a 4k bluray.
But I hear ya man, it does cost A LOT.
@@MovieUniversityThey're selling a proprietary compression algorithm for a premium price. I'm a home theater fanatic and I want to have one place where I can store all of my movies streamed to me intact with no limitations. Not only that, not included in the price, is their movies that can only be played on there device, crazy greed. It might take more work but it's a lot cheaper to buy the Dune and just rip my movies to HDD and enjoy their software that provides organization and movie information. Thanks but no thanks! They won't last long and they be blown out the water by a competitor, and prices will plummet. Just wait and watch and see.
Kaleidescape is not worth to buy....just get Blu Ray Player and just buy physical disc is good enough...Why must pay $11.000/- for that stupid Kaleidescape....It is Marketing ... nothing more than that.
WAY to expencive.
Sure if I was a millionare I would not mind, but for most mortal people it is just to expencive. I would rather invest the 12k into sound system or screen, and stay with the 4k blu-ray
It's a rip off