None of these 92-96 trucks came carbed right? I used to want to throw one on mine and get rid of all the whacky ecu crap getting in the way of performance.
I got a 95 150 4x4 5.0 and I love OBS trucks. Mine has pretty much everything replaced and runs amazing. I prefer the 5.0 when it comes to offloading because it’s a higher revving motor than a 5.8.
Mike Point thank you sir I was just tired of all the perfect builds you see on RUclips you don’t have to have it perfect for it to run like a scalded ape
Easiest way to do a cam swap on these motors is to do a efi to carburetor swap that way you don't habe to worry about tuning it you can just adjust the carb and the timing yourself
kyle engelhardt it was a 302 I did a 351 w swap that came out of a boat I have no idea what heads it has I do know it is bored .30 over also it has magnaflow muffoers
@@iraqifoodcart8447 heck. My father NEVER maintained it just repaired whatever minor thing went wrong. He never even changed the oil. Just added a quart here md there as it mightve burnt oil. Lol the truck was 30 years old at that point and he bought it when it was like 28 years old. That Windsor 351 is the MOST RELIABLE ENGINE I EVER ENCOUNTERED ! Oh and my teenage self would drag race that 1985 F250 daily after work. After the truck worked also... hauling and towing and plain ole heavy ass loada.. hah ima buy a 85 F250 fuck it...
Hey man, would you happen to know the cam specs? Really nice soundin truck brother🤟🏽 I’d like to throw that exact cam in my 351w I’m putting it in my 84 mustang. Is it the Lunati Barebones cam? Also what heads are you runnin?
@@steffinmezger5301 I have run this csm for years. It's crazy mild for a 351w but makes a great rv cam for a heavy ass truck cause the power is down low AND pulls like a freight train in the mid range. Love my .472/.496 lunati
@@joumasepoes88 on a stock 351? like with stock E7 and intake? I'm using this cam in a 306 build for my econoline.. still EFI ( which makes better low end than carb ) . But I have a lot going on, my intake is ported to the max to where I had to epoxy breakthrough at the dog legs.. opened the pinch about 150 thousandths ive seen these pick up 100 cfm on the front runners lol, dual 61mm TB, My E7s are ported.. I did a really meticulous job following the masters ( like David Vizard ) have scavenge plateaus cut into the exhaust chamber, chamber is scalloped to help swirl, short side radius is opened like a GT40 etc. Probably opened up 50 CFM on the intake even on stock valve size. Then I have lighter SS valves that are undercut / backcut, scorpion roller rockers, changed the balance from 50oz to 28oz, forged crank, forged explorer rods, narrower con rod bearings, aluminum girdle with windage tray and crank scraper, BBK underdrives, Internally ceramic coated some SS shorty headers ( had long tubes but wouldnt fit in the dog house i dont think but shorty are better for low end ) .MSD pro billet, MSD TFI.. E3 plugs and I had a custom chip burned to the build for speed density.. 24 lb/hr injectors / 190 lph external pump. My AOD is built almost to the max. hardened input, spiral lock on front hub, all new seals, Raybestos stage 1 reds, Alto red eagle and kolene steels in overdrive, kevlar bands, sonnax super hold servo, transgo shift kit, i expanded the WOT RPM shift valve to 5600, have a TCI Streetfighter converter ( about 3000 stall ) with anti balloon plate ( a lot of this was for when I was going to slap a powerdyne on it too ) and a 2 quart larger oil pan . then a b and m super cooler, rebuilt the 8.8 .. has 3.73 Ford ring and pinion, Yukon posi, nitro chromoly axles, I trussed the top of the axle also a diff cover girdle with added capacity.. have lakewood slapper bars but I may get the lower profile ones .. truck also now has 1 1/8" sway bars front and rear. and it AAAALLL started on a day I bought a Lunati Voodoo ( before I realized I had the wrong firing order and had to go barebones but stepped up to the 280/290. So I hope it does better than feeling just like an RV cam!!! LOL esp with that 3/4 cam lift and and duration. in software I've gotten some numbers above typical ford letter cams and other popular choices... It seemed like a perfect ceiling for this build and getting to say its still under 500 thousandths.. I'm estimating it will turn like high 300s in hp who knows.. if I ported some GT40s and it was a roller engine definitely over 400.. my objective