You can slowly create a movie theater over the time that it takes to build one... you just need to have patience and be happy with what you can get slowly.
I reckon the most truthful answer to why most people do not have a home cinema, it’s simple, they can’t be bothered putting in the effort as they feel it’s not worth having one for the amount of time they would use it.
Excellent information as usual. In several ways a small room can be better for a home theater because it will be easier and cheaper to cover windows and walls in order to dampen reflected light and sound, and since you're likely going to end up sitting closer to the screen, a given screen size will give you a wider angle of view. For reference, with a 16:9 screen, the height is 0.49 times the diagonal and the width 0.87 times the diagonal. So a 100-inch screen (not counting any border) has dimensions of about 87 by 49 inches. A 120-inch screen is about 105 x 51 inches. The horizontal angle of view depends on the screen size and the eyeball-to-screen distance. For casual viewing many people are content with an angle of 30 degrees or even less. SMPTE and THX lean more toward 40 degrees for movie watching. Of course, for the even wider angle you prefer, you could go as high as 50 degrees. Here is the ratio of screen distance to screen diagonal for each of these: 30 degrees: distance 1.63 x screen diagonal (casual viewing) 40 degrees: distance 1.20 x screen diagonal (conventional home theater recommendation) 50 degrees: distance 0.93 x screen diagonal (sort of home IMAX) Note that for 40 degrees this works out to almost exactly one foot of viewing distance for each 10 inches of screen size, which means watching a 100-inch screen from 10 feet away or a 120-inch scree from 12 feet away. I personally think 50 degrees is a bit too much, so I hereby propose a new, slightly reduced standard: a 47-degree horizontal field of view, which conveniently gives a viewing distance almost exactly equal to the screen diagonal. For a 120-inch (10-foot) screen, this would mean sitting 120 inches (10 feet) away. I further propose calling this the Majestic View. How about that?
My room is 11x12 and it rocks! On your recommendation I painted all walls including ceiling pencil point gray. No light reflection at all. 7.2 all klipsch all around. Calibrated with a sound meter and it sounds great. TV is 65" 4k but want to go to a 75". And it only sits 2 people. Got nice home theater seats though. Onkyo tx rz820 reciever. Carpet. Absorption panels and diffusers in strategic places.. very happy.. buy of course I want more!
I built my whole channel off having a small sized room for my home theater. Seated position should be your first consideration as everything stems from that, including screen size - I learned that the hard way when I first started. Nicely done - awesome you can help your family and friends to build rooms.
A fully dedicated home theater room is not an option for me. I always find it funny that a small room in the US is still a whole lot bigger than a small room in my country (The Netherlands). It's a legitimate reason for many people living here since most places simply are too small to have dedicated home theaters. Although mine is even smaller than that. It's one of the reasons why it took me so long to purchase a 4k TV of a relative big size (55 inch). I had to put in some work to make that happen. In hindsight I could have gone bigger because you get used to it real fast. So after a while I did decide to do so. I opted for a projector and a hanging screen (retractable / 100 inch 16:9) since that is the most practical for me. That way I can pull down the screen when I want to watch a film that warrants use of projector (BenQ TK700STi gaming beamer) without having to adjust already existing setup. I think I am very lucky that the distance is just right. Had my living room been smaller I would be too close to the screen and then I don't think it would be much fun. Gaming on this projector certainly is a little overwhelming. Perfect for horror games to intensify the experience but I prefer the TV for more action orientated games. I do want to add while I understand that you are trying to say that basically anyone can have a home theater of some sorts I do think that most people don't really want one. For film fans like me it's a no brainer. But for casual viewers a TV usually is enough.
Haha, YES!! I've been telling Friends and family this for YEARS now! Finally a video from someone that explains that clearly you can fit a projector in a LOT smaller spaces than you thought you could! I love how you said something to the tone of "....the end up going with a larger screen size and sit closer to the screen..." lol. Another great video! Keep it up!!!
Hi... Very motivating video... Initially I planned to use my living room into multipurpose room. My room dimensions are 16X24. I made arrangements for 7.1.2 setup and a projector mount at 10.5 feet from the screen. But lately I noticed it is not convenient to use speakers in living room as the sound is little irritating to my family members in other rooms. So now I decided to have a dedicated movie room, which is one of my bedroom. Dimensions are 14x 17. But my seating will be appx 12 feet from the screen. So i felt ur video is very useful for me. I have denon 3800h and Polk signature series with 2 Atmos speakers.
I think it's nice that ppl have theaters of any size. BUT, there is a LOT more acoustic problems with a small room vs a large one. The sound will usually be a lot better with a big room. As long as one acknowledges that - run with what you have.
Awesome, Just installed a 75in so glad that I didn't go any bigger. The 7-10ft range fits perfectly to my living room. Got a Sony Bravia. Now working on my 5.2.2 theater system and the hyperion light setup
"Center channel speaker placement isn't as important" - Actually it is the single most important speaker, and placement is utterly important, but more and more difficult as screen size increases. A 65" screen and no issues (keep the center speaker as close as possible to the bottom of the screen). With an 85" screen you are already negatively affecting the Frontal Stage (on screen action). At 100" and above it's a total mess and hence people tend to want perforated screens with speakers placed behind the screen, however your Sound quality will go down even when using the very Best perforated screens out there..., plus some form of equalization is a must in order to help compensate for those screen losses, especially in the upper frequencies (say above 5khz). Although I suppose that all of my above comments assumes that one places the Audio at or above the importance of the Video, for which it's obvious that I most definitely do (not all folks do). So for all you Audio first folks, you may want to consider my above comments... and to Learn as much as you can on the topic before going with a screen size that ends up lowering your overall sound quality (for Movies AND Music).
