Still think your ban was one of the most unfair in the cycling history. For a start any championship on zwift should have forced everyone on the same bikes anyway.
@@timurpapba520 yes, his 'trainer difficulty is unfair' buddy told him about bot riding in zwift. Something like this. Cheating is cheating, his opposition manage to get the bike and be ready for competition. Harsh was ban from UCI, considering they let some people fly with more serious cheating.
Watched the TT live in 2004. Stayed in the campsite 500m away and woke at 3am too excited to sleep so walked up the mountain.... with 1 million other people following 4-5hours later. It was 6 people deep all the way up. Saw all of the greats: Basso, Ullrich, Big George, Virenque, Boonan and The GOAT. It's a shame the TdF have never held a proper mtn TT like the L'Alpe since. Then LA won the Le Grand-Bornand the next day. Corr what a tour! Top Fuel cycling at it's best!
Hey, I was there as well. I still remember the crowd shouting "Ja Ja" for Laurent Jalabert, and when Armstrong came shortly after him, they continued "Ja Ja"!
I slept kinda propped against a tree maybe a third of the way up the course. I remember it started to rain just a bit but held off. Remember seeing the US Postal bus go by in the night.
It’s always funny to read people’s opinion on the « greatest » cyclist without ever considering Greg Lemond. And for the sake of considération, not even mentionning Cadel Evans while looking up to Armstrong and his contemporaries.
Good video, small suggestion to add your HR if possible to the graphics because I think it gives me a better indicator of how you are feeling than a face cam even.
Reckon you could've given yourself 20-30w for the on bike gains that have been found since then, rolling resistance of tyres, even aero of wheels at that speed etc, eeked it out a few more minutes before altitude kicked in. Great vid!
super impressive effort. Specially if you take into account that there are suspicions that EPO aside, Lance was using a motor at the time in the big stages.
okay 2 things - 1: I'd be curious to see how long it would take you to get to the top at your own pace/watt output just to compare to lance's time. and 2: i really appreciated that ad read - it was informative about a cool product i knew nothing about and seemed like something that could actually benefit cyclists, so i really enjoyed it and didn't skip like most other ad reads
Hey Cameron, great video! It’s eye-opening to see how hard it is to match Armstrong’s wattage on Alpe d’Huez. Given that both Armstrong and Pantani used doping to achieve their legendary times, it’s hard not to be skeptical about recent performances like Pogačar’s. The fact that Pantani and Armstrong, with doping, pushed human limits so far makes it seem unlikely that current riders can break these records naturally, even with advances in training and technology. Thanks for shedding light on this!
I use the Assioma Duo Shi's, love them. I swap them between my indoor bike and road bike for consistency. Jesus that's some effort. Would have liked to see you complete the climb and your own average power for it. The most I've done for 2 mins is 470 watts, not bad for a 50 year old. 😊
Great pedals. Been running the Uno's for 4 years and they are very durable, a pleasure to interact with and the charging and app are very user friendly. The only slight negative is the weight. They aren't heavy but they aren't the lightest. But they are very high quality and well made and easy to use. They are paired with my Element ROAM.
Lance has said publicly on the Move broadcast he could hold 500 watts for 30 minutes in his prime. Cam, you could drop all of us. We get how hard it is. Thanks for the reminder.
Enjoyed this clip , really shows how incredible an effort it takes , should try the same thing again after taking epo ,it would be interesting to see how much of a difference it makes,
He was just a scapegoat at the time. Highly disrespected. He helped so many people BELIEVE that they can defeat their cancer. This is powerful stuff because the mind is incredibly mysterious. As a matter of fact, he helped me defeat my cancer. True story. Thank-you Lance.
I'm genuinely happy for you that you defeated cancer, but Lance was way more than a scapegoat. Yes, in order to compete at the time, almost everyone in the peleton had to take drugs, but he won by taking more than most and he was also documented by multiple sources as a pretty horrific bully, at one point bullying perhaps one of the only clean riders off the peleton, one who may perhaps have been genuinely capable of winning in a drug free peleton.
@@edj4833 Are you referring to Tyler Hamilton? Or someone else? And yes, I did hear Lance had a lot of enemies and was a bully. Not a perfect person by no means, I know. But he had a HUGE impact in my life. I can't talk down on someone who potentially saved my life either. I am biased, sorry.
