More than showing how broken carriers are I think this match is a wonderful highlight of how unbelievably brain dead high level play is right now. Far too many times I see matches like this where the whole team just lemming trains into oblivion. My team and the enemy team. I swear I've had more interesting matches again smarter opponents at tiers 3, 4 and 5 than I have at tiers 7, 8 and legendary.
Please share for the class by what asinine logic this shows carriers as “broken”? Because he says he’s bad at them but manages an ok game? That’s not proof.
@@HMAlaska I would but there are ways to have a conversation and starting out with "Please share for the class" is NOT the way to start that conversation. Not to mention it's "share WITH the class" not "share FOR the class". I see your NWU's in your profile pic so I know for a fact you know how to be respectful. Also if you actually read what I said I said MORE THAN showing carriers being broken. Meaning I felt that the highlight point of this video should have been the ineptitude of the enemy team and how in high level play you see teams like what he faced far more often than you should. Personally I find carriers annoying rather than broken.
I personally love playing carriers. I always die too fast playing other battleships. My overall dmg is actually higher when playing CVs since I'm able to stay alive for most of the match. Along with ability to scout, I feel like I'm providing more value for my team playing carriers rather than other ships.
But for a damagepool of 6 Battleships who are in the game, 106 DMG is not much. You would have more DMG if you played any other BS. So i don't think CVs are OP. And you have to do more movement if the red team manages to playing better as this one. Sometimes you wish, you could sit in the back and drop bombs and torps at the enemy, but you have to run for your life the hole time. It really depends on the situation and the teams.
Its more that they get that kind of damage and utility while risking nothing that makes them OP. Also, this wasn't a particularly great game. Spartan openly said he doesn't like cv's and isn't very good in them.
Now I can't wait to get this one myself. One more Project segment to go. About the only difference with your Commander build and mine is that I run Geisler for secondary reload, and Tanaka for Hull Crusher for that extra torpedo damage. Nothing quite like having American aerial torps that hit like Japanese aerial torps, right?
Whoa! I thought Spartan swore to never again jump into a Carrier. Hanging around at the back of the map in a Carrier just to launch planes isn't my idea of fun. That tactic reminds me of the British Tank Destroyer The Death Star.
It would be irresponsible and extremely neglectful as a cc to ignore carriers. Carriers play is awesome fun and a brilliant skill based addition to the game. They are very difficult to play and require intelligence and skill.( high tiers ) How often do you see them in top place on the board ? You don't . Try being competitive in a cv ......... nope not easy at all. Many people enjoy them every day and serve their team in many ways to spot the enemy dd and to render assistance and help them secure their win. They are here to stay. 😊
@@peterjoyce4223 also spartan was surprised that all 4 torps was a total of 20k dmg. (Potential dmg) That's nothing, one shimakaze torp or top tier IJN DD can do that amount with only one mind you. And those HE bombers are like the British BBs shooting HE.
I hope eventually we get a British legendary grade carrier, maybe audacious or Malta, tho Tbf I see audacious before ng a tech tree shop if they continue that
Legends players: "It's so stupid how players just ball up. We need something to tell players about the strategy of crossfires" Wargaming: "Alright. Here's Will to Rebuild and Carriers. Have fun" 🤣
One way to keep players from balling up, would be to have something that forces them (barrier, divide, etc), to stay on their sides for lioe 4 or 5 mins. Then, the "something" would disappear and they could go anywhere they wanted. This would solve so much to include positions being overloading early game.
@@believeinahero6655 you can’t do that, it’s down to to person how he/she wants to play, you can’t force people to take a direction/route they don’t want to go, it’s a war strategy game so you use what strategy you want, if they added that to the game I wouldn’t play
Screw carriers, spartan you think you have bad luck. The other day I take out my new Mexico, first game of the day just trying to warm up. The carrier is the Ark Royal. Of course he chooses to attack me, hits me with one drop, 15 k gone and 2 fires. I then proceed to DC. He flies back around and TRIPLE FIRES ME!!! Taking 25k and then, he comes back with torpes and kills me... safe to say I threw my controller and stopped playing the game 😂😂😂
Sorry that response isn’t entirely true. Remember back during August they were saying that they were changing coastlines on maps. That was the signal that they are and have been altering maps to accommodate submarines. According to some of the communities in Europe, these guys have been uncanny on predicting legends additions with a month or two error, some expect subs by late summer.. I personally have no strong feelings about this.
i love your channel. Its my main go to for learning this game. i must ask and i hope you can tell me, How did you get all of those legendary ships?!?! thats amazing!!!!! I just dont get how its done other than playing for 22 years. Anyway, thankyou for the content.
Takes a long time to grind the bureau for sure but having all the ships and commanders to speed up the bureau helps Also log in every day to keep progress going and do your missions in AI because it makes them super easy to get the wins you need
What a piece of c..p carrier. I just had a game where all 3 of my first attacks where shredded by aa before i could drop bombs or torpedos. I'm back to Saipan and Kaga
Open the big map with select button and then move cursor to a square on the map you want to move to and hold x button on xbox or square on ps. Welcome to the game and to the channel. Hope you enjoy
Spartan midway is like saipan, HE is nice but the torpedoes is where is at, i got raizo tanaka and the other pan asian commander that boost torp dmg, and oh man my torps are dealing 8k+ a hit, and oh man, i love farming gks and yammies with those 4 torps per drop
Waaaaaiiiiittt a second! Spartan plays a carrier?!?!? Did you hit your head? 😂😂Or is this is end of days stuff, playing carriers, fire & brimstone, cats and dogs living together......what next??
