THE definitive review by the best reviewer going at the moment. Chris never fails to deliver a rounded, trust worthy opinion in his usual humble, classy and funny way. Another solid review.
Man your reviews... are so good! The other thing is I wish I can afford to drop my bike (afford repairs) to learn to drive like you. But my wallet can only afford petrol and oil so I must ride very carefully.
They are so damned good. He always breaks everything down and looks at it from as many perspectives as possible. Moreover, unlike many other reviewers, he doesn't seem to show up and have his mind made up ahead of time, about how to classify or think about a bike. Chris seems to always have an open mind, and give a bike its due diligence.
I have several bikes, one of which is a Tiger800 (street) with 705 Shinkos. I shudder to think about flicking that thing about like my KDX in the dirt like some of these guys.
Been looking forward to this! Such a shame Triumph always make the road focussed bikes less good looking (in paint scheme terms) than the off road Rally ones!
As a german speaker, I really appreciate your reporting on that bikes, honest, professional, genuine and very comprehensive. Thanks for not using complicated words for that review 👏🏽! Sofort abonniert…
I was saying this in passing to my bike mates the other day, Triumph have really been smashing it in the last couple of years. I'm really excited to see what they come out with in the Enduro category, even more so now seeing how offroad focused these big bikes are! Great video Chris & co.
Wow! Loved your review, very thorough! I own a GS and wouldn’t have even looked at the old Triumph Explorer when it comes to a new bike, but I would now. Great job Triumph!
Awesome review and opinion!! Trust your opinion basically more than everyone else's. Also, you seem to be unbelievably skilled - This sets the videos and your thoughts on bikes a fair amount apart from other well known reviewers
Another great review Chris, you are certainly the ‘go to guy’ for an honest unbiased test. The Tiger seems to have all the bases covered, but getting folk to swap out their GS for one will be a challenge. However it seems this time Triumph has the bike to do it, let’s see.
What I really appreciate about the new Tiger 1200 series is even if you pick up the GT, it wouldn’t be a dog off-road like say, an S1000XR or Versys 1000 would be. I hardly ever go off road but if I’m on tour I’d like to at least have the confidence I can do some light trail riding to reach a campsite or explore new roads without feeling the bike wanting to wash out all over.
Let's me say this, Chris is the best bike reviewer that've come across and I've seen a lot of different reviewer. All around, everything I need to know about the bike. Amazing.
I’ve owned the Tiger 800XC, which I loved, but always enjoyed the Explorer. Rented it a few times when abroad. Always found the Explorer a great, beautiful but heavy beast. Some incredible innovation by Triumph loosing the 25kgs. Well done Triumph! I am seriously considering it. Thanks for this great review!
I loved this balanced review. Undecided about trading up from the 900 Rally Pro to the 1200 Rally Pro. I already have enough trouble lifting the weight of the 900 out of a mud puddle.
Sorry if I skipped to the off-road mate but OMG, how good it's to watch those brake and turn and throttle slides... Certainly one of my goals as a rider. Excellent approach on the Tiger vs GS thing. I think they'll always look and be different to each other and that's a good thing honestly. Thanks Chris great video. When we'll see one of the 900? Cheers
12:22 this is perfect, this is to the point, dirty, street what ever you wanna ride, this how every manufacturer should look at it, great video thx man
Nice review, I usually skip the kind of review that talks sweet and all positive about a particular bike but yours stands out. Wish you make another video talking about negative sides of the tiger models. I’m thinking to switch from T120 to tiger GT Pro and I’d like to know more.
Great review, thanks Chris. I had a 2018 3rd Gen Tiger 1200 and it's one of the best bikes I've ever owned. When the better half got her motorcycle licence I traded it in for a 1290 SDR and have always slightly regretted it. It had its flaws don't get me wrong, but it's the most comfortable bike I've ever ridden. As much as I love the SDR, all I mostly do now is commute so seriously thinking about trading it in for a new GT PRO. I'll be heading to my local dealer to give it a test ride as soon as they are in!
Great job Chris, very good analysis, very professional video, and the Tiger in all that? well I just adopted a big Gt pro, and it's my first big trail, after 40 years of motorcycling, it's never too late, and this motorcycle is really successful, I take a little more pleasure each day. thanks again Chris
Well done, excellent review. Reliable advice, because you can actually ride the bikes hard, therefore descovering the bikes good and bad points. Best Tiger review I have watched so far!
Love the side profile of this bike. Triumph is advancing the adventure bike charge like nobody's business. Maybe this will finally prompt BMW to provide an optional 21 on the next GS? Or force Yamaha to produce a new S10?
