Story 2 feels to me to be a major case of "don't bite the hand that feeds". Sister treated the person who had built up her career as something to be ashamed of and to not want around and the OP acted in kind by tearing away all the things she had helped her sister with in that career. The sister wouldn't be where she was at that point without OP so if she throws OP to the side so too goes the business OP basically made for her.
It's a terrible thing when a sibling finally let you know how they truly feel about you even when you've been good to them. To destroy and to dispose of all of her work was a snap out, but honestly there is no going back after that.
@@4bibimimi I haven't seen my entire family since September 2010, after over hearing a conversation between my mother and brother in which he instructed her to only split inheritance between him and my younger brother because - verbatim "Neville's not worthy of any inheritance because all he would do is spend it on drugs and alcohol". Which is interesting because he was the one dealing with drugs, and blowing his money on prostitutes. He was confronted about this lie, and manipulation tactic, and it then became rather evident that he had been going around spreading falsehoods about me for years. My mother was trying to get me to be a controlling party of her inheritance from her husband, when my brother had tried taking possession of the house he left her, then tried getting access to the money from the sale of the house. She had become scared of him, so wanted me to be her power of attorney, so her funds couldn't be accessed by him. Mind you, he was leading a double life, only I knew about, plus was on $240K+ working in the mining industry, while selling contraband, getting around $10K every 2 months for years. I am so glad to be away from those liars in my family and the associated gaslighting, I went through for decades. I'm now 53 and only my life since leaving the family has been peaceful and devoid of mind games. No longer do I continually have to put up with the BS, from a family full of borderline personality disorders. Brother and father are narcisists and my mother is a bipolar psychopath, while I'm high functioning autistic. All clinically diagnosed due to the problems in the family for over 40 years. I hate them all, for the crap I've been forced to deal with. Youngest brother is the only one that is normal.
@Gabrielle B Op did pay for the goods with some of her funds plus her time. I would do exactly the same after finding out I had been used by someone that couldn't stand the sight of me, and totally disregarded everything I had done for them.
@@rogerramjet6429 I feel like the poor OP got very harsh judgement without acknowledgement of how awful what their sister did and I think was justified to remove “their work” on all the social media side BUT throwing out the sewing machine, material and orders since they were the sister’s property. I realise they probably lashed out and wanted to create as much hurt as the sister caused them. TBH managing and maintaining a professional “ brand” presence online is a significant part of running a business and OP removing their support/work will quickly make the sister realise how much they contributed. It’s a pretty disgusting to be so shallow and uncaring to shame a family member for something they have no control over so glad OP going NC.
@@SnowyWolborg Exactly, I have no problem with the lashing out OP had... The sister earned this by causing the pain she did after receiving the gifts of OP`s help with her failing business.
Story 1: NTA. Your not obligated to take the fall and play along with their narrative because it makes them look good. And honestly that Girl needed to know what she’s getting into.
There was one a while back that sticks out in my mind where a mom was upset that her kid wanted to be a tree in the school play. That one was just as bad 🤣
That one wife is living the dream life, but completely ungrateful. Her husband is the breadwinner and does the cooking. She berates OP for airing the dirty laundry, but publically asks if they can be polyamorous?? She's a nightmare.
Thankfully they aren't married so no divorce needed. Just needs to kick her out coz she sounds like a monster. Fuck would love to have a partner that didn't mind doing all the cooking so I don't have to.
IKR? But they both work so he isn't entirely breadwinning, he just makes more. I'd be asking if she's having trouble at her frontline healthcare job if she's getting that bad.
Story 2, Op made her sister's business boom, she was the reason why her sister was making any money, so I think she was justified for what she did. Her sister uninvited OP from her engagement party because she didn't want her fiance's family to stare at OP because of their scars. That was shallow of the sister. If I were in OP's position I would have reacted the same way. OP was not a snowflake, she was angry and pissed, they had every right to feel that way. OP was the sister's sibling but the attention not being on the sister meant more to the sister. I am guessing the commenters who said OP was the YTA and ESH either don't have siblings or they are people who know or are just like the sister. OP is NTA. The sister and the parents are.
Story 4: NTA.. dump this girl. She’s ungrateful and a hypocrite. OP is gracious enough to cook for her friends and she talks crap like if she was paying OP for his services. OP doesn’t need them in their lives. She’ll miss their home cook meals when it’s over.
Story 1: so your brother manipulated and lied to his girlfriend, she confronted you, you told her the ACTUAL truth, she realized your brother is a mommas boy to a creepy degree and she put it together and left him? The dude ruined his own life by lying to and manipulating his girlfriend. This never would have happened had he been a good person and not told her lies. Not the AH
It was when OP asked about their future plans that the light bulb finally came on for her. That was the moment she realized she's always been the 3rd wheel in the relationship. She left John because she knew that things would never change as long as he placed his mother above her.
Guess we found the reason the dad wanted to divorce the mom is needed. When she shames op and her other sons for not doing as much as their brother it telling how big her ego is.
"If you wanted to be reimbursed for your efforts..." that commenter must have the emotional depth of a shoe to think this was about money. OP helped her sister massively and in return her sister tried to kick her out of her own home so that she wouldn't be seen by her future in-laws. Sure tossing all her stuff out wasn't exactly the right response but OP had every right to be furious after sacrificing time and money to make her sister's dream come true... just to be swept under the rug as an embarrassment because of an injury she can't help having. But trust Reddit to always have a high horse on hand when it comes to stories like this.
I think the most I could excuse OP for is deleting the social media accounts (or at least temporarily deactivating them), but I can also understand how much it would hurt and anger someone to care so much for someone else that they make sacrifices for them, only to find out that the other person doesn't seem to care about them at all, and I don't like to judge too harshly for heat-of-the-moment reactions that are fueled by completely justifiable emotions. To be honest, though, whatever the reasons, sister definitely sucks for asking OP to go somewhere else during the engagement party. No matter the reasons, I think it's incredibly rude to tell somebody that they have to vacate their home just so other people can host an event (also applies to housemates wanting other housemates to leave so that they can have family over or have an at-home date). The reasons make sister extra sucky, as does the background of OP helping her grow her business, but just telling OP that she can't be there when it's her home, too, is so out of line and, alone, makes sister an AH. Did OP take it a little far? Probably. Is she the only AH in this situation? Absolutely not.
@@caityjayde96 Since OP was not paid, the social pages remain his IP and can be erased or changed at will. Perhaps he should have changed them to "Don't buy anything from this horrible woman." That would keep him in the clear. He joined her in the asshole ranks by destroying her physical property.
@@Snipergoat1 I didn't say that OP wasn't an AH, just that her sister is, too, and that OP's A-Holery was understandable (not justifiable, but understandable).
My first thought when I heard about the GF disrespecting the soup-making, pastrami-creating and house-cleaning guy was, "Unless he's hiding something horrible, he can, as the quote goes, 'live with me and be my love.'" Hope they both find people who are more suitable for them.
Yeah, girlfriend is super ungrateful. The guy made RYE BREAD AND PASTRAMI FROM SCRATCH???? FOR HER???? he's such a keeper and deserves so much better. No excuses for her behavior, don't care if she's a front line worker, that doesn't mean you can be an abusive prick.
Story 2: NTA screw the Reddit high horses staring down their nose at OP shaming them for justified punishment. OP devoted time, money, and effort to helping their family fulfill a dream. This kind of familial love and devotion was repayed with a slap to the face. The sister spat on everything OP had done for her without question or hesitation.
@Gabrielle B Yeah I can't imagine treating ANYONE like they're some abnormal circus freak to be gawked at (and therefore hidden from polite company), let alone my fucking family who helped build me up to success. The sister and parents are garbage and sis deserved to have all the nice stuff OP did for them being snatched away. This is very much an example of why biting the hand that feeds you is always a stupid idea.
Ooph. I knew she was cheating on him just from her reaction to the soup and pastrami, and then got my confirmation when she suggested that they become a polyamorous thing. Dude just needs to leave ASAP
@@saratronus it’s a common tactic in cheaters to pick fights over the dumbest shit in an attempt to alleviate their own guilt by making their victim the bad guy. The fact that she proposed polyamory means she already has a “dance” partner in mind, and if she isn’t already physically cheating she’s at the minimum emotionally cheating
@@saratronus women generally don't bring up being poly unless they have someone lined up for it and how she's acting it's likely she's cheating and looking for permission
I feel so bad for that OP. His GF is a huge AH already and now everyone here is saying she is cheating or planning to cheat. That OP needs to kick his GF out now.
