the reason this works so well is the thing that takes out the planes isnt necessary the cvs aa its the combat air patrol (unless its the ranger or you eat flack) and the problem with the combat air patrol is its range is bad plus if you recall your squad they will drop aggro
I'm now grinding Russia. Skip bombs and torpedoes work so well together because they're both broadside weapons, so you can build a whole playstyle around it
It isn't trolling it is just the optimal move strategically because you are taking out the one ship that is worth the most points on the scoreboard, can hit anyone anywhere, and the only way to manually counter them is evasive maneuvers; so if simply just makes sense
I’ve always played USS ranger ever since I got her. But now I can’t wait to try out soviet carrier and thank you for your advice. I think it’s very entertaining to see a person like you making these type of videos so please keep doing so♥️🙏🇺🇸
Personally I really hate the Soviet aircraft carriers!!!.. I understand why people would go for them but it’s not fun when you’re a carrier that has a lower advantage such as lack of speed. however I’ve managed to actually learn their weaknesses.
My favorite ship is the furious my usual strategy if it presents itself is to drop my 1st set of torps on a battleship preferably or a cruiser then use my remaining 4 planes to make it to the carrier and hit that with 2nd set hopefully getting any sort of incapacitation forcing the carrier to automatically use damage control then hit them with the bombs doing good damage but with the main goal of atarting fires I've been able to take out carriers with 2 attacks this way
One thing to add that reinforces the "cv counter" idea is that serov is the only one who drops a group of 5 fighters, that leaves one plane left in a squad. Lmao
Anyone that uses the term 'Carrier Sniping" is unfamiliar with naval warfare tactics. Using the Battle of Midway as a reference "Carrier Sniping" is fast quick strategy specially when using the Serov alpha strike. ( great minds think alike) Depending on the strategic quality of my team mates. Hunting down the enemy carrier within the first few mintues will guarantee a win. Specially like you said if your enemy carrier is a higher tier. Ark Royal, Lexington etc....sink as soon as possible. Which is the carrier primary purpose in naval warfare. ( Many a WOW players seem not to know this ) However when hunting down CV's any DD that I find gets a blast just to lower their life. As well as scouting their position for my teams mates ...if they notice. Keeping the Serov moving as great way to keep alive. My favorite move is support any good aggressive move into a cap. Best A or C, cause B will get you out flanked and harder to defend. Support a good strong aggressive push and clear one side of game field. Then start working your way down the line. A few times have had toe to toe shoot outs with secondaries with enemy CV's in their own back field cause we pushed so hard. Plus alot of inexperience players seem to play their CV stationary or hiding behind a island. Bad move, sunk many who play like this. If spotted by unseen DD again "Zig Zag Pattern" as torpedo defense . Again tradition naval tactic work in this game. If you aim "skip bomb" at CV waterline, you will get citadel or 2, push "fire". Leaving just one more aplha strike for a kill. Skip bombing is perfect for fast moving DDs I find. There are a lot of 1st shooter gamers playing WOW, so not worried when I hear or see ppl playing like Rambo. "Micro Transitioners" a term my 19 yr old Twitch gaming son calls people who pay for all the fixings . Without learning how to play or strategize . There are tons in WOW. This dad has been playing WOW since 2019 and haven't paid a single penny. Just on my game play have accorded all the Commanders, just reached tier VII. Earned all but 2 trophies and have a 3k ship sunk in 5k of battles. With a 33 % main gun rate, 16 % torpedos. Serov for some reason I ve been cleaning up ...."Sniping" LOL How am I doing ?