Very nice review 👍 I'm very curious to test ride this bike myself, mainly to get a feel of the weight. IMO, the tiger 850/900 is as heavy as an adventure style bike should ever be. Super well balanced, the 216 kg wet weight is almost unnoticeable. So the big question is....Has the 1200 tipped the scales to far in the wrong direction? Can't wait to try one out for myself to determine with tiger is the true king! 💪💪🇬🇧🇵🇹
There can’t be many journos, actually - strike that - there can’t be many PEOPLE who can extract as much from a bike both ON and OFF ROAD as Chris. Great, balanced, intelligent review. I own a 2019 Tiger 1200 XRT and have pondered whether to even test one as the price has gone up a lot since I bought mine. If nothing else, Chris’s review encourages me to at least TRY the new bike.
@@jesseonamotorcycle Yes i got it! Its by far the best bike i ever had. I have never had a seat and suspension like this. I can easily spend 3 hours on the the bike with my bad back. After a short rest i can ride for 3 more hours. On other bikes my butt and back hurts after 20 minutes. The engine is great and the clutch is like butter. It´s a big bike so it takes a while to get used to it but it handles phenomenal for being so big. I like the GS but after testriding them both the choice was easy. The Rally Explorer is more comfortable, got more power and is so much more fun to ride 🙂
Excellent review. Spot on. The Triumph looks like a very nice bike and good alternative to the chunky BMW GS. The price is good, it is not cheap, for a quality bike I'd say it is just right. It comes in at about $5,000 cheaper than the GSA, lighter, slimmer, drive shaft, panniers, if the suspension is as good......who cares about all those electronics.
Thanks Chris. Another great review. Sounds like the Rally Pro will be just as good as the GT Pro on road, but with the added bonus of off-road capabilities. Just got myself a Tiger 900 RP for that reason. I think weight wise, this will be around 25kg more than a 900 Rally Pro? Fine on road, but without your off road skills, more of a challenge off-road.
Thanks Chris for this review ! I loved the way you described T-plane engine way of working vs previous one ! That says it all in the best possible way ! Used to have a Tiger 800 xca, can’t wait to try this Tiger 1200 GT version. I’ll also be looking for GT reviews on long haul trips ( wind protection ?) and with a pillion.
We saw about 45mpg on the test which I would expect to be a bit higher under normal riding conditions (ie not repeated stop starts and waiting for photography)
Looks pretty substantial on the off road one and we didn’t break any but neither did we really hit much with them. Ivan Cervantes (5x World Enduro Champion) did a demo and was clattering over rocks and truck tyres with one so guessing it’s reasonably tough 👍
Assuming it has none of the shadowy shaft drive spline issues of the GS, the new 1200 looks like a winner on price, power and on/off road handling. Being so big, I'd guess huge load carrying capacity and serene long distance comfort both come as standard. Given that only very few potential buyers are ever likely to seriously test the most extreme off road abilities of the bike, it's hard to see a downside to this genuinely unique platform. I think the 1200 is now on an equal but *different* footing to the 1250 AND to the 1290.
Great review as usual. I couldn't stop looking at the running lights: maybe it's a bit of an optical illusion depending on the camera angle but they seem really exposed and are predestined for breaking off during the very first tip over. At least on the GT, Triumph could have saved another kilo as the "skid plate" is as high quality as the standard KTM 890 Adventure item (sic) with even less coverage. Otherwise, looks like a job well done.
Your review was top shelf . Yes not to compare to a gs was a good point . We are all different riders with different skills . Let’s find the shoe( bike ) that fits us best as individualists
I think it's a mistake to market the Tiger as a GS beater. I agree with you that riders buy the GS because its a GS. This new 1200 seems to be a great bike in its own right, market it as such, and have faith that the great handling, easy to ride characteristics will tempt people into buying. Colours could be better on GT though, or is everyone grey these days? Prefer my Black/orange Superduke GT.
Another excellent review 👍🏻. Really good editing, excellent technical info, excellent riding skills to actually test the bike on and off road, and most importantly - actual detailed opinions of the good and bad things about the bike, not just regurgitating the marketing stuff. Another excellent episode - best bike channel by far 🏆
is it just me , but all i learnt here (and in all this guys videos) is that a excellent rider can ride a bike excellently, and show off. back in the real world we have the press pack and little more.
There are plenty of people on the launch who’ll read you the spec sheet, our vids are more about the riding experience. We want to inspire you to go and have a ride for yourself. Thanks for the feedback though.
