Studio Light 101: Beauty dish vs Deep Silver Umbrella

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  • Опубликовано: 18 окт 2024

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  • @artemisfowl9002
    @artemisfowl9002 6 лет назад +58

    that model is ridiculously attractive like wow

    • @yves225CI
      @yves225CI 6 лет назад +1

      I fall in Love immediately

  • @Photomeike
    @Photomeike 6 лет назад +16

    Love this. I have both a a Dish and an Umbrella and I love them both equally. But if I HAD to pick one. I would go with the Dish. I just love the drama and the look it can achieve

    • @sadowskaphoto
      @sadowskaphoto  6 лет назад +1

      Photo-Me-Ike definitely understand! However I’ve always been in love with how the modelling light looks on the model’s face and I feel like the umbrella imitates that, but 100 times nicer 😍

  • @HRMLRCON
    @HRMLRCON 4 года назад +5

    The Beauty dish is twice the size of the Models face, so closer is softer, thanks for sharing your lighting preferences and lovely resulting Images Anita, and the Models freckles are to die for

  • @stanspb763
    @stanspb763 6 лет назад +19

    The Beauty Dish was designed to be a headshot modifier that could be used in a limited space for consistent results by providing a full face wrap. To wrap light around the face means using it very close, within 1.5 x the dish diameter or closer. The hole in the center is to shoot through so the wrap is in all angles. It should be used on a parallel plane with the face. If one is doing a lot of head shots or comparison shots for makeup examples the Beauty Dish is the easiest way to get consistent shadowless faces. It is also effective in jewelry or other product images due to the shadowless wrap of light around a smaller object that would normally have hotspots. A very different look will be seen if the Dish is used as intended, you might like it. It is a great tool for some jobs but does not do everything, so it is not a do-everything-well modifier. The big umbrella is very nice when there is a controlled background, a white seamless for example but where the light spill needs to be controlled, softboxes, gridded spots, strip boxes, or other constrained pattern sources are the answer. The big umbrella requires a lot of space and some ceiling hight but has a very nice quality of light. A smaller umbrella can be used a lot closer to the subject to get light fall off according to the Inverse Square Law if the background needs to be less exposed

    • @zacgrimaldo
      @zacgrimaldo 5 лет назад

      Are you a photography teacher? I like that you threw in the inverse square law...LOL. What about the Scheimpglug principle? JK, the things you speak of are truth.

    • @dalescher
      @dalescher 2 года назад +1

      You brought more valuable insights in one comment than 90% of RUclips photography videos in 2 videos. Thank you for this sum up

    • @PaulBenjaminPhoto
      @PaulBenjaminPhoto 4 месяца назад

      Are you sure you aren't talking about a ring flash?
      In particular a beauty dish doesn't have a hole in the middle to shoot through?
      Everything you say is correct (shadowless, macro, etc.) for a ring flash, for a beauty dish less so...

  • @greatpix
    @greatpix 6 лет назад +15

    You might want to try using both the umbrella (or any larger modifier) and beauty dish on axis together. I think you'll like it.

    • @JohnSansomPhoto
      @JohnSansomPhoto 6 лет назад +7

      Good suggestion. When photography jewellery for beauty, it's common to use a large/soft light as a base layer and then add hard lights for sculpting.

  • @pierrev.8192
    @pierrev.8192 6 лет назад +36

    Size is always relative to the distance of the modifier to the subject. Normally you use a beauty dish much closer for that reason. 50-70cm or so. Thank you nevertheless for your comparrison.

    • @chevytRogers
      @chevytRogers 5 лет назад +5

      To Pierre's point, would you be willing to move the beauty dish closer and reassess if your opinion changes?

    • @brianasealy6257
      @brianasealy6257 4 года назад

      I was also wondering if maybe some diffusion was used on both modifiers would s as he like the beauty dish more!? 🥰♥️

    • @brianasealy6257
      @brianasealy6257 4 года назад

      She*

  • @nene1964
    @nene1964 2 года назад +1

    silver beauty dish is super contrasty. the white beauty dish is so much softer

  • @joeyparma5193
    @joeyparma5193 8 дней назад

    amazing videos... would of loved to see the exact same pose instead of one face dead straight the other looking to the right...just for a better comparison for the shadows...great shots all in all. and useful well explained information. thanks keep it up!