is hitting 400 ft lbs though. The EFI long runners for the truck can make pretty awesome torque values.. and im sure by porting ( which now is on par or above with like a trickflow street heat ) has raised the RPM range a little bit... but anyway. This cams power range being to 5500 is perfect for the dual throttle body intake though the high duration it probably wants to go past 6k. But basically my goal was to have a conversion van that will scoot with at least a stock Raptor. My van with its high top fiberglass roof only weighs like 4800 .. so itll be like a short cab hemi ram but obviously the gears and converter make a big difference. HOPEFULLY. lol
@@tonypepperoni229 i dear jesus dude. You spent enough time on those heads I hope they do what you want. I found no iron head worth the time nor effort since the most ported E7 fliws the same as the crappiest aluminium casting but at the end of the day it's really whatever blows your skirt up. I actually am running a hogged out set of D0OE 351w heads on a 306 now with the bare bones in it. Runs strong. Ok now to the original question. Rv cam? In a 351w, yes. In a 302 it's a performance grind but more of a muscle car grind at 214°/224° @.050. Power is still between 1500-5000 but thats where you want it for anything driven on the street and Yes stock E7 heads on the 351w no not the original intake it was 4bbl swapped as the cam is NOT suited for speed density due to lobe separation angle. Ivrecomm3nd an anderson or Howard's custom grind cam. They are cheaper than you think and will maximize your potentialAlso you will not need such huge injectors those are way big bro. Remember. Power is needed where you do 90% of your driving. And power is made in the heads. Also. Most importantly there is a real formula for head flow to discover hp that heads will make that is accurate to 5hp + - and its NOT CFM X's 2.
@@epicminecraftgamer1 I also swapped out my electronically controlled transmission for a mechanical c4 trans. I had to get a custom cut drive shaft aswell and for the motor all your need is a mechanical fuel pump, intake manifold for a carb, hei distributor
@@epicminecraftgamer1 you'll have to get a cam with a fuel pump esentric on it to run a mechanical pump on the block the cheaper way would be to bypass the stock fuel pump and get 2 small electric fuel pumps ... put one in the frame rail by the tank and put the other one in the engine bay. You can get the red pump by holley they are made for carb applications I ran this setup before aswell
Besides the transmission swap from a computer shifted trans to a mechanical shifted to make it carbureted I added a mechanic fuel pump that runs on the eccentric on the cam or you can run on one of the Holley red pumps they work good because they only have about 7psi you cannot use the stop efi pump it has to be bypassed I would still keep the sending unit in the tank though so you can see how much fuel you have also I added a hei all in one distributor for less wiring and headache it only requires one switch 12 source to run the dizzy and last you will need a intake manifold made for a carb and also a carburetor atleast a 2 barrel preferably a 4 barrel for power
@Michael Birchfield I did some research and yeah I have the Windsor lol the motor was swapped out for a 351 before I bought it idk what was in there before
funny thing is about "efi sucks" hash tag is this would make like 20 more ft lbs down low if it were still EFI.. where a truck needs it. even more with the dual TB long runner intake on top of an EFI system. but just my thoughts. probably ends up making some more at 5000+ though.
A well tuned carb setup makes very close HP to an EFI setup....The difference is the cost. An EFI set-up will cost 3 or 4X's a carb set up as you have to change so many things to run it. I think it's a generation thing, old school guys love the carb setups generally. I see there's advantages to both systems, depends how you look at it and what your after I guess.
Why is it every ford I ever own had a bad automatic choke during cold start ....strange huh ? It like ford actually pattent this flawless DESIGN ? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
usually operator error. most people have no clue how to start a carb with auto choke. one slow depress of pedal, get foot away from pedal, turn key, let the fast idle warm the engine up for awhile, then kick it off the fast idle cam.