@@jaimeisreal Tyler often referred to his bullying, as did many teamates, but it was a famous French rider with a high Vo2 max, who managed to keep up with the rest of the peleton despite not using EPO, which is an extremely effective performance enhancer. I can't recall the name though, I read it in David Walsh's book. I understand that his inspiration to you, but for the sport of cycling he was awful. He was not the only one to blame as the UCI knew about all of this and enabled it, but there was a difference between other riders who may have reluctantly took drugs to be able to compete in a peleton, and Lance who was on another level.
I think that in summer or in much hotter day you are able to do that a lot longer, this cold air and lack of air is killing everyone so you are not that weak as you think 💪💪 Maybe you will try on summer if you will have time for do that again? You did 2 minutes so I can bet that in summer you can achieve at least 5min! Great effort!
Pantanis 1995 time is the quickest ever up the alpe and he went the wrong way at the last corner. Also armstrong was 18 minutes behind that day that was the real arsmtrong.
Dope or no dope, it blows my mind that a person could hold that insane cadence for nearly 40 minutes without dying. The strain the lungs and heart are under must be incredible
I wanted to add something that people should know. Lance recently admitted during an interview that the EPO he was taking granted him an additional 50 watts during a climb such as Alp D'Huez. He said he puts out 450 when completely clean. Still impressive for sure, but i wanted everyone to know the reality of things.
Eh... Mine have been nothing but trouble. Power not consistent when it gets cold or wet. Maybe just unlucky but it's the same story with another person in our club.. No power meter brand is perfect.
Holding nearly 500 watts for over 2 mins is still impressive mate. Surely you're putting out more w/kg than Lance though? Maybe you should try giving it a bash matching the same w/kg instead because you're probably lighter i'm guessing
It is so terrible, but the graphics and stuff you can do with the overlays are unfortunately better than any other software I found. Good trick with the premiere pro, I will try that.
I was wondering about Cam Jeffers recently, thinking if he still actually does anything on yt - he used to post soo much i felt I lived in his parents living room/house 😁
Great Video, I have a good knowledge of cycling and performance-enhancing drugs, and believe me, even with the juicing at the time, Armstrong and Pantini's achievement is off the scale and to be respected.
Eddy Merckx said it. Its not about the bike, its about the engine on the bike for 99.9% of cyclists. Get fitter, lose weight, train more : this is where 99.9% improvement begins and ends.
I went up Alpe D Huez last year. For those that have never been up it, you dont realise how ridiculous those pro times of 38" are. Just utterly absurd now that I know what its like.
I’ve ridden alp D’Huez several times, it’s hard, the first 4 turns are steeper than they look on screen. Cadence of the London eye, power was irrelevant tbh …. It’s the grind to the top …. But for those who’ve been recently, the road route has changed at the top so remember to turn left to keep to the original route
He botted zwift to unlock a bike that provided an advantage prior to the world champs. No actual cheating in competition, just had a bot riding for him offline
Did Lance really average 495W on that day, is it proved somehow? It is sick number. I know that he was heavier than most climbers today and they had rocket fuel these days, but almost 500W for such amount of time sounds like above human abilities.
Marco Pantani also doped 😁 They must give back everything to Lance. All cyclists doped in his time so it was fair. Lance still one of the Best. Chapo to Lance!
You need to keep the watt/kg figure, not the 495W, esp. uphill there is a big difference…I was an amateur cyclists in the early 1990s and managed about 18kph on long 10% ish average climbs (1,80m, 65kg). But Lance’s numbers are just from another planet.
Marco was going up with 54-42 so he had an advantage on the inner ring. It allowed to him to push down harder with less spinning. To push those big gears require serious leg power and chemical assistance.
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Still think your ban was one of the most unfair in the cycling history. For a start any championship on zwift should have forced everyone on the same bikes anyway.
It's good to see that he can poke fun at the whole thing
No, it was not unfair, rules are rules.
