Planting Complete Opposite Of No Till Food Plots!
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- Опубликовано: 6 июн 2021
- Planting Complete Opposite Of No Till Food Plots. There is a lot of chat about no till food plotting. To me, who cares. I don't follow the current hype. I plant food plots my way and its worked for me for many years.
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Oh no a thumbs down 👎🏿. Someone’s butt hurt I didn’t follow or go along with the current hype of no till. I guess I been doing it wrong all these years and only get sprigs of plants to grow. Pretty funny 🤣🤠🤡
bitter
Nah
Pretty sure there is more to the no till strategy than simply getting plants to grow
I watched this because I am a recent convert to no till, this video wore me out watching all those steps to achieve a field, with no till, you are in and out of a field in minutes twice a year. Time is my #1 reason to convert to no till. On tractor with a crimper on the front and drill on the rear, one pass and done.
No everyone has a crimper. I wasn’t wore out lol. This in my opinion is better then no till as far as achieving great results. With no till it requires a lot of chemicals like you said unless you have a crimper. I don’t follow the current hype of no till like everyone is following. There’s a lot of fails with it. But with that said it has its place there’s pros and cons to everything
@@Whitetailobsessionoutdoors Like I said I’m a new convert what would be the negative to it other than cost of the equipment which outweighs time and cost of chemicals and fertilizer over the long term
I agree with you that it’s faster. I just haven’t seen the major soil improvements from no till. I see soil compaction issues, chemicals issues, weak tonnage and your npk doesn’t penetrate the soil enough to reach the roots. With that said I believe no till has a place such as on steep hills, and rocky conditions. My job is to build the soil to the best of my ability. I enjoy the discing methods of working in green manure And allowing all this nutrients to reach the roots. Working in lime, npk and micro nutrients. This is my experience and experience I’ve gathered over 20 years. No till works bud it’s just not my method. Maybe one day I’ll switch to it especially if I was able to crimp it but for the future I’ll continue this way.
@@Whitetailobsessionoutdoors I was just curious. It takes time so unless someone did it 4-5 years before making a decision on it then just hard to say. I agree no crimper then no need in doing it. I'll have one in spring so I'll be doing one pass and done. I'll come back in 4-5 years and say how it worked out.
I see u planting the good clover ! That wti clover is awesome!
Awesome
Thanks
Awesome information, thank you! Just got my buckwheat and eygphtain wheat planted, waiting for germination. 👍
Awesome. Should be up fairly quickly with a little rain
Hey Dave I think this is one of your best videos so far I'm wondering when you said the buckwheat and sunflowers did you mix them or did you do side-by-side strips really interested in seeing how it comes along as always I appreciate the time you spend great job bud
Hey Steve thanks a lot. I mixed them together and spread them. It’s a good combo for soil health and also Feed a few deer.
You should use a cultipacker for small seeds like clover
Everyone always says should this should that. Been planting. Clover for 20 years used a cultipacker twice. It’s more soil dependent that just saying “should”
Hey man im from Michigan id like to start my own food plot 40 acres of private land i have a sxs what would my best approach to start getting ready for this years bow and rifle where I sit is surrounded by swamp but have about maybe 2 acres i can see from my tree stand i hope to hear from you soon i love how informative your channel is
Looks good. Is this your property or are you leasing? You are transforming that land into something great, lots of time and money invested.
Thanks. Multi year lease. One of a few
Hey Dave!,
One thing I'd love to ask is maybe doing the drone footage before and after as well to better show the layouts you guys create. It would help those understand a bit better in my opinion.
Yes I have that in some older videos. I usually fly it but I was burnt out and didn’t even think of using it this time. I actually have a follow up video coming tomorrow evening in regards to my last video that may help. I will also do more drone footage coming up in the next few weeks when things start growing.
Thanks for the tip
@@Whitetailobsessionoutdoors sounds good, can't wait to see them!
Sweet set up and area
Thanks a lot 👌
Great video, as usual.
I've tilled, but there were lots of weeds. Should I wait for regrowth and spray then retill before planting, or is it OK to go ahead and plant?
Thanks. Depends how bad it was and how well you tilled. Usually on a fresh field I’ll spray the first year then after that it’s usually
Not needed when you follow the proper steps with keeping buckwheat in there and winter wheat in the fall. In your situation I would possibly wait and spray.
What are you planting? What state
@@Whitetailobsessionoutdoorssoutheast Tejas.
Last summer/fall I sprayed and planted a mixture of beans, peas, sorghum, and later broadcast in winter rye. It didn't do super well, but did grow. Prolly a 4 of 10.
I was hoping to get a spring/summer then fall/winter crop of beans, peas, sunflowers, clover, chicory, oats, and rye.