@@BikeWorldTVshow thanks for the reply, if you were to ask me what i am interested in, then I would say real world life with the bike, fit and finish, how does the bike feel when ridden at legal speeds, is the clutch action heavy, does the screen work, how is it for slow speed, how do the brakes feel/work, what is the steering lock like, does it feel top heavy, easy to wheel around, be good to know about the rider aids and the luggage. Not really interested in the specs tbh. I just get a feeling that most bike reviewers (exc. TMF) live in a different biking world to me, maybe i am the exception and everyone rides the TT and Dakar 😄
@@ru54623 Get where you're coming from, Chris does cover some of that stuff off in this vid. But, it's difficult to go into that much detail on a launch, one of the reason you won't see TMF on launches. You need to live with a bike for a while. Also, we're a TV show and our content is slightly more lifestyle based. Sorry we can't offer you more.
so its very competitive against the GS, but what about the KTM 1290 super adventure? does it hold a candle to the insane hooligan nature of the austrian machine or is it not as hardcore?
Interesting question. Very interested in answers to these questions... Since i drive this insane hooligan KTM , would love to see/hear opinions on this comparison
Bit more refined than the KTM, especially in how smooth the suspension is. As you say not as hardcore, came close to toppling the KTM off my favourite Adventure bike list, but not quite 😁
@@erwindenengelsen8144 I think all the bikes in this class across the different manufacturers come with different strong points and different compromises. The KTM's strong point is outright power, and torque. But at the expense of a bit of refinement/comfort/fuel economy/heat dissipation. The GS is the opposite end of the scale. Lower BHP. But it's top trump is mega mileage comfort + shaft drive for zero maintenance. The new Tiger seems to pitch somewhere in the middle for me. Decent BHP, quickshifter, decent comfort, bit lighter than the old one, and a bit more character to the engine. But it's not the soft riding wind protected smooth sofa feel of the GS, and It's not going to rival the KTM on hooligan'ism and pure off road/adventure ability.
Have a RP 900 and love it. Besides some teething problems (bought one of the first models). In a couple of years will upgrade it to the the 1200 I think. Will be a though choice as I always wanted to own a GS....
Chris, your videos made me subscribe to this channel. You're an unreal rider... I'm about to pull the trigger on either the 2023 Tiger 1200 Rally or the 2022 R1250GS. The Pan America and Honda Africa Twin AS are close options. I've been riding sportbikes on the track and on the road for 20 years, but this would be my first adventure bike. I'm loving the horsepower rating of the Tiger, but I feel the BMW may be a better adventure bike for an "off road" novice? Plus, I want a bike that can still pull a wheelie when I feel the need like my sportbikes, which I read the GS loves doing it lol. What would you recommend ?
great bike. but the aux light are in such a position, when the bike fall and it will fall on off road for sure. those aux light will be damage. old tiger 800 has the same problem with indicator placed at similar location which they changed in new version.
Really good review. But I have to wonder, how many people are going to buy the Triumph 1200 Rally for a machine to rip off road? What is the market for this bike? I can more easily see the appeal of the 1200 GT Explorer. I’m not bagging the Rally, just wondering what sort of rider this bike really suits.
It’s always an interesting question that - some people do use them off road for sure but I think the perception is that they need to have that off-road credibility so you know that whatever level of riding you choose to do, the bike will be capable of taking it.
It’s a triumph so quite likely, the 900 rally I find better on the road than GT so I would imagine the 1200 may be similar in that respect. Only one way to find out
@@chrisnorthover7582 Chris you can RIDE THE S--T out of a bike off road. I have ordered a 1200 Rally pro explorer, I like the off road look and I wont to have it I need it. I'm 82 age I hope the vibration is not to bad. I always owned BMW GS Adventure bikes in the past. Your review sold me. I have rode from age 6 to now. Thanks for you input.
Excellent review. Answers all the stuff we want to know & brill presentation. Really like the sound of the new Tiger. Well done Triumph Only one thing...... Seems to be a review of 2 bikes. One very road focused. One really off road focused. Not sure how we can compare 2 specialist bike to the best selling all rounder Adventurer ( Yes I ride a GS)?
Out on ride today. Came across Tiger Riider in middle of no where. Major off road stuff me me & mate (I'm very average but it was proper off road for me) He had road tires. Wearing jeans. Trainers. T shirt. Looked lost & in need of support. "Wanna follow us" "Naw" "I'm ok" Balls to match bike. Top guy. Really hope he made it. Gotta buy a Tiger.
