Great video, Costi! In the context of a modern worship service, this idea of "inviting the Holy Spirit" is closely linked to the mysticism that is foundational to contemporary Evangelicalism. This is a totally subjective concept that has to be reinforced with the use of hypnotic music that instills a feeling into the audience, and that feeling is usually interpreted to be "The Holy Spirit." But it's just a feeling, and all sorts of music can instill all sorts of feelings.
Left NAR 4 years ago and going to AOG church. It always bothered me when the pastor would ask the Holy Spirit to come into the service. I told my husband exactly word for word what you said in this video.
One thing Scripture makes very clear is that even though God is omnipresent there are still times when His presence is manifested in a noticeable way, like at the dedication of the Temple in the OT, or on the Day of Pentecost, or when the believers prayed for boldness and the building shook in Acts 4:31.
Exactly. And I've experienced a more (sometimes much more) intense presence of God during things like prayer, worship or some services. Why does the bible say God inhabits the praise of His people if He's just already there and there is no change? I've been in meetings or even praying in a group in a house where the presence of God fell so strong it was undeniable. The bible also speaks of 'times of refreshing' that come from the presence of the Lord. It's always when we are drawing near to God, 'Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you.(James 4:8, KJV) But of course we are dealing with cessationist calvinists here lol.
Thanks for this video, Costi! It always bothers me when a worship leader or pastor says “Come, Holy Spirit” or “Holy Spirit, you’re welcome here”. Your explanation has shown me WHY this is problematic and unnecessary. Thank you!
It is definitely problematic to invite God into a service with good intentions and a heart desiring Him. Imagine not understanding the Bible perfectly and having a part of your doctrine wrong....
If you want yhe Holy Spirit, read, meditate on, memorize, proclaim and be faithful to the Word of God (the Bible, scripture, the Bread of Life) Christ lives in and through us by means of His written and inspired Word.
If we're truly saved the Holy Spirit has taken up permanent residence inside of us for eternity, instant access to our heavenly father and Jesus, the triune Spirit of the living God dwells in us, and he will never leave or forsake us, ever.
Excellent.... praying to The Holy spirit is completely unscriptural... We are to pray to the father in Jesus' name... way to go Brother.... ! violating what Jesus taught has consequences... bad ones!
I've thought about this for many years. Similarly, how we repeatedly say God's names in prayer. Do we talk to a friend this way? Repeating their name(s) after ever 3rd word?
The problem is based on the fact that the concept has been redefined and has lost its meaning. Church has been changed from being people indewlled by the Holy Spirit and being now a place without Holy Spirit where people meet . Since this place has no Holy Spirit in it , there a need to something that render this place compatible to true worship. The church is all people together who are indwell by the Holy Spirit whom was given to them by Father through Jesus-Christ. Whenever they meeting, they come with the Holy Spirit in them , they are the church, they didn't come church but they have come to have a church gathering. Whenever 2 or 3 of these people meet God is among them, he promises that. Then why invite the Holy Spirit? The one thing they can say is to thank God for his presence among them.
Dear Sir, I commend you for your courageous decision to distance yourself from your uncle's ministry. I do have a question stemming from another video you made, where you expressed reservations about listening to Bethel Music due to their interpretation of Christology. Specifically, you questioned the notion that Christ performed miracles as a man rather than as God. Have you considered Philippians 2:6-8, which suggests that Christ, though divine, relinquished His divine attributes to become fully human? I would be interested to hear your thoughts on this verse. Best regards,
You dont need to invite the Holy Spirit. But that statement " I invite You", is letting go and asking Holy Spirit to take the lead and be in control and move among the people. Sorry that you missed it.
I get what you are trying to say, but it's kind of like arguing with a sinners prayer or asking Jesus into your heart or repentance. Sometimes it's important, other times it's semantics.
.a sinner's prayer is in line with the scriptures. For instance Jesus I stand at the door and I knock. Of someone hear my voice and open the door I will in . There many other verses that support it unlike inviting the Holy Spirit.
I love this guy but I feel like he’s completely missed the heart behind when people are saying this. The Bible says to not waste time arguing over the meaning of words. I understand the perspective of us entering in to His presence, however it’s the same Jesus who tells us “Behold, I stand at the door and knock...” He’s saying invite Me in. This is the same heart behind when people invite the Holy Spirit.
