Awesome video!!! I Frankenstined a Ping Sigma G blade putter when this armlock craze started. Sold it to a buddy of mine. I later found a Sik putter for $200 and I will never go back to conventional.
Great video AJ. Thanks! For someone like me who often builds his own clubs, your videos are a huge help. This will be a great way to try armlock putting without spending a fortune on a new putter. My other project is to build a "Not a Chipper" and test it out.
Good info. I could never get along with a traditional arm-lock putter so I tried a reverse arm-lock putter on a whim where the putter locks into my trail arm and have not looked back. Such a much better putter as a result.
There's an arm lock putter at my local golf store. Between an Odyssey Armlock and a Taylor Spider Tour... both $350, I love the feel of both, and I get consistent shots with both. Just not yet willing to part $350 for a putter....
Did you feel any need to adjust head weight? I believe most arm lock putters have a head weight of about 400g. With my DIY arm lock conversions I found that having a putter with adjustable head weight was really helpful for me to get a good feel for lag putts.
This is what I was going to mention as well. You didn't address the fact that a lot of putter heads are going to be way too light feeling and will likely need a substantial amount of weight added to them to feel right in an arm lock
Awesome video AJ. Although I don’t use one, I love the arm lock style putter especially that grip which I believe Evenroll was the first company to design that style grip. Yeah left hand low is the way too go especially with an armlock. I’ve been putting left hand low since the early 90’s ! What I don’t understand how the broomstick style putter isn’t banned entirely. Yes it’s allowed as long as the butt end is not touching your body (chest) but it’s a pendulum motion and takes out your hands entirely out from the stroke !
Isn't one of the big perks of the SIK and Cobra armlocks the descending face technology along with a maximum upright lie angle. Seems like pretty important aspects of correct armlock putting to ensure straight back straight through putting ? Simply extending a 34" 2 ball putter 6 inches would probably cause the toe to dig in ?
Hello, just wanted to ask, how long did you let the epoxy set for? Also am I understanding what you said correctly, to align the flat top side of the grip to the sight lines of the putter, and not to align it to the putter face?
AJ, I see by the time/month stamp on my previous comment that eight months have gone by since watching this video. So now I have a question in regards to ( wrist lock putter grips ), do you know if the slant of the shaft bore hole is angled to the side the same as the Arm Lock putter grips, so as to not need a loft adjustment. I have a Maltby lie/loft machine with ability to adjust putters on it, so want your opinion and maybe a new video on wrist lock putter grips being installed and used. Thanks for any reply, love your instruction videos in/on all golf related stuff...
Not sure of any other grips that use an angled bore other than the Lab putter grips. Wrist lock grips usually have a straight bore that I know of at least.
@@EFGMC Being inventive ??? I tried the old ( shine a flashlight ) down the vent hole of the top of the grip, then looked into the bottom end. The placement of the shaft goes straight into the extreme right edge of the grip, as seen from the players view looking down toward the putter head. The left side of the top end of the grip that bulges left toward the left wrist and therein fits snugly into the left wrist. Where I live in mid west Illinois the weather looks to let me play this coming Sunday, I'll put the grip on tomorrow with a three inch extension and give it a try then. Thank you so much for your reply.
Would love to see a video on installing a stability putter shaft. I have a Scotty 5s that I think is 350mm … was thinking of buying a 335mm shaft cutting it at 350mm then installing that to cut for the stability putter shaft to attach to then keeping the original shaft if I want to set up with original again… does this make sense or do I have it completely wrong?
@@paulbutler5052 You've got me confused. Feel free to send me an email with more detailed description of what you are planning because in my head it sounds strange so want to be on same page. adam@elitefitgolf.com
I don't know if more feel is the term I'd use. Just different feel. I have found that a counter balanced putter grip helps my hands feel like they work more as a single unit vs 2 independent ones.
Thanks for the great video. This could really change my game for the better. I was wondering if you thought using masking tape to install the putter grip would work like it does on irons. I wanted to try different heads and it would be easier to get the grip off and on with masking tape. Also, what about using an old shaft to extend the putter rather than ordering a shaft extender?
