We Polish people suffered a lot. Millions of Poles dies in the @nd World War. Huge numbers of Poles lost their lives in Auschwitz. Now, it's high time the Polish began to respect themselves and be proud of themselves, their history and nation.
Yes, but at least the Jewish problem in Poland was solved, this must give you some peace? Polish suffering is real and Jewish suffering is real. But it was different, 95% of Polish Jews were killed vs. 10% of Poles.
Pierwsza w nocy, rano "do fabryki" (dobrze, że zdalnie chociaż) a ja siedzę i ogladam jak dwóch Żydów się odnajduje w Polsce, chociaż jeden tylko z doskoku.. I w sumie nie żałuję 😁 Dużo prawdy w tym naszym, polskim szukaniu wspólnych naszych korzeni. Wy straciliście tamtą, dawną Polskę i próbujecie ją odnaleźć i my też ją straciliśmy, i też nam jej brakuje..
To Polożydzi :) Ja ostatnio odkryłem swoje niezbite bo genetyczne korzenie żydowskie :) Chociaż w pamięci rodzinnej nie było żydowskich członków :) I to po matce... czyli dogmatycznie.... jestem Żydem bardziej niż wielu Żydów zza oceanu [aż chichocze wewnątrz na myśl o tym jak opowiadam o tym jakiemuś polonofobicznemu ortodoksowi żydowskiemu ;p
I agree with you Michael, Jews as nation focused on such a traumatic history of their nation because of Holocaust just forgot about the joining history of our nations... We have a great history, you cannot simply wipe out 1k years of us being together. As mentioned on my previous comment, you are doing great job, hope your channel will get a great view and finally turn Jewish people mindset to think about their nation history not only about 2nd World War, but look before... there are lot of fields to discover... such a great conversation. Fair play to you both!
This thread is so interesting. I tell stories of our pre-Holocaust family, those I know, and am fascinated by generational lineage wisdom and blessings that get passed down, as well as trauma healing.
Tym razem napiszę po polsku. Ogólnie z wielu rozmów i wątków także dotyczących wspomnień wyłania się taki oto smutny obrazek, że Żydzi bardzo intensywnie nakłaniają Polaków do "rozliczania się ze swoją historią", "akceptowania swojej winy" itp. itd. szczególnie pod dyktando tej kuriozalnej propagandy zbudowanej wokół Jedwabnego czy Kielc. Tymczasem zupełnie jakby nie kultywują traumy wobec Niemców. Nie ma winy Niemców, jest wina jakichś Nazistów a ogólnie Niemcy to przecież dobrzy ludzie byli same Schindlery które co prawda zbijały kasę na niewolniczej pracy, ale ratowali swoich robotników przed zamianą w popiół. Jestem ciekaw czy przeciętny Żyd który wie coś o Jedwabnem i Kielcach - wie także o Babim Jarze? I czy zna skalę? Bo na razie wychodzi z tego, że Żydzi oczekują od innych pracy nad sobą, ale sami nie robią w zasadzie nic nad swoją edukacją. Cieszy bardzo, że Michael widzi sens w otwieraniu umysłów i budowaniu poprawnych relacji. Tylko nie da się tego zrobić mając taką ścianę niechęci po Żydowskiej stronie. Dobrze by było aby to się zmieniło, bo po polskiej stronie jest ewidentnie więcej dobrej woli
Mnie też zastanawia skąd ta nagła zmiana narracji. Od kilku lat mieliśmy do czynienie z apogeum, żądań, nienawiści oraz pretnsji wobec narodu polskiego. A tu nagle pojawiają się propagatorzy naszego kraju. Jest to szczególnie zastanawiające w kontekście obecnego konflikut izraelsko-palestyńskiego. Już kilka lat temu czytałem, że w wielu kręgach izraelskiego establiszmentu pojawiają się głosy, że emigracja do Izraela była błędęm i należało zostać w Europie. Mam wrażenie, że to jest takie samo promowanie nowej "ziemi obiecanej" jak przed IIWŚ promowano wyjazdy do Palestyny. Co do Niemców to oni się wykupili ale nie ot tak tylko zawarli z przedstawicielami Izraela porozumienie, że zbrodni dokonali naziści, a nie Niemcy. W taki oto sposób pieniądz zmył wszystkie grzechy narodu niemieckiego, które spłynęły na mityczny naród nazistowski... no i oczywiście tych strasznych Polaków... Smutne...
Wybacz, ale co jest kuriozalnego wokół prymitywnych typów z Polski Z zabijających sąsiadów, bo ktoś im powiedział, że macę z krwi dzieci robią? To było by tylko żałosne, gdyby nie było tragiczne. To *polscy* obywatele zabijali - czy chcesz, czy nie, idzie to na nasz rachunek.
@@ararabararato dlatego, że Polska zyskała dobry image w mediach z powodu sukcesu gospodarczego, a ostatnio z powodu pomocy Ukrainie. Wcześniej Polska miała image "Polski B": Kielce, Jedwabne, kradzieże w Niemczech itp.
Greetings from Poland! Thank You for Your love to the Jewishness of Polish culture. I’m Jewish, because my mother, grandmother are Jewish but because of the world war II my great grandmother left her daughter in Poland and flew to the USA…She was adopted by intellectuals family. Most of them generals ( two of her uncles died in squadron 303 - the battle of England as a pilots) I tried to search my jewish heritage but war destroyed everything. My fathers family was important in old times- Gajewski rhodium had a vibrant history from medieval period so it means a lot to me ❤ I love Poland 🇵🇱
Polish culture is steeped in the heroic Christian myth of death and rebirth. You have romantic concepts in Polish cultural identity of: "Poland as Christ of nations", "Prometeism" and "For our freedom and yours". I think it is this archetype of "death, sacrifice and rebirth" that imbues the Polish culture - is what makes the people appear more genuine. Polish people are taught to respect the sacrifices our ancestors made for our current freedom. To cherish and defend our culture, without being chauvinist or burdened with guilt. We are neither politicaly correct nor disrespectful. But are not afraid to talk about big things. We are not much into "mourning of the past". Or rather the way Polish people mourn is a romantic and dramatic idealist dream with an optimistic slant. Although in Polish culture Jewish people were often associated with pessimistic lamentation of the "unredeemed". And also of mystical wisdom. As for poetry an interesting tidbit i recommend is a song by a famous Polish bard Jacek Kaczmarski titled "Opowieść pewnego emigranta". A tragic tale of a Soviet/Polish Jew seeking spiritual reconciliation after the rollercoster of history.
Opowieść pewnego imigranta - Original Jacek Kaczmarski, translation Mateusz Wesołowski Fear not we won’t run out, this is Polish vodka You see, prior to war I was a communist For I wanted to be someone. For I was a Jew And if a Jew wasn’t someone than this Jew was no one Perhaps this one thing communists gave the world that people no longer call bankers and fiddlers “Ike” I wasn't a banker nor a virtuoso I survived the war in Russia, befriended the cold And on my two own feet I crossed the Bug Arm in arm with red army as a politruk I was like Moses caring new commandments on which we would set our reconstruction And then me, a loyal communist They retrained to be a manicurist I love Mozart, Bach to me is god But where I worked - only blood and fear I could sleep well listening to human screams But couldn’t fall asleep to the sounds of music As result of October’s so called “events” I was no longer a functionary, I was a journalist I knew languages, no need to teach me How to write straight, that which crooked follows lines And then a thought was born in my minds, by chance perhaps "Did I tie myself to this country in the worst possible ways?" For those disgraceful achievements - Warsaw or Cracow Comrade Gomulka told us “Poland for Poles” This republic isn’t for strays anymore! Wiesław - like the pharaoh - chased us away And off went professors, scholars and writers Off went functionaries and journalists in tow In Tel-Aviv one day, out of the blue, I ran into a colleague from my prison posting And it made me ashamed to pray by the western wall Am I a communist? A pole? Or a Jew? I couldn’t as he did, accept that glory Easily given to bankrupts elevated to heroes I left, came here to the States They say: “Teach Americans what communism was” “Tell them what you know, what’s on your conscience lies” “To atone for sins, and wash away the guilt” But I can’t even dress into words That built through the destruction we brought And so, I forged my own demise Melomaniac - not a fiddler Not a banker - but an interrogator Political commissar - not a Russian geroy Neither Zionist - nor a goy How will I tell Jehovah “Jahve Stand by my side”? Tied to this Poland by an umbilical cord of shame How will I tell Jehovah “Jahve Stand by my side”? Tied to this Poland by an umbilical cord of shame // Manicurist - prisoner slang from soviet prisons for the interrogators who ripped of fingernails. October’s so called “events” - death of Stalin, and his assigned polish prime minister, release of "On the Cult of Personality and Its Consequences", destalinization,
We as Polish people are proud of our history and we want to preserve it and Jewish culture was a big part of Poland and its history. Restoring that culture to Poland is vital in my opinion, it will only make the country culturally richer. I really appreciate your videos and your perspective on things. The future should bring us Poles, Jewish and otherwise together rather than split us apart. Educating Jews abroad about what today's Poland is like and dispelling the existing misconceptions is vital to restoring the broken ties.
Gdyby nie było tak licznej niezasymilowanej ludności żydowskiej w II RP, Niemcy robiliby „rozwiązanie kwestii żydowskiej” gdzie indziej, a nie na polskiej ziemi, i nie byłoby oskarżeń Polaków o antysemitzm, ani nie byłoby gangsterskich wymuszeń w rodzaju Act S447. Więc mów za siebie.
