@AFRAMS-CCT AF-RAMS-CCT thats what i am saying its bull the way he trashes that tac force like u said i have collected them for 10 years and have never broken any of the 155 knifes i have i have broken 2 benchmade and they are all the talk but compleate shit so screw this guy im done
As an owner of three or so Tac Force knives ... They sure are cool *LOOKING*, but they don't hold a very good edge and eventually the liner lock fails and won't hold the blade reliably. I recall they used to claim "440 stainless". Without a letter after the "440", I have to guess it's 440A.
Love my Kershaws, but I have had to put blue loctite on the adjustment screw of every one. And heads up, the Kershaws break their springs every now and then. Kershaw will send you a new one no questions asked.
The 58-61 HRC isn't the type of steel on the Benchmade... That's how hard the steel is on the Rockwell scale. The blade steel on that version of the Mini Griptilian is 154 CM which is pretty dang good for the price.
Question for the true knife aficionado's out there: I have a $25 Kershaw and I love it. I don't have it in front of me right now, but I think it's like T1551 or something like that. What really is the difference between a knife like this and, say, a $180 Syperco knife? I've never held a Spyderco so maybe that's all you have to do to know. But for just an EDC pocket knife I don't know why I would want more than what I have. I ask this with all respect. I accept that maybe it's like wine: the everyday grocery store wine drinker may not really appreciate a $100 bottle of wine that you have to special order from some vineyard.
You're pretty spot on with the wine analogy. With the higher priced knives like Benchmade, Spyderco, Zero Tolerance, etc. you are paying for (much) better materials (S30v, 154CM, M4, etc. steels that far outperform the 8cr13mov or 440c you often find on lower end knives; titanium, carbon fiber, and other materials that reduce weight and increase performance; bearing systems; better lock designs, etc.) you are paying for fit and finish, you are paying (in many cases) for a designer's name, you are ultimately paying for a knife that will last longer, perform better, and just be objectively better (this is where I find the wine analogy breaks down since I don't appreciate fine wines myself and I feel that wine preference is subjective). However, at the end of the day that $25 Kershaw is far and away the better option for most people and will perform admirably. At the end of the day the expensive knives are cool and most of us never grow out of liking cool toys.
Tom Abbott that little Cryo of yours is a gem of a budget knife! Very much not typical of its price point. I have a couple of ZeroTolerance 0770... one in Elmax and one in M4/carbon fiber. Gotta say except for my ZT blade steels being higher performance, the fit and feel of that little Cryo of yours is very much on par for fit and action, just a little heavier. I also have a couple of Spyderco knives... I think the thing with them is mostly ergonomics, spydes have a very specific feel in the hand and a love if or hate it kind of look, but even cheap spiderco knives have a good fit/finish/feel in my opinion. When you start getting into 250$ bearing pivot knives then things start getting really different... like the difference between stick shift and paddle shifters, there are reasons for both, but when the numbers are crunched the performance improvements are undeniable.
Tom what is the worst situation you can see yourself or family in? Is this knife going to be up to the task of going through seat belts and seats to get you family out of a burning car? This is just an example without getting gross. Talk to a police office you know that has seen bad things and ask them what they carry. I used to be an officer and I carry a Zero Tolerance 0200ST, but I also carry a Buck 301 which I have carried for over 30 years for utility purposes.
I have a tac force folder and it's great. There's nothing wrong with the liner lock in it. He whacked the tac force 3 times harder and just gently tapped the other 2, lol. Some of us would never pay $100.00 for a pocket knife.
I've had my Mtech $20 knife for 7ish years. I'm a welder, and it's a great knife. Have to tighten the blade every week, but other than it, it's great. Originally bought it so I don't have to worry, but now that I've had it so long, and it's been through my entire career, I'd be devastated if it broke. So it's now retired.
Personally I am a big fan of the liner locks and I love Kershaw. It was all I carried when I was an officer. Started with the 1550ST and then went to the bigger beefier Zero Tolerance (a Military division of Kershaw) 0200ST. I still carry the ZT every day. I've watched you videos from gun shops, if your going to do knife videos you should do a video from Blade HQ down in Lehi. Their selection is massive.
never been a fan of the griptilion. have a mini myself and it feels cheap. I hate the handles but it does what it's intended to do and benchmade is a good company. I also prefer a knife with a little bit of weight to it. my knives I carry most are my benchmade Stryker, spyderco paramilitary 2 and the spyderco Gayle Bradley 2 ( think you'd like that one, not super light but very stout). one of my faves is my ZT 0550 gen 3 but that's a tank of a knife so I don't carry it often. great video, I like anything knife related.