Excellent comment!!! two other things are like the point out when building a home theatre in a small room, if possible try to go with standmount bookshelves as opposed to towers, I found towers were way too boomy for my small environment! secondly one should go for two smaller subs as opposed to one Big sub (consistent low frequency effects throughout the whole room) btw you obviously know what you're talking about click on the red dragon hit the... 'REL and Q Acoustics' video and I'd be happy to hear from you if you think I've done anything wrong? Criticism welcomed! 😟
@@Antibackgroundnoise Well Thank you. I hope it helps some folks. I so LOVE this hobby! Agree, one ought to verify IF bass notes played from the location of their main speakers (+ seating position) in their given room will work or not. For often main speakers placed for Best imaging and sound staging will (as TP notes) sound terrible below 80 (or 60) hz, and therefore one is much better off with big powerful bookshelf speakers (often a single 6.5 driver won't cut it... unless playback Volume is kept medium-ish or the room is small / seating is close to the speakers), or a small tower speaker which can easily handle > 50 hz... and then employ Multi-Sub (two minimum and three ideally). Oh sure, I'll take a look... besides with both REL and Q Acoustics how can I not... two Brands that make really good stuff!
I haven't built my HT yet, but experimentation has shown me that it's hard to get optimal sound in a small room for any seat but the one in front row center. Every seat off center is going to be closer to the speakers on one side wall than to the speakers on the other side wall (also applies to front L & R speakers). The view of the screen will also be distorted at any seat off center. For these reasons, I think HT would be disappointing for any seat off center, and terrible if the distance that it is off center is a significant fraction (20% ?) of the width of the room (and screen). For these reasons, I would think you would want a room 20' wide for a 3-seat or 4-seat couch. I notice though, most HT rooms are narrow & deep. I think it would make more sense to put the screen in the middle of the wide wall (unless your room is then not deep enough for another row of seats, if you need it).
We built a 22’x23’ media room which is obviously large enough. I went with an 83” OLED. But it’s my basement I’d like to put a projector in. That’s very small, maybe 7’ ceiling, 10’ wide, 20’ long.
We recently built our new small acoustically treated home theater in a 5.1.2 configuration and having room dimensions of 16x12x9 feet (about 1700cuft). AVR - Denon AVR-X2700H Speakers - KEF T205 package (On Wall) and Ci160er pair as heights Subwoofer - SVS PB1000 Pro Projector - Optoma UHD-30
This video has me thinking about putting my Yamaha RXV1 in the living room. I have always been concerned about space. Your videos are great, keep ‘em coming Chris!
The beauty of a home theatre is the fact it can be personalized. Speakers can be directed or be indirect. You can have as many channels as you like. You can balance viewing distance with speaker layout and so on. Some people like dynamic smooth image while others like to try and emulate the film look.
You know what....I built my HT breaking all of the rules and making it work. My HT is a 11 1/2 FT X 18 FT room with 6'9 ceiling height. I am using a long throw onto a 120 inch screen and reference surround system. I even have three theater recliner seats on riser.
I thought that my (bed 2,5m x 5m x 2,5m) room also would be to small to I started with 5 satellite speakers and a small sub..... Now I have a 7.1.2 setup with huge speakers and bought a couch. Every time I wanna sit down a by my desk I have to move the sub😂
I saw one pro installer put a ultra short throw projector upside down on the ceiling, making the in-wall install much simpler in an existing room, and making the look and center speaker situation much cleaner.
One trick instead of buying floor standers is to buy higher end book shelf or on walls with a good sub. In walls or on walls in a small room will give better cohesion than a floorstander as often the lower frequency drivers are hitting the couch or other furniture, therefore not getting the full capabilities of the floorstander.
Most people think their room is too small because they want to have the biggest screen and a very large screen is not always the right fit for every room.
I mean, my room is 7.25 foot high x 10.4 foot facing one way x 6.9 foot facing the other way. And I have a bed, a chest of drawers, a seat and a desk/table in the room. So It’s definitely too small for a proper home theatre set up. Best I can do is a soundbar and a 50” 4K TV, that just about fits, considering it’s on the side with the door. The TV and soundbar aren’t wall mounted though. I prefer they not be.
@@ChrisMajestic I currently have the Optoma GT 5600 and a CLR screen with a .6 gain and I'm been feeling like it's really dim especially in dark scenes. Is this common for all projectors or is the DLP bulb holding it back? Been thinking about going with an Epson LS300 or LS500, but can't decide if it's going to make much of a difference and I should just switch to an 85 inch TV instead.
@@ChrisMajestic hey Chris, I love your content. I picked up the Vava 4K after your review. I know you said you weren’t too impressed with the HDR on it and the blacks but I got it on sale for $2200 at Best Buy. I love it. My question to you was about SVS subs. I recently purchased the PC200 and the entire SVS ULTRA home theater system with the towers. My question was do you think the sub will give me enough base?I solely plan on using it for movies. I was thinking of returning it and buying 2 PB1000s or if I can get a deal, 2PB2000 pros or just one PB3000. Wanted to get your opinion. Thanks man!
Great video and explanation as always! I agree - bigger screen is better than not big enough - as long as I'm not having to move my head around to see everything on the screen.
my home is an open concept so my home theater is huge and my components reflect that.i built a dedicated 15'x15' music room above my workshop just for music. cerwin vega at 12's, paradigm subs and infinity bookshelfs and a center channel.i also added a 60" oled 4k tv just in case.it keeps the wife from complaining about the "eccessive bass"
Dude i have the ultimate build for a budget build. I have a Denon Avr 3801 & Avr 3802 & avr 3803 - cost £300 Each amp is 7.1 but the 3803 is 7.2. I have each amp doing multi zone all in one room with Bose 301 Speaker x 9 and Two set floor bose speakers which are quads with 3 subs which are JBL Active as well a some sony high end book shelf speakers handling the mid part of the room and two centre speakers from bowers Sounds amazing with no distortion total cost £800
For small rooms above 82" latest TVs are best. These have best picture as compared to Projector. Some time you need full light in room, TV will work for that.
