You can view the integrating sphere test reports at my website: albopepper.com/reviews-garden-products-SF300-SF600-linear-LED-grow-light.php PRODUCT LINK (# CommissionsEarned): SF300 (Don't buy if it's more than $73): ► amzn.to/3t4o06G (Amazon) SF600 (Don't buy if it's more than $100): ► amzn.to/3t3bSmt (Amazon) Don't let Spider Farmer price gouge you!!! _Check out my other reviews:_ *"1000" LED Grow Lights Shootout pt 1:* ruclips.net/video/g6n8VhVGKDY/видео.html *"1000" LED Grow Lights Shootout pt 2:* ruclips.net/video/WmjOSzSF-HI/видео.html *Spider Farmer SF2000:* ruclips.net/video/lK28aiRQ_Vs/видео.html *Spider Farmer SF4000:* ruclips.net/video/Cl5P3sKDQ0o/видео.html *Active Grow LoPro Max 320W:* ruclips.net/video/PCaesi_M5DQ/видео.html *Maxsisun MG3000:* ruclips.net/video/Tw6-w2gybgo/видео.html This UPS power station can backup a grow light! ► ruclips.net/video/h3sUUHCEqbs/видео.html Check out my *Grow Light Cost Calculator:* ruclips.net/video/aToYhyPZMVs/видео.html _Learn more about artificial lighting and plant growth:_ ► What is PAR vs ePAR Light? ruclips.net/video/kUpEQ4kU148/видео.html ► The impact of Red or Blue light on plant growth: ruclips.net/video/sfihE4IuFuU/видео.html ► To avoid Tip Burn: ruclips.net/video/gHWf4Hfi3hA/видео.html ► Light Cycles & DLI: ruclips.net/video/dQlOJ1zvoPI/видео.html
These would be really good for growing a few herbs in a kitchen setting. Would fit very well under a cabinet. Had no idea spider farmer came out with these. Glad a company is trying to expand options for people
I'm glad I was able to check 'em out and show them to you! Yes, herbs can be sooo expensive at the grocery store. These would be perfect for that. I don't really like cilantro, but I think cilantro lovers would get a fast payoff!
I appreciate the level of rigor you bring to these videos! It'd be cool to see a comparison of these SF strip lights versus the LED T8-size grow lights from amazon sellers like Barrina and Monios-L. The price per lumen on the T8 lights is really incredible, but I wonder if we pay for it in light quality or efficiency.
You would think they would add a few LED's at the ends and remove some from the middle to remove the intensity spot at the centre to a more uniform spread. Or am I overlooking something obvious
Love your stuff. 👍. Would be great see one of these breakdowns on the the best bulbs for strictly racked systems though. 👌 Looking at you microgreens. 👀
Great review. I wish I would have found your review a week ago since I just ordered 2 x SF300 fixtures. I was hoping I could use 1 x SF300 for 3x 10x20 seedling flats (side by side) but it appears this will be insufficient.
Just purchased 4 sf600's and 5 rack 4 foot long shelves. Going to grow spinach and butter lettuce. By next year because of the world and cost of fertilizer the price of greens is going to skyrocket. I will be doing hydroponics. Off topic ... Bought 300 lbs of wheat berry and wondermill to mill my own flour. Bought 1440 w inverter generator and propane heater, BBQ . Have a large pantry, 12500 cash and am preparing for what's coming!
The SF300 and SF600 appear nice for germination and cloning spaces, as well as side lighting larger plants. With the number of homes wanting more salad greens in their diet, your demonstration of using the SF300 to supplement window light would easily produce a moderate amount of greens. Thanks for your video.
Great review. I will be buying the sf600. just what I need to replace my t8 fixture that just recently died. I look forward to saving some bucks on electricity while upping the performance.
THANKS for this video on growing vegi starts on shelves! I saw one of your other videos on led grow lights and I appreciated the thoroughness & technical explanations, but I was wondering if it was mostly on lights that are strong enough for cannabis in grow tents, when I'll be only growing vegi seedlings to a reasonable size before spring planting, and maybe some year round basil etc. I'll be using two levels of a shelf / rack w/no grow tent. (I'm thinking of getting a rack that's 4' long and 18" wide from Costco, Trinity brand since we have one already & it's very sturdy.) While I don't mind spending a bit more for a powerful led unit that has a dimmer, I don't want to waste electricity.
Really helpful video, always love when you dig up the truth on these light specs. Would you have any other recommendations for a nice 2ft led bar with good output or do you imagine the sf300 would be the best bet for a small grow space?