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i like how you have the EFI sticker right on the front but its carbureted lol
iTreyyHD yessir I thought it would throw people off a bit lol
@@steffinmezger5301 atta boy
None of these 92-96 trucks came carbed right? I used to want to throw one on mine and get rid of all the whacky ecu crap getting in the way of performance.
@@grayghost832 They were all EFI as far as I know. They are great motors if you leave them all stock and do proper maintenance
I got a 95 150 4x4 5.0 and I love OBS trucks. Mine has pretty much everything replaced and runs amazing. I prefer the 5.0 when it comes to offloading because it’s a higher revving motor than a 5.8.
Nice lil sleeper ya got there, dig it.
The only thing more badass than the truck are the flip flops and socks.
Hell ya bro
Fück i love low idle sounds!
Thank you
I just ha e to say turn to the LORD and have all
I miss my dad's f150 so damn much
They are solid trucks
Dang man!That thing sounds sweet
Thanks bro
I just ha e to say turn to the LORD and have all
Nice Brother
Thanks man
That thing sounds so good🤤 my sister has a 92 with the 5.8.
Thank you
Nice!
Thanks brother
Did this truck come fuel injected?
Yes sir
I love obs’s
Me too
What size exhaust are you running? I have a 1989 Ford E250 with a dual 2.5" into single 3" exhaust via a 2.5-into-3" flowmaster Y collector.
Iraqi Food Cart long tube headers no cats true dual with magnaflow mufflers
She’s a little rough but just got the truck running not to long ago after it was sitting for 10 years+ she still has a long way to go
I hope you pour some marvel mystery oil in the cylinder and soak it for at LEAST a week before starting it ?
No need for that it’s built ford tough
There's that 10mm you've been looking for
Why did you put all them gushes in there for??? Because you have a cam and exhaust???? What was wrong with the stock guages?
The only one that still worked was the speedo all the others didn't work after I did the motor swap
Dude the JVC tape deck is 🔥
Mike Point thank you sir I was just tired of all the perfect builds you see on RUclips you don’t have to have it perfect for it to run like a scalded ape
Steffin Mezger
No kidding , I hear you on that . Your motor sure sound great through the exhaust . Stay safe cheers .
That's awesome
Dallas Johnson thank you
what do you have to do a cam swap? new ecm or anything like that? you'd obv need lifters and stuff like that but i meant anything besides that?
Easiest way to do a cam swap on these motors is to do a efi to carburetor swap that way you don't habe to worry about tuning it you can just adjust the carb and the timing yourself
@@steffinmezger5301 carb swap shouldn’t be too hard, I need to do more research
@@skyfoxofchaos9517 you need a lower intake manifold for a carb ....a HEI distributor .... and s low pressure fuel pump
@skyfoxofchaos9517 im a redneck highschool dropout if i can do it anyone can
@@steffinmezger5301 Ah. I’m neither but i do work in a shop so i might be able too.
Is your engine stock otherwise aside from the cam? What mufflers are you running?
kyle engelhardt it was a 302 I did a 351 w swap that came out of a boat I have no idea what heads it has I do know it is bored .30 over also it has magnaflow muffoers
@@steffinmezger5301 any idea what cam is in it?
kyle engelhardt I put the lunati bare bones cam in it
@@steffinmezger5301 have you got a part number and a grind? It sounds fantastic. I wanna file it away for when I get bored and decide to do a cam swap
kyle engelhardt Advertised Duration (Int/Exh): 280/290 ;Duration @ .050 (Int/Exh): 214/224 ;Gross Valve Lift (Int/Exh): .472/.496 ;LSA/ICL: 112/107 ;Valve Lash (Int/Exh): Hyd/Hyd ;RPM Range: 1500-5500
Mostly stock = sexiest rig
Thank you sir... i learned that most of the time in life less is more
Is the truck still mint three years from then?