  • @zacgrimaldo
    @zacgrimaldo 5 лет назад

    I agree at that distance, the beauty dish is very snappy, but in the set up that you have in the video, the two modifiers together would produce a less contrasty result, as the umbrella would act as your fill. It's the setup we used back in the day with a barrel light, an awesome modifier that hasn't come back...yet.

  • @blackreign412
    @blackreign412 3 года назад

    Ordered my first 65" umbrella after watching this outstanding video! Thanks

  • @oysteinthorsen
    @oysteinthorsen 4 года назад +1

    Check the models eyes at around 3:00 in the movie. In the umbrella version of the picture, in the light reflection in her eyes, you can actually see the shadow of Anita. Not sure if that was the intention, but a nice little detail.

  • @FKfilmphotography
    @FKfilmphotography 6 лет назад +30

    I've found the beauty dish far away becomes very much a spot light and a lot less flattering.

    • @jasonbodden8816
      @jasonbodden8816 5 лет назад +3

      It's just a different quality of light. Not for everyone.

  • @pcls-tech
    @pcls-tech 2 года назад

    I definitely prefer the silver umbrella, the beauty of the lights and shadows is incredible

  • @JacklynLune.Photos
    @JacklynLune.Photos 6 лет назад +2

    She's so beautiful! I was going to buy a beauty dish but might reconsider and get a big umbrella!

  • @Sami-hr7gn
    @Sami-hr7gn 2 года назад

    That was awesome 💚

  • @RB-of2uu
    @RB-of2uu 4 года назад

    One of your best work 💞

  • @Flying4Film
    @Flying4Film 5 лет назад +17

    The dish will give you better results if it's about an arm length from the subject.

  • @shellbee577
    @shellbee577 5 лет назад +1

    If you think about it, a beauty dish and an umbrella are basically the same thing... The nice thing about the beauty dish is that you can position it very close, this gives you different falloff characteristics due to the inverse square law. Umbrellas are not as precise but are bigger which makes them easy to use in more situations.

  • @mamiyapress
    @mamiyapress 4 года назад

    Thumbs up for that outstandingly beautiful model.

  • @yuanyingmona804
    @yuanyingmona804 6 лет назад +6

    The model is gorgeous..

  • @nicolaiecostel
    @nicolaiecostel 6 лет назад +1

    Great ideea, Anita. Could you also compare silver reflective umbrella vs white reflective ? I am on the fence on this one since I want a softer light than the silver offers

    • @jasonbodden8816
      @jasonbodden8816 5 лет назад

      Then you're not on the fence lol. Get the white (unless you already got it as this was 8 months ago lol).

  • @lehzlaturio5717
    @lehzlaturio5717 3 года назад

    i love the model

  • @latoyasantosbeauty
    @latoyasantosbeauty 6 лет назад +1

    Thank you so much for this video Anita! I’ve been wondering which would be best overall. I actually purchased the Glow large umbrella because of your last video with it and I can see I made the right choice! Beautiful comparison both ways, but I definitely love the soft glow of the umbrella 😍

    • @sadowskaphoto
      @sadowskaphoto  6 лет назад

      LaToya Santos amazing! So happy to hear you’re happy with your choice! Hope you love it as much as I do ☺️

  • @KetansaCreatesArt
    @KetansaCreatesArt 6 лет назад +2

    Wow, I came to see the model, but I liked you more Anita. 😊
    But really the orange dot in Cathy's left eye is so unique. She must be the only one in the world like that. If I meet her I will keep her forever. 🤗

  • @zGRYed
    @zGRYed 6 лет назад

    Bardzo dziękuję za ten film.
    Jest bardzo pomocny.
    Ja jestem raczej zwolennikiem Beauty Dish'a, choć teraz mam ochotę spróbować takiej dużej parasolki i jakie efekty uzyskam.
    Dzięki raz jeszcze.

    • @sadowskaphoto
      @sadowskaphoto  6 лет назад +1

      Michał Piotrowski Ja tez bylam, a teraz bez parasolki zyc nie mogę! Powodzenia w testach :)

  • @zrowedaartistviews2278
    @zrowedaartistviews2278 2 года назад

    Biggest takeaway is the flags on each side. Great video

  • @kacy_12
    @kacy_12 6 лет назад +1

    Nice, can so is this a parabolic or normal umbrella? x

  • @chrisgrayston8331
    @chrisgrayston8331 3 года назад

    Love your work Anita. What head are you using for the umbrella? In terms of power? Is it the Profoto 1000 Monobloc, or the Profoto 500 Monobloc? Or something else? Thanks :)

  • @iagofelixx
    @iagofelixx 5 лет назад

    Thank you for sharing those information, Anita!