My first of your videos, & wow, I'm impressed at the analyses! And feeling a bit crushed because I hoped to be growing tomatoes 'with abandon' with the sf600. So, could you please elaborate? Another subscriber asked about "micro tomatoes" & you responded should be fine if following what you prescribed (ie, centre, 3 or so seedlings (I can't tell what size those 3 pots are)). I'm not familiar with micro tomatoes...is that cherry or grape? Thank you in advance for clarifying.
Thanks for watching! The challenge is that tomato plants can get huge. Moderate sized plants will require a significant amount of light for optimal growth. If you have purely artificial LED lighting, I would expect to devote at least 100W of power from the wall using a decent grow light. If the plants are in a super bright window, then that changes things quite a bit. The SF600 would certainly help out nicely when supplementing natural light. But each grower may have unique expectations when growing a tomato. Outdoors, I was able to pull 100 lbs of tomatoes from just 2 indeterminate plants last year. Those micro-tomotoes are supposed to be some sort of super small plants, like a dwarf plant or something. The fruit might also be small, like a cherry. But the plant itself is supposed to be small. I tried growing micro-tomato seeds, years ago, and was not impressed. The plant still tried to get large. So I don't know if it was a gimmick or what.
@@Albopepper Thank you very much for that thorough answer. Got a bit more educated, to understand lingo (dwarf, bush, determinate) & also see the SF600 advertises itself re: "veg" & "flower" growth... (doh! to self) tomato is fruit of the plant. So...might be restricting myself to culinary herbs :)
Hi, thanks for the video. I have a question about the SF300 / SF600 PPFD charts. When you measured the distance, did you set the height from the top of the white light frame (wear the led strip is) or from the bottom of the white frame? There's about 1-inch difference between these areas. Thanks!
Glad I could help! I appreciate your support. I really wanted to test these for my tried and true fellow gardeners. And there was so little data on it. Now growers can make an informed choice! :)
@@Albopepper I am having a very difficult time finding a lighting solution for a very uniform light distribution of 300-400 par over an area of 48 inches by 16 or 24 inches; Economically and efficiently. Have you reviewed any led boards that contain 301h diodes or have you reviewed led boards similar to those installed in these light units, free of the housing?
The SpiderFarmer SF-600 is a decent linear-LED grow light. From the $60 plus dollar price range it sold for not too long ago, the price has just been raised to $109 dollars on Amazon, which makes it quite expensive for the footprint that this light provides. There are much better LED grow lights available at the $100 plus dollar price range.
@@Albopepper Ugh. Well now the SF-600 is $119 on Amazon! Thanks for this price context. I didn't know it wasn't a good value at that price. What would you suggest instead? I'll be starting vegetable seeds and growing them to a moderate size before transplanting out in my garden in springtime (really, not a euphemism for cannabis). I was thinking of getting a shelf / rack and growing on two levels of it, each shelf 4' long x 18" wide, NO grow tent.
Hey AlboPepper. When you mention "12 inch height" or "9 inch height" are you measuring from the diode to the sensor/"leaf"? or is it from the top or bottom of the fixture, and/or the platform?
How incredibly timely! I've been considering a vertically stacked indoor grow setup for small pepper plant starts in 1020 trays, and literally just found these on Spiderfarmer's website yesterday. Most vertical rack setups I've seen use fluoro tubes, but I want to use LEDs for their efficiency. Like you said, the T5 fixtures + LED replacement tubes are pricey. There just aren't any ideal products out there catering to this... I'd love something like a 60 or 100 watt LED board with the diodes spread out over a large 2 ft x 4ft or 3 ft x 3 ft surface that I can have practically touching the plants, but it doesn't seem to exist. These SF300/600s were interesting but still don't quite hit the mark for me. With the lack of room for height adjustment in a rack, dimming would be a must. The diodes are still too concentrated, with the centre too bright compared to the edges at lower heights. Of course they also feature lower quality components compared to SF's other lights.
You bring up some excellent points! It's nice to see some market penetration in this lighting niche. But the product could benefit from some enhancements as you mentioned. For some growers it would work out great. But spacing out that double LED strip would have helped with light coverage at those lower distances. Perhaps we'll see other options in the future!
Awesome! I'm glad I waited to release this until stock was replenished. They had inflated the price to $99 & I told them I won't release the video until they fix that price. I hope you enjoy it! Let us know how it works for you. :)
Is this as good as Mars Hydro 600 regarding having it on the room and not being bothered by the light, is the shadow good enough to not bother you around?