Ha, I just assumed there was an unwritten rule that carriers didn’t attack carriers. I can see at tier V they typically shred planes but at tier iii that’s less the case.
actually, at least for us and Japan carriers is better to use skip bombers, well aimed they mostly get citadel damage, it means 5-6 cits or like 30k dmg in one drop
There are many counters to the Russian CVs and if you cant dodge those slow ass torps.... maybe you need to play something else. they're not OP you just need to play a bit better, next players will be saying a 50K citadel from a battleship is OP when you shouldn't be showing your broadside!
the other thing you should be doing with the Soviet carriers is pushing up as much as you can because the closer you are to your attack point the faster you can cycle planes out and the more dangerous and deadly you become! you can easily chunk out 100k damage in under 5 minutes if you're within 6km of your target on the other side of a mountain. it's literally fire and forget technology and you simple just grab another squad and drop, grab squad and drop, grab squad and drop... it's nearly endless and tends to push the enemy back. the rocket planes are capable of hitting high damage salvos on battleships as well as setting numerous fires. the Soviet carrier line is probably the most broken thing to come out in the last 6 months...
@@sam-bf4lt lol... ah pleb version... prolly too hard to aim since they're fast and the reticle requires a bit more precision than you can get out of joysticks.
@@Chiligamez17 this was way too strong as well. I don’t understand how it’s so hard to make every nation equally strong. Right now there is no doubt that Russian and German CV‘s are stronger than eg American ones and they don’t seem to change that
if only there was a consumable the other CV had where you could decimate the enemies CV planes with some form of fighter plane... Nah lets moan on RUclips instead.
@@Kenneth_McGrew those fighters take to long till they attack they always allow one attack run. The only way would be to place your fighters before which will be hard when you have better targets in the opposite direction
Tbh I dont know why wows is adding ships that don’t really exist into a world war 2 naval combat game. It just makes the ships that actually did exist seem terrible to play as
The only Navy that was laying down ships in great numbers toward the end of WW2 was the USN. Wargaming needs to release planned ships at this point to keep content going into the game. Soon there will be completely fictional ships that are added........probably.
Absolute bs wow legends have nerfed it to the hilt 2 runs 30 secs flight 6 broadside hits no damage no fires level 16 legend 3 level cmdr 2 inspiration cmdr level 16 legend 3 happening every game now like just take CVS out if your gonna do this then let dds have a free run well done developers!!!
This strat isn't worth it. Go ahead and waste 4 minutes. In that time I'll waste your DD(s), and pick apart an entire flank while you're letting your team be left out for easy picking
These Russian carriers have all the things that put them above the rest. Very fast, hard to damage, wide skipping high damage bombs, and fanned torpedoes. Such insulting bias bullshit, idk how they keep acting like they're not favoring russian ships.
They Nerfed the hell out of CV's - cant do this anymore with the fuel limits.. Go Figure! Wargaming sees people having fun, and then quickly find a way to end the "Fun"
This might be secretly brilliant on wargaming's part. If both carriers spend their time tearing each other apart they'll leave the rest of us alone.
Man, those torp bombers fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down 😂... look like the old C119 "Boxcars"
Hmmm seems OP. That carrier player was a spoon beaching his ship tho
I feel that it wouldn’t be this easy if that red CV was not staying still 😂
I was actually thinking about this strategy last night. It would be scary to go up against a division with people who know what they are doing
It’s the awesome torpedo spread that gives a BIG advantage…
the reason this works so well is the thing that takes out the planes isnt necessary the cvs aa its the combat air patrol (unless its the ranger or you eat flack) and the problem with the combat air patrol is its range is bad plus if you recall your squad they will drop aggro
No planes are OP in the shadow of the Cheshire, Worcester, or Minotaur 🤣 love my AA builds!
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And every time I take one of those ships out there's no carrier. Yeah, I could division up with a carrier, but no one I know has tier 7 carriers.
All the carriers should be able to select if you want two plans for planes eight planes
I'm now grinding Russia. Skip bombs and torpedoes work so well together because they're both broadside weapons, so you can build a whole playstyle around it
Man. I wish the German carriers had Stuka
Tier 7 American carrier launched 1927.
Tier 7 soviet carrier designed 1950.
Small difference
great point
It isn't trolling it is just the optimal move strategically because you are taking out the one ship that is worth the most points on the scoreboard, can hit anyone anywhere, and the only way to manually counter them is evasive maneuvers; so if simply just makes sense
I’ve always played USS ranger ever since I got her. But now I can’t wait to try out soviet carrier and thank you for your advice. I think it’s very entertaining to see a person like you making these type of videos so please keep doing so♥️🙏🇺🇸
I started with USS cvs and they wasn’t fun until you could drop 6 bombs per drop(some years ago)
Personally I really hate the Soviet aircraft carriers!!!.. I understand why people would go for them but it’s not fun when you’re a carrier that has a lower advantage such as lack of speed. however I’ve managed to actually learn their weaknesses.