Ah ha maybe that’s Triumph’s cunning plan… although to be fair BMW do offer both adventure and non-adventure versions of the GS and ones with spoked wheels and ones without.
We have talked about the suspension, engine, chassis....but not once did you mention how comfortable it was (or wasn't). Which is why we buy big adventure bikes in the first place!
Valid point and one it’s tricky to answer until we get one in the UK for a long steady slog. Generally I’ve found that when you’re charging about in corners and fun roads most bikes manage to be comfortable- it needs a long slog back home at the end of the ride to really test that. The wind protection was pretty good, very stable and without much buffering for me at 5’8”. Vibes through the bars were my only real complaint.
Rally pro comes on Metzeler Karoo Street - surprisingly capable off Road as long as it’s dry - we rode off road on the approved tyre option which is the Michelin Anakee Wild.
I wonder what it is like fully loaded with luggage and pillion over a days riding? If it is a good as a GS in this respect and Triumph up the quality of their dealer back-up then I might just consider one.
They’ve done a lot to manage the flow of air and heat and it wasn’t a problem on the launch, although ambient temperatures were pretty mild around the 15 degC mark.
I am in love with my Tiger900 GT PRO. Was hoping that 1200 will be looking more distinctive , not just like a bigger 900 :) Nonetheless still a great bike.
really enjoyed the review but wish you choose one model to do both off raod and on road. I like many others cannot afford to own two models of the same bike. would have liked to know bigger front wheel handled street riding and vice versa.
THE definitive review by the best reviewer going at the moment. Chris never fails to deliver a rounded, trust worthy opinion in his usual humble, classy and funny way. Another solid review.
great to see he can ride the dame thing !!!!!!
you are becoming my favorite moto reviewer...excellent balance of technical details blended with your subjective observations and humor! well done....
Exactly. That's what I was about to write.
Man your reviews... are so good! The other thing is I wish I can afford to drop my bike (afford repairs) to learn to drive like you. But my wallet can only afford petrol and oil so I must ride very carefully.
They are so damned good. He always breaks everything down and looks at it from as many perspectives as possible. Moreover, unlike many other reviewers, he doesn't seem to show up and have his mind made up ahead of time, about how to classify or think about a bike. Chris seems to always have an open mind, and give a bike its due diligence.
I have several bikes, one of which is a Tiger800 (street) with 705 Shinkos. I shudder to think about flicking that thing about like my KDX in the dirt like some of these guys.
To learn do it on an OLD cheap dual sport, not your pride and joy proper bike
The best bike tester without a shadow of a doubt. I know he won't sugar coat failings and by god can he ride.
Been looking forward to this! Such a shame Triumph always make the road focussed bikes less good looking (in paint scheme terms) than the off road Rally ones!
you're right, the Rally does look cool.
I totally agree with you! After sitting on the bike a few times now, and hope to test it myself soon - probably less fiercely than Chris!
Erm, marketing maybe.
Agreed!
I hear the matt khaki green for the 900 is being dropped this year as well. Am interested to know what the new scheme will be.
Spot on TMF
As a german speaker, I really appreciate your reporting on that bikes, honest, professional, genuine and very comprehensive. Thanks for not using complicated words for that review 👏🏽! Sofort abonniert…
I can say with complete certainty that you’re reviews are the best on any bike. Well done sir!!!
Thanks Mark, we work hard on these vids. 👍🏻
Looks and sounds the business! Your reviews always seem on point, thanks for the video!
I didn't know what riding a bike really meant until I met Chris. Awesome stuff like always, thank you for your work!! 🚀
I was saying this in passing to my bike mates the other day, Triumph have really been smashing it in the last couple of years.
I'm really excited to see what they come out with in the Enduro category, even more so now seeing how offroad focused these big bikes are! Great video Chris & co.
Wow! Loved your review, very thorough! I own a GS and wouldn’t have even looked at the old Triumph Explorer when it comes to a new bike, but I would now. Great job Triumph!
Awesome review and opinion!!
Trust your opinion basically more than everyone else's.
Also, you seem to be unbelievably skilled - This sets the videos and your thoughts on bikes a fair amount apart from other well known reviewers
THE most skill full bike journalist in the business (imho 😎). Nice bike, great review cheers Chris 👍🏻
definitely knows what he is doing with these machines, that's for sure.
Another great review Chris, you are certainly the ‘go to guy’ for an honest unbiased test. The Tiger seems to have all the bases covered, but getting folk to swap out their GS for one will be a challenge. However it seems this time Triumph has the bike to do it, let’s see.
