I'm genuinely torn between which aspect of Jon I like better. When Jon's funny, he's really funny. But logical, trained classicist Jon is just as wonderful to watch. This vid is absolute top-shelf MATN and I loved every second of it.
Jon please make this a series. It's a beautiful game, but I feel like it isn't for everyone. Would love to see where this game's story is going but it just isn't a game for me. I'm not as enthusiastic about language as you are, I'd lose interest if I played this myself, but watching you play this is very enjoyable for me, please finish the game I'm sure it'll only be like one or two more videos until you've pieced together the language and at that point the story has to come to an end too
@@tomm5663 But we will laugh at the way he pronounced Cyclones, completely forgetting that it is an actual word and then creating a theory to support the way he pronounced it xD. Reminds me of when he played My Summer Car and thought alternators are what alternate the firing of pistons......he was *SO* sure he was right lol
I don't think he will, he tends to do complete playthroughs of games with high replay value. This game seems pretty linear so once you know the story and what the words are it removes any reason for the viewers to go out and buy it
I need a series of this. It is too wonderful, and too beautiful, to be a one off. Hell, I'll watch a day long livestream, if that's what it takes to see this game through to the end.
While you have catastrophic perception, I'm always delighted to see how Jon's logic works in stuff like this! So fascinating and unique. Really great. Not sure I'd play it myself, but watching Jon worth through this is really fun!
2 years late however, Jon isn’t the type to search every crevice of every single scene/map to make sure he’s found all of the scripture. Which may be required to have a good understanding of the early game before multiple plot lines start to appear and you get thrown so much new words. He’s not much a notetaker I would think too, so if he makes any footnotes on his memory about a certain symbol he’d likely forget it soon. Also the game seems to require the patience in the offchance you need to completely rework your entire collection, or if not the audience to this game will enjoy reading all the lore and from the start you could already read so much history and I don’t know if Jon does that.
I think Lara Croft might be a bad archeologist because she's a raider, rather than an archeologist. Following that, what's your opinion on Indiana Jones, Jon?
Thank you, Jon! I was desperate for a game to play during my vacation, and I love ancient languages and how they get rediscovered. This game is perfect.
Jon's many blind eyes are everywhere, on everything, on everyone. They have been there for a long time. Uncountable aeons. (One of his eyes is on you right now.)
5:54 Later dialogue in the game implies that "Six" is the sixth robot assigned to Aliya, the first five having been broken or lost (much to Myari's annoyance, as robots are a scare resource).
I never figured that this stuff would be interesting to me... Jon, you truly make me excited for all things related to history o.o Lifestream? Series? It's amazing to see you in your element this much :o
Jon, this game seems very interesting and it gives you a chance to shine in, what is arguably, your natural element. Even if you aren't going to do a full series on this, a few livestreams would be awesome! You could give your opinion on what the translation is, then the chat could give a second opinion, then you could agree or disagree with them while explaining your reasoning. Interesting, fun, and educational all at the same time!
Considering my love for all things language and etymology, and the fact that I got excited by proxy every time Jon got a word confirmed correct, I think it's safe to say this belongs on my Steam wishlist, especially with what Makrill0 said about it having replay value. Thank you so much for bringing this to my attention!
I'm about as far into the game as you are, but watching your video now makes me feel SO stupid, because I am mostly guessing about the symbols and I never looked at the single pieces of a word, only the words as a whole. Please do more parts of this, it's so incredibly interesting to listen to your explaining.
Oh Jon! Oh Jon this game is even greater than you think!! After seeing your video I bought the game for myself and started playing it and oh Jon! On Maersi the pig planet where you found a silver statue in the mud I found a stone statue with a different inscription which simply said 'goddess of water' and the well inscription also was different! Mine was simply 'Holy water'. Now I understand why there is a new game plus mode! Oh Jon every single play through is just a little bit different and I love it! So it would be awesome to see this one again wether or not it'll be as a series or maybe a relaxing stream.
I'm not saying Jon wrong, but I find it surprising that he didn't recognize the word 'cyclones' as the synonym for tornadoes and hurricanes and the like.
Has Unirob written a song for "I've had my eye on this a while"? Also, word order in language can be nuts. Learning Korean was insanely difficult as an English native because they keep the verb at the end.
