@@sharsasuke01Mang0 definitely isn’t, but I would say Hbox is still trying, can’t even remember the last time I saw him play a character besides Puff in tournament
@@statisticallysound Nah, Hbox is fully ult content brained right now. He doesn't care much about melee except to show up. Furthermore he doesn't have a coach anymore with Crunch gone, which was a big part of why he dominated for 3 years.
He was a shoo in, it's been so fun watching him and Moky cause even as slight underdogs against certain players they could easily break through at any given tournament, I watch every match I can find with them
It’s cause there’s no big orgs to do as many tournaments. The complete dissolving of Panda completely devastated the entire Smash scene and honestly, if the grassroots locals can’t hold, I think we will actually see the slow death of Smash over time.
This is definitely the best edition of SSBMRank ever. The writing, photos, and overall polish in every aspect is just brilliant. I may be biased here, but I am really thankful to have such a well made project celebrating our community!
Cody has been a real one since day 1. He’s the reason I’m still in the scene after the Puff hate in 2018 got me to wanna leave. I was a nobody back then and he was a Rising Star, yet he still responded and encouraged me to stay. I couldn’t be more thrilled about his journey ❤ Edit: SPONSOR THIS MANS
The ranking is honestly pretty well put together with no placement feeling unnatural. Concistency, important h2hs, attendance and big wins were all fairly making an impact to finally encourage attending more for the top players. mang0, Hbox and aMSa are pretty much interchangeable on their positions and the top 5 just feels earned. The HM was the best way to handle Leffen's lack of attendance and i'm just so happy that Aklo and moky have debuted in the top cut. Looking forward to this new era of the game starting with Genesis!
I remember asking Cody on a nuzlocke stream he was doing what he felt he'd have to do to get number one and overtake Zain right after Smash Con, and he directky said that unless Zain flopped at an event or two, he didn't think it was possible for him to overtake Zain in the rankings... Then Big House happened, and Shine haopened. Suddenly, it was app possible and he didn't let the opportunity pass him by
Moky attended way more but imo plup should have been 4. He def could have won BH11 as well but moky was super consistently at majors so idk he earned it with his h2h I think.
No wins vs top 3 and played every other top player either 1 or 0 times except amsa and wizzy. Yeah he wont a major but if you actually look at who each player beat, Moky ahead isn’t really crazy. it’s mega close but Plup’s attendance hurts him a lot
2023 was such an exciting year for Melee. Jmook looking like the clear favorite at the very beginning, to Zain reasserting his dominance midway, to Cody just pulling up to give Zain the tightest race for #1, in their climatic FT10. 2024 Melee will be sick.
Great video as always. What are Cody's prospects for sponsorship? I know he gets support from the community as a streamer but I also remember him saying he would quit by the end of the year last year if he didn't get picked up. Has that changed?
"No I love Mike McCarthy he's the best. I think he's the best coach in football right now. We're onward and upward we're going to win it all next year." The best Skip quote in weeks. Skip's best quotes are when he make a quick side quip like that lol.
"Anyone can achieve their dreams if they put in the work." Correction. Anyone but Hax can achieve their dreams if they put in the work. If the TOs don't like you, they'll go on a BS political campaigns to cancel you from competing in tournaments. Fuck melee, its already dead.
@zachwatson8336 Hax had clear as day conditions to be slowly reintigrated into the scene, conditions that he and his local TO's both had an agreement on, local TOs who know him personally for about a decade now and told him not just once or twice that he should stop addressing his ban situation and just play Melee for now. He broke these obvious rules twice before he was perma banned with one of those ban appeal videos leading to such a ugly degree of mass harassment towards Leffen that he didn't feel safe entering Big House last year and the NYC Melee staff already being very much ready to pull the plug on Hax had he not apologized for it after they got various amounts of harassment too. I'm tired of this baseless conspiracies you people throw at human beings who you know little to nothing about so here's a constructive response for you if you care so much about Hax. "If TO's don't like you, they'll go on a BS political capaign to cancel you from competing tournaments." Question. Do you understand who Hax the person even is and why he got banned? He was one of the head TOs of the Tristate Melee scene and very close to the playerbase and other TOs for years as their star player until as he admitted himself the pandemic, a alcohol additiction and general depressive state of mind lead him to make these evidence.zip videos in the way they are. He had a fair point that Leffen was not really taking accountability of his past actions as a past bullying victim of his but took it way too far and turned this whole thing into a concerning schizophrenic conspiracy narrative with Leffen being some kind of super manipulator. Hax's close NYC circle aswell as generally every seperate TO team knew that he wasn't in the right state of mind during that time and that he could not be kept around others with a guarentee for safety and therefore, banned him. Spreading conspiracies about other community members with mental amounts of reaching and paranoia to harm the image of a player is a lot more of a political campaign than