I had broadcasted and cultipacked buckwheat about 6 weeks ago and it started strong but got swallowed up by weeds, 2 out of 10, so I'm basically starting over.
Is that field where you park your truck yours? If so do you do anything there?
Yes it’s mine. Don’t do anything with it other then access. To rocky
Hey that 40x10 wall how much of that incognito tub did you use for that.. Trying to get a fill so I don't under or over seed
I didn’t measure it but I set my seeder on 2.5 went one pass up and one pass back. Not much at all. I’ve done it so many times I kinda know how much I need just by looking at it on the ground. Do the math on that and you’ll figure out square footage.
@@Whitetailobsessionoutdoors 10-4 thank you
So since the rye was in its adult stage I'm assuming it was dropping all the seeds into the ground. Is it going to come back? I'm in the sane situation with my last seasons winter rye but I want to completely kill it. I was thinking about mowing it and then spraying
This wasn’t rye. This was wheat. It didn’t have seeds it was in the dough stage this is when you can kill it by mowing witch is what I did. You do not need to spray it if you are mowing and discing. You also don’t need to spray if you are crimping. If you are rolling it then yeah you need to spray.
We have some rye, wheat and oats that is 7 ft tall , getting mowed now though , crazy how tall it got all we did was throw it down everywhere back in like october just to see if it would come up and now it’s 7 foot tall lol so it’s getting bush hogged
Awesome
Do you spray your egyptian wheat with a herbicide? I have a little bit of weeds not much
No I don’t. A little bit will be ok
What’s your opinion on no tilling , I hear people say , (disking and tilling kills your soil and ruins it) but I haven’t ever had my soil samples show of anything getting bad from turning soil
There is pros and cons to everything. No till Guys will say discing the soil destroys the micro biome of the soil but yet they are spraying chemicals like crazy that destroy the soil.
My opinion is it has its place for sure. But discing has always been great and my soil shows it. Ask a no till guy to pull a soil sample and we can compare lol. Most times it will be very poor just from what I’ve seen
@@Whitetailobsessionoutdoors yes them using loads of chemicals is no different then turning the soil during a disking or tilling process , if there worried about soil health then they should consider not spraying
I’m that case crimping would be the way to go that way no chemicals needed. That would be the way to go if ever I go that route
How do you guys find land to lease?
Knock on doors, you can go through websites and lease land just be careful on what you sign. There’s a lot of different ways.
When I was younger it was super easy. These days it’s tough but can still
Be done
What was the lb/acre seeding rate of the rye last fall?
I did 150 lbs of wheat and 50 pound per acre of rye. 200 total.
Did you not kill the wheat , looks green . Will you not get regrowth ? another question Could you throw seeds and then mower over , would you get a good growth like that . Been wanting to try that ?
As the title says this is not no till. I don’t throw seed and then mow it over. You can go that route but then you would need a crimper or roller and would have to spray chemicals to kill.
This way mowing kills it. No need for chemicals
@@Whitetailobsessionoutdoors Yes I saw that . was wanting to try without a crimper .
You can roll it then you would need to spray
If I had oats planted as a cover crop over the summer and want to put brassicas in there, do I need to kill off the oats first and then disc in or can I just mow the oats and disc the oats in and fertilize and seed and pack without spraying? What would you do?
It’s a annual I don’t see any reason to spray them if you are discing. I never do. Weeds are going dormant by the time you plant your fall plot. When you spray them you dry them out and eliminate any moisture. I would mow disc and plant. That’s what I do every year and never have a issue
@@Whitetailobsessionoutdoors I love it. No chemicals makes me much happier and easier on pocket book. Thanks
Lol yes they can get expensive. Sometimes they are needed for sure. Each situation is different 👌👊
@@Whitetailobsessionoutdoors I'm about to plant brassicas here coming up in August. Was wondering about Antler grow. Should I wait to spray Antler grow around the time of planting or will that make it too attractive to where my brassicas will get wiped out? I'm planting clover, cereal grains and brassicas. What do you recommend I do for spraying Antler gro. When do I spray? Thanks
How large of a plot will this be?
Dave. Do you own or rent the pull behind mower?
I own it
I don’t have a tiller but I’m always curious, why do people who till worry about using a cover crop to prevent weeds if they till anyway? Wouldn’t it not matter?
You people?
Yeah it does matter. Having bare soil is stupid. It’s also called green manure. Without it you’ll have low cec and poor organic matter. It also prevents weeds! Having less weeds makes it easier all the way around and also cuts down on chemical applications
I know you get frustrated at times but don’t take it out on us. I never said “you people”...
I’m not frustrated lol.
@@Whitetailobsessionoutdoors well learn to read then?
Lol I’m
Multi tasking. I just read it.
how many acres you have there
105
crimp it
No