Hey guys sorry about the audio problems in the video with missing audio in sections not sure what happened if you want a more in-depth video on how the exhaust fans work and why they’re there you may enjoy this ruclips.net/video/uv8BTbXV5uQ/видео.html
As with Edwards. Simplex was spot on with their legacy systems but not so much with their later systems. When it comes to modern day choices best to stick with Honeywell; they know their stuff. Awesome video.
To be fair, Edwards is sort of making a comeback with their EST-4 platform. Way less buggy than the 3, and very backwards compatible. Their customer service is also obviously better than simplex, but that's a fairly low bar.
Yeah sometimes age doesn’t have that big of an impact on how nice the building is we are building two new schools in the district as of right now and they don’t seem as nice as this school and my school from 2015 100 million doesn’t get you as much now as it used to
@@nics-systems-electric agreed. Even where my dad works, the building is fairly nice. It even has stuff like a indoor pool, a bigger cafeteria, and a bigger Library (mine is tiny) which my school doesn't have those or its smaller and it was built in 1996-97.
@@SomeDudeWithAnExitSign definitely depends a lot more on budget and architect than it does on age there’s buildings from the 60s and 70s that seem extremely modern even today
They open them if it’s not super hot and just want fresh air but if it’s really hot it would just let the hot air in so you’ll be better off with the air conditioning
@Marc Leslie They only open if specific smoke detectors are activated so sure if you wanted to you could go out of it there’s nothing stopping you but it’s not meant for that as 90% of fire alarm conditions the door wouldn’t be open
@NIC'S - SYSTEMS & ELECTRIC those bay doors are very nice to the system and they will also allow firefighters to get their crosslay's inside the building in the event of a fire or a smoke emergency
I know simplex has their problems but there's just something about them that I love. Especially older Simplex. Have a lot of Mechanical horn strobes from them even branded in the original FOS/Faraday. I love the True alerts too though. My company installs Notifier which I do like. Honeywell definitely knows what they're doing.
There old products back in the day were good but now their company is terrible for any customer support or fixing their screwup’s and it’s pretty much scam
@@nics-systems-electric I blame Johnson Controls. They bought York (hvac manufacturer) and they went to hell. Like they actually suck. Perhaps thats the reason?
@@nics-systems-electricDoes Canada have a code regarding voice evac systems? In. The US here, if the building occupancy is 800+ you need a voice evac system.
Interesting system. There's some odd stuff going on with the sound in this video, there are times when the sound appears to be playing very slowly and it also sounds like you've got multiple sound files playing over each other, some playing at slow speed.
its using the newer simplex adressable pull! I do have a newer one of those but rotate the entire key lock as i hated how they changed direction of the keylock direction
Wish they had keyfobs for elevators when I was in school the Schindler elevators had key locks where the elevator call buttons would normally be but the school had to replace them either my second or third year with Medco momentary contact key switches because the original locks were able to be picked by students that wanted to use the elevator. And some of them would be douches and leave the lock in the on position so the elevators would get stuck on one of the floors until someone moved the lock back to the off position or it was called two a different floor but if your desired floor wasn't the one where the key was left to on unless you pressed it quick enough the elevator would immeidatley go to the floor with key switch left on
It’ll probably happen at the elevators in my school too kids weren’t picking them but would just get injured and get a key temporarily and then copy it and then they would put a key in the bottom and the top and both turned them on and the elevator would just go up and down all day long there was a student selling keys to lol. so they switched it to key fobs so students could get access to the elevator only temporarily and for the rest of the staff and trades departments that have all access can just use the elevator without a separate key which is nice
@@nics-systems-electric It's even easier to get keys copied now since those Robotic key duplicators have been put in so many retail locations. All of the Walmart locations I've been in which includes the one I worked at for almost 6 years as a cashier has them. It's called minute key. As long as you got the cash or the credit/debit card you can any key that isn't chipped or specialty duplicated. And since it's a robot it wouldn't question if someone came up to it and requested say 20 copies of a key made.
