Mjolner Heirophant Level 100 Update

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  • Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024

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  • @MWaever
    @MWaever 3 месяца назад +17

    Hey there Path of Evening.
    As a long time mana stacker myself (this would be my 8th league in a row doing so) I wanted to say thanks for posting your previous video and this one.
    I've had several new players that were struggling and converted them to mana stacker archmage mjolner hierophant, but the many nuances of the build made it difficult for many to grasp in its entirety, often resulting in very long QA sessions in my hideout.
    And unfortunately, as brilliant as Conner Converse is, he is not very good at making introductory guides to players that are not only new to mana stackers, but new to PoE in general.
    So far your guide is the best one that I know of on youtube, as an introductory and intermediary course to mana stacking hierophant, and I will continue to promote it to more people.
    I will also offer a bit of constructive criticism. You've obviously put a lot of research and currency into your build, and nothing you've said is strictly speaking erronous, but it's evident that the build is still new to you and you still have a few gaps in your knowledge. You didn't ask for this, but we're all here to learn right?
    - The main reason we don't take Mind Over Matter is not that it bricks the build, but that it is functionally void. Mana only protects life, not energy shield, and since we're running around with less than 100 hp, its benefit is infinitesimal.
    - Not getting the lightning mastery with 30% maximum mana applies to shock effect is a huge loss. This is not just for crit builds. If you notice right next to the Light Eater leech tree, there is another non-crit friendly lightning mastery version that even increases your shock by a further 50%. Remember, this effect is multiplicative with Overcharge, and overcharge alone is insufficient against any sort of difficult content to shock cap challenging rares. Getting these 4 points is literally the difference between shocking a rare for 25% or 65% with Shock Nova. This is quite literally 'lose 750 ES and mana, do 50% more damage against things that matter'.
    - Primal Spirit is only best in slot if you're having an easy time getting mana leech capped, something Overcharge+non-crit variants sometimes struggle with against bosses and rares, in particular with running any sort of delirium (ever since the removal of anomalous mana leech). Essence Sap is a very viable alternative, it raises your leech cap by 50% and makes it twice as easy to get there.
    - This is mostly a playstyle preference, but I strongly advice against NOT using Grace and/or a Jade Flask. The difference between 80% evasion and 7% is staggering to put it mildly. Of course, when you hit level 100 you're free to do as you please without consequence, but Grace offers significantly more overall survivability than Discipline for general mapping. You can even tattoo the one 10 dex note you get close to the starting area with a 5% chance to blind to increase this effect even further with virtually no downsides.
    - I'd do some double checking on the numbers on Elemental Mastery from Ash, Frost and Storm, especially if used in conjunction with Elemental Weakness and exposure from Awakened Lightning Penetration. Those 14% more damage are pretty generous I think, and even if they're not, 14% sound about as much-ish as you could expect from 4 points put directly into mana (i.e the Insightfulness tree or Deep Thoughts+Righteous Decree or even just a 4 point jewel slot) thanks to archmage, Arcane Cloak and an overall bigger mana pool, so I'm not sure there's as much benefit to be had as you think, outside of the first few weeks of a league where this mastery is actually very nice.
    - Any sort of crit build that doesn't involve Righteous Providence FF jewels (those are currently over 600 divs in total), or actually being an inquisitor (Yes, this can be done and is actually viable) with Sanctuary of Thought FF jewels (about 125 divs) is pointless and strictly inferior to Elemental Overload. You mentioned it as an option, but no, you sacrifice too many skill points for crit that you actually end up losing damage from having a low mana pool. Don't bother.
    Other than that, I completely agree with the upgrades that you gave yourself, especially reducing crit damage taken and your focus on managing your aps with cyclone. Both of these are essential and points of contention. Good work, and I hope to see even more in the future.

    • @Meisen1977
      @Meisen1977 3 месяца назад +3

      Absolutely love ppl like you sir! Respectful and helpful... props to you

    • @PathofEvening
      @PathofEvening  3 месяца назад +2

      Thanks for the feedback!

