@@paulhaynes8045 fair point, Poncho is a garment, Pancho is a proper noun, a male name meaning 'Free' in Spanish. The later is probably the better choice.
When I would build or restore a wooden boat. Sail or trawler I would like Pete and Leo to be the guys in charge. Great workman’s craft and for all they are proud of what they are doing. Great guys all of you and thanks for taking us on your journey of this great project
I really, really enjoyed how much personality was in this episode. I think everyone is finally getting less awkward being on camera. - just fun all around to watch.
The last 17 years I m working on yacht interiors. When I see your plan, it feels good. Like you said, there are many things you have to keep in mind. Electrical, pipes, equipment etc. Try to not forget to engineer all this systems before closing walls. At this moment you see also all the effort you take in the stage before. The rivets, the casting, the nice shap of the hull, everything comes together. A big compliment to your crew and your skills and effort on this project! To make video’s and edit them next to a huge project like this is very time consuming, but we are the happy one’s ho enjoy your serie!
@@zekeblack7004 no, for vandermeijden in the Netherlands. We work for oceanco, heesen, feadship, amels etc. Tally ho is much more classic boatbuilding but, very interesting!
@@patrickvg1646 ahh i see sir-! There is a man i met im almost POSITIVE was named Patrick, i believe worked as lead carpenter for North Shore? North Coast? Anyways, super amazing guy as well, was hoping accidentally was you-!! But how AMAZING is it you do the same? And i so appreciated your comment, as i too think layout is especially challenging in close spaces with that many curves...AND in a marine environment; not the friendliest. Whats the biggest hull your yard sees?
Chart table is non-negotiable. Even if you're navigating with GPS, a dedicated space for the navigator is clutch. Glad to see you've included it! Haters can suck it
As a veteran navigator on dozens of long distance races, I concur. Chart plotters can and do fail. Always know where you are even if your electronics fail. There's nothing better than a secure chart table to use to plot your course, especially in heavy weather with water cascading everywhere.
Sea water, electronics, flat batteries, charging issues and a GPS that can be turned off, are points of possible failure of a critical system. GPS is as a back up but maps, stars, the sun, land features are more reliable. And more pleasant to use in my opinion.
the location seems strange to me... having it right next to where all the cooking is being done seems like a recipe for disaster. food on nice expensive charts would suck. i hope they have something in mind to prevent that.
I just rewatch these vids. Found leo when he was 1 man building a shed over a boat. So great to see this project growing. Its better than ANY discovery or history channel show in 20yrs. Duno how millions of ppl arent subbed to this channel
Places like that are the salt of the earth. When I was a student in London there was a tiny cafe that did tea in pint mugs and dagwoods, if you were homeless a mug of tea could take all day and no one minded. The guys were so kind to every one. Bravo Jen
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I wouldn't recommend a drip feed diesel heater. Whilst it is very efficient in terms of heat production and gives a dry heat due to the flue, it does have the major disadvantage that the entire boat smells of diesel. I had on my my 36' gaff cutter and spent 10 years smelling of diesel. The smell got everywhere. Into clothes, food, hair, everything. Not good. Using an Eberspächer style diesel heater is an alternative that doesn't smell (much), but that uses a heck a lot of electrical power to blow the hot air around the ducting. Wood is okay, but I'd really suggest looking at a heater that burns charcoal primarily and (dry) wood as a backup. Just not diesel. Take care when designing your interior to allow a good air circulation especially to the ends of the boat else you'll find that the heater/galley/people producing heat in the centre the boat will drive any condensation away to the bow and stern and since this will be non-salt water, it will encourage rot.
I concur to prevent the snel of diesel throughout the boat and everything else, so consider using either: - Cooling water of the engine - the same fuel as you use for your cooking - or a heatpump although this could be to high TEC.and not easily available. (Eg. The heatpump of an Tesla)
when a specific type of heater uses a lot of electricity to blow around air you might consider peltier elements(TECs) as a source of electricity, they work on temperature differences and you have two sources of heat: the engine and the heater, as well as seawater for the cold side. EDIT: tech ingredients demonstrates that with a campfire and a river: ruclips.net/video/hDLWO_Iaflc/видео.html
If you want to use diesel to provide heat, maybe use an Eberspacher and radiators? In my experience not often seen on lumpy water boats (there is probably a good reason why not that eludes me) but if designed in to the fit out, I see no reason why it wouldn't provide efficient heat throughout the boat?
If you already couldn't see the obvious enjoyment and just plain fun the crew is having with this beautiful project, this week's version shows what a great time they are having as a team. Love the work, love the passion.
Don't forget rigging paths and structure able to assist with rigging heavy engines for install or maintenance. I work on a lot of Navy boats and find myself scratching my head because it never seems to be on anyone's mind during this phase to be able to support maintenance.
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I will skip everything, and get right to the suggestion. It may be good to consider an access panel, beneath the Master double berth, for port-side engine access. Even something that takes ten minutes to remove would be easier than creating a hole where there wasn't one, especially out on the water. Thanks for all the inspiration, humor, and hard work! Man, I want a stromboli...
I sure there's room between ths bulkhead and the engine. W/all the accessories on the Rt side of the engine, there will be no reason ( except catastrophic) to work un that area.
I must admit something here. This series/ vlog has become a really incredible comfort for my folks and me who have taken to watching it together on the weekends when a new episode drops. Everyone knows how hard these past couple years have been, and strangely enough this random channel that RUclips algorithmed me 2.5 years ago has provided a constant sense goodness for my family. Thanks Leo and crew! Ps. My mother is awful with names. She knows Leo. Her favorite is Pete, though she was raised in a super conservative Catholic family so she constantly harps about his nose ring piercing. But she refers to Rowan as "Van Guy", and Patrick as "Fake Pete", cause apparently she's bad with faces too. Anyhow thought I'd share! Edit: clarity? I hope...
Septum piercings in particular irritate a lot of people it seems, not just conservative type lol. They kind of annoy me and I like piercings generally, I actually wanted my septum pierced the first time I saw it when I was like 12, granted it was also not very common then.
Helpful hint to your signmaker, 'O's ' S's ' and the other letters are always slightly taller as the visual makes the actual letters with rounded tops or bottoms look smaller, as described in the old Speedball lettering text books, I don't mean this as a prick, but having help as we grow always endears one generation to the next, I started out painting Carnival trucks and side shows, taught by an old salty dog who used to stagger around saying things like: 'Don't mix the blue, with the brew!' ( and he used to piss in his paint to prevent fisheye...)
Right, spacing and sizes of characters is related to the area they occupy in order to remain “balanced”. Not to pile on but I thought the “S” could have been a bit tighter.
That’s a nice job. I would recommend getting some proper signwriting brushes and lettering enamel. Artist brushes make lettering a chore. There are lots of hand lettering resources on RUclips.
@@comsigninc Any brush would do to an artisan, but Sign Painter's Quills are a sight more expensive and she would either have to risk her life going into Portland to get them or order them online...and...she got the job done famously irregardless.
I'd suggest you throw a tarp over the deck to simulate "night time" and then mock up the lighting and look at shadows. LED lighting would be a good choice (I'd go with a "warm white" color to accent the wood). There is never enough lighting, especially in storage locations.
That is a pretty clever and cheap prototyping experiment. Maybe we could start a thread with ideas like that. I'm trying to think of an experiment like that to add to the mix, and sound comes to mind (like testing how nasty the engine might sound from the master berth), but I'm not really that sure how to experiment with it. You could maybe find some soundproof blankets and play sounds at specific volumes with a speaker, but it'll be mostly guesses as to how loud and how dampening everything will be. Another idea might be to mockup the cockpit and see how much space is really left for all you systems, specifically, how reachable will all those systems be, with all the weird nooks and crannies that will be there. Especially when the boat is tilting in the waves. That said I am a complete lay and I don't know what I am talking about.
I wouldn't make the light too warm, since the wood will warm it up too. Especially in work areas something closer to daylight is usually better. But the salon and sleeping areas are nicer when they are warmer.
Rowan and Patrick are freaking hilarious. Thanks for including that leo I needed that laugh. I actually had to watch its several times it was so good. Kudos to them both. If I had to work with those two, I wouldn't get much done, it definitely must be a challenge for you all.... LOL
Making work not look like working, I totally agree with you and I think it’s more about the guy you are working for creating a great working environment
Easily in my top 3 episodes! The thoughtfulness of the spoken explanatory coupled with the visual explanatory made your expectations self evident. What a great teaser for all future episodes.