@@nocatschrysler yes sir
How did you make it shift since you we.t carb?
I installed c4 trans that is controlled by vacuum not a computer
@@steffinmezger5301 thanks for the reply 👍
Those windsors were tough! Yeah the transmission would blow. But never the engine
Yes sir they are great ...definitely a under rated engine
Can confirm. 89 E250 with the 351w.
Love this engine they'll run forever if you take care of them.
@@iraqifoodcart8447 heck. My father NEVER maintained it just repaired whatever minor thing went wrong. He never even changed the oil. Just added a quart here md there as it mightve burnt oil.
Lol the truck was 30 years old at that point and he bought it when it was like 28 years old. That Windsor 351 is the MOST RELIABLE ENGINE I EVER ENCOUNTERED ! Oh and my teenage self would drag race that 1985 F250 daily after work. After the truck worked also... hauling and towing and plain ole heavy ass loada.. hah ima buy a 85 F250 fuck it...
That C6 trans can hold up behind 800hp Pyro. Get your facts straight before you open that hole in your face
I’m 15 and I’ve got a 85 super cab f150 with the 351w. I love it. Only problem is the dumb liberal we have in office running up the gas prices.
Hey man, would you happen to know the cam specs? Really nice soundin truck brother🤟🏽 I’d like to throw that exact cam in my 351w I’m putting it in my 84 mustang. Is it the Lunati Barebones cam? Also what heads are you runnin?
280 290 472 496 lunati bare bones …. Unknown iron marine heads
Probably similar to e7 heads
@@steffinmezger5301 I have run this csm for years. It's crazy mild for a 351w but makes a great rv cam for a heavy ass truck cause the power is down low AND pulls like a freight train in the mid range. Love my .472/.496 lunati
@@joumasepoes88 on a stock 351? like with stock E7 and intake? I'm using this cam in a 306 build for my econoline.. still EFI ( which makes better low end than carb ) . But I have a lot going on, my intake is ported to the max to where I had to epoxy breakthrough at the dog legs.. opened the pinch about 150 thousandths ive seen these pick up 100 cfm on the front runners lol, dual 61mm TB, My E7s are ported.. I did a really meticulous job following the masters ( like David Vizard ) have scavenge plateaus cut into the exhaust chamber, chamber is scalloped to help swirl, short side radius is opened like a GT40 etc. Probably opened up 50 CFM on the intake even on stock valve size. Then I have lighter SS valves that are undercut / backcut, scorpion roller rockers, changed the balance from 50oz to 28oz, forged crank, forged explorer rods, narrower con rod bearings, aluminum girdle with windage tray and crank scraper, BBK underdrives, Internally ceramic coated some SS shorty headers ( had long tubes but wouldnt fit in the dog house i dont think but shorty are better for low end ) .MSD pro billet, MSD TFI.. E3 plugs and I had a custom chip burned to the build for speed density.. 24 lb/hr injectors / 190 lph external pump. My AOD is built almost to the max. hardened input, spiral lock on front hub, all new seals, Raybestos stage 1 reds, Alto red eagle and kolene steels in overdrive, kevlar bands, sonnax super hold servo, transgo shift kit, i expanded the WOT RPM shift valve to 5600, have a TCI Streetfighter converter ( about 3000 stall ) with anti balloon plate ( a lot of this was for when I was going to slap a powerdyne on it too ) and a 2 quart larger oil pan . then a b and m super cooler, rebuilt the 8.8 .. has 3.73 Ford ring and pinion, Yukon posi, nitro chromoly axles, I trussed the top of the axle also a diff cover girdle with added capacity.. have lakewood slapper bars but I may get the lower profile ones .. truck also now has 1 1/8" sway bars front and rear. and it AAAALLL started on a day I bought a Lunati Voodoo ( before I realized I had the wrong firing order and had to go barebones but stepped