"Alte Haim" is a masterpiece, and authors are geniuses, both, Polish and Jewish. It time to finally finish mourning started by the late Shewah Weiss in 2003 and finish it with inspiring musical in 2023.
Dear Michael, when you've said that you feel more conected to Poland, Kraków something shocked me. I live in Gdansk and have very strong Kashubian roots and connections from my mothers side. My fathers side of family comes from small village near Trawniki and Lublin. My grandmothers memories from childehood were difficult, to say the least (Erntefest). But that is another story. As a child i've never been there, in that village. When I first visited i felt something really strange. I felt like ground under my feet was singing. That was so... physical. I realy dont know, to this day how to explain it. Like my body and mind could feel that i come home. And i think that you experienced the same thing. The calling of your roots, ancestry. ❤ So... welcome home❤
I have been exploring similar feelings of geographic connection. My Jewish family lived in Klobuck for generations. Dad survived the death march, mom in hiding in Warsaw. I’m in a Thomas Hubl east European community cohort. Some of us Jewish some not. Some of us live in Eastern Europe, some don’t. There are some remarkable resonances that occur, like we fill in pieces of others puzzles. Check out Thomas Hubl’s ancestral and collective trauma healing community
Jewish ppl were living in Poland for a centuries. Sometimes we did not agree but no one hurt anyone. They were Polish people, Polish Jews, they felt as much Jewish as Polish. They were fighting for Poland. Remember that.
Me as living in germany being from poland. My impression is talking about jewishness, jewish culture is kind a tabu for germans just out of fear that it is a very delicate thing and so they fear to act somehow wrong.. and out of ignorance about jewish culture..so i think jewish culture and jewishness is very seperated and kind of unpresent in the daily experience whereas in Poland.. i guess half of poles make jokes that „a your grandfather may be jewish“ or yeah you are aware of the history, of Lesmian and Tuwim, and about the polish heroes who risked their lives for jews.. and finally yeah the jewish influences in cities like krakow warsaw etc.
Very interesting video. Interview from time to time is a very good concept. I was thinking about suggesting this form to you. There are so many people you can talk to.
There used to be two types of Jews in Poland the Litwaks expelled Russian Jews without connection to Poland and Poles very distinct groups about their Polishness.
Guys you like to talk about Polish sins, please also talk about Jewish sins, namely Jewish communists who murdered thousands of Polish heroes right after the war. This was a massacre not comparable to Jedwabne. Please note also that Jedwabne has not been fully investigated as exhumations had been stopped once the proof of Germans' involements started to pop up - so it is not modest to talk about Jedwabne with your unproven assumptions on the Polish guilt in it.
We have a couple of things in common with the Jews, one is that we have emigrated for centuries, and there's someone who has Polish ancestors in every corner of the world. The other is that our history is full of pain, and we're identified with it. Let's not make it a competition... They suffered a lot, we suffered a lot, we suffered together with them and sometimes, we caused pain to each other. Let's try to write the next chapter now, hopefully one about communication and building bridges, hopefully one about peace and happiness.
I love the way the conversation went. I was reslly curious of why you came to Poland, what are your trying to find in the past. What future you want to build with that.
This is one of the most valuable conversations I have listened to recently. I am Polish, I lived in Krakow for 20 years, I have been living in Berlin for 18 months. Since I left, I started to really think about what I miss, about my identity, what Polishness actually means to me. I agree with you that Poles are wrapped in nostalgia and sentimentality. I would like Poland to stop being a museum of Jewish culture, but a place where Jewish life was reborn.
My daughter in Law is Polish. Not Catholic. JWitness background. Lovely girl. I have Arab connections so cannot be objective about Zionism or Israel. But an interesting interview.
I have nothing against Jews who don't practice Polonophobia. For hundreds of years, Poles and Jews lived side by side rather than together. Many of them turned out to be wonderful people, many became Polish patriots, while others gave in to Polonophobia -sometimes unjustifiably. These are not simple things. There is no real anti-Semitism in Poland however, I believe that the growing influence of the Chabad-Lubavitch sect should be stopped.
Let's not forget judeo communism which is denied by Jews as an antisemitic myth because it would go against their narrative as eternally innocent victimes.
Trauma of holocaust was make by german Nazi not Polish people. Ask Adam Michnik when he will be Apologize Polish citizen for His brother . And for you knowing you should be digging deeper why so many Jews serving in communist Political Police to fight Polish independence and freedom . For me as a Polish it’s trauma too be blame for something what I not do for Jews. Be accurate .
polska i niemiecka kultura to zupełnie inny świat nawet w tak wielokulturowym mieście jak Berlin. chyba trudno o większy kontrast w Europie między dwoma sąsiadującymi ze sobą narodami. no, może Finowie i Rosjanie :) na przestrzeni wieków wielu Niemców osiedlało się w Polsce (czy też pod zaborami), także w Krakowie i Warszawie, a jednak te kultury pozostały sobie w dużej części obce. Niemcy ulegali polonizacji, Polacy germanizacji i koniec.
1000 lat sąsiedztwa robi swoje. Nawet takie banalne reczy jak zwyczaje (np. choinka na Boże narodzenie) czy potrawy. Głębsze wpływy kulturowe też, np. w literaturze. Na pewno mamy ze sobą więcej wspólnego niż mniej ;P
@@tomaszgarbino2774 jak na 1000 lat sąsiedztwa i skalę migracji np do Warszawy w 19. wieku to wpływy są nieznaczne. oczywiście nazewnictwo przedmiotów, technologia itp. to jasne, ale np literatura francuska miała o niebo większy wpływ na polską literaturę niż niemiecka. jest wpływ np malarstwa z nurtu akademickiego, bo wielu polskich malarzy studiowało w Monachium, ale ja miałem na myśli głębszy wpływ niż samo know-how. wiadomo, że gotyk przyszedł od nas z terenów niemieckich, prawo magdeburskie, urbanistyka średniowiecznych miast..
@@tomaszgarbino2774 to trochę tak jakby powiedzieć, że Rosjanie się zamerykanizowali, bo przecież powszechnie oglądają filmy z Hollywood, piją coca-colę itp. Ale co z tego skoro mentalnie są bliżsi Wielkiej Ordzie niż ideałom amerykańskiej wolności
@@antekp2965 To stereotyp. Rosjanie byli superprowolnościowi na przełomie '80 i '90, potem przyszła smuta ale dopiero Putin rozpoczął propagandę która przebijała tą z ZSRR. Popatrz jak szybko Hitler przerobił Niemców, a Putin miał większe know-how, aparat i 3x więcej czasu.
@@peceed To nie stereotyp. Fakt że po upadku ZSRR była chwila wolności w Rosji ale Rosjanie bali się jej, utożsamiali ją z chaosem i bezladem. Potem przyszedł kolejny "ojczulek", Putin, który twardą ręką zaprowadził porządek za co Rosjanie są mu wdzięczni i go kochają. To jest naród z mentalem niewolników, głęboko patrymonialny. Jak ciągłe powtarza moja rosyjska znajoma, Rosjanie wolności nie znają, nie rozumieją, nie potrzebują i gdyby ją dostali, nie wiedzieliby co z nią zrobić. Stosunek do wolności jest moim zdaniem zasadniczą różnicą między nami a nimi.
Honestly, I prefer shorter materials, as I often don't have much time to watch everything I would like. But this interview was very interesting and after all I neglected my work to watch it at once 😁
It would be interesting to know the Israelis' opinions on Poland. I have no clue what they think, but I remember that once at orthodox shop in Mea Shaerim district the shop keeper asked me where do I come from and I was worried for a second what would be his reaction (would he throw a stone on me or smth) but he's reaction was positive, strangely enough...
I work with Israelis and the vast majority of them have been really nice. They are all academics though meaning potentially more open-minded. One of them is a historian, originally from Austria. We discussed the Holocaust a little bit, he told me that as long as Poland is concerned there were, I'm quoting, "very positive and very negative behaviors from the Poles". In general I find them friendly, easy-going and with great sense of humor.
Thank you for smiling when talking about Poland 😊 🇵🇱. It’s rare to see, considering that most Jewish people still have Holocaust trauma. Polish people who survived the war had terrible PTSDs also, yet the new generation has managed to overcome the negative and is making the future look bright. I think that it’s nice that some Jewish communities like in Kazimierz/Krakow are starting to come back in a nice way.
Dear Michael, I am not Jewish but thanks to George Santos, I am rather Jew-ish'1nnI grew up in Idaho so only know one Jew , I knew was Jewish because I mowed the big lawn in front of his bi house I really agreed with you about you explanation n about the Israel/Hamas dilemma. I am sending you this article I wrote that I hop doesn't offend you but amuses you:
As a Pole I believe that restoring Jewish culture is important for us. Some might ask why? Because this culture has been a part of Polish culture for ages. Half of Polish nation has a Jewish DNA so... it's simply natural. That's all. Everything was simple until the wars started....
Very interesting conversation, thank you for posting, it is giving me insights into Poland. I am curious if either one of you were able to get citizenship in Poland or Germany b/c of your ancstry. If you grandmother was born there I'm guessing she left after Poland became a country around 1920, so she was a citizen, thus giving you a direct connection to getting citizenship. I know this can be a sensitive topic, so if so I understand. Going to Poland next month for first time in my family lineage in about 150 years, going to be interesting. Shalom to your both, peace from China.