I really like how enthousiastic Chris is. Another proper video! Keep it up team.
That is a sharp looking motorcycle👍 absolutely love the way it looks. That windscreen is done so right!
Excellent review once more!! My compliments and… greetings from Greece!!
What I really appreciate about the new Tiger 1200 series is even if you pick up the GT, it wouldn’t be a dog off-road like say, an S1000XR or Versys 1000 would be. I hardly ever go off road but if I’m on tour I’d like to at least have the confidence I can do some light trail riding to reach a campsite or explore new roads without feeling the bike wanting to wash out all over.
You just spoke for at least 80% of Adventure bike owners.
Let's me say this, Chris is the best bike reviewer that've come across and I've seen a lot of different reviewer. All around, everything I need to know about the bike. Amazing.
Best bike reviewer imo, thanks for your hard work
I’ve owned the Tiger 800XC, which I loved, but always enjoyed the Explorer. Rented it a few times when abroad. Always found the Explorer a great, beautiful but heavy beast. Some incredible innovation by Triumph loosing the 25kgs. Well done Triumph! I am seriously considering it.
Thanks for this great review!
I loved this balanced review. Undecided about trading up from the 900 Rally Pro to the 1200 Rally Pro. I already have enough trouble lifting the weight of the 900 out of a mud puddle.
I really enjoyed your video. 🤩 ⭐️
Thanks for Sharing! 👍🏼💕
To me it seems more competition for KTM than the GS. Great review and great riding/filming.
Sorry if I skipped to the off-road mate but OMG, how good it's to watch those brake and turn and throttle slides... Certainly one of my goals as a rider. Excellent approach on the Tiger vs GS thing. I think they'll always look and be different to each other and that's a good thing honestly.
Thanks Chris great video.
When we'll see one of the 900?
Cheers
Hoping to get out on one this year with the guys at the Triumph Adventure Academy.
Perfect commentary which seems to me a very honest and unbiased review !!
Excellent in depth review. What a bike, one for every need and pocket.
One of my fav reviewers, awesome job, i watch the reviews for bikes i dont even plan to buy or ride.
Great video and review. Great riding skills. I really enjoyed this.
Cheers!
12:22 this is perfect, this is to the point, dirty, street what ever you wanna ride, this how every manufacturer should look at it, great video thx man
Nice review, I usually skip the kind of review that talks sweet and all positive about a particular bike but yours stands out. Wish you make another video talking about negative sides of the tiger models. I’m thinking to switch from T120 to tiger GT Pro and I’d like to know more.
Great review, thanks Chris. I had a 2018 3rd Gen Tiger 1200 and it's one of the best bikes I've ever owned. When the better half got her motorcycle licence I traded it in for a 1290 SDR and have always slightly regretted it. It had its flaws don't get me wrong, but it's the most comfortable bike I've ever ridden. As much as I love the SDR, all I mostly do now is commute so seriously thinking about trading it in for a new GT PRO. I'll be heading to my local dealer to give it a test ride as soon as they are in!
Great job Chris, very good analysis, very professional video, and the Tiger in all that? well I just adopted a big Gt pro, and it's my first big trail, after 40 years of motorcycling, it's never too late, and this motorcycle is really successful, I take a little more pleasure each day. thanks again Chris
Well done, excellent review. Reliable advice, because you can actually ride the bikes hard, therefore descovering the bikes good and bad points. Best Tiger review I have watched so far!
One of the best road testers out there
Love the side profile of this bike. Triumph is advancing the adventure bike charge like nobody's business. Maybe this will finally prompt BMW to provide an optional 21 on the next GS? Or force Yamaha to produce a new S10?
Great review and enjoyable presentation style - keep it up mate 👍
Very nice review 👍
I'm very curious to test ride this bike myself, mainly to get a feel of the weight.
IMO, the tiger 850/900 is as heavy as an adventure style bike should ever be. Super well balanced, the 216 kg wet weight is almost unnoticeable.
So the big question is....Has the 1200 tipped the scales to far in the wrong direction?
Can't wait to try one out for myself to determine with tiger is the true king! 💪💪🇬🇧🇵🇹
This bloke knows how to review bikes. Good job.
There can’t be many journos, actually - strike that - there can’t be many PEOPLE who can extract as much from a bike both ON and OFF ROAD as Chris. Great, balanced, intelligent review. I own a 2019 Tiger 1200 XRT and have pondered whether to even test one as the price has gone up a lot since I bought mine. If nothing else, Chris’s review encourages me to at least TRY the new bike.