Gday cobber, nice layout but my two bobs worth. The bulkhead in the master cabin could be a or a couple of removable panels to give access to the port side of the iron sail as you won't want to be leaning over it in a seaway. And your probably on to it but a removable panel in the wet locker for better access to the front. Sailors don't like motors and hide them away but when it's time to work on them you want full access.🏴☠️🍺
"Remember not to use up all that hot glue, cuz we gotta put the ballast keel on still." That's some pure comedy gold right there! I don't care who you are! 😂
I’m so happy this is the only time I have heard anyone on Leo’s channel ask us to like the video, subscribe, and ring the bell and I’m so glad the boys said it sarcastically. I hate it when RUclips stars beg us for likes and subscriptions. If it is good, we know to like and if they have good content, we will subscribe. Thanks you Leo for being better than the rest.
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Might be annoying to some but i thought that’s how they get paid for their work? Other than ads which I don’t think I’ve ever seen in a Leo production.
Can't imagine why my kids spend their life watching useless 'influencers' doing everything to attract views. And they don't even understand it, even when we explain. While there's so much quality to find on RUclips also
@@ronhudson3730 - yes, it’s how they get paid as does Leo, that and Patreon, but he doesn’t give us instructions to like and subscribe and he’s doing just fine.
The amount of "thinking" that you have put into the interior layout amazes me. Not to deter any dreamers out there wanting to build their own, but this episode, above all others, shows just how much previous sailing knowledge a person needs. Great episode, one of my favorites .. almost as good as the lofting episodes!!! Thanks for sharing 🇨🇦
A good observation, Paul. Experience counts and if there is a lack of that then preparedness to seek advice becomes very necessary. Leo has no shortage of experience though and it shines through.
@@Phyde4ux Not speaking for Mr. Cooper, obviously, but many people wrongly use quotes for emphasis. I'm not sure where that comes from but it is quite common in the U.S. I have never seen them used that way in other English speaking countries I have lived in or visited.
Holy smokes, the productivity level of Leo and his crew is unreal, and how he manages to film it all and well. This boat is a master work. I cannot wait to see her under sail.
@@Charon-5582 Sounds like something that should be normal, but I think the reality is this high end leadership, high team skill and excellent team cohesion is rare in my experience. Don’t get me wrong, I’ve worked in some great crews with excellent leaders, who were also good teachers, but in the business I was working in most of the workforce was volunteer and constantly turning over, so it was very hard to get people trained to a decent standard and then keep them around long enough to see the benefits of it. We had some short bursts of high efficiency and relished them while we could.
I totally agree, but when you look back at all previous episodes it's very evident that this young man possesses amazing man management skills, forward planning and great work ethics.
Great episode! Fantastic name choice; Stromboli on the waves. “Wood in boat “ classic Pete. The layout Leo has so far is on point. Rowan and Patrick, somebody has to write a buddy movie for these two to star in.
LOL! " “Wood in boat “ classic Pete." Perfect! "Rowan and Patrick, somebody has to write a buddy movie for these two to star in." Couldn't agree more! Super-nerd and art-nerd drifters work in various occupations as they travel about, finally landing at Tally-Ho. Revelations and epiphanies occur, with Poncho having a vital role in that. I'd gladly write that if I knew how scripts were put together and I could spend 2 weeks around those two...
Make a semi permanent, but removable panel so the other side of the engine can be accessed if really necessary from the double bunk cabin. Could come in handy when fitting or removing gearbox or aligning prop shaft coupling by moving engine on its mounts etc.
with the ability of the bed to swing up providing more room. In--fact I think he should hing most of the beds so that any of the rooms can have a touch more space if needed.
You've clearly given a lot of time and thought to this interior, and I think you have made an excellent use of the space. I don't see any hiccups. I suspect you will find the general plan to be great and only make small changes as you go. As you said, moving anything can change everything..plumbing, electrical, etc. When I was a boy my Father and Uncle did a refit of a 31 ft cruiser, a fellow in the marina was doing a complete gut and refit of a old trawler, about 50 ft. He did the cardboard mock up like you have done and then he started at one end building towards the other, replacing the mock up with the final pieces, then removed it all to install the systems. It was the first time I had seen something like that and still remember visiting him at the marina on "boat work weekends" some 50 years ago. The guy had the white beard the weathered skin and the squint of a sailor from the last century, smoked a pipe even. He had the salty language and manner to go with it...then one day his wife visited and she let it slip he was a retired librarian.
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You could raise the seating and table in the salon on a platform to push the seats further outboard. That way you can have a larger Table. The seating on the galley side would also be higher, like bar hight, to make for a high backrest to lean on.
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The higher up and more outboard those seats are, the more rocking and rolling you're going to feel in the waves. Though I could see going a couple inches higher. I'd rather see the rest of the room made up on the galley side with a slightly narrower counter space.
Leo, fantastic to see the boat really coming together! What a treat. One thought; do yourself a massive favour by making a hatch between the master cabin and the engine room. A well insulated hatch of course, and it will hardly ever be used, but boy will you be happy when you actually really need to work on the port side of the engine , or a future engine that might have very different key areas that happen to be on that side. The breach of integrity of the bulkhead between the two spaces can actually be constructed in such a way that it will not compromise safety or sound insulation. A little more work now, but a huge difference in the long run.
I would recommend that. I know nothing about boats, I do know that if access to a part of an engine is restricted that will be the part that you need to get to. Having to tear down a bulkhead might not be something you want to do. A hatch, engine sized that can be opened if needed would probably be simpler now than in the future, especially on a lee shore when you need that engine running. No plan ever survives first contact.
As a woodworker, I consider it a blessing to have this build concurrent with Acorn to Arabella and a whole different wooden build at Six Points Woodworking while the steel boat at SV Seeker is finishing up. All the different techniques and tips I have picked up from the craftsmen over the years would take decades to learn in all those different shops. Thank you for preserving history and making it come alive every week. Cheers!
If only there was some sort of thing that had five individual finger protectors, sewn onto a palm protector. oh Oh OH! Then they could be sold as a pair!!! This would be absolutely genius!!! Owen and Patrick wouldn’t get so many splinters, genius I’m telling you; PURE GENIUS!! Really love you guys! Wish I was about thirty years younger, I would sooo be there with you!
Leo, on our 35' sailboat, the "Klaskish," I'd have to say the single best improvement was the addition of a custom-welded woodstove. We also have a double bus heater plumbed into the engine, for when it's running, so it is impossible to be cold on our boat. The woodstove not only heats every part of the boat, but also generates air circulation by sucking air out of the bilges, -and for extreme cold, we've plumbed in an exterior vent which draws air from outside. We don't pack a whole lot of firewood for the cruising and work we do with our boat around here on the BC Central Coast , usually 4-5 days worth at a time, because excellent quality ready-to-burn firewood is ubiquitously availalble everywhere and it's fun to gather any time we're ashore. The stove can easily get the boat very hot inside, but ventilating the boat is a breeze by simply opening the forward hatch and the companionway, and swoosh out any excess heat immediately. In this way there's plenty of control to regulate the heat. Around here, we find that a lot of heat is essential for the total comfort of the boat. A diesel heater might be "convenient," but it will cost you at least $10 a day and climbing as the cost of fuel inexorably increases. And, although your "mock-up" doesn't go into whatever deck shelter (dodger etc) that you plan to install, my recommendation is go as big, dry and sheltered as possible! I got rid of all the canvas on our dodger, and used the SS tubing to bolt on a simple wood framework upon which I mounted polycarbonate sheeting. It's totally comfortable and I can see all my sails right through the roof! Please come tie up at our dock near Bella Bella BC once you start your voyage!! Cheers, Ingmar and Zephyr (age 10 and who always eagerly awaits the next Tally Ho video!)
If he ever plans to sail in the lower latitudes, having an air-conditioner for the boat would be very nice to have... People in the UK often do not have air-conditioners in their houses because the weather is fairly cool there even in the summer... That's most definitely NOT the case here along the Gulf Coast...
This video was most excellent. Thank Lir for the hypersensitive neighbor, because the videos have expanded into the rich and briney world of the Port Townsend boat yard. And the narrative ... Talley Ho is reified before our eyes! The crew sails! Leo conjures up a sea-chart weighted down with a brass sextant!
"Save some hot melt glue for the keel!" Hysterical! You put us right inside your head, Leo, with the mock up. Excellent. Please get rid of those piles of sawdust in the hull. Go Stromboli!
Very much interested in learning about the plumbing systems - freshwater storage, 'head' pressure, and raw sewage dump with regards to water levels? Thanks! Love this channel and learning about shipbuilding craftspersonship!