Your videos are great! I appreciate that. I'm just getting into all of this and started with succulents. I have an indoor built in planter with little natural light which measures 5"X40" with 14" of height clearance. I'm looking for lights and am pretty clueless. I have 5"X42" of mounting clearance for mounting lights. Was looking into led strips and most websites link to Amazon which leads me to believe their reviews are biased. And Thr magenta lights seem gimmicky. Do you have any recommendations? A nudge in the right direction would be greatly appreciated! Thanks.
Hi Al, could you please give a thought (or even review in a future video? :) ) this integrated home gardening system? "the-click-and-grow-25" from clickandgrow (seems that I can't post links) They use 2x16W LED lights and I wonder if that is strong enough or whether the lights are any good for growing leafy vegetables at all. I want to build something similar to what they offer myself with professional light and after viewing countless of your videos I fell in love with SF 3000 (or MG 3000) as it uses similar looking aluminium profile design. I thought I would take two out of the four for each shelf, but that still gives 150W - is it too strong? After seeing this video, I am not so sure about my choice any more. Is it an overkill for having the light 40 cm (15 in) above floor of the shelf (just like in the link)? Thank you
Great video! I was wondering if you think the sf600 is decent for peppers vegetative growth not sure how long I’ll need to keep my seedlings inside and if Its good enough for them when they get slightly larger before fruiting/flowering
following I grew my pepper in the Amazon seed light starting trying four weeks ago and I just bought and received my sf600 I will report back on the results
Thank you for your always profession/ academic content. I’m setting up for an indoor lettuce grow in a 12 x 24” EarthBox, in an enclosed 12” x 36” “side” space of a small ACinfinity 2 room tent. I have 46” of overhead. The SF-600 won’t fit my 36” space so I’m going for the SF-300. More than happy to Use your Amazon affiliate link to support your channel!
Thanks for watching Peter! At a distance of 6 to 8 inches it should do ok for 1 or 2 small micro tomatoes. If the room has natural sunlight, this would help for even better growth. I would probably try a light cycle of 18 hrs ON.
Hi. I really love your reviews, thank you!!! I am looking for a long type of full spectrum LED grow lights for my indoor set up in my garage hanging over a large raised bed (100cm x 90cm) to grow lettuce, carrots, herbs, and if possible under these lights, peppers and tomatoes. I see from your review that the Spider Farmer sf300 (or 600) would be great for this, but are they good, as their advertisement says, for flowering and fruiting of harder to grow indoor veggies like peppers, tomato's, zucchini, broccoli for example? If you were growing these together in a raised bed, how would you do this- so as not to get some (lettuces) leaf burn, while others like peppers close enough of light to produce their fruits? Is it possible to mix them or better to keep them separate with a different light source? I’m not using a grow tent, only tin foul around them to help keep the lights concentrated inside. I already have a wonderful shop light fixture with high lumens and kelvins for germination which works perfectly. I’m looking to grow inside throughout the winter. Is the 300 unit good for peppers and tomatoes or can you suggest other models- with affordable premium price range? Thank you for your help and for sharing your information! God bless, Pat
Hey Thanks for a nice review. I have 3 SF 300 since I needed a narrow formfactor at 60cm length. Now I am look at something for my Milsbo greenhouse from Ikea but its superhard to find some better alternative. Are there any good performing LEDs about 60cm with better performance?
This is a great review. I wonder though if the SF600 ought to be considered in a side-by-side configuration for a shelf with 4 1020 trays. Is there anything in the market that's more of a 4' x 2' or 2' x 1' form factor? maybe 2 1000 units hung end-to-end?
Thanks for watching! Right now I'm using 2 x 1000 units attached side by side and getting excellent coverage. They're dimmed down quite a bit, pulling about 60W combined. But they are covering a 16" x 25" area super well. Center PPFD is 600 umols. Growing some Elfin thyme and the plants are loving it.
@@Albopepper I ended up pulling the trigger on an SF rack plus the 3 SF600 units. They are all still shipping, but I'll let the community know how things go. And I might still grab 2 1000 units too. I mostly grow peppers in 5 gal buckets with a sub irrigation (grobucket) platform and I keep trying to overwinter them productively - or at least not kill ALL of them. :D
So I got a 4 bulb t5 powerveg 4ft that I use to clone and germ in I dont like when I have to put them under the led veg tent and they have to get use to the intensity and adjust accordingly would this sf 600 be a better option for a small 20 site clone box and little germ dome instead of the t5 power veg and then they would always be use to.the led lights thanks for any help growmies and the t5 has to be using way more electric
Does anyone know if the zeggwell 220 watt grow light is any good. I got it on amazon and if it isn't I'm going to return it. Please anyone who can offer info. I'd appreciate it greatly
Is the only reason to get this over a 100w square light the vertical space? Seems like the 100w tend to be more efficient, and give you a less cramped working area. I’m looking to use mainly with seedlings and currently have a small T5 unit, but am leaning toward a 100w square based on your videos. Thoughts?
