Are Reservoir Shocks Overkill?
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- Опубликовано: 23 май 2022
- Somebody needs reservoir equipped shocks, but is it you? We help break down the benefits of this type of shock and whether or not it is right for your vehicle and driving style.
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Great video.. what are your thoughts on the dust cover on shocks? Some people remove the rubber/plastic citing concerns with retaining dirt or moisture.
Personally on our rigs, we do not run any boots of any sorts. We do find that having a boot does make it more difficult to keep simple cleaning maintenance on the shocks much more difficult. The boot will still trap various partials which is hard to remove without removing the actual boot itself.
Hey brother u explained everything perfectly, but I have a question. does the bilstien 5160 needs to be serviced like the fox shocks like every 30k to 50k? And how durable are they compared to fox?
Went with Dobinsons 3way adjustable MRR's on the 4runner.
I think Dobinsons are highly under-rated. Additionally, great (long) service life before a rebuild with such an advanced system!
Totally agree
Are you guys running two mics? The Audio has a weird effect to it.
This was just one. This is a reupload as we lost our content so some equipment used might be different than what we have in more recent videos.
What are your thoughts on a set of ELKAS, 2.5 DC , I never see a review on them anywhere?
we haven't ran them ourselves on any application, they're quite expensive compared to the competition and not easy to get down here in the states
i have a 2022 2500 AT4 that was has the Detroit Wreckers wheel lift system on there (a lot of weight in the rear) they installed fox shocks already when the system was installed. However for the front i was wondering if a reservoir was going to be the way to go to make the ride more comfortable, or what? I do drive fast when not towing, and occasionally go off road depending on the situation
The reservoir helps with heat dissipation. So when the shocks are cycling quickly, this would help keep it cooler. It'll still get warm but it won't as warm or hot. The comfort is going to be about the same.
Having a difficult time deciding what to go with. I have a 22 4wd F150 that I use as a daily driver. Usually only go off trail 1-2x a month to camp in SoCal and NorCal. I do spend a lot of time driving up and down mountains during the winter for snowboarding. Thoughts on whether getting reservoirs is worth it? Looking at the either the Eibach stage 2 lift or 2R which is about a $240 difference.
From the sounds of things, your shocks will not even get warm let alone hot enough to show any amount of fade, so you can skip the reservoir for its intended purpose, but Eibach does use a little more linear valving on their PTR resi shocks, so they are a touch more comfortable at least off road. You likely will feel little difference on the road though.
What about as far as hauling low to heavy trailer or goosenecks, will the reservoir shocks help or make any difference compared to the singular tubed shocks?
Not really. The main benefit of an external reservoir is for additional heat dissipation, however if you are just towing heavy on the road, your shocks probably are not getting hot. Or at the very least a good monotube shock without a reservoir would not get hot enough to fade.
Suggestions for a stock height 21 f350 fx4? Looking to upgrade the stock ones
Bilstein 4600 or Bilstein 5100 would be our recommendation.
Where do you draw the line between a remote and a higher end monotube? Not bilsteins, like a 2.5 or ome mt64.
I do forest roads at reasonably higher speeds, but not desert whoops and jumps. Ive killed a few 5100s and im over replacing them. Do i bite the bullet on 2.5 remotes or go the in-between like the mt64 or fox/Elka/icon 2.5? Difference of almost 2k here in Canada. (3k vs 5k)
If you are blowing up 2.0s, you might still be at the limit of an IFP monotube 2.5. If you can swing it, an external reservoir is probably up your alley. Truthfully although the stuff out in the desert looks more extreme, the washboard surfaces of most forest roads will often get shocks hotter as they are only using a small percentage of their travel, but cycling at much more rapid rates.
What would you recommend for a stock 2016 Rubicon Hardrock for someone who drives fast on dirt and occasionally rock crawls?
It depends if your stock height or lifted and your budget.
@@ShockSurplus stock height and no budget limit.
For a 4runner w/KDSS I am bringing the car to Puerto Vallarta where I'll be going up and down steep wet cobblestone roads. I was recommended the Eibach reservoir shocks. On your website KDSS isn't on the Eibach as compatible. Is there a reason or would you recommend something else?
They fit the same on KDSS and non KDSS models so there is nothing to worry about there. The only reason sometimes you will see fitment vary on KDSS and Non KDSS models is front reservoir placement or lift settings to avoid lean on non KDSS models. The Eibachs 2.0 coilovers are a threaded body so you have more than enough finite adjustment to get it level side to side, and they do not have external reservoirs.
I have an 86 blazer with a 6" lift. In your opinion would upgrading from stock to any type of reservoir shock make a big enough difference in ride quality to justify spending the money? Right now the ride is very stiff and hops on bumps
I’d say it depends on if your ride is hard because of shocks you have now or if your truck is sprung hard. If it’s the shocks, they may help, if it’s because of the springs, probably not.
