Hi dude, just thought I'd say thanks for the mage content, also been maining mage alongside you this expac and the last two uploads have gone down smoothly. Thanks Mike & Ghost.
Thanks for these videos buddy! Since the last one about not being overwhelmed, I started looking, found and am now starting to raid heroically, just because of a simple video and a nudge. You're awesome.
Hey Preach, new WoW player here, been watching your vids since I found your channel. Great content, loving the TDP videos + guides. This kind of in-depth decision making video is really interesting, hope you make more in the future!
Love the detailed analysis of your kill. Though I did not do ToS Mythic watching this video is like taking part of that experience. Thank you and keep it up :)
This video is really amazing apart from all of the joke comments it really shows what a higher level player you are and shows what it truly takes to be a higher level player this and your 'dont get overwhelmed' videos have really revived my hopes of becoming a mythic raider myself in the future keep up the good work
"The damage at this point is in the millions. Every second. Something absolutely stupid. And the nightmare is, this could kill me quite easily. But... I have a job to do." Preach I love you.
huh, good to know that's how avatar works, I tried pulling the maiden out of the realities that was supposed to pop up and he chose to cast it 20 sec later.
If there's one thing I've learned when fighting MMO bosses on Hard/Savage/Mythic/Nightmare difficulty, it's that you shouldn't ever avoid mechanics because the boss is "almost dead". All it takes is a single person to mess up a single mechanic at 0.1% health to let the entire group down.
hey preach! I noticed you said you weren't sure why the marked spot never got hit.. well if you look at the platform from a top view you can easily make out a checkerboard on it with each platform being a square in the board... the tornadoes follow a strict pathing going one way upon spawning following the squares left to right up to down and vice versa standing on the corners of the squares will guarantee you will not be hit by the tornados the indicated markers are just "perfect spots to maximize dps while still avoiding them :) my team is currently on this fight was very helpful btw and ty!
I don't know where else to write this as I don't have twitter. I did it, I finally got the werebear! I rolled a druid alt and leveled him up to 110 for the skin because of your videos. I'm shaking right now, lol.
I was raiding Normal ToS last week and we made it up to Fallen Avatar, which was great because I have never tanked this raid before exept for LFR, so even though I was completely new to this and didn't really know the tactics we made it to Fallen Avatar, we first wiped because we didn't have enough DPS on one occation to get the cleansing protocol off. Second time we didn't have enough DPS in the second phase and we all died to lava. Hopefully this will help so that we'll get 'im next time.
True.... our damage dealers can't get above 1 million dps on Avatar hc with ~930 equip, just because they don't care about improving, letting the tanks and healers deal with a fights that take 3 minutes longer than they should... On avatar this doesn't work though ...
That scenario where "somebody" has to do X because you can't and then you either get too many or not enough I gotta ask... does your guild not do battle buddies? Or to put it another way, under-studies. Meaning that before the raid your guild assigns someone to take your job if you can't or shouldn't for whatever reason when you tag them in.
Hey Preach! Would you please make a video how you save time during raids and do raiding effectively? For example ressing after a wipe, dealing with rebuffs etc. I would like to get into the thought process of habits and metholody you use during raiding to maximise the pullnumber during a raid session. Want to get into a higher level of raidleading and have little to no experience. Would be a pleasure to see that video! Thanks, Mark
Easiest thing how to learn raiding habits is to join an estabilished guild or if u want to create a guild with ur friends from nothing (pretty ambitious plan :-) ) watch some streams of ppl raiding (there are several ppl streaming their mythic ToS). But IMO what really makes ur raid lose plenty of time is ppl goin AFK.
I have to wonder, do you not know that the logo is directly on the minimap? You said a couple times "look at the map during streams and now during this video".
I don't see how Iceblocking that Dark Winds would've caused your raid to wipe there. You could've still soaked the Meteor later on and died there, no biggie. The choice was either die now or die later - you gambled on your healers being able to keep you up and it worked out well. But that was definitely not an 'omg we're gonny wipe here if I'm not going to shine by doing this and that'-moment.
The problem was as you can see at around 21:30 the dark mark activated before the meteor landed. If he didn't have iceblock for that the mark would've killed him before the meteor lands, thus making him unable to soak the meteor and therefore wiping the raid.
Fallen Avatar is IMO much more entertaining encounter than KJ (both on mythic). We spent so many hours on KJ and after luckilly killing him once, we just agreed to not even look at him on mythic difficulty again. Last bosses in Legion in general are pretty shitty - Helya, Gul'Dan, KJ... all the same pattern - lots of time spent in boring phases and then boss wipes u in the beggining of last phase just so U have to get through all again. It makes progression frustrating.
