@@xpacnwo2000 Dont make duas like that. And dont praise hamza. you can admire him but only Allah deserves our praise. Praise Allah and make duas that are good.
@@robmtt.6676 Tbh, I’m surprised that Hamza keeps letting you back into the show! He’s been quite generous with you! I’ve seen him ban people who haven’t done a snippet of what you do for six months in their very first appearance.
Then what of kind treatment enjoined upon slaves if you can use force to penetrate someone you own? I don't know the rules about punishing disobedient slaves.
@@mohamedatef6039 Interesting points you have made. That statement by Daniel did initially sound wrong to me but your explanation makes perfect sense. JazakAllahu Khair
@@mohamedatef6039 I partially disagree. Sorry but there is no proof that you can punish a wife by forcing yourself upon her, that refuses. She is sinful if she is being disobedient and trying to torture her husband but he still cannot inflict pain upon her. Secondly there is a huge difference between a wife and a slave. A husband is not a wife's master! He is Qawam.
@@mohamedatef6039 I read your comment, but sadly despite telling the other brother to give you references from Quran and Sunnah you do not, in any of your comments, provide reference from the Quran or the Sunnah, but instead cite non-islamic sources and European & Roman historical events. Concubinage is a part of our religion. But your vitriol against the brother for asking a question and assuming the worst in him by saying "not some of your personal feelings" is very telling. The other brother cited the general rule on being good to the slave. His argument could be supported by saying if you are not allowed to beat a slave without the expiation of that being to free him/her as per an authentic hadith: Ibn Umar reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “Whoever strikes his slave-boy sharply without right, or punches him, the expiation for the sin is to emancipate him.” - Muslim 1657 As well as the haidth of Abu Masood - Muslim, 1659 Since Quran and Sunnah are clear on the permissibility of intercourse with a slave obtained via lawful means (war). But if a slave is disobedient in this matter or another any matter, without giving any reason, then what is the fiqh ruling on the possible rightful response? For this matter there could be five possibilities: 1.) Nothing 2.) He can (or should) sell her 3.) He can beat her as punishment 4.) Refuse to give her provision until she does, or 5.) Force himself on her. Which of these is he allowed to respond with? Let know of the answer with reference from Quran and Sunnah or a book of Fiqh.
< *Guest Timestamps* > 7:38 - Existential Naturalist (Atheist/Agnostic) > Discussion regarding; >>> Naturalism. >>> The Easy/Hard Problems of Consciousness. >>> Scientific Evidence of God/Non-God. 1:06:37 - [I don't know how to type this name] (???) > Kicked >> Technical Issue? 1:07:23 - Old Wolf (Muslim...?) > Discussion regarding; >>> Usages of the Term "Kafir" > Kicked >>> Muslim 1:17:03 - Rob MTT (Christian) > Discussion regarding; >>> Compulsion in Religion. >>> Compulsion in General. > Kicked 1:42:53 - mistertotheroot (Atheist/Agnostic?) > Discussion regarding; >>> Slavery in Islam. >>> Slavery in Christianity and General. 2:21:35 - Why So Religious (Atheist/Agnostic?) > Discussion regarding; >>> Quran chapter 67 verse 4 2:32:02 - ex mosk (???) > Kicked >>> Technical Issue? ------- Muslims Allowed ------- 2:34:50 - Muhammad Elghool (Muslim) > Discussion regarding; >>> The Reliability of Hadith/Sunnah 2:44:40 - Ahmad (Muslim) > Discussion regarding; >>> Objectivity and Subjectivity, especially in regards to Dawah. >>> Transcendental Truths. 2:50:09 - Adnan Shikoh (Muslim) > Discussion regarding; >>> Iman Boosting from watching debates. > Kicked >>> Underage. 2:51:43 - Yilmaz (Muslim) > Discussion regarding; >>> History of Muhammad SAW and the early Muslims. 2:59:56 - 88MILITA (Muslim) > Discussion regarding; >>> Al-Asna and Logic Courses. 2:59:56 - 88MILITA (Muslim) > Discussion regarding; >>> Al-Asna and Logic Courses. 3:01:57 - SSG (Muslim) > Discussion regarding; >>> Fikh Issues. 3:09:35 - Talal Alazzawi (Muslim) > Discussion regarding; >>> Fikh Issues. 3:09:35 - Talal Alazzawi (Muslim) > Discussion regarding; >>> How to do Dawah. 3:18:08 - QuickQuestion (Muslim) > Discussion regarding; >>> Sirah of the Prophet. 3:18:46 - An even quicker question (Muslim) > Discussion regarding; >>> Good sources for the Philosophical Arguments against the Trinity. 3:19:24 - Ex Nihilist (Muslim) > Discussion regarding; >>> Sharing his story about becoming a nihilist. 3:21:38 - M.K baroudi (Muslim) > Just saying Salam. 3:22:19 - Yassin Muhadjir (Muslim) > Discussion regarding; >>> Requesting Daniel to debate Christian Prince. 3:24:33 - Mulamoon (Muslim) > Discussion regarding; >>> Objective and Subjective Morality. >>> Moral Realism. 3:34:37 - Uthman? (Muslim) > Kicked >>> Same question in another stream. 3:36:09 - Yahya Ahmad (Muslim) > Clarification about another stream 3:36:35 - Great Commission (Christian) > Discussion regarding; >>> The 2nd Exodus of the 12 Tribes of Israel >>> The Reliability of the Bible. 3:42:53 - ??? (Muslim) > Discussion regarding; >>> The Numerical Contradictions in Bibles, as used by Sh. Uthman. CLOSING 3:45:34
Now I can see why they find Rob funny. He has all the qualities for entertainment. 1. asking stupid questions 2. contradicting himself 3. pretending to be dumb or is actually dumb. 4. then rejecting the responses without adequate justification.
Islam deals with real-life issues like war, diplomacy, marriage, family, politics, and society. It gives guidelines for life like rights and responsibilities for the individual and the collective.
Maashallah great to see Sheikh Uthmaan and Brother Daniel on the EF Dawah as they both have beautiful approaches to the giving dawah and are nice to see with the ef dawah team
You know only Allah can bring something good from something we perceive as bad. All these brothers had their individual channels doing Dawah physically in the park but COVID pushed them all to go online and form these panels where they are now inviting and challenging different concepts and ideologies and attacking each of these concepts specifically through having different specialists in the panel. This is such a beautiful outcome. I believe these videos will be rewatched for decades to come like those old Ahmed Deedat videos from the 1980s. مَا شَاءَ ٱللّٰهْ May Allah give us all the knowledge, sincerely, and motivation to continue on this path.
The Debate with Rob was the Highlight. Daniel caught his underlying assumption that there's no compulsion whatsoever. Sharif then just drilled Rob's 24/7 Argument w.r.t the UK laws( Where rob resides), Rob is now trapped which he himself set and Daniel just put the cherry on the cake with the interpretation of 9:29 and demonstrating that even if for Arguments sake, we take Rob's underlying presuppositions, 2:256 and 9:29 still doesn't contradict each other. That is what you call 'pure demolition'. Great Job to Brothers Daniel and Sharif. Just brilliant.
I think Rob MTT is one of the worst paid liars in the whole world. Other than sophisticated liars like Jay Smith, Robert Spencer, David Wood, and the professional liars like that, this guy is the worst I have ever come across in my life. I think Hamza allows him on simply because every Christians will see what kind of liars are out there.
@@robmtt.6676 Are you Rob? If yes, your 24/7 Argument was pathetic tbh. Let me explain why: If you know about child psychology, the age from the toddler years(0+) upto post-teen(18) is THE MOST Productive years when a human worldview/Paradigm is shaped. This is literally the indoctrination period of a human. Yes, indoctrination is inevitable, be it a liberal indoctrination or a religious indoctrination. To Argue that school curriculum is innocous to a person's development and shaping of a certain worldview/paradigm is analogous to saying that keeping a person in concentration camp the whole day and leaving them 'free' at night is innocuous. That's how pathetic the Argument was. Nevertheless you couldn't even defend that as well as brother sharif exposed your ignorance of your own UK laws (using Prevent's/CVE's policies).
@@robmtt.6676 There was no ad-hominem or strawman. You used the father-son example to create an analogy between 2:256 and 9:29. The Analogy was flawed in the very first place as 2:256 and 9:29 doesn't contradict each other even if I take your presuppositions. Compulsion in religion is still forbidden albeit the Jizya/Tax stuff. Moreover, the very fact that your own worldview enacts compulsion shows your hypocrisy. Your alleged 'Strawman' during the debate was also flawed because the government law examples were completely relevent to the topic(Compulsion). Be a man and accept that you were intellectually battered by Daniel and Sharif.
