Michael Page: Ian Machado Garry Gets Killed By Leon Edwards, Shavkat Rakhmonov | The MMA Hour
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- Опубликовано: 9 июл 2024
- Michael Page discusses his UFC 303 performance against Ian Machado Garry, England’s performance at Euro 2004, how close he was to being submitted in the first round, what he could have done differently, Garry’s accusations, his walkout song, what’s next, and more.
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Somehow between mvp and Machado I'm looking forward to an mvp fight more. But he needs to step up his grappling
He hasn’t done it in over a decade he won’t start now.. he’s old as hell
@@unclejunior266837 is old now huh to small minded people
@@Funko_Advocate9for that weight class, yes it’s old
this should be MVP fight plan
- buckley, neal, wonderboy, jdm
@KG-ii2yx dawg why do people always bring up Geoff neal.. dudes last win was against luque in 2022.. he's on a 2 fight skid and the wins he has under his belt are not very impressive. It's crazy how this guy is constantly brought up.
Such an underwhelming fight and result. The fact that MVP anticipated Garry would grapple and not stand up makes it even worse
Sucks he can't wrestle. UK lacks grapplers.
It doesn't make is any worse, most people anticipated that. Knowing that your opponent is going to wrestle doesn't make your wrestling any better.
@@JoePesos you can set up uppercuts and knees tho, if you can get a better timing of their wrestling game
Just worry about uploading more pics of cake mate
@@JoePesosof corse knowing someone is going to wrestle helps you sausage
Good football assessment. And good bloke. I hope he gets more ufc opportunities. He has some highlight reel wins in him.
MVP comes from the Darren Till school of grappling. Till was crying tears of joy watching that and whispering "that's my boy"
Black belt in getting taken down
@@jp29427hate-jitsu
MVP lives in london and Darren till lives in Liverpool
I love when fighters say "i don't want to make any excuses" and then proceeds to list off multiple excuses 😂
😂😭
Every single time Bruhh like it’s a script 😂
I love when non fighters complain about what fighters saym
Difference between 'excuses' and reasons.
Yeah so? MVP is aware of the mistakes he made in the fight
Leon is more boring than Garry, let Shavkat demolish everybody
mvp only wants to win in a knockout or tko willing to throw the fight away just to get the knockout is crazy...but thats just his style, I lost a lot of money on that fight unfortunately. Im still riding with MVP no matter what I'm a life long fan. At the same time you need to protect your mma record so if you must "steal that win".
That’s ur fault for betting on a dude who only had one fight in the ufc and he couldn’t even finish him.
Easy money w Garry and over and rounds HAHAHHA
That's just an excuse for not having a gameplan on the groud. He's my fav in that division but he hasn't grown there. He started mma earlier than Wonderboy.
I can’t stand Ian but I hope you lost enough $ it’ll take years to recover. Are you 16?
@MVPMMA it equals out i won a lot on mvp against kevin holland, who everyone said he wouldnt beat, its not my fault. Garry"s entire promotion was i dont plan on taking him down im going to knock him out......then he got in there desperately shooting takedowns 🤣
At least in bellator opponents would stand with mvp, come to the ufc and his last 2 opponents turned into wrestlers. 🤣
Still disappointed
You thought MVP was beating Garry😁?
U thought garrys wife isn't cheating on him ?
@@josephbickerton1506 😂😭
To me the fight was a Draw and yes, Ian didn’t want to strike with MVP. Plot twist: MVP is faster than Ian.
You don’t need a plot twist..MVP is faster then Garry
garry outsmarted MVP?
@@dominiceliakim4617 To be honest Garry and MVP both seemed puzzled on the ground. Garry didn't know what to do at all and just clung on to MVP, or acted like a koala on his back with no advancement. MVP didn't know what to do... I figured Garry had lived in Brazil, trained BJJ with all the top guys, had Maia in his corner and behaved like a white belt.
mvp faught like the lvp and lost. keep hating gary. no one really cares mvp lost and is not top 10
@@joeskill4663 Yes, he is. But I’d be lying if I say that I wasn’t concerned about that. I mean, Garry is 11 years younger and don’t know how old you are but I lost speed from when I was 30 to 40 😭 That’s just nature. Anyway, Garry kept saying in the press conference and in interviews that he was faster than MVP and nope. Or at least, that wasn’t seen in their fight.
MVP grappling is a complete joke he looked so lost against Ian on the ground.
Except he survived every submission attempt?
@@spongebobsquarepants7788 by someone who’s ground game is also trash 😂😂 Ian’s not a threat on the ground he just held him in place basically. Anyone with a decent ground game will submit both these fools 😂 but MVPs grappling was much worse than Ian’s.