Story 4: NTA. I don’t care how stressful her job is, she does not get to come home and be hateful, and she especially doesn’t get to trash talk you to her friends. If she has a problem with something you make she needs to be an adult and tell you she’s not in the mood for that, not suggest getting a new man.
He's just as much of an idiot. She doesn't respect him because he assumed the submissive role in the relationship. She and any other vvoman he ever dates will always look down on him unless he very quickly changes his ways. She will undoubtedly cheat on him soon.
@@TheRationalist. Yeah I agree with you! He should beat her and show her he a real man and she should be a submissive tradwife that grovels at his feet
Story 1: NTA. John tried to make OP look like the bad guy and it back fired on him. His gf was probably questioned the number of siblings and John’s devotion to his mother. It’s better she found out now than later.
LOOL OP’s gf: **brings up personal stuff while insulting him to her friends** OP: **snaps back with personal stuff** Gf: **shocked pikachu face** Lol dude your gf sounds like a spoiled brat what exactly is she bringing to the relationship?
@@RR-VanityInKnickers More likely shes jealous of him making more money and having a better work life balance, so will trash him to lower his self esteem that hes "grateful'" for being with her
I’m guessing the sister in the burn face story must have been the golden child if her folks is alright of her taking advantage of people who helped her without demanding anything. Off course leave up to Reddit since they hate revenge and always tries to preach. I certainly would not apologize, but I’d send her a bill for all my help for her being successful to add to it. And the what is the girlfriend idea of “real food” this is the beginning of a toxic relationship.
I would have pilled the fabric up, doused with lighter fluid then showed the sister while saying "I created the success of the business, and I can take it away". Then throw a lit match onto it.
I think that too because how has the sister funding any of this if she's a college dropout and doesn't have a job. And I have a feeling that the fiance is only interested in the business because what else does the sister due. If op stopped the Facebook page she would start losing money again.
I think that the issue is that the OP went full nuclear immediately instead of being mature and standing her ground and saying “I’m sorry that your fiancé’ and family have some sort of issue with my burn scars but this is who I am. And I’m the one who stood by you and made your business flourish. You’re my sister and I love you and I thought you love me.” Give sister a chance to be ashamed of her crappy behavior.
As an Italian I always find it quite insulting when someone tries to act acknowledgeable about a culture they clearly no nothing about then get offended when they are corrected.
I would never help that sister again. She built up her livelihood and didn't ask for anything. To thank her, the sister treated her like an unwanted rash.
The shallow sister story : NTA. People feel they can treat others badly because they believe the other person is beholden to this standard of ‘not taking things too far’ when reacting to being treated badly. But they never consider what happens when the person they’re hurting person doesn’t care about taking things too far. If You go low and the other person decides to take it to hell, you have to accept that that’s the risk you took by engaging in mean/rude/harmful behavior. So the shallow sister gets what she deserves. I don’t think OP is the A for throwing away her things. People don’t owe you a ‘calm’ reaction when you cause them harm.
True, but if the not calm reaction includes violence or in this case property damage when the original harm involved neither, that just opens the door for legal liability or a forfeiture of righteous indignation in the eyes of family. Throwing away her property was a step too far. Deleting the pages, while damaging and still a nuclear option considering she'd have to start over from scratch would likely have less legal liability since OP designed and maintained the pages.
But, look what happened: sister said some truly disgusting things about her, but by throwing sister’s stuff away, OP put the focus on her own actions, rather than the sister’s words. This is why my advice would have been to *use her words* and call the sister out for the awful things she said on the spot, and spill all the tea about how she saved her business. With people like the sister, the only way to win at the game they’re playing is not to play at all. Don’t answer insult with physical destruction, because that type of person is very adept at making themselves the victim. Would the parents still have supported the sister? Probably. But at least OP wouldn’t have to choke out an apology to the insufferable b*tch!
I think that OP should have pretended to throw it all away/delete everything, which would both send the message and also leave the door open to give them back if there were regrets. Especially for the equipment, less so for the pages, OP has control over the pages and sister was an idiot for biting the hand that feeds... OP is making the right call in cutting contact, though. Sister deserves no more help. What a bitch.
@@lyndellrobinson3611 Going to a black ownwd business and calling everyone there an N word and calling them subhuman freaks doesnt involve violence or property damage. But I think it makes loads of sense, when I RIGHTFULLY get my jaw dislocated for being scum. You can scream freedom of speech all you want, but you're NEVER free of consequences. Some people will NEVER learn until they get to truly feel the consequences of their scummy actions
I feel sorry for John. He was the youngest and the most influenced by their toxic mom. Didn't help that he was alone with her for who knows how long. Sad.
The others had each other when they left. The youngest did what they needed to to survive. And then they ended up with Stockholm syndrome. It can happen in abusive relationships
Story 2: ETA.. just slightly. Obviously the sister sucks completely because if she didn’t want OP at the party I’m sure she would have made a similar request for the actual wedding too. It’s sad how ungrateful she is and OP had a right to be upset. Let’s see how her business grows without them. I do think OP over did it with throwing out material things though and should have just deleted social media.
Nah fuck the sister completely. Sis took advantage of OPs love and kindness. All sis had to do was ignore OPs involuntary burn scars. Just had to treat OP with the same love and kindness but that was to hard.
If it were me, I wouldn't throw anything away, selling it to recover my expenses for working for her. Sewing machines can be really expensive, and sis needs it to continue her 'business' so it would go last.
She is the AH. She just didn't like that her little feefees were hurt. Throwing away fabric is wrong since she didn't pay for it. The social media stuff, I'd agree to.
@@CocoCece08 she may not have paid for the fabric but she’s the one who made the sister’s business actually successful. Sister wouldn’t even have the fabric if OP hadn’t stepped in
Story 2: NTA. Ya maybe destroying her business was too much (I personally would have just quit and post something nasty on her page) but she was kicking you out because she was embarrassed by you. And honestly after all you did to help her I’d be bragging about you. But hey you have social media managing to fall back on.
Trophywife story: I have to wonder what OP gets out of this relationship. He makes most of the money, does most of the chores and does all the cooking. But what does the girlfriend bring to the table? She’s spoiled, entitled, demeaning, rude and nasty. She makes fun of and belittles OP in front of her friends, and apparently behind his back too. Her “jokingly” asking for a poly relationship is incredibly disrespectful as well. I hope OP realizes that her mean “moments” aren’t because she is stressed, she is just a thoroughly awful person and that’s her real personality slipping out.
Story 3: NTA and the husband is weird… really weird. The sister should be careful if he acts like this over a stupid argument and seriously walks out. The way she was blaming OP reminds me of how my mom would scold me for arguing with my little brother when he didn’t know any better and just a child 🤣 🤣
FYI pregnancy is NOT a disability ffs I worked all through pregnancy and walked hours a day for health. After I had my child I went home to a new house and had to unpack clean and care for my child. Divas having kids makes entitled children.
I have to partly disagree with you. For about a week or so during each of my pregnancies, I couldn’t breathe. I guess my ribcage was expanding or something, because I just couldn’t get enough air. It was better without a bra, but still not good enough. Not to mention the “morning sickness” that got much much much worse during the 14th week. I know he said she was fine. I just wonder if something else was going on that she didn’t mention. Or, she could have been entitled. Idk
Pregnancy is classed as a disability - a temporary one, but a disability none the less. It's a medical condition that can literally kill the pregnant person. The wife is an idiot, but you're an elitist asshole who seems to think your personal experience is universal and trumps medical definitions. You were lucky, but it doesn't mean you get to apply your experience to everyone else, Amberlee.
Omg. One of these stories reminded of a story of my own: my boyfriend moved in with me (he lived in another city) and was supposed to stay for a month (that turned into 4 months) while he saved for his own rent and gets a job. He knew that I just quit my job so we would be living off my savings because he didn’t have any, while we both get a job. Being this said, he didn’t payed rent, he didn’t payed groceries, nor utilities(it was a full invitation). I cooked for him, I did the chores (he helped me sometimes with the dishes because I did the cooking).. at first I cooked salmon, tacos, steak, chicken, but by the 3rd month I was running out of money (hell I even payed for his cellphone service), so I just cooked cheap meals: veggie pasta, tuna pasta, sometimes chicken. He calls his parents in front of me and tells them how he is tired and bored of eating pasta all the time. That ungrateful narcissist.. I got him a $700 membership to be a bike courier, I rented a $200 electric bike so he could work (this is something he demanded). Well, he never saved the money for his rent making up excuses (but he would buy clothes or UberEats for himself, or sometimes would buy things for me even though I ALWAYS told him not to buy me anything because I prefer that he saved the money. He still always bought them and then tell me how ungrateful I was and that he was just trying to do something good for me). If I used a stern voice he would call me “ma’m” or if I was mad about something he would called me “kid”. And that’s just about a 10% of all the things I allowed him to do. To this day he accuses me of everything he did to me, it’s so crazy and messed up that I find it hilarious (through the pain and trauma).
