Supposdly this engine is real and used by Keiichi Tsuchiya in his racing days. The closest you can get in real to this motor is Formula Atlantic series 4A-GE which revs all the way to 10,000rpm in open cockpit racing cars.
There was an image of the engine during the anime. It’s not a true formula Atlantic motor. It’s more like an extremely overbuilt 7age that somehow has Atlantic internals. you can automatically tell by the sound of the engine.
this is not a formula atlantic and also not a 7age, formula atlantic 4age engines are 4 valve, not 5 valve as shown the "irl counterpart" to a 5 valve 4age that revs high and have VVT removed would be the race car 4ag engines found on the AE101s driven during JTCC in the 90s, actually it matches the specs exactly: 10k - 12k redline 5 valves per cyl silvertop no VVT famously, it is also put in Akira Lida's AE86
I feel like takumi went through this phase too easy (wataru basically giving him the answer). I think bunta was waiting for takumi to ask him about why peak power came so close to the upshift point and why it lost a lot of power on the downshifts.
Nah, but it still led him to the same conclusion. After defeating waturu. He still asked his dad to teach him about cars. He wanted takumi to grow on his own. Which he did and still reached out for things beyond him. Great parenting.
Bunta restricted the engine's power to teach Takumi not to rev it too high. Over time, Takumi realized the engine wasn't performing at its best, which meant he was ready to unleash its full potential. But instead of waiting for that moment, Takumi stumbled upon the answer through some inquiries. At that point, Bunta simply shared with Takumi how to make the new engine run at its maximum capacity. This clearly proves that Bunta is the fastest driver on Akina and perhaps one of the best in the world.
No, he wanted Takumi to just realize that it can rev higher; he wanted Takumi to realize that the engine can rev higher just by feeling the car. Ridiculous of him to think this though. Takumi was already traumatized by blowing up his first engine; even if he thought he could rev higher, he probably wouldn't out of fear of damaging the engine
You are way off the mark, Bunta restricted it's power to teach Takumi that he can't only be an intuitive driver and rely solely on his instincts to be the fastest, rather, he needs to understand how a car works mechanically, how the engine works, the "basics" of any street racer, which Wataru told takumi he's missing, he said no racer worth his salt doesn't know how engines work or what engine their car has, this is what Takumi misses to be "complete" and Bunta wanted him to figure it out on his own.
"You'll never be able to brag about being undefeated again!" But he's not, he lost to the Evo 3 Technically he should have lost to Nakazoto too, Nakazato could have widened the gap from the beginning but intentionally held back to prove a point but if he had gone all out from the start then Tak wouldn't have been close enough to pressure him and cause him to spin out.
@@1mawesomel1kethat While that is true, if Nakazato had not held back at the start, i wonder if he would have felt less pressure from Takumi, thereby not over-driving as early.
I think for Wataru it's not just a personal pride thing. It's the lack of wisdom and fundamental understanding on display that's probably getting to Wataru, and it gets to me too. It didn't way back when, but as I get older, I understand Wataru's point of view more and more. As the audience, we get the benefit of omnipotence, and with that, inherent bias. So of course we see Wataru's actions as over-the-top and unnecessarily antagonistic. Now; take out all our foreknowledge from the previous seasons about Takumi and his rise as a driver, and start from a blank slate; no preconceived notions. What you get on first impression when meeting Takumi is that he's an obviously gifted and talented young kid who knows how to drive and operate a car at its peak. He has all the instinctual nuance that it takes to be high level, but somehow he has less than significant foundational working knowledge of car mechanics and (apparently) Newtonian macrophysics. His expertise lies in the 'what', less so in the 'how', and nowhere in the realm of 'why' when it comes to certain aspects, and it becomes readily apparent when asking Takumi about any specifics about his car. I get where Wataru's coming from. How in the hell did you get this good without any basic understanding of chassis setup or engine power delivery characteristics? Those are two separate facets of performance but they're heavily interwoven/integrated when it comes to an overall well-balanced car setup. One directly affects the other, and having a well-rounded foundational level of knowledge in that regard can allow you to adjust your inputs on the fly, because you understand exactly what's happening. If you understand what's happening, you can take preventative measures and adjust your strategy to keep yourself either a) at a consistent advantage, or b) take action to minimize whatever disadvantage you might be at due to conditions outside your immediate control. Take AMA superbike racing for example: There's more than one way to set up a bike to win a race, and more than one strategy within that setup to use to win. For instance, you can set up a bike to be as quick as possible while the tires are at their most fresh, in the hopes that as the rider you'll be able to get to the lead and build up a large enough gap that can't be overcome throughout the length of the race. Conversely, you can set up the bike to be good enough to not egregiously fall behind at the beginning, but perform far better and arguably be more stable once the tires start to wear off and the fuel load starts to dwindle; causing the bike's center of gravity to lower. Both strategies have their merit, and both strategies are proven to work. The main differentiators between such strategies is luck, chance, and the quality of rider aboard each machine. TBH, if I met a racer that was flat out just better than me yet also had no clue about any of what I just stated, I'd be a bit miffed too. Like, why even bother understanding any of what I just discussed if it nets you nothing in the end? Interestingly enough, out in the wide world of racing, examples like this are relatively rare occurrences, and as the racing system continues to get more corporatized, these examples continue to diminish.