Latin also has the verb at the end and so does what I know of Japanese. I found it quite comforting to see a verb and know I had reached the end of a thought.
this game looks great. even when it is taking shortcuts by not animating some of the movement. the corner cutting is done in a way that is stylish and ethereal feeling. plus i like how it doesn't hold your hand but it doesn't block your progress either. fun stuff.
I wonder if the single circle is a representation of a head. The four little "apostrophes" going into the head might be knowledge, and the light symbol with the head happiness--I think "smile" was one possibility. The double circle could still indicate time, as a small "head" or person growing into a larger one, child into adult.
In the final year of my undergad in archaeology and classics, we had a class on archaeology in the media. And this game was touted as an A+ example. Also I love the point of overlap between hieroglyphics and phonetic writing, its fascinating. In early Cuneiform tablets from mesopotamia, we start with little drawings of items and tallies. Writing seems to often start as an administrative tool. We get the point where it crosses from pictogram to writing when we get to "return". In the admin records, obviously you'd want to note when something is being returned to somebody. But how do you draw rerurn? Well, if you speak ancient sumerian, you realise the word for return is pronounced the same as the word for reed. So you draw a reed to indicate something is returned, and suddenly the symbol isnt a pictogram, but a sound attached to a word. Its so fascinating to look at the very small step in logic that led to such an enormous leap in the history of the world
So after playing the game for a while and coming back to this I must say it is a nice deduction of you that it must be holy because of brooch but later in the game you also get this like silver cooking pans with engravings reading 'rest now for tomorrow you work' (and yes I know all the words no question marks) so unless someone can explain the connection between going to sleep because you have work tomorrow and a cooking utensil you should take the item context always with a grain of salt. Still would love a live stream of the game though
As someone from a place regularly buffeted by cyclones, I die inside everytime Jon mispronounces or misinterprets the word. Here he is translating a fictional ancient language and he doesn't even understand English.
Nathan Drake from Uncharted always seemed like a decent archeologist to me. I mean he seems genuinely interested in the writings on walls, and the history of the artifacts and lost cities he finds. Now if he could've only gotten people to stop shooting at him before the epilogue of Uncharted 4 he'd probably be even more famous than he clearly was based on the newspaper articles on the walls. I mean the man found the lost city of Shangrila in his 2nd game that is some impressive shit right there.
Hi Jon, Claire and Tabby. First of all, I love your stuff. Great commentary and great fun. Bought sooo many game that you have showcase over the years ^^ But on to a totally unrelated question. I missed your live stream over the weekend of imperator. I was wondering if you are going to upload those videos from that live session?
If i remember the specifics correctly, Jon (and the other streamers/uploaders) are currently not allowed to set them as public until the game is released by Paradox. i hope this helped (and that i remember correctly lol)
I would love more. This is just the game you shine in; MATN showing the logical and critical thinking skills that pop out in between his jokes and memes. I really would like to see this, especially given your knowledge of linguistics.
Where the heck did you find the dang golden telescope.. I'm playing through, and got everything you got up to this point, but I've never seen that telescope!
But does this game change a lot based on how "good" someone plays or what kind of dialogue options they choose? Because when I found the chest there was no compass in it at all and the cloth robe also had a whole different description on it...
Remember the only reason we were even capable of understanding egytion hieroglyphics is because some greeks decided to put a text in each of the three main languages which was greek egyptian and some other language I can't come up with. aka the Rosetta stone. There's no such thing for linear A.
I forgot the name of this game despite vividly remembering and enjoying this video until it showed up as an answer on University Challenge of all things. Hilariously it was a bonus question answer in between the Mass Effect and Halo Franchises which probably had budgets many thousands of times higher than this tiny indie game's.
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Jon was so deep into the whole ancient thing, he forgot about cyclones and thought we're doing Rome.
I'm genuinely torn between which aspect of Jon I like better. When Jon's funny, he's really funny. But logical, trained classicist Jon is just as wonderful to watch. This vid is absolute top-shelf MATN and I loved every second of it.