Looking great inside, it’s going to be realy cosy! I would maybe consider raising the floor height in the couch area so the back rest can be pushed further back towards the hull, you dont need the head room there so much.,You could then even have pantry drawers under the raised floor
If you make the backrest of the saloon bench folding up you get one more sleeping place. One can sleep on the original seat and the other one above on the backrest. The sleeping place underneath is quite comfortable because it can be wider when the backrest is in his upper position. Lots of old racing yachts used that solution. I hope this idea helps and Leo has enough time to read it.
While I am eagerly looking forward to the completion of Tally Ho I find myself savoring each step of the build. This is such a satisfying project to watch.
I love this mock up, but I thought since you wouldn't be standing up while you were at the dining table, you could take advantage of the wide hips by raising the floor under the table about 16". It would give you so much more room. Plus you could add pantry right behind the galley in the raised floor. STROMBOLI!! 🤘😎
I love jens place, it’s been a couple years since I’ve been in that town but she was always such a sweetheart! Even compared to how nice everyone in town is she’s next level, oh and the food is great too!
My husband and I are addicted to the show. We started at the beginning and we enjoy it so much!! Tempted to seek ahead, but we are faithful sticking to each episode.
Hey Leo, maybe in the salon area the 'L' shaped seating could be lifted up by one step allowing it to be pushed further back/out against the hull giving a little more usable width around the table and kitchen area. She is looking great and congrats on getting this far.
I was thinking this as well. you don't need as much head room while seated and stepping it up will allow for more storage under it and give more space in general. Having the table drop down flat with the seating would also provide another sleeping area if needed.
Yup, my thoughts exactly. Doing this may then give you the space to have the bench seat running down the centerline that you mentioned, and therefore give something solid to lean against whilst working in the galley. Also agree with pushing the galley as far outboard as possible as mentioned by someone earlier.
Yea, it was a bit low, though there's also something to be said for putting storage in that 'empty space'. Personally, I wouldn't want my benches that low in general, and raising them moves the seat rather naturally (and of course you will have storage in/under the seat).
Don’t worry about needing back support for using the galley at sea as you can simply use a back strap that clips on. I sailed my own 44 footer with a long galley 26,000 miles with this solution and it worked perfectly
Among the long list of astounding accomplishments on this project, Leo, I'm blown away by your ability to walk through a cramped space with a video camera and demonstrate very clearly the layout of the space. Building aside, this video alone is an impressive feat. The layout is very clear to understand, and features far more living space than I had thought possible. Keep up the awesome work!
This was the best episode in a while! The interior mockup was super cool to see. And the stromboli is just sublime. I'm impressed how much room there is in the boat. Seems like a nice place to live in!
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Great layout, you're on top of it and just the tweaking to do by the look. Only suggestion I'd make is making a removable panel in the bulkhead on the port-side of the engine to access that side of the engine from the cabin. You might never need it except for that one time when you really do. Looks like you guys have a lot of fun doing this, it's a joy to watch. Thanks for letting us come along.
As Leo walked through the mocked up interior I got a little tear in my eye thinking about the Tally Ho underway with people sailing and living aboard, little flashes of double vision where I can see in my minds eye the fully finished, lived in interiors overlaid on the sheets of plywood...
I always wanted a boat but it was this series that convinced me, I just bought my first sailboat (a small boat of 19 feet abandoned that I restore) so thank you very much and good luck for the rest of this adventure ! (excuse my weird english, i'm french)
Not very experienced with ships and boats but an idea for extra birthing space might be to hang hammocks in the saloon. The hooks or rings (depending on design) for attaching the hammocks might blend in nicely when not in use and the hammocks could easily be brought out when more crew is needed onboard. Can’t imagine they would take up a lot of storage space.
Leo, any thoughts of putting a flip down section to the Pilot's birth giving you a much larger bunk, width wise, since you won't need to access the engine room all that often? It could flip out of the way when not in use and the mattress or what ever is used for cushion could be in sections like an RV hide away bed.
the same thought popped into my head, i have 0 sailing experience (although i'm studying to be an architect) and a sort-of futon thing that could give a wider bed on the pilot's cabin popped into my head right before i became too amazed at the sheer brilliance and all the architectural details to really think of any criticism
As a non-sailor, the name of the "pilot's birth" puzzles me. Is it actually for a pilot? I didn't even realise that small boats needed pilots, but, if they do, surely they're only on the boat for a few hours, not overnight? Presumably, this is just a historical name that doesn't actually mean what it says?
I now have a whole new perspective on Tally Ho. The interior is indeed far more roomy than I had imagined. Thank you for this very timely and exciting episode. Cheers
I think the nav station is a great Add.. space for you chronometer’s and sextant chart storage and table..good spot for radio’s ext…plus of course film edit… can’t wait to see it come together.. I learned traditional navigation in the U.S. Navy as a QM..So I enjoy the idea of getting around the world by sun and stars..maybe gps as a backup..And maybe a weather station… Exciting times watching your plans come together..cheers
@John C plus it’s a traditional method of navigating that was used when Tally Ho was originally built and sailed.And if you’re good at it it’s as accurate as you’ll need.
@John C I’ve used LORAN around the Pacific without fail. Also used the NAVSAT .. My ship was one of two ships to test the GPS back in the day… But there is just a nostalgia to shooting the sun and stars..having a real chart..I’ve always loved it..Dead Reckoning I wanted to buy a chronometer like the ones I used on the ship…. OMG are they expensive lol…
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true… gps and digital charts are always accurate… and probably cheaper.. But I’m liking the idea of keeping to the traditions of sailing wooden ships using period correct methods.. A good skipper / navigator shouldn’t have any problems.. I would actually want the challenge…Studying winds tides and currents is also important..tides can be found in manuals.. makes me wish I was a kid again…my last pacific tour navigating was 73k nautical miles…and still wanted to see more lol… Using traditional navigation methods we where never off by more than +/- 2 miles
What a pain! 2 weeks (?) to get another update on this fantastic project! I will continue to binge watch previous episodes (2nd time around) I can only reiterate the many previous comments on the craftsmanship, attention to detail, dedication and outright stubborness displayed by Leo (YACHTSMAN!) and his motley crew. Hooked, subscribed and contributing from afar.Greetings to all involved with special thanks to all Port Townsend and Sequim Locals for their amazing support (I exclude the whinging neighbours who tried to Deep Six the rebuild)
My only comment has to do with the engine room. I feel you might want to give more access to the far side of the engine. Also, at some point you may need to remove and replace the engine, so it may be prudent to visualize how that can be accomplished once the interior is done. Just a thought.
For Nina; my mom was a commercial artist back in the last century, learning to be competent in lettering was part of a 2-year college degree (1936 graduate). What brings all this to mind was that her name was "Marian" and she would fashion her letter "M" just like the "m" in Stromboli.
It has been exciting all along, but this is the part of the build where the cruising/racing experience gets designed. One of my lessons in long distance sailing was to make choices that will be kinder to the crew. A comfortable crew gets better rest and, as a result, makes better choices and executes maneuvers with fewer mistakes. I suspect this hull designed so long ago will create a kindly motion compared to more modern performance-oriented shapes, but it is always good to keep crew comfort in mind....even if you are all young.
Layout thoughts: -rotate head 90 degrees so you face forward sitting on it. Easier to use on either tack. -add access panel for port side of engine -table looks narrow for all the plates and dishes needed for seating a larger crew -galley counter looks deep may need to give some of the to the salon table, consider temporary flip up or flip out extra counter space -very smart move to mock up the layout!
Leo , crew , loving the movie , I hang out for the next episode just like the other 300,000+ souls who have watched this in the last 24 hours !!! .......You got the Positive Vibrations happening Mon! Respect !The whole thing is marvellous . Nice meeting the bods around the PT boatyard too. Here in Oz we're in lockdown for weeks . It's tedious to be sure ! Many of us globally are in the same boat , living in the virtual reality of what you're sharing . ! It's kinda "quantum -groovy" eh ? Pardon me chucking my oar in ( but hey ) , the main cabin is such a nice big area but you're cutting it in half by devoting one side to each purpose and then having to think about a back support thus further dividing it . This reduces the usable feet space though it does give nice props and purchases in a seaway . By having a U-shaped galley you could open up the salon in one main area -just to give that kinda ambient spacious feeling with seating on both sides , a strategically placed wood/coal heater to keep it real , and a folding table that would still allow plenty to hang on to - maybe the odd grab rail overhead in the middle of the widest space . Thing is , everywhere else in the boat is tight . You want an area where you could dance at least a couple of steps . Then your "feet-consciousness can relax" . You'll appreciate it when you get older . Just my 2 bobs worth Cap'n . (I dips me lid :) The boat is a work of art , and it's quite a decent size boat and the salon is the centre - the heart , the warm place . Hey here's a thought : Rocket stove ! Design and build your own , you can weld and cut steel . Rocket-stoves are the most economical in fuel and burn up to 96% of the potential energy reducing the exhaust pollutive gaseous emissions to tiny amount + some water . you burn stick size pieces like the stuff that blows down out of trees in a wind , coal , pellets etc. I've built a few out of various materials without welding , and they seriously work. The principle of the "sideways burn" is age-old knowledge for getting kilns up to firing temps . You can find various design principles online . It's possible to make a small iron rocket stove that puts out a lot of heat . The flueing radiates a significant part of the heat so you want a good heat reflector behind it . Even just out of interest it's worth looking at the natural principles of these stoves . Pretty amazing simple tech . They've save many third world shanty districts from respiratory diseases caused by a million smoky cooking fires . Cheers , and thanks .