As I understand it, all true believers are indwelt by the Holy Spirit. The minute you are regenerated, born again and repent of your sins, the Lord imputes our sin to Jesus, we are new creations and are covered in Jesus’ righteousness. We are forgiven, redeemed, restored and adopted into God’s family. In John 14:16, Jesus promised the Spirit would indwell believers and that the indwelling would be permanent. The permanent indwelling of the Spirit is not for a select few believers, but for all believers. Also, the idea of Jesus standing at a door and knocking is often used as an illustration of Jesus’ offer of salvation to individuals: if you would only “open your heart’s door” and let Jesus into your life, all will be well. But in Revelation 3:20, I don’t think Jesus is pleading with an individual to be saved; He’s seeking admittance to a church! It’s alarming to think of Jesus standing outside the church and knocking, but that’s the position He was in. The Laodicean church had shut the door on the Head of the church; they were smug in their prosperity, but Jesus was left standing in the cold. He was an outsider to the hearts of the entire congregation.
When Bible says, "Behold, I stand at the door and knock...” It has nothing to do with Jesus being invited. It talks about Him returning to His house (picture of His coming--related to Revelation). Jesus is the master of the household.
It's Jesus inviting you to let him in your life . And it's not something you do every day. It's a once of thing , and you have ushered into God's presence from doing so.
@@KSiobhanDeuteronomy 8:10 tells us to pray AFTER we eat. “When you have eaten and are full, then you shall bless the Lord your God for the good land which He has given you.” NKJV
@davidowens445 He's a bit out of his depth, and sadly trying to control God with the bible, rather than allowing the God of the bible to be in control, responding to the hearts of his people
The simplicity of why many churches are powerless is because the Holy Spirit is NOT among them. Even when He comes to do His work, I find the leaders will quench Him. In my area, it's frustrating that I cannot find God's presence in any church. What I see is churches manufacture "the spirit of worship" by secular concert ways. Great lights, big screens, loud music, inciting by repetiton with superficial lyrics. All adrenaline. I will say this - if God's presence was among us at church, why are we so eager to leave after the service? As A.W. Tozer once said: "Christians don't lie, they just sign them in churches."
Please look at calvinism with the same critical lenses you use for those outside your calvinism. You will find that tulip is built on strawmen arguments and not Biblical
A HUGE MISUNDERSTANDING: no third divine person exists! Jesus has the Father who IS HERE and is a spirit "God is a spirit.". That "Father who is A SPIRIT" is called "FATHER" by Jesus. But inversely the "SPIRIT who is the Father" (nothing changes since He is the same God, Jesus just emphasizes He is a spirit) is called "HOLY SPIRIT" by Jesus. Thus, "HOLY SPIRIT" and "FATHER" (who is a spirit) are fully EQUIVALENT NAMES! The two fully EQUIVALENT NAMES are used interchangeably in the various events disclosed by the gospels (Mary's pregnancy, Jesus' baptism (the Father - AKA Holy Spirit - speaks and takes actions in heaven), help given to Jesus in his journey into the wilderness and in speaking, the 2 blasphemies...). The "Spirit of truth" is not the "Holy Spirit", different names. You have proof that the name "Holy Spirit" identifies the Father: the Holy Spirit is with Jesus, but you know that THE FATHER is the ONLY ONE Person with Jesus "I am not ALONE because the Father is with me" (reiterated many times in all different ways). Therefore, the Holy Spirit with Jesus can only be the Father, who is the ONLY PERSON there with Him.
@@david8252 Jesus is NOT TRINITARIAN !!! "On that day you will know that I (A) am in my Father (B), you are in me (A), and I (A) am in you." (just Father and Son) "...who will believe in me through their word so that THEY all may be ONE, as YOU, FATHER, are IN ME, and I IN YOU. THEY also may be ONE IN US" (Father and Son) "I am in the Father and the Father is in me" (Father and Son) " You neither know me nor my Father." (Father and Son) ............................and so on...... Is Jesus heretical too? JESUS IS NOT A TRINITARIAN ! Jesus states that ONLY THE FATHER is with Him, no Comforter is there!
@@claudiozanella256 that is not what Jesus is saying. You’re using one verse to use it to your convenience. We get theological principles from multiple verses.
