You ever use red clover, radish, peas. 3 weeks later followed up with top seeding wheat rye oats? Pretty much let it go til July before tilling, rolling or spraying it. Then replant.
Two questions do you disc your standing of buck wheat straight into the ground or bush hog first? Also what kind of clover and brand do you use for a perennial plot?
Hey. So yes I will mow it down first if it’s high and thick then just disc that right into the soil. For perennial clovers I use comeback kid from domain outdoors.
This might be a dumb question that you have answered in one of your videos... do you disc a clover food plot each year? Or just use imox and mow a couple times a year?
Loved the video- subbed. I’ve been looking for a soil building method with no chemicals. So can I terminate buckwheat with only my atv disc? (No spray)
Good point about weeds and pH. I think many people just want the easiest, fast solution. Building soil is the best solution. Frost seeded a blend of clovers into last fall's brassica plots today. Glad to hear you're busy. Thinking spring!
@@Whitetailobsessionoutdoors We saw this when we added lime-ash (50/50 ag lime and wood ash) to pastures. Way less milkweed and fewer thistles. Correct pH allows the desirable plants to outcompete many weeds.
Great video, 👍 and definitely right about the rising cost of glyphosate and 2-4D , it is half the cost of a food plot now at these prices. Lime is only 5 bucks a 50 lb bag here and a soil test is cheap too !!!
My hunting land is north of you (zone 4 ). People have told me that Rye is a better bet because of the colder weather. You have mentioned in the past that you like wheat better. I was thinking of doing a little bit of oats but mainly Rye and Wheat. Do you have any opinion on that ? The Rye is kind of a pain with how tall / aggressive it grows the next year. I would rather do wheat. The deer sure do like and eat the Rye at my place. Thanks for answering in the past. You have definitely been helpful while I am learning this stuff.
I probably wouldn’t do oats because they will frost out. You can mix wheat and rye together I do that sometimes as well. Rye and wheat are both cold tolerant I haven’t really seen a difference. Deer will eat the rye for sure I just believe wheat is more palatable. But anytime your planting a food plot it’s always best to have a blend. Maybe wheat, rye and some clover. No matter if it’s wheat or rye the following year it will get tall but that’s a good thing. That’s a lot of green manure for the soil.
when is the best time to plant buckwheat and how long do you let it to grow before planting fall annuals? Does Buckwheat need fertilizer or do you usually add fertilizer with when you disc in the buckwheat when you plant fall annuals?
It’s always what to follow a soil sample. Planting buckwheat doesn’t need a lot of fertilizer at all. Mainly the buck wheat is just there to help improve the soil. I typically try to time it where I’m Planting about 8 weeks before I plant my fall plots. You’ll want to catch it before it goes to seed heads
Yesterday in my new plot a drug a homemade cultipacker around before speading clover seed. I never sprayed for weeds but is there a chemical I can use that will be safe for my clover or could I just mow with the lawnmower? I plan on seeding with winter wheat for a fall plot but figured I'd hit it again with my homemade cultipacker before seeding. Any thoughts?
@@Whitetailobsessionoutdoors awsome great! I just went back and watched the frost seeding video again where you said that. I have a terrible memory sometimes lol. I thought about spraying with Glyphosate before since it's a brand new plot and I never tilled it but figured I'd try my new cultipacker (old bedspring and log chains) behide the old ford lol. Worked pretty well to knock the taller stuff down but I'll hit it with the mower still here soon after a rain.
Every situation is different ,I only use glysophate on brand new plots ,most of all my old plots have bare ground in the spring ,frost seeded then a light disc in the fall for brassicas or rye / wheat ,both channels give great advice just different scenarios call for different tactics ,you'll see once you do it for a few years.
For sure. I’m not against using them. Typically if you are discing you don’t need them. As long as you are keeping something green and growing in the ground year round. 👌
If you are starting a new plot should you be spraying to kill weeds now or wait? I’m in SC so it’s starting to get warm and I plan on planting in May for my buckwheat.
If it’s a new area sometimes yes you need to spray. Just depends. If you plan on discing twice a year to plant spring and then fall plots you don’t really need it. If you have the resource to spray by all means go for it it won’t hurt anything. Wait until sunny and about 60 degrees plus to spray. Make sure everything is green and growing
Good Morning - I typically just plant a winter food plot (winter rye/wheat) on an 1/8 acre section in the hardwoods. Would it be worth trying to plant clover this spring as a summer plot and then seed in my winter mix in the fall? There is ag land around where I hunt which will be planted with Milo this year. I would like to start using clover as a cover crop in hopes to shade out any weeds that might grow instead or spraying every year for my winter plot.