I second the suggestion to look at putting in a rocket stove. For my own upcoming bluewater cruiser build, I've had the idea of a rocket stove sitting on the back-burner (pun intended) for a long time now.
@@onenessbe9991 - Sadly, no, I haven't. Putting a rocket stove aboard a sailboat does present some interesting challenges. Especially if you want to use it for more than just heating.
@@Garryck-1 True . A large proportion of the heat comes off the flue . In earth houses they sometimes box in the exhaust piping and fill it with masonry to form a "heat battery " . You could maybe turn a bulkhead into a heat battery if you could spare the space somehow ? Otherwise just a rocket stove and flue could suffice . I'm thinking of a horizontal steel pipe ( old steam pipe) - maybe 10in diameter with 4 in vertical pipe inserts either end for inlet and exhaust . A 10 inch reburn chamber over the exhaust chimney with another exhaust outlet leading to the flue/chimney exiting the salon roof . 4 re-bar legs . A maintenance door underneath to clean out ash . It would require some steel cutting and welding /design skills . I find the subject fascinating .
@@onenessbe9991 - The biggest problem with a 'heat battery' aboard a sailboat, is the weight. As for a plain rocket stove, I'd love to one day work with a RS designer to see what could be done. Unfortunately, there are very few people experimenting with them here in Australia. And the ones I'm aware of, are mostly still trying to figure this stuff out themselves. They still don't have any designs they seem really satisfied with.
You could install a rail on the front of the galley side, use as a handrail, or be able to hook onto it in choppy weather It used to be a thing that the front edge of bar tops had a rail that tipsy people could wrap their belt around to stop them falling :D
Not a cliche to say teamwork makes the dreamwork Leo, and you exemplify the difference between a mere manager and a true leader. I remember the day when you first boarded the old Tally Ho in the sorry state she was in and decided to give her refurb a go. Right then, I realised you have bigger balls than most. The endgame is in sight now, an exit strategy from a "building" mindset to a "sailing "mindset is required and I`m certain you can see it. von Clausewitz said two hundred years ago, amateurs think about tactics, professionals consider logistics, ( I`m paraphrasing), but he`d be well-impressed with your efforts mate ! As am I !
Great layout. For the port side engine access, maybe a hatch opening in the double berth leading to a hatch opening on the wall to allow access to that side of the engine?
as Leo said most accessories are on the accessible side.if you want to remove a panel to look at the hole caused by a connecting rod ? fuel oil and air filter minor .injectors valves a concern . hole in the block it has to come out anyway. we had banks of two 6-71 detroit diesels the exhaust sides of the engines weren't really accessible. there were inspection plates between the engines but if you had to look the engine probably needed to be replaced.
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Having lived on a boat for a long time I would say do not skimp on comfort and space.. invest in appliances that are small but might cost more because that one inch could be the difference between a nuisance and something liveable Create a nice cabin for yourself, you seem more crew orientated which is nice but don't let that take away from the fact that this will be your home aswell. Work with a lot of flexible solutions like flip up bunks slide out tables etc etc. Most likely you end up leaving them in one position but atleast you have options. Shower space has always been an issue for me on board, make sure you have a nice shower. Diesel central heating is the best thing you can get, stoves inside the cabin always annoyed me to death and central heaters can be used to heat certain spaces really efficient
I've watched every video from the beginning, and I was surprised by how much this felt like the beginning of a new chapter. I had to watch it twice! It feels like it went from "making an object" to "planning the adventure" - Amazing & so fun! I know you could see it all along, but I guess it took bulkheads for me to truly see it lol. I can see it!
The mockup is brilliant, and it finally gives me a sense of what the boat will be like when finished. I don't think I ever got a proper sense of scale from previous videos, and this really helps.
I like the way you lettered Stromboli, Nina, marking straight lines but free handing the curves. Very cool, you should be busy lettering boats in no time! Nice layout.
Since you picked 'Stromboli' for the Flying Scot I hope you are saving 'Poncho' for Tally Ho's Tender!
here here vote poncho for tender!
Have to sort out how her name is spelt first!
Yes awesome!
@@paulhaynes8045 fair point, Poncho is a garment, Pancho is a proper noun, a male name meaning 'Free' in Spanish. The later is probably the better choice.
Only if it’s mast grows when it lies.
A few years in and I still enjoy this series
Yeah, well, I remember for the first long time it was the “108 year old …”
This makes no sense
The whole restoration has and will only last two years
@@Kroiznacher lol… AT LEAST 2 more years, probably 3
@@Kroiznacher I'm glad someone understands!
@@SampsonBoatCo The boat could be finished really quickly with just a few more clamps
I love the way Pete has quietly come out of his shell over the months and years
What? That’s no shell, that’s walking sarcasm.
When I would build or restore a wooden boat. Sail or trawler I would like Pete and Leo to be the guys in charge. Great workman’s craft and for all they are proud of what they are doing. Great guys all of you and thanks for taking us on your journey of this great project
Totally
Totally agree
I really, really enjoyed how much personality was in this episode. I think everyone is finally getting less awkward being on camera. - just fun all around to watch.
I am loving all the random shots of boats being pulled in and out of the water. Please keep doing that
same here 😁
Shout-out to Pete for his patience in explaining all the stuff to us muggles.
He is great.. But I'm still hearing -"whatcha doin Pete?" whenever I see him in the video :)
Shout out to Pete just for being a general all round amazing guy. Hes a super hero.
@@pamatkinson1950 yes indeed.
“Lubbers”
The last 17 years I m working on yacht interiors. When I see your plan, it feels good. Like you said, there are many things you have to keep in mind.
Electrical, pipes, equipment etc. Try to not forget to engineer all this systems before closing walls.
At this moment you see also all the effort you take in the stage before. The rivets, the casting, the nice shap of the hull, everything comes together.
A big compliment to your crew and your skills and effort on this project!
To make video’s and edit them next to a huge project like this is very time consuming, but we are the happy one’s ho enjoy your serie!
You work for North Shore yachts?
@@zekeblack7004 no, for vandermeijden in the Netherlands. We work for oceanco, heesen, feadship, amels etc.
Tally ho is much more classic boatbuilding but, very interesting!
@@patrickvg1646 ahh i see sir-! There is a man i met im almost POSITIVE was named Patrick, i believe worked as lead carpenter for North Shore? North Coast? Anyways, super amazing guy as well, was hoping accidentally was you-!! But how AMAZING is it you do the same? And i so appreciated your comment, as i too think layout is especially challenging in close spaces with that many curves...AND in a marine environment; not the friendliest. Whats the biggest hull your yard sees?
Chart table is non-negotiable. Even if you're navigating with GPS, a dedicated space for the navigator is clutch. Glad to see you've included it! Haters can suck it
Thats where comms will be located as well. So agreed it is crucial. And I like that its forward facing
As a veteran navigator on dozens of long distance races, I concur. Chart plotters can and do fail. Always know where you are even if your electronics fail. There's nothing better than a secure chart table to use to plot your course, especially in heavy weather with water cascading everywhere.
And are required by law.....
Sea water, electronics, flat batteries, charging issues and a GPS that can be turned off, are points of possible failure of a critical system. GPS is as a back up but maps, stars, the sun, land features are more reliable. And more pleasant to use in my opinion.
the location seems strange to me... having it right next to where all the cooking is being done seems like a recipe for disaster. food on nice expensive charts would suck. i hope they have something in mind to prevent that.
I just rewatch these vids. Found leo when he was 1 man building a shed over a boat. So great to see this project growing. Its better than ANY discovery or history channel show in 20yrs. Duno how millions of ppl arent subbed to this channel
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@@DonQuixotedeKaw thanks. I'll take a gander. 🎉
While cardboard masts are obviously the way of the future, I think we can all agree the technology isn't quite there yet.