@@david8252 You can get your theological principle here from multiple verses: "My Father is greater than I", Father and Son "On that day you will know that I am in my Father, you are in me, and I am in you." Father and Son "...the hour, no man knows, no, not the ANGELS in heaven OR THE SON, but the FATHER ONLY knows." Father, Son and angels "ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the RIGHT HAND OF POWER and appearing in the clouds of heaven." only the Son "Hereafter shall the Son of man sit on the RIGHT HAND OF THE POWER of God." only the Son "ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the RIGHT HAND OF POWER, and coming in the clouds of heaven." only the Son "I am in the Father and the Father is in me" Father and Son " You neither know me nor my Father." Father and Son "those who will believe in me through their word so that they all may be one, as you, FATHER, are in ME, and I in YOU. THEY also may be ONE IN US..." Father and Son "against the Son of man, will be forgiven. But whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit..." TWO PERSONS ! You can here see that the Holy Spirit is the Father! "I'm going to my Father" Father and Son "I am not ALONE because the Father is with me" Father and Son "whatever you ask of the Father in my name, He will give it to you." Father and Son "The Father has not left me ALONE... " Father and Son "The WORDS I say to you, I say not on my own but from the FATHER WHO DWELLS IN ME." Father and Son " My Father works now, so I work." Father and Son "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" Father and Son " I and my Father are one." Father and Son "God is a spirit" Father and the Son speaking, totalling TWO "the Father had given all things into His hands " Father and Son "The Father judges no man, but has turned over all judgment to the Son." Father and Son "When the Son of man comes WITH HIS HOLY ANGELS, He shall sit upon the throne of His glory." Just the Son "no one ever saw God" Father, the Son is speaking totalling TWO "Whatever the Father does, the Son does the same." Father and Son "The word you hear is not mine, but is from the Father who sent me." Father and Son "He gave me a commandment of what I should say" Father and Son. Please get theological principles too from verses where Jesus states to be together with TWO PERSONS: (I don't find any, please make a better search...)
Why don't you just do His will and you won't have to worry to define God; you are wasting your time here buddy. If you have issues understanding this go to God Himself. All that trinity stuff I don't care much but to talk and act about what God has revealed to me.
Great video, Costi! In the context of a modern worship service, this idea of "inviting the Holy Spirit" is closely linked to the mysticism that is foundational to contemporary Evangelicalism. This is a totally subjective concept that has to be reinforced with the use of hypnotic music that instills a feeling into the audience, and that feeling is usually interpreted to be "The Holy Spirit." But it's just a feeling, and all sorts of music can instill all sorts of feelings.
One of the few true pastors in the USA who understands the gospel, the Bible, our Trine God and is faithful and strong in sharing the TRUTH!
Left NAR 4 years ago and going to AOG church. It always bothered me when the pastor would ask the Holy Spirit to come into the service. I told my husband exactly word for word what you said in this video.
One thing Scripture makes very clear is that even though God is omnipresent there are still times when His presence is manifested in a noticeable way, like at the dedication of the Temple in the OT, or on the Day of Pentecost, or when the believers prayed for boldness and the building shook in Acts 4:31.
I AGREE WITH YOU.
In both instances He wasn't invited. He manifested His presence
Exactly. And I've experienced a more (sometimes much more) intense presence of God during things like prayer, worship or some services. Why does the bible say God inhabits the praise of His people if He's just already there and there is no change? I've been in meetings or even praying in a group in a house where the presence of God fell so strong it was undeniable. The bible also speaks of 'times of refreshing' that come from the presence of the Lord. It's always when we are drawing near to God, 'Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you.(James 4:8, KJV) But of course we are dealing with cessationist calvinists here lol.
James 4:8 is about submission to God and Holiness in context.
Great video. God bless you brother.
Thanks for this video, Costi! It always bothers me when a worship leader or pastor says “Come, Holy Spirit” or “Holy Spirit, you’re welcome here”. Your explanation has shown me WHY this is problematic and unnecessary. Thank you!
It is definitely problematic to invite God into a service with good intentions and a heart desiring Him. Imagine not understanding the Bible perfectly and having a part of your doctrine wrong....
@@rocketsurgeon1746I guess that's sarcasm? I see your point though.
@@cdfistaken5437 definitely :)
Right on brother!!!!
Beautiful amen! PRAISE JESUS!
If you want yhe Holy Spirit, read, meditate on, memorize, proclaim and be faithful to the Word of God (the Bible, scripture, the Bread of Life)
Christ lives in and through us by means of His written and inspired Word.
Yes, much needed teaching.
Please keep building the Kingdom through this content brother Costi.
Building? Maybe look at tulip with the same critical lens?
I LOVE me some TRUTH..that was a Great way to say it..Thanks so much Costi..You are a wonderful Teacher
very good brother Costi.
If we're truly saved the Holy Spirit has taken up permanent residence inside of us for eternity, instant access to our heavenly father and Jesus, the triune Spirit of the living God dwells in us, and he will never leave or forsake us, ever.
This is priceless! ❤
Thank you! This is excellent. Shared!
Well explained, thank you!
Amén 🙌
Amen and Amen!
Amen. Great teaching.