Ok. The OP who cooks , cleans and, cleans and is such an inventive cook needs to dump his GF and marry me! (Sorry Narrator... I feel like I'm cheating LOL). Now I'm going tho have to find a recipe for cassava soup.
The pregnant wife is a major AH. At 14 weeks a lot of women aren't even showing. In her own words she's had a great pregnancy. The other woman was by herself heavily pregnant with a toddler. The wife should've seen her, got up and told the husband to get up before he even said anything. She shouldn't have needed to be coerced to behave humanely.
I agree with you but what was with that last comment that woman just sound so irresponsible. not taking care of your body while being pregnant is not something to celebrate especially when you were having a difficult pregnancy. Lol wtf was that comment
@@saratronus hmmm I do not disagree with you it is important for a pregnant woman to care for her body but do keep in mind this lady might be a lot older, my mom also did bartending while being pregnant with my older brother until she was ready to give birth and back then the bar was full of smokers too.
Last story is weird to me in my country it's guaranteed that heavily pregnant women or women with infant or toddler were given a seat no matter it's not allocated or already filled. It's basic etiquette. Doesn't matter already sat pregnant women is not showing her growing belly in allocated seat she can carry on one of other passenger give the seat. I have given my seat in many many times.
It was the "I'm entitled to that seat!!!" that sealed it for me. She wants the perks, without any care for why those 'perks' exist. This is karen logic - better hope it's just the hormones otherwise it's going to be a long 18 years + 5 months...
Second story: If my sister did that to me for the reasons she gave, I would spit in her face and walk out of her life. You don't do that to family if you love them.
That Italian story was hilarious! Paul could have taken it on the chin and made fun of himself. "My whole life has been a lie!!" Then laugh. Poor guy is high strung. He probably speed thru some marinara lights on his way home.
Old fart here...I've got a mirror mounted disabled parking tag, mostly due to an old service "injury", that I only use when I actually need it (hip and knee wounds). If I'm actually hurting (not that often) or have something heavy to transport I'll park in a handicap slot. But most of the time, I don't even though I'm entitled to it, so that I can save the spot for someone else, plus it does me good to walk a bit more, if I'm only feeling a twitch and not actual pain. You'd be surprised at how many people berate me (several times a week) for having a handicapped sign and not needing it(?), but surprisingly no one has approached me for actually using the handicapped slot. But I have to admit that I sometimes feel self-conscious about it and actually limp a bit more than needed just to avoid personal questions. I've even thought of buying a cane.
Sadly, there are a lot of busybodies (Karens), who think they have to "police" whether or not someone is disabled enough to fit their views of who is "allowed" to use the placard/parking/seating/motorized scooters, etc. People need to learn to mind their own damned business!
Snow flake? Sister disowned OP because of scars?!!! The work and money OP invested would cover what was thrown away. Heartless witch did not deserve OP'S help.
The "Trophy" wife story, the g.f. had already aired dirty laundry by telling people about the cooking. Then the "joke" about polyamoury, how many times have we heard "jokes" or "suggestions" about it, that later one partner does it against the other persons wishes! Op said that lately she had been "different", op needs to consider if she is having an affair.
So I have one sibling that tells me I always have to be right. The thing is I don’t argue about stuff unless I know about that thing. It’s typically something about science that I end up arguing about. I’m a multicertified science teacher I’ve been teaching for 20+ years. It’s not that I always have to be right. I just only argue when I am right. By the way this is totally not including arguments about emotions and feelings and shit like that. I am often wrong on those things
I've parted ways with friends I met in 1985 and 1987, because everything I tell them was considered a joke or plain nonsense. Now those 2 have been married since 1990 , the wife has become a clone of the husband and will adopt his opinion on everything. Even when he is wrong, she blindly defends him. Over the years it became very evident that they just think they know everything, and totally refuse to do any research. It took working with him for years since 2005 for me to realise that neither of them where concerned about being right, they were just not interested in being proven wrong. Now they can live in their bubble, without me in their lives.
You are right about paying for your sister's stuff. And cutting her out of your life. Pay for her crap as soon as possible. I'm sorry people are so evil and shallow. Have a wonderful, blessed life
2nd OP - throwing sister's stuff she bought was a d move, but he was absolutely right to delete the social media on top of all that he should have deleted all the orders and accounts/book keeping software and sat back to enjoy the fireworks of sister's business going down the toilet again. She seems like a nasty piece of work and the parents barely seem much better.
That burn scar wedding story was an ESH imo, like I could understand op taking down the ads and then showing up at the wedding to spite the sister but throwing the rest of the shit away dragged op into the ahole category with her sister. I still side with op tho cause the sister showed how little she actually valued op, like their business would be in the shitter or over if it weren't for op but she is just gonna straight up be like "I would rather you don't attend the wedding" just because of some showing scars? That's messed up, especially with how she initially tried to come off as caring towards op by saying she was worried about people embarrassing op with the staring at her scar. If op dosen't leave that lady then he is a major idiot cause she is toxic af........
NOT THE AH!!! They basically started the sisters actual business from the ground up using their own earned & saved money!! Didn't see anywhere where the sister showed any appreciation whatsoever, not even a thank you!!! The only AH thing they did was throwing the stuff away instead of SELLING IT ALL!! Also, I'd tell that crap family "I wouldn't have to save up the money to leave if I hadn't spent everything I had setting up her business for free using my own savings!!!"
Story 4: My bf is the one cooking and he does pretty much the same things as her, and waw this is more than appreciated. He is truly an angel for cooking like he does, making our own breads, pizzas, french baguettes, and more. How does OP's wife can be so angry like that ? Making meals from scratch is a lot of time and effort. And yet, OP does it even if she is not ask to. She needs to serve her divorce papers... And be with someone who will truly love her and see the efforts that OP puts in pretty much everything she does so they can be both happy.
Snowflake???? How dare this asinine commenter call anyone this racist hurtful term. As for OP and his Selfish sister, I don't agree with throwing away her material or sewing machine but for sure delete all the hard work and money OP put into her social media presence.
I love it when XO breaks his composure during a story. I WOULD propose that we play a drinking game for when it happens, but we would mostly stay sober... LOVE this channel!❤❤❤
Story 2: Ugh why does OP have to repay when it was her money 💰 😤😠 I don't like the YTA and ESH comments when she is clearly not in the wrong and her golden child sister is!!!!
Story 2: NTA. You're going to tell me that these high horsing duckheads wouldn't do the same as OP? OP MADE her sister. They put in their own hard earned money just to see their sibling smile and not be depressed only for them to crap on their head and expect a thank you for the hat. Thats exactly what I would've done. Don't want me at one of the most important things in your life because you're embarrassed of me? You want me to hide away like Quasimodo? Fine, but you will no longer receive my help and you will start from square 1 as if you didn't have a sibling because that's literally what was just said.
Story 2 the commenter who described it as “leverage” nailed it. OP either helped her sister or she built up leverage, the latter doesn’t sound like family any more than what the sister did. The sister sucks and OP should run, but she stole material and equipment from the sisters business and caused irreparable harm by closing the social media accounts. Doesn’t matter that she didn’t get paid for making them if she never asked to be. Had op done that to any other business she’d be sued and the police called. Sis showed her true colors as did some others in the family. Take the inexpensive lesson and cut out the toxicity.
Sister revealed exactly how shallow she is by uninviting OP to the engagement party. Deleting the social media that OP created is understandable. OP destroying and throwing out the sister's material and equipment is unacceptable though.
Wrong! OP created an environment for her to to succeed...I remember this phase a minister liked saying 50+ yearss ago," freely, he does giveth an freely, he doest taketh away." That is what happened here...nothing stops her from doing the same...the question is, why does she feel entitled so someone elses work? Karma always wins! OP wins nothing is worse than eliminating spmeone from a gathering based on looks, especially when using that person for profit!
