The fan content shut down actually hurts me so badly Imagine being a fan of Nintendo and their work, spending years of your life making a non profit game of a franchise they own just because you care about it that much. And to have it all shut down in an instant by the very same company.
@@htwo1 They literally shot down AM2R as it finished development after years of hard work. As much as I love Nintendo's works, I can't support them anymore. They're so vicious to their fanbase its unreal. Didn't they also start DMCAing artwork from twitter at one point too?
@@YaboiGrunty ok heres the thing: if you "advertise" something as a remake then that would imply that the game would be a superior option because thats the definition of a remake (making a older product and improving it and adapting it for newer hardware) make fangames all you want but remakes/porting music to a platform like youtube is where i draw the line
also thats the one that broke the camels back? their are litterly so manny takedowns over the years but the one where you can argue if its justifide is going to far? they have (i think) on more than one acasion accidentally used deviant art in their games like Super Smash Bros Ultimate and as far as i know the art is still up
Nintendo doesn't deserve their community. It's amazing how they can create great, different games while being horrible at handling anything fan-related since ever.
@@annigram Sucka those are three games, two of them aren’t even main lines. Mario sports games now kinda suck, I’ll give you that, but we still have games like botw 1 and 2, splatoon 2 and 3, actual mainline Mario games, xenonblade the list goes on
@Master Of Galaxies It's a corporation. I get that you're a nintendo fan, but don't personify a billion dollar corporation. They don't have feelings, or hopes and dreams. It is a company.
I remember when Switch Online was first revealed, I was absolutely baffled at that. They blocked CLOUD SAVES behind a subscription?! Yes. They did. I’d say that was the beginning of my growing resentment to Nintendo. Imagine you want to backup your phone on a cloud save only for it to say “You just bought our phone now pay an ongoing subscription to actually keep a backup of your stuff also fuck you.”
They've actually been doing stuff like this since they first entered the industry. Something like increasing costs on cartridges and refusing to switch from them due to their patent, the old CEO talking down to Playstation JRPG fans, and cancelling games like Star Fox 2 because it was so good that it made N64 games look bad.
yes the OLD CEO he is no longer a figure of the company this is like saying Germany is still guilty of what Hitler did and i hope we both know that that isn't true (extreme example but you get the point)
@@stijngryp2589 My point is that Nintendo has always been terrible at PR. Same with Germany. Doesn't change anything as there are many people still at Nintendo just as bad as him with a lot of power. Hence... FreeMelee. Don't know if there are still people in Germany who support previous laws, but wouldn't be surprised to see it still be advocated.
@@Freefork my point was just saying that i think its not right to dig up old history when the people responsible aren't relevant anymore yet still use it to blame the company like its not like you can remove history yes it happened but why do you bring it up when all your doing is adding extra logs to the fire
well i remember a video of someone talking about Sega taking down an intire site because fan games where there my memory of what happened exactly is vauqe on that one, but i know it involved Sega taking down a website and i remember seeing a comment of someone saying "this brings a hole new meaning to Sega does what Nintendon't" and it was recently, i'm talking post Sonic Mania
@@stijngryp2589 Too vague buddy. If you want to paint a narrative that Nintendo is the perfect company like the apologist you are, use actual evidence. Going "WELL... I think Sega did something like it... but I conveniently forgot everything so you can't look it up and prove me wrong. Whoops!" You must have so much value.
@@Freefork look i know i can't proof it but i genually don't remember if you don't believe me then i'll give you other sources of people i agree (mostly) with: Omni (talked about the Joycon story) Chuggaaconroy (Link to the past LP) Arlo (talks regularly about these things) Demeech (is known for making Nintendo rants and reviews) a youtuber whose name i forgot but i remember a video he made "no Nintendo isn't evil but it isn't that simple" he talks about all the things that happened around the JoyBoys controversie i looked up that video but i couldn't find it but maybe you can is this still too vaque for you?
@@stijngryp2589 Is it too vague for me? Well, I don't quite remember. Years ago, I said kinda... but then maybe... and I had a source of information I couldn't cite... and yeah, but no. Was that clearer?
Nintendo is the gaming equivalent to Disney to me. Pioneers in their respective mediums of entertainment, with the ability to create some of the most well designed, creative, and magical experiences possible through a massive lineup of iconic and beloved characters. But on the other hand, they constantly stomp down on passionate fans trying to understand and appreciate their work, have scummy and greedy market practices, have next to no interest in preserving important parts of their legacies, and don't get me started on that really recent bullshit. I'm still amazed that there are people that throw themselves in the crossfire for faceless billion-dollar corporations like these. I will always love what Nintendo has done for the games industry and what their games stand for, but you can love something and still point out its faults, because that means you care about them and want them to get better. They certainly have plenty of room to improve, and I hope they realize how to before it's too late.
Nintendo and Disney are both basically IP trolls at this point, hoarding "intellectual property" so they don't have to innovate much. We desperately need to reform IP law not just in America, but worldwide. Honestly, we need to go back to 28 year terms (or shorter than that) for copyright. Nintendo, Disney, and other corporations are certainly the worst offenders, but even if we take huge corporations out of the equation, these long terms fly in the face of the spirit of intellectual property law--the grandkids of innovators can profit for doing nothing, all in the interest, ironically, of promoting innovation.
What's more disturbing is that there's still people that will defend this company's actions. You can feasibly justify one or two things in this video or cite them as honest mistakes, but to pretend that all of these things don't add up to a company who revile a large portion of their most loyal fans is being what we like to call a Nintendrone. An insult that is very funny.
Surprisingly some of those who defend Nintendo make hacks for Nintendo games. It really baffles me. Intact I know one who wants to add drum to his hack to prevent real copys of the game from being made so it only runs on everdrives and emulation. All while claiming anyone who puts the game on a real cart is violating Nintendo and his copyright which is funny because he can not actually copyright his hack because it is Nintendos code.
If you ask me, this type of “why do other people do things I don’t like” always come from shitty boring people who had nothing better to do in their shitty boring life than dissing others to feel good about themselves.
Nintendo online is overall just stupid. Buying a 300 Euro console, paying for a Wifi connection, paying 60 Euros for the game itself and then still having to pay for the ability to actually play the game you just bought is just... to much. If a game is fullprice, I shouldn´t have to pay even more just so I can acces all the content the game has.
Yeah when it comes to older games its better to just emulate on PC or modded consoles and maybe collect if you can afford it It isn't just a Nintendo problem but an industry wide issue... of course Nintendo just wants you to buy the games over and over again
Nintendo hates emulation so much that you can't even play their **free** mobile games on PC emulators (I have low phone storage ok). Not sure how that affects them but I might be missing something I guess.
Well that's the thing, it doesn't affect them. At all. Their bottom line isn't impacted whatsoever by you using an emulator to play a free mobile game. The reason they're so heavy handed with emulation is to try and send a message to people that want to use them or want to host them on their sites
Gabe Newell Quote The easiest way to stop piracy is not by putting antipiracy technology to work. It's by giving those people a service that's better than what they're receiving from the pirates.
I love how sega and nintendo are like the exact opposite, sega loves their communities while nintendo actually hates their fans, segas games are mostly mediocre while nintendo makes some genuine bangers, sega allows their games to be on alot of different platforms while nintendo will sue someone for using an emulator etc
My opinion on emulation is pretty simple. If you already own the game it's OK. If the original publisher of the game is not selling the game anymore or not selling a console it can be played on anymore, it is OK. Which, well, I will say melee 100% falls under. I genuinely think this is the most fair rule for emulation.
well i 100% agree you have to know that their has to be a legal definition in order for a company to agree which i would state: each console maker is defined in generations (each company is entitled to their own generation line)(each console is one generation)(handhelds have their own generation line)(hybrids count as both) anything released 2 generations ago is fair game + if the current system has no backwards compatibilety and it can reasoneble be expected that games from 1 generation ago aren't getting ported to the current system then it is allowed that that generation gets emulated
This happened to me today: I just bought the Mario Kart 8 Deluxe Booster Pass thinking I would get the 4x Bonus Points deal they're having until the end of April 2023, but since I bought a download code instead of eShop funds, I didn't get them. I called Nintendo to ask if I could have The rest of the reward points. The representatives I talked to at Nintendo pointed me to some terms that were only on one page of the web site (not the item's purchase page), and when I tried to ask what's the difference between buying a download code and buying eShop funds from a retailer, a supervisor said I was being "disrespectful." So yeah, Nintendo's evil. I'm not planning on buying any more Nintendo stuff that isn't pre-owned.