up to the 280/290. So I hope it does better than feeling just like an RV cam!!! LOL esp with that 3/4 cam lift and and duration. in software I've gotten some numbers above typical ford letter cams and other popular choices... It seemed like a perfect ceiling for this build and getting to say its still under 500 thousandths.. I'm estimating it will turn like high 300s in hp who knows.. if I ported some GT40s and it was a roller engine definitely over 400.. my objective is hitting 400 ft lbs though. The EFI long runners for the truck can make pretty awesome torque values.. and im sure by porting ( which now is on par or above with like a trickflow street heat ) has raised the RPM range a little bit... but anyway. This cams power range being to 5500 is perfect for the dual throttle body intake though the high duration it probably wants to go past 6k. But basically my goal was to have a conversion van that will scoot with at least a stock Raptor. My van with its high top fiberglass roof only weighs like 4800 .. so itll be like a short cab hemi ram but obviously the gears and converter make a big difference. HOPEFULLY. lol
@@tonypepperoni229 i dear jesus dude. You spent enough time on those heads I hope they do what you want. I found no iron head worth the time nor effort since the most ported E7 fliws the same as the crappiest aluminium casting but at the end of the day it's really whatever blows your skirt up. I actually am running a hogged out set of D0OE 351w heads on a 306 now with the bare bones in it. Runs strong. Ok now to the original question. Rv cam? In a 351w, yes. In a 302 it's a performance grind but more of a muscle car grind at 214°/224° @.050. Power is still between 1500-5000 but thats where you want it for anything driven on the street and Yes stock E7 heads on the 351w no not the original intake it was 4bbl swapped as the cam is NOT suited for speed density due to lobe separation angle. Ivrecomm3nd an anderson or Howard's custom grind cam. They are cheaper than you think and will maximize your potentialAlso you will not need such huge injectors those are way big bro. Remember. Power is needed where you do 90% of your driving. And power is made in the heads. Also. Most importantly there is a real formula for head flow to discover hp that heads will make that is accurate to 5hp + - and its NOT CFM X's 2.
did you convery the original engine to carb or did you get a new block?
Original motor was a fuel injected 5.0 now it had a carbureted 5.8
@@steffinmezger5301 i have a 92 with the E4OD and 5.0 and im not sure what i need to do for the swap, i know the trans is computer controlled
@@epicminecraftgamer1 I also swapped out my electronically controlled transmission for a mechanical c4 trans. I had to get a custom cut drive shaft aswell and for the motor all your need is a mechanical fuel pump, intake manifold for a carb, hei distributor
@@steffinmezger5301 do the efi motor have a place on the block for a mechanical fuel pump or would i need a electric one meant for carbs?
@@epicminecraftgamer1 you'll have to get a cam with a fuel pump esentric on it to run a mechanical pump on the block the cheaper way would be to bypass the stock fuel pump and get 2 small electric fuel pumps ... put one in the frame rail by the tank and put the other one in the engine bay. You can get the red pump by holley they are made for carb applications I ran this setup before aswell
hey man would you happen to know where those headlights are from? they look sick!
Just some basic cheap headlights I found on Amazon unfortunately I do not have a link
What kinda cam are you running?
Lunati bare bones cam
@@steffinmezger5301 - Same as a basic Summit or Jegs cam...
@@BuzzLOLOL pretty much nothing special
@@steffinmezger5301 - Just more money...
What cam is that
Lunati bare bones
How did you make the trans shift with it being carbureted?