I just bought a new projector, a 1080p to replace my 720p projector. The screensize at the same distance was a bit smaller. The old projector was in front of me and I lost a lot of space where otherwise I would be sitting. Now the new projector is behind me, I could bring my sofa a bit further to the front and now the picture is perfect to me, no clutter in front of me and a joy to watch my movies. By the way I alway watch outside on my veranda where I had a wall prepared for my movies. I can sit there nearly all nights of the year, as I live in a warm country.
Exactly. Aren't there on the market smaller speakers but with enough power? Can you imagine watching films in IMAX or any other cinema with bunch of gigantic speakers all over the place. Nope, they are visible but hardly noticeable and look quite smaller than those in your vid. Often people install huge speakers that draw attention more than the screen itself. That's not the idea of cinema! Big screens....always! Anyway, I like your videos! Cheers!
My theater is roughly 9x12.5 feet Had a 100 inch with the budget projector but upgraded to 4k and can only manage 80 inch now... With the 500 Watt logitech 5.1 system and some flat maroon paint you don't know where you are when the movie starts 🤘
I installed the hitachi CP-X4021N projector which is a projector typically installed in lecture halls and larger classrooms. It is installed in a room where it is about 8-9 feet from the screen and it produces a very large projected image.
Some people may only have a living room that is quite small but they can still have a good sounding system. There is a lot of audiophile nonsense as well about what gear should and should not be used. People need to hear it for them self.
I've got mine set up in my bedroom, screen is against the wall and projector is against the other. 100 inch screen with a vankyo 1080p projector ( forgot the exact model) hooked up to a kenwood VR-615 amplifier with 5.1 surround sound. Took me a year and a half to get all the stuff together and make this set up.
Forgot to mention dark walls for projection, toeing in speakers, subs should be further than each other than a media cabinet length like on the pictures you showed, they are very collocated. For sound absorption proper panels and not that foam stuff you find on amazon. Audioholics has some great videos with Anthony Grimani that will go through how to set up a room properly if people don't want to read a few hundred pages.
Nice video, but I wish it would have been longer and more detailed. You could have talked about surround channels some more, ATMOS speakers (in-ceiling vs speaker-mounted) and ceiling height issues.
Would you consider making a video on Media Room seating options? I am currently building my home, and I'll have a 13.5 ft wide by 17.5 ft deep Media Room, and Ideally would love to have at least 2 rows of seats. Please consider making a video touching on the factors to consider when setting up a room, and why not, if you have examples to share, even better. As usual, great video :-)
this is almost identical to my media room setup (14 wide x18 deep) and I have a row of 4 media chairs, my original plan was to place 2 pairs of 2 seat sets on either end of the doorway on risers (my doorway is at the "back" of the room's 18 foot length in the center). and leave enough room for someone to be able to walk between those seats and my first row when not fully reclined. I've switched to now planning to do a row of 4 media seats that I have and adding a bar behind those seats for an additional 4 people. leaves me more space overall and I like the idea of having a comfortable place to sit and eat for informal watching without the need for a tray that fits into a cup holder and other not as ideal alternatives. otherwise i'd also consider a u shaped setup utilizing the rooms width that could sit 6-8 people and maxing out the throw distance with the 14ft depth. the advantage of that configuration to me is it's a much more intimate seating arrangement and doesn't give the room a singular use feel/layout everyone can interact comfortably and you could still easily fit a large screen and have adequate distance from the "money" seats, but there would be some compromise for those that would likely be too close on the ends.
I have a budget 1080p projector with computer speakers and subwoofer in my tiny bedroom projected on a wall from about 8ft throw distance it works well
I went with 4K OLED instead of a 8K projector. For you sound it was the Sony HT-Z9F sound bar and the rear speaker set addition for true 5.1. The major advantage is that bar allowed me to adjust the sound level of each speaker individually. And by george IT WORKED! My room is VERY small though and my parents would NEVED allow a wall mount projector. As it is I had to get 3M wall stickers to stick my 2 rears to my walls (I learned from my previous system poster tack was not the way to go...)
Great video! I got the idea to get a projector from TikTok but got really into projectors after finding your channel! It’s definitely true that you can have a cool setup in a small room. I setup my projector in my bedroom with the logitech z906 5.1 system and watching movies is a lot of fun ☺️ everything I use and how I use it may not be ideal but it works all the same and I enjoy it! 🙏🏾
Consider the size of your room and will you use a home theatre enough to justify the cost. There is so much information this video I was overwhelmed with the details.
For me it’s not so much having a small room, it’s because I’m on the top floor of a small apartment building in a quiet neighborhood so I’m kinda scared about spending $4000 on a Klipsch home theater system
My excuse- the TV stand i have doesnt have enough room for the centre channel speaker, and im too incompetent to try and mount an 85" TV to the wall to make extra room.
What do you do for sound quality if you have 3 walls? Does the open side which will be covered with a big curtain need anything? This is a second story loft that measures 15’6” wide by 25’ long. The open side is 25’ long. I have a vaulted ceiling that is 12’ at the peak and 7’ at the wall.
Any chance you're going to be reviewing the newer budget gaming projectors such as the optoma uhd35/uhd38 and viewsonic px701-4k/px748-4k? They run the same chip I believe with the 4ms lag 240hz 1080p gaming mode but nobody has made a direct comparison between the picture quality differences. I've seen mixed reviews about washed out colours for the viewsonic but that is currently the cheaper offer in the UK up to £150 cheaper
my room is silver polished painted (matte) my room is 11x10x9 flat ceiling and it's mind blowing sound 5 channel polk signature elite with 2 rci-80 in ceiling and dual svs pb 1000 pro's powered by a yamaha rx-a2a aventage avr. 55* U8G hisense. movies and gaming sound 100x better then my local amc cinema that uses QVC speakers.