I've gotten copyright strikes from Nintendo for simply mentioning games that were on a Nintendo console. No game footage, no music. They weren't even games actually owned by Nintendo! But, I'm a minor league RUclipsr so, my videos just go bye bye. My personal favorite was when they tried to claim a video tour of a Minecraft server I was hosting because the server was called "Minecraft Castlevania". They hit a sort of brick wall because, obviously, Konami owns Castlevania. LoL x_x
Nintendo been this way as far back as the 80s where they had a huge iron grip over third-party support where not only they force the third license companies to make only 5 games a year for the NES but also told any gaming stores that if they sell any unlicensed Nintendo games they would stop sending them any more Nintendo items. That's why very little third license games on Sega Master System and killed Atari 7800 to a point Atari was making unofficial NES games under the TENGEN label games. This also the main reason that many third-party companies jump ship for the Sony PS1 over the N64 and never look back at Nintendo the same way again.
then why did make games for them if it was so bad + company's that where very prominant like Capcom still support Nintendo to this very day, im pretty sure they even made a couple of smash games
@@ThomastheDankEngine8900 the comment speaks of the NES regulation not how Nintendo is bad also wasn't the Iwata age a very long time for Nintendo? + i was responding to a comment, if i was talking about the video i would have made my own comment
And that's why I rip all of my Nintendo games myself, so I don't have them on my ass for downloading games from rom sites. I am against having current games on currently supported consoles on rom sites, because that DOES affect their bottom line. But if the games are no longer sold or no longer possible to play without emulation, it literally doesn't affect them all. Emulation is super important for preservation, so I am all for emulators for that
Wow. What an amazing video. No other RUclipsr (in my opinion) has given as good as an explanation on Nintendo as you have. I’m actually hooked on watching your videos now and I just wanted to say excellent job! You earned yourself a sub, and I hope you have good success with RUclips in the future!
The shutdown of Another Metroid 2 Remake is another fan-game PR disaster that really stings. At least it's sorta justified in that they were already remaking Metroid 2, but still, the passion behind that game was palpable. I also think Pokemon Uranium was another high profile fan game they DMCA'd?
I still got to play am2r and I even seen there be fan updates for it. As in, people besides the original am2r creator were adding on to it, and I've even seen a multiplayer mod of it. So there's that at least
I feel like we could have easily started living in a dystopian universe where Nintendo would legally strike you down for simply talking about their games without permission. "Oh, you like talking about Mario, do you have a license for that?"
As a Nintendo fan this hurts so bad, knowing that some people working in the company don't get their say on anything. I bet there is some good people there, but the executives are shutting them up
tbf, Nintendo has a reputation for shitting on fans. Whenever someone's making a fan project, they shut it down. Ironically, this actually happened with several Roblox games. A good few years back, there were these free to play Roblox games called Project Pokemon and Pokemon brick Bronze, which were basically just 3D Pokemon games on Roblox. Of course, Nintendo caught wind of their existence, and had the creators of the games shut them down. Same thing happened with a Pokemon fangame called Pokemon Uranium, which was available for free on Gamejolt, until (You guessed it) Nintendo found out about it and pulled the plug. It's sort of widespread knowledge that if you even so much as try to create a fangame or emulate an old game of theirs, they'll come down on you with extreme cruelty, and will accept no compromise. To them, you either pay them for their games and consoles, regardless of how old they are, or you don't get anything
Yeah they seem to not understand that their brand having a high reputation and having happy fans is way more valuable than the short term revenue of getting royalties from fan games, or money from lawsuits
Nintendo's online components are so terrible that the only time I ever take my Switch off of airplane mode is to buy/download games that I've seen are on sale.
I was a Nintendo player a long time ago. They began their shit a long time ago. I no longer buy their consoles. I refuse to touch their games. I avoid Nintendo like the plague. I simply don't want to support that company directly or indirectly. I even refuse to play Nintendo games with friends when they want to. Heck, I even won't play Nintendo games with my sister's kids. Sure they can play them. But I won't join them. I'm not forcing them not to. I'm just... not interested. If they want me to join them in games on the sofa, make it any other console. Just not Nintendo. They quickly learned this even though I haven't told them. They figured out that I'm "boring" when the Nintendo console is on but not if any of their other consoles is on (Xbox, PlayStation). They don't know I'm an active Nintendo refuser. They just figured that I love playing with em when it's not Nintendo. They haven't asked me why yet and It'll remain that way. Once they ask why and are old enough to understand national economy I'll explain. Until then they can enjoy their Nintendo fun in their own way. I'm not taking that away from them.
Nintendo needs to get sued for half their money and return to everyone who were suppose to get that profit Copyright laws are bs if they don't want piracy then sell the games if a lawyer defending against Nintendo said everything in this videos the tables will turn nintendo will learn better i will stop pirating if nintendo does that also allow fan games on actual systems I refuse to be a fan of playstation,pc and x box nintendo is for me and not everything else so i honestly wish they learn their lesson one day i can't stress this out enough off my chest
I don't know if anyone remembers this, but I heard a lot of things about how Nintendo hated things like Blockbuster because it allowed people to rent games and Nintendo can't make money off that. As in they padded out games like Pokemon and did a bunch of other stuff to undermine Blockbuster. I think they even tried to get a lawsuit involved.
@@Freefork i'll be honest i have never heard story's about Nintendo in the card age so i assumed they where a neutral company back then besides i can tell you support fair critisism so you could do way better research than i ever could i mean you know about Square Enix X Nintendo story's, how they treat third parties, and i am going to assume that you know story's of Nintendo in the card age because you apparantly know that there is research to be done also i just want to know what happened how is that "being loyal"?
@@stijngryp2589 Look up Business Insider's 130 years of Nintendo history and research any minor details you don't know. Otherwise, going around constantly trying to change the subject to protect your favorite company and not doing some googling on your own like literally EVERYONE else in this comments section(except 2 other goofy dudes) will get you nowhere.
Nintendo has actually partnered and sponsored smash tournaments before and it actually never really did anything to increase prize money for the players or the quality of the event (Genesis 7 being the first that comes to mind). Melee players say they actually hate when Nintendo sponsors their tournaments because it means Nintendo will inforce rules that actively make the experience worse such as not letting players use USF or emulate it on Wii for a more stable experience and quality on monitors. They just use it as free advertising and to make it seem like they care but they actually don't.
Nintendo has always been an incredibly arrogant company. This is the same company that turned down Sony's proposition for a partnership (creating their biggest market rival), the same company that laughed in the faces of Microsoft when they proposed buying them out, and the same company that overreacts if anyone dares to talk about their IP's in any medium they don't have direct control of. Sometimes they've done amazing things and set many trends in the industry, and other times their own hubris has almost been their downfall - and could be again in the future.
the PG circuit worries me more than it gives me hope because i fear they will use it as an excuse to shut down more tournaments, in addition to running without basic QoL mods like UCF
The melee tournament situation was so dumb it hurt. From what I believe in order to emulate on dolphin you need the actual game files meaning you either had to find a rom or actually own the game (I think we all know which option the people who played in tournament used)
"Nintendo is a bad company that makes good games". Hit the nail on the head with that one. Their hardware is pretty good as well (not in technical capacity, but in actually satisfying the needs it is presented for). They are the most customers-disrespecting gaming company though, and that is an astonishing achievement considering that there are a lot greedier companies in terms of lootboxes, microtransactions etc. Wish there wasn't such a "choose your own poison" mentality necessary when it comes to big gaming brands, tbh. Would recommend the Switch Lite to anyone looking for a good mobile indie machine, though, that is what is worth encouraging.