The full extent of Polish, Slavic, as well as Jewish and Polish Jewish culture, needs to be retold from an unbiased and truthful perspective. There is so much more positive than the actual tragic negativity that happened in the middle of 20th century. While remembering these horrifying events, we need to build on the positive because the Polish culture as well as Polish Jewish Jewish culture in Poland throughout centuries, has so much more to offer.
Nie wszyscy, ja jestem realistką i wiem, że porozumienie z całą nacją już jest niemożliwe, ale na gruncie prywatnym to już zależy od poszczególnych ludzi!!!
Very interesting conversation. I appreciate your efforts for rebuilding ties between our nations. As a fellow Kraków citizen I always felt void left by Jews after the war. I think we need at least some of it back.
BuIIshit. The Jews in Jedwabne were killed by *our citizens* . Whether we like it or not, Jedwabne and the tragicomic pogrom in Kielce (because they believed Jews killed Christian babies) goes on us.
How on earth can you justify saying this. There is no evidence of this, plus Poland officially recognizes it as a Polish crime. Stop this stupidity, please, it is horrible for the image of Poland and Polish people.
@@lerubenfeld I disagree with Rabbi Shudrih about the excumation of the victims of Jedwabne. His reason was that it is against Judaism to dig up dead members of the faith under any circumstances. No religion should stop any research. Especially historical research.
Mnie juź nużą te ciągłe przepychanki, kto zawinił, ile jest ktoś komuś winien, jak kiedyś było i do czego to wszystko doprowadziło!!! Od tego się zaczyna, że ktoś nieźle mąci, kręci i kłamie o stosunkach polsko-żydowskich, przypuszczam, że to Chabat Lubawicz, więc z takim podejściem do tematu i w takich warunkach "dialogu" nie ma szans na porozumienie. Tym bardziej zaprzepaszczono jakąkolwiek możliwość na utworzenie jakiejś wspólnej społeczności, bo to za daleko już zabrnęlo a teraz jeszcze ta wojna i izraelskie "podejście" do Polestyńczyków, dopełniły czarę goryczy!!! Ja już nie chcę się tłumaczyć, ani przepraszać, ani być wplątywana w te narodowościowe zagrywki polityczne i nie chcę poznawać "prawdy", ja naprawdę jestem tym wszystkim zmęczona i popieram radykalne rozwiązania i wyjaśnienia nieporozumień, jakie zastosował Pan Braun, czyli oddcięcie się całkowite od tego tematu!!! Polacy już nie chcą więcej udowadniać, że nie są wielbłądami!!!
Zastanawiające jest że Żydzi nie kajaja się za żydokomune zarówno tą przedwojenną jak i powojenną , wręcz wciskają ciemotę że to antysemicki mit. Więc zamiast tłumaczyc się że się nie jest wielblądem niech się żydzi tłumaczą z swojej przeszłości. Żydzi nigdy się nie przyznają bo to idzie wbrew ich globalnej narracji o byciu niewinnymi ofiarami.
They are just auto captioned. I contemplated going through and editing them all, but it would have taken far too long -- so I just accepted that there would be errors, but it will still be useful/helpful for some people.
Thank you for sharing this interview! Its very interesting to see the Jewish perspective on our shared history. I would definitely agree that there is a need on the Polish non-Jewish side to reconcile our history and culture.
If u want to live in Poland and want to be respected and welcomed, u must follow the following simple rules: 1) Respect the Polish history. (Generations of Poles have given their lives for the freedom of Poland and the Jewish community is a part of the Polish history.) 2) Respect the Polish customs. 3) Respect the Polish tradition. (the Polish tradition is thousand years old and the Jewish community is a part of the Polish tradition.) 4) Be loyal to Poland. 5) Take care of the Polish state, because Poland is our common good. 6) Don't kill, don't rape, don't cheat, don't lie, don't steal, don't insult others, don't hurt others 7) Be polite, help people who need your help. 8) Help Polish people to protect their country. Respect Polish soldiers, police and firefighters. 9) Don't take narcotics. Drinking vodka is commonly acceptable in Poland, but if you lose your family, money, job ... because you are an alcoholic, you will be despised. 10) Take care of the environment.(30% territory of Poland is a forest. 80% of forests lakes, rivers etc is owned by the Polish State and is FULLY OPENED FOR ALL POLISH PEOPLE!!! TAKE CARE of this COMMON TREASURE!!!!!!) If you follow the rules above, you have 100% guarantee, that you will be respected in Poland no matter the colour of you skin, race, religion, gender or nationality. You can be a part of Poland no matter where are you from. This is a part of the Polish tradition. If you are not able to follow the rules above, Poland is not a place for you.
Sounds like some old generation forgot that what happened in POLAND during WWII was done by the Germans, so I do NOT understand their bad attitude towards POLAND.
ANTISEMITISM November 29, 2022 I am from a small town in Idaho. When I was twelve I got a paper route and also made money mowing lawns. One of my customers was Mr. Cohen. He had a small shop selling furs downtown that must have been successful as his home was in an area known for the upper class. He had a big lawn that I mowed with a push mower so you know it was a while ago. We never conversed, just collected my dues. So I never knew anything except that he was Jewish. There was another singular ethnic person in our town and he was an African American. He had a tiny slot on Main Street that held his shoe shine shop. My Dad told me he was called the “mayor” as he had to usher others of his race to the other side of town with instructions to keep moving on. Proud Americans? So, I want to get to the issue of this paper. Jewish people have faced discrimination, hatred and endless, incredible, violent treatment for as long as they have existed. They have been persecuted since the birth of Jesus as they do not accept him as the savior and the Christians just cannot accept that. You may disagree, call me crazy but it is my idea the problem is..THE MOTHERS! The very survival of the Jewish people has been tough for them for ages. How have they not only survived but even prospered. Why? I contend that it is because of their mothers. Mothers insist on excellence from their sons. Their daughters too but the sons have had more opportunity and responsibility. No matter what field, law, finance, medicine, music, show business, even art, their sons must excel. They must not accept less than the best marks, the top grades. And they have achieved those goals. Jewish men have prospered in so many directions. They can be very tough businessmen, like in the textile world on the East Coast. Brutal at times, taking advantage of young children, working them long hours in miserable conditions for as little pay as they could squeeze. This all came from endless years of the challenge for Jews to just exist, to survive. Christians grew up with jealousy. Their god says, “Thou shalt not have any gods before me!” So, they can easily be jealous of their successful Jewish brethren. In the Buddhist teachings there are four illimitables One of them is mudita, sympathetic joy. That is the pleasure one has in the success of others. It is not a feature of Christianity as proven by The Crusades and the Insurrection where the plan was to make every one believe like me or die. That can be lead to such conflagrations as Kristallnacht where enraged Germans destroyed hundreds of Jewish shops. Which lead to the absolute abomination of humanity, the Holocaust. The world has had much abominable genocide from every quarter but that is not what this is about. Jewish men have succeeded immensely and made personal fortunes but they have also created tremendous (a 45 word!) wealth for many nations. If there is any blame, it must go to the men but if there is any glory, it must go to the MOTHERS
No, of course not, there is always tension between large communities of different background, like the Palestinians and Jews now in Israel for example. But somehow I doubt they hated Poles more then the Nazis let say. @@ipodman1910
A little late, but still, congratulations on seeing it! Meanwhile, I will not explain my opinion, I will simply write this: The Jews who settled en masse in medieval Poland called the land (which welcomed them when they were brutally expelled from Western Europe) POLIN (meaning: here you will rest safely). Best regards to both gentlemen...
Why is editing of this film so sloppy? You force us to watch close captioning that is 70% accurate. If you force somebody to read the captioning it should be edited to the actual words that you’re saying not that nonsense that appears over there at the bottom of the screen.
Dziękuję za ten wywiad, jest niezwykle ważny również dla nas Polaków. Wspaniale się Was słuchało, tyle ciekawych wątków i tematów do dyskusji i przemyśleń. Pozdrowienia dla Was obu ❤
A quick question on the margin. As you actively seek for reconciliation between Poles and Jews are you willing to claim responsibility for the massive Jewish collaboration with Bolsheviks.
I was born in Łódź, Poland. Although I have no Jewish ancestry there are number of traditions continued in my family, adopted by my grandparents from its Jewish neighbours. Specially food. It is fascinating Jewish tradition survived so many generations in non Jew family.
"Cinnamon Shops" by Bruno Schulz and "The Trial" by Kafka are required reading in high school. Each of us knows Tuwim's poem "The Locomotive". I have the impression that the "besieged fortress" policy used by the Jews is doing them an incredible disservice because they have "erased" 800 years of history on Polish lands. It is obvious to us because we learn it because it is part of our history, culture and art.
@@peterkiedron8949 I can think of a thousand reasons but just to pick one- to write more fantastic children books, did you know that Brzechwa or Tuwim were Jewish? So our childhood was partly shaped by the Jews :)
LOL Poland needs good people and those both are smart and seemingly also good people, so be welcome, but calling people to come to Poland because of their ethnicity especially if this is not Polish ethnicity it's an insanity
@@wielebna444 Neither Brzechwa nor Tuwim were obsessed with their Jewishness while clearly this guy from Canada is pathologically obsessed with his Jewishness and has zero connection to Poland.