Inspirations: Raizo Tanaka and Deng Schishang with every ability for torps -> Man, he dead.
You could still just do 2 runs in tier VII and put fear in the other CV.
I’ve done this but if your staying still you’re already a newb, the torps are ultra slow
visible pain for DD with skip bombs
My favorite ship is the furious my usual strategy if it presents itself is to drop my 1st set of torps on a battleship preferably or a cruiser then use my remaining 4 planes to make it to the carrier and hit that with 2nd set hopefully getting any sort of incapacitation forcing the carrier to automatically use damage control then hit them with the bombs doing good damage but with the main goal of atarting fires I've been able to take out carriers with 2 attacks this way
One thing to add that reinforces the "cv counter" idea is that serov is the only one who drops a group of 5 fighters, that leaves one plane left in a squad. Lmao
Anyone that uses the term 'Carrier Sniping" is unfamiliar with naval warfare tactics.
Using the Battle of Midway as a reference "Carrier Sniping" is fast quick strategy specially when using the Serov alpha strike. ( great minds think alike)
Depending on the strategic quality of my team mates. Hunting down the enemy carrier within the first few mintues will guarantee a win. Specially like you said if your enemy carrier is a higher tier. Ark Royal, Lexington etc....sink as soon as possible. Which is the carrier primary purpose in naval warfare. ( Many a WOW players seem not to know this )
However when hunting down CV's any DD that I find gets a blast just to lower their life. As well as scouting their position for my teams mates ...if they notice.
Keeping the Serov moving as great way to keep alive. My favorite move is support any good aggressive move into a cap. Best A or C, cause B will get you out flanked and harder to defend. Support a good strong aggressive push and clear one side of game field. Then start working your way down the line. A few times have had toe to toe shoot outs with secondaries with enemy CV's in their own back field cause we pushed so hard.
Plus alot of inexperience players seem to play their CV stationary or hiding behind a island. Bad move, sunk many who play like this.
If spotted by unseen DD again "Zig Zag Pattern" as torpedo defense . Again tradition naval tactic work in this game.
If you aim "skip bomb" at CV waterline, you will get citadel or 2, push "fire". Leaving just one more aplha strike for a kill. Skip bombing is perfect for fast moving DDs I find.
There are a lot of 1st shooter gamers playing WOW, so not worried when I hear or see ppl playing like Rambo. "Micro Transitioners" a term my 19 yr old Twitch gaming son calls people who pay for all the fixings . Without learning how to play or strategize . There are tons in WOW.
This dad has been playing WOW since 2019 and haven't paid a single penny. Just on my game play have accorded all the Commanders, just reached tier VII. Earned all but 2 trophies and have a 3k ship sunk in 5k of battles. With a 33 % main gun rate, 16 % torpedos.
Serov for some reason I ve been cleaning up ...."Sniping" LOL
How am I doing ?
Soooo… Would I like the Russian CVS if I like say, the British CVS? Also I’ve been looking for a way to kill CVs as a CV easier
Ha, I just assumed there was an unwritten rule that carriers didn’t attack carriers.
I can see at tier V they typically shred planes but at tier iii that’s less the case.
So it’s kinda like old carrier aircrafts before the carrier rework patch on pc.
actually, at least for us and Japan carriers is better to use skip bombers, well aimed they mostly get citadel damage, it means 5-6 cits or like 30k dmg in one drop
Do they come with their own tugboat ?
What does cv and bb means
when the cv is so op it destroys other cv
So this forces air craft carrier players into only using the Russian carrier?
*psssst*
Even before the cv rework we used to call it a "headshot" ;)
TOXIC
Haha thanks for sharing Tommy. I dig it
Hello there
There are many counters to the Russian CVs and if you cant dodge those slow ass torps.... maybe you need to play something else. they're not OP you just need to play a bit better, next players will be saying a 50K citadel from a battleship is OP when you shouldn't be showing your broadside!