Basically if I recall, the VVTi engines lack a lot in tunablity which is why it's not as effective as getting no vvti and aftermarket cams. It's basically full time VVTi if u don't get the VVTi model (u gotta get aftermarket cams ofc).
I have an RSX Type-S with a tuned ECU so I'm able to decrease the i-VTEC engagement to possibly 2000rpm and redline at 9000rpm if not more if I swap the block from k20 to k24. It's similar in a way to honda, but i-VTEC definitely has more options since u can control when engagement happens.
From what I heard, the dub doesn't have the eurobeat ost of the original, which is just sinful. I honestly couldn't care less about sub vs dub, but I can't recommend this dub, because Initial D isn't complete without eurobeat.
actually i would think wataru is just jealous like takumi don't know about car basics... but hes this good. like shoot if i can get so good at something without even needing fundamentals sign me up
Such awesome twists in Stage 2, then the stage 3 movie capitalizes on them perfectly. Feel like the show lost a lot of direction in Stage 4 and just became “this weeks race” over and over again; then stage 5 is just a total jumping of the shark and forcing a lot of new plots.
The dub of Initial D isn't perfect, but at least it's dubbing close to the original. If this company dubbed it in the 90s, not sure if it would be approved at all.
@@reynaldiwidjaja277 yeah, I do understand why Takumi seeks a friendship with him considering his racing knowledge as well as 86 knowledge HOWEVER, after what he did to Itsuki (who actually is Takumi's best friend) I personally would tell wataru to fuck off
I will always love how blunt Takumi replies to Wataru "No he owns a Tofu shop."
You would think people would notice with the branding on the side lol
@@callsignvalkyrie”fujiwara tofu shop” lmao
Well, Takumi is a boring person.
Supposdly this engine is real and used by Keiichi Tsuchiya in his racing days. The closest you can get in real to this motor is Formula Atlantic series 4A-GE which revs all the way to 10,000rpm in open cockpit racing cars.
There was an image of the engine during the anime. It’s not a true formula Atlantic motor. It’s more like an extremely overbuilt 7age that somehow has Atlantic internals. you can automatically tell by the sound of the engine.
Nope, the engine is based on Akira Iida's AE86
JDM, old reliable
this is not a formula atlantic and also not a 7age,
formula atlantic 4age engines are 4 valve, not 5 valve as shown
the "irl counterpart" to a 5 valve 4age that revs high and have VVT removed would be the race car 4ag engines found on the AE101s driven during JTCC in the 90s, actually it matches the specs exactly:
10k - 12k redline
5 valves per cyl silvertop
no VVT
famously, it is also put in Akira Lida's AE86
@@FalbereChan The truth has been spoken. Middo Natto for life.
this scene is damn cool when it comes to the part 'tachometer'
The taco meter
@@1mawesomel1kethat takumieter
0:29 yeah that question still bugs me to this day its like the tofu is very special
Its literally shown that buntas friend that works in the industry gave him a deal on a professional engine
On top of that, the momey saved from 5 years of work plus Bunta's own money would cover a used built block, parts and installation easily at the time.
It’s never canonically shown what Bunta done before Initial D. I like what the authors of “Dreamin of Akina” did in their fanfic prequal.
The tofu is cocaine! Takumi delivered to Yakuza hotels. Simple...
@@mr.noprobz3412its a speculation but i guess we'll never know for sure...