    • @OvErDoSeToXiC38
      @OvErDoSeToXiC38 3 месяца назад

      Thank you for that answer mate :-) would you have a pob for inquisitors ?

    • @MWaever
      @MWaever 3 месяца назад +1

      @@OvErDoSeToXiC38 there is no difference really! As an inquisitor however, you're going to have a lower mana and es pool, and your mana regent is going to be abysmal to the point where I personally had to use rings with t1 mana regen.

    • @arturucka1959
      @arturucka1959 3 месяца назад

      Wanted to mention about the shock increase mastery as well. Huge loss indeed!

  • @Krytos13
    @Krytos13 3 месяца назад +2

    Loving the videos on all fronts, the farming, the build stuff. all great!
    I've been running the same build, and one thing I noticed is that adorned jewels in place of split personalities were so close, that I swapped to more adorned jewels, then was able to optimize my pathing even better to pick up a couple other notables. felt waaay better.
    cheers

  • @muzmuz
    @muzmuz 3 месяца назад +2

    Livestream (GGG LIVE) will be July 18th and 3.25 start July 26th.

    • @PathofEvening
      @PathofEvening  3 месяца назад

      So far their only official statement is "We'll reveal all the details live during the GGG Live event around the middle of July. Stay tuned!"
      So it's a 50/50 shot, either it will be the 26th, or it won't!

    • @muzmuz
      @muzmuz 3 месяца назад

      @@PathofEvening For sure, but just based on historical trends and how specfic they are with wording July 26th seem very likely. Live streams are always the Thursday before launch which is always the following Friday. July 18th would qualify being "around the middle of July" and a Thursday with 26th being the last possible option to qualify for "looking at a late July release for the 3.25 expansion".

    • @gnptldr
      @gnptldr 3 месяца назад

      @@muzmuz agree with this cuz they always launch on Friday

  • @tazzy88TTV
    @tazzy88TTV 2 месяца назад

    Awesome detailed videos. I just built this build as well. Busy solo leveling now with breaches and shrines. Used my last currency on this build. Any suggestions on what this build would thrive on regarding currency farming? Thinking harbingers with demon atlas mods on 8+ corrupted maps...

    • @PathofEvening
      @PathofEvening  2 месяца назад +1

      That would absolutely work well!

  • @deepskin
    @deepskin 3 месяца назад +1

    I know this sounds goofy but I replaced Battlemage's Cry with Righteous Fire, which is like 30% more dmg according to PoB. I had to get regen to balance it, but feels interesting haha. Testing how to balance it I got rid of the Coruscating Elixir for a magic Ruby flask and realized that the CE is maybe not that necessary 100% of the time? I'm using Oriath's End as my unique flask and holly smokes that's clear speed. I also took the ES mastery for chaos dmg and seems that is working fine for the moment.

    • @MWaever
      @MWaever 3 месяца назад +1

      One tech that you can do - and i'm asuming you're not running Righteous Providence FF jewels - is to use Time of Need FF jewels. This alone allows you to self-sustain RF with as little as 70% fire resist. Now, in order to circumvent the fact that Coruscating puts you at 1 HP and thus cancelling righteous fire, use a Forbidden Taste flask enchanted with 'use when adjacent flask is used' and put coruscating in flask slot 4 and Forbidden Taste in slot 5. Voila, you can now have permanent Righteous Fire along with Righteous Fire.

    • @deepskin
      @deepskin 3 месяца назад

      @@MWaever very interesting, I will try that. I'm not using FF as they're too expensive but I will check the Time of Need one's. About the flask, I'm not using Coruscating Elixir as for the moment I'm surviving quite well, but I'm using a magic ruby flask + Impossible Escape to get to Prismatic Skin and Brink of Death for a ton of regen. But very clever tech that one with Forbidden Taste, I may try it as well :)

    • @PathofEvening
      @PathofEvening  3 месяца назад +1

      Interesting approach!