Jon please make this a series. It's a beautiful game, but I feel like it isn't for everyone. Would love to see where this game's story is going but it just isn't a game for me. I'm not as enthusiastic about language as you are, I'd lose interest if I played this myself, but watching you play this is very enjoyable for me, please finish the game
I'm sure it'll only be like one or two more videos until you've pieced together the language and at that point the story has to come to an end too
Pretty please Jon. We won’t insult your perception for at least a week
@@tomm5663 But we will laugh at the way he pronounced Cyclones, completely forgetting that it is an actual word and then creating a theory to support the way he pronounced it xD. Reminds me of when he played My Summer Car and thought alternators are what alternate the firing of pistons......he was *SO* sure he was right lol
I don't think he will, he tends to do complete playthroughs of games with high replay value. This game seems pretty linear so once you know the story and what the words are it removes any reason for the viewers to go out and buy it
@@tokiri485 Exactly. I think this taste is more than enough.
Jon, we'd love this.
Jon, its cyclones as in tropical storm or hurricane.
HailKosm every time he said see-clo-nays I died a little inside
He read it like it was Greek oof...
oh please do this as a series or as a livestream! Your enthusiasm and methodology is brilliant to watch, I loved this!
I need a series of this. It is too wonderful, and too beautiful, to be a one off. Hell, I'll watch a day long livestream, if that's what it takes to see this game through to the end.
I am halfway through the video and now 100% sure I want to play this game myself before watching Jon do this.
As an archaeologist I approve this message
While you have catastrophic perception, I'm always delighted to see how Jon's logic works in stuff like this!
So fascinating and unique. Really great. Not sure I'd play it myself, but watching Jon worth through this is really fun!
He put all his points into intelligence and didn't bother with anything else.
2 years late however, Jon isn’t the type to search every crevice of every single scene/map to make sure he’s found all of the scripture. Which may be required to have a good understanding of the early game before multiple plot lines start to appear and you get thrown so much new words. He’s not much a notetaker I would think too, so if he makes any footnotes on his memory about a certain symbol he’d likely forget it soon. Also the game seems to require the patience in the offchance you need to completely rework your entire collection, or if not the audience to this game will enjoy reading all the lore and from the start you could already read so much history and I don’t know if Jon does that.
I think Lara Croft might be a bad archeologist because she's a raider, rather than an archeologist.
Following that, what's your opinion on Indiana Jones, Jon?
He belongs in a museum!
Seriously though, those were some really classic movies.
Thank you, Jon! I was desperate for a game to play during my vacation, and I love ancient languages and how they get rediscovered. This game is perfect.
Jon's many blind eyes are everywhere, on everything, on everyone. They have been there for a long time. Uncountable aeons.
(One of his eyes is on you right now.)
That's fair, I think they might be lost. 🥚
Someone should help him out! 🐣
Good to see you here again, random person with a cute and memorable profile picture
Elsass Lotharingen Thanks! I stole it ;)
Jon please more of this in my eyeballs! it's really amazing and I love your perspective on these things, especially since I know so little history.
5:54 Later dialogue in the game implies that "Six" is the sixth robot assigned to Aliya, the first five having been broken or lost (much to Myari's annoyance, as robots are a scare resource).
Anyone else actually sing along when he says "I've had my eye on for a while"?
every time
42:40
To the place, I belong
West virginia
Linear A, Linear B ABCs, I get it. Good one!
I remember seeing a linguist on Twitter mention this a while back. Thrilled to see it on the channel!
I never figured that this stuff would be interesting to me... Jon, you truly make me excited for all things related to history o.o
Lifestream? Series? It's amazing to see you in your element this much :o
Definately bring this back for a live stream, please.
I feel like this game was made for me. I must have it immediately. Thank you for showing it to us.
OOh yes, more History Jon! :)
Archaeology's loss is our gain; sorry Archaeology, but as much as i love you, we're keeping him :P
Yes Jon in history mode (:
Very interesting and once you start getting the "feel" for the glyphs it beings to all fall into place! Love this!
I would love to see this as a livestream or a series! This is great!
Jon, this game seems very interesting and it gives you a chance to shine in, what is arguably, your natural element. Even if you aren't going to do a full series on this, a few livestreams would be awesome! You could give your opinion on what the translation is, then the chat could give a second opinion, then you could agree or disagree with them while explaining your reasoning. Interesting, fun, and educational all at the same time!
Considering my love for all things language and etymology, and the fact that I got excited by proxy every time Jon got a word confirmed correct, I think it's safe to say this belongs on my Steam wishlist, especially with what Makrill0
said about it having replay value. Thank you so much for bringing this to my attention!