Every episode is like a highlight of my week.
I seem to be missing some weeks !
Wow, how nice is Jen from the cafe. A natural on camera too.
Im craving one of those strombolis. But i dont think i could eat them everyday.
Places like that are the salt of the earth. When I was a student in London there was a tiny cafe that did tea in pint mugs and dagwoods, if you were homeless a mug of tea could take all day and no one minded. The guys were so kind to every one. Bravo Jen
Jen is absolutely a Gem. I bet she works as hard as anyone in the yard. Jen, a Gem, a treasure.
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I wouldn't recommend a drip feed diesel heater. Whilst it is very efficient in terms of heat production and gives a dry heat due to the flue, it does have the major disadvantage that the entire boat smells of diesel. I had on my my 36' gaff cutter and spent 10 years smelling of diesel. The smell got everywhere. Into clothes, food, hair, everything. Not good.
Using an Eberspächer style diesel heater is an alternative that doesn't smell (much), but that uses a heck a lot of electrical power to blow the hot air around the ducting.
Wood is okay, but I'd really suggest looking at a heater that burns charcoal primarily and (dry) wood as a backup.
Just not diesel.
Take care when designing your interior to allow a good air circulation especially to the ends of the boat else you'll find that the heater/galley/people producing heat in the centre the boat will drive any condensation away to the bow and stern and since this will be non-salt water, it will encourage rot.
Or a propane heater.
I concur to prevent the snel of diesel throughout the boat and everything else, so consider using either:
- Cooling water of the engine
- the same fuel as you use for your cooking
- or a heatpump although this could be to high TEC.and not easily available. (Eg. The heatpump of an Tesla)
when a specific type of heater uses a lot of electricity to blow around air you might consider peltier elements(TECs) as a source of electricity, they work on temperature differences and you have two sources of heat: the engine and the heater, as well as seawater for the cold side.
EDIT: tech ingredients demonstrates that with a campfire and a river:
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If you want to use diesel to provide heat, maybe use an Eberspacher and radiators? In my experience not often seen on lumpy water boats (there is probably a good reason why not that eludes me) but if designed in to the fit out, I see no reason why it wouldn't provide efficient heat throughout the boat?
Coal stove surely? Burn coke or anthracite.
If you already couldn't see the obvious enjoyment and just plain fun the crew is having with this beautiful project, this week's version shows what a great time they are having as a team. Love the work, love the passion.
Don't forget rigging paths and structure able to assist with rigging heavy engines for install or maintenance. I work on a lot of Navy boats and find myself scratching my head because it never seems to be on anyone's mind during this phase to be able to support maintenance.
As for the name of the scot: Pancho would be a great tribute to the bird that is so deeply connected to this project!
It's been suggested several times over the years to use that name for Tally Ho's dingy and it is still an excellent idea.
@@Phyde4ux How about adding a portrait of Pancho as well
They went with "Stromboli" after the Italian dough tacos they eat for lunch.
@@josemcheremm Stromboli is not a workhorse and isn't likely to be Tally Ho's tender...
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I will skip everything, and get right to the suggestion. It may be good to consider an access panel, beneath the Master double berth, for port-side engine access. Even something that takes ten minutes to remove would be easier than creating a hole where there wasn't one, especially out on the water. Thanks for all the inspiration, humor, and hard work! Man, I want a stromboli...
My thought as well.
I'm with you 100%.
Jen's Stromboli!
GMTA
I sure there's room between ths bulkhead and the engine. W/all the accessories on the Rt side of the engine, there will be no reason ( except catastrophic) to work un that area.
Love how Pete first checks the contruction before he jumps on, haha!
You ain't gonna fool ole'Pete!
Lost his feet last time he jumped on without looking.
I must admit something here. This series/ vlog has become a really incredible comfort for my folks and me who have taken to watching it together on the weekends when a new episode drops. Everyone knows how hard these past couple years have been, and strangely enough this random channel that RUclips algorithmed me 2.5 years ago has provided a constant sense goodness for my family. Thanks Leo and crew!
Ps. My mother is awful with names. She knows Leo. Her favorite is Pete, though she was raised in a super conservative Catholic family so she constantly harps about his nose ring piercing. But she refers to Rowan as "Van Guy", and Patrick as "Fake Pete", cause apparently she's bad with faces too. Anyhow thought I'd share!
Edit: clarity? I hope...
Like the thought of you all watching the vids together.
Septum piercings in particular irritate a lot of people it seems, not just conservative type lol. They kind of annoy me and I like piercings generally, I actually wanted my septum pierced the first time I saw it when I was like 12, granted it was also not very common then.
Hahahahah, Fake Pete is as I think Leo would put it, "brilliant"! Lol
And I feel the same way.
Jen looks absolutely delightful and her food must be delicious, life is looking right peachy for the blokes at the moment!
Helpful hint to your signmaker, 'O's ' S's ' and the other letters are always slightly taller as the visual makes the actual letters with rounded tops or bottoms look smaller, as described in the old Speedball lettering text books, I don't mean this as a prick, but having help as we grow always endears one generation to the next, I started out painting Carnival trucks and side shows, taught by an old salty dog who used to stagger around saying things like: 'Don't mix the blue, with the brew!' ( and he used to piss in his paint to prevent fisheye...)
Right, spacing and sizes of characters is related to the area they occupy in order to remain “balanced”. Not to pile on but I thought the “S” could have been a bit tighter.
That’s a nice job. I would recommend getting some proper signwriting brushes and lettering enamel. Artist brushes make lettering a chore. There are lots of hand lettering resources on RUclips.
@@comsigninc Any brush would do to an artisan, but Sign Painter's Quills are a sight more expensive and she would either have to risk her life going into Portland to get them or order them online...and...she got the job done famously irregardless.
@Ysabela Go away
I'd suggest you throw a tarp over the deck to simulate "night time" and then mock up the lighting and look at shadows. LED lighting would be a good choice (I'd go with a "warm white" color to accent the wood). There is never enough lighting, especially in storage locations.
That is a pretty clever and cheap prototyping experiment. Maybe we could start a thread with ideas like that. I'm trying to think of an experiment like that to add to the mix, and sound comes to mind (like testing how nasty the engine might sound from the master berth), but I'm not really that sure how to experiment with it.
You could maybe find some soundproof blankets and play sounds at specific volumes with a speaker, but it'll be mostly guesses as to how loud and how dampening everything will be.
Another idea might be to mockup the cockpit and see how much space is really left for all you systems, specifically, how reachable will all those systems be, with all the weird nooks and crannies that will be there. Especially when the boat is tilting in the waves.
That said I am a complete lay and I don't know what I am talking about.
good idea, the warmer, yellower colours I also find less straining on the eyes
@@favernoogon I prefer warm white too, but you could install hard white too and mix between them.
I wouldn't make the light too warm, since the wood will warm it up too. Especially in work areas something closer to daylight is usually better. But the salon and sleeping areas are nicer when they are warmer.
Also, what about ventilation? How is that arranged with cramped berths, an engine and a stove on board?
Rowan and Patrick are freaking hilarious. Thanks for including that leo I needed that laugh. I actually had to watch its several times it was so good. Kudos to them both. If I had to work with those two, I wouldn't get much done, it definitely must be a challenge for you all.... LOL
So true. A comedic duo that ranks up there with the best of them.
Makes me remember Rowan and Martins laugh in (yes i'm old) :D
Making work not look like working, I totally agree with you and I think it’s more about the guy you are working for creating a great working environment
Easily in my top 3 episodes! The thoughtfulness of the spoken explanatory coupled with the visual explanatory made your expectations self evident. What a great teaser for all future episodes.
Gday cobber, nice layout but my two bobs worth. The bulkhead in the master cabin could be a or a couple of removable panels to give access to the port side of the iron sail as you won't want to be leaning over it in a seaway.
And your probably on to it but a removable panel in the wet locker for better access to the front. Sailors don't like motors and hide them away but when it's time to work on them you want full access.🏴☠️🍺
"Remember not to use up all that hot glue, cuz we gotta put the ballast keel on still."
That's some pure comedy gold right there! I don't care who you are! 😂
Pete's reaction was even better and Leo keeping that in really tied the joke up well! He could've included only the joke!
I’m so happy this is the only time I have heard anyone on Leo’s channel ask us to like the video, subscribe, and ring the bell and I’m so glad the boys said it sarcastically.
I hate it when RUclips stars beg us for likes and subscriptions. If it is good, we know to like and if they have good content, we will subscribe. Thanks you Leo for being better than the rest.
Well said !