Absolutely. You could do that but clover takes so long to germinate and weeds would take over before the clover gets going if you plant in the spring. I would recommend planting a annual clover in the fall with the wheat or rye that way it will get a head start. Spring it will come right back
@@Whitetailobsessionoutdoors Sounds good. There are 2 other areas we want to convert to clover that is currently just grass, so I will use the same method on those areas. Thanks for the advice once again.
@@rrfeld1554 no problem. Just know if you plant annuals there job is to create one seed head. If you mow it in the spring it will kill it. So best to just let it go all year until the fall
What’s up everyone? Hope you are well!
Frost seeding this year?
Watch this 👉 ruclips.net/video/ZjLJ9iDSiNA/видео.html
Great video. As we discussed im getting ready for weeds...kill kill kill
@@andrebishop3173 that’s right. In your situation you need to kill kill kill lol.
No wonder people are confused, reading through the food plot pages on Facebook....😱😱🤦♂🤦♂🤷♂🤷♂👎👎🤔🤔
Yes that will definitely do it to people lol
Just found this video. What's growing in the screenshot at 8:23 in the video that looks like blades of grass? Is that rye coming up?
That’s all winter wheat and clover
How many pounds to the acre do you plant your buckwheat?
About 50-75 pounds per acre
You ever use red clover, radish, peas. 3 weeks later followed up with top seeding wheat rye oats? Pretty much let it go til July before tilling, rolling or spraying it. Then replant.
I’ve kinda planted something like that minus the peas
Two questions do you disc your standing of buck wheat straight into the ground or bush hog first? Also what kind of clover and brand do you use for a perennial plot?
Hey. So yes I will mow it down first if it’s high and thick then just disc that right into the soil. For perennial clovers I use comeback kid from domain outdoors.
This might be a dumb question that you have answered in one of your videos... do you disc a clover food plot each year? Or just use imox and mow a couple times a year?
No sir if it’s a perennial no need to disc it each it. Perennials come back every year
Use iMox/mowing to control weeds
@@Whitetailobsessionoutdoors thank you!!!
No one in Indiana on your schedule Dave? If I could afford it I would sure bring you out to the back 40
No sir no one in Indiana
We are a sleeper state I guess.. that’s fine more big bucks for me to manage
Absolutely lol
Sounds like a busy couple of months for you. Thanks for the vid. Timely for my habitat for my property!
Perfect. And it has been for sure. 🦌🦃👍🙋♂️🙏
Loved the video- subbed. I’ve been looking for a soil building method with no chemicals. So can I terminate buckwheat with only my atv disc? (No spray)
Absolutely. The only thing is if you don’t mow it first it will get tangled up in the discs. I mow it then disc it back in.
Great to have you back on, I was wondering if you were busy with clients. Keep up the good content. Thanks for sharing
Hey mike thanks. Busy busy man. Had some
Vehicle issues and getting a new property. Will be updating videos on that as well
Glad you're busy and glad you are back. Looking forward to the new property content
Thank you 🙏 👌🙋♂️
Hey Dave, what is your pricing for the land consulting? Enjoy the content. Thanks
Please shoot me a email
Whitetailobsessionoutdoors1@yahoo.com
Or visit my website
Www.whitetailobsessionoutdoors.com
Will do thanks
Good point about weeds and pH. I think many people just want the easiest, fast solution. Building soil is the best solution. Frost seeded a blend of clovers into last fall's brassica plots today. Glad to hear you're busy. Thinking spring!
Yes sir they do for sure. People want less weeds? Try adding some lime lol. Fix the PH and weeds will slowly diminish
@@Whitetailobsessionoutdoors We saw this when we added lime-ash (50/50 ag lime and wood ash) to pastures. Way less milkweed and fewer thistles. Correct pH allows the desirable plants to outcompete many weeds.
Great video, 👍 and definitely right about the rising cost of glyphosate and 2-4D , it is half the cost of a food plot now at these prices. Lime is only 5 bucks a 50 lb bag here and a soil test is cheap too !!!