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
thank you Costi, amen
Exactly! 100% on point sir. God bless you
Thank You for making this video
Amen and amen!👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
Excellent.... praying to The Holy spirit is completely unscriptural... We are to pray to the father in Jesus' name... way to go Brother.... ! violating what Jesus taught has consequences... bad ones!
I've thought about this for many years.
Similarly, how we repeatedly say God's names in prayer. Do we talk to a friend this way? Repeating their name(s) after ever 3rd word?
I believe, whoever needs to invite the Spirit, hasn't it yet.
Spot on there are far too many so called Christians who want to play god.
Makes Sense
The problem is based on the fact that the concept has been redefined and has lost its meaning.
Church has been changed from being people indewlled by the Holy Spirit and being now a place without Holy Spirit where people meet .
Since this place has no Holy Spirit in it , there a need to something that render this place compatible to true worship.
The church is all people together who are indwell by the Holy Spirit whom was given to them by Father through Jesus-Christ.
Whenever they meeting, they come with the Holy Spirit in them , they are the church, they didn't come church but they have come to have a church gathering. Whenever 2 or 3 of these people meet God is among them, he promises that. Then why invite the Holy Spirit?
The one thing they can say is to thank God for his presence among them.
Dear Sir,
I commend you for your courageous decision to distance yourself from your uncle's ministry. I do have a question stemming from another video you made, where you expressed reservations about listening to Bethel Music due to their interpretation of Christology. Specifically, you questioned the notion that Christ performed miracles as a man rather than as God. Have you considered Philippians 2:6-8, which suggests that Christ, though divine, relinquished His divine attributes to become fully human? I would be interested to hear your thoughts on this verse.
Best regards,
Amen
Love this!❤
Awesome !
Call em outttt
You dont need to invite the Holy Spirit. But that statement " I invite You", is letting go and asking Holy Spirit to take the lead and be in control and move among the people. Sorry that you missed it.
I get what you are trying to say, but it's kind of like arguing with a sinners prayer or asking Jesus into your heart or repentance. Sometimes it's important, other times it's semantics.
.a sinner's prayer is in line with the scriptures. For instance Jesus I stand at the door and I knock. Of someone hear my voice and open the door I will in . There many other verses that support it unlike inviting the Holy Spirit.
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I love this guy but I feel like he’s completely missed the heart behind when people are saying this. The Bible says to not waste time arguing over the meaning of words. I understand the perspective of us entering in to His presence, however it’s the same Jesus who tells us “Behold, I stand at the door and knock...” He’s saying invite Me in. This is the same heart behind when people invite the Holy Spirit.
As I understand it, all true believers are indwelt by the Holy Spirit. The minute you are regenerated, born again and repent of your sins, the Lord
imputes our sin to Jesus, we are new creations and are covered in Jesus’ righteousness. We are forgiven, redeemed, restored and adopted into God’s family.
In John 14:16, Jesus promised the Spirit would indwell believers and that the indwelling would be permanent. The permanent indwelling of the Spirit is not for a select few believers, but for all believers.
Also, the idea of Jesus standing at a door and knocking is often used as an illustration of Jesus’ offer of salvation to individuals: if you would only “open your heart’s door” and let Jesus into your life, all will be well. But in Revelation 3:20, I don’t think Jesus is pleading with an individual to be saved; He’s seeking admittance to a church! It’s alarming to think of Jesus standing outside the church and knocking, but that’s the position He was in. The Laodicean church had shut the door on the Head of the church; they were smug in their prosperity, but Jesus was left standing in the cold. He was an outsider to the hearts of the entire congregation.
When Bible says, "Behold, I stand at the door and knock...” It has nothing to do with Jesus being invited. It talks about Him returning to His house (picture of His coming--related to Revelation). Jesus is the master of the household.
It's Jesus inviting you to let him in your life . And it's not something you do every day. It's a once of thing , and you have ushered into God's presence from doing so.
@@KSiobhanDeuteronomy 8:10 tells us to pray AFTER we eat.
“When you have eaten and are full, then you shall bless the Lord your God for the good land which He has given you.” NKJV
@davidowens445 He's a bit out of his depth, and sadly trying to control God with the bible, rather than allowing the God of the bible to be in control, responding to the hearts of his people
The simplicity of why many churches are powerless is because the Holy Spirit is NOT among them. Even when He comes to do His work, I find the leaders will quench Him.
In my area, it's frustrating that I cannot find God's presence in any church. What I see is churches manufacture "the spirit of worship" by secular concert ways. Great lights, big screens, loud music, inciting by repetiton with superficial lyrics. All adrenaline.
I will say this - if God's presence was among us at church, why are we so eager to leave after the service?