just keeping a player banned i would say so explain me how you're not holding onto a double standard that not even works in this situation. Hax was given a second chance from NYC Melee by getting allowed to participate in the local events again after he seemingly slowly woke up from his delusions but never cut and took back his conspiracy video's content and artifically forced himself to "show remorse" to get quickly reinstated and therefore the NYC TOs made the agreement that Hax would stop addressing the ban situation to his audience if he wanted to return. The only thing you can point the TOs at for is the slow speed that they operated on since every scene is run seperately and therefore this whole unban discussion situation took way too long. Hax made the most braindead choice with posting that ban appeal video, that brought up the whole situation again and talks for about 90% what Leffen all did wrong 10 years ago, instead of actually focusing more on why he himself is a positive influence that should be reinstated. One of the NYC Melee TOs was even at the weekly Nightclub tourney to discuss the perma ban and it's reasons with the local scene where this discussion belonged way more than it ever did on the internet for y'all parasocial fans who don't even know the man Aziz personally. Hax's ban appeals should have gone into the private DMs of the TO teams where they would be talking like adults instead of being these huge drama fueling public videos every time that push disgusting amounts of harassment towards these people. It's a TO's call on who gets to play at the tourney just like a club owner decides who's on the white or black list for the party and Hax's tendency to ignite controversy after controversy for the scene being disliked isn't some kind of mega corruption behind the curtains but just not welcomed by the majority of organizers at their events. Lastly people like you who keep spreading this unneeded drama made everything worse for Aziz's chances to be fully welcomed back and if you truly cared about his well being you would have accepted that all of this conspiracy bs has not been doing himself or anyone around him especially his local scene any good, kept your grypes with thing xyz to yourself in silence or would have answered with constructive criticism instead of spreading baseless assumptions and narratives around the web. If there wasn't a giant toxic audience that launched themselves at anyone related to this situation, this whole fiasco would have been so much easier for all the orginanizers who had a saying in this to accept Hax's return. Leffen sure deserved huge amounts of criticism but the overemotional, unconstructive and generally unhinged behavior you Hax people have shown time and time again to everyone from Leffen, TOs and other community headfigures has only soured real discourse in this scene. Reflect on your own behavior before you start pointing fingers at people who you only know from your computer screen. Nothing is simply black or white and it would greatly improve the community at large when actual respectful discussions happen again.
Mang0 and Hbox still making top 10 is insane. Those two ARE melee
And they aren't even trying as hard as they could.
@@sharsasuke01Mang0 definitely isn’t, but I would say Hbox is still trying, can’t even remember the last time I saw him play a character besides Puff in tournament
@@statisticallysound Nah, Hbox is fully ult content brained right now. He doesn't care much about melee except to show up. Furthermore he doesn't have a coach anymore with Crunch gone, which was a big part of why he dominated for 3 years.
@@sharsasuke01making Ult content don’t stop someone from trying his best
@@coccilecolloptere1391 Yes it does. If hes streaming ult all day when would he have time to practice melee?
AKLO DID IT. MBOI MADE IT TO TOP 10.
LETS GOOOO
He was a shoo in, it's been so fun watching him and Moky cause even as slight underdogs against certain players they could easily break through at any given tournament, I watch every match I can find with them
Call me bias but I'm still in awe of 2022. Never before in Melee were there 8 people that could win majors
Nah nah u right 2022 was peak
yeah 2022 is peak
I think the biggest reason anyone thought 2023 was boring was cause 2022 was just so much better than anything that could've followed it
It’s cause there’s no big orgs to do as many tournaments.
The complete dissolving of Panda completely devastated the entire Smash scene and honestly, if the grassroots locals can’t hold, I think we will actually see the slow death of Smash over time.
Worst part is it was going to have the greatest ending ever, and even though that got stolen from us, it was still sick
Top 10 should pack it up now, Crimsom Blur sweep this year
LOL
Crimson blur is goated at the game.
I'm talking about Slay the Spire, not Melee tho
Slime would like a word
This is definitely the best edition of SSBMRank ever. The writing, photos, and overall polish in every aspect is just brilliant. I may be biased here, but I am really thankful to have such a well made project celebrating our community!
YOU’RE the best edition of SSBMRank ever….
Cody has been a real one since day 1. He’s the reason I’m still in the scene after the Puff hate in 2018 got me to wanna leave. I was a nobody back then and he was a Rising Star, yet he still responded and encouraged me to stay. I couldn’t be more thrilled about his journey ❤
Edit: SPONSOR THIS MANS
The ranking is honestly pretty well put together with no placement feeling unnatural.
Concistency, important h2hs, attendance and big wins were all fairly making an impact to finally encourage attending more for the top players.
mang0, Hbox and aMSa are pretty much interchangeable on their positions and the top 5 just feels earned.