@@freebird3926 Zelda (this gen) is also overrated, it's a puzzlefest with a pretty open world that doubles as a crafting simulator and has a very poor combat. There is creativity for the sake of creativity in it, which for me is a poor goal. It has its attractions but it is also mid, which is not bad, gods know gaming can do a lot worse than mid.
@@yavorvlaskov5404 ok , but tell me who play Mario?? I tried out Mario cart , odyssey I can’t play more then 15 min each , some kind of shit for 60$, I can’t understand this
@@freebird3926 oh yeah don't get me started on the pricing, they have no excuse for not properly discounting games. I liked Odyssey for the nostalgia factor and that is all that is good about it, shouldn't have been more than 30 dollars.
This is a company that I wanted to support for life. Ever since they started sending out cease and desist letters to their biggest fans, I've decided to end my support for Nintendo. Such a shame that a creative company really hates their supporters!
One time at E3 (2017/2018 I believe?) Reggie, in a crowd of people demo-ing Mario Tennis Aces, asked everyone to shout out what they wanted next from Nintendo. I hopelessly shouted "F-Zero," and another hopeless attendee shouted "Mother/Earthbound." Reggie looked in our directions, closed his eyes and shook his head. We remain hopeless to this day. Not gonna lie: I sometimes wish Nintendo would sell off the franchises they don't care about anymore to other companies to do great things that they (Nintendo) won't.
This is a really good summation of the situation. I appreciate your perspective on things. It is unfortunate when a company has to crack down on fan games when they secretly think it's cool, but Nintendo goes out of it's way to hunt people down for pennies. That's probably the thing I hope you talk about in the future, concerning how fan projects that might get the okay from a company, but later have to be cease and desisted otherwise they lose the copyright.
Me it is more of a: "Old friend who wants to be cool so he treats everyone like garbage so we're not cool anymore" relationship. Can't love you once you cross the line. To be honest, their games are super mediocre and Playstation has just as innovative titles... but that company sucks too. I'll play Indies until they get corrupt.
@Master Of Galaxies Nah. Analogy doesn't work for Nintendo. They really want to be cool now they're on top and will do anything to get higher, with or without anyone looking.
If i had a penny for every time nintendo either sued someone or send a ceise and desist order i would propably have a few dollars wich isent a lot but its weird that it happens so often
It’s funny to me how people call Sony anti consumer when Nintendo exists. Not saying Sony is pro consumer but definitely aren’t the worst of the big 3 towards customers.
I'd say to grossly oversimplify it; they've been lazily coasting on a generation of nostalgia while constantly overreaching their legal boundaries. I was a fan of them back when the gamecube was their newest release, but when they started hanging the smash tournaments I've turned my back on them since.
Some more stuff you might’ve forgot to add, they’re also shutting down the Eshops for the DS AND WiiU and for what? The “cycle”…you won’t even be able to get those games back on the switch and that just makes it all the more disappointing. 😐
i am so mad how nintendo shits on fan made games, such as pokémon brick bronze. that game was my childhood. however i am glad that sega is really in touch with the community, and helped the creation of a fan made sonic game on roblox.
Something else that Nintendo changed due to use of their brand was SuperMarioLogan. I think it was early 2020 or 2021, but im not sure. Nintendo had sued SuperMarioLogan for use of their characters, and they had to change all the plushies, thumbnails and the channel appearance. It was shortened to SML, the plushies were replaced with puppets and some of the characters are so different I couldn't even recognise some of them. Mario changed to Marvin, Rosalina changed to Rose, Toad changed to Lil T (i think) and Black Yoshi changed too, but I forgot what they changed his name to. That's all I know for now though...
well according to other people SML was a very bad person to his fans and i think their was even a news section about him at some point which would really hurt the Mario brand
@@stijngryp2589 I’m pretty sure the reason a lot of people were pissed about it was because SML did inappropriate things with the Mario characters causing them to get a C&D, yet SMG4 does the exact same stuff and they get off scott-free.
@@farmandfamilyveterinaryser6760 I’m aware of the Lawsuit arc, but I’m sure it was just for an arc. I don’t think Nintendo actually threatened to sue SMG4 during that time.
It's sad how people just take this total abuse and yet don't care. Then they use a stupid response like "oh well it's not the devs fault that the legal team is so bad", which is just wrong
They should be forced to sell the games or give customers a way to buy it officially if they are allowed to sue for emulation. If I can't pay you to get a game, then it's YOUR fault and people should be allowed to emulate
It is hard when emulation dies and when companies try to take it down. You then have to have the hardware or buy it online or retro store. I think it's good to support your local retro shops.
And you know one thing i believe it's wrong? PRINCESS PEACH REDESIGN. Peach CLASSIC design was my childhood and i love it but when Mario Party 4 came out they RUINED her but changing this awful dress and that's why i'm NOT giving attention to her on the later Mario games (i enjoy them) as well with DAISY REDESIGN. I did not expected this change. Hopefully they need to bring back the classic designs.
A year late but to add on to the 2013 EVO shutdown The smash tournament was there for being the game that made the most money for a breast cancer research charity
Online in games (im pretty sure) is entirely implemented by the developer and it's on them to set up servers for it which is one of the reasons its ridiculous to need to pay to play online, but it means if a game has bad online, that's a problem with the game's online servers, not the platform because "xbox live" for example now is basically just the term used for the subscription because if you're not playing a Microsoft developed game, the online could be hosted by the developer, or any hosting company.
12:27 I am still convinced that if Nintendo partnered up with content creators, the Wii U would have been much more of a commercial success than it became. Imagine if pewdiepie back in the days was playing on the Wii U and singing its praises, he could have helped sell hundreds of thousands of consoles just from how insanely large his fanbase was. By the end of 2014, pewds had over 33 million subs. Even if only 0.1% of his subscriber base bought a Wii U, that's still over 300 000 consoles. It's so painful how ass backwards Nintendo can be, it's so frustrating seeing how sh!1 they are as a company compared to how amazing they can be as a developer.
The problem nintendo has with emulation and fan games is that they're afraid of their ips becoming generalized and losing them. So they have to protect them because if they allow people to freely create content surrounding their games that isn't made by them, then it could jeopardize their rights to some of the characters if someone legitimately did make a game using their characters and likeness and selling it for profit, if they then rightfully tried to sue, it could result in that character becoming generalized and free use thus crumbling their market on exclusive rights. (For instance if this happened to mario or pokemon becoming free use it could legitimately destroy their company financially because of all of the people who could now use these characters)
These games are 30 years old. Nintendo is doing this because they want people to buy new games instead of playing retro ones. (unless you pay 50 dollars a year, of course)
Not a Nintendo player, but given how they milk their IPs for decades, I'd argue that outdated and fan games could directly compete with the new ones, impacting their bottom line. However, if it's actually a problem for them, it's their fault and not the customers'.
Man I'm so glad you made this video. I really love so many nintendo IPs but with the age of the switch I just hate them as a company and refuse to support them, and spread word of their anti-consumer practices as much as I can. I can't get over how much it hurts that for example as much as I love the zelda and splatoon IPs I will never be able to enjoy playing them again because of the lack if accessibility options provided by nintendo. Nintendo doesn't make a version of the switch to cater to the part of their audience that wants a higher end stationary experience over a low powered more restricted mobile one, and before it can be said that that's not what the switch was built upon they've had 6 years to create variants and or improve upon the switches design. However nintendo still hasn't taken any action to include the vast majority of the gaming world into their games, so until nintendo grows up as a company and stops being a greedy, anti-consumer, backwards company I'll just sit here in sadness at all the opportunities nintendo doesn't take to improve themselves as a company.