I would love to see a pseudo 899 begone brigade in legends!
what nation starscream can be equipped with ?
He was in the second wave of transformers. He is a German carrier commandet
@@TOMMYBOY601 nice,thanks
Just saw Dodge till you detonate on Yuro channel
I honestly don't understand what people have against carriers....
Very advanced strategy I’m about to say for the Russian aircraft carriers
He he they drop lots of bombs go brrrr
Sank an American bb today 12 torpedoes deliciously evil
Of course the Russians non existent carriers will have the best tactics.
I love it. Punish the CV players who sit in the corner all game.
the other thing you should be doing with the Soviet carriers is pushing up as much as you can because the closer you are to your attack point the faster you can cycle planes out and the more dangerous and deadly you become! you can easily chunk out 100k damage in under 5 minutes if you're within 6km of your target on the other side of a mountain. it's literally fire and forget technology and you simple just grab another squad and drop, grab squad and drop, grab squad and drop... it's nearly endless and tends to push the enemy back. the rocket planes are capable of hitting high damage salvos on battleships as well as setting numerous fires. the Soviet carrier line is probably the most broken thing to come out in the last 6 months...
The legends CVS have no rockets
@@doomguy.23frommars60 eh... i'm not partial to mobile gaming so i dont pay attention to that kind of stuff
@@ToeCutter454 they don't have rockets on console
@@sam-bf4lt lol... ah pleb version... prolly too hard to aim since they're fast and the reticle requires a bit more precision than you can get out of joysticks.
@@ToeCutter454 pleb Version? Not having rockets is good and carriers aren't brokenly OP like on pc lol
*"We have reserves"*
I‘m sorry but these alpha strikes are way too strong and there is no reason only the Russian carriers should have them
You must have not been around when parseval had a 29k AP bomb alpha strike
@@Chiligamez17 this was way too strong as well. I don’t understand how it’s so hard to make every nation equally strong. Right now there is no doubt that Russian and German CV‘s are stronger than eg American ones and they don’t seem to change that
if only there was a consumable the other CV had where you could decimate the enemies CV planes with some form of fighter plane... Nah lets moan on RUclips instead.
@@Kenneth_McGrew appareantely you do not understand what I mean because you are no CV player
@@Kenneth_McGrew those fighters take to long till they attack they always allow one attack run. The only way would be to place your fighters before which will be hard when you have better targets in the opposite direction
Love the content keep it up
Tbh I dont know why wows is adding ships that don’t really exist into a world war 2 naval combat game. It just makes the ships that actually did exist seem terrible to play as
The only Navy that was laying down ships in great numbers toward the end of WW2 was the USN. Wargaming needs to release planned ships at this point to keep content going into the game. Soon there will be completely fictional ships that are added........probably.
The Soviet aircraft carriers weren’t even designed
I’ve only found one and it was a Cold War era ship
Tell wg to fix the jp carrier l'm P*** I waste my time grinding that line
Arent they banned?
Absolute bs wow legends have nerfed it to the hilt 2 runs 30 secs flight 6 broadside hits no damage no fires level 16 legend 3 level cmdr 2 inspiration cmdr level 16 legend 3 happening every game now like just take CVS out if your gonna do this then let dds have a free run well done developers!!!
This strat isn't worth it. Go ahead and waste 4 minutes. In that time I'll waste your DD(s), and pick apart an entire flank while you're letting your team be left out for easy picking
These Russian carriers have all the things that put them above the rest. Very fast, hard to damage, wide skipping high damage bombs, and fanned torpedoes. Such insulting bias bullshit, idk how they keep acting like they're not favoring russian ships.
To me the Russian CV is tier 10.
i didn´t like cv´s from the start - now with russians, i hate them... can´t see any fun in
playing them...
They Nerfed the hell out of CV's - cant do this anymore with the fuel limits.. Go Figure!
Wargaming sees people having fun, and then quickly find a way to end the "Fun"