My guild started progressing on mythic Avatar. Did 2 raid nights on him, practising p2 and last time we started with p1. Too bad it is very melee unfriendly (the amount you can bring). Last time we almost cancelled the raid because we 2nd tank couldn't make it, so I said I will tank it. The boss position for 2 rupture was also a problem for us since it was so tight timmed, but me and other tnak quickly dealth with it by having me to taunt from a range right after 2nd desolate and quickly move him to the edge and then wraith walk back. Best part was when people didn't think I can tank it (1st raid night a healer tried to tank it as guardian and had problems) and thought will be squishy, but then didn't say anything when they saw how wrong they were. (not to be dissing anyone btw) :D
For clarification, they didn't thought dk was bad tank or anything, but for both Avatar progress nights, 1 tank couldn't make it and on 1st night, we had 5 healers ready, so once changed from resto druid to guardian and since he isn't used to it, he was taking a lot of damage and sometimes boss reckt him. For 2nd night, we had 4 healers ready, so the druid couldn't tank and they thought I will die a lot if I tank it, but didn't.
Yep, just what other people have said. Vantus Runes are used for a specific boss and give a decent amount of extra Vers and last until next server reset. You can only have one active at a time though, and they can only be applied to one specific boss.
I'm sure you will find guides on the internet if you look and better than what preach does remember his guides are really basic and doesn't go into the class in-depth
class discords are pretty nice for that. Find a highly skilled streamer so u can learn some un-orthodox stuff and run mythic+ dungeons over and over to get everything in muscle memory. When all decisions regarding dps are made automatically, u can think better about ur positioning etc which boosts ur dps even further.
I watched for Drama Time. It was my favorite day of the week, Friday, when it came out. I miss the nostalgia because I don’t like the game as it exists today. I support Preach on Twitch but if drama time is gone, so am I. Nothing personal, I have limited finances and don’t even know what is going on in the game nowadays. I am going to give it awhile but I pray the lore of years past comes back.
Could you argu that you should just follow you assignment and depend on the next person to be there. Like they're responsible for getting there to switch on the stacks. You shouldn't have to carry these people, they either be there or find someone else who can get it done?
Please do more of these type of videos! Hearing your thought process is extremely interesting.
this vid was amazing, please do more encounter/thought process analyzing in the future!
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Hi dude, just thought I'd say thanks for the mage content, also been maining mage alongside you this expac and the last two uploads have gone down smoothly. Thanks Mike & Ghost.
Thanks for these videos buddy! Since the last one about not being overwhelmed, I started looking, found and am now starting to raid heroically, just because of a simple video and a nudge. You're awesome.
these raid vids you've been putting out and your current endgame experiences have just been the jam mate. keep er up.
This is my ultimate favorite vid you've ever made. Absolutely FREAKEN AWESOME!
Brilliant video, a fantastic glimpse into the moment by moment process of mythic progression. Please do more of these!
Rally love these kinds of videos. Please do more of them
Hey Preach, new WoW player here, been watching your vids since I found your channel. Great content, loving the TDP videos + guides. This kind of in-depth decision making video is really interesting, hope you make more in the future!
fantastic video, really enjoyable and very insightful. Makes me wish I was still raiding mythics
Massively helpful, pedagogical, and entertaining video. 10/10 :)!
Love the detailed analysis of your kill. Though I did not do ToS Mythic watching this video is like taking part of that experience. Thank you and keep it up :)
I second what other people have said: this was awesome, Mike, and I'd love to see more fight analysis videos. Thanks for sharing :)
Going through the fight and explaining the thought process behind how you play is something I wish you would do more.
This video is really amazing apart from all of the joke comments it really shows what a higher level player you are and shows what it truly takes to be a higher level player this and your 'dont get overwhelmed' videos have really revived my hopes of becoming a mythic raider myself in the future keep up the good work
Thanks man! This has helped me be a better player!
"If X happens? Fugget about it." I love your casual explanation of how shit hits the fan xD
This was a great watch, do more of these :D
"The damage at this point is in the millions. Every second. Something absolutely stupid. And the nightmare is, this could kill me quite easily. But... I have a job to do."
Preach I love you.
Close enough to a workshop for me! Awesome video
My heart was up at my throat just watching this... Mythic Raiders man...
Anyone else notice the greek whispering him a bit after the kill?
At 14:54, you can see me stepping in the beam 0.1 sec before it dropps the debuff, feels bad man :
rip XD
I watched it disappear the second it singed your hair XD
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Hey preach amazing video, just love how understandable you made this fight. Hope you'll do more of these in the future!