@@robmtt.6676 If you want to live in an Islamic State, you must pay the Jizya otherwise you cannot stay in that state. It doesn't talk about converting people to Islam forcefully within that state. You've no idea how the Shariah works.
I would very much encourage Muslims not only to watch these duaat but also to fellow traditional scholars who have ijazat and who are not reformers or don't speak about certain topics that are very important. I personally fellow and benefited hugely ustaad abdurrahman Hassan from al madrasatu al umariyyah RUclips channel and also from brother Daniel haqiqatjou.
Gotta laugh at the awkwardness when he says how it is about how female captives don’t need to consent (when he corrected Hamza) and they all went silent 😂
In my humble opinion the answer to every naturalist is one sentence They conveniently explain everything in the boundary of the universe. Just because they are happy with that answer, it doesn’t mean it’s a satisfying answer.
Muslim apologist explain everything "God did it" ...So Atheist answer with a more satisfying way. At least they try to propose some natural mechanism. The theist position is no different from "Magic did it"
@@socratesson4320 who said we do not agree with the naturalistic explanation? clear ignorance it has been maybe more than 2 years that u come to islamic channels and u still don't have a clue about islamic beliefs but of course u rejected islam after reading about it from authentic books right? lol
@@socratesson4320 *"The theist position is no different from "Magic did it""* ouah, It's the world upside down. Only atheists believe in the famous "nothing gives birth to something": 0+0 = 1 by magic. We Muslims argue logically, and we have been telling you for years that you think with your feet. Don't bring us down to your level. Thank you
@@matthewpopp1054 well muslims don't believe in all loving we say most loving your argument is "sounds to good to be true" this is how u disproved it appeal to emotion i think using the same argument that u used i can prove anything including god will u accept it ? ofc not
3:32:42 Excellent answer from brother Ijaz. God The All-knowing, The Just, can not be subjective. (A human mind on the other hand is finite and therefore is subjective.)
As a Muslim, this is not Islamophobia, this is just ignorance and opposition to the faith, brought upon by fear and hatred. May God forgive the disbelievers and guide them to the light. Ameen
@@bongotv6292 May Allah the creator of the universe guide you to the straight path..I recommend you watch the quran recitation with English subtitles.
Thanks guys you guys are the best. May Allah reward you all for inspiring all of us Muslims and non-Muslims, helping us broaden our knowledge and giving us inspiration. Having said this all that’s left to say is…….D to the A to the N to the I to the E to the L DANIEL….Rasakallah hayre brother…loving your style and rebutle technique brother..u is smashing the ball out the park everytime bro.!!!!
Me me me me me and my emotions, reality is subjective to my emotions, I'm hurt, I want to be loved 😢 I truly belive I'm a nice person, I belive in loving others, I'll find meaning in everything to suit that narrative & reject whatever questions it, I'll create my own reality, everything must revolve around that. But I don't know why I'm still stuck, not growing up to be more responsible, things are fading away but I must cling on until I'm completely broken, I can see that but can't help as I can't accept I could be wrong. I'm not defeated even I know I'm becoming weaker as days go by and becoming apparently clear that what I claim to belive in doesn't make much sense. I must keep going until I die.
Salaam brother's gud 2c u all as usually,I love taking on the knowledge u present and explain.I learn new information all the time wen I watch yor vids,Ijaz and all of u r well knowledgeable and he puts a smile on my face aswell as Hamza.Great work take care khudahafiz.
Rob: Government doesn't force you to keep the law. Yeah, I wonder what law enforcement is all about. Every time the term disingenuous pops up I think of Rob.
The beautiful thing about Islam is that it has the answer for any plight a man may encounter. A true human manuel would HAVE to deal with war and the uglier side of the human condition. Islam almost aways suggest to not go to war, not to fight, set up treaties with others, seek for peace but we live a world were that cannot always happen and therefore there are rules on how to deal with issues when other human beings transgress the bounds which makes Islam unlike any other ism, religion or system.
One cannot physically and mentally abuse/torture concubines. Props to br. Daniel for pointing out the goofiness of modern liberal notion of consent, which even they admit is a turn off, asking for a verbal yes at every step. Real humans do it with body language and foreplay. The Prophet on foreplay- the Prophet pbuh said “One of you should not fulfil one’s sexual need from one’s wife like an animal, rather there should be between them foreplay of kissing and words.” The Prophet goes on to say, “Three people are cruel: …a person who has sex with his wife before foreplay.” Umar R.A had a person stoned for ****ing an enemy woman. Also google war brides of WW2.
so when Genghis Khan and his armies ravaged through muslim lands they didn't rape and enslave? You're delusional if you think so. Also the Quran does not allow an unlimited harem of sex slaves/concubines. Read Quran 2:221, 4:25, 24:1-3, 24:32-33, 60:10-12, which makes it clear that concubinage is prohibited in Islam and that the only permissible relations with formerly slave men/women is through marriage with the additional conditional that they have to be believers.
The verse 9:29 is a command to fight the Byzantine Romans and other hostile powers who were planning an invasion against the Muslims in Arabia. In context, it is a distinct response to aggression, in particular the assassination of one of the Prophet’s ambassadors. On the surface, this appears to be an open-ended command to fight non-Muslims until they are conquered. However, a fundamental principle of Quranic exegesis (tafseer) is that the verses must be understood in the context in which they were revealed (asbab an-nuzul) and in conjunction with other verses delineating the rules of warfare. At-Tabari and other commentators record that this verse was revealed concerning the expedition of Tabuk. At-Tabari records: Mujahid reported concerning the verse, “Fight those who do not believe in Allah and the Last Day…” that it was revealed when Muhammad and his companions were commanded with the expedition of Tabuk. Source: Tafseer At-Tabari 9:29 The expedition of Tabuk was preceded by the battle of Mu’tah which began when the emissary of the Prophet was assassinated while delivering a letter to a Roman ally. Ibn Al-Qayyim writes: The cause of the battle was that the Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, sent Harith ibn Umair Al-Azdi of the tribe of Lihb with his letter to Syria for the Roman king or Busra. He presented it to Sharhabeel ibn Amr Al-Ghassani and he bound him and struck his neck. Never had an ambassador of the Messenger of Allah been killed besides him. The Prophet was upset by that when news reached him and he dispatched an expedition. Source: Zaad Al-Ma’ad 336 Safiur Rahman writes: The Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, had sent Al-Harith ibn Umair Al-Azdi on an errand to carry a letter to the ruler of Busra. On his way, he was intercepted by Sharhabeel ibn Amr Al-Ghassani, the governor of Al-Balqa and a close ally to Caesar, the Byzantine Emperor. Al-Harith was tied and beheaded by Al-Ghassani. Source: The Sealed Nectar p. 245 This was the first act of Roman aggression that further led to the expedition of Tabuk concerning which the verse 9:29 was revealed. The verse describes the aggressors as those “who do not believe in Allah and the Last Day,” because they committed this act of treachery. Executing emissaries from other countries is a war crime that could never be committed by those who sincerely believe in God. Anas ibn Malik reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said: There is no faith for one who cannot be trusted. There is no religion for one who cannot uphold a covenant. Source: Musnad Ahmad 11975, Grade: Hasan Safiur Rahman further describes the reason the conflict took place: The Byzantine power, which was considered the greatest military force on earth at that time, showed an unjustifiable opposition towards Muslims. As we have already mentioned, their opposition started at killing the ambassador of the Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, Al-Harith ibn Umair Al-Azdi, by Sharhabeel ibn Amr Al-Ghassani. The ambassador was then carrying a message from the Prophet to the ruler of Busra. We have also stated that the Prophet consequently dispatched a brigade under the command of Zaid bin Haritha, who had a fierce fight against the Byzantines at Mu’tah. Although Muslim forces could not have revenge on those haughty overproud tyrants, the confrontation itself had a great impression on the Arabs all over Arabia. Caesar, who could neither ignore the great benefit that the battle of Mu’tah had brought to Muslims, nor could he disregard the Arab tribes’ expectations of independence and their hopes of getting free from his influence and reign, nor he could ignore their alliance to the Muslims. Realizing all that, Caesar was aware of the progressive danger threatening his borders, especially the fronts of Syria which were neighboring Arab lands. So he concluded that demolition of the Muslims’ power had grown an urgent necessity. This decision of his should, in his opinion, be achieved before the Muslims become too powerful to conquer and raise troubles and unrest in the adjacent Arab territories. To meet these exigencies, Caesar mustered a huge army of the Byzantines and pro-Roman Ghassanite tribes to launch a decisive bloody battle against the Muslims. Source: The Sealed Nectar p. 272
Hamza has dealt with the public so long he feels like someone is always trying to deceive him and this is a wrong approach. The one Malay brother I felt was genuine and I felt he was speaking the truth. Christians don't know their own doctrine enough so they speak utter tripe to non Christians and serenade them with love stories. The Malay brother falls into the same pitfalls as many people intrigued by Islam, they fall victim to the cesspool of misinformation online and they need clarification.