You are wrong if you think that Poles lack Jewish culture. There were about 3 million Jews in pre-war Poland, but the problem was that although they lived among us, they were a foreign element in Poland and did not assimilate in Poland. They created their own enclaves, living among their own people, and often they could live their entire lives without even knowing the Polish language. In Poland, Jews have no sympathy among Poles, although no one will do any harm to a Jew and this results from history, especially modern history, because Poles associate them with the introduction of communism and murders of patriots and soldiers of the underground army and those fighting in the West, torturing and murdering them. by the security office where 90 percent were Jews. But also today the state of Israel pursues a policy of slandering Poles, equating Germans with Poland in responsibility for the murder of Jews. Poland was in the same situation as the Jews. Hitler's Germans were to destroy the Jewish nation and after the Jews, the Poles were to be destroyed. But Jews show off their own tragedy too much without seeing the tragedy of other nations.
Avant la guerre, et depuis le Moyen Age, c'est en Pologne qu'il y avait la plus grande communauté juive en Europe; c'était aussi cité comme exemple d'ouverture et pendant des siècles, la cohabitation s'est remarquablement bien passée. Puis l'Allemange a envahi la Pologne et commis les Pogroms contre les juifs. Cette horreur s'est passée effectivement en Pologne, mais c'est de l'entière responsabilité de l'Allemagne nazie; aujourd'hui, la communauté juive associe le Pologne à toutes ces horreurs, mais s'ils devaient en vouloir à un pays, ce n'est évidemment pas à la Pologne, mais à l'Allemagne...
Mam małe ale do Michała...... Wymagasz by zacząć uwzględniać Żydów w Polskich organizacjach żydowskich czy iwentach artystycznych..... Ale by zacząć ich uwzględniać to najpierw niech się te osoby nauczą Polskiego..... Bo żeby zrozumieć kulturę i sztukę Polską i być jej częścią przedewszystkim trzeba znać język Polski !!!! Niestety Michale to trochę brzmi chipokryzją wymagać od kogoś by Cię zapraszał do tworzenia treści Polsko/Żydowskich..... Nie znając dobrze języka..... Przecież możesz sam stworzyć własną organizację i własne iwenty artystyczne a nie domagasz się by Cię do nich wpuszczono ( lub kogoś innego tylko dlatego że jesteś Żydem) . Uważam że osoby które nie znają języka Polskiego nie mają prawa niczego żądać!!!! ( Michale jesteś już chyba 6 lat w Polsce a nie znasz dobrze języka..... albo to jest lenistwo i brak chęci do nauki .... albo Niestety jest to ściema że kochasz tak Polskę..... )
@Michael - how do you feel in the city of Lodz? To me this is the most Jewish place in Poland actually. Even if not that old one as Krakow. Jews was for poor Jews mostly while Lodz is a place where they florished economically in the 19 century.
Kochany Michaelu, Jest moim marzeniem, żeby dużo ludzi żydowskiego pochodzenia i ich potomków wróciło do Polski i było polskimi Żydami. No i oczywiście żeby nasze narody były jednym. Dziękuję że się do tego przyczyniasz. Mieszkam w Niemczech od 30 lat jestem szczęśliwa widząc jak dobrze można się z innymi narodami zrozumieć. To co robisz to nie tylko przyjaźń między ludźmi i narodami ale przede wszystkim pokój!
Strange, I'd never present myself as Polish Christian, I say Im Polish. But Jews cant be just Canadian or American. They always are Jews first. Mabye this is the better way to defend ones culture.
When one Polish Jew hits another Polish Jew, the media will report it as "An antisemitic Pole attacks a Jew". Jews are smart, always placing themselves on the victim side. Look at what Israel is doing now. They're bombing the living daylights out of Gazans, yet keep saying they are fighting Nazis! Even though when you look at the Gaza wasteland, you immediately think of 1944 Warsaw after the German bombing in reprisal for the 1944 Warsaw Uprising. Why, I don't even have to hypothesize! A woman ran into Grzegorz Braun while he was wielding an activated dry-powder fire extinguisher, started to pull at his arm which resulted in her face getting sprayed with the powder. Guess what the media said. It was all along the lines of "In a fit of antisemitic rage Braun attacks a woman who celebrated Hanukkah and sprays her face with dry powder". Exhibit A. Case closed.
Under the law, a Polish citizen is a Polish citizen, regardless whether they are Jewish or Christian. How each person decides to identify themselves though, is up to them. You can define yourself as a Polish Christian if you want, just like a Polish Jewish person can identify as Polish Jewish. I don't see the problem, as long as we don't distinguish between people under the law.
Jews will return to Poland, there is something in Poland, something very valuable. More valuable than gold or wealth. We will rebuild the Polish Hussars, we will shock the world, the prophecies will become true.
Living for centuries in Poland why Jewish population never learn Polish language?and then you say that people did not accept you?In Canada and USA every Jewish, person speak the language of the country including Quebec french!!!!!
You are wrong about basically everything you said. Many Jews spoke Polish, including my entire family. Also most Canadians don’t speak French. Nice try though maybe do a bit more research.
I like Poland too, but I would never live there. It's too unpredictable and for a long time, it must end badly for people representing minorities ... and Germany? My Lord, I don't want to go there for a vacation, let alone live in Germany. Having said that Poland has cool film and theatre traditions that further spread into the United States and other countries. I liked your interview! You guys are definitely braver than me. I hope I see your play at some point.
@@iskaiska6505 please go to Wikipedia ,Early history to Golden Age: 966-1572 history of Polish Jews ...I am also discovering more history and dit is fascinating how little we know and how our ignorance is weaponized for political gaines .best regards
We Polish people suffered a lot. Millions of Poles dies in the @nd World War. Huge numbers of Poles lost their lives in Auschwitz. Now, it's high time the Polish began to respect themselves and be proud of themselves, their history and nation.
Yes, but at least the Jewish problem in Poland was solved, this must give you some peace? Polish suffering is real and Jewish suffering is real. But it was different, 95% of Polish Jews were killed vs. 10% of Poles.
Pierwsza w nocy, rano "do fabryki" (dobrze, że zdalnie chociaż) a ja siedzę i ogladam jak dwóch Żydów się odnajduje w Polsce, chociaż jeden tylko z doskoku..
I w sumie nie żałuję 😁
Dużo prawdy w tym naszym, polskim szukaniu wspólnych naszych korzeni.
Wy straciliście tamtą, dawną Polskę i próbujecie ją odnaleźć i my też ją straciliśmy, i też nam jej brakuje..
To Polożydzi :) Ja ostatnio odkryłem swoje niezbite bo genetyczne korzenie żydowskie :) Chociaż w pamięci rodzinnej nie było żydowskich członków :) I to po matce... czyli dogmatycznie.... jestem Żydem bardziej niż wielu Żydów zza oceanu [aż chichocze wewnątrz na myśl o tym jak opowiadam o tym jakiemuś polonofobicznemu ortodoksowi żydowskiemu ;p
dobre
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Ty mówisz odnajdują, ja mówię czmychają od syfu do którego się przyczynili
I agree with you Michael, Jews as nation focused on such a traumatic history of their nation because of Holocaust just forgot about the joining history of our nations... We have a great history, you cannot simply wipe out 1k years of us being together. As mentioned on my previous comment, you are doing great job, hope your channel will get a great view and finally turn Jewish people mindset to think about their nation history not only about 2nd World War, but look before... there are lot of fields to discover... such a great conversation. Fair play to you both!
Jakie leki bierzesz bo nie działają żydzi zawsze Polskę nienawidzili pokazali to 1939
This thread is so interesting. I tell stories of our pre-Holocaust family, those I know, and am fascinated by generational lineage wisdom and blessings that get passed down, as well as trauma healing.
A very interesting conversation! I appreciated its thoughtful and serious tone.
Tym razem napiszę po polsku. Ogólnie z wielu rozmów i wątków także dotyczących wspomnień wyłania się taki oto smutny obrazek, że Żydzi bardzo intensywnie nakłaniają Polaków do "rozliczania się ze swoją historią", "akceptowania swojej winy" itp. itd. szczególnie pod dyktando tej kuriozalnej propagandy zbudowanej wokół Jedwabnego czy Kielc. Tymczasem zupełnie jakby nie kultywują traumy wobec Niemców. Nie ma winy Niemców, jest wina jakichś Nazistów a ogólnie Niemcy to przecież dobrzy ludzie byli same Schindlery które co prawda zbijały kasę na niewolniczej pracy, ale ratowali swoich robotników przed zamianą w popiół. Jestem ciekaw czy przeciętny Żyd który wie coś o Jedwabnem i Kielcach - wie także o Babim Jarze? I czy zna skalę? Bo na razie wychodzi z tego, że Żydzi oczekują od innych pracy nad sobą, ale sami nie robią w zasadzie nic nad swoją edukacją. Cieszy bardzo, że Michael widzi sens w otwieraniu umysłów i budowaniu poprawnych relacji. Tylko nie da się tego zrobić mając taką ścianę niechęci po Żydowskiej stronie. Dobrze by było aby to się zmieniło, bo po polskiej stronie jest ewidentnie więcej dobrej woli
No wreszcie jakis sensowny komentarz. Trochę realizmu i refleksji nad samym sobą dla obu Panow by sie przydalo.