This didn't talk about Joycon drift, and the fact that Nintento refuses to fix it or even acknowledge that it's a problem because doing so would mean losing a lawsuit?
Nintendo consider themselves a software company first, because their revenue comes mainly from selling games and not from selling hardware. It's only natural they don't like emulators. If they didn't ban major events that use emulators, using emulators will become kind of a norm, leading to a future, in which Nintendo won't survive.
People will pirate 3ds and Wii U games because the game price will increase for the two consoles because the shop will close 3ds consoles prices are growing nice going Nintendo what a slap in the face
Important: I know this is an old video posted a year ago, but the new bs Nintendo is gargage. My main example is pointcrow. Please for the love of god respect someone rather than take away most of their videos. I was lucky to have recorded one of the video, for that got removed from RUclips even though it was Vinland gameplay. I really hope they can change.
I'd argue that Nintendo DON'T know how to make games...they've been making the same shit since what? The gamecube era? I mean I like Mario and Zelda as much as the next guy...but how long can you ride that train before no one is interested anymore?
Thing is, their bad reputation comes almost exclusively from bad decisions by the higher-ups in the company. Nintendo's game designers and developers are INSANELY good at their jobs. They very clearly know what they're doing. There is no better way to show this than with Super Mario Sunshine. That game was obviously VERY rushed. It is full of bugs, and full of bad stages and gameplay elements that the developers simply didn't have time to polish. But despite all of that, they still managed to make Super Mario Sunshine extremely fun. Because they understood that under the time frame, they NEEDED to make sure the movement system was as fun as possible. Which is exactly what they did, they made sure that Mario's movement was fully realized and polished. The simple act of moving around in that game, is very fun. Nintendo's higher-ups are simply out of touch. If it weren't for their immensely skilled game designers and developers, I have no doubt in my mind that they would've gone bankrupt a LONG time ago.
I don't know what you're thinking by saying Nintendo makes good games. They haven't made a good game since 2017 or so. Breath of the wild was a Wii U game *so was the Mario kart game they're still operating on. No F zero no Mario no donkey Kong they spit on old fans every chance they get. * This last Nintendo direct was evidence of that
Dark Souls III is also still overpriced after years. This is not only Nintendo. And getting games for reasonable prices means for a gamer to have a subscription service like GamePass and other means to see some value for as little money as possible. There is no getting games for a good price tag without being part of something.
Do you realize that his music's already been reuploaded and somehow Nintendo can take down the reuploaded music mainly because it was a person that was impersonating them. The only frustrating part about it is the RUclips bot that's defending it
@@M64bros aslong you don't port the music its fine ive never seen Nintendo take down remixes Silva right he has a shitpost channel with the same exact name so when Nintendo was after him they should have seen that channel and i mean it has Nintendo artwork so like Nintendo if they where malicious they would take him too but they don't because he fits under "remix"
@@stijngryp2589 true. However there is also another thing that's confusing. Since people re-upload his music I'm surprised Nintendo hasn't taken down the reuploads?
I have 2 fangames in mind that Nintendo shot down : am2r a fangame of the classics metroid and I believe the other one is called pokemon uranium. Those are both fangames that took years to develop and were made without any revenues, the games were free. This is dumb and by thinking about it two seconds this would have been a great publicity for Nintendo games or even ideas to take inspiration from.
The fan content shut down actually hurts me so badly
Imagine being a fan of Nintendo and their work, spending years of your life making a non profit game of a franchise they own just because you care about it that much. And to have it all shut down in an instant by the very same company.
Yeah, attacking fan games literally is attacking your most dedicated fans
@@htwo1 They literally shot down AM2R as it finished development after years of hard work. As much as I love Nintendo's works, I can't support them anymore. They're so vicious to their fanbase its unreal. Didn't they also start DMCAing artwork from twitter at one point too?
@@htwo1 Two leave and 9 more join. Have fun screaming into the void.
@@YaboiGrunty ok heres the thing: if you "advertise" something as a remake then that would imply that the game would be a superior option because thats the definition of a remake (making a older product and improving it and adapting it for newer hardware)
make fangames all you want but remakes/porting music to a platform like youtube is where i draw the line
also thats the one that broke the camels back?
their are litterly so manny takedowns over the years but the one where you can argue if its justifide is going to far?
they have (i think) on more than one acasion accidentally used deviant art in their games like Super Smash Bros Ultimate and as far as i know the art is still up
Nintendo doesn't deserve their community. It's amazing how they can create great, different games while being horrible at handling anything fan-related since ever.
Same for any large company. When something goes mainstream, ditch it before it ditches you. Same for Disney, Marvel, DC, Naughty Dog, and many more
Well, the good games part has also died out now.
@@annigram I hate Nintendo but that’s just a lie
@@kha0ticdud3 switch sports
mario strikers battle league
mario golf super rush
@@annigram Sucka those are three games, two of them aren’t even main lines. Mario sports games now kinda suck, I’ll give you that, but we still have games like botw 1 and 2, splatoon 2 and 3, actual mainline Mario games, xenonblade the list goes on
Nintendo would send a cease and desist to the entire country of Italy for having people named Mario and Luigi if they could.
That is not even realistic and will never happen
😂😂😂😂
@@M64bros You say that now, but you could wake up one day and see it as a breaking news story. I wouldn't put it past them.
@@christianbethel oh wow, That would absolutely be devastating!
*That's completely unrealistic and made up!*
@@M64bros Nintendo, pls log in your real accout
You forgot to mention that nintendo blocked off cloud saves and forces people to use the online membership to use them
I literally didn't know this, that's so scummy lol
@Master Of Galaxies It's a corporation. I get that you're a nintendo fan, but don't personify a billion dollar corporation. They don't have feelings, or hopes and dreams. It is a company.
I remember when Switch Online was first revealed, I was absolutely baffled at that. They blocked CLOUD SAVES behind a subscription?! Yes. They did. I’d say that was the beginning of my growing resentment to Nintendo. Imagine you want to backup your phone on a cloud save only for it to say “You just bought our phone now pay an ongoing subscription to actually keep a backup of your stuff also fuck you.”
@@annigram not to mention locking classic games behind a subscription
@@ThomastheDankEngine8900 not to mention them locking sega games behind the door too.
I bet they forced sega to do this or something.
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boi
They've actually been doing stuff like this since they first entered the industry. Something like increasing costs on cartridges and refusing to switch from them due to their patent, the old CEO talking down to Playstation JRPG fans, and cancelling games like Star Fox 2 because it was so good that it made N64 games look bad.
In the 90's it was a lot more common, but every other company changed their ways while Nintendo stayed behind
yes the OLD CEO he is no longer a figure of the company
this is like saying Germany is still guilty of what Hitler did
and i hope we both know that that isn't true (extreme example but you get the point)
@@stijngryp2589 My point is that Nintendo has always been terrible at PR. Same with Germany. Doesn't change anything as there are many people still at Nintendo just as bad as him with a lot of power. Hence... FreeMelee.
Don't know if there are still people in Germany who support previous laws, but wouldn't be surprised to see it still be advocated.
@@stijngryp2589 Well there are examples of decisions made by nintendo in the last 2 years that the consumers hate
@@Freefork my point was just saying that i think its not right to dig up old history when the people responsible aren't relevant anymore yet still use it to blame the company like its not like you can remove history yes it happened but why do you bring it up when all your doing is adding extra logs to the fire
I still think its crazy that Sega is so cool with fan work but Nintendo isn't. But good video my guy!