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Might be annoying to some but i thought that’s how they get paid for their work? Other than ads which I don’t think I’ve ever seen in a Leo production.
Can't imagine why my kids spend their life watching useless 'influencers' doing everything to attract views. And they don't even understand it, even when we explain. While there's so much quality to find on RUclips also
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The amount of "thinking" that you have put into the interior layout amazes me. Not to deter any dreamers out there wanting to build their own, but this episode, above all others, shows just how much previous sailing knowledge a person needs. Great episode, one of my favorites .. almost as good as the lofting episodes!!! Thanks for sharing 🇨🇦
A good observation, Paul. Experience counts and if there is a lack of that then preparedness to seek advice becomes very necessary.
Leo has no shortage of experience though and it shines through.
Why is thinking in quotes?
@@Phyde4ux Not speaking for Mr. Cooper, obviously, but many people wrongly use quotes for emphasis. I'm not sure where that comes from but it is quite common in the U.S. I have never seen them used that way in other English speaking countries I have lived in or visited.
Holy smokes, the productivity level of Leo and his crew is unreal, and how he manages to film it all and well. This boat is a master work. I cannot wait to see her under sail.
That's what happens when you have good leadership and good workers just going at a project.
@@Charon-5582 Sounds like something that should be normal, but I think the reality is this high end leadership, high team skill and excellent team cohesion is rare in my experience. Don’t get me wrong, I’ve worked in some great crews with excellent leaders, who were also good teachers, but in the business I was working in most of the workforce was volunteer and constantly turning over, so it was very hard to get people trained to a decent standard and then keep them around long enough to see the benefits of it. We had some short bursts of high efficiency and relished them while we could.
@@squarerigapprentice it definitely isn't easy to get a good crew of people together these days... ours is a culture of mediocrity.
I totally agree, but when you look back at all previous episodes it's very evident that this young man possesses amazing man management skills, forward planning and great work ethics.
Stromboli is a wonderful and appropriate name for that boat.
Great episode!
Fantastic name choice; Stromboli on the waves.
“Wood in boat “ classic Pete.
The layout Leo has so far is on point.
Rowan and Patrick, somebody has to write a buddy movie for these two to star in.
LOL!
" “Wood in boat “ classic Pete." Perfect!
"Rowan and Patrick, somebody has to write a buddy movie for these two to star in." Couldn't agree more! Super-nerd and art-nerd drifters work in various occupations as they travel about, finally landing at Tally-Ho. Revelations and epiphanies occur, with Poncho having a vital role in that.
I'd gladly write that if I knew how scripts were put together and I could spend 2 weeks around those two...
Make a semi permanent, but removable panel so the other side of the engine can be accessed if really necessary from the double bunk cabin. Could come in handy when fitting or removing gearbox or aligning prop shaft coupling by moving engine on its mounts etc.
with the ability of the bed to swing up providing more room. In--fact I think he should hing most of the beds so that any of the rooms can have a touch more space if needed.
For sure engines are normally hell to access
You've clearly given a lot of time and thought to this interior, and I think you have made an excellent use of the space. I don't see any hiccups. I suspect you will find the general plan to be great and only make small changes as you go.
As you said, moving anything can change everything..plumbing, electrical, etc. When I was a boy my Father and Uncle did a refit of a 31 ft cruiser, a fellow in the marina was doing a complete gut and refit of a old trawler, about 50 ft. He did the cardboard mock up like you have done and then he started at one end building towards the other, replacing the mock up with the final pieces, then removed it all to install the systems.
It was the first time I had seen something like that and still remember visiting him at the marina on "boat work weekends" some 50 years ago. The guy had the white beard the weathered skin and the squint of a sailor from the last century, smoked a pipe even. He had the salty language and manner to go with it...then one day his wife visited and she let it slip he was a retired librarian.
wait, what? you're saying Leo is a retired librarian?
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*WHEN THIS STARTED* and the boat was delivered - I NEVER thought it would ever be finished... And here we are, starting to fit the interior...
Thank you Jen’s Place.
You could raise the seating and table in the salon on a platform to push the seats further outboard. That way you can have a larger Table. The seating on the galley side would also be higher, like bar hight, to make for a high backrest to lean on.
that and / or using the space to port of the seating for a pilot berth with a removable bookshelve
Good comment.
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The higher up and more outboard those seats are, the more rocking and rolling you're going to feel in the waves. Though I could see going a couple inches higher. I'd rather see the rest of the room made up on the galley side with a slightly narrower counter space.
Leo, fantastic to see the boat really coming together! What a treat. One thought; do yourself a massive favour by making a hatch between the master cabin and the engine room. A well insulated hatch of course, and it will hardly ever be used, but boy will you be happy when you actually really need to work on the port side of the engine , or a future engine that might have very different key areas that happen to be on that side. The breach of integrity of the bulkhead between the two spaces can actually be constructed in such a way that it will not compromise safety or sound insulation. A little more work now, but a huge difference in the long run.
Great idea, Hey een Nederlander hier. Je bent niet de enige trouwens
You never have too much room to work on engines.
Excellent contribution.
I would recommend that. I know nothing about boats, I do know that if access to a part of an engine is restricted that will be the part that you need to get to. Having to tear down a bulkhead might not be something you want to do. A hatch, engine sized that can be opened if needed would probably be simpler now than in the future, especially on a lee shore when you need that engine running. No plan ever survives first contact.
As a woodworker, I consider it a blessing to have this build concurrent with Acorn to Arabella and a whole different wooden build at Six Points Woodworking while the steel boat at SV Seeker is finishing up. All the different techniques and tips I have picked up from the craftsmen over the years would take decades to learn in all those different shops. Thank you for preserving history and making it come alive every week. Cheers!
Don't leave out that crazy aussie ,life on the hulls, he will be demolding his deck on a 42 ft trimaran soon...oughta be a riot
Check out dave at Engels Coach Shop
@@malliz1 thank you! Yes, I found him when he was building the borax wagons. More woodworking magic from Mr. Engel!
To make the best use of small spaces try visiting a camping and caravanning for inspirations and ideas.
If only there was some sort of thing that had five individual finger protectors, sewn onto a palm protector. oh Oh OH! Then they could be sold as a pair!!! This would be absolutely genius!!! Owen and Patrick wouldn’t get so many splinters, genius I’m telling you;
PURE GENIUS!!
Really love you guys! Wish I was about thirty years younger, I would sooo be there with you!
"We put wood in boat!" - Tally Ho T-Shirt. 24:09
Idk about y'all, I'd buy it.
Great name for a boat "WOOD-IN-BOAT"
"We could do a whole episode of just us talking".
I'd watch that.
Maybe a tally ho live stream 👀
I wouldn't.
Maybe a podcast
Yes Please!
I thought I just watched that?
Leo, on our 35' sailboat, the "Klaskish," I'd have to say the single best improvement was the addition of a custom-welded woodstove. We also have a double bus heater plumbed into the engine, for when it's running, so it is impossible to be cold on our boat. The woodstove not only heats every part of the boat, but also generates air circulation by sucking air out of the bilges, -and for extreme cold, we've plumbed in an exterior vent which draws air from outside. We don't pack a whole lot of firewood for the cruising and work we do with our boat around here on the BC Central Coast , usually 4-5 days worth at a time, because excellent quality ready-to-burn firewood is ubiquitously availalble everywhere and it's fun to gather any time we're ashore. The stove can easily get the boat very hot inside, but ventilating the boat is a breeze by simply opening the forward hatch and the companionway, and swoosh out any excess heat immediately. In this way there's plenty of control to regulate the heat. Around here, we find that a lot of heat is essential for the total comfort of the boat. A diesel heater might be "convenient," but it will cost you at least $10 a day and climbing as the cost of fuel inexorably increases. And, although your "mock-up" doesn't go into whatever deck shelter (dodger etc) that you plan to install, my recommendation is go as big, dry and sheltered as possible! I got rid of all the canvas on our dodger, and used the SS tubing to bolt on a simple wood framework upon which I mounted polycarbonate sheeting. It's totally comfortable and I can see all my sails right through the roof! Please come tie up at our dock near Bella Bella BC once you start your voyage!! Cheers, Ingmar and Zephyr (age 10 and who always eagerly awaits the next Tally Ho video!)
If he ever plans to sail in the lower latitudes, having an air-conditioner for the boat would be very nice to have... People in the UK often do not have air-conditioners in their houses because the weather is fairly cool there even in the summer... That's most definitely NOT the case here along the Gulf Coast...
My partner and I started learning to sail this weekend. I have to say your channel has been an influence.
Starting small on a Laser 2000
It would be nice to see some of old Tally Ho's timbers and joinery incorporated in the new interior for history's sake!