Its unfair because hé had the same bike but didnt “earn” it nu rid8ng countless hours in zwift, at least thats hoe i remember it
@@timurpapba520 yes, his 'trainer difficulty is unfair' buddy told him about bot riding in zwift. Something like this. Cheating is cheating, his opposition manage to get the bike and be ready for competition. Harsh was ban from UCI, considering they let some people fly with more serious cheating.
Technically cheating but I get why. Having some sort of World of Warcraft style grind for unequal equipment is BS.
Great effort mate, its probably two minutes more than I could do!
Brilliant video. Made me smile so much. I tried the alpe at 90kg weight. Had to stop at every bend for a minor coronary. very humbling.
Welcome back cam 👍 Really missed the vids
Thanks mark, hoping to push forward again now
Great to see you again Cam and another totally insane idea lol always love your honest effort whatever you are doing
Thanks William. You know me haha
Watched the TT live in 2004. Stayed in the campsite 500m away and woke at 3am too excited to sleep so walked up the mountain.... with 1 million other people following 4-5hours later. It was 6 people deep all the way up. Saw all of the greats: Basso, Ullrich, Big George, Virenque, Boonan and The GOAT. It's a shame the TdF have never held a proper mtn TT like the L'Alpe since. Then LA won the Le Grand-Bornand the next day. Corr what a tour! Top Fuel cycling at it's best!
Ahhh. What I'd do to experience that
Hey, I was there as well. I still remember the crowd shouting "Ja Ja" for Laurent Jalabert, and when Armstrong came shortly after him, they continued "Ja Ja"!
I was there aswell, at a campsite called la cascade at the bottom of the mountain. I remember that day vividly!
I was there too! Atmosphere was amazing everyone camping at the side of the road having a few beers! Great time!
I slept kinda propped against a tree maybe a third of the way up the course. I remember it started to rain just a bit but held off. Remember seeing the US Postal bus go by in the night.
Great video mate. Lance is the GOAT and look how fast all those rim brake times are still to this day. Makes the new tech look laughable. 7800 FTW! :)
Nice one Harley. Lance is the goat for sure.
Great to see a comment by Harley - you're a classic of Australian cycling 🙏
Right, and George Santos is the best congressman ever 👍
It’s always funny to read people’s opinion on the « greatest » cyclist without ever considering Greg Lemond. And for the sake of considération, not even mentionning Cadel Evans while looking up to Armstrong and his contemporaries.
@@grosmince Quite true, Lemond was a class act compared to Mr Lance New Age Pretentiousness..tho Harley has an obsession with the guy
I thought it was a bit of a short vid for a 36 minute climb. Assiomas without doubt the best powermeter money can buy. Great sponsor.
Nice one steve
Well done Cam at least it gives us all a clear impression of exactly HOW HARD that effort is! Like you say - drugs or NO drugs! Chapeau
Thanks Veloman
I was about halfway up the Alpe that day. Lance didn’t even look like he was maxed out. Incredible.
Good effort mate! Still mega impressive power numbers. Would be cool to see your time up the full climb
Yeah next time, for sure!
It was great training for the uphill finish in Knocknagoshel Village, stage 1B of Rás Mumhan! Best of luck for the Easter Weekend
Good video, small suggestion to add your HR if possible to the graphics because I think it gives me a better indicator of how you are feeling than a face cam even.
Yeah great idea. I actually forgot my HR monitor
Reckon you could've given yourself 20-30w for the on bike gains that have been found since then, rolling resistance of tyres, even aero of wheels at that speed etc, eeked it out a few more minutes before altitude kicked in. Great vid!
Thanks Alex, now it's your turn!! Haha
super impressive effort. Specially if you take into account that there are suspicions that EPO aside, Lance was using a motor at the time in the big stages.
The colour combination of the jacket and bib shorts looks good!
Thanks mate. Attaquer smashing it out the park
I love your approach and still so much respect to him!
okay 2 things - 1: I'd be curious to see how long it would take you to get to the top at your own pace/watt output just to compare to lance's time. and 2: i really appreciated that ad read - it was informative about a cool product i knew nothing about and seemed like something that could actually benefit cyclists, so i really enjoyed it and didn't skip like most other ad reads
Appreciate that mate. Here's what I'll do - I'll get myself a bit fitter then give it a crack, how's that?
good effort mate, welcome back lad
Thank you mate
Assioma pedals are simply the best. No one else compares! Great video Cameron!