@@nics-systems-electric there was this one time during my 5th grade school year where we had a malfunctioning EST Genesis mechanical horn where it would go off and the horn would sound off and sound all choppy. So basically we had to deal with that every fire drill we had. It wasn’t until mid to late May when the school asked for a technician to install a new mechanical horn
@@nics-systems-electric Wait, this school or the other school. Cause the other elevator is different from this elevator. Plus the brand are not the same so there totally 2 different elevators. (sorry that I am talking so much elevator, but I do know your last elevator video did very well in my opinion)
6 per year minimum but my school usually doesn’t have to do all of them because of lots of false alarms this school in this video is probably a similar situation and we do hold and secure drill I don’t remember doing a lockdown but maybe I wasn’t there for it
@@nics-systems-electric my school is also going to have a fire drill idk what panel it is but I know its a notifier system with bg-12 lx's and specralert classics
Simplex U/ES systems are actually really nice. The only real problem with Simplex is the somewhat monopoly-like poor service when it comes to programming. Btw at points, it sounded like the audio got possessed by a demon lol
I saw the front of this school and I have to say I like the front better than the front of your school, but then I saw the back of this school and that just ruined the effect for me.
The 4006 is conventional a building like this needs a large addressable system with programmable logic zones as well as many nec circuits there is much much more to a system that determines what it requires then having voice capabilities which is not usually required for educational facilities
@@J19_vlogger74 Pretty much when they started seeing how far they can push making money versus quality service and products and they pushed it a little bit too hard and lost a lot of customers at least in Canada
Hey guys sorry about the audio problems in the video with missing audio in sections not sure what happened if you want a more in-depth video on how the exhaust fans work and why they’re there you may enjoy this ruclips.net/video/uv8BTbXV5uQ/видео.html
my editor does crap audio too. that's why i don't edit lol
It’s always videos on this school that the video goes wrong.
@@SomeDudeWithAnExitSign probably something to do with the Simplex messing it up
@@nics-systems-electric it started after you were standing underneath the fire exhaust fans
is this panel a non voice evac?
As with Edwards. Simplex was spot on with their legacy systems but not so much with their later systems. When it comes to modern day choices best to stick with Honeywell; they know their stuff. Awesome video.
Absolutely
To be fair, Edwards is sort of making a comeback with their EST-4 platform. Way less buggy than the 3, and very backwards compatible. Their customer service is also obviously better than simplex, but that's a fairly low bar.
That view looks very beautiful
Keep up the awesome content
Thank you
Keep up the great work!
Thanks
This actually looks nicer then my high school. Which was built in 2011 as a Middle school then expanded in 2021.
Yeah sometimes age doesn’t have that big of an impact on how nice the building is we are building two new schools in the district as of right now and they don’t seem as nice as this school and my school from 2015 100 million doesn’t get you as much now as it used to
@@nics-systems-electric agreed. Even where my dad works, the building is fairly nice. It even has stuff like a indoor pool, a bigger cafeteria, and a bigger Library (mine is tiny) which my school doesn't have those or its smaller and it was built in 1996-97.
@@SomeDudeWithAnExitSign definitely depends a lot more on budget and architect than it does on age there’s buildings from the 60s and 70s that seem extremely modern even today
SHUT UP GUYS!!!!
Nice!
those garage bay doors can also be used to cool the building fast as the controlls next to it can do it
They open them if it’s not super hot and just want fresh air but if it’s really hot it would just let the hot air in so you’ll be better off with the air conditioning
@Marc Leslie no
@Marc Leslie They only open if specific smoke detectors are activated so sure if you wanted to you could go out of it there’s nothing stopping you but it’s not meant for that as 90% of fire alarm conditions the door wouldn’t be open
You do such amazing videos I just made mines and I tagged you in it
@NIC'S - SYSTEMS & ELECTRIC those bay doors are very nice to the system and they will also allow firefighters to get their crosslay's inside the building in the event of a fire or a smoke emergency
They are on the back side of the school which isn’t accessible by any vehicles so it’s kind of on the wrong side for that
@@nics-systems-electric i could see the outlet on the roof at the start of the video for the fans.
I know simplex has their problems but there's just something about them that I love. Especially older Simplex. Have a lot of Mechanical horn strobes from them even branded in the original FOS/Faraday. I love the True alerts too though. My company installs Notifier which I do like. Honeywell definitely knows what they're doing.