This video was most excellent. Thank Lir for the hypersensitive neighbor, because the videos have expanded into the rich and briney world of the Port Townsend boat yard. And the narrative ... Talley Ho is reified before our eyes! The crew sails! Leo conjures up a sea-chart weighted down with a brass sextant!
"Save some hot melt glue for the keel!" Hysterical! You put us right inside your head, Leo, with the mock up. Excellent. Please get rid of those piles of sawdust in the hull. Go Stromboli!
There is so much heart in this project. It's a rare and beautiful thing to see so many kind and generous people dedicated to one endeavor.
Leo is a wicked good soul, I love this channel
What a whopper of a video, big effort lol. Ty.
Very much interested in learning about the plumbing systems - freshwater storage, 'head' pressure, and raw sewage dump with regards to water levels? Thanks! Love this channel and learning about shipbuilding craftspersonship!
Looking great inside, it’s going to be realy cosy! I would maybe consider raising the floor height in the couch area so the back rest can be pushed further back towards the hull, you dont need the head room there so much.,You could then even have pantry drawers under the raised floor
Yes, you put my thoughts into words. Plus long term food storage in that space.
Great idea, that's why I suggest 3D modelling
@@luukdeboer1974 I like that suggestion. Could probably model it in Sketchup.
Seeing all of your work as a completed hull takes my breath away. The mock-up is incredible. You’re the coolest guy in the planet
Ohh but you have never met ME 😉
If you make the backrest of the saloon bench folding up you get one more sleeping place. One can sleep on the original seat and the other one above on the backrest. The sleeping place underneath is quite comfortable because it can be wider when the backrest is in his upper position. Lots of old racing yachts used that solution. I hope this idea helps and Leo has enough time to read it.
Hope he finds this also. What a wonderful contribution.
While I am eagerly looking forward to the completion of Tally Ho I find myself savoring each step of the build. This is such a satisfying project to watch.
I love this mock up, but I thought since you wouldn't be standing up while you were at the dining table, you could take advantage of the wide hips by raising the floor under the table about 16". It would give you so much more room. Plus you could add pantry right behind the galley in the raised floor. STROMBOLI!! 🤘😎
Crossed my mind as well. What is going to happen with all that space otherwise?
LOVE the layout, headroom is really impressive.
Tally ho= best part of Monday mornings (Australian time)
I love jens place, it’s been a couple years since I’ve been in that town but she was always such a sweetheart! Even compared to how nice everyone in town is she’s next level, oh and the food is great too!
My husband and I are addicted to the show. We started at the beginning and we enjoy it so much!! Tempted to seek ahead, but we are faithful sticking to each episode.
I have watched every episode. I like it. Poncho is not lonely away from you guys.
Hey Leo, maybe in the salon area the 'L' shaped seating could be lifted up by one step allowing it to be pushed further back/out against the hull giving a little more usable width around the table and kitchen area. She is looking great and congrats on getting this far.
I was thinking this as well. you don't need as much head room while seated and stepping it up will allow for more storage under it and give more space in general. Having the table drop down flat with the seating would also provide another sleeping area if needed.
Good idea Michael. And karmakaze makes the point about all the extra stowage under .
Yup, my thoughts exactly. Doing this may then give you the space to have the bench seat running down the centerline that you mentioned, and therefore give something solid to lean against whilst working in the galley. Also agree with pushing the galley as far outboard as possible as mentioned by someone earlier.
Yea, it was a bit low, though there's also something to be said for putting storage in that 'empty space'. Personally, I wouldn't want my benches that low in general, and raising them moves the seat rather naturally (and of course you will have storage in/under the seat).
I appreciate the 40 minutes but damn it went by fast! I really enjoy this project, thanks Leo.
I really enjoyed the tour of the cabin mock-up. It's feeling more and more real with each episode.
Don’t worry about needing back support for using the galley at sea as you can simply use a back strap that clips on. I sailed my own 44 footer with a long galley 26,000 miles with this solution and it worked perfectly
This channel is not only technically brilliant, I really enjoy the human side of everybody working on the project and providing services
It makes me happy when Leo says "partner". I really love when people use it and it makes him relatable for me
Me, too.
Among the long list of astounding accomplishments on this project, Leo, I'm blown away by your ability to walk through a cramped space with a video camera and demonstrate very clearly the layout of the space. Building aside, this video alone is an impressive feat. The layout is very clear to understand, and features far more living space than I had thought possible. Keep up the awesome work!
This was the best episode in a while! The interior mockup was super cool to see. And the stromboli is just sublime.
I'm impressed how much room there is in the boat. Seems like a nice place to live in!
Head room is also every impressive
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Great layout, you're on top of it and just the tweaking to do by the look. Only suggestion I'd make is making a removable panel in the bulkhead on the port-side of the engine to access that side of the engine from the cabin. You might never need it except for that one time when you really do. Looks like you guys have a lot of fun doing this, it's a joy to watch. Thanks for letting us come along.
+1 on the access panel to the port side of the engine
Watch this episode yesterday. You got me wondering where it all began. So I subscribed and is currently on episode 13 lol.
Every time a new vid pops up the anticipation for her maiden voyage grows and grows
Not long now.
@@GM-qq1wi I'd say Spring 2023?
2ish years? 😁
Its the journey not the destination - we will all miss it when she's in the water
So hype. I can't wait to see how the interior turns out. I've been so excited to see it start.
I'm looking forward to cabinet building where very little is square.
As Leo walked through the mocked up interior I got a little tear in my eye thinking about the Tally Ho underway with people sailing and living aboard, little flashes of double vision where I can see in my minds eye the fully finished, lived in interiors overlaid on the sheets of plywood...
I always wanted a boat but it was this series that convinced me, I just bought my first sailboat (a small boat of 19 feet abandoned that I restore) so thank you very much and good luck for the rest of this adventure ! (excuse my weird english, i'm french)
Not very experienced with ships and boats but an idea for extra birthing space might be to hang hammocks in the saloon. The hooks or rings (depending on design) for attaching the hammocks might blend in nicely when not in use and the hammocks could easily be brought out when more crew is needed onboard. Can’t imagine they would take up a lot of storage space.
When i am watching yours videos I realise that one day i want to work for some time in place like this! Thanks!
Leo, any thoughts of putting a flip down section to the Pilot's birth giving you a much larger bunk, width wise, since you won't need to access the engine room all that often? It could flip out of the way when not in use and the mattress or what ever is used for cushion could be in sections like an RV hide away bed.
the same thought popped into my head, i have 0 sailing experience (although i'm studying to be an architect) and a sort-of futon thing that could give a wider bed on the pilot's cabin popped into my head right before i became too amazed at the sheer brilliance and all the architectural details to really think of any criticism
This is how a lot of beds are made in UK narrowboats. That way it doesn't block anything and is easy to set up/take down.
@@Offutticus That makes sense considering how those boats have very limited interior space.
@@Lordlinke I like the idea of "bed weather"!
As a non-sailor, the name of the "pilot's birth" puzzles me. Is it actually for a pilot? I didn't even realise that small boats needed pilots, but, if they do, surely they're only on the boat for a few hours, not overnight? Presumably, this is just a historical name that doesn't actually mean what it says?
I now have a whole new perspective on Tally Ho. The interior is indeed far more roomy than I had imagined. Thank you for this very timely and exciting episode. Cheers
I think the nav station is a great Add.. space for you chronometer’s and sextant chart storage and table..good spot for radio’s ext…plus of course film edit… can’t wait to see it come together.. I learned traditional navigation in the U.S. Navy as a QM..So I enjoy the idea of getting around the world by sun and stars..maybe gps as a backup..And maybe a weather station…
Exciting times watching your plans come together..cheers
@John C plus it’s a traditional method of navigating that was used when Tally Ho was originally built and sailed.And if you’re good at it it’s as accurate as you’ll need.
@John C I’ve used LORAN around the Pacific without fail. Also used the NAVSAT .. My ship was one of two ships to test the GPS back in the day…
But there is just a nostalgia to shooting the sun and stars..having a real chart..I’ve always loved it..Dead Reckoning
I wanted to buy a chronometer like the ones I used on the ship…. OMG are they expensive lol…
Digital charts are way more detailed, accurate and updated than paper charts. And cheaper
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true… gps and digital charts are always accurate… and probably cheaper..
But I’m liking the idea of keeping to the traditions of sailing wooden ships using period correct methods..