As A.W. Tozer once said:
"Christians don't lie, they just sign them in churches."
These people are looking for an experience not to worship God in truth. Simple
This is false, if you want the truth, come to me.
I am The Messiah
Please look at calvinism with the same critical lenses you use for those outside your calvinism. You will find that tulip is built on strawmen arguments and not Biblical
A HUGE MISUNDERSTANDING: no third divine person exists!
Jesus has the Father who IS HERE and is a spirit "God is a spirit.". That "Father who is A SPIRIT" is called "FATHER" by Jesus. But inversely the "SPIRIT who is the Father" (nothing changes since He is the same God, Jesus just emphasizes He is a spirit) is called "HOLY SPIRIT" by Jesus. Thus, "HOLY SPIRIT" and "FATHER" (who is a spirit) are fully EQUIVALENT NAMES! The two fully EQUIVALENT NAMES are used interchangeably in the various events disclosed by the gospels (Mary's pregnancy, Jesus' baptism (the Father - AKA Holy Spirit - speaks and takes actions in heaven), help given to Jesus in his journey into the wilderness and in speaking, the 2 blasphemies...). The "Spirit of truth" is not the "Holy Spirit", different names.
You have proof that the name "Holy Spirit" identifies the Father: the Holy Spirit is with Jesus, but you know that THE FATHER is the ONLY ONE Person with Jesus "I am not ALONE because the Father is with me" (reiterated many times in all different ways). Therefore, the Holy Spirit with Jesus can only be the Father, who is the ONLY PERSON there with Him.
that's a heresy buddy
@@david8252
Jesus is NOT TRINITARIAN !!!
"On that day you will know that I (A) am in my Father (B), you are in me (A), and I (A) am in you." (just Father and Son)
"...who will believe in me through their word so that THEY all may be ONE, as YOU, FATHER, are IN ME, and I IN YOU. THEY also may be ONE IN US" (Father and Son)
"I am in the Father and the Father is in me" (Father and Son)
" You neither know me nor my Father." (Father and Son)
............................and so on......
Is Jesus heretical too? JESUS IS NOT A TRINITARIAN ! Jesus states that ONLY THE FATHER is with Him, no Comforter is there!
@@claudiozanella256 that is not what Jesus is saying. You’re using one verse to use it to your convenience. We get theological principles from multiple verses.
@@david8252
You can get your theological principle here from multiple verses:
"My Father is greater than I", Father and Son
"On that day you will know that I am in my Father, you are in me, and I am in you." Father and Son
"...the hour, no man knows, no, not the ANGELS in heaven OR THE SON, but the FATHER ONLY knows." Father, Son and angels
"ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the RIGHT HAND OF POWER and appearing in the clouds of heaven." only the Son
"Hereafter shall the Son of man sit on the RIGHT HAND OF THE POWER of God." only the Son
"ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the RIGHT HAND OF POWER, and coming in the clouds of heaven." only the Son
"I am in the Father and the Father is in me" Father and Son
" You neither know me nor my Father." Father and Son
"those who will believe in me through their word so that they all may be one, as you, FATHER, are in ME, and I in YOU. THEY also may be ONE IN US..." Father and Son
"against the Son of man, will be forgiven. But whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit..." TWO PERSONS ! You can here see that the Holy Spirit is the Father!
"I'm going to my Father" Father and Son
"I am not ALONE because the Father is with me" Father and Son
"whatever you ask of the Father in my name, He will give it to you." Father and Son
"The Father has not left me ALONE... " Father and Son
"The WORDS I say to you, I say not on my own but from the FATHER WHO DWELLS IN ME." Father and Son
" My Father works now, so I work." Father and Son
"My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" Father and Son
" I and my Father are one." Father and Son
"God is a spirit" Father and the Son speaking, totalling TWO
"the Father had given all things into His hands " Father and Son
"The Father judges no man, but has turned over all judgment to the Son." Father and Son
"When the Son of man comes WITH HIS HOLY ANGELS, He shall sit upon the throne of His glory." Just the Son
"no one ever saw God" Father, the Son is speaking totalling TWO
"Whatever the Father does, the Son does the same." Father and Son
"The word you hear is not mine, but is from the Father who sent me." Father and Son
"He gave me a commandment of what I should say" Father and Son.
Please get theological principles too from verses where Jesus states to be together with TWO PERSONS:
(I don't find any, please make a better search...)
Why don't you just do His will and you won't have to worry to define God; you are wasting your time here buddy. If you have issues understanding this go to God Himself. All that trinity stuff I don't care much but to talk and act about what God has revealed to me.