There old products back in the day were good but now their company is terrible for any customer support or fixing their screwup’s and it’s pretty much scam
@@nics-systems-electric I blame Johnson Controls. They bought York (hvac manufacturer) and they went to hell. Like they actually suck. Perhaps thats the reason?
Simplex is famous for the Truealert series. The Simplex Truealert is a family of electronic devices that come with Horn, Chime, and Speaker Forms.
nice video keep up the work i love these videos do you like testing the alarms also how do you get to test alarms like this?
Omg finally simplex!!!
Unfortunately
Simplex is only good for their syncing solutions tbh
C'mon Simplex is awesome.
Awesome when their networks fail and doing a simple power cycle gets the panel stuck in a boot loop
If this school was in the USA, it would be crazy that it doesn’t have a Voice Evac System
Same with the school I go to it's even bigger than this one
@@nics-systems-electricDoes Canada have a code regarding voice evac systems? In. The US here, if the building occupancy is 800+ you need a voice evac system.
Looks like they either have a telecor or a rauland as an intercom/safety system...
Interesting system. There's some odd stuff going on with the sound in this video, there are times when the sound appears to be playing very slowly and it also sounds like you've got multiple sound files playing over each other, some playing at slow speed.
Yes there was problems rendering
The Newer Simplex Truealerts Are Flashing In Sync Luckily Those Ones Are Flashing In Sync Since They Are New
its using the newer simplex adressable pull! I do have a newer one of those but rotate the entire key lock as i hated how they changed direction of the keylock direction
Ya it goes the opposite way that you would think it would
@@nics-systems-electric Yes probably lots of people didnt like it as when they turn it left it doswnt turn and they have to turn right
Simplex used to be very nice, back in the day. Back in the late 90s' was when Simplex started changing for the worse
Wish they had keyfobs for elevators when I was in school the Schindler elevators had key locks where the elevator call buttons would normally be but the school had to replace them either my second or third year with Medco momentary contact key switches because the original locks were able to be picked by students that wanted to use the elevator. And some of them would be douches and leave the lock in the on position so the elevators would get stuck on one of the floors until someone moved the lock back to the off position or it was called two a different floor but if your desired floor wasn't the one where the key was left to on unless you pressed it quick enough the elevator would immeidatley go to the floor with key switch left on
It’ll probably happen at the elevators in my school too kids weren’t picking them but would just get injured and get a key temporarily and then copy it and then they would put a key in the bottom and the top and both turned them on and the elevator would just go up and down all day long there was a student selling keys to lol. so they switched it to key fobs so students could get access to the elevator only temporarily and for the rest of the staff and trades departments that have all access can just use the elevator without a separate key which is nice
@@nics-systems-electric It's even easier to get keys copied now since those Robotic key duplicators have been put in so many retail locations. All of the Walmart locations I've been in which includes the one I worked at for almost 6 years as a cashier has them. It's called minute key. As long as you got the cash or the credit/debit card you can any key that isn't chipped or specialty duplicated. And since it's a robot it wouldn't question if someone came up to it and requested say 20 copies of a key made.
Nice! Do you know if the true alert Es controller is a es ps or eps?
I not sure
I think the exhaust fans are upblast ones
What company do you hate the most when it comes to fire alarm, Simplex or Edwards (EST)?
Simplex at least with EST when it breaks there is a chance you won’t get ripped off and there may be someone in existence to fix it
@@nics-systems-electric there was this one time during my 5th grade school year where we had a malfunctioning EST Genesis mechanical horn where it would go off and the horn would sound off and sound all choppy. So basically we had to deal with that every fire drill we had. It wasn’t until mid to late May when the school asked for a technician to install a new mechanical horn
Oh can you test the ThyssenKrupp Elevator, and maybe even show the pump room? I can tell that this is a TK Signa4 or a Synergy
We did after the school was done when we went around and tested all of the elevators all of the heats at the bottoms and the smokes at the top
@@nics-systems-electric Wait, this school or the other school. Cause the other elevator is different from this elevator. Plus the brand are not the same so there totally 2 different elevators. (sorry that I am talking so much elevator, but I do know your last elevator video did very well in my opinion)
@@itzParty The last school I showed testing at and the school I made the elevator video at was at my high school this one is not my high school
07:00 Smoke exhaust test with Simplex Truealert ES horns sounding off
Nic the elevator is a Thyssen Krupp because of the floor passing beep that TK calls grocery store beep
what Time in the video ?