This china man is Malaysian. I do not know if he really understands what Yu people r talking about. He had asked about sex before. I think he has sex in his mind. I have a feeling that he has been encouraged to ask this question just to belittle Islam
He is a dishonest chap. He is Malaysian Chinese. I do not think he understands what Yu people r talking about. Just to belittle Islam He has been asking question Re sex before
Hamza and Hashim ! Both of you checkmated the silly Mistertotheroot perfectly. good job!👍 The way he brought the question no doubt he is not just a christian but maybe the christian missionary .
It's like seeing all the marvel and dc superheros come together on Arena. Amazing stream but it would be way better if actual scholars come here to discuss with such an amazing pannel.
@Pull out The lapel well cringe maybe for you. But yeah the analogy stands. All these are brilliant brothers from different channels are all together on arena.
@Pull out The lapel he does explain the senerio. Like the ones you are against at war would show you or your women children any mercy? Remember we are talking about pre modern warfare. And back then there were no rules for war captives you could do anything you want. Islam gave them rights even tho they were captives of war. If you cant see that i cant make you and there would be no point in argueing.
Interesting while discussing origin of life from the "magic custard" Existential Naturalist corrects Hamza saying "well from clay..." "We created man from sounding clay, from mud moulded into shape..." (15:26
Al-Adab Al-Mufrad 188 Jabir ibn 'Abdullah said, "The Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, advised that slaves should be well-treated. He said, 'Feed them from what you eat and clothe them from what you wear. Do not punish what Allah has created.'" حَدَّثَنَا سَعِيدُ بْنُ سُلَيْمَانَ، قَالَ: حَدَّثَنَا مَرْوَانُ بْنُ مُعَاوِيَةَ، قَالَ: حَدَّثَنَا الْفَضْلُ بْنُ مُبَشِّرٍ قَالَ: سَمِعْتُ جَابِرَ بْنَ عَبْدِ اللهِ يَقُولُ: كَانَ النَّبِيُّ صلى الله عليه وسلم يُوصِي بِالْمَمْلُوكِينَ خَيْرًا وَيَقُولُ: أَطْعِمُوهُمْ مِمَّا تَأْكُلُونَ، وَأَلْبِسُوهُمْ مِنْ لَبُوسِكُمْ، وَلاَ تُعَذِّبُوا خَلْقَ اللهِ عَزَّ وَجَلَّ. Grade: Sahih (Al-Albani) صـحـيـح (الألباني)حكم : Reference : Al-Adab Al-Mufrad 188In-book reference : Book 9, Hadith 33English translation : Book 9, Hadith 188 Jami` at-Tirmidhi 1945 Abu Dharr narrated that the Messenger of Allah said : "Allah has made some of your brothers as slaves under your care. So whoever has his brother under his care, then let him feed him from his food, and let him clothe him from his clothes. And do not give him a duty that he cannot bear, and if you give him a duty he cannot bear, then assist him with it." I hate how Daniel turns defensive when it comes to women in any context at all. I know he hates the modern twisted narratives by the feminists and liberals but denying what is actually in our tradition is pushing it. Look up what happens to the women POWs when they become mothers. ( spoilers she's no longer a slave) I know that is br Daniel's explanation but that's just one aspect which may or may not be true and many scholars of the past disagree with this. Explain why they practiced "coitus interruptus" with these women and asked the Prophet ﷺ about it's permissibility. I dislike the word concubines because of the weird picture it brings to mind (cuz of movies) of some perverted king with half naked women around him. That is not Islam to be very clear. They were assigned to the believers to absorb them into muslim society. And only *one* believer could be intimate with her and he would be known. Many slaves accepted Islam after they saw the good treatment from the Muslims as opposed to other nations.
I'm in Malaysia, he is a Chinese kind guy looking for the truth and u maybe just drive him away form the truth, please brother HAMZA I love but that was something Allah will ask u about.
There will always be slavery even today human trafficking, the prison system, etc. I think people think prohibiting something or "abolishing" it ends the issue, but we fail to see that when you make something illegal you create a black market. That's why Islam has rules and strong punishments for violating those limits to really deter those elements from continuing. It won't fully stop all but will definitely limit its reach and presence.
"35. Or were they created out of nothing? Or are they the creators? 36. Or did they create the heavens and the earth? In fact, they are not certain." sou52
You will never come across Hindus who will be able to defend their religion. I am from India and I have not met a single indian who can even name the scriptures of their religion. At best they will tell you about bhagvad gita, ramayan, mahabharat etc. ask them if they have studied Upanishads or Vedas and they will be stumped. Hinduism of present day mostly is an amalgamation of nationalism, rituals(with no basis) and anecdotes. Zakir naik has already destroyed their false beliefs using their scriptures. Hindutva which is a prevalent ideology in India with current regime is an extemist ideology.
My sheiks are You !! Wow , i do not want to be mean here towards our Brothers but this is also happening in my own area , we tent to ask thing to those we adore of like even if they do not posses the right knowledge about something what is being asked . the problem is with those who come with questions and are not able to think whom to ask which question but I am glad you brothers correct these people
Brothers please if you gonna put muslims on, dont laugh at Them and so forth, because i think that brother yilmaz has some waswasa issues and he asked like is this from shaytaan? Then got kicked from the room.. next time show some mercy he might had issues you could give him short advise on waswasa
Dear brothers, I have an important comment to make, and I hope you find the time to read it. When it comes to war in Islam, it is very pragmatic, and the main principle is, Reciprocity now when it comes to slaves and concubines, you are discussing the sharia law way back in time, before the emergence of the current regulation that meet the development in the world. Before the age of strong central states, where the state can house prisoners of war, all what you have said was right. ( with some additional notes I will add below) However, now all agree, that the current UN agreed laws on treatment of prisoners of war is 100% sharia compatible and agreed upon. In wars fought between Arabs and Israel, India and Pakistan, UN laws were followed. No more slaves or concubines. Now back to the main issue, you really missed a lot of rights that Sharia gives to Slaves and this list applies to both men and women. • They have to eat the same food you eat, and dress from the same cloth you dress. • They have to live in the same standard of living that you do. • You cant call them ‘my slave’ • They have the right to be set free if they asked by a contract that states how much they will pay for getting their freedom back. Actually it is encouraged to do so. بيت مال المسلمين - aka House of money. i.e. Ministry of Finance for Muslims, must aid in this contract if the slave could not do it on his own. ( وَالَّذِينَ يَبْتَغُونَ الْكِتَابَ مِمَّا مَلَكَتْ أَيْمَانُكُمْ فَكَاتِبُوهُمْ إِنْ عَلِمْتُمْ فِيهِمْ خَيْرًا ۖ وَآتُوهُم مِّن مَّالِ اللَّهِ الَّذِي آتَاكُمْ ۚ) 24:33 • If they asked to get married, they are allowed, بيت مال المسلمين again, helps in the cost of marriage if they can not afford it. • You are asked to educate them if they are wise and capable of learning. • If a concubines gives birth, she and her child are free. • You cant force a religion on them. • You can't ask them to do a work more than what they can handle. • If the war is over. Use them for prisoner exchange or set them free as a favor ! . 47:4( فَإِمَّا مَنًّا بَعْدُ وَإِمَّا فِدَاءً) Since I am not sure if you will read this, I will stop here.