  • @uncleanAlibertine1
    @uncleanAlibertine1 6 лет назад

    your voice is so relaxing! nice model, nice result!

  • @arua7668
    @arua7668 5 лет назад

    All your videos are amazing! Thanks!!!
    I think, it will be great, if your viewers will send photos that they wants to see how to create them. For example, l love to see different studio lightning schemes and I would like to watch them more))))

  • @martingarcia3999
    @martingarcia3999 6 лет назад +1

    i loove your videos!! hello from spain, mallorca

  • @travazor
    @travazor 6 лет назад

    Love your work!

  • @josephboldt8065
    @josephboldt8065 6 лет назад +3

    Do you have a similar sized white umbrella to do a comparison video between those two?

    • @JohnSansomPhoto
      @JohnSansomPhoto 6 лет назад +2

      There is a good Comparison of Profoto Umbrella's on their blog here - profoto.com/uk/profoto-stories/truthfully-now-how-much-difference-is-there-between-a-white-silver-and-translucent-umbrella-deep
      Keep in mind that the blog post compares using Small Umbrellas but the "type" of difference (for example more/less contrast, luminosity and transition of shadows/highlights, ) will be consistent across umbrellas of the same size.
      To answer your question, a Profoto white umbrella of the same size produces a softer light, with less contrast, in comparison to the silver version. The colour temperature is also warmer.

  • @littlejazzyfox
    @littlejazzyfox 6 лет назад

    Anita I love you!

  • @g4money
    @g4money 6 лет назад +1

    Nice Video! I like the look even SOOC. I would lean towards the Beauty Dish ever so slightly though. 🤔

    • @sadowskaphoto
      @sadowskaphoto  6 лет назад +2

      GStreet I think at the end of the day it’s just a matter of preference!

    • @g4money
      @g4money 6 лет назад

      Anita Sadowska Absolutely and Good to have Choices 😀

  • @GKhanKutar
    @GKhanKutar 5 лет назад

    I prefer deep XL white Profoto umbrella over silver xlarge one!

  • @ashleyartsco
    @ashleyartsco 3 года назад

    Can we use these light modifiers with a C Stand and light mounted on it?

  • @3aBap4uK
    @3aBap4uK 5 лет назад

    Great video. Thanks.

  • @aliarenas6856
    @aliarenas6856 4 года назад

    great video:)

  • @pareshghole8652
    @pareshghole8652 6 лет назад

    loved the video anita model is very natural n beautiful like ur photography.

  • @pawelecphoto
    @pawelecphoto 6 лет назад +2

    I’m a big fan of both beauty dishes and umbrellas, it just depends on one’s workflow more than anything.
    Have you tried a MOLA yet? They’re my fav modifiers currently, other than the Broncolor Paras ;) #TeamBroncolor

  • @Jaiswalsiddhant66
    @Jaiswalsiddhant66 3 года назад

    i want to know diff btw white and grey beauty dish ?

  • @ShenTan
    @ShenTan 6 лет назад

    Thanks for the video, it’s so well explained 😀

    • @sadowskaphoto
      @sadowskaphoto  6 лет назад

      Shen Tan happy you found it informative!

  • @nelsonm.5044
    @nelsonm.5044 6 лет назад

    Very interesting comparison

  • @onairwithyoz2252
    @onairwithyoz2252 6 лет назад

    I've been looking at these 2 for on location work. Would the results would be similar to in studio?

  • @willrevellet8651
    @willrevellet8651 6 лет назад +1

    Thank you ! .

  • @gregoriofreitasbarcelos
    @gregoriofreitasbarcelos 6 лет назад

    Deliciosas fotografias!!!!!!. ((Anita Sadowska!!)

  • @jessestarks3128
    @jessestarks3128 6 лет назад

    I prefer an umbrella but I like white over silver. Silver does give more "punch" but I'm still on the fence as far as the look goes.