This is good to hear. I really rate them
Very well done. Looks like you did it when it was cold whereas Lance did the TT during summer which is even harder.
Hey Cameron, great video! It’s eye-opening to see how hard it is to match Armstrong’s wattage on Alpe d’Huez.
Given that both Armstrong and Pantani used doping to achieve their legendary times, it’s hard not to be skeptical about recent performances like Pogačar’s. The fact that Pantani and Armstrong, with doping, pushed human limits so far makes it seem unlikely that current riders can break these records naturally, even with advances in training and technology.
Thanks for shedding light on this!
Awesome video man!
Anyone catch how he says 'pigment of my former self' at 6:28. Isn't the phrase meant to use the word figment?
Figment is the correct word, yes
I'm 195lbs and love climbing hills on a bike, but I couldn't do 495 watts for 30 seconds probably. I run out of O2 fast.
nice one Cameron! boy oh boy that is tough!! 👍😁
Nice one Gary
I use the Assioma Duo Shi's, love them. I swap them between my indoor bike and road bike for consistency.
Jesus that's some effort. Would have liked to see you complete the climb and your own average power for it.
The most I've done for 2 mins is 470 watts, not bad for a 50 year old. 😊
Plausible for sure mate! Good to hear your experience with them too.
Hey Cam, what’s the gilet you’re wearing in this vid?
Hey Saro, it's a quilted one from Attaquer, fantastic bit of kit
Well mate you did already 2 minutes at Lance's record pace, only 35 minutes more to go !!! You can do it :)
Haha
Great to see you back Cam 👏 Only got single sided but love my Assiomas 👍
Nice to hear that. I really rate them tbh
"A pigment of my former self."
Lol
Great pedals. Been running the Uno's for 4 years and they are very durable, a pleasure to interact with and the charging and app are very user friendly. The only slight negative is the weight. They aren't heavy but they aren't the lightest. But they are very high quality and well made and easy to use. They are paired with my Element ROAM.
Record still belongs to Pantani from 1997. The same year he's set the record for Joux Plan.
Lance has said publicly on the Move broadcast he could hold 500 watts for 30 minutes in his prime.
Cam, you could drop all of us. We get how hard it is.
Thanks for the reminder.
Different level isnt it
If I could pull off a full minute I'd be thrilled. Great job!!
I can hold 495w for 1-2mins when I peak each year... holding that for +30 mins is wild no matter how many drugs you're on.
yup!
Brilliant vid lol!!
Brings home the point just how different the top boys are clean or not!!.
You mention Armstrong releases his power file. Where can I find it?
Welcome back Cam - would be cool to also do the same test on Zwift AdZ.
Nice idea scott. Thanks!
Having done Alp D’Huez 20 years ago I remember how much of a challenge it is even going at the snails pace I went up it.
Excessive sharting is required in the final sprint. That's the realm of champions.
Enjoyed this clip , really shows how incredible an effort it takes , should try the same thing again after taking epo ,it would be interesting to see how much of a difference it makes,
great vid and great effort. Can we now discuss the elephant in the room. The steering tube length and why there is length above the handlebar stem????
Borrowed bike ahah.
He was just a scapegoat at the time. Highly disrespected. He helped so many people BELIEVE that they can defeat their cancer. This is powerful stuff because the mind is incredibly mysterious. As a matter of fact, he helped me defeat my cancer. True story. Thank-you Lance.
I'm genuinely happy for you that you defeated cancer, but Lance was way more than a scapegoat. Yes, in order to compete at the time, almost everyone in the peleton had to take drugs, but he won by taking more than most and he was also documented by multiple sources as a pretty horrific bully, at one point bullying perhaps one of the only clean riders off the peleton, one who may perhaps have been genuinely capable of winning in a drug free peleton.
@@edj4833 Are you referring to Tyler Hamilton? Or someone else?
And yes, I did hear Lance had a lot of enemies and was a bully. Not a perfect person by no means, I know. But he had a HUGE impact in my life. I can't talk down on someone who potentially saved my life either. I am biased, sorry.