Mnie też zastanawia skąd ta nagła zmiana narracji. Od kilku lat mieliśmy do czynienie z apogeum, żądań, nienawiści oraz pretnsji wobec narodu polskiego. A tu nagle pojawiają się propagatorzy naszego kraju. Jest to szczególnie zastanawiające w kontekście obecnego konflikut izraelsko-palestyńskiego. Już kilka lat temu czytałem, że w wielu kręgach izraelskiego establiszmentu pojawiają się głosy, że emigracja do Izraela była błędęm i należało zostać w Europie. Mam wrażenie, że to jest takie samo promowanie nowej "ziemi obiecanej" jak przed IIWŚ promowano wyjazdy do Palestyny.
Co do Niemców to oni się wykupili ale nie ot tak tylko zawarli z przedstawicielami Izraela porozumienie, że zbrodni dokonali naziści, a nie Niemcy. W taki oto sposób pieniądz zmył wszystkie grzechy narodu niemieckiego, które spłynęły na mityczny naród nazistowski... no i oczywiście tych strasznych Polaków...
Smutne...
Kat - ofiara. Żydzi - Palestyna.
Wybacz, ale co jest kuriozalnego wokół prymitywnych typów z Polski Z zabijających sąsiadów, bo ktoś im powiedział, że macę z krwi dzieci robią?
To było by tylko żałosne, gdyby nie było tragiczne. To *polscy* obywatele zabijali - czy chcesz, czy nie, idzie to na nasz rachunek.
@@ararabararato dlatego, że Polska zyskała dobry image w mediach z powodu sukcesu gospodarczego, a ostatnio z powodu pomocy Ukrainie.
Wcześniej Polska miała image "Polski B": Kielce, Jedwabne, kradzieże w Niemczech itp.
Greetings from Poland! Thank You for Your love to the Jewishness of Polish culture. I’m Jewish, because my mother, grandmother are Jewish but because of the world war II my great grandmother left her daughter in Poland and flew to the USA…She was adopted by intellectuals family. Most of them generals ( two of her uncles died in squadron 303 - the battle of England as a pilots) I tried to search my jewish heritage but war destroyed everything. My fathers family was important in old times- Gajewski rhodium had a vibrant history from medieval period so it means a lot to me ❤
I love Poland 🇵🇱
Polish culture is steeped in the heroic Christian myth of death and rebirth. You have romantic concepts in Polish cultural identity of: "Poland as Christ of nations", "Prometeism" and "For our freedom and yours". I think it is this archetype of "death, sacrifice and rebirth" that imbues the Polish culture - is what makes the people appear more genuine. Polish people are taught to respect the sacrifices our ancestors made for our current freedom. To cherish and defend our culture, without being chauvinist or burdened with guilt. We are neither politicaly correct nor disrespectful. But are not afraid to talk about big things.
We are not much into "mourning of the past". Or rather the way Polish people mourn is a romantic and dramatic idealist dream with an optimistic slant. Although in Polish culture Jewish people were often associated with pessimistic lamentation of the "unredeemed". And also of mystical wisdom.
As for poetry an interesting tidbit i recommend is a song by a famous Polish bard Jacek Kaczmarski titled "Opowieść pewnego emigranta". A tragic tale of a Soviet/Polish Jew seeking spiritual reconciliation after the rollercoster of history.
Opowieść pewnego imigranta - Original Jacek Kaczmarski, translation Mateusz Wesołowski
Fear not we won’t run out, this is Polish vodka
You see, prior to war I was a communist
For I wanted to be someone. For I was a Jew
And if a Jew wasn’t someone than this Jew was no one
Perhaps this one thing communists gave the world
that people no longer call bankers and fiddlers “Ike”
I wasn't a banker nor a virtuoso
I survived the war in Russia, befriended the cold
And on my two own feet I crossed the Bug
Arm in arm with red army as a politruk
I was like Moses caring new commandments
on which we would set our reconstruction
And then me, a loyal communist
They retrained to be a manicurist
I love Mozart, Bach to me is god
But where I worked - only blood and fear
I could sleep well listening to human screams
But couldn’t fall asleep to the sounds of music
As result of October’s so called “events”
I was no longer a functionary, I was a journalist
I knew languages, no need to teach me
How to write straight, that which crooked follows lines
And then a thought was born in my minds, by chance perhaps
"Did I tie myself to this country in the worst possible ways?"
For those disgraceful achievements - Warsaw or Cracow
Comrade Gomulka told us “Poland for Poles”
This republic isn’t for strays anymore!
Wiesław - like the pharaoh - chased us away
And off went professors, scholars and writers
Off went functionaries and journalists in tow
In Tel-Aviv one day, out of the blue, I ran into a colleague from my prison posting
And it made me ashamed to pray by the western wall
Am I a communist? A pole? Or a Jew?
I couldn’t as he did, accept that glory
Easily given to bankrupts elevated to heroes
I left, came here to the States
They say: “Teach Americans what communism was”
“Tell them what you know, what’s on your conscience lies”
“To atone for sins, and wash away the guilt”
But I can’t even dress into words
That built through the destruction we brought
And so, I forged my own demise
Melomaniac - not a fiddler
Not a banker - but an interrogator
Political commissar - not a Russian geroy
Neither Zionist - nor a goy
How will I tell Jehovah “Jahve Stand by my side”?
Tied to this Poland by an umbilical cord of shame
How will I tell Jehovah “Jahve Stand by my side”?
Tied to this Poland by an umbilical cord of shame
//
Manicurist - prisoner slang from soviet prisons for the interrogators who ripped of fingernails.
October’s so called “events” - death of Stalin, and his assigned polish prime minister, release of "On the Cult of Personality and Its Consequences", destalinization,
We were taught those myths, but who believes them?
Do *you* believe the rebirth myth?
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Its deeper than a belief.
Even if you reject it it is the framework that you view the world through.
I completely agree, every nation has things to be proud of and just as many things to be ashamed of, we're no different.
Catholicism is not the myth that's reality
We as Polish people are proud of our history and we want to preserve it and Jewish culture was a big part of Poland and its history. Restoring that culture to Poland is vital in my opinion, it will only make the country culturally richer. I really appreciate your videos and your perspective on things. The future should bring us Poles, Jewish and otherwise together rather than split us apart. Educating Jews abroad about what today's Poland is like and dispelling the existing misconceptions is vital to restoring the broken ties.
Yes, You are right, but I feel it should be two way street :)
Gdyby nie było tak licznej niezasymilowanej ludności żydowskiej w II RP, Niemcy robiliby „rozwiązanie kwestii żydowskiej” gdzie indziej, a nie na polskiej ziemi, i nie byłoby oskarżeń Polaków o antysemitzm, ani nie byłoby gangsterskich wymuszeń w rodzaju Act S447. Więc mów za siebie.
@@mk1430 agreed
Mow chłopcze w swoim imieniu.
Żydowska kultura to poczytaj zdrada kresow 1939 😅
For centuries, your grandparents fought with mine for a free Poland, that's why you feel these connections. You can feel this energy in Poland.
"Alte Haim" is a masterpiece, and authors are geniuses, both, Polish and Jewish. It time to finally finish mourning started by the late Shewah Weiss in 2003 and finish it with inspiring musical in 2023.
Dear Michael, when you've said that you feel more conected to Poland, Kraków something shocked me. I live in Gdansk and have very strong Kashubian roots and connections from my mothers side. My fathers side of family comes from small village near Trawniki and Lublin. My grandmothers memories from childehood were difficult, to say the least (Erntefest). But that is another story. As a child i've never been there, in that village. When I first visited i felt something really strange. I felt like ground under my feet was singing. That was so... physical. I realy dont know, to this day how to explain it. Like my body and mind could feel that i come home. And i think that you experienced the same thing. The calling of your roots, ancestry. ❤ So... welcome home❤
My dad lives in Charzykowy , beautiful area
I have been exploring similar feelings of geographic connection. My Jewish family lived in Klobuck for generations. Dad survived the death march, mom in hiding in Warsaw.
I’m in a Thomas Hubl east European community cohort. Some of us Jewish some not. Some of us live in Eastern Europe, some don’t.
There are some remarkable resonances that occur, like we fill in pieces of others puzzles.
Check out Thomas Hubl’s ancestral and collective trauma healing community
Michael mam jedno pytanie do Ciebie. Czy mógłbyś udostępnić mi kontakt do Twojego fryzjera?
What a refreshing conversation. Loved to listen to you, guys. All the best to you:)🤗
Jewish ppl were living in Poland for a centuries. Sometimes we did not agree but no one hurt anyone. They were Polish people, Polish Jews, they felt as much Jewish as Polish. They were fighting for Poland. Remember that.
Me as living in germany being from poland. My impression is talking about jewishness, jewish culture is kind a tabu for germans just out of fear that it is a very delicate thing and so they fear to act somehow wrong.. and out of ignorance about jewish culture..so i think jewish culture and jewishness is very seperated and kind of unpresent in the daily experience whereas in Poland.. i guess half of poles make jokes that „a your grandfather may be jewish“ or yeah you are aware of the history, of Lesmian and Tuwim, and about the polish heroes who risked their lives for jews.. and finally yeah the jewish influences in cities like krakow warsaw etc.
Very interesting video. Interview from time to time is a very good concept. I was thinking about suggesting this form to you. There are so many people you can talk to.
Dziękuję Wam, jesteście głęboko czującymi i myślącymi facetami. Świetna, szczera rozmowa.
