I wish Tolkien would have gone into detail on the lands in the West in regards to it's fauna and the larger fauna living in the seas. Large sea mammals would have also been interesting along with sapient/semi-sapient creatures not found on the eastern realms we all know about.
Nah man I'm not trying to get Lovecraftian diseases from eating whatever the Watcher was, it glows green in the dark and each tentacle had a hand on it 💀💀💀
Well, no. Gandalf wanted to go through Moria. It was Aragorn who wanted to avoid it and go through the pass. This is just one of the many plot roles introduced in the movies.
I could imagine it being washed away after the dwarves recaptured Moria under Durin 7th in the fourth age. They would want full access to the Doors of Durin and rebuild them, so the dwarves undamming the river and washing it away upon the river's release is a good way to get rid of it.
I think the reason that the Watch was drawn to the One Ring is that the evil in the One Ring ultimately has its source in Melkor's Ring, as does the Watcher have its source of evil in Melkor, probably during the Ainulindalë. Nothing else makes sense to me.
I don't quite understand what you mean. To say that the One Ring has its ultimate source in Melkor's Ring is arguably correct, since "Morgoth's Ring" is a metaphorical description of all of Arda. Thus anything made of physical matter in the world has a link to "Morgoth's Ring". But how do you mean it?
@@MysteriesOfWesternesse This is my take on where the power of the One Ring originated. In the Ainulindalë, Morgoth and like-minded Ainur seeded Arda with evil, so Arda itself is saturated with evil power. I believe Sauron was able to extract this evil power to add to his own evil power, therefore giving him more power than any Maia had a right to have. In my mind, it is ridiculous to think that the Ring itself simply enhanced Sauron's already-existing powers. The Ring by itself is just gold. Then the power inside the Ring is only Sauron's. He is a powerful Maia but no way he should have Valar level powers. But if he can draw Morgoth's Valar-like powers, then he can enhance his own power and become god-like being that we know him to be after the making of the One Ring. Following that theory, I believe this same power exists in the Watcher in the Water. Also, if I am right, I also don't think the Watcher intended to kill Frodo. I think it grabbed Frodo to take a look at a kindred soul. Anyway, that is my theory of this part of the lore.
Aha! Yes, if you start with that postulation, then that is indeed a logical outcome. However, there is room for debate about how exactly the ring itself functioned
It is said in other texts that the eagles didn’t want to and/or it was difficult for them to carry the weight long distances. Gwaihir was repaying a debt to Gandalf when he carried him from Isengard.
@@Crafty_Spirit I think if you look at how a tentacle actually works, you could say it wraps its finger around something because it curls around like a finger does, only longer. That is how I interpreted it.
The quote from the book is: "Out from the water a long sinuous tentacle had crawled; it was pale-green and luminous and wet. Its fingered end had hold of Frodo’s foot, and was dragging him into the water. Sam on his knees was now slashing at it with a knife." - FotR, A Journey in the Dark, p.402 So it's not quite a hand, but more implying something like multiple endings to a single tentacle
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I wish Tolkien would have gone into detail on the lands in the West in regards to it's fauna and the larger fauna living in the seas. Large sea mammals would have also been interesting along with sapient/semi-sapient creatures not found on the eastern realms we all know about.
I know that whales exist in Lord of the Rings cause they're mentioned in the Silmarillion but I don't know what else there could be
Too bad the Gandalf didn't call down lightning into the lake. Calamari anyone.🤣
Nah man I'm not trying to get Lovecraftian diseases from eating whatever the Watcher was, it glows green in the dark and each tentacle had a hand on it 💀💀💀
@@ChrisVillagomez You can find them in Wuhan
Nice video and the music is great, please link us to the original track.
The tracks are listed in the bottom right corner as soon as it comes on ;)
Well, no. Gandalf wanted to go through Moria. It was Aragorn who wanted to avoid it and go through the pass.
This is just one of the many plot roles introduced in the movies.
I could imagine it being washed away after the dwarves recaptured Moria under Durin 7th in the fourth age. They would want full access to the Doors of Durin and rebuild them, so the dwarves undamming the river and washing it away upon the river's release is a good way to get rid of it.
It's Tom Bombadil's lost pet.
Merry Christmas to all and even Middle Earth.
It's a shoggoth.
Merry Christmas!
I think the reason that the Watch was drawn to the One Ring is that the evil in the One Ring ultimately has its source in Melkor's Ring, as does the Watcher have its source of evil in Melkor, probably during the Ainulindalë. Nothing else makes sense to me.
Interesting perspective 👍🏼
I don't quite understand what you mean. To say that the One Ring has its ultimate source in Melkor's Ring is arguably correct, since "Morgoth's Ring" is a metaphorical description of all of Arda. Thus anything made of physical matter in the world has a link to "Morgoth's Ring".
But how do you mean it?
@@MysteriesOfWesternesse
This is my take on where the power of the One Ring originated.
In the Ainulindalë, Morgoth and like-minded Ainur seeded Arda with evil, so Arda itself is saturated with evil power. I believe Sauron was able to extract this evil power to add to his own evil power, therefore giving him more power than any Maia had a right to have.
In my mind, it is ridiculous to think that the Ring itself simply enhanced Sauron's already-existing powers. The Ring by itself is just gold. Then the power inside the Ring is only Sauron's. He is a powerful Maia but no way he should have Valar level powers. But if he can draw Morgoth's Valar-like powers, then he can enhance his own power and become god-like being that we know him to be after the making of the One Ring.
Following that theory, I believe this same power exists in the Watcher in the Water. Also, if I am right, I also don't think the Watcher intended to kill Frodo. I think it grabbed Frodo to take a look at a kindred soul. Anyway, that is my theory of this part of the lore.
Aha! Yes, if you start with that postulation, then that is indeed a logical outcome. However, there is room for debate about how exactly the ring itself functioned
The fellowship was unable to fly to mount doom because the eagles would be attacked by the Nazgûl
Merry Christmas!
Instead of the Fellowship taking the eagles to Mordor, how about Thorin's Company taking the Eagles to Erebor after being rescued from the Wargs??
It is said in other texts that the eagles didn’t want to and/or it was difficult for them to carry the weight long distances. Gwaihir was repaying a debt to Gandalf when he carried him from Isengard.
Merry Christmas!
Shadow of Mordor artwork. Bravo.
A tentacle shouldn't have a hand on the end of it. Just sayin'....
I'm still confused by the book description, how literal is "finger"...?
@@Crafty_Spirit
I think if you look at how a tentacle actually works, you could say it wraps its finger around something because it curls around like a finger does, only longer. That is how I interpreted it.
The quote from the book is:
"Out from the water a long sinuous tentacle had crawled; it was pale-green and luminous and wet. Its fingered end had hold of Frodo’s foot, and was dragging him into the water. Sam on his knees was now slashing at it with a knife." - FotR, A Journey in the Dark, p.402
So it's not quite a hand, but more implying something like multiple endings to a single tentacle
Merry Christmas! As always love your videos, such amazing lore content! Just wondering, what is the music you use at the 2:00 minute mark?
It is in the bottom right: Etienne Roussel - Dark Shadow ;)
Merry Christmas to you too!
@@MysteriesOfWesternesse thanks so much, been looking for this for a while now!
Didn't they say somewhere that it was either elves or men that dammed the Sirannon?
I don't think it says anywhere who dammed up the water. It could've been the Watcher in the Water itself.
Aww so the watcher is just a baby demon, such a cutie
Pleased to meet you, Mr Mysteries.