  • @xenoaurora
    @xenoaurora 3 месяца назад

    So I have managed to grab most of the gear and working on pushing to lvl 100. From what I have seen over the past week or so the squire implicit is like 50-150 divine. The watchers eye is now almost a mirror most of the time one is listed. The amulet with att and max energy shield is also up toward a mirror. Do you have any recommendations on alternatives between those super expensive upgrades?

    • @PathofEvening
      @PathofEvening  3 месяца назад +1

      You don't need a fancy Squire or Watcher's Eye. The Clarity mod is the only one that's mandatory.
      A rare amulet can work, or a stats amulet with a different second mod.

  • @lewyselee6208
    @lewyselee6208 3 месяца назад

    Thanks for introducing me to the mana stacking archetype and cyclone skills been really enjoying experimenting with them! Have you tested out the frostbolt / vortex variation?

    • @PathofEvening
      @PathofEvening  3 месяца назад

      Not familiar with it as a mana-stacker, but have played it as a CoC build with Cospri's ages ago (like Blight League). Huge fan of that playstyle!

    • @lewyselee6208
      @lewyselee6208 3 месяца назад

      @@PathofEvening Yeah it uses CoC but also mana stacking - it seems like a "pinnacle" version in a way of your ball lightning variant. If you are interested check out my build on poe ninja character: Krypt_ManaMan it is quite alot more expensive that your version however (ff/ff combo mostly)! But I also made a hybrid between the two using all my ball lightning gear (ivory tower, mjloner etc.) while I was figuring things out and also works very well! It just allows freedom in basically any trigger skill for cyclone rather than exclusively lightning but alot of the principles you teach (i.e. trigger rate balancing) was all very useful in figuring things out.
      The build is also absurdly tanky and has too much dps for most content - I think its around 120mil pinnacle dmg and 700k ehp with sigil of power up! Its the favourite build ive ever played by a clear mile for just just an all around fun time!

    • @lewyselee6208
      @lewyselee6208 3 месяца назад

      @@PathofEvening Yeah its a great playstyle very similar feel to your variant! Its essentially the same principles with a CoC trigger instead and an extra layer of scaling due to crit and converting all ele dmg into fire and a bunch of phys to fire / chaos with ci immunity! Much more expensive due to the forbidden flesh and flame combo required but if you are interested in pushing this playstyle further and cant stop spinning I'd highly recommend giving it a try.

  • @m3tax
    @m3tax 3 месяца назад +1

    Sorry for wasting half an hour of your life with my Simulacrum mention!! I do appreciate the reply and the mention, though. :)

  • @osareafallire
    @osareafallire 3 месяца назад

    All interestng and I was working my way towards putting this together but what I want to know about is that Eye of the Great Wolf with those two implicits. That's not even something that's to be found on Trade and it seems pretty vital to the build. What's option B for that?

    • @Krytos13
      @Krytos13 3 месяца назад +1

      A good 3 rat talisman is close and like 1/20th the cost

    • @osareafallire
      @osareafallire 3 месяца назад

      @@Krytos13 Snap! Gonna check it out. Yeah, they're as low as 5c. Appreciate ya.

    • @PathofEvening
      @PathofEvening  3 месяца назад

      That will definitely work!

  • @m0nZt3r
    @m0nZt3r 2 месяца назад

    How do you keep up coruscating elixir on boss fights with mageblood and no traitor?

    • @PathofEvening
      @PathofEvening  2 месяца назад

      You don't

    • @m0nZt3r
      @m0nZt3r 2 месяца назад

      @@PathofEvening I don't understand how that doesn't cause any chaos damage on a boss fight insta gib you then? Could you explain please.

  • @daniellincu598
    @daniellincu598 3 месяца назад

    Hello there and thank you for the guides. What farming strategies are you recommending with this build? Ty!

    • @PathofEvening
      @PathofEvening  3 месяца назад

      Glad to help! You can do pretty much any farm strategy well with this build! We've been playing around in t17's and doing Back to Basics 8-mod map farming, but there's really nothing it can't do!