Dustin Ivy it is a 3 speed c4 trans out of a earlier f150 it runs off vacuum it doesn’t need a computer
I had to get a custom cut driveshaft as well because the transmission I had in it before was longer
Besides the transmission swap from a computer shifted trans to a mechanical shifted to make it carbureted I added a mechanic fuel pump that runs on the eccentric on the cam or you can run on one of the Holley red pumps they work good because they only have about 7psi you cannot use the stop efi pump it has to be bypassed I would still keep the sending unit in the tank though so you can see how much fuel you have also I added a hei all in one distributor for less wiring and headache it only requires one switch 12 source to run the dizzy and last you will need a intake manifold made for a carb and also a carburetor atleast a 2 barrel preferably a 4 barrel for power
@@steffinmezger5301 would you by chance know the year truck that transmission came out of
@@drivetrainwilly6177 I believe it was a 84 f150 if I remember correctly
Badass I have a 1990 f150 with a 351 in it I can't tell if it's Windsor or Cleveland
Look up windsor vs Cleveland on Google images the water pump and valve covers look different
@Michael Birchfield I did some research and yeah I have the Windsor lol the motor was swapped out for a 351 before I bought it idk what was in there before
@@KickapooNinja i think that gen of f150s had the same engines as the gen after so 300 in line six 302 windsor v8 and 351 windsor v8
That air cleaner is badass
I’m about to get a longer stud too so I can stack 2 filters I already measured for hood clearances .... wont add any power but it will look cool lol
I dig the flip flops
Baller life
funny thing is about "efi sucks" hash tag is this would make like 20 more ft lbs down low if it were still EFI.. where a truck needs it. even more with the dual TB long runner intake on top of an EFI system. but just my thoughts. probably ends up making some more at 5000+ though.
Less efficient but more fun
A well tuned carb setup makes very close HP to an EFI setup....The difference is the cost. An EFI set-up will cost 3 or 4X's a carb set up as you have to change so many things to run it. I think it's a generation thing, old school guys love the carb setups generally. I see there's advantages to both systems, depends how you look at it and what your after I guess.
What kind of cam u got?
Nick Lugo luntati
What fuel pump you running?
Mechanical pump that runs off the cam eccentric
Love it what kinda mpgs do you get out of it
I would say maybe 10 mpg in town and 14 on the highway
Just guessing
What cam/specs did you use?
280 290 472 496
@@steffinmezger5301 you have the part number
@@Slowrx2 not at the moment
straight up MUSIC...
Yes sir
What’s your set up?
Tri-y headers , lunati flat tappet cam , edelbrock 650 carb , edelbrock performer intake , c4 trans
What’s the exhaust setup
Tri-y headers , true duals , gutted eBay cats , magnaflow mufflers dumped
I don’t think your alternator is charging you’re battery from what your gauge said
Shes fixed mow
You can run the belt a little different to get rid of the squeak
She’s gone now
Why is it every ford I ever own had a bad automatic choke during cold start ....strange huh ? It like ford actually pattent this flawless DESIGN ? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
It has a aftermarket edelbrock carb with a manual choke and it was not hooked up at the moment
usually operator error. most people have no clue how to start a carb with auto choke. one slow depress of pedal, get foot away from pedal, turn key, let the fast idle warm the engine up for awhile, then kick it off the fast idle cam.
What headers?
Tri-y headers on ebay they are cheap
@@steffinmezger5301 direct bolt up to the 351w? Could you send me a link?
@@huntersfishingadventures6221 yes sir
www.ebay.com/itm/1964-1970-Ford-Mustang-Stainless-Steel-Tri-Y-Exhaust-Headers-SB-289-302-351w/192326632469?hash=item2cc78f8415:g:Wn0AAOSwpuBZ170x
Can you run this on a 92 with the efi?
Matthew Johnson this is a flat rapper cam the efi motors have roller cams so no you cannot run this setup on a efi motor
I’m having a real hard time trying to find a cam for my truck😭
Matthew Johnson get a e303 cam you can keep your stock lifters and springs
So it’s just put in in there and your good?
Matthew Johnson since you are running efi you will probably need a tune
Race truck?
More like a cruiser only has about 350 hp
I’m in the process of swapping a carbed 351 Windsor into a 2006 mustang
@@steffinmezger5301 is it fuel injected
Lol efi
Socks and flip flops tho…………
Why a fuel cell
gentile joshsaved easier access and it looks cool
If its cammed it's not efi now lol
I don’t know why your taking about it’s clearly a EFI 5.3 ls swap
Yo
oldgamer 21 Yo bro