I´m waiting for my Rally Explorer! When i took this bike out for a ride i was sold. This is going to be a great summer :-)
Jonas did you get the Rally Explorer? How are you liking it ?
@@jesseonamotorcycle Yes i got it! Its by far the best bike i ever had. I have never had a seat and suspension like this. I can easily spend 3 hours on the the bike with my bad back. After a short rest i can ride for 3 more hours. On other bikes my butt and back hurts after 20 minutes. The engine is great and the clutch is like butter. It´s a big bike so it takes a while to get used to it but it handles phenomenal for being so big. I like the GS but after testriding them both the choice was easy. The Rally Explorer is more comfortable, got more power and is so much more fun to ride 🙂
What a fantastic review, Chris is really the ultimate tester on and off road you sir are truly the best reviewer on RUclips bravo sir! 👍
Excellent review. Spot on. The Triumph looks like a very nice bike and good alternative to the chunky BMW GS. The price is good, it is not cheap, for a quality bike I'd say it is just right. It comes in at about $5,000 cheaper than the GSA, lighter, slimmer, drive shaft, panniers, if the suspension is as good......who cares about all those electronics.
Thanks Chris. Another great review. Sounds like the Rally Pro will be just as good as the GT Pro on road, but with the added bonus of off-road capabilities. Just got myself a Tiger 900 RP for that reason. I think weight wise, this will be around 25kg more than a 900 Rally Pro? Fine on road, but without your off road skills, more of a challenge off-road.
First class review mate, thank you,
Thanks Chris for this review ! I loved the way you described T-plane engine way of working vs previous one ! That says it all in the best possible way ! Used to have a Tiger 800 xca, can’t wait to try this Tiger 1200 GT version. I’ll also be looking for GT reviews on long haul trips ( wind protection ?) and with a pillion.
man, this was really a great review! Thanks, subbed immediately at the 1st wheelie
Shouts from New Zealand. Great review. What a weapon. One thing I would love to know and is pertinent at this time. Fuel consumption!!!
We saw about 45mpg on the test which I would expect to be a bit higher under normal riding conditions (ie not repeated stop starts and waiting for photography)
@@chrisnorthover7582 Thanks Chris!! ;-)
Skipped the first half🤪, enjoyed the second half
Awesome vid and review , is the bash plate any good ...
Looks pretty substantial on the off road one and we didn’t break any but neither did we really hit much with them. Ivan Cervantes (5x World Enduro Champion) did a demo and was clattering over rocks and truck tyres with one so guessing it’s reasonably tough 👍
Loving this recent adventure bike reviews from Chris...that's real consumer review from both spectrums... great job 👍
Another very good review Chris - Well done mate!
I have a 2022 Street Triple RS and love it. The new Tiger 1200 is going to be my next bike!!!
EJ awesome bike, when do you plan on getting a Tiger ?
Assuming it has none of the shadowy shaft drive spline issues of the GS, the new 1200 looks like a winner on price, power and on/off road handling. Being so big, I'd guess huge load carrying capacity and serene long distance comfort both come as standard. Given that only very few potential buyers are ever likely to seriously test the most extreme off road abilities of the bike, it's hard to see a downside to this genuinely unique platform. I think the 1200 is now on an equal but *different* footing to the 1250 AND to the 1290.
Great review as usual. I couldn't stop looking at the running lights: maybe it's a bit of an optical illusion depending on the camera angle but they seem really exposed and are predestined for breaking off during the very first tip over. At least on the GT, Triumph could have saved another kilo as the "skid plate" is as high quality as the standard KTM 890 Adventure item (sic) with even less coverage. Otherwise, looks like a job well done.
I just love your reviews Chris...
Great video, what will it be like on my Welsh Roads
Fantastic review! Thanks Chris
Thanks Chris. Great review. I watched your review of the KTM 1290 super adventure, how does this compare with that?
Closer to the Super Adventure S than the R, not quite as mad but with a better chassis setup on the road for sure.
Your review was top shelf . Yes not to compare to a gs was a good point . We are all different riders with different skills . Let’s find the shoe( bike ) that fits us best as individualists
Great review!
Fantastic review - your riding is insanely good!
I think it's a mistake to market the Tiger as a GS beater. I agree with you that riders buy the GS because its a GS. This new 1200 seems to be a great bike in its own right, market it as such, and have faith that the great handling, easy to ride characteristics will tempt people into buying. Colours could be better on GT though, or is everyone grey these days?
Prefer my Black/orange Superduke GT.
Fine commentary from a fine rider on a sweet bike !