I feel so bad for the rejected sibling after all her help to set up the business but she is wise to accept that throwing it all away was definitely wrong. She shows great learning and willingness to grow. Her sibling dies not. Being rejected and insulted due to some scarring Is very cruel and toxic. Op deserves a good life away from their cruel sibling. Siblings business should fail.
Story 2. NTA. Given how OP s siblings reacted, it looks like this was the final straw regarding how they were treated. OP who is the one who gave her that business with their own time and money owed no apology after such abuse.
Story 1: NTA, wow that sounds like the mother groomed John to be a servant to her whims. Story 2: NTA, so she thinks OP is a freak yet desires OP's help. While you could say OP was wrong for throwing out the materials, I don't think so given the sister hadn't repaid OP, because no good deed goes unpunished.(Sis is 100% golden child and OP is the scapegoat) Story 3: NTA, they are both idiots. Paul was insistent on being right, HE thought he was always right. And the sister is being an idiot in love. Story 4: OP should leave this marriage. Seeing as the girl doesn't respect OP at all.(Also when someone says "don't air our laundry" they usually mean "Don't reveal I'm being horrible to you in private") Story 5: NTA and the wife is acting entitled to a seat she didn't even need seeing as their were other seats available.
I would 100% give up my seat for that woman when I was pregnant. Honestly, maybe it's just me, but I'd have done it regardless of how far along I was or how I felt. I'd at least have offered as she was clearly much farther along and struggling with other things. I'd ESPECIALLY have done it when I was just out of my first trimester and feeling pretty great.
Soup disliker: That soup sounds delicious, as does the sandwich. The gf needs to live with someone else who cooks the food she likes, and puts up with her disrespect without response.
NTA OP- The online thing you need say to your Sister is I'm Sorry- i loved you, spent money on the thing i bought to grow that business, and caring about you only for you to show how shallow you are and not gave a damb how you hurt me deeply! So no i will not pay back what I paid for and help her out no more! Don't back down and cut her off for good. You don't need give in to that petty Secreted Sister!
The last comment in this video that woman sounds so insufferable so she didn't take care of herself properly during pregnancy and that should be congratulated ???
Story 1. OP NTA. Sounds like mom and bro were telling her weird stories and maybe she had already seen some of that bro putting mom first. You telling her the true about your family was not a YTA thing it saved her life. She made the decision not you.
I love soup, and homemade pastrami on fresh bread sounds like a rockstar sandwich. I would have op as a house husband and treat him with lots of love and affection, and I can cook. Op deserves better.
Last story nta op wife is only 3 and a half months pregnant where's the woman was visably pregnant with a kid in a stroller that obviously trumps op's wife who clearly didn't like that, she clearly happy about about the benifits of being pregnant and less on being pregnant she makes this obvious when she holds her "bump" as she gets up, op better brace himself cause this entitled behaviour is only going to get worse.
Wait, what? I think OP is justified in the second story. The sister was basically throwing OP out because she was scared that OP was gonna take attention off her. This is one story where Reddit really screwed the fucking pooch.
Unfortunately it wasn’t OP house. Wasn’t it his fathers house? It’s not ok to bully and manipulate but OP could be sued for throwing out materials and telling judge “she was mean to me” won’t pay that lawsuit
It was throwing out the sewing machine and supplies that did it for me. They were both assholes. If he had just deleted the social media and told her off I would say it was justified because that would be an equal measure, he escalated the fight to the next level so they’re both assholes
OMG…..HAHAHAHA!!!!!! My ex-husbands name is Paul. And the marinara/Alfredo sounds like a brain child from him! Hearing OP call him out, was like he did it to my (abusive, narcissist) ex! Was so validating, even if it’s only in my mind. NTA OP!!!!😂😂😂
Story 1 I am so confused. Why is op Mr. OP, while his brothers and father are not? Why did the ex gf act like op was the deadbeat ex husband and father? Why did John call op a homewrecker??? Either way op is NTA but this is really weird
To the Dude with few weeks pregnant wife- be sure to take her back on the bus when she is way heavy months later on into the pregnancy & then after she gives birth along with a stroller just to see if she feels any differently about it. Most women don't even start showing until months into the pregnancy. A few weeks in is nothing. The baby is literally the size of a peanut. Her treating the other Mom the way she did is unforgivable & was truly heartless. Glad you were there to get her to move. Good luck on what you are going to have to be going through with this drama queen!!
At 14 weeks she’s in the second trimester and the fetus is about the size of a pear. Not disagreeing with her being an asshole, because she was, just pointing out she’s more than a few weeks pregnant.
I just SCREAMED laughing at the by that logic american for red is ketchup. Nothing funnier than normal peoples comments....well done XO for keeping yr xomposure and not scframing laughing like a loonoe like i just did...... thankfully the dogs are used to my random screaming laugjing fits....phew.
Pregnant wife: NAH, the wife wants people to know she's pregnant, but her need was not as great. Make up, because the new biochemical mix is probably more to blame than anything else.
Last story: NTA. 14 months? Seriously? She was with her partner and could easily be assisted by them while this women had no one and was heavily pregnant with a toddler. Do the math lady.. it almost feels like OPs wife was looking down at them.
Story 2 feels to me to be a major case of "don't bite the hand that feeds". Sister treated the person who had built up her career as something to be ashamed of and to not want around and the OP acted in kind by tearing away all the things she had helped her sister with in that career. The sister wouldn't be where she was at that point without OP so if she throws OP to the side so too goes the business OP basically made for her.
It's a terrible thing when a sibling finally let you know how they truly feel about you even when you've been good to them. To destroy and to dispose of all of her work was a snap out, but honestly there is no going back after that.
@@4bibimimi I haven't seen my entire family since September 2010, after over hearing a conversation between my mother and brother in which he instructed her to only split inheritance between him and my younger brother because - verbatim "Neville's not worthy of any inheritance because all he would do is spend it on drugs and alcohol".
Which is interesting because he was the one dealing with drugs, and blowing his money on prostitutes.
He was confronted about this lie, and manipulation tactic, and it then became rather evident that he had been going around spreading falsehoods about me for years.
My mother was trying to get me to be a controlling party of her inheritance from her husband, when my brother had tried taking possession of the house he left her, then tried getting access to the money from the sale of the house.
She had become scared of him, so wanted me to be her power of attorney, so her funds couldn't be accessed by him.
Mind you, he was leading a double life, only I knew about, plus was on $240K+ working in the mining industry, while selling contraband, getting around $10K every 2 months for years.
I am so glad to be away from those liars in my family and the associated gaslighting, I went through for decades.
I'm now 53 and only my life since leaving the family has been peaceful and devoid of mind games.
No longer do I continually have to put up with the BS, from a family full of borderline personality disorders.
Brother and father are narcisists and my mother is a bipolar psychopath, while I'm high functioning autistic.
All clinically diagnosed due to the problems in the family for over 40 years.
I hate them all, for the crap I've been forced to deal with.
Youngest brother is the only one that is normal.
@Gabrielle B Op did pay for the goods with some of her funds plus her time.
I would do exactly the same after finding out I had been used by someone that couldn't stand the sight of me, and totally disregarded everything I had done for them.
@@rogerramjet6429 I feel like the poor OP got very harsh judgement without acknowledgement of how awful what their sister did and I think was justified to remove “their work” on all the social media side BUT throwing out the sewing machine, material and orders since they were the sister’s property. I realise they probably lashed out and wanted to create as much hurt as the sister caused them. TBH managing and maintaining a professional “ brand” presence online is a significant part of running a business and OP removing their support/work will quickly make the sister realise how much they contributed. It’s a pretty disgusting to be so shallow and uncaring to shame a family member for something they have no control over so glad OP going NC.
@@SnowyWolborg Exactly, I have no problem with the lashing out OP had... The sister earned this by causing the pain she did after receiving the gifts of OP`s help with her failing business.
Story 1: NTA. Your not obligated to take the fall and play along with their narrative because it makes them look good. And honestly that Girl needed to know what she’s getting into.
Like a good little useless self owning mama's boy, John gets all liquored up and goes over to his brother's house to blame him for Wrecking his con.
I’ve NEVER heard XO struggle to keep his composure while reading a story like he did during the ‘marinara and alfredo’ one 😂😂😂
There was one a while back that sticks out in my mind where a mom was upset that her kid wanted to be a tree in the school play. That one was just as bad 🤣
For the record, Alfredo sauce is literally named after its creator - Alfredo di Lelio. The name Alfredo, consequently, means "Wise counsellor".