You should do a video on the core15 keymod scout, just bought one and am curious as to what you'd think of it. I bought a tacforce once when I was like 15 because it was so cheap, it showed when the blade got stuck in the locked position, like 20 times on the first day I got it. Keep doing your videos man they helped pass the time and to entertain me during my being stationed in korea.
Wish you would have compared knives designed for equivalent use. The fact that you prefer a smaller/lighter/grippier knife has little to do with brand and everything to do with the style.
Not for nothing brother but I'm a workman and carry a carpenter knife. Olfa is a good brand but for sure not a hacking blade. $50 is a good price for most decent knives by honestly for a 5% improvement over Chinese junk you pay 10 times as much. I use my knives several times a day for work but while camping I do have some sort of Spiderco for my pocket, (decent I guess). What do you suggest for a practical guy who doesn't care a whit about brand or name and is very rough on his gear?
Go to Ali Express and get the knockoff benchmade and spyderco knives. The metal probably isn't amazing, but the fit and finish of those knives are bang on. It got to the point where it was VERY difficult to tell the real thing from the replica. They were genuinely good knives and cost 1/10th of the price.
Hey Chad! I have been carrying a Smith & Wesson First Responder knife for about 4 years. I got it at a gun show for $20 and has served me well. So I decided to step up to a Spyderco Manix 2 in orange color produced special for the Cultery Shoppe. It retails for $199, but I picked it for $119 online. The blade is a V90 steel and is pretty lightweight. What's your take on Spyderco? I love it. Thanks, Patrick.
My wife got me a Spyderco Dice for my birthday two years ago. Since then I've used it as my everyday carry and also used it at my work. I would say that Spyderco is a great company and that they make great knives as well.
Pro Tip: don’t listen to this guy. Under 50$ buy a Rat II or Tenacious Otherwise get a PM2 and die happy 💁♀️🔪 I have a grip mini with the same blade play, it’s endemic of the line. Attempting to tighten it just makes the blade hit the scales.
Listen man not to start any beef but the way u talked about the tac force i have collected them for 10 years and i have never had any break and also i have taken all of them hunting and camping and fishing and i have only had 2 benchmades and they both broke when i do the same stuff to a tac force so im sorry but i dont like how u make fun of the tac force
Mel_the_Nut maybe people don't appreciate half ass reviews with half ass information that if you knew what he was actually talking about, you'd be disappointed. But that's just me. He explained common sense with a visual. If he thinks people want to waste time watching him look up information he doesn't even know what half of it means, he won't get many subscribers.
that's bs I bought a 10 dollar one in a clear market after all my eapensive one got lost or just grow feets some how and the 10$ one all ready have it for 2 years use I am a Mechanic and use it everyday day carry it every day still the best 10$ I spend just that if you plastic ones for 10$ whel you know but if you find a heavy metal 10 one go for it
That’s what I was saying the whole time. I got a tactical knife at local ACE and I did all the “tests” he said and it passed them all with flying colors.
Your review was trash. Super unfair. Used the strength of a bear on the 1st and then the strenght of TINKER BELL. With the others. Tac Force does the same job and if u loose it , doesnt hurt. Lol. Not the junk u made it seem like.
You probably should stay away from knife videos..... That was pathetic. A million ways I could pick apart what you say. Altho I do agree your end opinion is obvious.
Bro, you were way more rough with the 10 dollar one than the 50, I stopped after that.
AFRAMS-CCT AF-RAMS-CCT didn't want to disappoint
Same fuck this video
@AFRAMS-CCT AF-RAMS-CCT thats what i am saying its bull the way he trashes that tac force like u said i have collected them for 10 years and have never broken any of the 155 knifes i have i have broken 2 benchmade and they are all the talk but compleate shit so screw this guy im done
Ricky G fuk this video too lol
AFRAMS-CCT AF-RAMS-CCT who cares it’s only 10 bucks
As an owner of three or so Tac Force knives ... They sure are cool *LOOKING*, but they don't hold a very good edge and eventually the liner lock fails and won't hold the blade reliably. I recall they used to claim "440 stainless". Without a letter after the "440", I have to guess it's 440A.
I have expensive knives and cheap knives. Sometimes the tool's usefulness is determined by the user.
Love my Kershaws, but I have had to put blue loctite on the adjustment screw of every one. And heads up, the Kershaws break their springs every now and then. Kershaw will send you a new one no questions asked.
that little black $9 is the one i bought off amazon about year ago 😂
The 58-61 HRC isn't the type of steel on the Benchmade... That's how hard the steel is on the Rockwell scale. The blade steel on that version of the Mini Griptilian is 154 CM which is pretty dang good for the price.
Darth Snowball he doesn't care assuming most people watching this common sense review wouldn't know it either.