Really nice review and ride skills, how does it compare to the multistrada V4S you've reviewed off road ?
Little better in terms of chassis, although I preferred the throttle feel and low speed balance of the Ducati.
That was some phenomenal off-road riding. I'm a fan now.
Joshua are you going to get a Tiger ?
@@jesseonamotorcycle Still saving up but have not decided yet.
@@joshuavarghese6853 its definitely a sick bike. I just got one recently.
@@jesseonamotorcycle that is amazing. Have fun and ride safe.
Awesome review as usual from you sir. Keep up the good work
Do you have any plans for testing the 2.gen S1000XR soon? I would love your take on it.
Another excellent review 👍🏻. Really good editing, excellent technical info, excellent riding skills to actually test the bike on and off road, and most importantly - actual detailed opinions of the good and bad things about the bike, not just regurgitating the marketing stuff. Another excellent episode - best bike channel by far 🏆
Best engine description ever !
Hello Chris, I would love to see your take on the Africa Twin 1100! You are the best reviewer!
Great review Chris
Awesome vid again!
The only problem watching you is it highlights how shit I am on my bike! 😂😂😂😂
Fully loaded Tiger Pro Explorer incoming! Excellent review!
Ivan did you get your Tiger ?
Yes, waaay better than my old Tiger. I’m 7,000 miles it and it is the perfect stable mate for my Rocket TFC.
@@triumphthunderbird1 nice 👍🏼
Great review, thanks for the info
is it just me , but all i learnt here (and in all this guys videos) is that a excellent rider can ride a bike excellently, and show off. back in the real world we have the press pack and little more.
There are plenty of people on the launch who’ll read you the spec sheet, our vids are more about the riding experience. We want to inspire you to go and have a ride for yourself. Thanks for the feedback though.
@@BikeWorldTVshow thanks for the reply, if you were to ask me what i am interested in, then I would say real world life with the bike, fit and finish, how does the bike feel when ridden at legal speeds, is the clutch action heavy, does the screen work, how is it for slow speed, how do the brakes feel/work, what is the steering lock like, does it feel top heavy, easy to wheel around, be good to know about the rider aids and the luggage. Not really interested in the specs tbh. I just get a feeling that most bike reviewers (exc. TMF) live in a different biking world to me, maybe i am the exception and everyone rides the TT and Dakar 😄
@@ru54623 Get where you're coming from, Chris does cover some of that stuff off in this vid. But, it's difficult to go into that much detail on a launch, one of the reason you won't see TMF on launches. You need to live with a bike for a while. Also, we're a TV show and our content is slightly more lifestyle based. Sorry we can't offer you more.
@@BikeWorldTVshow fair comment, i do enjoy the content, just less relevant to me 👍
so its very competitive against the GS, but what about the KTM 1290 super adventure? does it hold a candle to the insane hooligan nature of the austrian machine or is it not as hardcore?
Interesting question. Very interested in answers to these questions... Since i drive this insane hooligan KTM , would love to see/hear opinions on this comparison
Bit more refined than the KTM, especially in how smooth the suspension is. As you say not as hardcore, came close to toppling the KTM off my favourite Adventure bike list, but not quite 😁
@@erwindenengelsen8144 I think all the bikes in this class across the different manufacturers come with different strong points and different compromises. The KTM's strong point is outright power, and torque. But at the expense of a bit of refinement/comfort/fuel economy/heat dissipation. The GS is the opposite end of the scale. Lower BHP. But it's top trump is mega mileage comfort + shaft drive for zero maintenance. The new Tiger seems to pitch somewhere in the middle for me. Decent BHP, quickshifter, decent comfort, bit lighter than the old one, and a bit more character to the engine. But it's not the soft riding wind protected smooth sofa feel of the GS, and It's not going to rival the KTM on hooligan'ism and pure off road/adventure ability.
@@davesimm então a TIGER oferece o melhor dos dois mundo de forma bem equilibrada, um pouco de cada!
Have a RP 900 and love it. Besides some teething problems (bought one of the first models). In a couple of years will upgrade it to the the 1200 I think. Will be a though choice as I always wanted to own a GS....
Chris, your videos made me subscribe to this channel. You're an unreal rider...
I'm about to pull the trigger on either the 2023 Tiger 1200 Rally or the 2022 R1250GS. The Pan America and Honda Africa Twin AS are close options. I've been riding sportbikes on the track and on the road for 20 years, but this would be my first adventure bike. I'm loving the horsepower rating of the Tiger, but I feel the BMW may be a better adventure bike for an "off road" novice? Plus, I want a bike that can still pull a wheelie when I feel the need like my sportbikes, which I read the GS loves doing it lol. What would you recommend ?
great bike. but the aux light are in such a position, when the bike fall and it will fall on off road for sure. those aux light will be damage. old tiger 800 has the same problem with indicator placed at similar location which they changed in new version.