  • @JPL04
    @JPL04 3 месяца назад

    Any idea why if I change my POB "boss" to guardian/pinn i have 4.33/4.32/4.32 ( this is what im shooting for correct?), but when i change it to no boss/standard/uber my source rate jumps way over my trigger rate and i lose a bunch on dmg?

    • @PathofEvening
      @PathofEvening  3 месяца назад

      You're probably under 100% hit rate and your attack speed is over your trigger rate.

  • @Vic666DK
    @Vic666DK 2 месяца назад

    Is it too early to ask if this build is gonna be viable in 3.25? with regards!

    • @PathofEvening
      @PathofEvening  2 месяца назад +1

      It absolutely will still be doable in the coming league!

    • @Vic666DK
      @Vic666DK 2 месяца назад

      @@PathofEvening That sounds awesome...I thought so, but I'm stillsifting through the patch notes and can see SO many nerfs/balances so I was a bit worried :P
      I finally fot the build finished and can min/max now :D
      Many thanks for this build that suits my playstyle so great!

  • @mr.su1ts
    @mr.su1ts 3 месяца назад

    Is there a chance you make a build guide with some breakpoints for gear?

  • @johannes1022
    @johannes1022 3 месяца назад

    i got 2 adorned jewels for curse immunity. but prices on those depend heavily on what mods you need for my phys dot buit they were only couple of divines and i didnt even have to give up %'s on my rolls. but on more meta builds adorned jewels with implicits might get expensive really fast

  • @primebg9853
    @primebg9853 3 месяца назад

    Bro, that neckless costs as much as half the first page of Magebloods. This is absolutely insane. How is this amulet 300 divines ?! Really wanted to try this build but 300 div for a neck ? is it the league or is it people ?

    • @PathofEvening
      @PathofEvening  3 месяца назад

      Supply and demand!

    • @primebg9853
      @primebg9853 3 месяца назад

      @@PathofEvening I guess. What would be the next best thing? The same amulet but with attributes only and a random stat? or is mana more important? i.e. what would be better a increased attributes with phys reduction or maximum mana with another stat? or is there a better alternative altogether that's not this amulet

    • @PathofEvening
      @PathofEvening  3 месяца назад +1

      Stats are more important. Definitely just go with Stats & something (maybe fix your AS, or get more AoE, something along those lines), and hope to snipe a Stats/Mana neck at some point.

    • @MWaever
      @MWaever 3 месяца назад

      What's even more insane to think about is the fact 2-3 weeks ago this amulet was 50-75 divs, but the price has really soared recently. Glad i already got mine 😂😂

  • @rendalf256
    @rendalf256 3 месяца назад

    Why precision? Is accuracy from gloves not enough?

    • @MWaever
      @MWaever 3 месяца назад

      Primarily because the alternatives are even worse. As he explains, maxing clarity provides minimal benefit, and neither Dread- nor Defiance Banner are useful to a build without evasion. Precision has two distinct advantages in that it provides a bit more crit chance which is useful for proccing Elemental Overload more consistently, but also makes maps with less player accuracy much more tolerable. And finally, you can use the watchers eye mod attack speed while affected by precision and swap out the attack speed on your flasks for something more useful.

    • @PathofEvening
      @PathofEvening  3 месяца назад

      Well said!

  • @hieplee7479
    @hieplee7479 3 месяца назад

    Can use gems Lancing steel of spray change for Cyclones for this build ?

    • @PathofEvening
      @PathofEvening  3 месяца назад

      Not really, that wouldn't work with Cast While Channeling.

    • @hieplee7479
      @hieplee7479 3 месяца назад

      @@PathofEvening oh i forgot build is cwc not coc build .Ty you so much!

  • @prodigalPOE
    @prodigalPOE 3 месяца назад

    Nice video. Might try it out if I get time this league. Llarold can you put your t17 map regex for this build and also for the forbidden rite build (if you used any). I am following your forbidden rite build with 3M dps per proj and with progenesis, but am getting absolutely clapped by t17.