There used to be two types of Jews in Poland the Litwaks expelled Russian Jews without connection to Poland and Poles very distinct groups about their Polishness.
Regarding "Jedwabne" have you seen that that other movie that had 2 million views in 3 days. in Poland and got banned?
Guys you like to talk about Polish sins, please also talk about Jewish sins, namely Jewish communists who murdered thousands of Polish heroes right after the war. This was a massacre not comparable to Jedwabne. Please note also that Jedwabne has not been fully investigated as exhumations had been stopped once the proof of Germans' involements started to pop up - so it is not modest to talk about Jedwabne with your unproven assumptions on the Polish guilt in it.
They're not talking about that, because it's utter nonsense what you describe. Typical antisemitic crap.
We have a couple of things in common with the Jews, one is that we have emigrated for centuries, and there's someone who has Polish ancestors in every corner of the world. The other is that our history is full of pain, and we're identified with it. Let's not make it a competition... They suffered a lot, we suffered a lot, we suffered together with them and sometimes, we caused pain to each other. Let's try to write the next chapter now, hopefully one about communication and building bridges, hopefully one about peace and happiness.
Interesting conversation. Thank you for introducing me to your perspective. Greetings from Lublin.
Thank you Michael...as always it was a fascinating episode. Many thanks to Jonathan♥
I love the way the conversation went. I was reslly curious of why you came to Poland, what are your trying to find in the past. What future you want to build with that.
Thank you for interesting conversation! Looking forward for more.
Very interesting conversation and some new points of views for me.
Pozdrawiam ✌🏻👍🏻
Poland is that kind of place: either love it or hate it...
This is one of the most valuable conversations I have listened to recently. I am Polish, I lived in Krakow for 20 years, I have been living in Berlin for 18 months. Since I left, I started to really think about what I miss, about my identity, what Polishness actually means to me. I agree with you that Poles are wrapped in nostalgia and sentimentality. I would like Poland to stop being a museum of Jewish culture, but a place where Jewish life was reborn.
My daughter in Law is Polish. Not Catholic. JWitness background. Lovely girl. I have Arab connections so cannot be objective about Zionism or Israel. But an interesting interview.
I have nothing against Jews who don't practice Polonophobia. For hundreds of years, Poles and Jews lived side by side rather than together. Many of them turned out to be wonderful people, many became Polish patriots, while others gave in to Polonophobia -sometimes unjustifiably. These are not simple things. There is no real anti-Semitism in Poland however, I believe that the growing influence of the Chabad-Lubavitch sect should be stopped.
Let's not forget judeo communism which is denied by Jews as an antisemitic myth because it would go against their narrative as eternally innocent victimes.
A fascinating conversation. It is my favorite video of yours. It feels like I got to know you a little bit better. Thank you.
Trauma of holocaust was make by german Nazi not Polish people. Ask Adam Michnik when he will be Apologize Polish citizen for His brother . And for you knowing you should be digging deeper why so many Jews serving in communist Political Police to fight Polish independence and freedom . For me as a Polish it’s trauma too be blame for something what I not do for Jews. Be accurate .
I have no words for how grateful am I for what you're doing there. Do other Jews perceive your words about Poland being antisemitic? Warm regards, M
No they don’t perceive them as antisemitic.
polska i niemiecka kultura to zupełnie inny świat nawet w tak wielokulturowym mieście jak Berlin. chyba trudno o większy kontrast w Europie między dwoma sąsiadującymi ze sobą narodami. no, może Finowie i Rosjanie :) na przestrzeni wieków wielu Niemców osiedlało się w Polsce (czy też pod zaborami), także w Krakowie i Warszawie, a jednak te kultury pozostały sobie w dużej części obce. Niemcy ulegali polonizacji, Polacy germanizacji i koniec.
1000 lat sąsiedztwa robi swoje. Nawet takie banalne reczy jak zwyczaje (np. choinka na Boże narodzenie) czy potrawy. Głębsze wpływy kulturowe też, np. w literaturze. Na pewno mamy ze sobą więcej wspólnego niż mniej ;P
@@tomaszgarbino2774 jak na 1000 lat sąsiedztwa i skalę migracji np do Warszawy w 19. wieku to wpływy są nieznaczne. oczywiście nazewnictwo przedmiotów, technologia itp. to jasne, ale np literatura francuska miała o niebo większy wpływ na polską literaturę niż niemiecka. jest wpływ np malarstwa z nurtu akademickiego, bo wielu polskich malarzy studiowało w Monachium, ale ja miałem na myśli głębszy wpływ niż samo know-how. wiadomo, że gotyk przyszedł od nas z terenów niemieckich, prawo magdeburskie, urbanistyka średniowiecznych miast..
@@tomaszgarbino2774 to trochę tak jakby powiedzieć, że Rosjanie się zamerykanizowali, bo przecież powszechnie oglądają filmy z Hollywood, piją coca-colę itp. Ale co z tego skoro mentalnie są bliżsi Wielkiej Ordzie niż ideałom amerykańskiej wolności
@@antekp2965 To stereotyp. Rosjanie byli superprowolnościowi na przełomie '80 i '90, potem przyszła smuta ale dopiero Putin rozpoczął propagandę która przebijała tą z ZSRR. Popatrz jak szybko Hitler przerobił Niemców, a Putin miał większe know-how, aparat i 3x więcej czasu.
@@peceed To nie stereotyp. Fakt że po upadku ZSRR była chwila wolności w Rosji ale Rosjanie bali się jej, utożsamiali ją z chaosem i bezladem. Potem przyszedł kolejny "ojczulek", Putin, który twardą ręką zaprowadził porządek za co Rosjanie są mu wdzięczni i go kochają. To jest naród z mentalem niewolników, głęboko patrymonialny. Jak ciągłe powtarza moja rosyjska znajoma, Rosjanie wolności nie znają, nie rozumieją, nie potrzebują i gdyby ją dostali, nie wiedzieliby co z nią zrobić. Stosunek do wolności jest moim zdaniem zasadniczą różnicą między nami a nimi.
Honestly, I prefer shorter materials, as I often don't have much time to watch everything I would like. But this interview was very interesting and after all I neglected my work to watch it at once 😁
It would be interesting to know the Israelis' opinions on Poland. I have no clue what they think, but I remember that once at orthodox shop in Mea Shaerim district the shop keeper asked me where do I come from and I was worried for a second what would be his reaction (would he throw a stone on me or smth) but he's reaction was positive, strangely enough...
I think it is impossible to say that there is one overarching opinion that Israelis have about Poland. It will be diverse.
I work with Israelis and the vast majority of them have been really nice. They are all academics though meaning potentially more open-minded. One of them is a historian, originally from Austria. We discussed the Holocaust a little bit, he told me that as long as Poland is concerned there were, I'm quoting, "very positive and very negative behaviors from the Poles". In general I find them friendly, easy-going and with great sense of humor.
Thank you for smiling when talking about Poland 😊 🇵🇱. It’s rare to see, considering that most Jewish people still have Holocaust trauma. Polish people who survived the war had terrible PTSDs also, yet the new generation has managed to overcome the negative and is making the future look bright. I think that it’s nice that some Jewish communities like in Kazimierz/Krakow are starting to come back in a nice way.
Dear Michael, I am not Jewish but thanks to George Santos, I am rather Jew-ish'1nnI grew up in Idaho so only know one Jew , I knew was Jewish because I mowed the big lawn in front of his bi house I really agreed with you about you explanation n about the Israel/Hamas dilemma. I am sending you this article I wrote that I hop doesn't offend you but amuses you:
Ambivalence | Jonathan Garfinkel Book not in Polish yet
He has not found a publisher/translator interested in publishing it here.
probably due to political reasons :( Jan Gross got a lot from sponsors @@lerubenfeld
Long form, but I enjoyed it. Thank you.
Glad to hear it!
As a Pole I believe that restoring Jewish culture is important for us. Some might ask why? Because this culture has been a part of Polish culture for ages. Half of Polish nation has a Jewish DNA so... it's simply natural. That's all. Everything was simple until the wars started....
Speak for yourself. The most of the Jews barely spoke polish that's how they were part of Poland
@@moniidzia have you lived then and there to say what you claim is true?
@@ytu77 Do you know why American Jews were against immigration of their people from Eastern Europe to USA?
Very interesting conversation, thank you for posting, it is giving me insights into Poland. I am curious if either one of you were able to get citizenship in Poland or Germany b/c of your ancstry. If you grandmother was born there I'm guessing she left after Poland became a country around 1920, so she was a citizen, thus giving you a direct connection to getting citizenship. I know this can be a sensitive topic, so if so I understand. Going to Poland next month for first time in my family lineage in about 150 years, going to be interesting. Shalom to your both, peace from China.
Yes I was able to get my Polish citizenship because of my grandfather.
Excellent, thank you for sharing and good luck there! Peace be with you.@@lerubenfeld
The full extent of Polish, Slavic, as well as Jewish and Polish Jewish culture, needs to be retold from an unbiased and truthful perspective. There is so much more positive than the actual tragic negativity that happened in the middle of 20th century. While remembering these horrifying events, we need to build on the positive because the Polish culture as well as Polish Jewish Jewish culture in Poland throughout centuries, has so much more to offer.
When Jews gonna apologize for judeo communism?
Żyd zagrał na polskiej nucie,a Wy mu laske robicie .Biedni Polacy.Patrząc na komentarze
Nie wszyscy, ja jestem realistką i wiem, że porozumienie z całą nacją już jest niemożliwe, ale na gruncie prywatnym to już zależy od poszczególnych ludzi!!!