MVP Michael venom page is the greatest acquisition ever to the UFC roster
Waited too long. Spent his prime in Bellator and still never touched a belt. Shame, honestly. The hype behind this guy was insane like ten years ago.
The hype was definitely more years ago, but his standup hype has been living up to expectations in the UFC so far, so that is pretty cool
Dawg u don’t need a belt to be a Goat.
was a boring fight. Garry took the easy way out MVP looked old one dimensional
That's on MVP though. Over 10 years in mma and he can't defend vs a striker who turned into a wrestler. Just like the Paul Daley fight.
Isn’t garry has better ground game than a lot of people that have been in the game for over 10 years
Ian looked one dimensional
He had to mvp infiltrated his camp smh
Mvp broke down how england was playing and how they played today, perfectly
Dude has gone out of his way to say to the UFC I don’t want the England flag next to his name 💀 rooted for MVP as a fellow Englishman but if he ashamed of our flag f him glad Ian Garry won.
@@ShhensjjaI don’t blame him. Look at what you people let happen to your country.
@@jmill5995 you mind telling me what we have let happen to our country?
MVP vs Wonderboy should most definitely be next! 🔥
They have both said some version of the styles wouldn’t mesh. It will take them back to pure points karate, not great to watch. And I loved that self awareness from both because it is very true. That is liable to be a stinker.
@@MuhammadImardBruceLeeyea we’ve seen it before when two karate style kickboxers go at it and it just evens out and turns into a point war. But I don’t think that will always be the case. You make it seem like a guarantee. All it takes is for them to bring that dog out in them to make it a bloody war. They match tempos. Considering they are both old they might bring that dog out, as MVP is almost 40 and is ranked like 15th, he needs to go hard, and Wonderboy is already over 40 and needs to solidify himself as an all time great, and wants to show people he’s still dangerous in an old age.
And I’ll be rooting for the American as an Englishman at least wonderboy ain’t ashamed to have the American flag next to his name 💀
All this mf had to do was slam Ian on his head
You sound like you're 9 years old.
He will still be up there, he needs a 2-3 fight run to get a title shot
As if Page doesn't know anything about the spying accusation
how you been doing mma for so long mvp but have zero grappling its kinda pathetic
MVP sounded guilty by that reaction 😂
The touching of the nose and face twitches gave him away.
He definitely did...brits they can do James Bond job all over
I'm a fan, and I agree he didn't need that to happen, but totally sus
To be honest Garry and MVP both seemed puzzled on the ground. Garry didn't know what to do at all and just clung on to MVP, or acted like a koala on his back with no advancement. MVP didn't know what to do... I figured Garry had lived in Brazil, trained BJJ with all the top guys, had Maia in his corner... so it was surprising he behaved like a white belt.
If garry keeps training with demands maia he will progress fast.
When MVP was asked about the accusations of trying to pay people for sparring footage his whole demeanour changed, seems like a guilty reaction to me
seemed the opposite to me
bro what💀 you’re ability to read someone’s emotions is non existent
MVP vs Wonderboy would be 🔥
Nah. Fifteen to twenty five minute staring match between two karatekas with a combined age of nearly eighty.
@@donovanchilton5817 yeah its two counter strikers who are good friends, probably wouldnt be super entertaining
Trash 2 strikes a minute
@@donovanchilton5817 You are mad Wena
He can't be talking about Ian Garry after Ian beat him, horrible fight tho
I think MVP won that fight
@@jaredschmidt8013 who cares who won, MVP always fights like a 🤡throwing one strike per minute. Go watch Wonderboy vs Holland, now go watch MVP vs Holland, big difference. MVP needs to go back to fighting cans
@@lucatoni98 I care because Ian Machado sucks and married an elderly patient
@@lucatoni98wonder boy got rocked in that fight and got cut out bad whereas mvp basically came out clean and untouched mate
“I’m on holiday now but want to be in the gym” bruh…
I know a few people that train at shootfighters as I’ve been to shootfighters east, anyone that I’ve talked to that has met MVP has told me how he’s the nicest guy ever, will always be a fan.
Ian sold a stand-up banger, and performed a lame and pray. For how unlikeable Ian is, Venom is the polar opposite
If Garry said he'd lay and pray in the build up I wouldn't hate on him.
I Told everyone Ian would Win.. and the Haters still Hate 😂😂
Me 2 😂
13 ranked MVP vs 10 ranked Geoff Neal (who hasn't fought since Feb when he lost due to decision against BBL Garry also) in November at UFC 309 makes a lot of sense to me. MAKE IT OFFICIAL DANA!!!!!