  • @lisaolierook6343
    @lisaolierook6343 5 лет назад

    When buying the light/lamp itself.. Especially for beauty photography. What are things you need to look out for? Can anyone recommend any good tutorials / advise videos on the lighting itself?:)

  • @ejphoto
    @ejphoto 6 лет назад

    I tend to favor the umbrella. It has a bigger more defined catchlight.

  • @BanziBanzi
    @BanziBanzi 6 лет назад +2

    Piekna artystka , wspaniala kobieta .Good day .

  • @pawezarzycki1251
    @pawezarzycki1251 6 лет назад

    Ania, a nie jest przypadkiem tak, że jeśli chcesz porównywać softa z bd, to ten BD powinien być zdecydowanie bliżej i pod kątem mniej więcej 45 stopni? Tutaj na filmie strzelasz z mniej wiecej tej samej odległości i bd jest skierowany płasko.
    Z tego co wiem modyfikatory są najbardziej "efektywne" w odległości 2x przekątna modyfikatora. Jeśli takiego małego bd będziesz używać z odległości 2-3 metrów to zawsze będzie "harsh-lightning".
    Pozdrawiam;)

    • @sadowskaphoto
      @sadowskaphoto  6 лет назад

      Paweł Zarzycki nazywam sie anita :) Beauty dish był około metra, może 1.40, a nie 2/3 od modelki. Byl rowniez skierowany na dol, a nie prosto. Jak widać na zdjęciach światło nie było „harsh” tylko cienie były troche ostrzejsze.

  • @jared.campbell
    @jared.campbell 5 лет назад +1

    Is the a normal silver, or the " soft silver" umbrella?

  • @USELECKSIONS
    @USELECKSIONS 6 лет назад

    i'm loving you

  • @HaimGreen
    @HaimGreen 6 лет назад

    Great video ,what's the transmitter on the camera?

    • @sadowskaphoto
      @sadowskaphoto  6 лет назад

      Haim Green I would have to ask, it was the studio’s one!

  • @3-piece129
    @3-piece129 6 лет назад

    Nice video. Was wondering if the light gets blocked from the umbrella by you standing in front of it during shooting? The umbrella is so big, is it possible to set it up without the photographer standing in front of it? To me, it seems to defeat the purpose.
    - Novice photographer.

    • @llg4958
      @llg4958 6 лет назад +1

      It's a fair question, and it is asked very often.
      With that large of a light source, the light will wrap around you if you are between light source and the subject.
      You could set up the the umbrella differently, but then you are getting a different image (change in angle, more/less shadow, etc.)

  • @ranamaher3629
    @ranamaher3629 3 года назад

    Whats the model of the light?

  • @bzkdnb
    @bzkdnb 5 лет назад

    Ja to widze, ze pani Sadowska to calkiem fajna jest!

  • @summerlomba2525
    @summerlomba2525 3 года назад

    What’s the size of the beauty dish?

  • @TrapPhoneLoveMelodiesss
    @TrapPhoneLoveMelodiesss 2 года назад

    Model looking like a thick Angelina Jolie… Great review!

  • @javierfuentesfotografiayvi5589
    @javierfuentesfotografiayvi5589 6 лет назад

    Muy bueno!

    • @sadowskaphoto
      @sadowskaphoto  6 лет назад +1

      Javier Fuentes Fotografía y Video thank you :)

  • @bryanrai
    @bryanrai 6 лет назад

    Anita i love you

  • @waleedmedfayer1955
    @waleedmedfayer1955 6 лет назад

    Interesting Anita. 💯💯💯👌🏽🙏🏽

  • @berniemac7777
    @berniemac7777 6 лет назад

    Would the white beauty dish give an inbetween the 2?

    • @ThorstenMerz
      @ThorstenMerz 6 лет назад

      bernie Mac A white BD is completely different to a silver BD. White is great for beauty photography and silver is better suited to fashion. But really the only way to find out what works for you is to try both. Likwise for umbrellas, where white gives a nice soft light that's very flattering and forgiving compared to the more crisp quality of a silver umbrella. You can get a reasonably close approximation of what a silver or white beauty dish might look like by using a small silver or white umbrella that is partially collapsed (ie. not fully extended). It's a handy way of trying things out before investing in a more expensive BD.

    • @llg4958
      @llg4958 6 лет назад +2

      It would be the same as a white umbrella versus a silver umbrella: the silver provides a little more in the highlights because the silver reflector gives the light slightly more punch.
      On another note, a beauty dish is meant to be used much closer ( it loses most of the effect if the light is more than a meter from the subject.)