Wataru realizing takumi has been shifting at 8k rpm like he’s used to it rather than the group A silver top 4age going 11k rpm
I like how Wataru isnt screaming from takumi's drift
Because he wasn't even drifting anymore. If you look closely, you realize Takumi was losing the car because of having no enough power.
4:49 foreshadowing?
Tachometer go brrrttt
Bunta friend had it but he was like nahh
“No, my dad owns a tofu shop” 🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿💀💀💀💀
I say "nani? Jansen dorifuto! As my 78 year old grandpa Named jansen "drifts" the family Nissan leaf nismo into a Crowd of 5th graders
ehat
Honest takumi is cool and all but we need a wataru arc
That's sounds epic.
i mean, he gets some in stage 4. but not much
I feel like takumi went through this phase too easy (wataru basically giving him the answer). I think bunta was waiting for takumi to ask him about why peak power came so close to the upshift point and why it lost a lot of power on the downshifts.
Nah, but it still led him to the same conclusion. After defeating waturu. He still asked his dad to teach him about cars. He wanted takumi to grow on his own. Which he did and still reached out for things beyond him. Great parenting.
Takumi is secretly sponsored by Tsuchiya. The engine had to be from the DK himself.
Bunta restricted the engine's power to teach Takumi not to rev it too high. Over time, Takumi realized the engine wasn't performing at its best, which meant he was ready to unleash its full potential. But instead of waiting for that moment, Takumi stumbled upon the answer through some inquiries. At that point, Bunta simply shared with Takumi how to make the new engine run at its maximum capacity. This clearly proves that Bunta is the fastest driver on Akina and perhaps one of the best in the world.
That and Bunta purposely restrict its due to the fact that he needs Takumi to appreciates the additional power.
No, he wanted Takumi to just realize that it can rev higher; he wanted Takumi to realize that the engine can rev higher just by feeling the car. Ridiculous of him to think this though. Takumi was already traumatized by blowing up his first engine; even if he thought he could rev higher, he probably wouldn't out of fear of damaging the engine
@@youraveragegamer8832 this is the answer. don't know where OP got bunta's "don't rev it too high" comment.
You are way off the mark, Bunta restricted it's power to teach Takumi that he can't only be an intuitive driver and rely solely on his instincts to be the fastest, rather, he needs to understand how a car works mechanically, how the engine works, the "basics" of any street racer, which Wataru told takumi he's missing, he said no racer worth his salt doesn't know how engines work or what engine their car has, this is what Takumi misses to be "complete" and Bunta wanted him to figure it out on his own.
"You'll never be able to brag about being undefeated again!"
But he's not, he lost to the Evo 3
Technically he should have lost to Nakazoto too, Nakazato could have widened the gap from the beginning but intentionally held back to prove a point but if he had gone all out from the start then Tak wouldn't have been close enough to pressure him and cause him to spin out.
I think you missed why nakazato lost, main reason, understeer. Takumi would have caught up quickly because he was way faster in the corners
@@1mawesomel1kethat While that is true, if Nakazato had not held back at the start, i wonder if he would have felt less pressure from Takumi, thereby not over-driving as early.
and there was the part where Ryosuke down tuned his car for their battle
@@genericexcuse4737 Keisuke pulled away at the start and it still didn't matter and Nakazato is a worse driver
Nakazato got excited during the race and forgot about his tires also could be a reason. Its what he said in Blacklighting stage
I think for Wataru it's not just a personal pride thing. It's the lack of wisdom and fundamental understanding on display that's probably getting to Wataru, and it gets to me too. It didn't way back when, but as I get older, I understand Wataru's point of view more and more.
As the audience, we get the benefit of omnipotence, and with that, inherent bias. So of course we see Wataru's actions as over-the-top and unnecessarily antagonistic. Now; take out all our foreknowledge from the previous seasons about Takumi and his rise as a driver, and start from a blank slate; no preconceived notions.
What you get on first impression when meeting Takumi is that he's an obviously gifted and talented young kid who knows how to drive and operate a car at its peak. He has all the instinctual nuance that it takes to be high level, but somehow he has less than significant foundational working knowledge of car mechanics and (apparently) Newtonian macrophysics. His expertise lies in the 'what', less so in the 'how', and nowhere in the realm of 'why' when it comes to certain aspects, and it becomes readily apparent when asking Takumi about any specifics about his car.