A good skipper / navigator shouldn’t have any problems.. I would actually want the challenge…Studying winds tides and currents is also important..tides can be found in manuals..
makes me wish I was a kid again…my last pacific tour navigating was 73k nautical miles…and still wanted to see more lol…
Using traditional navigation methods we where never off by more than +/- 2 miles
What a pain! 2 weeks (?) to get another update on this fantastic project! I will continue to binge watch previous episodes (2nd time around) I can only reiterate the many previous comments on the craftsmanship, attention to detail, dedication and outright stubborness displayed by Leo (YACHTSMAN!) and his motley crew. Hooked, subscribed and contributing from afar.Greetings to all involved with special thanks to all Port Townsend and Sequim Locals for their amazing support (I exclude the whinging neighbours who tried to Deep Six the rebuild)
Impressed by the spaciousness of the bathroom. Wish we had that space in our boat.
My only comment has to do with the engine room. I feel you might want to give more access to the far side of the engine. Also, at some point you may need to remove and replace the engine, so it may be prudent to visualize how that can be accomplished once the interior is done. Just a thought.
I agree; perhaps an (very) occasional access panel from the double bunk cabin
For Nina; my mom was a commercial artist back in the last century, learning to be competent in lettering was part of a 2-year college degree (1936 graduate). What brings all this to mind was that her name was "Marian" and she would fashion her letter "M" just like the "m" in Stromboli.
It has been exciting all along, but this is the part of the build where the cruising/racing experience gets designed. One of my lessons in long distance sailing was to make choices that will be kinder to the crew. A comfortable crew gets better rest and, as a result, makes better choices and executes maneuvers with fewer mistakes. I suspect this hull designed so long ago will create a kindly motion compared to more modern performance-oriented shapes, but it is always good to keep crew comfort in mind....even if you are all young.
Layout thoughts:
-rotate head 90 degrees so you face forward sitting on it. Easier to use on either tack.
-add access panel for port side of engine
-table looks narrow for all the plates and dishes needed for seating a larger crew
-galley counter looks deep may need to give some of the to the salon table, consider temporary flip up or flip out extra counter space
-very smart move to mock up the layout!
A lot of work to mock up the interior, but well worth it...Great explanation, thanks.
I have to say, watching Pete turn into quite the presenter has been amazing.
Leo , crew , loving the movie , I hang out for the next episode just like the other 300,000+ souls who have watched this in the last 24 hours !!! .......You got the Positive Vibrations happening Mon! Respect !The whole thing is marvellous . Nice meeting the bods around the PT boatyard too. Here in Oz we're in lockdown for weeks . It's tedious to be sure ! Many of us globally are in the same boat , living in the virtual reality of what you're sharing . ! It's kinda "quantum -groovy" eh ?
Pardon me chucking my oar in ( but hey ) , the main cabin is such a nice big area but you're cutting it in half by devoting one side to each purpose and then having to think about a back support thus further dividing it . This reduces the usable feet space though it does give nice props and purchases in a seaway . By having a U-shaped galley you could open up the salon in one main area -just to give that kinda ambient spacious feeling with seating on both sides , a strategically placed wood/coal heater to keep it real , and a folding table that would still allow plenty to hang on to - maybe the odd grab rail overhead in the middle of the widest space . Thing is , everywhere else in the boat is tight . You want an area where you could dance at least a couple of steps . Then your "feet-consciousness can relax" . You'll appreciate it when you get older .
Just my 2 bobs worth Cap'n . (I dips me lid :)
The boat is a work of art , and it's quite a decent size boat and the salon is the centre - the heart , the warm place .
Hey here's a thought : Rocket stove ! Design and build your own , you can weld and cut steel . Rocket-stoves are the most economical in fuel and burn up to 96% of the potential energy reducing the exhaust pollutive gaseous emissions to tiny amount + some water . you burn stick size pieces like the stuff that blows down out of trees in a wind , coal , pellets etc. I've built a few out of various materials without welding , and they seriously work. The principle of the "sideways burn" is age-old knowledge for getting kilns up to firing temps .
You can find various design principles online . It's possible to make a small iron rocket stove that puts out a lot of heat . The flueing radiates a significant part of the heat so you want a good heat reflector behind it . Even just out of interest it's worth looking at the natural principles of these stoves . Pretty amazing simple tech . They've save many third world shanty districts from respiratory diseases caused by a million smoky cooking fires .
Cheers , and thanks .
I second the suggestion to look at putting in a rocket stove. For my own upcoming bluewater cruiser build, I've had the idea of a rocket stove sitting on the back-burner (pun intended) for a long time now.
@@Garryck-1 Hi JAFO , have you settled on a good design for a rocket stove ? I'd be interested to hear what you're thinking .
@@onenessbe9991 - Sadly, no, I haven't. Putting a rocket stove aboard a sailboat does present some interesting challenges. Especially if you want to use it for more than just heating.
@@Garryck-1 True . A large proportion of the heat comes off the flue . In earth houses they sometimes box in the exhaust piping and fill it with masonry to form a "heat battery " . You could maybe turn a bulkhead into a heat battery if you could spare the space somehow ? Otherwise just a rocket stove and flue could suffice . I'm thinking of a horizontal steel pipe ( old steam pipe) - maybe 10in diameter with 4 in vertical pipe inserts either end for inlet and exhaust . A 10 inch reburn chamber over the exhaust chimney with another exhaust outlet leading to the flue/chimney exiting the salon roof . 4 re-bar legs . A maintenance door underneath to clean out ash . It would require some steel cutting and welding /design skills .
I find the subject fascinating .
@@onenessbe9991 - The biggest problem with a 'heat battery' aboard a sailboat, is the weight. As for a plain rocket stove, I'd love to one day work with a RS designer to see what could be done. Unfortunately, there are very few people experimenting with them here in Australia. And the ones I'm aware of, are mostly still trying to figure this stuff out themselves. They still don't have any designs they seem really satisfied with.
You could install a rail on the front of the galley side, use as a handrail, or be able to hook onto it in choppy weather
It used to be a thing that the front edge of bar tops had a rail that tipsy people could wrap their belt around to stop them falling :D
Great idea. Bar should go full length without intermediate brackets. Maybe that's why the bar is called a bar?
Not a cliche to say teamwork makes the dreamwork Leo, and you exemplify the difference between a mere manager and a true leader.
I remember the day when you first boarded the old Tally Ho in the sorry state she was in and decided to give her refurb a go.
Right then, I realised you have bigger balls than most.
The endgame is in sight now, an exit strategy from a "building" mindset to a "sailing "mindset is required and I`m certain you can see it.
von Clausewitz said two hundred years ago, amateurs think about tactics, professionals consider logistics, ( I`m paraphrasing), but he`d be well-impressed with your efforts mate !
As am I !
First time I hear that you Will be sailing this work of art around the world, I am excited for you!
Great layout. For the port side engine access, maybe a hatch opening in the double berth leading to a hatch opening on the wall to allow access to that side of the engine?
as Leo said most accessories are on the accessible side.if you want to remove a panel to look at the hole caused by a connecting rod ? fuel oil and air filter minor .injectors valves a concern . hole in the block it has to come out anyway. we had banks of two 6-71 detroit diesels the exhaust sides of the engines weren't really accessible. there were inspection plates between the engines but if you had to look the engine probably needed to be replaced.
I've never realized how large the interior space of Tally Ho is until it was all separated with walls!
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The lettering for “Stromboli” looks great!
Having lived on a boat for a long time I would say do not skimp on comfort and space..
invest in appliances that are small but might cost more because that one inch could be the difference between a nuisance and something liveable
Create a nice cabin for yourself, you seem more crew orientated which is nice but don't let that take away from the fact that this will be your home aswell.
Work with a lot of flexible solutions like flip up bunks slide out tables etc etc. Most likely you end up leaving them in one position but atleast you have options.
Shower space has always been an issue for me on board, make sure you have a nice shower.
Diesel central heating is the best thing you can get, stoves inside the cabin always annoyed me to death and central heaters can be used to heat certain spaces really efficient
I've watched every video from the beginning, and I was surprised by how much this felt like the beginning of a new chapter. I had to watch it twice! It feels like it went from "making an object" to "planning the adventure" - Amazing & so fun! I know you could see it all along, but I guess it took bulkheads for me to truly see it lol. I can see it!
Just like to say that I think Pete sounds like a great guy, love his dry sense of humour and his ship building knowledge. Deep respect.
The mockup is brilliant, and it finally gives me a sense of what the boat will be like when finished. I don't think I ever got a proper sense of scale from previous videos, and this really helps.
We as viewers are hooked construction, finition and after voyage
I like the way you lettered Stromboli, Nina, marking straight lines but free handing the curves. Very cool, you should be busy lettering boats in no time! Nice layout.