Question for the true knife aficionado's out there: I have a $25 Kershaw and I love it. I don't have it in front of me right now, but I think it's like T1551 or something like that. What really is the difference between a knife like this and, say, a $180 Syperco knife? I've never held a Spyderco so maybe that's all you have to do to know. But for just an EDC pocket knife I don't know why I would want more than what I have. I ask this with all respect. I accept that maybe it's like wine: the everyday grocery store wine drinker may not really appreciate a $100 bottle of wine that you have to special order from some vineyard.
You're pretty spot on with the wine analogy. With the higher priced knives like Benchmade, Spyderco, Zero Tolerance, etc. you are paying for (much) better materials (S30v, 154CM, M4, etc. steels that far outperform the 8cr13mov or 440c you often find on lower end knives; titanium, carbon fiber, and other materials that reduce weight and increase performance; bearing systems; better lock designs, etc.) you are paying for fit and finish, you are paying (in many cases) for a designer's name, you are ultimately paying for a knife that will last longer, perform better, and just be objectively better (this is where I find the wine analogy breaks down since I don't appreciate fine wines myself and I feel that wine preference is subjective). However, at the end of the day that $25 Kershaw is far and away the better option for most people and will perform admirably. At the end of the day the expensive knives are cool and most of us never grow out of liking cool toys.
Tom Abbott that little Cryo of yours is a gem of a budget knife! Very much not typical of its price point. I have a couple of ZeroTolerance 0770... one in Elmax and one in M4/carbon fiber. Gotta say except for my ZT blade steels being higher performance, the fit and feel of that little Cryo of yours is very much on par for fit and action, just a little heavier. I also have a couple of Spyderco knives... I think the thing with them is mostly ergonomics, spydes have a very specific feel in the hand and a love if or hate it kind of look, but even cheap spiderco knives have a good fit/finish/feel in my opinion.
When you start getting into 250$ bearing pivot knives then things start getting really different... like the difference between stick shift and paddle shifters, there are reasons for both, but when the numbers are crunched the performance improvements are undeniable.
Tom what is the worst situation you can see yourself or family in? Is this knife going to be up to the task of going through seat belts and seats to get you family out of a burning car? This is just an example without getting gross. Talk to a police office you know that has seen bad things and ask them what they carry. I used to be an officer and I carry a Zero Tolerance 0200ST, but I also carry a Buck 301 which I have carried for over 30 years for utility purposes.
Great point.
I have a tac force folder and it's great. There's nothing wrong with the liner lock in it. He whacked the tac force 3 times harder and just gently tapped the other 2, lol. Some of us would never pay $100.00 for a pocket knife.
Me i woukd probly pay 30$ or less for a Gas station knifes
Times of him hitting them are
3:30
7:45 and
12:45
you can clearly see he’s being more gentle with the more expensive knives.
I've had my Mtech $20 knife for 7ish years. I'm a welder, and it's a great knife. Have to tighten the blade every week, but other than it, it's great.
Originally bought it so I don't have to worry, but now that I've had it so long, and it's been through my entire career, I'd be devastated if it broke. So it's now retired.
Tac force,mtech, and on are knives for people who want to get a knife every 3-5 months or so
Personally I am a big fan of the liner locks and I love Kershaw. It was all I carried when I was an officer. Started with the 1550ST and then went to the bigger beefier Zero Tolerance (a Military division of Kershaw) 0200ST. I still carry the ZT every day. I've watched you videos from gun shops, if your going to do knife videos you should do a video from Blade HQ down in Lehi. Their selection is massive.
a military division of Kershaw? lol. they are a mid level knife company purchased by the same parent company as Kershaw (Kai.).
And then I'm sitting here with a $750 liner lock knife lol .
Into The Rabbit Hole I’m guessing a high end rick hinder design?
never been a fan of the griptilion. have a mini myself and it feels cheap. I hate the handles but it does what it's intended to do and benchmade is a good company. I also prefer a knife with a little bit of weight to it. my knives I carry most are my benchmade Stryker, spyderco paramilitary 2 and the spyderco Gayle Bradley 2 ( think you'd like that one, not super light but very stout). one of my faves is my ZT 0550 gen 3 but that's a tank of a knife so I don't carry it often. great video, I like anything knife related.
Benchmade 940. All day. Every day. :)
You should do a video on the core15 keymod scout, just bought one and am curious as to what you'd think of it. I bought a tacforce once when I was like 15 because it was so cheap, it showed when the blade got stuck in the locked position, like 20 times on the first day I got it. Keep doing your videos man they helped pass the time and to entertain me during my being stationed in korea.
I bought a 20 dollar tactical at ace, and i can probably break all those with this windshield buster in this puppy.
I own a performance tool northwest trail pocket knife for 15 dollars it is very good for the price
Freaking thorn in the background.
This was the exact comment I was looking for holy fuck.