You can for sure use an old shaft as the extension. As for the masking tape/compressed air method. I'm just not sure it would work. I've never installed a long putter grip with air.
@@EFGMC AJ I have just bought a Jumbomax JMX Jumboflat 17 inch putter grip can I place the flat part to forearm with out adjusting the loft of my Taylormade spider putter ?
1. Instead of an extension, can you just cut an old club? I realize there will be a slight bump. 2. It looks like you cut yours a bit short. Not sure if you are getting the full benefit of the arm lock concept. Your thoughts?
You can use an old shaft, that's the way it used to be done. I cut it to what they recommended, though full disclosure I don't like any longer style putters so I'm in the end not the best case study.
Just bought the AL-3 grip. The instructions on their web site (for the AL 2 grip) says "The grip should be installed so that the logo faces out towards the ball." I don't think their wording is very good at all. I sent a question to their support people. However, the picture on the instructions show the logo facing the putter head, which makes sense, they would want their logo to face forward like that. I'm installing the AL 3 grip this weekend. I don't think they updated the instructions for the AL 3 grip but I suspect the instructions would be the same as the AL 2 grip.
Question, I'm going to try this with my Odyssey Triple Track Ten S putter, I removed the grip last night and it had a 40 Gram weight in the butt section of the shaft. It also had two 20 removable weights in the head... After installing a shaft extension do you suggest adding this much weight back into the butt of the putter? I stopped using it last summer and went back to my Red 7 Putter, so I figured the Ten would be a good one to try this with.
I'd try one is these, but I don't have enough room in any of my golf bags to allow me to shove that grip down in the bag. And if I did pull that off, then might have a problem getting the putter/grip out of the bag. Oh the humanity.
Great video AJ. I been wanting to try an Armlock putter but didn’t want to spend money on another putter, I have too many as it is. I have two identical putters so I am going to try it on one. Forgive my ignorance but I went to order the extension and you have to pick 0.580 or 0.600 butt size. What is the difference and how do I know which one I got? Thanks a million.
It's based on the size of your putter's current shaft. If you can measure with some calipers the inside diameter you will know for sure. Irons have pretty much all gone to .600 shafts these days, putters you can still get some with a .580 size. Other option just get one of each size as they are cheap.
Hey AJ. I recently found an old bullseye putter in the bag of some clubs I bought. I realised it was not as buttery as my other bullseye's because I didn't have any whipping. Have you ever tried adding whipping to dampen "bad" vibrations from putters?
I had a Bullseye that a adding tungsten powder to down the shaft. Dulled the feel way down. Ended up removing it because I preferred the feel and feedback even with less head weight. You could easily add some foam down the shaft and cut down the vibration.
i have a few questions ( unrelated to this video which was very good)on club length and unfortunately i have very no good fitters near my home. im thinking about cutting my irons dow 1". im a shorter golfer (5'5") so i think this would fit me better. do you need to add head weight for swing weight? is putting weight in the shaft he best method? how much weight is needed? thanks in advance for any insight you can offer
Take your current clubs, choke down 1 inch and go play them. If they feel light then you will want to add some weight. If you like the feel then you won't need to change. Lead tape is the easiest method to add weight but if you don't like the look, tungsten powder down the shaft would be next easiest.
What should I do if I want to change to a broomstick putter? Is it the same method with two extensions? Will the lie require changing? Can you do a video on this???
@@EFGMC most of the little companies don't see value in lefty gear, one of the reasons I picked up this hobby. I think the evnroll midlock would do something similar without the rh bias. Thanks for your content.
AJ, if golf fittings for irons are using quick removable heads and shafts at their fittings, why haven’t the OEM’s offered them for use like the new drivers? I just received new JOX923 HM Pro irons and the shafts are as typical fixed shafts in the heads. Just thought it’s interesting subject.
Aren’t the armlock putter heads totally different? Different lofts etc to compensate for the position the shaft has to be put in for the grip to run along your arm?