What guidelines should be followed when setting up a home theater in a room in a condo? My concern is bothering neighbors upstairs with the bass, so I haven't gotten a subwoofer yet! Also I would be very interested in a sound deadening guide for this reason, as I'm unsure of optimal locations
Base can resonate through a building due to the low frequencies that emanate from such a speaker but that is not to say you cannot have base just do not over do it. What is more important for you is clarity of sound rather than being loud. Even a bose system for you would sound great but you get that level of sound for a lot less money. Large speakers do not need to be for loudness but can offer a very clear sound to you so that every detail stands out. underestimate
Epson EH-TW7100 4K PRO-UHD have you or will you review this little product i love to hear you thoughts on this one. not sure how else to ask hope you see this comment. take care stay safe Chris
I know this is a video that maybe over a year old. I’m trying to squeeze a 120 inch screen into a room that is 12x13 with 8ft ceilings. However there is a area in this room by the entrance of the room that measures 15 inches. But I would have to angle the projector. Do you think this will work. I could send you a drawing with the dimensions.
My room barely has space for a 90x200 cm bed, so I'm pretty sure It's too small for a projector, seeing as it's not even space for a 32" tv unless I put it on the wall :P
I have a 65 C9 0LED ,with a nakamichi elite shokwafe 9.2.4 sound bar, pani 820 4k player ,sony 1100 4k player ,ps3 in my 12 x14 bedroom. It works purrrfectly, tho 65 in tv is aplenty
Well in reality the most common excuses/reasons that people come up with is the money/budget factor. None are willing to go the extra mile to invest in a PJ/Surround sound setup. The maximum they will go for would be your run-of-the-mill 55" inch 4K TV with a sound bar at most (most likely a Chinese brand of the TV or/and a Chinese sound bar). The excuse they give for a small room size in reality is a "sugar-coating" over budgetary reasons. To them investing in a home theater is an unnecessary expense.
Hey Chris, great vidoes, thanks. As I'm setting up my Home Theaters in the basement; my question is what do I do about the crop ceilings. will the impact the sound quality ? if it does, then is there a any solution to it ?
Hey Chris Where did you get those acoustic panels?? They give your room a clean look. I like the tapered edges. I'd like to get something similar. Also, are you still liking your def tech system?
Chris, I have plenty of uncontrolled light in my family room. Interested in buying the LG HU85LA and would like your help I n figuring out the biggest (minimum 120”) ALR/CLR screen I can get. What brand and type do you recommend? Thanks 🙏
my front speakers will be placed forward facing but inside the wall cavity. There is a small gap between the back of the speaker and framing wall. will this be a major issue? im ok if i dont get the max performance but i dont want "noticeable" muffled sounds if that makes sense.
I love the content. I’ve learned so much since watching your channel and greatly appreciate you sharing your knowledge. Can you do a review on “in-wall” speakers? I am currently framing out what will be my home theater and would like to consider in wall surround.
They are lying. The most common excuse is not having the money lol
Or in my case. The energy.
Or the space lol
100% the money lol
You can slowly create a movie theater over the time that it takes to build one... you just need to have patience and be happy with what you can get slowly.
I reckon the most truthful answer to why most people do not have a home cinema, it’s simple, they can’t be bothered putting in the effort as they feel it’s not worth having one for the amount of time they would use it.
Excellent information as usual. In several ways a small room can be better for a home theater because it will be easier and cheaper to cover windows and walls in order to dampen reflected light and sound, and since you're likely going to end up sitting closer to the screen, a given screen size will give you a wider angle of view.
For reference, with a 16:9 screen, the height is 0.49 times the diagonal and the width 0.87 times the diagonal. So a 100-inch screen (not counting any border) has dimensions of about 87 by 49 inches. A 120-inch screen is about 105 x 51 inches.
The horizontal angle of view depends on the screen size and the eyeball-to-screen distance. For casual viewing many people are content with an angle of 30 degrees or even less. SMPTE and THX lean more toward 40 degrees for movie watching. Of course, for the even wider angle you prefer, you could go as high as 50 degrees. Here is the ratio of screen distance to screen diagonal for each of these:
30 degrees: distance 1.63 x screen diagonal (casual viewing)
40 degrees: distance 1.20 x screen diagonal (conventional home theater recommendation)
50 degrees: distance 0.93 x screen diagonal (sort of home IMAX)
Note that for 40 degrees this works out to almost exactly one foot of viewing distance for each 10 inches of screen size, which means watching a 100-inch screen from 10 feet away or a 120-inch scree from 12 feet away.
I personally think 50 degrees is a bit too much, so I hereby propose a new, slightly reduced standard: a 47-degree horizontal field of view, which conveniently gives a viewing distance almost exactly equal to the screen diagonal. For a 120-inch (10-foot) screen, this would mean sitting 120 inches (10 feet) away. I further propose calling this the Majestic View. How about that?
My room is 11x12 and it rocks! On your recommendation I painted all walls including ceiling pencil point gray. No light reflection at all. 7.2 all klipsch all around. Calibrated with a sound meter and it sounds great. TV is 65" 4k but want to go to a 75". And it only sits 2 people. Got nice home theater seats though. Onkyo tx rz820 reciever. Carpet. Absorption panels and diffusers in strategic places.. very happy.. buy of course I want more!