@@jaimeisreal Tyler often referred to his bullying, as did many teamates, but it was a famous French rider with a high Vo2 max, who managed to keep up with the rest of the peleton despite not using EPO, which is an extremely effective performance enhancer. I can't recall the name though, I read it in David Walsh's book.
I understand that his inspiration to you, but for the sport of cycling he was awful. He was not the only one to blame as the UCI knew about all of this and enabled it, but there was a difference between other riders who may have reluctantly took drugs to be able to compete in a peleton, and Lance who was on another level.
I think that in summer or in much hotter day you are able to do that a lot longer, this cold air and lack of air is killing everyone so you are not that weak as you think 💪💪
Maybe you will try on summer if you will have time for do that again? You did 2 minutes so I can bet that in summer you can achieve at least 5min!
Great effort!
🤣that intro, still conversations this week on how you were robbed!
Pantanis 1995 time is the quickest ever up the alpe and he went the wrong way at the last corner. Also armstrong was 18 minutes behind that day that was the real arsmtrong.
But it wasn't the real Pantani.
They are both frauds..
If I pay you 6 million in year you will try much more and yeah, you are not pro even.
@@luksuriasbroken English lol
@@edwardojg did you understand it, english is not my mother language
Dope or no dope, it blows my mind that a person could hold that insane cadence for nearly 40 minutes without dying. The strain the lungs and heart are under must be incredible
Sick video mate👌🏼
Nice one mate
Rad! Wondering how much faster today's bikes are than the bikes they were racing back then?
Welcome back bro
Thank you broskii
Yes, Yes, Yes! fantastic effort Cam!
Thank you mate
Nice video, Cam. Solid effort! What bar mount did you use for the go pro?
Hey mate, just a standard wrap around bar mount and about a 10 inch extension pole
@@Cameron_Jeffers it gets a good shot
I wanted to add something that people should know. Lance recently admitted during an interview that the EPO he was taking granted him an additional 50 watts during a climb such as Alp D'Huez. He said he puts out 450 when completely clean. Still impressive for sure, but i wanted everyone to know the reality of things.
He most probably lied about this as well. The guy will never go full honest.
Armstrong is a pathological liar.
Absolutely love my Assioma pedals!!!
I'm hearing nothing but love for them!!
Eh... Mine have been nothing but trouble. Power not consistent when it gets cold or wet. Maybe just unlucky but it's the same story with another person in our club.. No power meter brand is perfect.
Where's yer paw? Need more Dad content with Chris lol. That moment when breathing control goes out the window really hurts.
Was wondering what had happened to Pritchard, that Chamonix camper van video was cool.
Chris is a busy man these days. Trying my absolute best to get him back for a video
@@Cameron_Jeffers Thanks for that update on Chris. I've been wondering what happened to him.
Nice work. Bourg D'Oisans area is my fave place on the planet and this brings back gooooood memories
Oh hey nat! Yeah It's so nice there isn't it. I love it
Maybe you should try it again in warmer weather conditions. I would love to try that climb even though doing it in 2 hours 😁😁
take all the good stuff now and see how much you improve
Hahahahaha. Stay tuned for ep.2
Question is did you truly did it like lance armstrong enhanced on the good (or bad) stuff
Why title this re Lance's best time when Pantani holds the record, done after a full road stage as opposed to a TT?
Could hold 430w for 5 minutes in my late 50’s. Still in upper 300’s at 62. 8 minute field tests at 370-380. 77 kg.
I wish you would have shown your heart rate data when riding... THAT would have been cool too. Great effort, though! Did you make it to the top?
Good effort Cam
good to see some good videos again mate. couldn't stand that virtual stuff.
Nice one Tom. We're back for 2024
Holding nearly 500 watts for over 2 mins is still impressive mate. Surely you're putting out more w/kg than Lance though? Maybe you should try giving it a bash matching the same w/kg instead because you're probably lighter i'm guessing
Thank mate. Nah Lance was a touch lighter in his prime! It's hard being 188cm haha
Great vid !
What Gilet is that 👌🏼
It's from Attaquer :)
How are you still using Garmin Virb editing software?? I miss mine but it always has error messages now when I try to map!
Its awful to use isn't it. i find it works better when i export the footage in premiere pro first then insert that .mp4 file rather than the raw video
It is so terrible, but the graphics and stuff you can do with the overlays are unfortunately better than any other software I found. Good trick with the premiere pro, I will try that.