Asalaamalukun wa ratnatullah all Praise is for Allah the most mercifully brother your work alhimdillah .Start to listen to your guest Hamza I'd you spoke to me in the way that I've seen you brother. What if you turn some one away from the straight path Adam is so in portent May Allah guide us all and forgive our sin and be of those that enter the Garden
These clowns couldn't answer the Malaysian guy's simple questions, instead they tried to shift the field and attack his beliefs instead, but I liked the questioner, he was firm, and always went back to his question. When he finally pissed off Hamza, he labelled him as a christian and kicked him out. Utter childish behaviour synonyms to a child losing an argument and throwing a temper tantrum. But you know what? Overall this was an important moment for these clowns. I like that Daniel was invited to this podcast because he doesn't sugar-coat anything, and he's more educated than every other panelist present... He basically destroyed the narrative that Hamza has been advocating against for so long, that there is no sex slavery in Islam. Contrary to popular delusion, sex slavery is very common in Islam, and in fact its regulated. In pre-Islamic Arabia, slavery was just locally run with most tribes having their own set of rules, and many tribes actually abstaining from it all together. But with the emergence of Islam, Mashallah it became a legal right through its regularization via the Quran and Sunnah. Every one had the right to have a concubine (If you're male), and a slave of any other sense. And no, there is no concept of consent in pre-Islamic Arabia, and the reason why the Quran doesn't address consent is because Arab morality hadn't evolved enough to consider that consent of a slave. That was just not a thing. Using movies like P.O.W. Captives, or the atrocities of WW2, WW1 against women and children to justify Islamic slavery is just quite literally shooting yourself on the foot and show-casing your delusional hypocrisy. Because you AGREE that slavery, and sexual slavery is wrong in every case, and especially in modern times when our morality is so much better than pre-islamic and even early islamic Arabia. But what did the Quran do? instead of making it prohibited, it regulated it and made it quite literally legal. You also mentioned that you can sign treaties and whatnot to say you won't take war captives, which means you AGREE that there is a way to prevent war captives from being taken right? There exists a possible solution and that means war captives are not something that just can't be stopped because it was so common..... so if you agree to that then why didn't the Quran and Sunnah utilize this method? why not sign a treaty with humanity saying no we won't kidnap captives, rape women and children and men under our 'possession' Why? because their morality was primitive, to them it was a common practice. Islamic morality was just morality of that time, and not an example for all humanity to come because it's already failed us. It's very unfortunately to be honest. I wish Islam was better. Before all the white-knights jump to say I misunderstand Islam, I have a Bachelor's of Hadith and Islamic Sciences from Madina University. A masters in religious theology and a phd in biochemistry. SO no I am not uneducated, but you might know something I don't know, so please feel free to discuss this with me in a respectful and academic manner.
@A K sure so you agree Islam objectified women, children and men as objects to be used for war tactics. And how does making a woman into a concubine serve as WAR tactic after the war is supposedly over? I also have a BS in basic sciences which I don’t feel is necessary to state as its not an Islamic subject.
The clowns are in the comments don't have the guts to get on the stream. If they never give him the time of day they have reason. They are spending hours every week answering questions etc. Please don't waist our time with your nonsense. All these AP n CP have nothing
The context of war in the premodern era as understood by all, the winner will take all. That includes the defeated army's men women and children coupled with the material resources. They will be distributed among the winners as slaves. Those people will become the property straightaway. Hence, whether they have the right to be consented if they wanted to become slaves or not, is just waste of time. Secondly, the verse in question addressed the permissible sex for the Muslim men, particularly in premodern era, which was limited to wives and slave females. The questioner asked whether the slave females were consented before sex? The answer is, in those days if the wives were consented before sex, the slave females would have been treated the same.
For surly among humans are those who are ingrates to their creator. The sun, rain, snow, wind, time, heat, cold, the seasons the meat of animals and plants sea creatures etc... are all from our creator yet humans are ingrates. Have they not reflect on what they have seen and experienced. Let us not overlook the gifts and favoŕs that our creator gave us for surely among humans are those who are ingrates.
I believe the whole situation need absolute knowledge in the languages spoken in the Fertile Crescent entirely . Everything falls back to words spoken and written
i like how brother hamza other relgion guy into the middel of screen LOL XD . but its really nice orginazed i like how brother hamza the lion deal with the screen placement ^^ . also his knowedlge is just masha.a allah . may ALLAh reward you brothers .
1:57:22 Alexander and Darius III battle at Issus can answer the question. Darius III brought all of his family members at the battle and his family members got captured by Alexander after his army got defeated.
Just a thought I had on what existential naturalist was saying. When we go to sleep we’re unconscious, and consciousness still continues in the form of dreams. And sleep and death are related in the Quran. I don’t know what it means but I’m sure the Quran explains it
Daniel compares a captive having to consent to a man having sex with her, as the same as to the Vietnamese people consenting to getting bombed. But if he were asked if he condemns the act of the Vietnamese people being bombed, no doubt the answer would be yes. What an extraordinary way to try and defend his premise.
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History will remember you guys who actually stood up against Islamophobia in 21st CE.
@@xpacnwo2000 This is a very strange, attention seeking comment, are you ok mate?
@@xpacnwo2000 Dont make duas like that. And dont praise hamza. you can admire him but only Allah deserves our praise. Praise Allah and make duas that are good.
@@nanashi7779 it's a proud one brother. Look at it with the insecurity glasses off.
@@robmtt.6676You're the pinnacle of those who are a pathetic troll, so what are you talking about?
@@robmtt.6676 Tbh, I’m surprised that Hamza keeps letting you back into the show! He’s been quite generous with you! I’ve seen him ban people who haven’t done a snippet of what you do for six months in their very first appearance.
Let Daniel finish his points through to their end and please have him on your show again! Great show Hamza and thank you.
Then what of kind treatment enjoined upon slaves if you can use force to penetrate someone you own? I don't know the rules about punishing disobedient slaves.
@@mohamedatef6039 Interesting points you have made. That statement by Daniel did initially sound wrong to me but your explanation makes perfect sense. JazakAllahu Khair
@@mohamedatef6039 I partially disagree. Sorry but there is no proof that you can punish a wife by forcing yourself upon her, that refuses. She is sinful if she is being disobedient and trying to torture her husband but he still cannot inflict pain upon her.
Secondly there is a huge difference between a wife and a slave.
A husband is not a wife's master! He is Qawam.
Daniel saved me I was almost going to take my shahada till he finally was honest and said you can rape POWs per God? Yeah no thanks
@@mohamedatef6039 I read your comment, but sadly despite telling the other brother to give you references from Quran and Sunnah you do not, in any of your comments, provide reference from the Quran or the Sunnah, but instead cite non-islamic sources and European & Roman historical events. Concubinage is a part of our religion. But your vitriol against the brother for asking a question and assuming the worst in him by saying "not some of your personal feelings" is very telling. The other brother cited the general rule on being good to the slave. His argument could be supported by saying if you are not allowed to beat a slave without the expiation of that being to free him/her as per an authentic hadith:
Ibn Umar reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “Whoever strikes his slave-boy sharply without right, or punches him, the expiation for the sin is to emancipate him.” - Muslim 1657
As well as the haidth of Abu Masood - Muslim, 1659
Since Quran and Sunnah are clear on the permissibility of intercourse with a slave obtained via lawful means (war). But if a slave is disobedient in this matter or another any matter, without giving any reason, then what is the fiqh ruling on the possible rightful response? For this matter there could be five possibilities: 1.) Nothing 2.) He can (or should) sell her 3.) He can beat her as punishment 4.) Refuse to give her provision until she does, or 5.) Force himself on her. Which of these is he allowed to respond with?
Let know of the answer with reference from Quran and Sunnah or a book of Fiqh.
< *Guest Timestamps* >
7:38 - Existential Naturalist (Atheist/Agnostic)
> Discussion regarding;
>>> Naturalism.
>>> The Easy/Hard Problems of Consciousness.
>>> Scientific Evidence of God/Non-God.
1:06:37 - [I don't know how to type this name] (???)
> Kicked
>> Technical Issue?
1:07:23 - Old Wolf (Muslim...?)
> Discussion regarding;
>>> Usages of the Term "Kafir"
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>>> Muslim
1:17:03 - Rob MTT (Christian)
> Discussion regarding;
>>> Compulsion in Religion.
>>> Compulsion in General.
> Kicked
1:42:53 - mistertotheroot (Atheist/Agnostic?)
> Discussion regarding;
>>> Slavery in Islam.
>>> Slavery in Christianity and General.
2:21:35 - Why So Religious (Atheist/Agnostic?)
> Discussion regarding;
>>> Quran chapter 67 verse 4
2:32:02 - ex mosk (???)
> Kicked
>>> Technical Issue?
------- Muslims Allowed -------
2:34:50 - Muhammad Elghool (Muslim)
> Discussion regarding;
>>> The Reliability of Hadith/Sunnah
2:44:40 - Ahmad (Muslim)
> Discussion regarding;
>>> Objectivity and Subjectivity, especially in regards to Dawah.