Can i have picture of ur room my room dimensions are same
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I built my whole channel off having a small sized room for my home theater. Seated position should be your first consideration as everything stems from that, including screen size - I learned that the hard way when I first started. Nicely done - awesome you can help your family and friends to build rooms.
Your room is not as small. Mine is only 12 by 14
A fully dedicated home theater room is not an option for me. I always find it funny that a small room in the US is still a whole lot bigger than a small room in my country (The Netherlands). It's a legitimate reason for many people living here since most places simply are too small to have dedicated home theaters. Although mine is even smaller than that. It's one of the reasons why it took me so long to purchase a 4k TV of a relative big size (55 inch). I had to put in some work to make that happen. In hindsight I could have gone bigger because you get used to it real fast. So after a while I did decide to do so. I opted for a projector and a hanging screen (retractable / 100 inch 16:9) since that is the most practical for me. That way I can pull down the screen when I want to watch a film that warrants use of projector (BenQ TK700STi gaming beamer) without having to adjust already existing setup.
I think I am very lucky that the distance is just right. Had my living room been smaller I would be too close to the screen and then I don't think it would be much fun. Gaming on this projector certainly is a little overwhelming. Perfect for horror games to intensify the experience but I prefer the TV for more action orientated games.
I do want to add while I understand that you are trying to say that basically anyone can have a home theater of some sorts I do think that most people don't really want one. For film fans like me it's a no brainer. But for casual viewers a TV usually is enough.
Haha, YES!! I've been telling Friends and family this for YEARS now! Finally a video from someone that explains that clearly you can fit a projector in a LOT smaller spaces than you thought you could! I love how you said something to the tone of "....the end up going with a larger screen size and sit closer to the screen..." lol.
Another great video! Keep it up!!!
Hi... Very motivating video... Initially I planned to use my living room into multipurpose room. My room dimensions are 16X24. I made arrangements for 7.1.2 setup and a projector mount at 10.5 feet from the screen.
But lately I noticed it is not convenient to use speakers in living room as the sound is little irritating to my family members in other rooms.
So now I decided to have a dedicated movie room, which is one of my bedroom. Dimensions are 14x 17. But my seating will be appx 12 feet from the screen. So i felt ur video is very useful for me.
I have denon 3800h and Polk signature series with 2 Atmos speakers.
I think it's nice that ppl have theaters of any size. BUT, there is a LOT more acoustic problems with a small room vs a large one. The sound will usually be a lot better with a big room. As long as one acknowledges that - run with what you have.
Awesome, Just installed a 75in so glad that I didn't go any bigger. The 7-10ft range fits perfectly to my living room. Got a Sony Bravia. Now working on my 5.2.2 theater system and the hyperion light setup
Great video! I’d love to see some videos of small rooms that you have helped put together. Small home theater tours. With dimensions and equipment.
You Would Be Freeing Up So Much Space If You Ditched All Of The Big Bulky Looking Speakers 🔈 . In Wall Speakers is the Best Way To Go. Clean Look.
"Center channel speaker placement isn't as important" - Actually it is the single most important speaker, and placement is utterly important, but more and more difficult as screen size increases. A 65" screen and no issues (keep the center speaker as close as possible to the bottom of the screen). With an 85" screen you are already negatively affecting the Frontal Stage (on screen action). At 100" and above it's a total mess and hence people tend to want perforated screens with speakers placed behind the screen, however your Sound quality will go down even when using the very Best perforated screens out there..., plus some form of equalization is a must in order to help compensate for those screen losses, especially in the upper frequencies (say above 5khz). Although I suppose that all of my above comments assumes that one places the Audio at or above the importance of the Video, for which it's obvious that I most definitely do (not all folks do). So for all you Audio first folks, you may want to consider my above comments... and to Learn as much as you can on the topic before going with a screen size that ends up lowering your overall sound quality (for Movies AND Music).
Excellent comment!!!
two other things are like the point out when building a home theatre in a small room, if possible try to go with standmount bookshelves as opposed to towers, I found towers were way too boomy for my small environment! secondly one should go for two smaller subs as opposed to one Big sub (consistent low frequency effects throughout the whole room) btw you obviously know what you're talking about click on the red dragon hit the...
'REL and Q Acoustics' video and I'd be happy to hear from you if you think I've done anything wrong?
Criticism welcomed! 😟
@@Antibackgroundnoise Well Thank you. I hope it helps some folks. I so LOVE this hobby! Agree, one ought to verify IF bass notes played from the location of their main speakers (+ seating position) in their given room will work or not. For often main speakers placed for Best imaging and sound staging will (as TP notes) sound terrible below 80 (or 60) hz, and therefore one is much better off with big powerful bookshelf speakers (often a single 6.5 driver won't cut it... unless playback Volume is kept medium-ish or the room is small / seating is close to the speakers), or a small tower speaker which can easily handle > 50 hz... and then employ Multi-Sub (two minimum and three ideally). Oh sure, I'll take a look... besides with both REL and Q Acoustics how can I not... two Brands that make really good stuff!
I haven't built my HT yet, but experimentation has shown me that it's hard to get optimal sound in a small room for any seat but the one in front row center. Every seat off center is going to be closer to the speakers on one side wall than to the speakers on the other side wall (also applies to front L & R speakers).
The view of the screen will also be distorted at any seat off center. For these reasons, I think HT would be disappointing for any seat off center, and terrible if the distance that it is off center is a significant fraction (20% ?) of the width of the room (and screen).
For these reasons, I would think you would want a room 20' wide for a 3-seat or 4-seat couch.
I notice though, most HT rooms are narrow & deep. I think it would make more sense to put the screen in the middle of the wide wall (unless your room is then not deep enough for another row of seats, if you need it).
We built a 22’x23’ media room which is obviously large enough. I went with an 83” OLED. But it’s my basement I’d like to put a projector in. That’s very small, maybe 7’ ceiling, 10’ wide, 20’ long.
