They seem to be valuing consistent play a bit in this list, and Price was anything but that during some of his years. He still absolutely belongs in the list though.
How are you gonna put Lundquist at #9 AND LEAVE OUT PRICE IN TOP 25????? Dude. He had arguably the best prime of any goaltender ever and has a very similar if not better carrer then him. Just how. ESPN trashh. Even if you talk about his regression you put FLEURY on this over him.
@danielpanacek32 Arguably he did with a Hart Trophy and a Vezina. Yes Lundquist had better carrer stats in terms of SV% and GAA but also played on a much better Rangers team.
Malkin revision is pretty sad considering he was never viewed as that far away from Crosby/Ovechkin. He was always clearly that third best forward and has the hardware to back it up. Kane over Malkin is just silly.
Bergeron top 10 is valid. His overall stats show he is the best defensive forward of all time. He isn’t as good offensively as Datsyuk, but his longevity helps his case and being the Selke king. Also very clutch. Bergeron has become extremely underrated.
Ah, yes. Alex Ovechkin, the best RW of the 21st century. And Patrick Kane, the best LW of the 21st century. How the hell do these lists even get approved?
Mackinnon at 6 is i guess understandable. Hes won a Hart, won a Cup and has a 900 point carrer with 1.13 PPG. You gotta take a little more time though at least to put him that high.
@@MikeBartner Yeah. Datsyuk continues to be underrated. Malkin was literally like a top 5 player for a decade. Brodeur arguably the best goaltender ever
Love Kaner but Malkin should be over him slightly, and Lidstrom not higher is a joke he should be third and over mcdavid as of now, Mcdavid will pass him but Lidstrom had the better career so far
It might be as easy as some of these players that are still playing are more popular then those who have retired - plus that some fans for most of the time rate "their generations" superstars as goats no matter what sport and so on. Plus some (ESPN in this case) do maybe have some personal favs, but to not have Datsyuk in top 10 is a bit wierd. Other from that I liked your reaction(s) to this Mr Bartner.
Malkin being 5 spots below Kane is hilarious, given they have the exact same resume awards wise, and the only difference is Malkin has more points in less games.
Fleury is the most overrated goalie in the history of the NHL! dude got carried by god tier teams on the penguins for years and he was mid asf for so many years. People are so delusional when it comes to fleury saying “he’s one of the best goalies all time” 😂😂😂😂 I die of laughter everytime I see that comment. I’d put Johnathan quick over him anyday
Mackinnon above guys like malkin and Datsyuk is so incredibly bad, bro has never won the ross and only has one hart which he arguably shouldn’t have won. Great player but wow they’re getting wayyyyy ahead of themselves here
Listen. I may HATE Matthews. But i have to say when you compare him to Ovi for what he projects to be by the end of his carrer. A selkie or 2. 2-3 Harts. A cup. 7-10 Rockets. Best goalscorer ever. Great defense. #1 C. That just bests him. However. I think at this moment in time Matthews is not close to there.
@@MikeBartner Yeah. I dont know what ESPN was thinking there. This is a guy who hasn't made it out of round 2 yet and has just ONE Hart. Not enough to really put him that high.
@@MikeBartner as someone who likes pens and Detroit I gotta say fluery is super overrated, he was bad in playoffs untill we got Matt Murray who won as the cups
Jonathan Toews and Carey Price both deserve to be on this list, especially over Fleury
Fleury always gets overhyped by the media
@@MikeBartnerFacts
No price is wild
They seem to be valuing consistent play a bit in this list, and Price was anything but that during some of his years. He still absolutely belongs in the list though.
Yup he should be on it and probably top 20
How are you gonna put Lundquist at #9 AND LEAVE OUT PRICE IN TOP 25????? Dude. He had arguably the best prime of any goaltender ever and has a very similar if not better carrer then him. Just how. ESPN trashh. Even if you talk about his regression you put FLEURY on this over him.
price did not have a better career than lundqvist
@danielpanacek32 Arguably he did with a Hart Trophy and a Vezina. Yes Lundquist had better carrer stats in terms of SV% and GAA but also played on a much better Rangers team.
Yup makes no sense Price should be top 20
so people like you get riled up espn doing its job
@@iLightSoundGeometry Yeah. Thank God I don't support them.
Jonathan quick and fluery over price is wild . That's a crime 😮😮😮
Indeed
Malkin revision is pretty sad considering he was never viewed as that far away from Crosby/Ovechkin. He was always clearly that third best forward and has the hardware to back it up.
Kane over Malkin is just silly.
Yup he was no doubt the 3rd best player in the league for half a decade
Bergeron top 10 is valid. His overall stats show he is the best defensive forward of all time. He isn’t as good offensively as Datsyuk, but his longevity helps his case and being the Selke king. Also very clutch. Bergeron has become extremely underrated.
Fair fair
where’s price
He wasn't good enough
Absurd he's not on it
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No disrespect to Mackinnon, but having him over some of these guys is too much, at least right now.
I would have him anywhere between 8th - 10th place, also Matthews is not top 20 not yet anyways.
Ah, yes. Alex Ovechkin, the best RW of the 21st century. And Patrick Kane, the best LW of the 21st century.
How the hell do these lists even get approved?
Captain Coverup isn't on there, and that warms my heart
Lidstrom has an argument to be #3 on the list
Agreed!
Wheres slater koekkoek
There's only one thing every hockey fan can agree on: ESPN SUCKS AT RANKING HOCKEY PLAYERS
Yup, makes for fun reactions though!