I don't recommend buying these if the price is inflated. SF300 is not worth more than $73. The SF600 should not be more than $100. If the price is higher, then Spider Farmer is gouging. Don't buy it!
I saw the SF600 for $150 and was so furious that they're now exploiting customers. However.... Your question deserves a good answer. The SF300 & SF600 are a good form factor for window sills and narrow spaces. They're decent in shelves too, but the lack of a dimmer is a real turn off since you still need enough vertical space. When possible, I like the 1000 style square LEDs because they waste less light at the edges. Typically these are dimmable as well. And sometimes you can get 2 of those models for the price of a single SF600! For example, you would be MUCH better off buying two of VIPARSPECTRA's P1000 from this video: ruclips.net/video/WmjOSzSF-HI/видео.html You can dim them way down to use the same total power as a single SF600, but the coverage area would be even better! And they could be placed closer if needed.
Thank you for this clarification. I've watched all your led comparison vids and your advice to check current pricing was spot on. I picked up 4 Maxsisun MF1000s on Amazon for the same price as two Spider 600s.
Hi sir.. i have a request for you sir did you know about solar tube. If you have time sir can you pls try that if its work for lettuce or any other vegie plants sir thnx so much for ur video.
they should do a V-shape of the led-stripe to eliminate the hotspot in the middle and spread out the light. it would be a perfect shelf light then. (just few degrees would do it)
Thanks for this great information. I’ve got a couple raised beds in the yard, but really want to control conditions for things that bolt in the late spring-brassicas, etc. Great help for decisions to come. Thanks.
Awesome info! Was on Amazon just now looking to buy but couldn’t decide between 300 and 600. After watching this video, I know which one suits my setup better. Thanks!
Thanks for watching! This video was held up for release until they actually had stock on the SF300. Lights are a popular topic. But I want to do some other content as well. Out of curiosity, what topic are you interested in?
@@Albopepper Hi, 1st thanks for reply. 6, 5 years ago you're so prolific producing videos. [It help me starting my own vegetable garden], than almost stopped. Hope everything ok with you. Topics, could be anything, for example types of preventive organic treatments. Cheers
You can view the integrating sphere test reports at my website:
albopepper.com/reviews-garden-products-SF300-SF600-linear-LED-grow-light.php
PRODUCT LINK (# CommissionsEarned):
SF300 (Don't buy if it's more than $73):
► amzn.to/3t4o06G (Amazon)
SF600 (Don't buy if it's more than $100):
► amzn.to/3t3bSmt (Amazon)
Don't let Spider Farmer price gouge you!!!
_Check out my other reviews:_
*"1000" LED Grow Lights Shootout pt 1:* ruclips.net/video/g6n8VhVGKDY/видео.html
*"1000" LED Grow Lights Shootout pt 2:* ruclips.net/video/WmjOSzSF-HI/видео.html
*Spider Farmer SF2000:* ruclips.net/video/lK28aiRQ_Vs/видео.html
*Spider Farmer SF4000:* ruclips.net/video/Cl5P3sKDQ0o/видео.html
*Active Grow LoPro Max 320W:* ruclips.net/video/PCaesi_M5DQ/видео.html
*Maxsisun MG3000:* ruclips.net/video/Tw6-w2gybgo/видео.html
This UPS power station can backup a grow light!
► ruclips.net/video/h3sUUHCEqbs/видео.html
Check out my *Grow Light Cost Calculator:* ruclips.net/video/aToYhyPZMVs/видео.html
_Learn more about artificial lighting and plant growth:_
► What is PAR vs ePAR Light? ruclips.net/video/kUpEQ4kU148/видео.html
► The impact of Red or Blue light on plant growth: ruclips.net/video/sfihE4IuFuU/видео.html
► To avoid Tip Burn: ruclips.net/video/gHWf4Hfi3hA/видео.html
► Light Cycles & DLI: ruclips.net/video/dQlOJ1zvoPI/видео.html
Love your work!