>>> Transcendental Truths.
2:50:09 - Adnan Shikoh (Muslim)
> Discussion regarding;
>>> Iman Boosting from watching debates.
> Kicked
>>> Underage.
2:51:43 - Yilmaz (Muslim)
> Discussion regarding;
>>> History of Muhammad SAW and the early Muslims.
2:59:56 - 88MILITA (Muslim)
> Discussion regarding;
>>> Al-Asna and Logic Courses.
2:59:56 - 88MILITA (Muslim)
> Discussion regarding;
>>> Al-Asna and Logic Courses.
3:01:57 - SSG (Muslim)
> Discussion regarding;
>>> Fikh Issues.
3:09:35 - Talal Alazzawi (Muslim)
> Discussion regarding;
>>> Fikh Issues.
3:09:35 - Talal Alazzawi (Muslim)
> Discussion regarding;
>>> How to do Dawah.
3:18:08 - QuickQuestion (Muslim)
> Discussion regarding;
>>> Sirah of the Prophet.
3:18:46 - An even quicker question (Muslim)
> Discussion regarding;
>>> Good sources for the Philosophical Arguments against the Trinity.
3:19:24 - Ex Nihilist (Muslim)
> Discussion regarding;
>>> Sharing his story about becoming a nihilist.
3:21:38 - M.K baroudi (Muslim)
> Just saying Salam.
3:22:19 - Yassin Muhadjir (Muslim)
> Discussion regarding;
>>> Requesting Daniel to debate Christian Prince.
3:24:33 - Mulamoon (Muslim)
> Discussion regarding;
>>> Objective and Subjective Morality.
>>> Moral Realism.
3:34:37 - Uthman? (Muslim)
> Kicked
>>> Same question in another stream.
3:36:09 - Yahya Ahmad (Muslim)
> Clarification about another stream
3:36:35 - Great Commission (Christian)
> Discussion regarding;
>>> The 2nd Exodus of the 12 Tribes of Israel
>>> The Reliability of the Bible.
3:42:53 - ??? (Muslim)
> Discussion regarding;
>>> The Numerical Contradictions in Bibles, as used by Sh. Uthman.
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3:45:34
Thanks a lot bro. I'm a student and is always short of time. Detail Timestamps like these are a great help. JazakAllahu khairann
Jazakallah brother
Mistreat or something at 1:42:30 is Andrew Christ in disguise
Hinduism is dumbest faith I have witnessed
Jazak Allahu khairan
Barakallahu feekum
Alhamdulillahi rabbi al'alameen
Now I can see why they find Rob funny. He has all the qualities for entertainment.
1. asking stupid questions
2. contradicting himself
3. pretending to be dumb or is actually dumb.
4. then rejecting the responses without adequate justification.
Rob! He thinks what children learn at school can be forgotten after 5:00 pm
A living clown rob
He 'robbing' our panel time..
So happy to see br Daniel.
Islam deals with real-life issues like war, diplomacy, marriage, family, politics, and society. It gives guidelines for life like rights and responsibilities for the individual and the collective.
Maashallah great to see Sheikh Uthmaan and Brother Daniel on the EF Dawah as they both have beautiful approaches to the giving dawah and are nice to see with the ef dawah team
Daniel’s unapologetic explanation of slavery in Islam was awesome. This needs to be made into a short clip of its own.
A shame he was wrong. Being unapologetic about something doesn't equate to accuracy.
@@MoroccanMoorMind if I ask, what was wrong with his explanation?
You know only Allah can bring something good from something we perceive as bad. All these brothers had their individual channels doing Dawah physically in the park but COVID pushed them all to go online and form these panels where they are now inviting and challenging different concepts and ideologies and attacking each of these concepts specifically through having different specialists in the panel. This is such a beautiful outcome. I believe these videos will be rewatched for decades to come like those old Ahmed Deedat videos from the 1980s. مَا شَاءَ ٱللّٰهْ
May Allah give us all the knowledge, sincerely, and motivation to continue on this path.
Peace & blessings be upon you all. Excited that this show is back. May Allah preserve all the brothers & sisters. Ameen.
Ameen brother. May Allah protect you from evil and align your affairs akhi. Allahumma barik
@@shahid8545 Ameen. Same & more for you & loved ones. Ameen.
The Debate with Rob was the Highlight. Daniel caught his underlying assumption that there's no compulsion whatsoever. Sharif then just drilled Rob's 24/7 Argument w.r.t the UK laws( Where rob resides), Rob is now trapped which he himself set and Daniel just put the cherry on the cake with the interpretation of 9:29 and demonstrating that even if for Arguments sake, we take Rob's underlying presuppositions, 2:256 and 9:29 still doesn't contradict each other. That is what you call 'pure demolition'. Great Job to Brothers Daniel and Sharif. Just brilliant.
I died when i saw rob running full speed trying to ovoid the question
I think Rob MTT is one of the worst paid liars in the whole world. Other than sophisticated liars like Jay Smith, Robert Spencer, David Wood, and the professional liars like that, this guy is the worst I have ever come across in my life. I think Hamza allows him on simply because every Christians will see what kind of liars are out there.
@@robmtt.6676 Are you Rob? If yes, your 24/7 Argument was pathetic tbh. Let me explain why:
If you know about child psychology, the age from the toddler years(0+) upto post-teen(18) is THE MOST Productive years when a human worldview/Paradigm is shaped. This is literally the indoctrination period of a human. Yes, indoctrination is inevitable, be it a liberal indoctrination or a religious indoctrination. To Argue that school curriculum is innocous to a person's development and shaping of a certain worldview/paradigm is analogous to saying that keeping a person in concentration camp the whole day and leaving them 'free' at night is innocuous. That's how pathetic the Argument was. Nevertheless you couldn't even defend that as well as brother sharif exposed your ignorance of your own UK laws (using Prevent's/CVE's policies).
@@robmtt.6676 There was no ad-hominem or strawman. You used the father-son example to create an analogy between 2:256 and 9:29. The Analogy was flawed in the very first place as 2:256 and 9:29 doesn't contradict each other even if I take your presuppositions. Compulsion in religion is still forbidden albeit the Jizya/Tax stuff. Moreover, the very fact that your own worldview enacts compulsion shows your hypocrisy. Your alleged 'Strawman' during the debate was also flawed because the government law examples were completely relevent to the topic(Compulsion). Be a man and accept that you were intellectually battered by Daniel and Sharif.
@@robmtt.6676 If you want to live in an Islamic State, you must pay the Jizya otherwise you cannot stay in that state. It doesn't talk about converting people to Islam forcefully within that state. You've no idea how the Shariah works.
Brother Daniel always amazes me,
I would very much encourage Muslims not only to watch these duaat but also to fellow traditional scholars who have ijazat and who are not reformers or don't speak about certain topics that are very important. I personally fellow and benefited hugely ustaad abdurrahman Hassan from al madrasatu al umariyyah RUclips channel and also from brother Daniel haqiqatjou.
Dear brother hamza Allah bless you you are doing great work on this planet and we love you
Daniel is a great addition ma sha Allah thank you guys👍
Really??
@@moe1317 ya
@@yes-wo7qn Nope. He won't still give his family as sex slaves.
@@yes-wo7qn he supports raping female captives
He really not, he's a extremist with a red pill ideolog. I really dislike him
Amazing that you brought an amazing non apologetic person like Daniel.
Gotta laugh at the awkwardness when he says how it is about how female captives don’t need to consent (when he corrected Hamza) and they all went silent 😂
In my humble opinion the answer to every naturalist is one sentence
They conveniently explain everything in the boundary of the universe. Just because they are happy with that answer, it doesn’t mean it’s a satisfying answer.
Muslim apologist explain everything "God did it" ...So Atheist answer with a more satisfying way. At least they try to propose some natural mechanism. The theist position is no different from "Magic did it"
@@socratesson4320 who said we do not agree with the naturalistic explanation?
clear ignorance
it has been maybe more than 2 years that u come to islamic channels and u still don't have a clue about islamic beliefs
but of course u rejected islam after reading about it from authentic books right?
lol
@@socratesson4320 *"The theist position is no different from "Magic did it""*
ouah, It's the world upside down. Only atheists believe in the famous "nothing gives birth to something": 0+0 = 1 by magic. We Muslims argue logically, and we have been telling you for years that you think with your feet. Don't bring us down to your level. Thank you
Sure, but naturalist could say back to Creationist that an All Powerful All Loving God sounds Too good to be true
@@matthewpopp1054 well muslims don't believe in all loving
we say most loving
your argument is "sounds to good to be true"
this is how u disproved it
appeal to emotion i think
using the same argument that u used i can prove anything including god
will u accept it ?
ofc not
By default a true God fearing believer will never be oppressive in his actions!