Why not just use belly putter? Length should be OK may even need to just trim it slightly shorter but at least no need for shaft extension. Head weight should be better for the extended length.
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Awesome video!!! I Frankenstined a Ping Sigma G blade putter when this armlock craze started. Sold it to a buddy of mine. I later found a Sik putter for $200 and I will never go back to conventional.
This just saved what I was starting to feel like was an irritating task lol. I can now just find the putter I want and convert it
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I’ve been looking to convert a putter of mine for a while now. Great information. Thanks!
Great video AJ. Thanks! For someone like me who often builds his own clubs, your videos are a huge help. This will be a great way to try armlock putting without spending a fortune on a new putter. My other project is to build a "Not a Chipper" and test it out.
Brilliant. Edel putter.. Tried it, used it, love it.
Always a pleasure to watch because you know what, I have to replace all my grips . . . lots of good visuals, thank you.
Good info. I could never get along with a traditional arm-lock putter so I tried a reverse arm-lock putter on a whim where the putter locks into my trail arm and have not looked back. Such a much better putter as a result.
Did you have to decrease the loft of your putter? Or do you move the ball back in your stance?
There's an arm lock putter at my local golf store. Between an Odyssey Armlock and a Taylor Spider Tour... both $350, I love the feel of both, and I get consistent shots with both. Just not yet willing to part $350 for a putter....
Also try a heavy putter. It's made a significant difference in my putting. For me, rhythm and a smooth pendulum motion are much easier to achieve.
Did you feel any need to adjust head weight? I believe most arm lock putters have a head weight of about 400g. With my DIY arm lock conversions I found that having a putter with adjustable head weight was really helpful for me to get a good feel for lag putts.
This is what I was going to mention as well. You didn't address the fact that a lot of putter heads are going to be way too light feeling and will likely need a substantial amount of weight added to them to feel right in an arm lock
Especially when that grip weighs almost 300g!
I didn't notice it with this model. The giant version I did think would need some extra head weight.
Awesome video AJ. Although I don’t use one, I love the arm lock style putter especially that grip which I believe Evenroll was the first company to design that style grip. Yeah left hand low is the way too go especially with an armlock. I’ve been putting left hand low since the early 90’s !
What I don’t understand how the broomstick style putter isn’t banned entirely. Yes it’s allowed as long as the butt end is not touching your body (chest) but it’s a pendulum motion and takes out your hands entirely out from the stroke !
Isn't one of the big perks of the SIK and Cobra armlocks the descending face technology along with a maximum upright lie angle. Seems like pretty important aspects of correct armlock putting to ensure straight back straight through putting ? Simply extending a 34" 2 ball putter 6 inches would probably cause the toe to dig in ?
Do a build your own broomstick please! I understand it won’t be as easy as a specially bored grip
Hello, just wanted to ask, how long did you let the epoxy set for? Also am I understanding what you said correctly, to align the flat top side of the grip to the sight lines of the putter, and not to align it to the putter face?
AJ, I see by the time/month stamp on my previous comment that eight months have gone by since watching this video. So now I have a question in regards to ( wrist lock putter grips ), do you know if the slant of the shaft bore hole is angled to the side the same as the Arm Lock putter grips, so as to not need a loft adjustment. I have a Maltby lie/loft machine with ability to adjust putters on it, so want your opinion and maybe a new video on wrist lock putter grips being installed and used. Thanks for any reply, love your instruction videos in/on all golf related stuff...
Not sure of any other grips that use an angled bore other than the Lab putter grips. Wrist lock grips usually have a straight bore that I know of at least.
@@EFGMC Being inventive ??? I tried the old ( shine a flashlight ) down the vent hole of the top of the grip, then looked into the bottom end. The placement of the shaft goes straight into the extreme right edge of the grip, as seen from the players view looking down toward the putter head. The left side of the top end of the grip that bulges left toward the left wrist and therein fits snugly into the left wrist. Where I live in mid west Illinois the weather looks to let me play this coming Sunday, I'll put the grip on tomorrow with a three inch extension and give it a try then. Thank you so much for your reply.