"I'm gonna tell some ranch dressing lies while I paint the town ketchup..."
I can't... 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I think the story just showed a lot of tomato flags.
"A huge marinara flag."
"American word for white is ranch."
I wouldn't be able to finish reading this out loud
That one wife is living the dream life, but completely ungrateful. Her husband is the breadwinner and does the cooking. She berates OP for airing the dirty laundry, but publically asks if they can be polyamorous?? She's a nightmare.
Thankfully they aren't married so no divorce needed. Just needs to kick her out coz she sounds like a monster. Fuck would love to have a partner that didn't mind doing all the cooking so I don't have to.
She had homemade pastrami and she went out to eat instesd because it was put between bread.... uncultured pleb
IKR? But they both work so he isn't entirely breadwinning, he just makes more. I'd be asking if she's having trouble at her frontline healthcare job if she's getting that bad.
Also that's not how polyamory works ... you dont choose to be polyamorous...
Yeah, what a hypocrite. As the comments said, why is OP even with her? She’s a massive cow.
Story 2, Op made her sister's business boom, she was the reason why her sister was making any money, so I think she was justified for what she did. Her sister uninvited OP from her engagement party because she didn't want her fiance's family to stare at OP because of their scars. That was shallow of the sister. If I were in OP's position I would have reacted the same way. OP was not a snowflake, she was angry and pissed, they had every right to feel that way. OP was the sister's sibling but the attention not being on the sister meant more to the sister. I am guessing the commenters who said OP was the YTA and ESH either don't have siblings or they are people who know or are just like the sister. OP is NTA. The sister and the parents are.
Story 4: NTA.. dump this girl. She’s ungrateful and a hypocrite. OP is gracious enough to cook for her friends and she talks crap like if she was paying OP for his services. OP doesn’t need them in their lives. She’ll miss their home cook meals when it’s over.
Story 1: so your brother manipulated and lied to his girlfriend, she confronted you, you told her the ACTUAL truth, she realized your brother is a mommas boy to a creepy degree and she put it together and left him?
The dude ruined his own life by lying to and manipulating his girlfriend. This never would have happened had he been a good person and not told her lies.
Not the AH
It was when OP asked about their future plans that the light bulb finally came on for her. That was the moment she realized she's always been the 3rd wheel in the relationship. She left John because she knew that things would never change as long as he placed his mother above her.
Guess we found the reason the dad wanted to divorce the mom is needed. When she shames op and her other sons for not doing as much as their brother it telling how big her ego is.
@@MrJpaynebb and mommy and john are now pissed they lost their free live-in maid because that's al the gf would ever be if she married john
"If you wanted to be reimbursed for your efforts..." that commenter must have the emotional depth of a shoe to think this was about money. OP helped her sister massively and in return her sister tried to kick her out of her own home so that she wouldn't be seen by her future in-laws. Sure tossing all her stuff out wasn't exactly the right response but OP had every right to be furious after sacrificing time and money to make her sister's dream come true... just to be swept under the rug as an embarrassment because of an injury she can't help having. But trust Reddit to always have a high horse on hand when it comes to stories like this.
I think the most I could excuse OP for is deleting the social media accounts (or at least temporarily deactivating them), but I can also understand how much it would hurt and anger someone to care so much for someone else that they make sacrifices for them, only to find out that the other person doesn't seem to care about them at all, and I don't like to judge too harshly for heat-of-the-moment reactions that are fueled by completely justifiable emotions.
To be honest, though, whatever the reasons, sister definitely sucks for asking OP to go somewhere else during the engagement party. No matter the reasons, I think it's incredibly rude to tell somebody that they have to vacate their home just so other people can host an event (also applies to housemates wanting other housemates to leave so that they can have family over or have an at-home date). The reasons make sister extra sucky, as does the background of OP helping her grow her business, but just telling OP that she can't be there when it's her home, too, is so out of line and, alone, makes sister an AH.
Did OP take it a little far? Probably. Is she the only AH in this situation? Absolutely not.
@@caityjayde96 Since OP was not paid, the social pages remain his IP and can be erased or changed at will. Perhaps he should have changed them to "Don't buy anything from this horrible woman." That would keep him in the clear. He joined her in the asshole ranks by destroying her physical property.
@@Snipergoat1 I didn't say that OP wasn't an AH, just that her sister is, too, and that OP's A-Holery was understandable (not justifiable, but understandable).
My first thought when I heard about the GF disrespecting the soup-making, pastrami-creating and house-cleaning guy was, "Unless he's hiding something horrible, he can, as the quote goes, 'live with me and be my love.'" Hope they both find people who are more suitable for them.
the GF is huge AH and I hope OP gets rid of her, if not only for that polyamory hint.
Yeah, girlfriend is super ungrateful. The guy made RYE BREAD AND PASTRAMI FROM SCRATCH???? FOR HER???? he's such a keeper and deserves so much better. No excuses for her behavior, don't care if she's a front line worker, that doesn't mean you can be an abusive prick.
Story 2: NTA screw the Reddit high horses staring down their nose at OP shaming them for justified punishment. OP devoted time, money, and effort to helping their family fulfill a dream. This kind of familial love and devotion was repayed with a slap to the face. The sister spat on everything OP had done for her without question or hesitation.
Agreed 100% , the sister is disgusting and same for the parents.
@Gabrielle B Yeah I can't imagine treating ANYONE like they're some abnormal circus freak to be gawked at (and therefore hidden from polite company), let alone my fucking family who helped build me up to success. The sister and parents are garbage and sis deserved to have all the nice stuff OP did for them being snatched away. This is very much an example of why biting the hand that feeds you is always a stupid idea.
Ooph. I knew she was cheating on him just from her reaction to the soup and pastrami, and then got my confirmation when she suggested that they become a polyamorous thing. Dude just needs to leave ASAP
Wish there were an update to this one. Guy needs to run.
Am I missing something where did it say she cheated on him ???
@@saratronus it’s a common tactic in cheaters to pick fights over the dumbest shit in an attempt to alleviate their own guilt by making their victim the bad guy. The fact that she proposed polyamory means she already has a “dance” partner in mind, and if she isn’t already physically cheating she’s at the minimum emotionally cheating
@@saratronus women generally don't bring up being poly unless they have someone lined up for it and how she's acting it's likely she's cheating and looking for permission
I feel so bad for that OP. His GF is a huge AH already and now everyone here is saying she is cheating or planning to cheat. That OP needs to kick his GF out now.
Story 4: NTA. I don’t care how stressful her job is, she does not get to come home and be hateful, and she especially doesn’t get to trash talk you to her friends. If she has a problem with something you make she needs to be an adult and tell you she’s not in the mood for that, not suggest getting a new man.
I agree. She really is a horrid person.
He's just as much of an idiot. She doesn't respect him because he assumed the submissive role in the relationship. She and any other vvoman he ever dates will always look down on him unless he very quickly changes his ways. She will undoubtedly cheat on him soon.
@@TheRationalist. If she hasn't already, re. POLYAMOURY "joke".
@@TheRationalist. what is the submissive role? Do you mean that she barks orders and he jumps to it?
@@TheRationalist. Yeah I agree with you! He should beat her and show her he a real man and she should be a submissive tradwife that grovels at his feet
S2: NTA. Maybe here me out.. DONT INSULT THE HAND THAT FEEDS YOU. Op did all the work. The sister would be NO WHERE with out Op.
Story 1: NTA. John tried to make OP look like the bad guy and it back fired on him. His gf was probably questioned the number of siblings and John’s devotion to his mother. It’s better she found out now than later.
LOOL
OP’s gf: **brings up personal stuff while insulting him to her friends**
OP: **snaps back with personal stuff**
Gf: **shocked pikachu face**
Lol dude your gf sounds like a spoiled brat
what exactly is she bringing to the relationship?
I was thinking it better be the best sex he's ever had but decided even that didn't seem worth it ...
@@RR-VanityInKnickers More likely shes jealous of him making more money and having a better work life balance, so will trash him to lower his self esteem that hes "grateful'" for being with her
Yea she sounds awful 😖.
I’m guessing the sister in the burn face story must have been the golden child if her folks is alright of her taking advantage of people who helped her without demanding anything. Off course leave up to Reddit since they hate revenge and always tries to preach. I certainly would not apologize, but I’d send her a bill for all my help for her being successful to add to it.
And the what is the girlfriend idea of “real food” this is the beginning of a toxic relationship.