The HM was the best way to handle Leffen's lack of attendance and i'm just so happy that Aklo and moky have debuted in the top cut.
Looking forward to this new era of the game starting with Genesis!
I remember asking Cody on a nuzlocke stream he was doing what he felt he'd have to do to get number one and overtake Zain right after Smash Con, and he directky said that unless Zain flopped at an event or two, he didn't think it was possible for him to overtake Zain in the rankings... Then Big House happened, and Shine haopened. Suddenly, it was app possible and he didn't let the opportunity pass him by
Moky over plup feels werid to me
Yeah you should at least make it to grands if you’re gonna be ranked above someone who has won something
Clearly an attendance thing
Correct
If it helps, Moky beat Plup in their head to head
@@KingGregory27 that plus the fact that he's the only player with a positive record against Cody
Very well done video. What a great year for Melee
I had never even played a smash game in 2022. Fell in love with melee and ultimate in 2023 and it’s been awesome
Can someone explain the logic behind Plup ranking lower than Moky. Plup did win a major and Moky didn’t.
Moky attended way more but imo plup should have been 4. He def could have won BH11 as well but moky was super consistently at majors so idk he earned it with his h2h I think.
Head 2 head results were favored because of plups worse attendance
No wins vs top 3 and played every other top player either 1 or 0 times except amsa and wizzy. Yeah he wont a major but if you actually look at who each player beat, Moky ahead isn’t really crazy. it’s mega close but Plup’s attendance hurts him a lot
Moky didn’t even make grands all year lol
2023 was such an exciting year for Melee. Jmook looking like the clear favorite at the very beginning, to Zain reasserting his dominance midway, to Cody just pulling up to give Zain the tightest race for #1, in their climatic FT10. 2024 Melee will be sick.
The guard has truly changed at the top of the list. No five gods needed
GOOD RANKING
man whoever cooked the music hit the vibe for every player. i caught that amsa guitar solo 🔥🔥🔥
that was sick
Wizzy the GOAT Falcon, don't y'all forget it
The S2J slander is insane
@@thegamingguy1 What tournament did s2j win?
Very happy to see him back where he belongs, even during his periods of less attendance he's been a top 10 player skill-wise for a very long time imo
What about Isai?
The music choices for these players were God tier.
peak of melee was 2022 and last year for sure, hopefully the momentum can keep going for this year
Oh my god, he made it....
SMASH SUMMIT FORESAW THIS!!!!!!!
W
Great video as always. What are Cody's prospects for sponsorship? I know he gets support from the community as a streamer but I also remember him saying he would quit by the end of the year last year if he didn't get picked up. Has that changed?
Does anyone know what song was used for Zain?
I respect the table flip on trying to place Leff
Love to see the old gods still being a force to be reckoned with after all those years
"No I love Mike McCarthy he's the best. I think he's the best coach in football right now. We're onward and upward we're going to win it all next year." The best Skip quote in weeks. Skip's best quotes are when he make a quick side quip like that lol.
What a YEAR
Great job Walt
melee still and always goes hard
Top ten list below:
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1. Cody Schwab
2. Zain
3. Jmook
4. Moky
5. Plup
6. Amsa
7. Hungrybox
8. Mango
9. Wizzrobe
10. Aklo
Honorable Mention Leffen
11. MonumentalDong
Am I right in thinking this is the first time in over 15 years that none of the 5 gods are in the top 5
Cody schwab finally did it!! I knew he would!!
3:38 where the fuck can i buy wizzrobes hoodie?? lmao
damn that amsa with the guitar pic goes hard
No hate but why is hbox higher than mango when he has worse results
TDFW makes this kind of content so professional it’s a turnoff for me. I like his comedic content though
zain and cody's stats against other players are such a huge gap between the others, jeez
Can we have a ranking like tennis, or do we have to repeat this every year
we need schu stats to pull up like he does for ultimate lol
Moky is sick
There is so much more Melee to be played.
FRANCE MENTIONED WOOOO 02:12
First year a modded zjump controller has been number one
Edit: god some of those blurbs are so bad.
man i miss beyond the summit sm 😭😭
love this for them
33-11 against the top 10 is bonkers🤯
Cool way to do 1-10
There should be a "top 10 of all time" video. Ken will always be my #1
M2K has one
@@jameswhite2308it’s kinda outdated now cause it was in 2020, but it still has good arguments for every player
@@bladefox5082 It is a GOAT list, the only change would be to add Zain in somewhere
Zain not retired????
Rochester REPRESENT!!!!
Moky over Plup is kinda insane
Absolutely deranged. But half of the best players barely go to stuff. What can you do
Is that tdfw narrating?
obviously
no
THE HONORABLE MENTION SHOULD HAVE WENT TO AXE OVER LEFFEN.
Where's Hax?
Go Walt!