That movie which you are talking about isn't "Wesele 2"? Not "Kler"?
I am definitely not in Kler :) I am in Wesele 2
Very interesting conversation. I appreciate your efforts for rebuilding ties between our nations. As a fellow Kraków citizen I always felt void left by Jews after the war. I think we need at least some of it back.
Jedwabne was not a Polish crime. You should get updated on the subject. It was a Germen crime. And yes Krakow is a fantastic city.
BuIIshit. The Jews in Jedwabne were killed by *our citizens* .
Whether we like it or not, Jedwabne and the tragicomic pogrom in Kielce (because they believed Jews killed Christian babies) goes on us.
czemu niemiecka zbodnia,jeśli to Polacy spalili Żydów
How on earth can you justify saying this. There is no evidence of this, plus Poland officially recognizes it as a Polish crime. Stop this stupidity, please, it is horrible for the image of Poland and Polish people.
there are interviews with witnesses...
@@lerubenfeld I disagree with Rabbi Shudrih about the excumation of the victims of Jedwabne. His reason was that it is against Judaism to dig up dead members of the faith under any circumstances. No religion should stop any research. Especially historical research.
Yes, peaceful Zionism and peaceful coexistence. 30 milion of rich and happy Jews in Israel :)
Mnie juź nużą te ciągłe przepychanki, kto zawinił, ile jest ktoś komuś winien, jak kiedyś było i do czego to wszystko doprowadziło!!! Od tego się zaczyna, że ktoś nieźle mąci, kręci i kłamie o stosunkach polsko-żydowskich, przypuszczam, że to Chabat Lubawicz, więc z takim podejściem do tematu i w takich warunkach "dialogu" nie ma szans na porozumienie. Tym bardziej zaprzepaszczono jakąkolwiek możliwość na utworzenie jakiejś wspólnej społeczności, bo to za daleko już zabrnęlo a teraz jeszcze ta wojna i izraelskie "podejście" do Polestyńczyków, dopełniły czarę goryczy!!! Ja już nie chcę się tłumaczyć, ani przepraszać, ani być wplątywana w te narodowościowe zagrywki polityczne i nie chcę poznawać "prawdy", ja naprawdę jestem tym wszystkim zmęczona i popieram radykalne rozwiązania i wyjaśnienia nieporozumień, jakie zastosował Pan Braun, czyli oddcięcie się całkowite od tego tematu!!!
Polacy już nie chcą więcej udowadniać, że nie są wielbłądami!!!
Zastanawiające jest że Żydzi nie kajaja się za żydokomune zarówno tą przedwojenną jak i powojenną , wręcz wciskają ciemotę że to antysemicki mit. Więc zamiast tłumaczyc się że się nie jest wielblądem niech się żydzi tłumaczą z swojej przeszłości. Żydzi nigdy się nie przyznają bo to idzie wbrew ich globalnej narracji o byciu niewinnymi ofiarami.
Mr Rubenfeld, who edited the subtitles? The "morning process" and the "Yiddish kite (jiddischkeit)" may confuse rather than assist the viewers.
automatic :)
They are just auto captioned. I contemplated going through and editing them all, but it would have taken far too long -- so I just accepted that there would be errors, but it will still be useful/helpful for some people.
Thank you for sharing this interview! Its very interesting to see the Jewish perspective on our shared history. I would definitely agree that there is a need on the Polish non-Jewish side to reconcile our history and culture.
If u want to live in Poland and want to be respected and welcomed, u must follow the following simple rules:
1) Respect the Polish history. (Generations of Poles have given their lives for the freedom of Poland and the Jewish community is a part of the Polish history.)
2) Respect the Polish customs.
3) Respect the Polish tradition. (the Polish tradition is thousand years old and the Jewish community is a part of the Polish tradition.)
4) Be loyal to Poland.
5) Take care of the Polish state, because Poland is our common good.
6) Don't kill, don't rape, don't cheat, don't lie, don't steal, don't insult others, don't hurt others
7) Be polite, help people who need your help.
8) Help Polish people to protect their country. Respect Polish soldiers, police and firefighters.
9) Don't take narcotics. Drinking vodka is commonly acceptable in Poland, but if you lose your family, money, job ... because you are an alcoholic, you will be despised.
10) Take care of the environment.(30% territory of Poland is a forest. 80% of forests lakes, rivers etc is owned by the Polish State and is FULLY OPENED FOR ALL POLISH PEOPLE!!! TAKE CARE of this COMMON TREASURE!!!!!!)
If you follow the rules above, you have 100% guarantee, that you will be respected in Poland no matter the colour of you skin, race, religion, gender or nationality. You can be a part of Poland no matter where are you from. This is a part of the Polish tradition. If you are not able to follow the rules above, Poland is not a place for you.
like your lamp
Ooo, koledzy, nie zapędzajcie się za daleko. Poradzimy sobie doskonale bez was w Polsce.
Ja tez bardzo lubie Zydow i ciesze sie jak sa szczesliwi w Izraelu albo gdzies w Kandadzie.
Oh, I had Bruno Schultz at school (I’m Polish).
Sounds like some old generation forgot that what happened in POLAND during WWII was done by the Germans, so I do NOT understand their bad attitude towards POLAND.
Where is the catch?
very nice interview
ANTISEMITISM
November 29, 2022
I am from a small town in Idaho. When I was twelve I got a paper route and also made money mowing lawns. One of my customers was Mr. Cohen. He had a small shop selling furs downtown that must have been successful as his home was in an area known for the upper class. He had a big lawn that I mowed with a push mower so you know it was a while ago. We never conversed, just collected my dues. So I never knew anything except that he was Jewish.
There was another singular ethnic person in our town and he was an African American. He had a tiny slot on Main Street that held his shoe shine shop. My Dad told me he was called the “mayor” as he had to usher others of his race to the other side of town with instructions to keep moving on. Proud Americans?
So, I want to get to the issue of this paper. Jewish people have faced discrimination, hatred and endless, incredible, violent treatment for as long as they have existed. They have been persecuted since the birth of Jesus as they do not accept him as the savior and the Christians just cannot accept that.
You may disagree, call me crazy but it is my idea the problem is..THE MOTHERS! The very survival of the Jewish people has been tough for them for ages. How have they not only survived but even prospered. Why? I contend that it is because of their mothers. Mothers insist on excellence from their sons. Their daughters too but the sons have had more opportunity and responsibility. No matter what field, law, finance, medicine, music, show business, even art, their sons must excel. They must not accept less than the best marks, the top grades. And they have achieved those goals. Jewish men have prospered in so many directions. They can be very tough businessmen, like in the textile world on the East Coast. Brutal at times, taking advantage of young children, working them long hours in miserable conditions for as little pay as they could squeeze. This all came from endless years of the challenge for Jews to just exist, to survive.
Christians grew up with jealousy. Their god says, “Thou shalt not have any gods before me!” So, they can easily be jealous of their successful Jewish brethren.
In the Buddhist teachings there are four illimitables One of them is mudita, sympathetic joy. That is the pleasure one has in the success of others.
It is not a feature of Christianity as proven by The Crusades and the Insurrection where the plan was to make every one believe like me or die.
That can be lead to such conflagrations as Kristallnacht where enraged Germans destroyed hundreds of Jewish shops. Which lead to the absolute abomination of humanity, the Holocaust. The world has had much abominable genocide from every quarter but that is not what this is about.
Jewish men have succeeded immensely and made personal fortunes but they have also created tremendous (a 45 word!) wealth for many nations. If there is any blame, it must go to the men but if there is any glory, it must go to the MOTHERS
Your LOVE Of ………!
A lot of the polish Jews ware patriots as well, according to their own words. And yes, the cultures ware intertwined a lot.
No, of course not, there is always tension between large communities of different background, like the Palestinians and Jews now in Israel for example. But somehow I doubt they hated Poles more then the Nazis let say. @@ipodman1910
Does your love of Poland include love for Poles,or are we far on the margin?Just wanna make sure about that.
In Poland catholic religion demands mourning for 1 year, an the return to family and business duties. How is it in Jewish culture?
Będą filmiki w języku polskim ???
Czasami robię ale większości moje filmiki są po angielsku.
@@lerubenfeld dziękuje za info pozdrawiam miłego Dnia :)
A little late, but still, congratulations on seeing it!
Meanwhile, I will not explain my opinion, I will simply write this:
The Jews who settled en masse in medieval Poland called the land (which welcomed them when they were brutally expelled from Western Europe) POLIN (meaning: here you will rest safely).
Best regards to both gentlemen...
Why is editing of this film so sloppy? You force us to watch close captioning that is 70% accurate. If you force somebody to read the captioning it should be edited to the actual words that you’re saying not that nonsense that appears over there at the bottom of the screen.
Dziękuję za ten wywiad, jest niezwykle ważny również dla nas Polaków. Wspaniale się Was słuchało, tyle ciekawych wątków i tematów do dyskusji i przemyśleń. Pozdrowienia dla Was obu ❤
Have you considered that there might be greater emotional similarity between Poles and Jews than Germans and Jews?
A quick question on the margin. As you actively seek for reconciliation between Poles and Jews are you willing to claim responsibility for the massive Jewish collaboration with Bolsheviks.