Thanks for watching! I really appreciate your support. :)
These would be really good for growing a few herbs in a kitchen setting. Would fit very well under a cabinet. Had no idea spider farmer came out with these. Glad a company is trying to expand options for people
I'm glad I was able to check 'em out and show them to you! Yes, herbs can be sooo expensive at the grocery store. These would be perfect for that. I don't really like cilantro, but I think cilantro lovers would get a fast payoff!
I appreciate the level of rigor you bring to these videos! It'd be cool to see a comparison of these SF strip lights versus the LED T8-size grow lights from amazon sellers like Barrina and Monios-L. The price per lumen on the T8 lights is really incredible, but I wonder if we pay for it in light quality or efficiency.
You would think they would add a few LED's at the ends and remove some from the middle to remove the intensity spot at the centre to a more uniform spread.
Or am I overlooking something obvious
I agree. That would make perfect sense!
Love your stuff. 👍. Would be great see one of these breakdowns on the the best bulbs for strictly racked systems though. 👌 Looking at you microgreens. 👀
I am sorry if I just spammed your wall. I am having issues commenting. My comments don't send with an error or disappear after I refresh page.
Omgosh the quality of the video editing in this for a review is A++++ I'm looking for a shelf light for propagation and really appreciate the review
Great review. I wish I would have found your review a week ago since I just ordered 2 x SF300 fixtures. I was hoping I could use 1 x SF300 for 3x 10x20 seedling flats (side by side) but it appears this will be insufficient.
Could you pls review Sansi grow lights.... i am not sure if they realy are that good ...
Just purchased 4 sf600's and 5 rack 4 foot long shelves. Going to grow spinach and butter lettuce. By next year because of the world and cost of fertilizer the price of greens is going to skyrocket. I will be doing hydroponics. Off topic ... Bought 300 lbs of wheat berry and wondermill to mill my own flour. Bought 1440 w inverter generator and propane heater, BBQ . Have a large pantry, 12500 cash and am preparing for what's coming!
Nice!!! 😀
The SF300 and SF600 appear nice for germination and cloning spaces, as well as side lighting larger plants. With the number of homes wanting more salad greens in their diet, your demonstration of using the SF300 to supplement window light would easily produce a moderate amount of greens. Thanks for your video.
Thanks for watching Matt! I really appreciate your observations. :-)
Great review. I will be buying the sf600. just what I need to replace my t8 fixture that just recently died. I look forward to saving some bucks on electricity while upping the performance.
THANKS for this video on growing vegi starts on shelves! I saw one of your other videos on led grow lights and I appreciated the thoroughness & technical explanations, but I was wondering if it was mostly on lights that are strong enough for cannabis in grow tents, when I'll be only growing vegi seedlings to a reasonable size before spring planting, and maybe some year round basil etc. I'll be using two levels of a shelf / rack w/no grow tent. (I'm thinking of getting a rack that's 4' long and 18" wide from Costco, Trinity brand since we have one already & it's very sturdy.) While I don't mind spending a bit more for a powerful led unit that has a dimmer, I don't want to waste electricity.
Really helpful video, always love when you dig up the truth on these light specs. Would you have any other recommendations for a nice 2ft led bar with good output or do you imagine the sf300 would be the best bet for a small grow space?
My first of your videos, & wow, I'm impressed at the analyses! And feeling a bit crushed because I hoped to be growing tomatoes 'with abandon' with the sf600. So, could you please elaborate? Another subscriber asked about "micro tomatoes" & you responded should be fine if following what you prescribed (ie, centre, 3 or so seedlings (I can't tell what size those 3 pots are)). I'm not familiar with micro tomatoes...is that cherry or grape? Thank you in advance for clarifying.
Thanks for watching! The challenge is that tomato plants can get huge. Moderate sized plants will require a significant amount of light for optimal growth. If you have purely artificial LED lighting, I would expect to devote at least 100W of power from the wall using a decent grow light. If the plants are in a super bright window, then that changes things quite a bit. The SF600 would certainly help out nicely when supplementing natural light. But each grower may have unique expectations when growing a tomato. Outdoors, I was able to pull 100 lbs of tomatoes from just 2 indeterminate plants last year.
Those micro-tomotoes are supposed to be some sort of super small plants, like a dwarf plant or something. The fruit might also be small, like a cherry. But the plant itself is supposed to be small. I tried growing micro-tomato seeds, years ago, and was not impressed. The plant still tried to get large. So I don't know if it was a gimmick or what.