I was wondering about Cam Jeffers recently, thinking if he still actually does anything on yt - he used to post soo much i felt I lived in his parents living room/house 😁
3 years on my Asioma's... No problems at all !!
Great Video, I have a good knowledge of cycling and performance-enhancing drugs, and believe me, even with the juicing at the time, Armstrong and Pantini's achievement is off the scale and to be respected.
Nice one mate
Eddy Merckx said it. Its not about the bike, its about the engine on the bike for 99.9% of cyclists. Get fitter, lose weight, train more : this is where 99.9% improvement begins and ends.
At least now you know your exact 2 minute power! Good work! Just think it as a breakaway...
Why did you remove your rear wheel vs front wheel to fit in the car
I don't actually know haha
I went up Alpe D Huez last year. For those that have never been up it, you dont realise how ridiculous those pro times of 38" are. Just utterly absurd now that I know what its like.
Same here. It took me nearly two hours. My mate had to wait 40 min at the top 😂
I’ve ridden alp D’Huez several times, it’s hard, the first 4 turns are steeper than they look on screen. Cadence of the London eye, power was irrelevant tbh …. It’s the grind to the top …. But for those who’ve been recently, the road route has changed at the top so remember to turn left to keep to the original route
It's an incredible climb though, isn;t it
Cool man. What software do you use for overlays?
Garmin virb edit :)
Marko did it after riding for hours before the acent! Lance did it relatively fresh
My ftp is 3.5w/kg and getting to that has been tough enough. How does someone get to 7, how is that even possible.
Why did you get banned? New to this channel
He botted zwift to unlock a bike that provided an advantage prior to the world champs. No actual cheating in competition, just had a bot riding for him offline
@dvoob wow so they ban him for unlocking a zwift bike 🤣 absolutely ridiculous
Ahhh, long story. It all got blown way out of proportion really. But made for a decent story!!
thats a whole lot more than I would manage
Hahha.
Your knees are touching the bar. Your head is 9" over the axis?
According to my Garmin the longest I've been able to sustain 500w is for about 14 seconds. Do I win a prize?
Great vid.
Nice one mate!
Did Lance really average 495W on that day, is it proved somehow? It is sick number. I know that he was heavier than most climbers today and they had rocket fuel these days, but almost 500W for such amount of time sounds like above human abilities.
he doped
Marco Pantani also doped 😁 They must give back everything to Lance. All cyclists doped in his time so it was fair. Lance still one of the Best. Chapo to Lance!
What s Jonas, Primoz or Tadejs avg Watts and fastest time ?
They’re lighter than Armstrong - so they might not require to smash 500w to reach the same w/kg north of 6.5w/kg
which vest are you using?
From Attaquer :)
Where have you been lately 😊
Life. But we are back!
You need to keep the watt/kg figure, not the 495W, esp. uphill there is a big difference…I was an amateur cyclists in the early 1990s and managed about 18kph on long 10% ish average climbs (1,80m, 65kg). But Lance’s numbers are just from another planet.
You should have displayed your heart rate data. What’s your weight? Pantani was 50kg.
I thought pantani had the record up alpe dhuez
He does 😊
That record will never be broken
@@Dadember I agree, but there are some pros who would like to give it a go...
@@markdeane8385 .....he'd have to be dopped out of his gills like Lance and Marco to get close.
@@samuel8590 👍
Internal motor though?
No amount of doping will make someone complete that climb like Pantani and Armstrong... They were beasts on the bike without a doubt.
10000% mate. Different league
What month did you try this?
Brill intro !!!! What a load of old BS was that Zwift banning. Almost had forgot
Yup! Still makes me chuckle though
Hey Cam, can we get a catch-up / what to expect in 2024 ? 😁
Sure. Good idea
Marco was going up with 54-42 so he had an advantage on the inner ring. It allowed to him to push down harder with less spinning. To push those big gears require serious leg power and chemical assistance.
9-11mph... more than 490W?
It's 6.9 watts/kg...not just watts. A big rider can do higher wattage, efficiency is all that matters.
Exactly…I was like what is the point of holding that watts? It’s not apples to apples.