I was born in Łódź, Poland. Although I have no Jewish ancestry there are number of traditions continued in my family, adopted by my grandparents from its Jewish neighbours. Specially food. It is fascinating Jewish tradition survived so many generations in non Jew family.
So was I.
Great convo, thanks Mike and Jonathan :) As woman I also feel compelled to add you're both very pleasing to my female eye 😁😁
"Cinnamon Shops" by Bruno Schulz and "The Trial" by Kafka are required reading in high school. Each of us knows Tuwim's poem "The Locomotive". I have the impression that the "besieged fortress" policy used by the Jews is doing them an incredible disservice because they have "erased" 800 years of history on Polish lands. It is obvious to us because we learn it because it is part of our history, culture and art.
Very charismatic men. Jewish people- please come back to Poland! :)
What for?
@@peterkiedron8949to piss you off.
@@peterkiedron8949 I can think of a thousand reasons but just to pick one- to write more fantastic children books, did you know that Brzechwa or Tuwim were Jewish? So our childhood was partly shaped by the Jews :)
LOL Poland needs good people and those both are smart and seemingly also good people, so be welcome, but calling people to come to Poland because of their ethnicity especially if this is not Polish ethnicity it's an insanity
@@wielebna444 Neither Brzechwa nor Tuwim were obsessed with their Jewishness while clearly this guy from Canada is pathologically obsessed with his Jewishness and has zero connection to Poland.
Two Khazarien not Jevish.
Hahaahahahahahahahahhahhahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahhahahahahaahaha there is no end to the stupidity on RUclips.
You are wrong if you think that Poles lack Jewish culture. There were about 3 million Jews in pre-war Poland, but the problem was that although they lived among us, they were a foreign element in Poland and did not assimilate in Poland. They created their own enclaves, living among their own people, and often they could live their entire lives without even knowing the Polish language. In Poland, Jews have no sympathy among Poles, although no one will do any harm to a Jew and this results from history, especially modern history, because Poles associate them with the introduction of communism and murders of patriots and soldiers of the underground army and those fighting in the West, torturing and murdering them. by the security office where 90 percent were Jews. But also today the state of Israel pursues a policy of slandering Poles, equating Germans with Poland in responsibility for the murder of Jews. Poland was in the same situation as the Jews. Hitler's Germans were to destroy the Jewish nation and after the Jews, the Poles were to be destroyed. But Jews show off their own tragedy too much without seeing the tragedy of other nations.
Judeo communism is denied by Jews as an antisemitic myth because it would go against their narrative as eternally innocent victims.
Avant la guerre, et depuis le Moyen Age, c'est en Pologne qu'il y avait la plus grande communauté juive en Europe; c'était aussi cité comme exemple d'ouverture et pendant des siècles, la cohabitation s'est remarquablement bien passée. Puis l'Allemange a envahi la Pologne et commis les Pogroms contre les juifs. Cette horreur s'est passée effectivement en Pologne, mais c'est de l'entière responsabilité de l'Allemagne nazie; aujourd'hui, la communauté juive associe le Pologne à toutes ces horreurs, mais s'ils devaient en vouloir à un pays, ce n'est évidemment pas à la Pologne, mais à l'Allemagne...
Mam małe ale do Michała...... Wymagasz by zacząć uwzględniać Żydów w Polskich organizacjach żydowskich czy iwentach artystycznych..... Ale by zacząć ich uwzględniać to najpierw niech się te osoby nauczą Polskiego..... Bo żeby zrozumieć kulturę i sztukę Polską i być jej częścią przedewszystkim trzeba znać język Polski !!!! Niestety Michale to trochę brzmi chipokryzją wymagać od kogoś by Cię zapraszał do tworzenia treści Polsko/Żydowskich..... Nie znając dobrze języka..... Przecież możesz sam stworzyć własną organizację i własne iwenty artystyczne a nie domagasz się by Cię do nich wpuszczono ( lub kogoś innego tylko dlatego że jesteś Żydem) . Uważam że osoby które nie znają języka Polskiego nie mają prawa niczego żądać!!!! ( Michale jesteś już chyba 6 lat w Polsce a nie znasz dobrze języka..... albo to jest lenistwo i brak chęci do nauki .... albo Niestety jest to ściema że kochasz tak Polskę..... )
A ty ilu jeszcze lat w Polsce potrzebujesz, żeby zapamiętać, że przymiotniki piszemy małą literą?
@Michael - how do you feel in the city of Lodz? To me this is the most Jewish place in Poland actually. Even if not that old one as Krakow. Jews was for poor Jews mostly while Lodz is a place where they florished economically in the 19 century.
To be honest I don't know Łódź very well. I have spent very little time there.
I am Canadian and Polish and my father was jew❤❤❤
the Video Quality is still very bad.
Yes it’s not great. I shot it on an older phone. Other videos are better quality.
Kochany Michaelu, Jest moim marzeniem, żeby dużo ludzi żydowskiego pochodzenia i ich potomków wróciło do Polski i było polskimi Żydami. No i oczywiście żeby nasze narody były jednym. Dziękuję że się do tego przyczyniasz. Mieszkam w Niemczech od 30 lat jestem szczęśliwa widząc jak dobrze można się z innymi narodami zrozumieć. To co robisz to nie tylko przyjaźń między ludźmi i narodami ale przede wszystkim pokój!
Zgadzam sie z panią!
Inni mają inne marzenie, nawet przeciwnie ukierunkowane.
Zgadzam się w 100%.
Strange, I'd never present myself as Polish Christian, I say Im Polish. But Jews cant be just Canadian or American. They always are Jews first. Mabye this is the better way to defend ones culture.
When one Polish Jew hits another Polish Jew, the media will report it as "An antisemitic Pole attacks a Jew". Jews are smart, always placing themselves on the victim side. Look at what Israel is doing now. They're bombing the living daylights out of Gazans, yet keep saying they are fighting Nazis! Even though when you look at the Gaza wasteland, you immediately think of 1944 Warsaw after the German bombing in reprisal for the 1944 Warsaw Uprising. Why, I don't even have to hypothesize! A woman ran into Grzegorz Braun while he was wielding an activated dry-powder fire extinguisher, started to pull at his arm which resulted in her face getting sprayed with the powder. Guess what the media said. It was all along the lines of "In a fit of antisemitic rage Braun attacks a woman who celebrated Hanukkah and sprays her face with dry powder". Exhibit A. Case closed.
Under the law, a Polish citizen is a Polish citizen, regardless whether they are Jewish or Christian. How each person decides to identify themselves though, is up to them. You can define yourself as a Polish Christian if you want, just like a Polish Jewish person can identify as Polish Jewish. I don't see the problem, as long as we don't distinguish between people under the law.
Kler jest gównianym filmem
Smarzowski ma na koncie zarówno swietne jak i maksymalnie gówniane filmy. Kler jest tym gównianym
mam wrażenie, że tutaj pomieszał dwa filmy : Pokłosie i Kler
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Well, well well, have Mr Garfinkel read Adolf Eichmanns memoirs edited By Polish Jew Daniel Passent /Polityka weekly/ 1960?
Chłopaki gorąco Was pozdrawiam z Warszawy ❤
My good Jew again 👍
Ulice wasze kamienice naszę tak kiedyś żydzi mówili do Polaków z pogardą w Polsce what about that?
Jews will return to Poland, there is something in Poland, something very valuable. More valuable than gold or wealth.
We will rebuild the Polish Hussars, we will shock the world, the prophecies will become true.
Well, after what happened, it'll be interesting to hear your thoughts about what happened?
With Braun?
@@lerubenfeld yeah
what is this? Some kind of organized action to convince Jews around the world that Poland is the best place to live for them?
I agree, there is some kind of "explosion", Judaism fascination. It is visible everywhere in Poland.
I live in Kraków. I think that this city is affected and beautified by Jewish culture and religion a lot. 😊
Living for centuries in Poland why Jewish population never learn Polish language?and then you say that people did not accept you?In Canada and USA every Jewish, person speak the language of the country including Quebec french!!!!!
You are wrong about basically everything you said. Many Jews spoke Polish, including my entire family. Also most Canadians don’t speak French. Nice try though maybe do a bit more research.
What's your view on Hanukkah in Polish parliament?
I like Poland too, but I would never live there. It's too unpredictable and for a long time, it must end badly for people representing minorities ... and Germany? My Lord, I don't want to go there for a vacation, let alone live in Germany. Having said that Poland has cool film and theatre traditions that further spread into the United States and other countries. I liked your interview! You guys are definitely braver than me. I hope I see your play at some point.
Greetings for you from Krakow! Pozdrowienia!
Rumours are, Poland has now the greatest number od Diaspora in the World, and it is growing.
It has been always the case , since around 900 AC
counting Russian Zone, BelaRussian and Ukrainian?@@ewascheer7951
@@ewascheer7951 Since 900??? You must be joking.
@@iskaiska6505 please go to Wikipedia ,Early history to Golden Age: 966-1572 history of Polish Jews ...I am also discovering more history and dit is fascinating how little we know and how our ignorance is weaponized for political gaines .best regards
Rumors? Are you stupid?
If the answer is a tora.... Those jews are not any smarter than Koran readers.... Polish point of view....
Strait away i know that i AM not gonna like IT. Cos that first guy. He is a wissle.
Please stay away with your luv.
I will keep away from you, I promise.
@@lerubenfeld You'd better go on the other side of the road when you meet him.