Really good review. But I have to wonder, how many people are going to buy the Triumph 1200 Rally for a machine to rip off road? What is the market for this bike? I can more easily see the appeal of the 1200 GT Explorer.
I’m not bagging the Rally, just wondering what sort of rider this bike really suits.
It’s always an interesting question that - some people do use them off road for sure but I think the perception is that they need to have that off-road credibility so you know that whatever level of riding you choose to do, the bike will be capable of taking it.
Thanks @BikeWorld! So would we be happy with the 21” inch front also on tarmac and road tyres or does the 19” version make a big difference?
This! I like off road AND the twisties
It’s a triumph so quite likely, the 900 rally I find better on the road than GT so I would imagine the 1200 may be similar in that respect. Only one way to find out
21” felt just as good as the 19” on the roads we rode, plus the extra ground clearance meant more lean angle to play with before the pegs touched.
@@chrisnorthover7582 Chris you can RIDE THE S--T out of a bike off road. I have ordered a 1200 Rally pro explorer, I like the off road look and I wont to have it I need it.
I'm 82 age I hope the vibration is not to bad. I always owned BMW GS Adventure bikes in the past. Your review sold me. I have rode from age 6 to now. Thanks for you input.
Excellent review.
Answers all the stuff we want to know & brill presentation.
Really like the sound of the new Tiger.
Well done Triumph
Only one thing......
Seems to be a review of 2 bikes.
One very road focused.
One really off road focused.
Not sure how we can compare 2 specialist bike to the best selling all rounder Adventurer ( Yes I ride a GS)?
Out on ride today.
Came across Tiger Riider in middle of no where.
Major off road stuff me me & mate (I'm very average but it was proper off road for me)
He had road tires.
Wearing jeans.
Trainers.
T shirt.
Looked lost & in need of support.
"Wanna follow us"
"Naw"
"I'm ok"
Balls to match bike.
Top guy.
Really hope he made it.
Gotta buy a Tiger.
Ah ha maybe that’s Triumph’s cunning plan… although to be fair BMW do offer both adventure and non-adventure versions of the GS and ones with spoked wheels and ones without.
We have talked about the suspension, engine, chassis....but not once did you mention how comfortable it was (or wasn't). Which is why we buy big adventure bikes in the first place!
Valid point and one it’s tricky to answer until we get one in the UK for a long steady slog. Generally I’ve found that when you’re charging about in corners and fun roads most bikes manage to be comfortable- it needs a long slog back home at the end of the ride to really test that. The wind protection was pretty good, very stable and without much buffering for me at 5’8”. Vibes through the bars were my only real complaint.
@@chrisnorthover7582 Sounds like a plan Chris!! Can't wait for you guys to do a further review after putting some serious miles in the saddle!
I think you have a point about the fireing order may upset people ...great review!
Outstanding review ... 👏🏻 👍🏻
looks a great bit of kit,what tyres are they putting on the rally pro? and what were you using off road during the test?
Rally pro comes on Metzeler Karoo Street - surprisingly capable off Road as long as it’s dry - we rode off road on the approved tyre option which is the Michelin Anakee Wild.
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Great review as always!
I wonder what it is like fully loaded with luggage and pillion over a days riding? If it is a good as a GS in this respect and Triumph up the quality of their dealer back-up then I might just consider one.
great review! well done!
Great review Chris 👍
Nice review, engine heat used to be an issue, did they adress that?
They’ve done a lot to manage the flow of air and heat and it wasn’t a problem on the launch, although ambient temperatures were pretty mild around the 15 degC mark.
Thank you for great review with a real passion. It looks more natural to compare it to KTM 1290 SAS/SAR, than to GS, imho
What a review. Loved it.
Excellent review as always..
Offroad, do you ride with TC off to get the weel off the ground? Or is it ok in one of the riding modes?
I think 98% of us don't go that quick offroad.
Impressive!
I am in love with my Tiger900 GT PRO. Was hoping that 1200 will be looking more distinctive , not just like a bigger 900 :) Nonetheless still a great bike.
really enjoyed the review but wish you choose one model to do both off raod and on road. I like many others cannot afford to own two models of the same bike. would have liked to know bigger front wheel handled street riding and vice versa.