Thank you bro Hamza for having brother Daniel on. Huge fan bro Daniel 💙
The arena is back Masha Allah
Alhamdulilah
3:32:42 Excellent answer from brother Ijaz. God The All-knowing, The Just, can not be subjective. (A human mind on the other hand is finite and therefore is subjective.)
As a Muslim, this is not Islamophobia, this is just ignorance and opposition to the faith, brought upon by fear and hatred. May God forgive the disbelievers and guide them to the light. Ameen
I honestly love these . I'm seeking a religion right now and these are exactly what I need
Curious with regards to your findings so far.
May Allah make your search easy.
@@suleimanabdul-lateefbawiis5088 Sorry this is late. Still studying and reading Quran my friend
@@bongotv6292 May Allah the creator of the universe guide you to the straight path..I recommend you watch the quran recitation with English subtitles.
I think when Sheriff takes the gentleman on a journey, it should be allowed to flow.
Agreed.
Thanks guys you guys are the best. May Allah reward you all for inspiring all of us Muslims and non-Muslims, helping us broaden our knowledge and giving us inspiration. Having said this all that’s left to say is…….D to the A to the N to the I to the E to the L DANIEL….Rasakallah hayre brother…loving your style and rebutle technique brother..u is smashing the ball out the park everytime bro.!!!!
THIS WAS MILES GREATER THEN ANY CROSSOVER Mashallah
Everyone should go and watch genius of Islam by brother Daniel, it would worth it.
I have re watched this stream more than any other, great panel SubhanAllah 👍❤️
In modern warfare you don't need to take slaves/prisoners of war. Now they just push a button and kill them all equally instead.
I always enjoy how the panel have so much knowledge, vrs just preaching some spirituality.
Love your passion for Allah’s Law brother Daniel, if the Muslims did not take on these women, what would have become of them
mashaallah ijaz is a very accomplished and knowledgeable brother, may Allah preserve, grow, and protect him.
Please invite Daniel again …. he’s an absolute beast MA💪🏻💪🏻
May Allah Accept your works, and make it a means of acceptance and Guidance for the Ummah!
Mash'Allah what a panel.
Alhamdulillahi rabbi al'alameen
Me me me me me and my emotions, reality is subjective to my emotions, I'm hurt, I want to be loved 😢 I truly belive I'm a nice person, I belive in loving others, I'll find meaning in everything to suit that narrative & reject whatever questions it, I'll create my own reality, everything must revolve around that. But I don't know why I'm still stuck, not growing up to be more responsible, things are fading away but I must cling on until I'm completely broken, I can see that but can't help as I can't accept I could be wrong. I'm not defeated even I know I'm becoming weaker as days go by and becoming apparently clear that what I claim to belive in doesn't make much sense. I must keep going until I die.
Salaam brother's gud 2c u all as usually,I love taking on the knowledge u present and explain.I learn new information all the time wen I watch yor vids,Ijaz and all of u r well knowledgeable and he puts a smile on my face aswell as Hamza.Great work take care khudahafiz.
I'm am sorry, but just like what Rob said to leave the knowledge in school, he has left his brain somewhere.
Exactly he is Christian that is what he suppos to do 🤷♀️
He's a hypocrite.
Same with ray if u noticed they all sound similar Frank etc
@@user-nr1vv8lj4s exactly they are in the same box 🥴
@@arshatarifin7442 💯🤷♀️
Rob: Government doesn't force you to keep the law.
Yeah, I wonder what law enforcement is all about. Every time the term disingenuous pops up I think of Rob.
"Gov doesnt forced to keep the law..."?? Question for Rob...how many times you broke the Gov law and get punished for it...??🤔🤔🤔
nice new one sharif... may allah bless you and your fams. also for all panelists
Even though Some Streams are nearly 4hrs long We Still Can’t get Enough of them!! 😂👏👏👏
May Allah ( SWT ) guide, Mr. Trevor!
2:25:30 argument is like
Teacher: It's raining cats and dogs.
Why so serious: No teacher you are wrong. How can cats and dogs rain???
Firas Zahbi needs to be on one of these
Hamza doesn’t play around. 😂
Sure doesn’t, may Allah bless him 👌🏾
Brother Daniel haqiqatju ❤️.
Ustadh Sharif ❤️
Hashim ❤️
The beautiful thing about Islam is that it has the answer for any plight a man may encounter. A true human manuel would HAVE to deal with war and the uglier side of the human condition. Islam almost aways suggest to not go to war, not to fight, set up treaties with others, seek for peace but we live a world were that cannot always happen and therefore there are rules on how to deal with issues when other human beings transgress the bounds which makes Islam unlike any other ism, religion or system.
Nice to see Brother Daniel on the Show.
Dear brothers Allah bless you you are doing great work on this planet and we love you 😍 ❤ 💜 💖 💕 💗
Rob when cant understand the point "its a complete strawman"
Sherif makes me think too much. And I enjoy it
Hamza, Malaysian Chinese believes in mixture of ancestral worship with taoism or buddhism, but a lot of them are Christians too
Mashallah my brothers are so humble I. Knowledge and don't just display it to show off, just when it us needed
One cannot physically and mentally abuse/torture concubines.
Props to br. Daniel for pointing out the goofiness of modern liberal notion of consent, which even they admit is a turn off, asking for a verbal yes at every step. Real humans do it with body language and foreplay.
The Prophet on foreplay-
the Prophet pbuh said “One of you should not fulfil one’s sexual need from one’s wife like an animal, rather there should be between them foreplay of kissing and words.” The Prophet goes on to say, “Three people are cruel: …a person who has sex with his wife before foreplay.”
Umar R.A had a person stoned for ****ing an enemy woman.
Also google war brides of WW2.
so when Genghis Khan and his armies ravaged through muslim lands they didn't rape and enslave? You're delusional if you think so. Also the Quran does not allow an unlimited harem of sex slaves/concubines. Read Quran 2:221, 4:25, 24:1-3, 24:32-33, 60:10-12, which makes it clear that concubinage is prohibited in Islam and that the only permissible relations with formerly slave men/women is through marriage with the additional conditional that they have to be believers.
@@MrMShake sure, I wasn't saying what you thought I was saying, you are projecting bro
So God says it okay to rape POWs?
@@poweredbyrice5708 can you read?
@@Life-bt9yo Read what?
The verse 9:29 is a command to fight the Byzantine Romans and other hostile powers who were planning an invasion against the Muslims in Arabia. In context, it is a distinct response to aggression, in particular the assassination of one of the Prophet’s ambassadors. On the surface, this appears to be an open-ended command to fight non-Muslims until they are conquered. However, a fundamental principle of Quranic exegesis (tafseer) is that the verses must be understood in the context in which they were revealed (asbab an-nuzul) and in conjunction with other verses delineating the rules of warfare. At-Tabari and other commentators record that this verse was revealed concerning the expedition of Tabuk. At-Tabari records: Mujahid reported concerning the verse, “Fight those who do not believe in Allah and the Last Day…” that it was revealed when Muhammad and his companions were commanded with the expedition of Tabuk. Source: Tafseer At-Tabari 9:29 The expedition of Tabuk was preceded by the battle of Mu’tah which began when the emissary of the Prophet was assassinated while delivering a letter to a Roman ally.