Thank you. Yeah the cost is absolutely insane
Great information! The price of chemicals - ridiculous! Hoping for a great success with my plots this year. Thanks!👍☘🦌
Yes it sure is. Crazy! Hope you have good luck as well it’s coming soon
For sure, excited!😃👍
Can i spray roundup on buckwheat without killing the seeds of the fall food plot under?
Yes
My hunting land is north of you (zone 4 ). People have told me that Rye is a better bet because of the colder weather. You have mentioned in the past that you like wheat better. I was thinking of doing a little bit of oats but mainly Rye and Wheat. Do you have any opinion on that ? The Rye is kind of a pain with how tall / aggressive it grows the next year. I would rather do wheat. The deer sure do like and eat the Rye at my place. Thanks for answering in the past. You have definitely been helpful while I am learning this stuff.
I probably wouldn’t do oats because they will frost out. You can mix wheat and rye together I do that sometimes as well. Rye and wheat are both cold tolerant I haven’t really seen a difference. Deer will eat the rye for sure I just believe wheat is more palatable. But anytime your planting a food plot it’s always best to have a blend. Maybe wheat, rye and some clover. No matter if it’s wheat or rye the following year it will get tall but that’s a good thing. That’s a lot of green manure for the soil.
when is the best time to plant buckwheat and how long do you let it to grow before planting fall annuals? Does Buckwheat need fertilizer or do you usually add fertilizer with when you disc in the buckwheat when you plant fall annuals?
It’s always what to follow a soil sample. Planting buckwheat doesn’t need a lot of fertilizer at all. Mainly the buck wheat is just there to help improve the soil. I typically try to time it where I’m
Planting about 8 weeks before I plant my fall plots. You’ll want to catch it before it goes to seed heads
Yesterday in my new plot a drug a homemade cultipacker around before speading clover seed. I never sprayed for weeds but is there a chemical I can use that will be safe for my clover or could I just mow with the lawnmower? I plan on seeding with winter wheat for a fall plot but figured I'd hit it again with my homemade cultipacker before seeding. Any thoughts?
Yeah if I spray clover I would use a product called iMox it will take care of grasses and weeds.
@@Whitetailobsessionoutdoors awsome great! I just went back and watched the frost seeding video again where you said that. I have a terrible memory sometimes lol. I thought about spraying with Glyphosate before since it's a brand new plot and I never tilled it but figured I'd try my new cultipacker (old bedspring and log chains) behide the old ford lol. Worked pretty well to knock the taller stuff down but I'll hit it with the mower still here soon after a rain.
All good man lol I have a horrible memory as well. I forget peoples names badly lol
So you are saying whitetail habitat solutions is wrong on how he does his plots?
Did I say that? No. I don’t care what that guy does or anyone else. To each there own. This is how I do them never had a issue.
Every situation is different ,I only use glysophate on brand new plots ,most of all my old plots have bare ground in the spring ,frost seeded then a light disc in the fall for brassicas or rye / wheat ,both channels give great advice just different scenarios call for different tactics ,you'll see once you do it for a few years.
For sure. I’m not against using them. Typically if you are discing you don’t need them. As long as you are keeping something green and growing in the ground year round. 👌
If you are starting a new plot should you be spraying to kill weeds now or wait? I’m in SC so it’s starting to get warm and I plan on planting in May for my buckwheat.
If it’s a new area sometimes yes you need to spray. Just depends. If you plan on discing twice a year to plant spring and then fall plots you don’t really need it. If you have the resource to spray by all means go for it it won’t hurt anything. Wait until sunny and about 60 degrees plus to spray. Make sure everything is green and growing
Good Morning - I typically just plant a winter food plot (winter rye/wheat) on an 1/8 acre section in the hardwoods. Would it be worth trying to plant clover this spring as a summer plot and then seed in my winter mix in the fall? There is ag land around where I hunt which will be planted with Milo this year. I would like to start using clover as a cover crop in hopes to shade out any weeds that might grow instead or spraying every year for my winter plot.
Absolutely. You could do that but clover takes so long to germinate and weeds would take over before the clover gets going if you plant in the spring. I would recommend planting a annual clover in the fall with the wheat or rye that way it will get a head start. Spring it will come right back
@@Whitetailobsessionoutdoors Sounds good. There are 2 other areas we want to convert to clover that is currently just grass, so I will use the same method on those areas. Thanks for the advice once again.
@@rrfeld1554 no problem. Just know if you plant annuals there job is to create one seed head. If you mow it in the spring it will kill it. So best to just let it go all year until the fall