@@Casonplayz just watch the video duh
Why did the sounds keep getting muted on this video
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Oh no! Your worst nightmare, Simplex!!
Durability testing an entire schools system
@@nics-systems-electric you should do that if you get that schools system if they replace the system one day it would be good content
@@nics-systems-electric OH GOODNESS LOL
@@nics-systems-electric oh my gosh if you can make that happen that would be epic
I know this school I saw it before.
How many fire drills does your school do per year? For me it’s 8. And do you do lockdown drills in Canada
6 per year minimum but my school usually doesn’t have to do all of them because of lots of false alarms this school in this video is probably a similar situation and we do hold and secure drill I don’t remember doing a lockdown but maybe I wasn’t there for it
@@nics-systems-electric ok thx
You know what? School just started up yesterday for me, and at my high school on Friday, they are going to have a fire drill.
Nice
Oh I hate fire drills too loud lol
@@nics-systems-electric my school is also going to have a fire drill idk what panel it is but I know its a notifier system with bg-12 lx's and specralert classics
@@katiekennedy9214 i just plug my ears when i walk by an alarm and enjoy the strobes
@@J19_vlogger74 not me
Simplex U/ES systems are actually really nice. The only real problem with Simplex is the somewhat monopoly-like poor service when it comes to programming. Btw at points, it sounded like the audio got possessed by a demon lol
The demons got in my phone apparently
@@nics-systems-electric first ghosts in your system, now in your phone? i think simplex is haunting you lok
@@J19_vlogger74 lmao. Simplex rituals. 😆
I saw the front of this school and I have to say I like the front better than the front of your school, but then I saw the back of this school and that just ruined the effect for me.
4100ES is probably the only good fire alarm system Simplex has made
There older panels are great panels. Those 2001s,4001s,4002s,4004s,4005s, and 4010 are solid panels. We have to wait how the 2250FS and 2050FS goes.
Mid panel ngl
@@FireTech7 yeah I don’t like simplex
@@mewing-gawd I would rather have a Fire Lite panel instead, or a Notifier panel.
@@BukuiZhao Exactly
So they went with a 4100-ES and didn't go with voice Evac? You might as well go with a 4006.
The 4006 is conventional a building like this needs a large addressable system with programmable logic zones as well as many nec circuits there is much much more to a system that determines what it requires then having voice capabilities which is not usually required for educational facilities
Why does this school have audible silence?
Yes this was back when it was legal
i guess they like to break the law
*creepy af music playing in the background*
No just a audio problem when rendering
My school district strictly uses simplex which I hate. The system at my school always has like 14 troubles. Even the new schools use simplex!
That sucks time to change school districts I guess lol
@@nics-systems-electric Honestly it seems like every school district in the US uses simplex. Time to move to canada. 🤣
@@KanoaDeCastro there you go
@@KanoaDeCastro my school uses simplex, true alert and other Honeywell stuff aslo I think notifier and one other i live in the USA btw
4:37 !!!
What's up with Canada's hatred for strobes?
They just weren’t required in all or at least many please until the last few years
i respect your hatred for Simplex. Not everyone likes it.
Their stuff is kind of cool for a novelty factor it's just the service that is terrible
you will be mad at me for this, but somewhat like simplex. by that i mean i like 2 of their products. that's all
Other than being proprietary the products are OK the old stuff is definitely good it’s just more the company that is sketchy
@@nics-systems-electric yeah. I'd say the new products are what brought them out of business
@@J19_vlogger74 Pretty much when they started seeing how far they can push making money versus quality service and products and they pushed it a little bit too hard and lost a lot of customers at least in Canada
@@nics-systems-electric it' should be illegal to do that with life safety equipment. Quality is key
@@J19_vlogger74 yea unfortunately money has a lot of power
12:56 Do You Have Covid19
Probably not
Glad someone hates simplex as equally as I do 😎
It’s shit
@@nics-systems-electric very
Simplex bad
Notifier good
will they use notifier in future like replacement
I mean it could be 20 to 30 years but probably someday