Reservoir shocks often are tuned the same or quite similar to their IFP Monotube counterparts so you probably will not see much difference in normal ride quality. The main benefit of an external reservoir design is their increased cooling capacity to keep the shocks more consistent, so if you drive it really hard for extended periods off road, you they will be far less likely to fade. I am sure a good shock, reservoir or otherwise, will help, but if the rig is hopping over bumps, there is a good chance the springs are too stiff and are causing most of the issues.
what do you recommend for a 2018 crew max tundra 4x4, daily driver?
Bilstein 4600 if you're looking for an OEM replacement and stock height.
Is there going to be a remake of this video?
We'll suggest it to the media team
What shocks would you recommend for standard lift f150 for a better ride on the street?
Model year is a big factor, but Eibach Pro Trucks, if available are a great option
Is it ok to remove and leave off the rubber boot on the 5100? Are they needed to prevent wear? I think they look better without the boots
they're not necessary, it does help prevent some debri from hitting the shaft - which is the main concern. The wiper seal on the Bilstein is really nice and keeps dirt out of the shock, but pitting on the shaft from rock hits is the main concern for the most part.
@@ShockSurplus ok cool, I’ll leave them on
I have a 6 inch rough country lift can I still put belstein shocks?
Can I out belstein on my 6inch lift ?
Depends on the vehicle. You can use your website and put your vehicle in the fitment chart. Then use the filter to filter out lift amount and select 6"
wish you would of talked about the feel of suspension. Is it going to be more stiff on the road with the reservoir?
When it comes to comfort, firmness or stiffness, it will be quite subjective as everyone deems these feelings differently. Contact us directly and we can give some insight based on what we have ran or currently running on any of our rigs.
Mounting the 5160 on a 5th gen 4Runner. Do you keep the hose portion on the reservoir 12o clock or 6 o clock? Does it make a difference?
They are kept at the 6 location, but Bilstein is pretty clear about how to position things in their instructions productdesk.cart.bilsteinus.com//media/products/bilstein/E4-WM5-Y764A00_1.pdf
just bought a set of 6112s from you guys to pair with the 5160s i bought from yall. looking forward to their arrival so i can install and get out there.
Do you have a application for a Escalade esv?
Depends on the year and if you have the mag ride or any electronic suspension.
@@ShockSurplus it’s a 05 and I have factory leveling valves on all 4 corners with factory compressor
I’m always eager to “go longer and go harder”….😂
special oil for that
1 year later still has audio problems.
Can you upload this the volume doesn’t work
Just tested on mobile in app and browser on Android and Iphone as well as on desktop, and the audio is working just fine. Tons of comments before you of people who had no issues hearing it, so I would try clearing your cookies and cache and trying it again.
Is there a retake of this video yet?
Media team was notified.
Mono audio ? Only left channel or something ?
sorry about that, not sure what happened
@@ShockSurplus no worries, just thought I'd let you know it was a mono/stereo audio issue :) great explanation nonetheless!
No audio
We have no issues on our end. Try clearing your cookies and cache and refreshing the video.
It seem thatyou have an audio problem
Sorry about that, are you listening on headphones by chance? What phone?
CONTACT SHOCK SURPLUS"? What a freakin JOKE! How about multiple calls and hold times, one up to 30 minutes long. Only to get a recording that says" Why waste anytime being on hold, go online and shop" Paraphrase. Well, if someone wants to speak to a real person with genuine questions, how about being more personal and picking up the phone. Employ more people to answer phones. It's all about relationship-building and communication guys. That's how you get the word spread. Since I know you are already established and my rant will absolutely go nowhere and probably get beat up here on posts, this is all a moot point. I'm only one guy and the world is just different. Regardless, this 61-year-old man who had shock questions for a purchase, will not shop at Shock Surplus. Out!
All we can say is sorry! Last week was intense for us, 2 people out, training 2 new people, on top of big demand - all a tough combo! We're actively addressing phone volume and bringing down response times. If you want to give us another chance, email the owner sean@shocksurplus.com - he's been made aware of your complaint.
Can't hear ya
We tested this 3 different computers. 2 of the 3 worked and the 3rd one did not. We cleared the cookies and cache and the audio works again. Please look into clearing the cookies and cache on your browser. Also we tested this on mobile devices, both Android and iPhone, and those worked fine as well.
I'm on an android phone and I cannot hear anything
Turn it up
Fix the volume on this bs bro
Just tested on mobile in app and browser on Android and Iphone as well as on desktop, and the audio is working just fine. Tons of comments before you of people who had no issues hearing it, so I would try clearing your cookies and cache and trying it again.