I carry the 940 Osborne because it’s the goat
Wish you would have compared knives designed for equivalent use. The fact that you prefer a smaller/lighter/grippier knife has little to do with brand and everything to do with the style.
The benchmade griptilian’s lock is called the axis lock
Not for nothing brother but I'm a workman and carry a carpenter knife. Olfa is a good brand but for sure not a hacking blade. $50 is a good price for most decent knives by honestly for a 5% improvement over Chinese junk you pay 10 times as much. I use my knives several times a day for work but while camping I do have some sort of Spiderco for my pocket, (decent I guess). What do you suggest for a practical guy who doesn't care a whit about brand or name and is very rough on his gear?
Go to Ali Express and get the knockoff benchmade and spyderco knives. The metal probably isn't amazing, but the fit and finish of those knives are bang on. It got to the point where it was VERY difficult to tell the real thing from the replica. They were genuinely good knives and cost 1/10th of the price.
8:08 The blue is awesome!
Me too Aframs i agree. He didnt want to waist $50.
Hey Chad! I have been carrying a Smith & Wesson First Responder knife for about 4 years. I got it at a gun show for $20 and has served me well. So I decided to step up to a Spyderco Manix 2 in orange color produced special for the Cultery Shoppe. It retails for $199, but I picked it for $119 online. The blade is a V90 steel and is pretty lightweight. What's your take on Spyderco? I love it. Thanks, Patrick.
My wife got me a Spyderco Dice for my birthday two years ago. Since then I've used it as my everyday carry and also used it at my work. I would say that Spyderco is a great company and that they make great knives as well.
my edc is a cold steel Finn wolf. in my opinion cold steel is the best knife company out there
Nice vid man, I hit up Walmart and get the cheap gerbers might invest
Kasakee2 Kershaw baby! Get a US made one and you won't be disappointed. Link, Blur, knockout. Look it up.
ummm have you ever seen/felt a Microtech Socom Elite?!?Has a linear lock... point made
He says his 100 dollar knife is the best because its HIS.i have the 10 dollar one and its doing grate for me
Nah i have had the benchmade grip (100$ one) for 5 years. Great knife. Tough.
Pro Tip: don’t listen to this guy.
Under 50$ buy a Rat II or Tenacious
Otherwise get a PM2 and die happy 💁♀️🔪
I have a grip mini with the same blade play, it’s endemic of the line. Attempting to tighten it just makes the blade hit the scales.
Thank you for actually knowing your stuff!
If you don't recommend any knife under $20-25 dollars then you have never used a Ka-Bar Dozer!
Listen man not to start any beef but the way u talked about the tac force i have collected them for 10 years and i have never had any break and also i have taken all of them hunting and camping and fishing and i have only had 2 benchmades and they both broke when i do the same stuff to a tac force so im sorry but i dont like how u make fun of the tac force
How do you have so few Patreon's? Come on people, good channel to support.
Mel_the_Nut maybe people don't appreciate half ass reviews with half ass information that if you knew what he was actually talking about, you'd be disappointed. But that's just me. He explained common sense with a visual. If he thinks people want to waste time watching him look up information he doesn't even know what half of it means, he won't get many subscribers.
that's bs I bought a 10 dollar one in a clear market after all my eapensive one got lost or just grow feets some how and the 10$ one all ready have it for 2 years use I am a Mechanic and use it everyday day carry it every day still the best 10$ I spend
just that if you plastic ones for 10$ whel you know but if you find a heavy metal 10 one go for it
That’s what I was saying the whole time. I got a tactical knife at local ACE and I did all the “tests” he said and it passed them all with flying colors.
Your review was trash. Super unfair.
Used the strength of a bear on the 1st and then the strenght of TINKER BELL.
With the others.
Tac Force does the same job and if u loose it , doesnt hurt. Lol.
Not the junk u made it seem like.
Just wondering but do you own any Balisong knives?
3:30 vs 7:47 vs 12:44
I have knife I paid for it $3 and it's better then thet $10 one
Spyderco guy here myself.
Sorry guys but that Benchmade just isn't worth $100 dollars by a long shot in my opinion.
Good video bro...
Kershaw links pocket clip is weak. mines broke 3 mo of carrying
Is that the thorn I spy
But Kershaw and benchmade are awesome
Kershaw Skyline. Add some blue lock tight on the screws ad it will last you forever. Best 30 bucks you'll spend
You probably should stay away from knife videos..... That was pathetic. A million ways I could pick apart what you say. Altho I do agree your end opinion is obvious.
Is it me or has his videos got strange?..... like cat lady....man love strange?
First ?
Ian Burgess yes, a cookie has been dispatched your way.
wow i was lucky enough to own a tac force knives that can broke a window
You don't know much about knives
stupid test.....uuuuuuu....