This is why MVP needs to fight Wonderboy next.
- Both coming off losses
- Both getting on in age
- Wonderboy needs a win and can't risk someone who's adept in offensive wrestling
- MVP risks losing his ranking if he fights someone unranked next (usually how it goes after a top 10-15 has a loss)
- Wonderboy is more of an aggressive striker than I think MVP appreciates (just look at the Shavkat fight), so I think it would be more interesting and not become an Izzy vs Romero fight. It would be more of a "who gets the strike first" type fight.
This would be a great opener for the potential Conor card in December.
I thought MVP won, if fights are based on damage now, then how can you give it to Garry who did nothing with the takedown in the 3rd round but got out struck by MVP on the feet
Live I thought Garry won. But second time I watched it thought it was MVP because Garry didn't land anything in the 3rd. But he was in control at the end of the round which swayed judges. Even MVP thought he lost at the end clapping for Garry before the decision.
Salute MVP, but you know you feel sick about the Ian fight
Ian smoked Him
@@IsenathiDyantyi idk about "smoked" lol. He played the game well..
Someone needs to tell MVP that the UFC is not a kickboxing promotion but an MMA organization. While they are at it let him know that the welterweight division is arguably one of the deepest weight classes stacked with very well rounded fighters. If he couldn't handle Ian's wrestling imagine when he comes across a real wrestler LOL
I hate Ian Garry as much as the next man, but you’re fooling yourself if you think he’s not a real wrestler.
Just because you lost dont mean england will. Chill bro.
MVP had a big opportunity to get a lot of fans if he beat Ian. Now I’m sure many think he’s overrated.
This comment section is clueless about grappling
Fax Ian made that white belt look like an amateur. That’s how they’ll start crying when Magomed does the same to pereira. This is MMA not kickboxing.
Ian has been caught lying NUMEROUS times so I believe MVP with that and Ian using his kid as a shield was next level pathetic
Its crazy how your stock can drop after a win. Garry is just diffrent 😂
Learn how to defend grappling bro. Ian won he out grappled you
MVP, you weren't let show what you could do, hence the loss. "Stealing fights"! 😂 It matters not what Garry's "real" persona is, he beat you. You're in denial and another thing, he's ten years your junior. Good luck getting on that win streak.
I gotta say I’ve got respect for him acknowledging that he lost. Most of these fighters can’t seem to do that
I lost interest in both fighters, for only staging and giving a 40% sparring match. Didn't think either would stoop that low. But hey man, they literally stole people's hard earned money, and now masvidol and Diaz, pulled it off again now. Fighters are out smarting the UFC.
Ariel loves to pretend to like football but when someone actually gives a good football breakdown he flappsss it 🤣🤣🤣
He has the standup, just needs to prepare for all future opponents trying to wet blanket.
MVP is a sound guy comes across so normal for an mma fighter
A lot of people don’t even know MVP has 3 submission wins in MMA he just loves to strike.
said exactly what we thought he was going to say, there was a few things wrong in the lead up but doesn't tell us what, Ian couldn't stand in front of him , yes we know that but it is MMA so he did what any other mma fighter does in this situation and takes you down so you should be prepared for that,
he could have won if he wanted but he wanted to entertain, yes but previously he said he was pushing for the belt, you won't be fighting for any belt if you lose fights and of course he said he hasn't shown us anything yet in both fights, we have seen everything you do and yes you are good at it but lets not pretend you have all this other stuff you have still to reveal at your age
MVP still threw sum fast heat garry could not even see so he had to close the distance and grapple,.. if MVP fights Wonder boy no real take down or grappling just a good striking battle MVP could win that i like him lets see another MVP fight thats a stand up war that he can win not another wrestler then ,.
bro did not do the anitgrappling that he was supposed to but he demolished Ian on the standup. He made Ian look like an amateur and then made him deluded.
MVP gon' come around
MVP has been in the fight industry for a long time and garry isn't the first fighter to go for takedowns, what I saw in the fight was MVP absolutely clueless on the ground. Garry wasn't even that great at grappling.
This isn't karate or kickboxing for points. Wake up call for MVP, UFC will find you out. Disagree with MVP, you win at all costs, a game plan is crucial! Not a garry fan, but massive props to him for adapting regardless, he got the W.
He got taken down by Paul Daley. Repeatedly lol
I wanna see MVP fight in Karate Combat after he's done in the UFC
Garry quite literally tried to win through points with grappling and not through dishing damage or looking for any finishes. It was even worse to watch than a kickboxing bout. This wasn't a great take. MVP does need some semblance of takedown defense but Garry isn't doing the sport or UFC any favors with his risk-averse, boring style.