It’s no wonder that saying has popped up: “Sega will do what Nintendon’t”
well i remember a video of someone talking about Sega taking down an intire site because fan games where there
my memory of what happened exactly is vauqe on that one, but i know it involved Sega taking down a website and i remember seeing a comment of someone saying "this brings a hole new meaning to Sega does what Nintendon't" and it was recently, i'm talking post Sonic Mania
@@stijngryp2589 Too vague buddy. If you want to paint a narrative that Nintendo is the perfect company like the apologist you are, use actual evidence. Going "WELL... I think Sega did something like it... but I conveniently forgot everything so you can't look it up and prove me wrong. Whoops!" You must have so much value.
@@Freefork look i know i can't proof it but i genually don't remember
if you don't believe me then i'll give you other sources of people i agree (mostly) with:
Omni (talked about the Joycon story)
Chuggaaconroy (Link to the past LP)
Arlo (talks regularly about these things)
Demeech (is known for making Nintendo rants and reviews)
a youtuber whose name i forgot but i remember a video he made "no Nintendo isn't evil but it isn't that simple" he talks about all the things that happened around the JoyBoys controversie
i looked up that video but i couldn't find it but maybe you can
is this still too vaque for you?
@@stijngryp2589 Is it too vague for me? Well, I don't quite remember. Years ago, I said kinda... but then maybe... and I had a source of information I couldn't cite... and yeah, but no.
Was that clearer?
Nintendo is the gaming equivalent to Disney to me. Pioneers in their respective mediums of entertainment, with the ability to create some of the most well designed, creative, and magical experiences possible through a massive lineup of iconic and beloved characters.
But on the other hand, they constantly stomp down on passionate fans trying to understand and appreciate their work, have scummy and greedy market practices, have next to no interest in preserving important parts of their legacies, and don't get me started on that really recent bullshit. I'm still amazed that there are people that throw themselves in the crossfire for faceless billion-dollar corporations like these.
I will always love what Nintendo has done for the games industry and what their games stand for, but you can love something and still point out its faults, because that means you care about them and want them to get better. They certainly have plenty of room to improve, and I hope they realize how to before it's too late.
Nintendo and Disney are both basically IP trolls at this point, hoarding "intellectual property" so they don't have to innovate much. We desperately need to reform IP law not just in America, but worldwide. Honestly, we need to go back to 28 year terms (or shorter than that) for copyright. Nintendo, Disney, and other corporations are certainly the worst offenders, but even if we take huge corporations out of the equation, these long terms fly in the face of the spirit of intellectual property law--the grandkids of innovators can profit for doing nothing, all in the interest, ironically, of promoting innovation.
If it's too late
Call Nintendo a J*p
Disney is waaayyy worse
@@gdawg1585 how?
They also both have a history of being philosophically behind the times by a lot, you might say.
What's more disturbing is that there's still people that will defend this company's actions. You can feasibly justify one or two things in this video or cite them as honest mistakes, but to pretend that all of these things don't add up to a company who revile a large portion of their most loyal fans is being what we like to call a Nintendrone. An insult that is very funny.
Surprisingly some of those who defend Nintendo make hacks for Nintendo games. It really baffles me. Intact I know one who wants to add drum to his hack to prevent real copys of the game from being made so it only runs on everdrives and emulation. All while claiming anyone who puts the game on a real cart is violating Nintendo and his copyright which is funny because he can not actually copyright his hack because it is Nintendos code.
Almost like the left.
If you ask me, this type of “why do other people do things I don’t like” always come from shitty boring people who had nothing better to do in their shitty boring life than dissing others to feel good about themselves.
@@youbube No, it's nothing like the left.
Touch grass.
I understand all these decisions from a business point of view. Nintendo is a business not our friend.
I shouldn't have to pay a subscription fee to play 20-40 year old games that I could buy 1-2 generations ago.
Nintendo online is overall just stupid. Buying a 300 Euro console, paying for a Wifi connection, paying 60 Euros for the game itself and then still having to pay for the ability to actually play the game you just bought is just... to much. If a game is fullprice, I shouldn´t have to pay even more just so I can acces all the content the game has.
Yeah when it comes to older games its better to just emulate on PC or modded consoles and maybe collect if you can afford it
It isn't just a Nintendo problem but an industry wide issue... of course Nintendo just wants you to buy the games over and over again
Nintendo hates emulation so much that you can't even play their **free** mobile games on PC emulators (I have low phone storage ok). Not sure how that affects them but I might be missing something I guess.
Well that's the thing, it doesn't affect them. At all. Their bottom line isn't impacted whatsoever by you using an emulator to play a free mobile game. The reason they're so heavy handed with emulation is to try and send a message to people that want to use them or want to host them on their sites
@@htwo1 apperenrly there is a reason why nintendo is like this
Gabe Newell Quote
The easiest way to stop piracy is not by putting antipiracy technology to work. It's by giving those people a service that's better than what they're receiving from the pirates.
I love how sega and nintendo are like the exact opposite, sega loves their communities while nintendo actually hates their fans, segas games are mostly mediocre while nintendo makes some genuine bangers, sega allows their games to be on alot of different platforms while nintendo will sue someone for using an emulator etc
My opinion on emulation is pretty simple. If you already own the game it's OK. If the original publisher of the game is not selling the game anymore or not selling a console it can be played on anymore, it is OK. Which, well, I will say melee 100% falls under. I genuinely think this is the most fair rule for emulation.
Unfortunately Nintendo doesn't agree with you. They want sites that host emulators or roms to be afraid
well i 100% agree you have to know that their has to be a legal definition in order for a company to agree which i would state: each console maker is defined in generations (each company is entitled to their own generation line)(each console is one generation)(handhelds have their own generation line)(hybrids count as both) anything released 2 generations ago is fair game
+ if the current system has no backwards compatibilety and it can reasoneble be expected that games from 1 generation ago aren't getting ported to the current system then it is allowed that that generation gets emulated
sometimes i feel like Wario himself runs this company considering how fucking greedy it is
wouldn’t be surprised.
Canonically, Wario owns a video game company so it sort of makes sense 🤣
not even wario would be this scummy though
This happened to me today:
I just bought the Mario Kart 8 Deluxe Booster Pass thinking I would get the 4x Bonus Points deal they're having until the end of April 2023, but since I bought a download code instead of eShop funds, I didn't get them.
I called Nintendo to ask if I could have The rest of the reward points. The representatives I talked to at Nintendo pointed me to some terms that were only on one page of the web site (not the item's purchase page), and when I tried to ask what's the difference between buying a download code and buying eShop funds from a retailer, a supervisor said I was being "disrespectful." So yeah, Nintendo's evil. I'm not planning on buying any more Nintendo stuff that isn't pre-owned.
I've gotten copyright strikes from Nintendo for simply mentioning games that were on a Nintendo console. No game footage, no music. They weren't even games actually owned by Nintendo! But, I'm a minor league RUclipsr so, my videos just go bye bye. My personal favorite was when they tried to claim a video tour of a Minecraft server I was hosting because the server was called "Minecraft Castlevania". They hit a sort of brick wall because, obviously, Konami owns Castlevania. LoL x_x
Wow, that's amazingly sh!1 even for Nintendo standards
If I was behind this video, the video would probably be 13 hours instead of minutes.
same
Me: Pays for 60$ game (Splatoon 3)
Nintendo: You gotta use switch online to play online
Me: but isn’t that basically the whole game?
Nintendo: “MONEY MONEY MONEY NOW”
Most be funny
In a rish man's world
Abba
Nintendo been this way as far back as the 80s where they had a huge iron grip over third-party support where not only they force the third license companies to make only 5 games a year for the NES but also told any gaming stores that if they sell any unlicensed Nintendo games they would stop sending them any more Nintendo items. That's why very little third license games on Sega Master System and killed Atari 7800 to a point Atari was making unofficial NES games under the TENGEN label games. This also the main reason that many third-party companies jump ship for the Sony PS1 over the N64 and never look back at Nintendo the same way again.
then why did make games for them if it was so bad
+ company's that where very prominant like Capcom still support Nintendo to this very day, im pretty sure they even made a couple of smash games
Nintendo aside from the Iwata era is garbage!