I would have pilled the fabric up, doused with lighter fluid then showed the sister while saying "I created the success of the business, and I can take it away". Then throw a lit match onto it.
I think that too because how has the sister funding any of this if she's a college dropout and doesn't have a job. And I have a feeling that the fiance is only interested in the business because what else does the sister due. If op stopped the Facebook page she would start losing money again.
I think that the issue is that the OP went full nuclear immediately instead of being mature and standing her ground and saying “I’m sorry that your fiancé’ and family have some sort of issue with my burn scars but this is who I am. And I’m the one who stood by you and made your business flourish. You’re my sister and I love you and I thought you love me.” Give sister a chance to be ashamed of her crappy behavior.
As a half -Italian New Zealander who speaks and understand a bit of the old language that Marinara-Alfredo story made me laugh.
As an Italian I always find it quite insulting when someone tries to act acknowledgeable about a culture they clearly no nothing about then get offended when they are corrected.
@@demoncat4721 I find it less insulting than funny. So I laugh at them.
@@briansmaller7443 true it is funny especially when they get the pronounciation wrong
I would never help that sister again. She built up her livelihood and didn't ask for anything. To thank her, the sister treated her like an unwanted rash.
The shallow sister story : NTA. People feel they can treat others badly because they believe the other person is beholden to this standard of ‘not taking things too far’ when reacting to being treated badly. But they never consider what happens when the person they’re hurting person doesn’t care about taking things too far. If You go low and the other person decides to take it to hell, you have to accept that that’s the risk you took by engaging in mean/rude/harmful behavior. So the shallow sister gets what she deserves. I don’t think OP is the A for throwing away her things. People don’t owe you a ‘calm’ reaction when you cause them harm.
True, but if the not calm reaction includes violence or in this case property damage when the original harm involved neither, that just opens the door for legal liability or a forfeiture of righteous indignation in the eyes of family. Throwing away her property was a step too far. Deleting the pages, while damaging and still a nuclear option considering she'd have to start over from scratch would likely have less legal liability since OP designed and maintained the pages.
But, look what happened: sister said some truly disgusting things about her, but by throwing sister’s stuff away, OP put the focus on her own actions, rather than the sister’s words. This is why my advice would have been to *use her words* and call the sister out for the awful things she said on the spot, and spill all the tea about how she saved her business. With people like the sister, the only way to win at the game they’re playing is not to play at all. Don’t answer insult with physical destruction, because that type of person is very adept at making themselves the victim.
Would the parents still have supported the sister? Probably. But at least OP wouldn’t have to choke out an apology to the insufferable b*tch!
I think that OP should have pretended to throw it all away/delete everything, which would both send the message and also leave the door open to give them back if there were regrets. Especially for the equipment, less so for the pages, OP has control over the pages and sister was an idiot for biting the hand that feeds... OP is making the right call in cutting contact, though. Sister deserves no more help. What a bitch.
@@lyndellrobinson3611 Going to a black ownwd business and calling everyone there an N word and calling them subhuman freaks doesnt involve violence or property damage. But I think it makes loads of sense, when I RIGHTFULLY get my jaw dislocated for being scum. You can scream freedom of speech all you want, but you're NEVER free of consequences.
Some people will NEVER learn until they get to truly feel the consequences of their scummy actions
I don’t think OP is the one who feels they “always has to be right.”
The guy who threw a hissy seems to fit that description.
I find when someone accuses someone else of "always having to be right", it's either accurate or projection. Take your pick.
I feel sorry for John. He was the youngest and the most influenced by their toxic mom. Didn't help that he was alone with her for who knows how long. Sad.
The others had each other when they left. The youngest did what they needed to to survive. And then they ended up with Stockholm syndrome. It can happen in abusive relationships
Story 2: ETA.. just slightly. Obviously the sister sucks completely because if she didn’t want OP at the party I’m sure she would have made a similar request for the actual wedding too. It’s sad how ungrateful she is and OP had a right to be upset. Let’s see how her business grows without them. I do think OP over did it with throwing out material things though and should have just deleted social media.
Nah fuck the sister completely. Sis took advantage of OPs love and kindness. All sis had to do was ignore OPs involuntary burn scars. Just had to treat OP with the same love and kindness but that was to hard.
If it were me, I wouldn't throw anything away, selling it to recover my expenses for working for her. Sewing machines can be really expensive, and sis needs it to continue her 'business' so it would go last.
She is the AH. She just didn't like that her little feefees were hurt. Throwing away fabric is wrong since she didn't pay for it. The social media stuff, I'd agree to.
@@CocoCece08 she may not have paid for the fabric but she’s the one who made the sister’s business actually successful. Sister wouldn’t even have the fabric if OP hadn’t stepped in
@@schokococoa575 that's- not how that works. She didn't pay for it, it's not her property to throw away
Story 2: NTA. Ya maybe destroying her business was too much (I personally would have just quit and post something nasty on her page) but she was kicking you out because she was embarrassed by you. And honestly after all you did to help her I’d be bragging about you. But hey you have social media managing to fall back on.
When OP said he started laughing, I knew that it was going to be a disaster for "John". Actually all that he did was point the Red Flags out to her.
Yeah. Build a house in lies watch it crumble
Trophywife story: I have to wonder what OP gets out of this relationship. He makes most of the money, does most of the chores and does all the cooking. But what does the girlfriend bring to the table? She’s spoiled, entitled, demeaning, rude and nasty. She makes fun of and belittles OP in front of her friends, and apparently behind his back too. Her “jokingly” asking for a poly relationship is incredibly disrespectful as well. I hope OP realizes that her mean “moments” aren’t because she is stressed, she is just a thoroughly awful person and that’s her real personality slipping out.
Story 3: NTA and the husband is weird… really weird. The sister should be careful if he acts like this over a stupid argument and seriously walks out. The way she was blaming OP reminds me of how my mom would scold me for arguing with my little brother when he didn’t know any better and just a child 🤣 🤣
FYI pregnancy is NOT a disability ffs I worked all through pregnancy and walked hours a day for health. After I had my child I went home to a new house and had to unpack clean and care for my child. Divas having kids makes entitled children.
I have to partly disagree with you. For about a week or so during each of my pregnancies, I couldn’t breathe. I guess my ribcage was expanding or something, because I just couldn’t get enough air. It was better without a bra, but still not good enough. Not to mention the “morning sickness” that got much much much worse during the 14th week. I know he said she was fine. I just wonder if something else was going on that she didn’t mention. Or, she could have been entitled. Idk
Pregnancy is classed as a disability - a temporary one, but a disability none the less. It's a medical condition that can literally kill the pregnant person. The wife is an idiot, but you're an elitist asshole who seems to think your personal experience is universal and trumps medical definitions. You were lucky, but it doesn't mean you get to apply your experience to everyone else, Amberlee.
@@Steampunkkids sounds like entitlement and there were other seats available. The woman clearly needed the closer seats more.
Good for you? Not every pregnancy is the same. You really shouldn’t act like such a diva
I wonder how long it would have taken for John's girlfriend to be posting on the JNMIL forums.... she's had a lucky escape
"Paint the town ketchup" 🤣🤣 hilarious
Omg. One of these stories reminded of a story of my own: my boyfriend moved in with me (he lived in another city) and was supposed to stay for a month (that turned into 4 months) while he saved for his own rent and gets a job. He knew that I just quit my job so we would be living off my savings because he didn’t have any, while we both get a job. Being this said, he didn’t payed rent, he didn’t payed groceries, nor utilities(it was a full invitation). I cooked for him, I did the chores (he helped me sometimes with the dishes because I did the cooking).. at first I cooked salmon, tacos, steak, chicken, but by the 3rd month I was running out of money (hell I even payed for his cellphone service), so I just cooked cheap meals: veggie pasta, tuna pasta, sometimes chicken. He calls his parents in front of me and tells them how he is tired and bored of eating pasta all the time. That ungrateful narcissist.. I got him a $700 membership to be a bike courier, I rented a $200 electric bike so he could work (this is something he demanded). Well, he never saved the money for his rent making up excuses (but he would buy clothes or UberEats for himself, or sometimes would buy things for me even though I ALWAYS told him not to buy me anything because I prefer that he saved the money. He still always bought them and then tell me how ungrateful I was and that he was just trying to do something good for me). If I used a stern voice he would call me “ma’m” or if I was mad about something he would called me “kid”. And that’s just about a 10% of all the things I allowed him to do. To this day he accuses me of everything he did to me, it’s so crazy and messed up that I find it hilarious (through the pain and trauma).