@@paulohaulo3961he's winning fights in different styles for different fighters. It's all about winning and having a shootout with MVP is a big risk for anyone. This isn't WWE U don't have to be entertaining U just have to do whatever it takes to get to a title shot. U might not like the style or even just not like Gary but he played it smart and is still moving towards a title until someone stops him.
@@whydouwanttoknow1945 Nobody wants to pay to watch those guys fight. Without aggressive and risky styles, this sport would make the same revenue as amateur wrestling or BJJ. This is not his only boring fight either, the Neal fight was ass too. The rules enable him to fight like this so yeah good for him with the forgettable victories. His ground game is just to control with no effort towards finishing is the issue here. Being risk averse and safe definitely won’t get him the belt. I can’t remember the last time that worked against a decent champion.
Keep your head up bro
MVP is such a good dude, I thought he won that fight. Garry did nothing notable besides 1 sub attempt
MVP is good but he needs to understand that he’s fighting at the highest level of mix martial arts right now. He can’t be making things pretty all the time and getting those one big hit KOs anymore. He needs to throw combinations and follow up big shots with follow up shots and small combinations. So many times he hit Gary and just stood there waiting to see the picture he painted. He did a lot of that in Bellator but he can’t be doing that in the UFC.
What a nice honest guy
“Ian didn’t want to strike with me”… Annnd you didn’t want to strike with him, so what are we talking about??
This guy is a joke. Throws one strike per minute. Boring fighter. Wonderboy is much better than this 🤡
Mvp cracked Gary with some big shots.
Tell you what Ian does have a good chin
If Page bothered to learn takedown defense he might have knocked Garry out.
MVP is too loyal to his team. If this didn’t show him that he needs a new coach (or at least wrestling coach) idk what will. Just off of his pure athleticism and IQ he could pretty quickly learn enough head/hips/hands defense, sprawls and wizards and some short offense and front headlock series to get by against probably everyone but maybe shavkat and Kamarus wrestling. Cuckchado and guys like him wouldn’t stand a chance.
Garry will lose soon if he doesn't last minute back out
MVP needs to be more serious in his fights. Plays around too much. He’s a counter striker but can’t really get the guys to strike with him.
They both show each other as not all that.
How did MVP even survive in bellator with 0 wrestling and grappling
Guaranteed this loss will MAKE MVP very dangerous
lol
I like him but I guarantee he doesn’t.
Na lol he's gonna always struggle with anyone who decides to take a grapple heavy approach and will look good against anyone who wants to stand with him. He's 37, don't see him making any massive wrestling defense improvements
He’s 37, he ain’t getting better
This is the loss that'll do it, eh?
then why did you let him beat you?
Cause MVP has no wrestling pedigree whatsoever and doesn't finish his victims when they're hurt 😅
Unfortunately, MVP should retire if he wants the belt cause he'll always have to deal with wrestling disadvantages like what happened with him and Garry when it comes to all the top 7 guys in WW.
But he should stay if he just wants fun striking matches like against Wonderboy. That's a fun fight but that's really it just fun fights, not the belt in this era
@@ymkyourmoneyking8157Ew, I don't like Ian Garry you clown. I'm just stating why that hotel chair sitter won and where MVP goes from here realistically. I'm disappointed he didn't derail that hype train. Was a bad night for combat sports other than the main event
It's disappointing Geoff didn't do Ian like how Geoff did Luque, would've been perfect sync of the Universe. And it's disappointing MVP loss and didn't beat Ian in embarrassing and spectacular fashion like I hoped.
Shavkat has to, he's just supposed do that. But the fact that Ian is still here is annoying but I have to accept it. He shouldn't even be this far along but here we are I guess 😞
@@ymkyourmoneyking8157And no it wasn't an even match. MVP was dominating your boy but Ms. Garry #2 has to clinch and wrestle for his life. Did he even do anything with top position like his trainer does with Ms. Garry #1? Ian is the most boring "fighter" I've ever witness. And people say Belal is bad 😂
Ian had to wrestle for his life and didn't do anything with top control. MVP doninated him and put a striking clinic and had em hurt. But Ian needs to go to decision by wrestling his way to survival
Even Geoff Neal had Ian hurt everytime he touched him. Look at the markings on Ian's face, princess. Dude makes every fight boring even with exciting fighters
@@ymkyourmoneyking8157 he was winning the whole fight other than maybe the second round 😂
Such an underwhelming fight and result. The fact that MVP anticipated Garry would grapple and not stand up makes it even worse
KARATE STANCE with good boxing is hard to beat, look what happened Lyoto Machida vs Rashad Evans.
And yet he still got beat..