Not just Datsyuk, Kopitar is also insanely underrated.
No Price, Luongo or either Sedin is kinda nuts. Yeah, none of then won a cup, but if that's the case, why is Lundqist or matthews there?
Mackinnon at 6 is i guess understandable. Hes won a Hart, won a Cup and has a 900 point carrer with 1.13 PPG. You gotta take a little more time though at least to put him that high.
In 3-4 years sure but right now over guys like Datsyuk, Malkin and Brodeur is nuts
@@MikeBartner Yeah. Datsyuk continues to be underrated. Malkin was literally like a top 5 player for a decade. Brodeur arguably the best goaltender ever
They need to make a Top 50 because the top 25 has so many fringe guys that miss out
Can you do a video on the most injury-prone NHL players at some point? I really just need more excuses for my team being bad.
Thoughts on martin necas extension
Love Kaner but Malkin should be over him slightly, and Lidstrom not higher is a joke he should be third and over mcdavid as of now, Mcdavid will pass him but Lidstrom had the better career so far
Agreed
Lidstrom #1 in my heart that’s for sure
It might be as easy as some of these players that are still playing are more popular then those who have retired - plus that some fans for most of the time rate "their generations" superstars as goats no matter what sport and so on. Plus some (ESPN in this case) do maybe have some personal favs, but to not have Datsyuk in top 10 is a bit wierd. Other from that I liked your reaction(s) to this Mr Bartner.
ESPN treating Carey Price like the myth that he is 😂
Malkin being 5 spots below Kane is hilarious, given they have the exact same resume awards wise, and the only difference is Malkin has more points in less games.
Technically malkin has one more scoring title and 2 more seasons as an mvp runner up then kane also a much more dominant conn smythe run
Espn cant be taken seriously when it comes to hockey. Honestly the only people there that know anything are Wilbon and tony of pti
Where the actual fuck is price. Same skill if not better than lunqdvist
Agreed he's gotta be here
Jonathan Toews
ESPN is a joke. How many of their employees have watched a hockey game in the past decade? Probably 2 and both dont work there anymore 😂
My Top 25 Players of the 21st Century
Rip My List Apart 😂
1. Crosby
2. Ovechkin
3. McDavid
4. Lidstrom
5. Malkin
6. Pronger
7. Datsyuk
8. Kane
9. MacKinnon
10. Draisaitl
11. Thornton
12. Kucherov
13. Iginla
14. Brodeur
15. Karlsson
16. Stamkos
17. Chara
18. Makar
19. Niedermayer
20. Kopitar
21. Toews
22. Keith
23. Doughty
24. Lundqvist
25. Price
Honourable Mentions
Matthews
Kovalchuk
Weber
Giroux
H. Sedin
Hossa
Backstrom
Bergeron
Tavares
D. Sedin
Mackinnon 9 while Matthews not even top 25 is tuff and I ain’t no Leafs fan by any means
@@Mcbikey24 your not wrong, on a talent level Matthews is top 15 but the lack of playoff success brings him down some slots for me
Duncan Keith should be ahead of Chara.
I’m disappointed no views in 17 seconds
FALL OFF!!!!
Fleury is the most overrated goalie in the history of the NHL! dude got carried by god tier teams on the penguins for years and he was mid asf for so many years. People are so delusional when it comes to fleury saying “he’s one of the best goalies all time” 😂😂😂😂 I die of laughter everytime I see that comment. I’d put Johnathan quick over him anyday
No Patrick Marleau is a crime
Overrated highkey
This is probably a hot take but Kopitar & Toews> Bergeron. Fleury is also the most overrated goalie of the 21st century
WHERE IS CAREY PRICE WHAT THE FUCK
I agree Matthews at 16 is awful
he should be way higher
We’re the HELL is price…bro
Kucherov should be higher than McKinnon
Matthews is the second best goal scorer of the 2000’s when it’s all said and done he has a chance to be better then ovechkin
He doesn’t
@@Mcbikey24 why do u think so
Fair but he still has a long way to go
Toews??
Should be on it
No giroux is insane
No it is not
@@kellan5290 yes it is💀
@@pipoj5 considering they left our price, both sedins, luongo and others it 100% is not that crazy
@@kellan5290 i think having skaters and goalies on the same list is kinda stupid anyway
@@pipoj5 true
Mackinnon above guys like malkin and Datsyuk is so incredibly bad, bro has never won the ross and only has one hart which he arguably shouldn’t have won. Great player but wow they’re getting wayyyyy ahead of themselves here
Listen. I may HATE Matthews. But i have to say when you compare him to Ovi for what he projects to be by the end of his carrer. A selkie or 2. 2-3 Harts. A cup. 7-10 Rockets. Best goalscorer ever. Great defense. #1 C. That just bests him. However. I think at this moment in time Matthews is not close to there.
Agreed! When it's all said and done he will be top 40 ever but right now the guys he's ahead of insane
@@MikeBartner Yeah. I dont know what ESPN was thinking there. This is a guy who hasn't made it out of round 2 yet and has just ONE Hart. Not enough to really put him that high.
No Nick Backstrom is wild
Not really makes sense
@@MikeBartner L take, Backstrom had the most assists out of any player in the 2010s. Just underrated.
Hes a good player just kind of a guy.
Fleury is actually overrated bro got benched for two of his cups and somehow is over carey price and Pavel datsyuk
Crazy overrated
@@MikeBartner as someone who likes pens and Detroit I gotta say fluery is super overrated, he was bad in playoffs untill we got Matt Murray who won as the cups
This list sucks