Ibn Al-Qayyim writes: The cause of the battle was that the Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, sent Harith ibn Umair Al-Azdi of the tribe of Lihb with his letter to Syria for the Roman king or Busra. He presented it to Sharhabeel ibn Amr Al-Ghassani and he bound him and struck his neck. Never had an ambassador of the Messenger of Allah been killed besides him. The Prophet was upset by that when news reached him and he dispatched an expedition. Source: Zaad Al-Ma’ad 336
Safiur Rahman writes: The Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, had sent Al-Harith ibn Umair Al-Azdi on an errand to carry a letter to the ruler of Busra. On his way, he was intercepted by Sharhabeel ibn Amr Al-Ghassani, the governor of Al-Balqa and a close ally to Caesar, the Byzantine Emperor. Al-Harith was tied and beheaded by Al-Ghassani. Source: The Sealed Nectar p. 245
This was the first act of Roman aggression that further led to the expedition of Tabuk concerning which the verse 9:29 was revealed. The verse describes the aggressors as those “who do not believe in Allah and the Last Day,” because they committed this act of treachery. Executing emissaries from other countries is a war crime that could never be committed by those who sincerely believe in God. Anas ibn Malik reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said: There is no faith for one who cannot be trusted. There is no religion for one who cannot uphold a covenant. Source: Musnad Ahmad 11975, Grade: Hasan
Safiur Rahman further describes the reason the conflict took place: The Byzantine power, which was considered the greatest military force on earth at that time, showed an unjustifiable opposition towards Muslims. As we have already mentioned, their opposition started at killing the ambassador of the Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, Al-Harith ibn Umair Al-Azdi, by Sharhabeel ibn Amr Al-Ghassani. The ambassador was then carrying a message from the Prophet to the ruler of Busra. We have also stated that the Prophet consequently dispatched a brigade under the command of Zaid bin Haritha, who had a fierce fight against the Byzantines at Mu’tah. Although Muslim forces could not have revenge on those haughty overproud tyrants, the confrontation itself had a great impression on the Arabs all over Arabia.
Caesar, who could neither ignore the great benefit that the battle of Mu’tah had brought to Muslims, nor could he disregard the Arab tribes’ expectations of independence and their hopes of getting free from his influence and reign, nor he could ignore their alliance to the Muslims. Realizing all that, Caesar was aware of the progressive danger threatening his borders, especially the fronts of Syria which were neighboring Arab lands. So he concluded that demolition of the Muslims’ power had grown an urgent necessity. This decision of his should, in his opinion, be achieved before the Muslims become too powerful to conquer and raise troubles and unrest in the adjacent Arab territories.
To meet these exigencies, Caesar mustered a huge army of the Byzantines and pro-Roman Ghassanite tribes to launch a decisive bloody battle against the Muslims.
Source: The Sealed Nectar p. 272
Man I absolutely loved this live , I wished Imran and Abbas were there with the rest of you guys it would've been epic 🔥🔥
Hamza has dealt with the public so long he feels like someone is always trying to deceive him and this is a wrong approach. The one Malay brother I felt was genuine and I felt he was speaking the truth. Christians don't know their own doctrine enough so they speak utter tripe to non Christians and serenade them with love stories. The Malay brother falls into the same pitfalls as many people intrigued by Islam, they fall victim to the cesspool of misinformation online and they need clarification.
If you think he's sincere watch the most recent live. He went with the name Driller
@@missmong12 I seen it. I feel he's interested in the truth but is totally brainwashed by the ridiculousness online.
This china man is Malaysian. I do not know if he really understands what Yu people r talking about. He had asked about sex before. I think he has sex in his mind. I have a feeling that he has been encouraged to ask this question just to belittle Islam
He is a dishonest chap. He is Malaysian Chinese. I do not think he understands what Yu people r talking about. Just to belittle Islam
He has been asking question Re sex before
جزاكم الله خيرا
Hamza and Hashim ! Both of you checkmated the silly Mistertotheroot perfectly. good job!👍 The way he brought the question no doubt he is not just a christian but maybe the christian missionary .
@@kisharai actually that's you arguing from icky
It's like seeing all the marvel and dc superheros come together on Arena. Amazing stream but it would be way better if actual scholars come here to discuss with such an amazing pannel.
@Pull out The lapel well cringe maybe for you. But yeah the analogy stands. All these are brilliant brothers from different channels are all together on arena.
And if she doesn't consent then what? Tie her down and have at it, never heard of such a practice in seerah?
@Pull out The lapel proof?
@Pull out The lapel he does explain the senerio. Like the ones you are against at war would show you or your women children any mercy? Remember we are talking about pre modern warfare. And back then there were no rules for war captives you could do anything you want. Islam gave them rights even tho they were captives of war. If you cant see that i cant make you and there would be no point in argueing.
@@thepathofguidance5684 he didnt say you have to tie her up and have your way with her anyway.
Jazakum Allah Khair
We can only judge by the apparent Hamza. He said he is not, then that is all we can go with.
Interesting while discussing origin of life from the "magic custard" Existential Naturalist corrects Hamza saying "well from clay..."
"We created man from sounding clay, from mud moulded into shape..." (15:26
Alhamdulillahi rabbi al'alameen
Al-Adab Al-Mufrad 188
Jabir ibn 'Abdullah said, "The Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, advised that slaves should be well-treated. He said, 'Feed them from what you eat and clothe them from what you wear. Do not punish what Allah has created.'"
حَدَّثَنَا سَعِيدُ بْنُ سُلَيْمَانَ، قَالَ: حَدَّثَنَا مَرْوَانُ بْنُ مُعَاوِيَةَ، قَالَ: حَدَّثَنَا الْفَضْلُ بْنُ مُبَشِّرٍ قَالَ: سَمِعْتُ جَابِرَ بْنَ عَبْدِ اللهِ يَقُولُ: كَانَ النَّبِيُّ صلى الله عليه وسلم يُوصِي بِالْمَمْلُوكِينَ خَيْرًا وَيَقُولُ: أَطْعِمُوهُمْ مِمَّا تَأْكُلُونَ، وَأَلْبِسُوهُمْ مِنْ لَبُوسِكُمْ، وَلاَ تُعَذِّبُوا خَلْقَ اللهِ عَزَّ وَجَلَّ.
Grade: Sahih (Al-Albani) صـحـيـح (الألباني)حكم :
Reference : Al-Adab Al-Mufrad 188In-book reference : Book 9, Hadith 33English translation : Book 9, Hadith 188
Jami` at-Tirmidhi 1945
Abu Dharr narrated that the Messenger of Allah said :
"Allah has made some of your brothers as slaves under your care. So whoever has his brother under his care, then let him feed him from his food, and let him clothe him from his clothes. And do not give him a duty that he cannot bear, and if you give him a duty he cannot bear, then assist him with it."
I hate how Daniel turns defensive when it comes to women in any context at all. I know he hates the modern twisted narratives by the feminists and liberals but denying what is actually in our tradition is pushing it. Look up what happens to the women POWs when they become mothers. ( spoilers she's no longer a slave) I know that is br Daniel's explanation but that's just one aspect which may or may not be true and many scholars of the past disagree with this. Explain why they practiced "coitus interruptus" with these women and asked the Prophet ﷺ about it's permissibility.
I dislike the word concubines because of the weird picture it brings to mind (cuz of movies) of some perverted king with half naked women around him.
That is not Islam to be very clear. They were assigned to the believers to absorb them into muslim society. And only *one* believer could be intimate with her and he would be known. Many slaves accepted Islam after they saw the good treatment from the Muslims as opposed to other nations.
To some extent I agree, esp the usage of term "concubine /sex slave". Its better to avoid considering the current prejudice attached to it
@@jerusalem5646 hahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahhahah
No. Not the *&%$ you have in your head.
*_Masha'Allah, Super panel_*
Bring daniel back !
really enjoy conversation with trevor..
I'm in Malaysia, he is a Chinese kind guy looking for the truth and u maybe just drive him away form the truth, please brother HAMZA I love but that was something Allah will ask u about.
Haqiqatou is good no sugarcoating I like his style
Salaam only one God and it's Allah SWT love here from South Africa Johannesburg pray 5 time a day
There will always be slavery even today human trafficking, the prison system, etc. I think people think prohibiting something or "abolishing" it ends the issue, but we fail to see that when you make something illegal you create a black market. That's why Islam has rules and strong punishments for violating those limits to really deter those elements from continuing. It won't fully stop all but will definitely limit its reach and presence.
"35. Or were they created out of nothing? Or are they the creators?
36. Or did they create the heavens and the earth? In fact, they are not certain." sou52
You will never come across Hindus who will be able to defend their religion. I am from India and I have not met a single indian who can even name the scriptures of their religion. At best they will tell you about bhagvad gita, ramayan, mahabharat etc. ask them if they have studied Upanishads or Vedas and they will be stumped. Hinduism of present day mostly is an amalgamation of nationalism, rituals(with no basis) and anecdotes.
Zakir naik has already destroyed their false beliefs using their scriptures.
Hindutva which is a prevalent ideology in India with current regime is an extemist ideology.
I like this Daniel he makes some great points
Good stream, Jazakallahu khairan
We will not be able to breathe or exist without Allah's favour's on us.