@@Albopepper Thank you very much for that thorough answer. Got a bit more educated, to understand lingo (dwarf, bush, determinate) & also see the SF600 advertises itself re: "veg" & "flower" growth... (doh! to self) tomato is fruit of the plant. So...might be restricting myself to culinary herbs :)
Hi, thanks for the video.
I have a question about the SF300 / SF600 PPFD charts. When you measured the distance, did you set the height from the top of the white light frame (wear the led strip is) or from the bottom of the white frame? There's about 1-inch difference between these areas. Thanks!
Thanks for watching! I measured from the bottom of the actual LED diodes. Hope that helps!
@@Albopepper Thank you!
Really great review 🙌🏻🙏🏻
Just purchased the sf300 yesterday happy growing ✌️
Great timing. I was just in the market for this type of lighting
Glad I could help! I appreciate your support. I really wanted to test these for my tried and true fellow gardeners. And there was so little data on it. Now growers can make an informed choice! :)
@@Albopepper I am having a very difficult time finding a lighting solution for a very uniform light distribution of 300-400 par over an area of 48 inches by 16 or 24 inches; Economically and efficiently. Have you reviewed any led boards that contain 301h diodes or have you reviewed led boards similar to those installed in these light units, free of the housing?
The SpiderFarmer SF-600 is a decent linear-LED grow light. From the $60 plus dollar price range it sold for not too long ago, the price has just been raised to $109 dollars on Amazon, which makes it quite expensive for the footprint that this light provides. There are much better LED grow lights available at the $100 plus dollar price range.
I agree! During the summer it was $85 which is much better. This $110 price is new and you should not buy it at that price.
@@Albopepper Ugh. Well now the SF-600 is $119 on Amazon! Thanks for this price context. I didn't know it wasn't a good value at that price. What would you suggest instead? I'll be starting vegetable seeds and growing them to a moderate size before transplanting out in my garden in springtime (really, not a euphemism for cannabis). I was thinking of getting a shelf / rack and growing on two levels of it, each shelf 4' long x 18" wide, NO grow tent.
@@Albopepper Does this SF-600 produce a lot of RF sound like Barrina lights that mess up the tv antenna signal and AM radio?
What lights you suggest izs spider farmer sf1000 beteer then sf600 fornthe price
Thank you so much for your time. You always cover everything I need for my plants. That means alot to me.
Thanks for watching! I really appreciate that. :)
Perfect video for my project, thanks!
Do anyone knows the exact type of osram white leds used in this? I got 2 burned out and wnt to change them but can't find the type.
Hey AlboPepper. When you mention "12 inch height" or "9 inch height" are you measuring from the diode to the sensor/"leaf"? or is it from the top or bottom of the fixture, and/or the platform?
Hi Alex! The distance was to the diodes. Good question! Thanks for watching. :)
@@Albopepper Won't the distance decrease over time as the plants grow? Do you need to adjust the height as they grow? Thanks.
How incredibly timely! I've been considering a vertically stacked indoor grow setup for small pepper plant starts in 1020 trays, and literally just found these on Spiderfarmer's website yesterday. Most vertical rack setups I've seen use fluoro tubes, but I want to use LEDs for their efficiency. Like you said, the T5 fixtures + LED replacement tubes are pricey. There just aren't any ideal products out there catering to this... I'd love something like a 60 or 100 watt LED board with the diodes spread out over a large 2 ft x 4ft or 3 ft x 3 ft surface that I can have practically touching the plants, but it doesn't seem to exist.
These SF300/600s were interesting but still don't quite hit the mark for me. With the lack of room for height adjustment in a rack, dimming would be a must. The diodes are still too concentrated, with the centre too bright compared to the edges at lower heights. Of course they also feature lower quality components compared to SF's other lights.
You bring up some excellent points! It's nice to see some market penetration in this lighting niche. But the product could benefit from some enhancements as you mentioned. For some growers it would work out great. But spacing out that double LED strip would have helped with light coverage at those lower distances. Perhaps we'll see other options in the future!
The 300 is just what I need. Thanks. I'm buying it now.
Awesome! I'm glad I waited to release this until stock was replenished. They had inflated the price to $99 & I told them I won't release the video until they fix that price. I hope you enjoy it! Let us know how it works for you. :)
@@Albopepper ....Thanks for the price. If I don't forget, I will let you know how it worked for me.
Is this as good as Mars Hydro 600 regarding having it on the room and not being bothered by the light, is the shadow good enough to not bother you around?
For these LEDs, are the 3 key parameters mainly determining efficiency? Color, Photo, and Electrical?
What about VG80 Mars Hydro versus these?