  • @nestorcorrea7315
    @nestorcorrea7315 6 лет назад

    Always a learning experience to watch your videos. :)

    • @sadowskaphoto
      @sadowskaphoto  6 лет назад

      Nestor Correa thanks so much my friend :)

  • @jhonmacalalag4689
    @jhonmacalalag4689 6 лет назад

    Wow.. 😊😊😊💖💖💖📷📷📷

  • @jockeoscarsson
    @jockeoscarsson 6 лет назад +5

    The BD is waaaaay too far away to work as its supposed to. You are using it as a standard hard light reflector

    • @jasonbodden8816
      @jasonbodden8816 5 лет назад +2

      People have been using modifiers in ways other than what they were created to do for aeons. Experimentation is the cornerstone of photography. There are staples then there's stepping outside of that for possibly something fantastic and new. We don't all have to colour within the lines. Photographers use Beauty Dishes as typical softboxes further than 2 feet away more and more these days with great results. Makes no sense telling them they're not using their modifiers correctly.

  • @tolepa
    @tolepa 5 лет назад

    💛

  • @tramanand
    @tramanand 4 года назад

    stunning face

  • @sezair0
    @sezair0 5 лет назад

    until next Time

  • @francoisfrenkiel58
    @francoisfrenkiel58 5 лет назад +4

    The way you used the beauty dish on this vidéo is a complete non sens... First it is a little one. Second, for beauty you have to use it much closer from you subject. Putting the beauty dish at the same distance as the umbrella means that you compare two lighting sources with radical diameter difference... Then it is normal that you have harder high lights and shadows on the beauty dish...

  • @nakleh
    @nakleh 6 лет назад +3

    You aren’t using the beauty dish correctly. It shouldn’t be so far away. It should be very close to the subject, not as far as you have it. Of course if you use it at the same distance as the umbrella, it’s going to be MUCH harder since it’s so much smaller. But for real beauty it should be within arms reach from the model’s face. D

  • @richardsteeples6598
    @richardsteeples6598 6 лет назад

    What are they for

  • @pepe2618
    @pepe2618 6 лет назад

    Thanks for the video. Just one question, wich distance do you recomend from the beauty dish to the model face?

    • @ThorstenMerz
      @ThorstenMerz 6 лет назад +1

      PEPE A good starting point would be to use the diameter of the beauty dish as your distance from your subjects face and perhaps even as much as 2x the diameter (but not more, unless you have a specific lighting effect in mind).

  • @contactpq
    @contactpq 6 лет назад +3

    I noticed that many are suggesting that you are using the BD incorrectly ... why not do a video comparison showing the difference between the way were using the BD and the results the way many commentors are suggesting that it should be used

  • @chancellorpalpatineakathes6130
    @chancellorpalpatineakathes6130 4 года назад +1

    Beauty dishes are definitely a drag, one shoot you got vogue level stuff the next shoot it looks like you took pics with a flashlight 🤯

  • @karu2003
    @karu2003 5 лет назад +1

    Very strange comparison. The umbrella is big, and the dish is small. It was necessary to take the same size.

  • @jackofblades6736
    @jackofblades6736 5 лет назад +1

    Shouldn’t the beauty dish be a lot closer to the talent?

  • @shaolin95
    @shaolin95 5 лет назад +2

    Errr just move the beauty dish closer....

  • @stanglova86
    @stanglova86 5 лет назад

    Angelina jolie feels

  • @heredownunder
    @heredownunder 5 лет назад

    The umbrella is a lot further back than ‘a metre to metre and half’.

  • @jamesstrength5405
    @jamesstrength5405 5 лет назад

    Your comparison is very inaccurate due to the fact that the beauty dish is meant to be used at about arms length from the model not 8 feet.

  • @chrisneaves4685
    @chrisneaves4685 5 лет назад +1

    Beauty dish way to far away from subject

  • @flol3266
    @flol3266 Год назад

    This is a pretty bad comparison though

  • @23codez
    @23codez 4 года назад

    The beauty dish is TOO FAR.

  • @EpicsodeOne
    @EpicsodeOne 5 лет назад +4

    Your beauty dish is waaaayyy out of position. Not a fair comparison.

  • @andrewmedina1943
    @andrewmedina1943 6 лет назад

    Thank you 👍🏻