@@ThomastheDankEngine8900 what a nice way to talk about something complety unrelated
@@stijngryp2589 this is a video about how Nintendo hates its fans. The reason is they always did except for when Iwata was CEO.
How is that unrelated?
@@ThomastheDankEngine8900 the comment speaks of the NES regulation not how Nintendo is bad
also wasn't the Iwata age a very long time for Nintendo?
+ i was responding to a comment, if i was talking about the video i would have made my own comment
And that's why I rip all of my Nintendo games myself, so I don't have them on my ass for downloading games from rom sites. I am against having current games on currently supported consoles on rom sites, because that DOES affect their bottom line. But if the games are no longer sold or no longer possible to play without emulation, it literally doesn't affect them all. Emulation is super important for preservation, so I am all for emulators for that
Wow. What an amazing video. No other RUclipsr (in my opinion) has given as good as an explanation on Nintendo as you have. I’m actually hooked on watching your videos now and I just wanted to say excellent job! You earned yourself a sub, and I hope you have good success with RUclips in the future!
The shutdown of Another Metroid 2 Remake is another fan-game PR disaster that really stings. At least it's sorta justified in that they were already remaking Metroid 2, but still, the passion behind that game was palpable. I also think Pokemon Uranium was another high profile fan game they DMCA'd?
Fan Games don't have nearly the effect y'all think it has. What a joke.
@@Commonsenseisntcommon34 Yeah man that's why people have been making ROM hacks for Pokemon and Mario for like two decades right?
I still got to play am2r and I even seen there be fan updates for it. As in, people besides the original am2r creator were adding on to it, and I've even seen a multiplayer mod of it. So there's that at least
I feel like we could have easily started living in a dystopian universe where Nintendo would legally strike you down for simply talking about their games without permission.
"Oh, you like talking about Mario, do you have a license for that?"
Given the current state of the world,and political insanity going about, don't be surprised if they do that.
As a Nintendo fan this hurts so bad, knowing that some people working in the company don't get their say on anything. I bet there is some good people there, but the executives are shutting them up
True. We shall try to make our own mascot and video game cobsole. I do know where to start.
Started watching you because of your “reading celeste reviews so you dont have to” gotta say your content is actually really decent. Keep it up!
tbf, Nintendo has a reputation for shitting on fans. Whenever someone's making a fan project, they shut it down. Ironically, this actually happened with several Roblox games. A good few years back, there were these free to play Roblox games called Project Pokemon and Pokemon brick Bronze, which were basically just 3D Pokemon games on Roblox. Of course, Nintendo caught wind of their existence, and had the creators of the games shut them down. Same thing happened with a Pokemon fangame called Pokemon Uranium, which was available for free on Gamejolt, until (You guessed it) Nintendo found out about it and pulled the plug. It's sort of widespread knowledge that if you even so much as try to create a fangame or emulate an old game of theirs, they'll come down on you with extreme cruelty, and will accept no compromise. To them, you either pay them for their games and consoles, regardless of how old they are, or you don't get anything
This happened with a minecraft mod called pixelmon (a mod that adds pokemons and pokemons mechanics to minecraft) too
Yeah they seem to not understand that their brand having a high reputation and having happy fans is way more valuable than the short term revenue of getting royalties from fan games, or money from lawsuits
Brick Bronze was great, I played it since alpha lol.
@@pijuka I don't think it was ever actually finished. From what I remember, Nintendo killed it before it was finished
@@michaelbk0076 yeah it never got to the final gym / final trainers. i think it got DMCA'd sometime after the genesect update.
Me from the future ... They f*cked it up 🥲
In other news: *Humans breathe air.*
Nintendo's online components are so terrible that the only time I ever take my Switch off of airplane mode is to buy/download games that I've seen are on sale.
Plot twist from the future.
They fucked it up.
It's so funny that Nintendo is strongly anti-emulation but the Switch is the only modern console that can be emulated rn
I was a Nintendo player a long time ago. They began their shit a long time ago. I no longer buy their consoles. I refuse to touch their games. I avoid Nintendo like the plague.
I simply don't want to support that company directly or indirectly. I even refuse to play Nintendo games with friends when they want to.
Heck, I even won't play Nintendo games with my sister's kids. Sure they can play them. But I won't join them. I'm not forcing them not to. I'm just... not interested. If they want me to join them in games on the sofa, make it any other console. Just not Nintendo. They quickly learned this even though I haven't told them. They figured out that I'm "boring" when the Nintendo console is on but not if any of their other consoles is on (Xbox, PlayStation). They don't know I'm an active Nintendo refuser. They just figured that I love playing with em when it's not Nintendo. They haven't asked me why yet and It'll remain that way. Once they ask why and are old enough to understand national economy I'll explain. Until then they can enjoy their Nintendo fun in their own way. I'm not taking that away from them.
*Being a Nintendo fan is like being in an abusive relationship!*
Me: I wrote them a letter and told them im a RUclipsr and surprisingly they responded to me and I made a video about it. (Yes, I actually did it)
As someone who has been in a abusive relationship, yes,yes it is.
@@M64bros Are you winning son?
Nintendo needs to get sued for half their money and return to everyone who were suppose to get that profit
Copyright laws are bs if they don't want piracy then sell the games if a lawyer defending against Nintendo said everything in this videos the tables will turn nintendo will learn better i will stop pirating if nintendo does that also allow fan games on actual systems
I refuse to be a fan of playstation,pc and x box nintendo is for me and not everything else so i honestly wish they learn their lesson one day i can't stress this out enough off my chest
I don't know if anyone remembers this, but I heard a lot of things about how Nintendo hated things like Blockbuster because it allowed people to rent games and Nintendo can't make money off that. As in they padded out games like Pokemon and did a bunch of other stuff to undermine Blockbuster. I think they even tried to get a lawsuit involved.
They did actually, and they lost lol
Nintendo: making some of the best games and worst pr decisions in the gaming industry since 1889.
Back in the day where they made playing cards they were still bastards haha
@@htwo1 can you explain that please ive never heard of Nintendo being bad in their card age
@@stijngryp2589 No. How about you do your research? Ignorance is a terrible reason to be loyal.
@@Freefork i'll be honest i have never heard story's about Nintendo in the card age so i assumed they where a neutral company back then besides i can tell you support fair critisism so you could do way better research than i ever could
i mean you know about Square Enix X Nintendo story's, how they treat third parties, and i am going to assume that you know story's of Nintendo in the card age because you apparantly know that there is research to be done
also i just want to know what happened how is that "being loyal"?
@@stijngryp2589 Look up Business Insider's 130 years of Nintendo history and research any minor details you don't know.
Otherwise, going around constantly trying to change the subject to protect your favorite company and not doing some googling on your own like literally EVERYONE else in this comments section(except 2 other goofy dudes) will get you nowhere.
Big Rip to AM2R. Could've been the sonic mania to the metroid series
Nintendo has actually partnered and sponsored smash tournaments before and it actually never really did anything to increase prize money for the players or the quality of the event (Genesis 7 being the first that comes to mind). Melee players say they actually hate when Nintendo sponsors their tournaments because it means Nintendo will inforce rules that actively make the experience worse such as not letting players use USF or emulate it on Wii for a more stable experience and quality on monitors. They just use it as free advertising and to make it seem like they care but they actually don't.
Sega still does what Nintendon't, by giving a shit about their fans.