Your videos are great! I appreciate that. I'm just getting into all of this and started with succulents. I have an indoor built in planter with little natural light which measures 5"X40" with 14" of height clearance. I'm looking for lights and am pretty clueless. I have 5"X42" of mounting clearance for mounting lights. Was looking into led strips and most websites link to Amazon which leads me to believe their reviews are biased. And Thr magenta lights seem gimmicky. Do you have any recommendations? A nudge in the right direction would be greatly appreciated! Thanks.
Whatever you get, I advise AGAINST blurple colored lights. Get a nice white light so that you can properly see and enjoy what you are growing.
Thanks for the response. I appreciate it!
Awesome info ✌️
Awesome work you do here, always excited to see a video.
Thanks so much for reviewing these! Looks like spider farmer is listening to the "rest" of us indoor growers.
Yes! It's about time we see some decent LED lights that work for other applications. :)
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Excellent review my friend.
Hi Al, could you please give a thought (or even review in a future video? :) ) this integrated home gardening system?
"the-click-and-grow-25" from clickandgrow (seems that I can't post links)
They use 2x16W LED lights and I wonder if that is strong enough or whether the lights are any good for growing leafy vegetables at all.
I want to build something similar to what they offer myself with professional light and after viewing countless of your videos I fell in love with SF 3000 (or MG 3000) as it uses similar looking aluminium profile design. I thought I would take two out of the four for each shelf, but that still gives 150W - is it too strong? After seeing this video, I am not so sure about my choice any more. Is it an overkill for having the light 40 cm (15 in) above floor of the shelf (just like in the link)?
Thank you
Great video! I was wondering if you think the sf600 is decent for peppers vegetative growth not sure how long I’ll need to keep my seedlings inside and if Its good enough for them when they get slightly larger before fruiting/flowering
following I grew my pepper in the Amazon seed light starting trying four weeks ago and I just bought and received my sf600 I will report back on the results
Thank you for your always profession/ academic content. I’m setting up for an indoor lettuce grow in a 12 x 24” EarthBox, in an enclosed 12” x 36” “side” space of a small ACinfinity 2 room tent. I have 46” of overhead. The SF-600 won’t fit my 36” space so I’m going for the SF-300. More than happy to Use your Amazon affiliate link to support your channel!
Hi, thank for the video. Would sf300 be strong enough for growing small micro tom tomatoes on a shelf?
Thanks for watching Peter! At a distance of 6 to 8 inches it should do ok for 1 or 2 small micro tomatoes. If the room has natural sunlight, this would help for even better growth. I would probably try a light cycle of 18 hrs ON.
@@Albopepper thanks for advice
I would go for the SF600 or SF1000, instead of the SF300.
Hi. I really love your reviews, thank you!!! I am looking for a long type of full spectrum LED grow lights for my indoor set up in my garage hanging over a large raised bed (100cm x 90cm) to grow lettuce, carrots, herbs, and if possible under these lights, peppers and tomatoes. I see from your review that the Spider Farmer sf300 (or 600) would be great for this, but are they good, as their advertisement says, for flowering and fruiting of harder to grow indoor veggies like peppers, tomato's, zucchini, broccoli for example?
If you were growing these together in a raised bed, how would you do this- so as not to get some (lettuces) leaf burn, while others like peppers close enough of light to produce their fruits?
Is it possible to mix them or better to keep them separate with a different light source? I’m not using a grow tent, only tin foul around them to help keep the lights concentrated inside.
I already have a wonderful shop light fixture with high lumens and kelvins for germination which works perfectly. I’m looking to grow inside throughout the winter.
Is the 300 unit good for peppers and tomatoes or can you suggest other models- with affordable premium price range?
Thank you for your help and for sharing your information!
God bless,
Pat
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Thanks for a nice review. I have 3 SF 300 since I needed a narrow formfactor at 60cm length.
Now I am look at something for my Milsbo greenhouse from Ikea but its superhard to find some better alternative.
Are there any good performing LEDs about 60cm with better performance?
This is a great review. I wonder though if the SF600 ought to be considered in a side-by-side configuration for a shelf with 4 1020 trays. Is there anything in the market that's more of a 4' x 2' or 2' x 1' form factor? maybe 2 1000 units hung end-to-end?
Thanks for watching! Right now I'm using 2 x 1000 units attached side by side and getting excellent coverage. They're dimmed down quite a bit, pulling about 60W combined. But they are covering a 16" x 25" area super well. Center PPFD is 600 umols. Growing some Elfin thyme and the plants are loving it.