Great job...could you flip the grip around and use it for a reverse arm lock putter and putt braced against your rear arm?
I guess though the flat side would be face down.
Any thoughts on wristlock putter conversions? Love your videos AJ, I've messaged you before, you are a real inspiration.
I have not messed around with any. Have not had anyone bring me one to install/convert.
Would love to see a video on installing a stability putter shaft.
I have a Scotty 5s that I think is 350mm … was thinking of buying a 335mm shaft cutting it at 350mm then installing that to cut for the stability putter shaft to attach to then keeping the original shaft if I want to set up with original again… does this make sense or do I have it completely wrong?
What is 350mm the measurement for?
@@EFGMC sorry it’s 355mm or .355 (the Scotty shaft)
@@paulbutler5052 You've got me confused. Feel free to send me an email with more detailed description of what you are planning because in my head it sounds strange so want to be on same page.
adam@elitefitgolf.com
If you did the flat side down on install, would it make the angle beneficial for a "reverse Lock" putter grip? Like Kucher?
Yes, the angle would be set for a reverse lock.
Are there any loft considerations for using just a wrist lock grip?
Depends on how you end up anchoring the grip against your wrist. Need to keep an eye on it and see if you are delofting more/less with that setup.
So the heavier grip raises the balance point of the club making it have more feel, correct?
I don't know if more feel is the term I'd use. Just different feel. I have found that a counter balanced putter grip helps my hands feel like they work more as a single unit vs 2 independent ones.
Thanks for the great video. This could really change my game for the better. I was wondering if you thought using masking tape to install the putter grip would work like it does on irons. I wanted to try different heads and it would be easier to get the grip off and on with masking tape. Also, what about using an old shaft to extend the putter rather than ordering a shaft extender?
You can for sure use an old shaft as the extension. As for the masking tape/compressed air method. I'm just not sure it would work. I've never installed a long putter grip with air.
Could a regular broomstick putter be easily modified to a face on/ sidesaddle putter?
How do you know what size extension to buy?
Need to measure the inner diameter of the putter shaft with a caliper. Putter shafts are trickier than iron shafts at this point.
Would it be better to have flat side up against forearm ?
Not with this grip since it has an angled bore. A traditional grip you might want the flat side up against your forearm.
@@EFGMC AJ I have just bought a Jumbomax JMX Jumboflat 17 inch putter grip can I place the flat part to forearm with out adjusting the loft of my Taylormade spider putter ?
@@stevendickinson2897 Likely will require some bending to add back some loft but I can't say without seeing you putt with it.
Thanks AJ for your help keep up the great content vids
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1. Instead of an extension, can you just cut an old club? I realize there will be a slight bump. 2. It looks like you cut yours a bit short. Not sure if you are getting the full benefit of the arm lock concept. Your thoughts?
You can use an old shaft, that's the way it used to be done. I cut it to what they recommended, though full disclosure I don't like any longer style putters so I'm in the end not the best case study.
Just bought the AL-3 grip.
The instructions on their web site (for the AL 2 grip) says "The grip should be installed so that the logo faces out towards the ball." I don't think their wording is very good at all. I sent a question to their support people. However, the picture on the instructions show the logo facing the putter head, which makes sense, they would want their logo to face forward like that. I'm installing the AL 3 grip this weekend. I don't think they updated the instructions for the AL 3 grip but I suspect the instructions would be the same as the AL 2 grip.
Logo up. Just make sure it looks the same as mine did in the video and you will be good.
Will this work with a center-shafted putter?
Yes
Where did you get the extension?
Golfworks
Do you need a heavy putter head (400gm) or do you still have enough feel with a standard head (360gm)?
I think heavier is probably better but I did it with a traditional 360 here and did not have issues with weight.
Question, I'm going to try this with my Odyssey Triple Track Ten S putter, I removed the grip last night and it had a 40 Gram weight in the butt section of the shaft. It also had two 20 removable weights in the head... After installing a shaft extension do you suggest adding this much weight back into the butt of the putter? I stopped using it last summer and went back to my Red 7 Putter, so I figured the Ten would be a good one to try this with.