We recently built our new small acoustically treated home theater in a 5.1.2 configuration and having room dimensions of 16x12x9 feet (about 1700cuft).
AVR - Denon AVR-X2700H
Speakers - KEF T205 package (On Wall) and Ci160er pair as heights
Subwoofer - SVS PB1000 Pro
Projector - Optoma UHD-30
This video has me thinking about putting my Yamaha RXV1 in the living room. I have always been concerned about space. Your videos are great, keep ‘em coming Chris!
The beauty of a home theatre is the fact it can be personalized. Speakers can be directed or be indirect. You can have as many channels as you like. You can balance viewing distance with speaker layout and so on.
Some people like dynamic smooth image while others like to try and emulate the film look.
You know what....I built my HT breaking all of the rules and making it work. My HT is a 11 1/2 FT X 18 FT room with 6'9 ceiling height. I am using a long throw onto a 120 inch screen and reference surround system. I even have three theater recliner seats on riser.
I thought that my (bed 2,5m x 5m x 2,5m) room also would be to small to I started with 5 satellite speakers and a small sub..... Now I have a 7.1.2 setup with huge speakers and bought a couch. Every time I wanna sit down a by my desk I have to move the sub😂
I saw one pro installer put a ultra short throw projector upside down on the ceiling, making the in-wall install much simpler in an existing room, and making the look and center speaker situation much cleaner.
One trick instead of buying floor standers is to buy higher end book shelf or on walls with a good sub. In walls or on walls in a small room will give better cohesion than a floorstander as often the lower frequency drivers are hitting the couch or other furniture, therefore not getting the full capabilities of the floorstander.
Most people think their room is too small because they want to have the biggest screen and a very large screen is not always the right fit for every room.
I mean, my room is 7.25 foot high x 10.4 foot facing one way x 6.9 foot facing the other way. And I have a bed, a chest of drawers, a seat and a desk/table in the room. So It’s definitely too small for a proper home theatre set up. Best I can do is a soundbar and a 50” 4K TV, that just about fits, considering it’s on the side with the door. The TV and soundbar aren’t wall mounted though. I prefer they not be.
Excellent video, but being close to the screen would hurt my eyes, but we do use the screen alot, we watch alot of movies per week.
Can you do another tour of your home theater? It's been awhile
I keep putting it off but it's LONG overdue!
@@ChrisMajestic one more vote for HT video, great video Chris, thank.u. I'm planning to set a projector in a.small room too 4mx3.5m
@@ChrisMajestic I currently have the Optoma GT 5600 and a CLR screen with a .6 gain and I'm been feeling like it's really dim especially in dark scenes. Is this common for all projectors or is the DLP bulb holding it back? Been thinking about going with an Epson LS300 or LS500, but can't decide if it's going to make much of a difference and I should just switch to an 85 inch TV instead.
@@ChrisMajestic hey Chris, I love your content. I picked up the Vava 4K after your review. I know you said you weren’t too impressed with the HDR on it and the blacks but I got it on sale for $2200 at Best Buy. I love it. My question to you was about SVS subs. I recently purchased the PC200 and the entire SVS ULTRA home theater system with the towers. My question was do you think the sub will give me enough base?I solely plan on using it for movies. I was thinking of returning it and buying 2 PB1000s or if I can get a deal, 2PB2000 pros or just one PB3000. Wanted to get your opinion. Thanks man!
Great video and explanation as always! I agree - bigger screen is better than not big enough - as long as I'm not having to move my head around to see everything on the screen.
my home is an open concept so my home theater is huge and my components reflect that.i built a dedicated 15'x15' music room above my workshop just for music. cerwin vega at 12's, paradigm subs and infinity bookshelfs and a center channel.i also added a 60" oled 4k tv just in case.it keeps the wife from complaining about the "eccessive bass"
Dude i have the ultimate build for a budget build. I have a Denon Avr 3801 & Avr 3802 & avr 3803 - cost £300 Each amp is 7.1 but the 3803 is 7.2. I have each amp doing multi zone all in one room with Bose 301 Speaker x 9 and Two set floor bose speakers which are quads with 3 subs which are JBL Active as well a some sony high end book shelf speakers handling the mid part of the room and two centre speakers from bowers Sounds amazing with no distortion total cost £800
For small rooms above 82" latest TVs are best. These have best picture as compared to Projector. Some time you need full light in room, TV will work for that.
I just bought a new projector, a 1080p to replace my 720p projector. The screensize at the same distance was a bit smaller. The old projector was in front of me and I lost a lot of space where otherwise I would be sitting. Now the new projector is behind me, I could bring my sofa a bit further to the front and now the picture is perfect to me, no clutter in front of me and a joy to watch my movies. By the way I alway watch outside on my veranda where I had a wall prepared for my movies. I can sit there nearly all nights of the year, as I live in a warm country.
Exactly. Aren't there on the market smaller speakers but with enough power? Can you imagine watching films in IMAX or any other cinema with bunch of gigantic speakers all over the place. Nope, they are visible but hardly noticeable and look quite smaller than those in your vid. Often people install huge speakers that draw attention more than the screen itself. That's not the idea of cinema! Big screens....always! Anyway, I like your videos! Cheers!
I have an 8' x 10' room, and we have a 120" screen, floor standing speakers, sound absorption panels, and a love seat.
Seriously will that work?? I have 10x11 room.. can I go for it??
My theater is roughly 9x12.5 feet
Had a 100 inch with the budget projector but upgraded to 4k and can only manage 80 inch now...
With the 500 Watt logitech 5.1 system and some flat maroon paint you don't know where you are when the movie starts 🤘
Hey, any advice is you definitely don't have space to mount rear speakers behind you? My couch is flat to the wall...