@@thomaskendell8146 gary won but mvp wasn't beaten up or anything like that.
@@thomaskendell8146 I mean it was a toss up fight. MVP got less brain damage.
Conor
@@thomaskendell8146no beating, he took no damage
Hes delusional. Garry beat him and fought a wonderful fight He didnt ''steal a victory' and Ian almost finished him in the 1st.
He is the man a pleasure to watch it is a sport OK you make money but it is a sport he will shake your hand after it win lose or draw.Doesn’t hide come and get it if you think your hard enough on the chin.
that’s the guy that beat Ian Garry
I like him but he lost due to poor fight IQ. He had top position in round 3 and decided to stand up. Another 90 seconds on top i think he wins
My theory is that Garry's annoying personality got in MVP's head. He didn't want to lose to him. Because he's so disliked. It would suck to lose to Garry. So when he got taken down. Instead of doing what he needed to get back up. He froze and stayed overly defensive. Could be wrong, but that's my thought.
Nah I think you're half right. He just isn't good at getting up if you look at his bellator fights. But you're right, he wanted to ko him to he gave up top position and tried to get back in a rush.
He broke the England vs Netherlands game perfect
lol
I love MVP but I could see in his face he was lying about Garrys camp hahaha
MVP froze, he always does when it matters. Hes a big dissappointment.
The walkout was fire
MVP is extremely humble but he won that fight
MVP is definitely done for any chance of a title shot and is a total disappointment for now. MVP can't do s*** if someone doesn't strike with him. He is not an MMA fighter and now Dana will give him only stand-up fighters that don't grapple to pay out what he's worth. Pathetic fight from both sides and he said he couldn't wait to go to the gym but what were you doing till now? UFC is in a very dark period. Can you imagine if there is no Alex Pereira? This guy is the glue that holds the whole organization right now.
Mvp should've stayed in Bellator where he can be somewhat relevant.
MVP seems such a great guy
The supposedly "charmed snake charmer" 😂 Ian my boy is unintentionally putting together a Netflix special with these lines & clips of his delusional assessment of his skills, fights & stardom. It's entertainment, it's comedy.
The why did you,mvp,offer to pay ians friend for i formation or footage of him,you offered money, so why aint he suspended
Mvp smashed him on the feet so bad that Garry had to hold him for dear life.Garry is overrated and very boring tbf,it's not surprise that Leon kills him.Colby would have mopped the floor with him.
When the nose asked him. Do you think that's because of you or him of why you couldn't perform and MVP? Answers. Oh, it's always me and my friend. That's the biggest lie. You can tell yourself you need to be honest with yourself. And repeat, you're just not what you think you are. Ian stopped you without a problem and ended up winning the fight without a problem.And I think nine out of ten times ian wouldn't beat your azz
MVP V WONDERBOY NO BRAINER
If you knew what he was gonna do then why didnt you train for it?
I always have trouble understanding when great Strikers come into MMA and then they complain that people don't want to strike with them🤷♂️. You get paid in the sport to win fights and ignorant fans don't care about the fighters whatsoever they just want to see entertainment. Nobody that has half a brain that can grapple in MMA and is undefeated is going to risk fighting this guy and stand with him that's stupid. Guess what there are sports out there where there's no wrestling involved only striking I suggest he do that
This guy shouldn’t be yapping after his last performance 😂😂
He was the one bringing the fight to Garry, it was Garry that didn’t backup everything he was saying he’d do
He lost clean im glad hes not pretending otherwise
This is not bouncing competition dude 😂
Well they would murder you too, probably more easily than Ian even
Ian gets destroyed
So does mvp😂@@ymkyourmoneyking8157
Ian hardly murdered MVP 😂 he didnt land a strike
Ian resorted to his Irish dancing to barely scrape a win against venom
Chama
Love MVP!!!
Every single fighter that loses says “I just wasn’t myself that night” 😂. Just a sore loser. “Ian didn’t wanna strike with me” …yea cause he knew you sucked at grappling and could beat you that way lol. If dude performs like this against Ian Gary, sorry but he’s not beating the likes of Usman, Shavkat or Leon…just own up to the L, get better and move on
What is this helwoni's crush over Mvp!? Lol 😅
Well if he does then you have no chance bro you may aswell put down the gloves.
Mvp better learn wrestling and bjj or im never watching him fight again
then You won't watch Him again mos
Wonderboy vs mvp please
Botched.
Clearly lying when claiming know one tried to get info on his behalf😅🤥🤥
Ian has a better chance becoming champion then mvp does 🤦♂️ mvp is a liar he is clearly lying about trying to get intel on Ian’s camp the look on his face makes it evident.