I'd try one is these, but I don't have enough room in any of my golf bags to allow me to shove that grip down in the bag. And if I did pull that off, then might have a problem getting the putter/grip out of the bag. Oh the humanity.
Great video AJ. I been wanting to try an Armlock putter but didn’t want to spend money on another putter, I have too many as it is. I have two identical putters so I am going to try it on one. Forgive my ignorance but I went to order the extension and you have to pick 0.580 or 0.600 butt size. What is the difference and how do I know which one I got? Thanks a million.
It's based on the size of your putter's current shaft. If you can measure with some calipers the inside diameter you will know for sure. Irons have pretty much all gone to .600 shafts these days, putters you can still get some with a .580 size. Other option just get one of each size as they are cheap.
@@EFGMC I thought about doing that and getting both. Thanks for the quick reply.
Hi, can a belly putter be converted to a armlock putter
Yes, Just will need to adjust the loft and lie depending on the putter and your setup with it.
this grip lists a 432 gram wgt/ does this have a counterbalanced effect?
Yes, some but since we also lengthened the shaft the change wasn't that noticeable.
Hey AJ. I recently found an old bullseye putter in the bag of some clubs I bought. I realised it was not as buttery as my other bullseye's because I didn't have any whipping. Have you ever tried adding whipping to dampen "bad" vibrations from putters?
PS added whipping .. got the butter.
I had a Bullseye that a adding tungsten powder to down the shaft. Dulled the feel way down. Ended up removing it because I preferred the feel and feedback even with less head weight.
You could easily add some foam down the shaft and cut down the vibration.
i have a few questions ( unrelated to this video which was very good)on club length and unfortunately i have very no good fitters near my home. im thinking about cutting my irons dow 1". im a shorter golfer (5'5") so i think this would fit me better. do you need to add head weight for swing weight? is putting weight in the shaft he best method? how much weight is needed? thanks in advance for any insight you can offer
Take your current clubs, choke down 1 inch and go play them. If they feel light then you will want to add some weight. If you like the feel then you won't need to change.
Lead tape is the easiest method to add weight but if you don't like the look, tungsten powder down the shaft would be next easiest.
Have you installed the A1 converter; is so, did you use the solvent method or compressed air method?
What should I do if I want to change to a broomstick putter?
Is it the same method with two extensions?
Will the lie require changing?
Can you do a video on this???
Would this work for a lefty or would this reverse for southpaw
This one was RH specific. I would check the website and see if they offer LH.
@@EFGMC most of the little companies don't see value in lefty gear, one of the reasons I picked up this hobby. I think the evnroll midlock would do something similar without the rh bias. Thanks for your content.
Man I hate being left-handed. I loved it when I played baseball, I hate it now as a golfer. We're always forgotten about, no one cares about us 😔
@@reformedcraftsman3373 Did you check with them to make sure they don't have one?
@@EFGMC I checked the website and I didn't see a left handed option.
I would have thought the flat part of the grip would be the part that rests on the arm.
On this model it sits in the up position like a traditional grip.
I thought that too that would stop putter turning on arm
Seemed like the flat side of grip should face forward…no?
Not on this. The angled bore in the grip is designed to have flat side up like most traditional grips.
AJ, if golf fittings for irons are using quick removable heads and shafts at their fittings, why haven’t the OEM’s offered them for use like the new drivers? I just received new JOX923 HM Pro irons and the shafts are as typical fixed shafts in the heads. Just thought it’s interesting subject.
Aren’t the armlock putter heads totally different? Different lofts etc to compensate for the position the shaft has to be put in for the grip to run along your arm?
That's the whole point of this particular grip. It angles the shaft for you, so you don't bend the loft at all.
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Why not just use belly putter? Length should be OK may even need to just trim it slightly shorter but at least no need for shaft extension. Head weight should be better for the extended length.
You can. They are just harder to find these days.
Ebay has a lot available for under $100. I just bought a Cleveland belly putter for $49.