    • @PathofEvening
      @PathofEvening  3 месяца назад +1

      Haven't really been using T17 map regexes since there are so many incredibly evil T17 map mods. Basically just been eyeballing them all. It's really annoying how much rolling each map requires to be both usable and rewarding.
      Not a fun implementation of what could have been a very successful endgame system. Fingers crossed for substantial changes in 3.25.

    • @prodigalPOE
      @prodigalPOE 3 месяца назад

      @@PathofEvening Yeah! let's hope they do something about t17's in 3.25.

  • @briannaraine7780
    @briannaraine7780 3 месяца назад

    Is my 1 mirror enough to play this build?

    • @PathofEvening
      @PathofEvening  3 месяца назад

      More than enough, but you can always invest more!

  • @elvisnotdead2149
    @elvisnotdead2149 3 месяца назад

    Can this build do 5 simu in a row?

    • @PathofEvening
      @PathofEvening  3 месяца назад +2

      You should try it and report back!

  • @yungdrila0197
    @yungdrila0197 3 месяца назад

    I thought the next league would be in July ?

  • @xenoaurora
    @xenoaurora 3 месяца назад

    lol cogwork with chaos fracture 2 on market min of 55 divines /dead

    • @MWaever
      @MWaever 3 месяца назад +3

      Thankfully, it's not mandatory and the amethyst rings showcased in video 1 is more than sufficient for this build. You can invest multiple mirrors into this build and still get upgrades, but the core concept is 'good enough' with very little investment.

    • @PathofEvening
      @PathofEvening  3 месяца назад +1

      That's right!

    • @xenoaurora
      @xenoaurora 3 месяца назад

      @@PathofEvening Just wanted to say I am not complaining, absolutely love the build. Just always sad when prices double from a video

  • @ThePhillShow
    @ThePhillShow 3 месяца назад +3

    How does it handle Deep Delving? (Now THAT should waste your time)

    • @PathofEvening
      @PathofEvening  3 месяца назад +3

      Oh no!

    • @dorfinhorg9458
      @dorfinhorg9458 2 месяца назад

      It's decent as a delve build. But for deep delve, I'd swap to manaforged arrows since the damage is so much higher and the gear isn't that different (bow and quiver swap mainly)

  • @Ulti_Omega
    @Ulti_Omega 2 месяца назад

    Would love to try this next season, what league starter is closest to this tree to minimize regrets? Storm Brand?

    • @PathofEvening
      @PathofEvening  2 месяца назад

      Regrets are gone, it's gold now!
      But yeah, Storm Brand, for sure. Zero changes to it, you can start as Inquisitor or Hierophant, both are really strong, and make the transition once you've got the uniques ready.

  • @MrSTKF10
    @MrSTKF10 3 месяца назад

    I make the same your build and it's not working properly could you help me 😢

    • @PathofEvening
      @PathofEvening  3 месяца назад

      We don't offer one-on-one coaching at this time

    • @SuperDaddyruss
      @SuperDaddyruss 3 месяца назад

      Where or what are you struggling with. I started with this build and am using lightning conduit of the heavens in place of ball lightning on t16 and below maps and b l on higher and bossing and it's awesome. Hit rate is so so important other than that managing mana and it's a dream smoothest build I've ever made. Props to Connor for another awesome albeit expensive build. Found in most cases pua rings can be just as powerful as helical and about 90div cheaper well rolled. Lots of thoughts thanks for the awesome vid

    • @MrSTKF10
      @MrSTKF10 3 месяца назад

      Thanks

  • @chrismiranda8370
    @chrismiranda8370 3 месяца назад

    I smell a price increase in everything related to this build lol. They're doing that to SS Trickster. This build looks pretty fun though.

    • @PathofEvening
      @PathofEvening  3 месяца назад +1

      That will happen with a mana stacker!