@@Albopepper I ended up pulling the trigger on an SF rack plus the 3 SF600 units. They are all still shipping, but I'll let the community know how things go.
And I might still grab 2 1000 units too. I mostly grow peppers in 5 gal buckets with a sub irrigation (grobucket) platform and I keep trying to overwinter them productively - or at least not kill ALL of them. :D
Thanks! 🙏 Very helpful 👍
Thanks for watching Jim! I'm glad this info was able to help out. :)
So I got a 4 bulb t5 powerveg 4ft that I use to clone and germ in I dont like when I have to put them under the led veg tent and they have to get use to the intensity and adjust accordingly would this sf 600 be a better option for a small 20 site clone box and little germ dome instead of the t5 power veg and then they would always be use to.the led lights thanks for any help growmies and the t5 has to be using way more electric
Does anyone know if the zeggwell 220 watt grow light is any good. I got it on amazon and if it isn't I'm going to return it. Please anyone who can offer info. I'd appreciate it greatly
Is the only reason to get this over a 100w square light the vertical space? Seems like the 100w tend to be more efficient, and give you a less cramped working area. I’m looking to use mainly with seedlings and currently have a small T5 unit, but am leaning toward a 100w square based on your videos. Thoughts?
I don't recommend buying these if the price is inflated. SF300 is not worth more than $73. The SF600 should not be more than $100. If the price is higher, then Spider Farmer is gouging. Don't buy it!
I saw the SF600 for $150 and was so furious that they're now exploiting customers. However.... Your question deserves a good answer. The SF300 & SF600 are a good form factor for window sills and narrow spaces. They're decent in shelves too, but the lack of a dimmer is a real turn off since you still need enough vertical space.
When possible, I like the 1000 style square LEDs because they waste less light at the edges. Typically these are dimmable as well. And sometimes you can get 2 of those models for the price of a single SF600! For example, you would be MUCH better off buying two of VIPARSPECTRA's P1000 from this video: ruclips.net/video/WmjOSzSF-HI/видео.html You can dim them way down to use the same total power as a single SF600, but the coverage area would be even better! And they could be placed closer if needed.
@@Albopepper thanks! I see the xs1000 is also on sale so might just snag that for a few dollars more. Appreciate the input!!
Thank you for this clarification. I've watched all your led comparison vids and your advice to check current pricing was spot on. I picked up 4 Maxsisun MF1000s on Amazon for the same price as two Spider 600s.
Hi sir.. i have a request for you sir did you know about solar tube. If you have time sir can you pls try that if its work for lettuce or any other vegie plants sir thnx so much for ur video.
Waiting for review spider farmer SE3000,SE5000,SE7000
they should do a V-shape of the led-stripe to eliminate the hotspot in the middle and spread out the light. it would be a perfect shelf light then. (just few degrees would do it)
Thanks for this great information. I’ve got a couple raised beds in the yard, but really want to control conditions for things that bolt in the late spring-brassicas, etc. Great help for decisions to come. Thanks.
Excellent coverage of the topic!
Thanks for taking time to watch! 😁
Thumbs up Sir. The comparison is very helpful and easy to understand.
Glad to hear it! Thanks for watching Uncle Dave. :)
Awesome info! Was on Amazon just now looking to buy but couldn’t decide between 300 and 600. After watching this video, I know which one suits my setup better. Thanks!
Glad I could help! ;-)
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So, would these lights work well for veg? Or should i be using a more powerful light?
Yes, they work for veg. You just need to use them as outlined in the video. It also depends on the specifics of your application.
On lights like these, would there be any advantage to adding a reflective material to the underside of the shroud?
That's a great question! I was wondering the same thing. It might be worth testing out to see!
@@Albopepper I know there isn't a lot of upward light transmission but there is some to the sides.
I use waterproof reflective duct tape and tape the tops of my dwc totes up and it actually reflects some light upward. Some is some right.
Why you stop posting videos ?!? And the few last ones are only lamps :(( cheers
Thanks for watching! This video was held up for release until they actually had stock on the SF300. Lights are a popular topic. But I want to do some other content as well. Out of curiosity, what topic are you interested in?
@@Albopepper Hi, 1st thanks for reply. 6, 5 years ago you're so prolific producing videos. [It help me starting my own vegetable garden], than almost stopped. Hope everything ok with you. Topics, could be anything, for example types of preventive organic treatments. Cheers
Any feedback on a "Vivosun vs 1000"? Thank you!!
Will you please do a review of the zeggwell ss-2200 grow light that's on amazon.