WALT IS EVERYWHERE
Lmao moky for 4th!!! is a joke bro . This guy literally lets his emotions play .
I love ibbw
Dont forget Hax F $
Hax is not in the top 100 despite his performance this year. This ranking is rigged.
Leffen top 5
If there's ever a 3rd Smash Doc...
ban leffen
"Anyone can achieve their dreams if they put in the work."
Correction. Anyone but Hax can achieve their dreams if they put in the work. If the TOs don't like you, they'll go on a BS political campaigns to cancel you from competing in tournaments.
Fuck melee, its already dead.
@zachwatson8336 Hax had clear as day conditions to be slowly reintigrated into the scene, conditions that he and his local TO's both had an agreement on, local TOs who know him personally for about a decade now and told him not just once or twice that he should stop addressing his ban situation and just play Melee for now.
He broke these obvious rules twice before he was perma banned with one of those ban appeal videos leading to such a ugly degree of mass harassment towards Leffen that he didn't feel safe entering Big House last year and the NYC Melee staff already being very much ready to pull the plug on Hax had he not apologized for it after they got various amounts of harassment too.
I'm tired of this baseless conspiracies you people throw at human beings who you know little to nothing about so here's a constructive response for you if you care so much about Hax.
"If TO's don't like you, they'll go on a BS political capaign to cancel you from competing tournaments."
Question. Do you understand who Hax the person even is and why he got banned?
He was one of the head TOs of the Tristate Melee scene and very close to the playerbase and other TOs for years as their star player until as he admitted himself the pandemic, a alcohol additiction and general depressive state of mind lead him to make these evidence.zip videos in the way they are.
He had a fair point that Leffen was not really taking accountability of his past actions as a past bullying victim of his but took it way too far and turned this whole thing into a concerning schizophrenic conspiracy narrative with Leffen being some kind of super manipulator.
Hax's close NYC circle aswell as generally every seperate TO team knew that he wasn't in the right state of mind during that time and that he could not be kept around others with a guarentee for safety and therefore, banned him.
Spreading conspiracies about other community members with mental amounts of reaching and paranoia to harm the image of a player is a lot more of a political campaign than just keeping a player banned i would say so explain me how you're not holding onto a double standard that not even works in this situation.
Hax was given a second chance from NYC Melee by getting allowed to participate in the local events again after he seemingly slowly woke up from his delusions but never cut and took back his conspiracy video's content and artifically forced himself to "show remorse" to get quickly reinstated and therefore the NYC TOs made the agreement that Hax would stop addressing the ban situation to his audience if he wanted to return.
The only thing you can point the TOs at for is the slow speed that they operated on since every scene is run seperately and therefore this whole unban discussion situation took way too long.
Hax made the most braindead choice with posting that ban appeal video, that brought up the whole situation again and talks for about 90% what Leffen all did wrong 10 years ago, instead of actually focusing more on why he himself is a positive influence that should be reinstated.
One of the NYC Melee TOs was even at the weekly Nightclub tourney to discuss the perma ban and it's reasons with the local scene where this discussion belonged way more than it ever did on the internet for y'all parasocial fans who don't even know the man Aziz personally.
Hax's ban appeals should have gone into the private DMs of the TO teams where they would be talking like adults instead of being these huge drama fueling public videos every time that push disgusting amounts of harassment towards these people.
It's a TO's call on who gets to play at the tourney just like a club owner decides who's on the white or black list for the party and Hax's tendency to ignite controversy after controversy for the scene being disliked isn't some kind of mega corruption behind the curtains but just not welcomed by the majority of organizers at their events.
Lastly people like you who keep spreading this unneeded drama made everything worse for Aziz's chances to be fully welcomed back and if you truly cared about his well being you would have accepted that all of this conspiracy bs has not been doing himself or anyone around him especially his local scene any good, kept your grypes with thing xyz to yourself in silence or would have answered with constructive criticism instead of spreading baseless assumptions and narratives around the web.
If there wasn't a giant toxic audience that launched themselves at anyone related to this situation, this whole fiasco would have been so much easier for all the orginanizers who had a saying in this to accept Hax's return.
Leffen sure deserved huge amounts of criticism but the overemotional, unconstructive and generally unhinged behavior you Hax people have shown time and time again to everyone from Leffen, TOs and other community headfigures has only soured real discourse in this scene.
Reflect on your own behavior before you start pointing fingers at people who you only know from your computer screen.
Nothing is simply black or white and it would greatly improve the community at large when actual respectful discussions happen again.
"anyone can achieve their dreams, unless they're weird as shit lmfao" get fucked bro stay mad
Don't care, Zain had a better year
Lll
Zain Nooooooo :( and its a Fox to make it worse
Ibdw is the worst thing to happen to melee
Mokey at 4th but hasnt won anything