  • @zj6976
    @zj6976 3 месяца назад

    For the ring base there's a chaos resistance vendor recipe to restore fractured ring to non fractured state. The cost should be 15 or so divs on average to fracture a t1 perfectly rolled essence int. It's never worthy to pay for 20 divs for a t2 chaos res. The only reason it's being sold is that it's bricked.

  • @ThanhNguyen-ol6om
    @ThanhNguyen-ol6om 3 месяца назад

    You can switch the Healthy Mind down below the Iron Will area, still same 4 point but you get an addition life node that would be converted into mana

    • @MWaever
      @MWaever 3 месяца назад

      The thing is: 1) The build doesn't have enough spare points to pick up all the (now) 10% mana nodes and 2) the small nodes are 10% instead of the 12% around Cruel Preparation and finally 3) no 5% all res, making it objectively a worse choice. The only scenario where it's superior is if somehow the 20 life (this is not converted to mana btw but remains flat life) enables you to use your last aura without using an additional jewel with reservation efficiency implicit or something similar. This will be quite rare.

    • @ThanhNguyen-ol6om
      @ThanhNguyen-ol6om 3 месяца назад

      @@MWaever I mean as for the number of points allocated they are the same (4) as shown in the POB, but I see your point with the 5% all res.

    • @PathofEvening
      @PathofEvening  Месяц назад

      oops missed this

  • @Meisen1977
    @Meisen1977 3 месяца назад

    Hmh... Is it not worth dropping 1 int node for ZO?

    • @MWaever
      @MWaever 3 месяца назад

      Depends. Often your passive regen is rather low (300-600) unless you're using a 3% life regen crafted flask. Using one means using the other, but the in-combat benefit of something like 1200 es regen isn't all that amazing when compared to the amount of leech you get from the 10% insta-leech mastery. Still, it helps against various dots as well as topping yourself off in-between Arcane Cloaks.

    • @PathofEvening
      @PathofEvening  3 месяца назад

      Pretty much that, yeah. You can, it's not mandatory.

  • @lhtslhts724
    @lhtslhts724 3 месяца назад

    League starter?

    • @PathofEvening
      @PathofEvening  3 месяца назад

      Lol, definitely not since it requires a lot of uniques, but you can transition out of a Storm Brand Heirophant into this build pretty smoothly.

    • @MWaever
      @MWaever 3 месяца назад

      Last league, yes, you could absolutely league start what was essentially a manabond hierophant back then. But since the archmage rework, Indigon was over 10 divs for the first two weeks of the league, and mjolner, shaper's touch and prism guardian were about a div as well, making it difficult to justify doing this as a league starter. Will it be different in 3.25? Who knows, I doubt it.

  • @kl2999
    @kl2999 3 месяца назад

    How do you deal with chaos damage when flask is down? It's instant death.

  • @sirfirsterfirmgirther7301
    @sirfirsterfirmgirther7301 3 месяца назад

    How does action speed factor into attack speed? Or how does it interact with the whole cooldown recovery thing where you don’t want to be faster than the trigger rate cap? If I’m already close to that cap and I add some action speed to my build will I then go over the trigger rate cap?

    • @hellie0123
      @hellie0123 3 месяца назад

      Action speed counts towards your trigger rate. Works like a multiplier to your current attack speed. I don't think the poe character sheet shows the effect, so you will want to check PoB. Keep in mind raw attack speed and not the PoB trigger rate calc. Action speed basically means you can drop 1-2 different attack speed sources and regear.

    • @PathofEvening
      @PathofEvening  3 месяца назад

      Yup, this is all correct.

    • @sirfirsterfirmgirther7301
      @sirfirsterfirmgirther7301 3 месяца назад

      @@hellie0123I’m pretty sure I get it now. Thanks

    • @MWaever
      @MWaever 3 месяца назад

      This is all true. If for whatever reason you cannot remove attack speed from your build and action speed puts you above the 4.33 cap, the best DPS alternative for any non-crit build is Scorched Ground. It provides a solid -10% res to enemies which stacks with both elemental weakness and exposure.