I'm about as far into the game as you are, but watching your video now makes me feel SO stupid, because I am mostly guessing about the symbols and I never looked at the single pieces of a word, only the words as a whole.
Please do more parts of this, it's so incredibly interesting to listen to your explaining.
I love it. I absolutely love it.
Please livestream this, it’s so awesome :D
What a cool premise for a game. Mix this with Eastshade and I think that would be a game that I'd play and never touch anything else.
This needs to become a series
I feel after only watching a few of your videos that we have a lot of common interests. Subscribing now. Keep the videos coming.
Oh Jon! Oh Jon this game is even greater than you think!!
After seeing your video I bought the game for myself and started playing it and oh Jon! On Maersi the pig planet where you found a silver statue in the mud I found a stone statue with a different inscription which simply said 'goddess of water' and the well inscription also was different! Mine was simply 'Holy water'.
Now I understand why there is a new game plus mode! Oh Jon every single play through is just a little bit different and I love it!
So it would be awesome to see this one again wether or not it'll be as a series or maybe a relaxing stream.
I'm not saying Jon wrong, but I find it surprising that he didn't recognize the word 'cyclones' as the synonym for tornadoes and hurricanes and the like.
im guessing
Sick-lone-ass
Was just the word cyclone, jon.
Like a storm.
Given you then rode threw a storm.
Cyclones.
Emperors shall never die. The double circle you thought had to do with time. shall relates to an event in the future and never had a not future.
E m p e r o r s i r o n s h i n e w r o n g
42:40 To The Place I Belong, West Virginia, Mountain Mama, Take Me Home, Country Roads.
Series please
God Bless you Jon.
Jon please do a series of this, it’s great.
Can this please be a series?
Has Unirob written a song for "I've had my eye on this a while"?
Also, word order in language can be nuts. Learning Korean was insanely difficult as an English native because they keep the verb at the end.
Latin also has the verb at the end and so does what I know of Japanese. I found it quite comforting to see a verb and know I had reached the end of a thought.
A sigh-clone is the name for storms' winds when the air is circling.
33:13 Anyone else yelling at their screen that Jon already knows the word for goddess
this game looks great. even when it is taking shortcuts by not animating some of the movement. the corner cutting is done in a way that is stylish and ethereal feeling. plus i like how it doesn't hold your hand but it doesn't block your progress either. fun stuff.
I wonder if the single circle is a representation of a head. The four little "apostrophes" going into the head might be knowledge, and the light symbol with the head happiness--I think "smile" was one possibility. The double circle could still indicate time, as a small "head" or person growing into a larger one, child into adult.
I would love to see a series of this, Jon. Fascinating.
I think this is going to become a favorite. It's the type of game I would make if I had thought of it, but I didn't so I'm glad someone else did.
In the final year of my undergad in archaeology and classics, we had a class on archaeology in the media. And this game was touted as an A+ example. Also I love the point of overlap between hieroglyphics and phonetic writing, its fascinating. In early Cuneiform tablets from mesopotamia, we start with little drawings of items and tallies. Writing seems to often start as an administrative tool. We get the point where it crosses from pictogram to writing when we get to "return". In the admin records, obviously you'd want to note when something is being returned to somebody. But how do you draw rerurn? Well, if you speak ancient sumerian, you realise the word for return is pronounced the same as the word for reed. So you draw a reed to indicate something is returned, and suddenly the symbol isnt a pictogram, but a sound attached to a word. Its so fascinating to look at the very small step in logic that led to such an enormous leap in the history of the world
More please Jon, live stream or series please.
So after playing the game for a while and coming back to this I must say it is a nice deduction of you that it must be holy because of brooch but later in the game you also get this like silver cooking pans with engravings reading 'rest now for tomorrow you work' (and yes I know all the words no question marks) so unless someone can explain the connection between going to sleep because you have work tomorrow and a cooking utensil you should take the item context always with a grain of salt.
Still would love a live stream of the game though
This looks absolutely amazing
Please continue this game. I would love to see it to the end.
well, that was interesting, and i am glad that managed to figure out a symbol or two before jon!
Jon must have a lot of eyes.
As someone from a place regularly buffeted by cyclones, I die inside everytime Jon mispronounces or misinterprets the word.
Here he is translating a fictional ancient language and he doesn't even understand English.