Ok. The OP who cooks , cleans and, cleans and is such an inventive cook needs to dump his GF and marry me! (Sorry Narrator... I feel like I'm cheating LOL). Now I'm going tho have to find a recipe for cassava soup.
Lmao the guy deserve better idk why he sticks around after all that crap
Story 3: NTA. Hahaha! Well isn’t that the marinara calling the rosso Red. 🤣
Second OP’s parents are awful. I hope they decide to move in with their sister
The pregnant wife is a major AH. At 14 weeks a lot of women aren't even showing. In her own words she's had a great pregnancy. The other woman was by herself heavily pregnant with a toddler. The wife should've seen her, got up and told the husband to get up before he even said anything. She shouldn't have needed to be coerced to behave humanely.
I agree with you but what was with that last comment that woman just sound so irresponsible. not taking care of your body while being pregnant is not something to celebrate especially when you were having a difficult pregnancy. Lol wtf was that comment
@@saratronus hmmm I do not disagree with you it is important for a pregnant woman to care for her body but do keep in mind this lady might be a lot older, my mom also did bartending while being pregnant with my older brother until she was ready to give birth and back then the bar was full of smokers too.
Last story is weird to me in my country it's guaranteed that heavily pregnant women or women with infant or toddler were given a seat no matter it's not allocated or already filled. It's basic etiquette. Doesn't matter already sat pregnant women is not showing her growing belly in allocated seat she can carry on one of other passenger give the seat. I have given my seat in many many times.
It was the "I'm entitled to that seat!!!" that sealed it for me. She wants the perks, without any care for why those 'perks' exist. This is karen logic - better hope it's just the hormones otherwise it's going to be a long 18 years + 5 months...
I'm off to tell some ranch dressing lies while I paint the town ketchup - That's hilarious 🤣
The bf who cooks special meals for his gf sounds like a treasure, his partner doesn't deserve him and his cooking
So to order a glass of red wine you ask for "marinara wine?" 😆😆😆
The only thing more vomit inducing is the idea of white sauce wine.
Second story: If my sister did that to me for the reasons she gave, I would spit in her face and walk out of her life. You don't do that to family if you love them.
That Italian story was hilarious! Paul could have taken it on the chin and made fun of himself. "My whole life has been a lie!!" Then laugh. Poor guy is high strung. He probably speed thru some marinara lights on his way home.
Old fart here...I've got a mirror mounted disabled parking tag, mostly due to an old service "injury", that I only use when I actually need it (hip and knee wounds). If I'm actually hurting (not that often) or have something heavy to transport I'll park in a handicap slot. But most of the time, I don't even though I'm entitled to it, so that I can save the spot for someone else, plus it does me good to walk a bit more, if I'm only feeling a twitch and not actual pain. You'd be surprised at how many people berate me (several times a week) for having a handicapped sign and not needing it(?), but surprisingly no one has approached me for actually using the handicapped slot. But I have to admit that I sometimes feel self-conscious about it and actually limp a bit more than needed just to avoid personal questions. I've even thought of buying a cane.
Sadly, there are a lot of busybodies (Karens), who think they have to "police" whether or not someone is disabled enough to fit their views of who is "allowed" to use the placard/parking/seating/motorized scooters, etc. People need to learn to mind their own damned business!
Snow flake? Sister disowned OP because of scars?!!! The work and money OP invested would cover what was thrown away. Heartless witch did not deserve OP'S help.
The "Trophy" wife story, the g.f. had already aired dirty laundry by telling people about the cooking. Then the "joke" about polyamoury, how many times have we heard "jokes" or "suggestions" about it, that later one partner does it against the other persons wishes! Op said that lately she had been "different", op needs to consider if she is having an affair.
So I have one sibling that tells me I always have to be right. The thing is I don’t argue about stuff unless I know about that thing. It’s typically something about science that I end up arguing about. I’m a multicertified science teacher I’ve been teaching for 20+ years. It’s not that I always have to be right. I just only argue when I am right. By the way this is totally not including arguments about emotions and feelings and shit like that. I am often wrong on those things
👍 I'm the same way. 😁
I've parted ways with friends I met in 1985 and 1987, because everything I tell them was considered a joke or plain nonsense.
Now those 2 have been married since 1990 , the wife has become a clone of the husband and will adopt his opinion on everything.
Even when he is wrong, she blindly defends him.
Over the years it became very evident that they just think they know everything, and totally refuse to do any research.
It took working with him for years since 2005 for me to realise that neither of them where concerned about being right, they were just not interested in being proven wrong.
Now they can live in their bubble, without me in their lives.
OMG! I had to laugh when you used ketchup and ranch dressing for red and white! Your laugh during these stories is the best!! Thanks for that!
I love this commentaor. It's so funny when he can't control his own laughter.
The idea that pastrami on rye isn't "real food" is downright insulting, let alone berating the person who made you dinner.
I am completely insulted already and only one minute in
Saved that girl from being 2nd to mom in the relationship in story 1. Definitely NTA
Chef OP YTA for not breaking up with that spoiled little girl
You are right about paying for your sister's stuff. And cutting her out of your life. Pay for her crap as soon as possible. I'm sorry people are so evil and shallow. Have a wonderful, blessed life
The marinara story 🤣🤣🤣.
Marinara flag!!!!! 🚩🚩🚩🚩
2nd OP - throwing sister's stuff she bought was a d move, but he was absolutely right to delete the social media on top of all that he should have deleted all the orders and accounts/book keeping software and sat back to enjoy the fireworks of sister's business going down the toilet again.
She seems like a nasty piece of work and the parents barely seem much better.
That burn scar wedding story was an ESH imo, like I could understand op taking down the ads and then showing up at the wedding to spite the sister but throwing the rest of the shit away dragged op into the ahole category with her sister. I still side with op tho cause the sister showed how little she actually valued op, like their business would be in the shitter or over if it weren't for op but she is just gonna straight up be like "I would rather you don't attend the wedding" just because of some showing scars? That's messed up, especially with how she initially tried to come off as caring towards op by saying she was worried about people embarrassing op with the staring at her scar.
If op dosen't leave that lady then he is a major idiot cause she is toxic af........
9:11 the reader was having such a hard time keeping it together and not losing it laughing while reading the reply 😂😂😂😂
NOT THE AH!!! They basically started the sisters actual business from the ground up using their own earned & saved money!! Didn't see anywhere where the sister showed any appreciation whatsoever, not even a thank you!!!
The only AH thing they did was throwing the stuff away instead of SELLING IT ALL!!
Also, I'd tell that crap family "I wouldn't have to save up the money to leave if I hadn't spent everything I had setting up her business for free using my own savings!!!"
You nearly laughing makes my day better. 😂
Story 4: My bf is the one cooking and he does pretty much the same things as her, and waw this is more than appreciated. He is truly an angel for cooking like he does, making our own breads, pizzas, french baguettes, and more. How does OP's wife can be so angry like that ? Making meals from scratch is a lot of time and effort. And yet, OP does it even if she is not ask to. She needs to serve her divorce papers... And be with someone who will truly love her and see the efforts that OP puts in pretty much everything she does so they can be both happy.
knowing how hard it is to make Pastrami from SCRATCH? even making the damn bread?
That is high level cooking.
You appriciate that kind of cooking.
Reminds me of the RUclipsr Joseph Weissman who makes home-made versions of restaurant/fast food places and compares them to the actual R/FF foods
Snowflake???? How dare this asinine commenter call anyone this racist hurtful term. As for OP and his Selfish sister, I don't agree with throwing away her material or sewing machine but for sure delete all the hard work and money OP put into her social media presence.
I love it when XO breaks his composure during a story.
I WOULD propose that we play a drinking game for when it happens, but we would mostly stay sober...
LOVE this channel!❤❤❤
The "ranch dressing" and "ketchup" killed me
Died!
Story 2: Ugh why does OP have to repay when it was her money 💰 😤😠 I don't like the YTA and ESH comments when she is clearly not in the wrong and her golden child sister is!!!!
Story 2: NTA. You're going to tell me that these high horsing duckheads wouldn't do the same as OP? OP MADE her sister. They put in their own hard earned money just to see their sibling smile and not be depressed only for them to crap on their head and expect a thank you for the hat. Thats exactly what I would've done. Don't want me at one of the most important things in your life because you're embarrassed of me? You want me to hide away like Quasimodo? Fine, but you will no longer receive my help and you will start from square 1 as if you didn't have a sibling because that's literally what was just said.