Your ability as a fire mage gives me the horn, great video btw
huh, good to know that's how avatar works, I tried pulling the maiden out of the realities that was supposed to pop up and he chose to cast it 20 sec later.
If there's one thing I've learned when fighting MMO bosses on Hard/Savage/Mythic/Nightmare difficulty, it's that you shouldn't ever avoid mechanics because the boss is "almost dead". All it takes is a single person to mess up a single mechanic at 0.1% health to let the entire group down.
hey preach! I noticed you said you weren't sure why the marked spot never got hit.. well if you look at the platform from a top view you can easily make out a checkerboard on it with each platform being a square in the board... the tornadoes follow a strict pathing going one way upon spawning following the squares left to right up to down and vice
versa standing on the corners of the squares will guarantee you will not be hit by the tornados the indicated markers are just "perfect spots to maximize dps while still avoiding them :) my team is currently on this fight was very helpful btw and ty!
Proof that this guy is in fact a super sayian.
Very well played as a fire mage. I'm still progressing this hell on my resto shammy.
Good to see you guys still cling on the Meme I brought to the guild xD. xx Dawnlol
I don't know where else to write this as I don't have twitter. I did it, I finally got the werebear! I rolled a druid alt and leveled him up to 110 for the skin because of your videos. I'm shaking right now, lol.
I was raiding Normal ToS last week and we made it up to Fallen Avatar, which was great because I have never tanked this raid before exept for LFR, so even though I was completely new to this and didn't really know the tactics we made it to Fallen Avatar, we first wiped because we didn't have enough DPS on one occation to get the cleansing protocol off. Second time we didn't have enough DPS in the second phase and we all died to lava. Hopefully this will help so that we'll get 'im next time.
The best I've ever seen..
Hardest part of raiding is getting competent people.
Na, the hardest part of raiding is creating a raid in which people become competent.
True.... our damage dealers can't get above 1 million dps on Avatar hc with ~930 equip, just because they don't care about improving, letting the tanks and healers deal with a fights that take 3 minutes longer than they should... On avatar this doesn't work though ...
David, if u think u can do better, try different guild. Saves u a LOT of headache.
That scenario where "somebody" has to do X because you can't and then you either get too many or not enough I gotta ask... does your guild not do battle buddies? Or to put it another way, under-studies. Meaning that before the raid your guild assigns someone to take your job if you can't or shouldn't for whatever reason when you tag them in.
great video, really liked it
Would love to see more commented mythic plays.
Hey Preach!
Would you please make a video how you save time during raids and do raiding effectively? For example ressing after a wipe, dealing with rebuffs etc.
I would like to get into the thought process of habits and metholody you use during raiding to maximise the pullnumber during a raid session.
Want to get into a higher level of raidleading and have little to no experience.
Would be a pleasure to see that video!
Thanks, Mark
Easiest thing how to learn raiding habits is to join an estabilished guild or if u want to create a guild with ur friends from nothing (pretty ambitious plan :-) ) watch some streams of ppl raiding (there are several ppl streaming their mythic ToS).
But IMO what really makes ur raid lose plenty of time is ppl goin AFK.
I have to wonder, do you not know that the logo is directly on the minimap?
You said a couple times "look at the map during streams and now during this video".
Ghosty does the editing and overlays, he probably just forgot it.
This was awesome
Great video!
being my raids main tank, yea that 3 feet is a nightmare :p
Hope you make more vids like this.
by far better then those Shatboss guides of do this do that
more vids like this please
I don't see how Iceblocking that Dark Winds would've caused your raid to wipe there.
You could've still soaked the Meteor later on and died there, no biggie.
The choice was either die now or die later - you gambled on your healers being able to keep you up and it worked out well. But that was definitely not an 'omg we're gonny wipe here if I'm not going to shine by doing this and that'-moment.
The problem was as you can see at around 21:30 the dark mark activated before the meteor landed. If he didn't have iceblock for that the mark would've killed him before the meteor lands, thus making him unable to soak the meteor and therefore wiping the raid.
Fallen Avatar is IMO much more entertaining encounter than KJ (both on mythic). We spent so many hours on KJ and after luckilly killing him once, we just agreed to not even look at him on mythic difficulty again. Last bosses in Legion in general are pretty shitty - Helya, Gul'Dan, KJ... all the same pattern - lots of time spent in boring phases and then boss wipes u in the beggining of last phase just so U have to get through all again. It makes progression frustrating.