Nathan Drake from Uncharted always seemed like a decent archeologist to me. I mean he seems genuinely interested in the writings on walls, and the history of the artifacts and lost cities he finds. Now if he could've only gotten people to stop shooting at him before the epilogue of Uncharted 4 he'd probably be even more famous than he clearly was based on the newspaper articles on the walls. I mean the man found the lost city of Shangrila in his 2nd game that is some impressive shit right there.
_that robot looks like it has a human soul inside of it, and if that isn’t a major plot point it should be._
Well, you did better than I expected.
Do a full series please.
This is fascinating, please play more
Please please pleaseee make this into a series
Matn; mentions only Toumb raider for game archaeology
Me, an uncharted fan; hey, wait a minute
While noteworthy, I don't recall Nathan Drake being any better than Laura for historical sites.
@@leafruns7672 true
To be fair, drake is technically a thief not an archeologist.
@@ananonynoussauce7616 true, but, let's be honest, so are Lara and Indie in more than a few ways. Indie is better though.
Jon, why are you pronouncing cyclones so strangely?
Because he misinterpreted it as an ancient thing because he's an Oxford
Please continue to play this
Hi Jon, Claire and Tabby. First of all, I love your stuff. Great commentary and great fun. Bought sooo many game that you have showcase over the years ^^ But on to a totally unrelated question. I missed your live stream over the weekend of imperator. I was wondering if you are going to upload those videos from that live session?
If i remember the specifics correctly, Jon (and the other streamers/uploaders) are currently not allowed to set them as public until the game is released by Paradox. i hope this helped (and that i remember correctly lol)
@@lostpupper2632 ahh i see. Thank you for the reply
@@Joensen83 You are very welcome :D
Man we are lucky that they're calligraphers had consistent handwriting throughout the entire game
This game is so cool.
How much of the game would you do in a livestream? Like another 45 minutes or a couple of hours?
MJ Steward When Jon livestreams, it's between 3 and 5 hours.
PjotrSpot sweet thanks
I would love more. This is just the game you shine in; MATN showing the logical and critical thinking skills that pop out in between his jokes and memes. I really would like to see this, especially given your knowledge of linguistics.
This would make a great series or stream.
please tell me you have more of this on your channel
make it a series Jon please.
Ding Dong, the owl is here.
I official love this concept for a game.
Where the heck did you find the dang golden telescope.. I'm playing through, and got everything you got up to this point, but I've never seen that telescope!
"No5 is alive!"
No6 on the other hand, just stole somebody's soul.
Does Jon know solar wind is genuinely a thing? This game seemed lovely and was (as ever) very well presented.
please do more of this!!!!
This is awesome! Can we have more of it?! :D
Full playthrough or riot
42:40 Apparently the Holy Empire was the birthplace of John Denver.
For some reason when he said take me home my mind went to country roads
Absolutely love this new Jon who loves history. Good stuff!
“New” Jon? Man, he studied Classics at Oxford. He’s always been a history buff, and it’s always showed up in his history-themed videos.
@@MW-pb2gf I legit had no idea lmao. I like it tho.
SIK-LO-NEZ AHSDJAKSKDHAGHDS
good video part 2 please
But does this game change a lot based on how "good" someone plays or what kind of dialogue options they choose? Because when I found the chest there was no compass in it at all and the cloth robe also had a whole different description on it...
Fuck, games like this really show how smart Jon can be
Please please please do more
Remember the only reason we were even capable of understanding egytion hieroglyphics is because some greeks decided to put a text in each of the three main languages which was greek egyptian and some other language I can't come up with. aka the Rosetta stone. There's no such thing for linear A.
this remids me of that time when started learning japanase
Huang the smooth talker going straight to the topic of Annal
*I've had my eye on for a while now*
More please
I forgot the name of this game despite vividly remembering and enjoying this video until it showed up as an answer on University Challenge of all things. Hilariously it was a bonus question answer in between the Mass Effect and Halo Franchises which probably had budgets many thousands of times higher than this tiny indie game's.
I paused this video half way through and bought the game.
Jon looks at a two symbol word and talks about the right and middle characters!
More please!!
Please make a livestream out of this!
6 or No6 is a reference to Short Circuit. (Johnny 5).
Or Tricia Helfer in Battlestar Galactica. :)
Or he's just called six because she already lost five other robots who after the first one were all called by their respective number.