Story 2 the commenter who described it as “leverage” nailed it. OP either helped her sister or she built up leverage, the latter doesn’t sound like family any more than what the sister did. The sister sucks and OP should run, but she stole material and equipment from the sisters business and caused irreparable harm by closing the social media accounts. Doesn’t matter that she didn’t get paid for making them if she never asked to be. Had op done that to any other business she’d be sued and the police called.
Sis showed her true colors as did some others in the family. Take the inexpensive lesson and cut out the toxicity.
I’d send her a bill of all the services
Sister revealed exactly how shallow she is by uninviting OP to the engagement party. Deleting the social media that OP created is understandable. OP destroying and throwing out the sister's material and equipment is unacceptable though.
Wrong! OP created an environment for her to to succeed...I remember this phase a minister liked saying 50+ yearss ago," freely, he does giveth an freely, he doest taketh away." That is what happened here...nothing stops her from doing the same...the question is, why does she feel entitled so someone elses work? Karma always wins! OP wins nothing is worse than eliminating spmeone from a gathering based on looks, especially when using that person for profit!
@@Symphonia30 I agree she should be paid, but you agree to that ahead of time not only after someone pisses you off.
@@georgvonsauer2618 if you give something and the take it away you never really gave it to them. Which is why I agreed it was “leverage”.
Marinara lmao ketchup hilarious 😂
I feel so bad for the rejected sibling after all her help to set up the business but she is wise to accept that throwing it all away was definitely wrong. She shows great learning and willingness to grow. Her sibling dies not. Being rejected and insulted due to some scarring Is very cruel and toxic. Op deserves a good life away from their cruel sibling. Siblings business should fail.
Third story: "American word for 'white' is 'ranch dressing'."
Wrong. The American word for "white" is "mayonnaise".
No. The American word for white is Vanilla! Lol.
Yes…..two wrongs don’t make a right. She did you wrong, no doubt, but what you did was next level!!!
Story 2. NTA. Given how OP s siblings reacted, it looks like this was the final straw regarding how they were treated. OP who is the one who gave her that business with their own time and money owed no apology after such abuse.
Story 1: NTA, wow that sounds like the mother groomed John to be a servant to her whims.
Story 2: NTA, so she thinks OP is a freak yet desires OP's help. While you could say OP was wrong for throwing out the materials, I don't think so given the sister hadn't repaid OP, because no good deed goes unpunished.(Sis is 100% golden child and OP is the scapegoat)
Story 3: NTA, they are both idiots. Paul was insistent on being right, HE thought he was always right. And the sister is being an idiot in love.
Story 4: OP should leave this marriage. Seeing as the girl doesn't respect OP at all.(Also when someone says "don't air our laundry" they usually mean "Don't reveal I'm being horrible to you in private")
Story 5: NTA and the wife is acting entitled to a seat she didn't even need seeing as their were other seats available.
OMG - marinara and alfredo Paul 😂
I would 100% give up my seat for that woman when I was pregnant. Honestly, maybe it's just me, but I'd have done it regardless of how far along I was or how I felt. I'd at least have offered as she was clearly much farther along and struggling with other things. I'd ESPECIALLY have done it when I was just out of my first trimester and feeling pretty great.
"...a HUGE marinara flag..." ...hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha............ by the way, my name is Alfredo...
Soup is not real food... Excuse me??!!
She was holding her 14 week pregnant belly when she got up 🙄🙄🙄
Paul embarrassed himself…….ridiculous
Paul said stupid things, he won stupid prizes.
'I never rubbed my belly while pregnant'
Sounds like a Pick Me.
Soup disliker: That soup sounds delicious, as does the sandwich. The gf needs to live with someone else who cooks the food she likes, and puts up with her disrespect without response.
"As a huge marinara flag" I'M FUCKING DYING
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NTA OP- The online thing you need say to your Sister is I'm Sorry- i loved you, spent money on the thing i bought to grow that business, and caring about you only for you to show how shallow you are and not gave a damb how you hurt me deeply! So no i will not pay back what I paid for and help her out no more! Don't back down and cut her off for good. You don't need give in to that petty Secreted Sister!
The last comment in this video that woman sounds so insufferable so she didn't take care of herself properly during pregnancy and that should be congratulated ???
When you are wrong you go “really? I had no idea, well there you go.”
Good afternoon XOS. Thanks for the stories. Have a great day
Story 1. OP NTA. Sounds like mom and bro were telling her weird stories and maybe she had already seen some of that bro putting mom first. You telling her the true about your family was not a YTA thing it saved her life. She made the decision not you.
Your bro sounds so enmeshed with mom that he needs therapy to see what damage she is doing.
I love soup, and homemade pastrami on fresh bread sounds like a rockstar sandwich. I would have op as a house husband and treat him with lots of love and affection, and I can cook. Op deserves better.
Last story nta op wife is only 3 and a half months pregnant where's the woman was visably pregnant with a kid in a stroller that obviously trumps op's wife who clearly didn't like that, she clearly happy about about the benifits of being pregnant and less on being pregnant she makes this obvious when she holds her "bump" as she gets up, op better brace himself cause this entitled behaviour is only going to get worse.
Wait, what? I think OP is justified in the second story. The sister was basically throwing OP out because she was scared that OP was gonna take attention off her. This is one story where Reddit really screwed the fucking pooch.
Unfortunately it wasn’t OP house. Wasn’t it his fathers house? It’s not ok to bully and manipulate but OP could be sued for throwing out materials and telling judge “she was mean to me” won’t pay that lawsuit
@@amberleeannalee1999 it wasn't his sister's house either, so she should've had no right to kick him out, even if temporary.
It was throwing out the sewing machine and supplies that did it for me. They were both assholes. If he had just deleted the social media and told her off I would say it was justified because that would be an equal measure, he escalated the fight to the next level so they’re both assholes
Your laughter is contagious, you know that, right? 🤣🤣🤣
I love his laugh
The alfredo story was extra funny to me because my friends brotber is named alfredo, yes like the sauce
Oh how I cackled at "marinara flag" 🚩 🤣🤣😭💀
OMG…..HAHAHAHA!!!!!! My ex-husbands name is Paul. And the marinara/Alfredo sounds like a brain child from him! Hearing OP call him out, was like he did it to my (abusive, narcissist) ex! Was so validating, even if it’s only in my mind. NTA OP!!!!😂😂😂
Story 1
I am so confused. Why is op Mr. OP, while his brothers and father are not? Why did the ex gf act like op was the deadbeat ex husband and father? Why did John call op a homewrecker??? Either way op is NTA but this is really weird
Because his mom filled his head with toxic crap!
The ketchup and ranch parts 🤣
Pastrami Story: Damn! I want a pastrami sandwich now… 😔
I'd kill for a good pastrami sandwich. 😍
Can we get the guys from Lionfield to react to this marinara and alfredo story? lol
Story 2: throwing away cloth/sewing machine was wrong, but closing the internet accounts was fine!
To the Dude with few weeks pregnant wife- be sure to take her back on the bus when she is way heavy months later on into the pregnancy & then after she gives birth along with a stroller just to see if she feels any differently about it.
Most women don't even start showing until months into the pregnancy. A few weeks in is nothing. The baby is literally the size of a peanut. Her treating the other Mom the way she did is unforgivable & was truly heartless. Glad you were there to get her to move. Good luck on what you are going to have to be going through with this drama queen!!
At 14 weeks she’s in the second trimester and the fetus is about the size of a pear. Not disagreeing with her being an asshole, because she was, just pointing out she’s more than a few weeks pregnant.
I just SCREAMED laughing at the by that logic american for red is ketchup.
Nothing funnier than normal peoples comments....well done XO for keeping yr xomposure and not scframing laughing like a loonoe like i just did...... thankfully the dogs are used to my random screaming laugjing fits....phew.
Paul does know that Alfredo isn’t a big thing in Italy, right?
No one should be required to placate Pauls ego!
Pregnant wife: NAH, the wife wants people to know she's pregnant, but her need was not as great. Make up, because the new biochemical mix is probably more to blame than anything else.
I would smile 😁 and tell the future husband that he is the coming entertainment at sisters BBQ 🤣
Last story: NTA. 14 months? Seriously? She was with her partner and could easily be assisted by them while this women had no one and was heavily pregnant with a toddler. Do the math lady.. it almost feels like OPs wife was looking down at them.