My first projector home theater was in a single wide trailer and it worked great with a 100" screen.
I installed the hitachi CP-X4021N projector which is a projector typically installed in lecture halls and larger classrooms. It is installed in a room where it is about 8-9 feet from the screen and it produces a very large projected image.
I have that Target Blockbuster tshirt! I bought it in San Fransisco in 2019 visiting from Australia🤙
Great topic Chris. My living room is 3.5x3.5m and I'm rocking a 92" projector screen and a full 5.1.4 speaker system
Some people may only have a living room that is quite small but they can still have a good sounding system.
There is a lot of audiophile nonsense as well about what gear should and should not be used. People need to hear it for them self.
I've got mine set up in my bedroom, screen is against the wall and projector is against the other. 100 inch screen with a vankyo 1080p projector ( forgot the exact model) hooked up to a kenwood VR-615 amplifier with 5.1 surround sound. Took me a year and a half to get all the stuff together and make this set up.
I have a 12x12x8 room. Is this too small to try and tackle a home theater? Sadly there are no other rooms in my house to accommodate this
My room is 7.5x13. Screen about a foot off the wall and sectional couhc all the way Against the wall. Wondering if I’d be better off with 5.1 or 7.1
thanks for making this video sir. I just purchased a home but it has no basement so my home theater would have to be someplece out in the open...
Forgot to mention dark walls for projection, toeing in speakers, subs should be further than each other than a media cabinet length like on the pictures you showed, they are very collocated. For sound absorption proper panels and not that foam stuff you find on amazon. Audioholics has some great videos with Anthony Grimani that will go through how to set up a room properly if people don't want to read a few hundred pages.
IMHO, people that complain about room space already know someone with a good setup and don't want to be judged by or compared to that person.
Nice video, but I wish it would have been longer and more detailed. You could have talked about surround channels some more, ATMOS speakers (in-ceiling vs speaker-mounted) and ceiling height issues.
What is a good 8K HDMI Cable manufacturer for a 30 foot run from a projector to an AV Receiver
My one concern with doing a projector is my room I'm would want a projector is full of windows will light pass through the back on the screen
Would you consider making a video on Media Room seating options? I am currently building my home, and I'll have a 13.5 ft wide by 17.5 ft deep Media Room, and Ideally would love to have at least 2 rows of seats. Please consider making a video touching on the factors to consider when setting up a room, and why not, if you have examples to share, even better.
As usual, great video :-)
this is almost identical to my media room setup (14 wide x18 deep) and I have a row of 4 media chairs, my original plan was to place 2 pairs of 2 seat sets on either end of the doorway on risers (my doorway is at the "back" of the room's 18 foot length in the center). and leave enough room for someone to be able to walk between those seats and my first row when not fully reclined. I've switched to now planning to do a row of 4 media seats that I have and adding a bar behind those seats for an additional 4 people. leaves me more space overall and I like the idea of having a comfortable place to sit and eat for informal watching without the need for a tray that fits into a cup holder and other not as ideal alternatives. otherwise i'd also consider a u shaped setup utilizing the rooms width that could sit 6-8 people and maxing out the throw distance with the 14ft depth. the advantage of that configuration to me is it's a much more intimate seating arrangement and doesn't give the room a singular use feel/layout everyone can interact comfortably and you could still easily fit a large screen and have adequate distance from the "money" seats, but there would be some compromise for those that would likely be too close on the ends.
I have a budget 1080p projector with computer speakers and subwoofer in my tiny bedroom projected on a wall from about 8ft throw distance it works well
I went with 4K OLED instead of a 8K projector. For you sound it was the Sony HT-Z9F sound bar and the rear speaker set addition for true 5.1.
The major advantage is that bar allowed me to adjust the sound level of each speaker individually. And by george IT WORKED! My room is VERY small though and my parents would NEVED allow a wall mount projector. As it is I had to get 3M wall stickers to stick my 2 rears to my walls (I learned from my previous system poster tack was not the way to go...)
In choosing your screen size you didn’t mention choosing the screen ratio first also.
Great video! I got the idea to get a projector from TikTok but got really into projectors after finding your channel! It’s definitely true that you can have a cool setup in a small room. I setup my projector in my bedroom with the logitech z906 5.1 system and watching movies is a lot of fun ☺️ everything I use and how I use it may not be ideal but it works all the same and I enjoy it! 🙏🏾
Consider the size of your room and will you use a home theatre enough to justify the cost. There is so much information this video I was overwhelmed with the details.
What size room is too small, like 11x10 is that too small?
For me it’s not so much having a small room, it’s because I’m on the top floor of a small apartment building in a quiet neighborhood so I’m kinda scared about spending $4000 on a Klipsch home theater system
Great title for the video and great high quality video as usually. I’ll tap back in but I wanted to give you a shout out really quick 💪🏽🔥
WOA you answered all my questions in a short video. masterful.
weird but do you have any tips for paint color, carpet color etc...
...what about 3 subs...2 in front on the sides and one in the rear behind the seats?
My excuse- the TV stand i have doesnt have enough room for the centre channel speaker, and im too incompetent to try and mount an 85" TV to the wall to make extra room.
What do you do for sound quality if you have 3 walls? Does the open side which will be covered with a big curtain need anything? This is a second story loft that measures 15’6” wide by 25’ long. The open side is 25’ long. I have a vaulted ceiling that is 12’ at the peak and 7’ at the wall.
Yup! I own magico s7 speakers and my room is too small. My room is 12 x 14 feet and the bass is literally strongest outside the room 😀
Any chance you're going to be reviewing the newer budget gaming projectors such as the optoma uhd35/uhd38 and viewsonic px701-4k/px748-4k? They run the same chip I believe with the 4ms lag 240hz 1080p gaming mode but nobody has made a direct comparison between the picture quality differences.