@Preach Gaming how did u track the stacks of previous guy soaking?
i got a notification!!
Does this mean the dark days of demonetization are gone preach?
Travis Rezamand his recent TDP's haven't been, but it's still pretty shit because all his back catalog is just gone completely.
there is also a chance it's the smaller adds that give much much less compared to the big once
at 21:15 when youre showing the bit where it says "XPreach - Can Immune", what is that? Is it just a weakaura?
Changed his name for the bants!
My guild started progressing on mythic Avatar. Did 2 raid nights on him, practising p2 and last time we started with p1. Too bad it is very melee unfriendly (the amount you can bring). Last time we almost cancelled the raid because we 2nd tank couldn't make it, so I said I will tank it. The boss position for 2 rupture was also a problem for us since it was so tight timmed, but me and other tnak quickly dealth with it by having me to taunt from a range right after 2nd desolate and quickly move him to the edge and then wraith walk back. Best part was when people didn't think I can tank it (1st raid night a healer tried to tank it as guardian and had problems) and thought will be squishy, but then didn't say anything when they saw how wrong they were. (not to be dissing anyone btw) :D
For clarification, they didn't thought dk was bad tank or anything, but for both Avatar progress nights, 1 tank couldn't make it and on 1st night, we had 5 healers ready, so once changed from resto druid to guardian and since he isn't used to it, he was taking a lot of damage and sometimes boss reckt him. For 2nd night, we had 4 healers ready, so the druid couldn't tank and they thought I will die a lot if I tank it, but didn't.
thanks to the shity university wifi(legit can get kicked off randomly) I watch ads for this video 3 times. hope that helps Preach!
Do you have a vid on where to gear up for mythic? I try to get into regular +0 mythic at 870 and I can't get in them. Anyhow, love the vids!
make u own groupes
come at me scrublord i'm ripped
Is there a map for the safe spots in phase 2? Or are they recognizable somehow? Do these safe spots also work on heroic?
I'm very surprised by you going fire on a st fight such as FA, can you give us your reasoning behind that? Cheers
how do you set the marks in phase 2?
So many butt clenching moments, wp Preach xD
Which toy transforms you into a troll?
you cant get it anymore, it was from Cata pre-launch event
Sweet thumbnail m8 :)
What in gods name was that mog?
what is that 6 day green buff he has up on his buff bar? I'm so glad you're still making youtube videos. I love them
That's a Vantas Rune
Vantas Rune. It gives additional versatility during a specific boss encounter.
Yep, just what other people have said. Vantus Runes are used for a specific boss and give a decent amount of extra Vers and last until next server reset. You can only have one active at a time though, and they can only be applied to one specific boss.
PEE VEE PEE tho m8! Duel me tho
Fallen One 1V1 me DOUGH M8
How about you make the freekin choice to finish the guides. Still waiting on shaman and warlock
I'm sure you will find guides on the internet if you look and better than what preach does remember his guides are really basic and doesn't go into the class in-depth
class discords are pretty nice for that. Find a highly skilled streamer so u can learn some un-orthodox stuff and run mythic+ dungeons over and over to get everything in muscle memory. When all decisions regarding dps are made automatically, u can think better about ur positioning etc which boosts ur dps even further.
I watched for Drama Time. It was my favorite day of the week, Friday, when it came out. I miss the nostalgia because I don’t like the game as it exists today. I support Preach on Twitch but if drama time is gone, so am I. Nothing personal, I have limited finances and don’t even know what is going on in the game nowadays. I am going to give it awhile but I pray the lore of years past comes back.
drama time isnt gone tho, it's every friday. We didnt do one last week as I was away with my kids
i think it's of value that people voice their opinions, instead of just leaving the creator wondering why people are gone. as seen with this example
Could you argu that you should just follow you assignment and depend on the next person to be there. Like they're responsible for getting there to switch on the stacks.
You shouldn't have to carry these people, they either be there or find someone else who can get it done?
sean hensley That is the exact attitude he counters here. Sometimes things go bad, it is better to adept than let the whole raid wipe.
details out of date tho :0
Well this is annoying, you dont show up in the Subscriptions for me anymore Preach :/
More metal gear
Demonetized!
such an Elitist boring af
Elitist? He explains the thought process to help those who are getting into raiding, so why dont you just continue being useless somewhere else?
I get what he was doing but was a boring video nearly fell asleep and yeah we all know he's an Elitist you really going to say he's not?
Could you go back to class guides? These videos are boring af. It's 25mins talking to dps that tunnel boss.
underwhelming and boring af.
It is a detailed explenation of a fight, what did you expect? This aint LFR