Nintendo has always been an incredibly arrogant company. This is the same company that turned down Sony's proposition for a partnership (creating their biggest market rival), the same company that laughed in the faces of Microsoft when they proposed buying them out, and the same company that overreacts if anyone dares to talk about their IP's in any medium they don't have direct control of. Sometimes they've done amazing things and set many trends in the industry, and other times their own hubris has almost been their downfall - and could be again in the future.
the PG circuit worries me more than it gives me hope because i fear they will use it as an excuse to shut down more tournaments, in addition to running without basic QoL mods like UCF
That's definitely a possibility, right. They could just say "only our official tournament is allowed to exist", which would crush the scene even more
The melee tournament situation was so dumb it hurt. From what I believe in order to emulate on dolphin you need the actual game files meaning you either had to find a rom or actually own the game (I think we all know which option the people who played in tournament used)
"Nintendo is a bad company that makes good games". Hit the nail on the head with that one. Their hardware is pretty good as well (not in technical capacity, but in actually satisfying the needs it is presented for). They are the most customers-disrespecting gaming company though, and that is an astonishing achievement considering that there are a lot greedier companies in terms of lootboxes, microtransactions etc. Wish there wasn't such a "choose your own poison" mentality necessary when it comes to big gaming brands, tbh.
Would recommend the Switch Lite to anyone looking for a good mobile indie machine, though, that is what is worth encouraging.
Their games are shit,except Zelda
@@freebird3926 Zelda (this gen) is also overrated, it's a puzzlefest with a pretty open world that doubles as a crafting simulator and has a very poor combat. There is creativity for the sake of creativity in it, which for me is a poor goal. It has its attractions but it is also mid, which is not bad, gods know gaming can do a lot worse than mid.
@@yavorvlaskov5404 ok , but tell me who play Mario??
I tried out Mario cart , odyssey
I can’t play more then 15 min each , some kind of shit for 60$, I can’t understand this
@@freebird3926 oh yeah don't get me started on the pricing, they have no excuse for not properly discounting games. I liked Odyssey for the nostalgia factor and that is all that is good about it, shouldn't have been more than 30 dollars.
This is a company that I wanted to support for life. Ever since they started sending out cease and desist letters to their biggest fans, I've decided to end my support for Nintendo. Such a shame that a creative company really hates their supporters!
One time at E3 (2017/2018 I believe?) Reggie, in a crowd of people demo-ing Mario Tennis Aces, asked everyone to shout out what they wanted next from Nintendo. I hopelessly shouted "F-Zero," and another hopeless attendee shouted "Mother/Earthbound." Reggie looked in our directions, closed his eyes and shook his head.
We remain hopeless to this day.
Not gonna lie: I sometimes wish Nintendo would sell off the franchises they don't care about anymore to other companies to do great things that they (Nintendo) won't.
If Nintendo had it their way, the internet wouldn't exist at all.
Super glad to hear Stickerbrush Symphony on the video
This is a really good summation of the situation. I appreciate your perspective on things. It is unfortunate when a company has to crack down on fan games when they secretly think it's cool, but Nintendo goes out of it's way to hunt people down for pennies. That's probably the thing I hope you talk about in the future, concerning how fan projects that might get the okay from a company, but later have to be cease and desisted otherwise they lose the copyright.
It’s absolutely criminal how they shut down the Wii U and 3DS eshops seemingly out of knowhere for no reason whatsoever.
2:20 Welp.. that sucks to see. This tournament was cancelled, and has had a major affect on “nintendos” smash scene
So about the Panda thing.........
Nintendo is the biggest "love-hate" relationship I have.
Me it is more of a: "Old friend who wants to be cool so he treats everyone like garbage so we're not cool anymore" relationship. Can't love you once you cross the line. To be honest, their games are super mediocre and Playstation has just as innovative titles... but that company sucks too.
I'll play Indies until they get corrupt.
@Master Of Galaxies Nah. Analogy doesn't work for Nintendo. They really want to be cool now they're on top and will do anything to get higher, with or without anyone looking.
If i had a penny for every time nintendo either sued someone or send a ceise and desist order i would propably have a few dollars wich isent a lot but its weird that it happens so often
Limited-time offers (Mario All-stars 3D and FE Anniversary)
Lack of messaging in-console or voice chat
It’s funny to me how people call Sony anti consumer when Nintendo exists. Not saying Sony is pro consumer but definitely aren’t the worst of the big 3 towards customers.
12:45
this didn't age well, didn't it?
I'd say to grossly oversimplify it; they've been lazily coasting on a generation of nostalgia while constantly overreaching their legal boundaries.
I was a fan of them back when the gamecube was their newest release, but when they started hanging the smash tournaments I've turned my back on them since.
I just found this in my recommended and this was a very good video, keep up the good work! I subbed.
Some more stuff you might’ve forgot to add, they’re also shutting down the Eshops for the DS AND WiiU and for what? The “cycle”…you won’t even be able to get those games back on the switch and that just makes it all the more disappointing. 😐
Maybe someone needs to slap the current CEO of Nintendo to get him to fix this shit
i am so mad how nintendo shits on fan made games, such as pokémon brick bronze. that game was my childhood. however i am glad that sega is really in touch with the community, and helped the creation of a fan made sonic game on roblox.
Something else that Nintendo changed due to use of their brand was SuperMarioLogan. I think it was early 2020 or 2021, but im not sure. Nintendo had sued SuperMarioLogan for use of their characters, and they had to change all the plushies, thumbnails and the channel appearance. It was shortened to SML, the plushies were replaced with puppets and some of the characters are so different I couldn't even recognise some of them. Mario changed to Marvin, Rosalina changed to Rose, Toad changed to Lil T (i think) and Black Yoshi changed too, but I forgot what they changed his name to. That's all I know for now though...
well according to other people SML was a very bad person to his fans and i think their was even a news section about him at some point which would really hurt the Mario brand
@@stijngryp2589 I’m pretty sure the reason a lot of people were pissed about it was because SML did inappropriate things with the Mario characters causing them to get a C&D, yet SMG4 does the exact same stuff and they get off scott-free.
@@farmandfamilyveterinaryser6760 I’m aware of the Lawsuit arc, but I’m sure it was just for an arc. I don’t think Nintendo actually threatened to sue SMG4 during that time.
I think the more damning thing is that Nintendo doesnt even sponsor tournaments for their newest and most populous smash game which is ultimate.
It's sad how people just take this total abuse and yet don't care. Then they use a stupid response like "oh well it's not the devs fault that the legal team is so bad", which is just wrong
Same with every other AAA company. People need to learn to understand the power in their actions... or wallets.
My only excuse is that my parents will be pissed if I pirate newer titles.
12:27 is pretty much how I'd summerise the company
good vid man :)
They should be forced to sell the games or give customers a way to buy it officially if they are allowed to sue for emulation. If I can't pay you to get a game, then it's YOUR fault and people should be allowed to emulate
It’s funny, not even the supported Panda tournament lasted.
Nintendo with NES Emulators: WHAT...... YOU CAN BUY THE GAME IN EBAY OR SMTH
So…greed and overwhelming incompetence? Yeah, sounds like pretty standard company crap to me.
Support Nintendo developers, not Nintendo corporate.
It is hard when emulation dies and when companies try to take it down. You then have to have the hardware or buy it online or retro store. I think it's good to support your local retro shops.
And you know one thing i believe it's wrong? PRINCESS PEACH REDESIGN.
Peach CLASSIC design was my childhood and i love it but when Mario Party 4 came out they RUINED her but changing this awful dress and that's why i'm NOT giving attention to her on the later Mario games (i enjoy them) as well with DAISY REDESIGN. I did not expected this change. Hopefully they need to bring back the classic designs.
A year late but to add on to the 2013 EVO shutdown
The smash tournament was there for being the game that made the most money for a breast cancer research charity
Online in games (im pretty sure) is entirely implemented by the developer and it's on them to set up servers for it which is one of the reasons its ridiculous to need to pay to play online, but it means if a game has bad online, that's a problem with the game's online servers, not the platform because "xbox live" for example now is basically just the term used for the subscription because if you're not playing a Microsoft developed game, the online could be hosted by the developer, or any hosting company.