My sheiks are You !! Wow , i do not want to be mean here towards our Brothers but this is also happening in my own area , we tent to ask thing to those we adore of like even if they do not posses the right knowledge about something what is being asked . the problem is with those who come with questions and are not able to think whom to ask which question but I am glad you brothers correct these people
Brothers please if you gonna put muslims on, dont laugh at Them and so forth, because i think that brother yilmaz has some waswasa issues and he asked like is this from shaytaan? Then got kicked from the room.. next time show some mercy he might had issues you could give him short advise on waswasa
Dear brothers, I have an important comment to make, and I hope you find the time to read it.
When it comes to war in Islam, it is very pragmatic, and the main principle is, Reciprocity
now when it comes to slaves and concubines, you are discussing the sharia law way back in time, before the emergence of the current regulation that meet the development in the world.
Before the age of strong central states, where the state can house prisoners of war, all what you have said was right. ( with some additional notes I will add below)
However, now all agree, that the current UN agreed laws on treatment of prisoners of war is 100% sharia compatible and agreed upon.
In wars fought between Arabs and Israel, India and Pakistan, UN laws were followed. No more slaves or concubines.
Now back to the main issue, you really missed a lot of rights that Sharia gives to Slaves and this list applies to both men and women.
• They have to eat the same food you eat, and dress from the same cloth you dress.
• They have to live in the same standard of living that you do.
• You cant call them ‘my slave’
• They have the right to be set free if they asked by a contract that states how much they will pay for getting their freedom back. Actually it is encouraged to do so. بيت مال المسلمين - aka House of money. i.e. Ministry of Finance for Muslims, must aid in this contract if the slave could not do it on his own. ( وَالَّذِينَ يَبْتَغُونَ الْكِتَابَ مِمَّا مَلَكَتْ أَيْمَانُكُمْ فَكَاتِبُوهُمْ إِنْ عَلِمْتُمْ فِيهِمْ خَيْرًا ۖ وَآتُوهُم مِّن مَّالِ اللَّهِ الَّذِي آتَاكُمْ ۚ) 24:33
• If they asked to get married, they are allowed, بيت مال المسلمين again, helps in the cost of marriage if they can not afford it.
• You are asked to educate them if they are wise and capable of learning.
• If a concubines gives birth, she and her child are free.
• You cant force a religion on them.
• You can't ask them to do a work more than what they can handle.
• If the war is over. Use them for prisoner exchange or set them free as a favor ! . 47:4( فَإِمَّا مَنًّا بَعْدُ وَإِمَّا فِدَاءً)
Since I am not sure if you will read this, I will stop here.
May Allah guide Trevor. I always hear him call the show.
Asalaamalukun wa ratnatullah all Praise is for Allah the most mercifully brother your work alhimdillah .Start to listen to your guest Hamza I'd you spoke to me in the way that I've seen you brother. What if you turn some one away from the straight path
Adam is so in portent
May Allah guide us all and forgive our sin and be of those that enter the Garden
These clowns couldn't answer the Malaysian guy's simple questions, instead they tried to shift the field and attack his beliefs instead, but I liked the questioner, he was firm, and always went back to his question. When he finally pissed off Hamza, he labelled him as a christian and kicked him out. Utter childish behaviour synonyms to a child losing an argument and throwing a temper tantrum.
But you know what? Overall this was an important moment for these clowns. I like that Daniel was invited to this podcast because he doesn't sugar-coat anything, and he's more educated than every other panelist present... He basically destroyed the narrative that Hamza has been advocating against for so long, that there is no sex slavery in Islam. Contrary to popular delusion, sex slavery is very common in Islam, and in fact its regulated. In pre-Islamic Arabia, slavery was just locally run with most tribes having their own set of rules, and many tribes actually abstaining from it all together. But with the emergence of Islam, Mashallah it became a legal right through its regularization via the Quran and Sunnah. Every one had the right to have a concubine (If you're male), and a slave of any other sense. And no, there is no concept of consent in pre-Islamic Arabia, and the reason why the Quran doesn't address consent is because Arab morality hadn't evolved enough to consider that consent of a slave. That was just not a thing.
Using movies like P.O.W. Captives, or the atrocities of WW2, WW1 against women and children to justify Islamic slavery is just quite literally shooting yourself on the foot and show-casing your delusional hypocrisy. Because you AGREE that slavery, and sexual slavery is wrong in every case, and especially in modern times when our morality is so much better than pre-islamic and even early islamic Arabia. But what did the Quran do? instead of making it prohibited, it regulated it and made it quite literally legal.
You also mentioned that you can sign treaties and whatnot to say you won't take war captives, which means you AGREE that there is a way to prevent war captives from being taken right? There exists a possible solution and that means war captives are not something that just can't be stopped because it was so common..... so if you agree to that then why didn't the Quran and Sunnah utilize this method? why not sign a treaty with humanity saying no we won't kidnap captives, rape women and children and men under our 'possession' Why? because their morality was primitive, to them it was a common practice. Islamic morality was just morality of that time, and not an example for all humanity to come because it's already failed us. It's very unfortunately to be honest. I wish Islam was better.
Before all the white-knights jump to say I misunderstand Islam, I have a Bachelor's of Hadith and Islamic Sciences from Madina University. A masters in religious theology and a phd in biochemistry. SO no I am not uneducated, but you might know something I don't know, so please feel free to discuss this with me in a respectful and academic manner.
@A K sure so you agree Islam objectified women, children and men as objects to be used for war tactics. And how does making a woman into a concubine serve as WAR tactic after the war is supposedly over?
I also have a BS in basic sciences which I don’t feel is necessary to state as its not an Islamic subject.
The clowns are in the comments don't have the guts to get on the stream. If they never give him the time of day they have reason. They are spending hours every week answering questions etc. Please don't waist our time with your nonsense. All these AP n CP have nothing
i think you guys were a bit too harsh on the mistertotheroot guy
Great stream
Mujrimun means criminal, it does not mean Athiest…
The first guy was very knowledgeable and respectful .
The second guy is a complicated mind.
On the contrary he knew very little about a wide range of subjects which is why his arguments collapsed immediately upon the slightest scrutiny
I love the convo with the 1st guest.
Oh and I Can't wait for utd to get battered 😀
The main goal is to spread our beautiful Deen never forget
The context of war in the premodern era as understood by all, the winner will take all. That includes the defeated army's men women and children coupled with the material resources. They will be distributed among the winners as slaves. Those people will become the property straightaway. Hence, whether they have the right to be consented if they wanted to become slaves or not, is just waste of time. Secondly, the verse in question addressed the permissible sex for the Muslim men, particularly in premodern era, which was limited to wives and slave females. The questioner asked whether the slave females were consented before sex? The answer is, in those days if the wives were consented before sex, the slave females would have been treated the same.
Nice mental gymnastics you did there to justify r-a-p-e
For surly among humans are those who are ingrates to their creator.
The sun, rain, snow, wind, time, heat, cold, the seasons the meat of animals and plants sea creatures etc... are all from our creator yet humans are ingrates. Have they not reflect on what they have seen and experienced. Let us not overlook the gifts and favoŕs that our creator gave us for surely among humans are those who are ingrates.
I believe the whole situation need absolute knowledge in the languages spoken in the Fertile Crescent entirely . Everything falls back to words spoken and written
📍True: The Arena and The Perfect Storm need better and worthy guests, at least a Tenths of the panellist
i like how brother hamza other relgion guy into the middel of screen LOL XD . but its really nice orginazed i like how brother hamza the lion deal with the screen placement ^^ . also his knowedlge is just masha.a allah . may ALLAh reward you brothers .
1:57:22 Alexander and Darius III battle at Issus can answer the question. Darius III brought all of his family members at the battle and his family members got captured by Alexander after his army got defeated.
Zindabaad 👍🏿❣️🌹💯🇬🇧 !!!
Just a thought I had on what existential naturalist was saying. When we go to sleep we’re unconscious, and consciousness still continues in the form of dreams. And sleep and death are related in the Quran. I don’t know what it means but I’m sure the Quran explains it
Daniel compares a captive having to consent to a man having sex with her, as the same as to the Vietnamese people consenting to getting bombed.
But if he were asked if he condemns the act of the Vietnamese people being bombed, no doubt the answer would be yes. What an extraordinary way to try and defend his premise.
Existentialism means knowing there is no good or evil or one force controlling, it’s just it.
"Haqiqatjou" Sounds like a move from Naruto 🤣🤣🤣
Rob hits and misses EVERY TIME
Please please let Hamza speak. He speaks with more logical relevancy.