I get where Wataru's coming from. How in the hell did you get this good without any basic understanding of chassis setup or engine power delivery characteristics? Those are two separate facets of performance but they're heavily interwoven/integrated when it comes to an overall well-balanced car setup. One directly affects the other, and having a well-rounded foundational level of knowledge in that regard can allow you to adjust your inputs on the fly, because you understand exactly what's happening. If you understand what's happening, you can take preventative measures and adjust your strategy to keep yourself either a) at a consistent advantage, or b) take action to minimize whatever disadvantage you might be at due to conditions outside your immediate control.
Take AMA superbike racing for example:
There's more than one way to set up a bike to win a race, and more than one strategy within that setup to use to win. For instance, you can set up a bike to be as quick as possible while the tires are at their most fresh, in the hopes that as the rider you'll be able to get to the lead and build up a large enough gap that can't be overcome throughout the length of the race. Conversely, you can set up the bike to be good enough to not egregiously fall behind at the beginning, but perform far better and arguably be more stable once the tires start to wear off and the fuel load starts to dwindle; causing the bike's center of gravity to lower. Both strategies have their merit, and both strategies are proven to work. The main differentiators between such strategies is luck, chance, and the quality of rider aboard each machine.
TBH, if I met a racer that was flat out just better than me yet also had no clue about any of what I just stated, I'd be a bit miffed too. Like, why even bother understanding any of what I just discussed if it nets you nothing in the end? Interestingly enough, out in the wide world of racing, examples like this are relatively rare occurrences, and as the racing system continues to get more corporatized, these examples continue to diminish.
"Like" if you got the reference about VVTi engines being less favourable than non-VVTi variants for this scenario
Basically if I recall, the VVTi engines lack a lot in tunablity which is why it's not as effective as getting no vvti and aftermarket cams. It's basically full time VVTi if u don't get the VVTi model (u gotta get aftermarket cams ofc).
I have an RSX Type-S with a tuned ECU so I'm able to decrease the i-VTEC engagement to possibly 2000rpm and redline at 9000rpm if not more if I swap the block from k20 to k24. It's similar in a way to honda, but i-VTEC definitely has more options since u can control when engagement happens.
0:27
drugs
The only thing slow about Takumi is his brain.
This one of the dubs id prefer over sub, so iconic
From what I heard, the dub doesn't have the eurobeat ost of the original, which is just sinful.
I honestly couldn't care less about sub vs dub, but I can't recommend this dub, because Initial D isn't complete without eurobeat.
@@MFAN1100that’s the tokyo pop dub, the one you want is the funimation dub. It has eurobeat.
@@toead4186 If that's the case then I'll keep that in mind, thank you for the info
Rip funimation
What’s the song in the background
Which ep is that..i want to rewatch it
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@@evolad2463 thanks
@@evolad2463 Second stage act 10
Bro, there are people who are good drivers but know nothing about tuning and engines lol the Levin guy was getting pretty annoying
What is the music at 1:36
if wataru never told him about the rev limiter than he would have wont
I like the rims on the other guys Levin more 😂 but I guess that only helps Takumi with the covert aspect of his racing.
Yeah I agree
actually i would think wataru is just jealous like takumi don't know about car basics... but hes this good. like shoot if i can get so good at something without even needing fundamentals sign me up
Such awesome twists in Stage 2, then the stage 3 movie capitalizes on them perfectly. Feel like the show lost a lot of direction in Stage 4 and just became “this weeks race” over and over again; then stage 5 is just a total jumping of the shark and forcing a lot of new plots.
The dub of Initial D isn't perfect, but at least it's dubbing close to the original. If this company dubbed it in the 90s, not sure if it would be approved at all.
Did Bunta and Masashi wants to change tachometer and gauges??
Yep but bunta wanted to teach takumi about the new engine thats why sealed it for a while, also the gauges for it seems to be hard to find
He can floor it up to 8k or takumi was just naive he thought it's same rpm limiter? Idk
Tak having problem with Tach
First
Stage
I hate Wataru
He befriends Takumi in stage 5
He has his pride but after being outclassed by Takumi he soften to takumi even takumi can call wataru his best friend when it comes to 86.
@@reynaldiwidjaja277 yeah, I do understand why Takumi seeks a friendship with him considering his racing knowledge as well as 86 knowledge HOWEVER, after what he did to Itsuki (who actually is Takumi's best friend) I personally would tell wataru to fuck off
@@arifhilmi6337 starting in stage 4*
Wataru in a way treats him as his younger brother in terms of the mechanic sides but in racing they can be somewhat equal.