I've seen mixed reviews about washed out colours for the viewsonic but that is currently the cheaper offer in the UK up to £150 cheaper
The best video I saw on RUclips for Projectors. Im getting one soon. Whats the best projectors under 700 bucks Chris?
Your videos are always 🔥 setting up a theater room once I move into my home and this helped a lot. Keep up the good work ✊🏾
Thanks Chris I appreciate it. Great explanation.
my room is silver polished painted (matte) my room is 11x10x9 flat ceiling and it's mind blowing sound 5 channel polk signature elite with 2 rci-80 in ceiling and dual svs pb 1000 pro's powered by a yamaha rx-a2a aventage avr. 55* U8G hisense. movies and gaming sound 100x better then my local amc cinema that uses QVC speakers.
Can you do a video on best OUTDOOR projector! Keep up the great videos
What guidelines should be followed when setting up a home theater in a room in a condo? My concern is bothering neighbors upstairs with the bass, so I haven't gotten a subwoofer yet! Also I would be very interested in a sound deadening guide for this reason, as I'm unsure of optimal locations
Base can resonate through a building due to the low frequencies that emanate from such a speaker but that is not to say you cannot have base just do not over do it. What is more important for you is clarity of sound rather than being loud.
Even a bose system for you would sound great but you get that level of sound for a lot less money.
Large speakers do not need to be for loudness but can offer a very clear sound to you so that every detail stands out.
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Epson EH-TW7100 4K PRO-UHD have you or will you review this little product i love to hear you thoughts on this one. not sure how else to ask hope you see this comment. take care stay safe Chris
LOL no, I have a 10 x 10 x 8 room with a full 5.2.4 system, You just have to want it bad enough, and you'll find a way to make it work.
I know this is a video that maybe over a year old. I’m trying to squeeze a 120 inch screen into a room that is 12x13 with 8ft ceilings. However there is a area in this room by the entrance of the room that measures 15 inches. But I would have to angle the projector. Do you think this will work. I could send you a drawing with the dimensions.
My room barely has space for a 90x200 cm bed, so I'm pretty sure It's too small for a projector, seeing as it's not even space for a 32" tv unless I put it on the wall :P
What would you recommend for a three wall space in an open basement area? What would be the best way to create a wall without constructing one?
I have a 65 C9 0LED ,with a nakamichi elite shokwafe 9.2.4 sound bar, pani 820 4k player ,sony 1100 4k player ,ps3 in my 12 x14 bedroom. It works purrrfectly, tho 65 in tv is aplenty
Well in reality the most common excuses/reasons that people come up with is the money/budget factor. None are willing to go the extra mile to invest in a PJ/Surround sound setup. The maximum they will go for would be your run-of-the-mill 55" inch 4K TV with a sound bar at most (most likely a Chinese brand of the TV or/and a Chinese sound bar). The excuse they give for a small room size in reality is a "sugar-coating" over budgetary reasons. To them investing in a home theater is an unnecessary expense.
I live in a broom closet. Good.
What speaker system did you use in this video for that room? I'm setting up a media room and I like the setup
I have 15m² tops ... right now I've got 6m² till I sort out a proper 65" screen & get new carpet/move the armchair
Some useful information here🤔
Thanks!!
What dimensions would be considered a small room? For example I have a 15' l x 10'w x 17' high ceiling room.
Hey Chris, great vidoes, thanks.
As I'm setting up my Home Theaters in the basement; my question is what do I do about the crop ceilings. will the impact the sound quality ? if it does, then is there a any solution to it ?
Do you think the best ported and non ported subwoofers under $1000 is SVS PB-2000 Pro and SB-3000? If not what are better options?
I have a 14’x16’ home theater. 120” screen size on a painted grey wall and 5.1 surround sound.
why not go bigger? i have a 12x16 and doing 160inch on a painted wall too, what projector are you using?
Splendid demo and info well done 👏🏼 👍🏼
And thank you from England 🏴
No, my room isn't small, it's my bank account.
always great content, keeps those of us that are yet to take the plunge thinking about the possibilities. really appreciate it
@chris majestic do you have a video on setting up sound absorbing panels? best methods, and how to know what amount and where you need them?
Hey Chris
Where did you get those acoustic panels?? They give your room a clean look. I like the tapered edges. I'd like to get something similar. Also, are you still liking your def tech system?
Great video! I have a very small room (7' l x 13'w x 8.5' high). It is still possible to have an imersive 3d audio using a 5.1.2 system?
Thanks
Chris, I have plenty of uncontrolled light in my family room. Interested in buying the LG HU85LA and would like your help I n figuring out the biggest (minimum 120”) ALR/CLR screen I can get. What brand and type do you recommend? Thanks 🙏
This was dope! Thank you!
You should go watch some acoustics fields videos on sound control in rooms
Great to see you put out some more home theater info!
Great content 👌👍👏
[ hey chris what projeter would you choose if your updating why do have 5050 when you can have the 6050 are going some where big with this ]
What’s the smallest successful home theater you’ve seen I think I want to set one up but the room is incredibly small
my front speakers will be placed forward facing but inside the wall cavity. There is a small gap between the back of the speaker and framing wall. will this be a major issue? im ok if i dont get the max performance but i dont want "noticeable" muffled sounds if that makes sense.
12x14, screen size 160inch, using the whole wall BenQ tk850
Please… tell me where you got that TV stand? That’s the kind I’m looking for but can’t find anywhere.
I love the content. I’ve learned so much since watching your channel and greatly appreciate you sharing your knowledge. Can you do a review on “in-wall” speakers? I am currently framing out what will be my home theater and would like to consider in wall surround.