12:27 I am still convinced that if Nintendo partnered up with content creators, the Wii U would have been much more of a commercial success than it became. Imagine if pewdiepie back in the days was playing on the Wii U and singing its praises, he could have helped sell hundreds of thousands of consoles just from how insanely large his fanbase was. By the end of 2014, pewds had over 33 million subs. Even if only 0.1% of his subscriber base bought a Wii U, that's still over 300 000 consoles.
It's so painful how ass backwards Nintendo can be, it's so frustrating seeing how sh!1 they are as a company compared to how amazing they can be as a developer.
The problem nintendo has with emulation and fan games is that they're afraid of their ips becoming generalized and losing them. So they have to protect them because if they allow people to freely create content surrounding their games that isn't made by them, then it could jeopardize their rights to some of the characters if someone legitimately did make a game using their characters and likeness and selling it for profit, if they then rightfully tried to sue, it could result in that character becoming generalized and free use thus crumbling their market on exclusive rights. (For instance if this happened to mario or pokemon becoming free use it could legitimately destroy their company financially because of all of the people who could now use these characters)
These games are 30 years old. Nintendo is doing this because they want people to buy new games instead of playing retro ones. (unless you pay 50 dollars a year, of course)
9:38 the Sonic Mania devs weren't just fangame devs pulled off the streets, they've been a part of Sega for a long while now.
Not a Nintendo player, but given how they milk their IPs for decades, I'd argue that outdated and fan games could directly compete with the new ones, impacting their bottom line. However, if it's actually a problem for them, it's their fault and not the customers'.
Man I'm so glad you made this video. I really love so many nintendo IPs but with the age of the switch I just hate them as a company and refuse to support them, and spread word of their anti-consumer practices as much as I can. I can't get over how much it hurts that for example as much as I love the zelda and splatoon IPs I will never be able to enjoy playing them again because of the lack if accessibility options provided by nintendo. Nintendo doesn't make a version of the switch to cater to the part of their audience that wants a higher end stationary experience over a low powered more restricted mobile one, and before it can be said that that's not what the switch was built upon they've had 6 years to create variants and or improve upon the switches design. However nintendo still hasn't taken any action to include the vast majority of the gaming world into their games, so until nintendo grows up as a company and stops being a greedy, anti-consumer, backwards company I'll just sit here in sadness at all the opportunities nintendo doesn't take to improve themselves as a company.
This didn't talk about Joycon drift, and the fact that Nintento refuses to fix it or even acknowledge that it's a problem because doing so would mean losing a lawsuit?
Nintendo consider themselves a software company first, because their revenue comes mainly from selling games and not from selling hardware. It's only natural they don't like emulators.
If they didn't ban major events that use emulators, using emulators will become kind of a norm, leading to a future, in which Nintendo won't survive.
thats why i will always pirate and always endorse pirating nintendo games they only have themselves to blame
People: *Raises money for charity in memorial of someone who died, aswell as giving free advertising to Nintendo*
Nintendo: Yo wtf that is our money
Top 10 most heartless moments
People will pirate 3ds and Wii U games because the game price will increase for the two consoles because the shop will close 3ds consoles prices are growing nice going Nintendo what a slap in the face
Important: I know this is an old video posted a year ago, but the new bs Nintendo is gargage. My main example is pointcrow. Please for the love of god respect someone rather than take away most of their videos. I was lucky to have recorded one of the video, for that got removed from RUclips even though it was Vinland gameplay. I really hope they can change.
Moon channel explained about the situation very well which led to pointcrow unlisting his video
10:15 Celeste just came so the Switch, so now it's illegal to post any of its soundtracks anywhere
I’m disappointed that this isn’t a 2 hour video put through a speed-up software
I'd argue that Nintendo DON'T know how to make games...they've been making the same shit since what? The gamecube era? I mean I like Mario and Zelda as much as the next guy...but how long can you ride that train before no one is interested anymore?
Their 2d has remained pretty much the same since 1983 their 3d content since 1996
@@bamban_garcia5562 hell I was trying to give them a little more credit but you are right. Their 2D hasn’t changed since Mario 3 😂
Thing is, their bad reputation comes almost exclusively from bad decisions by the higher-ups in the company. Nintendo's game designers and developers are INSANELY good at their jobs. They very clearly know what they're doing. There is no better way to show this than with Super Mario Sunshine. That game was obviously VERY rushed. It is full of bugs, and full of bad stages and gameplay elements that the developers simply didn't have time to polish. But despite all of that, they still managed to make Super Mario Sunshine extremely fun. Because they understood that under the time frame, they NEEDED to make sure the movement system was as fun as possible. Which is exactly what they did, they made sure that Mario's movement was fully realized and polished. The simple act of moving around in that game, is very fun.
Nintendo's higher-ups are simply out of touch. If it weren't for their immensely skilled game designers and developers, I have no doubt in my mind that they would've gone bankrupt a LONG time ago.
Nintendo is like that one old guy in your neighborhood that gives you cookies sometimes, but hes also kind of an asshole
I don't know what you're thinking by saying Nintendo makes good games. They haven't made a good game since 2017 or so. Breath of the wild was a Wii U game *so was the Mario kart game they're still operating on. No F zero no Mario no donkey Kong they spit on old fans every chance they get. * This last Nintendo direct was evidence of that
Nintendo blocking content now and pointcrow had to make a video about it
Hopefully mods will never die or emulation.
Overpricing their games despite being years old is another negative.
Dark Souls III is also still overpriced after years. This is not only Nintendo. And getting games for reasonable prices means for a gamer to have a subscription service like GamePass and other means to see some value for as little money as possible. There is no getting games for a good price tag without being part of something.
@@niemand7811dark souls 3 is almost always on sale
1:12 when the gamecube originally came out, the price was $100, and that one is $70, i say that's a good deal
Hard to lose profits on your bottom line when you don't sell the games that are being distributed for free
12:45 forshadowing lmao
Saying that it wouldn’t be the last time Nintendo would shut down a smash tournament was such a read
Nintendo switch is garbage lmaooooooooooooo 😂
Well the smash tournament deserve to be shut down after being exposed for having p3dos and pr3dators in it
@@M64bros cope lol
@@SwitchSucksAss Answered your own response didn't you?
@M64bros Keep coping that crash team rumble isn't coming to the Nintendo switch hahahaha 😂😂😂😂😂
I wish I was able to cease and desist Miyamoto's life to free the souls of the workers
You forgot to mention that Nintendo killed the ENTIRE GilvaSunner channel
Do you realize that his music's already been reuploaded and somehow Nintendo can take down the reuploaded music mainly because it was a person that was impersonating them. The only frustrating part about it is the RUclips bot that's defending it
im sorry but if your just porting music to your channel than im not gonna be mad when they take you down
@@stijngryp2589 I myself used Nintendo music but I always put a disclaimer on the description of my videos as always.
@@M64bros aslong you don't port the music its fine
ive never seen Nintendo take down remixes
Silva right he has a shitpost channel with the same exact name so when Nintendo was after him they should have seen that channel and i mean it has Nintendo artwork
so like Nintendo if they where malicious they would take him too but they don't because he fits under "remix"
@@stijngryp2589 true. However there is also another thing that's confusing. Since people re-upload his music I'm surprised Nintendo hasn't taken down the reuploads?
I have 2 fangames in mind that Nintendo shot down : am2r a fangame of the classics metroid and I believe the other one is called pokemon uranium. Those are both fangames that took years to develop and were made without any revenues, the games were free. This is dumb and by thinking about it two seconds this would have been a great publicity for Nintendo games or even ideas to take inspiration from.