Y'all are going to probably hate me for this but I main aircraft carriers and I'm currently trying to get the midway because my dad served on that ship he was in operation desert shield, desert storm, and desert victory I'm on segment 8 and I'm really trying to get the midway it's my favorite ship
@@SpartanElite43 LoL thanks I just love it that the same frickin ship my dad served on is in the game as soon as I saw the ship for 30 mil I started grinding credits desperately to get it
Big fan as usual Spartan but I think you sour grapes on Midway is misguided. A 20,000 damage for a bomb run being too much? Come on a Conquer can beat that easy and hit it more often. So can most of the other legendary BBS. You can get get nicked by a stray torp and almost get that done to you. Carriers are a all or nothing situation. You get fairly good offense, the only one in the game that can be stopped after launch by the way. Your planes being shot down nullifies the run. But you have almost no reliable defenses for anything not plane based. As for this games version of Midway. She is woefully lacking. Bombs? Tier 7 actually do more damage. Torpedo strikes? Saipans is actually better. The ace in the hole for top end carriers on PC is attack aircraft. We do not get them. Now let talk about planes. Despite the description saying she had the largest deck and capacity Midway plane regen is the slowest in the game and she has less on deck than I think even tier 5.Keeping in mind this add that just a about everything she will come across has god tier AA. If you are not constantly changing out wounded planes you can get deplaned really easy. Hakryu isn’t in a much better situation she can make new plane fast as hell absolutely but the plane are made of tissue paper and not fast enough to avoid being in the large AA bubbles to long. All in all the legendary carriers are big dogs. But these bogs are flabby and missing most of their teeth.
@@SpartanElite43 and they can easily defend themselves. You know the long range sniper players in FPS games same deal as carriers. Anyone gets close to a carrier what the odds it will survive? In hands of a decent player? zero. Well I guess carriers are just going to be the Brussels sprouts of this game some people love the some are revolted. Either way variety is the spice of life. I’m still going to play the game and watch your stuff. See ya on the seas Spartan
Good comment, playing a CV well is not easy and the Legendary Carriers are unimpressive. The only OP CV is Ark Royal and it’s going to be nerfed because of player base whinging.
Cvs shine at the end of the match sadly and low tier dd bum rushers can be a pain as with high tier if cvs are stupid so are subs and over pens on broadsides etc whats next factory duds? lol. The lag rockets suck when getting bum rushed also.
Carriers are brilliant, but there is two many cry babys out there who hate carriers and wow have messed Up carriers now, but there is also too many low t players playing high lvl and Only wanting to kill carriers. It's stupid
It hurts so much to watch an evidently inexperienced carrier player play a TOP TIER carrier. I love your videos but im sorry no offense. Should not be able to play tgis without experience!
Dang spartan you suck in carriers! No plane shield use. Getting wrecked by fighter planes and one dd on the other team that u didn’t spot. U just got lucky the other team was dumb.
More than showing how broken carriers are I think this match is a wonderful highlight of how unbelievably brain dead high level play is right now. Far too many times I see matches like this where the whole team just lemming trains into oblivion. My team and the enemy team. I swear I've had more interesting matches again smarter opponents at tiers 3, 4 and 5 than I have at tiers 7, 8 and legendary.
Not broken in fact at this point they are nearly rendered useless and its a damn shame.
Please share for the class by what asinine logic this shows carriers as “broken”? Because he says he’s bad at them but manages an ok game? That’s not proof.
@@HMAlaska I would but there are ways to have a conversation and starting out with "Please share for the class" is NOT the way to start that conversation. Not to mention it's "share WITH the class" not "share FOR the class". I see your NWU's in your profile pic so I know for a fact you know how to be respectful.
Also if you actually read what I said I said MORE THAN showing carriers being broken. Meaning I felt that the highlight point of this video should have been the ineptitude of the enemy team and how in high level play you see teams like what he faced far more often than you should. Personally I find carriers annoying rather than broken.
Worst Players in Free to Download Games... the Player Base is the reason i play 5 games a week TOPS
@@dustinmartin6800 What do you play then that has the excellent player base and is free ? Just curious
Spartan. You sent a bunch of planes to attack without activating plane armor with an enemy patrol aircraft overhead. You are a genius !
I personally love playing carriers. I always die too fast playing other battleships. My overall dmg is actually higher when playing CVs since I'm able to stay alive for most of the match. Along with ability to scout, I feel like I'm providing more value for my team playing carriers rather than other ships.
7 Marlboroughs? Spartan must of found the entire Royal Navy in this match
But for a damagepool of 6 Battleships who are in the game, 106 DMG is not much. You would have more DMG if you played any other BS. So i don't think CVs are OP.
And you have to do more movement if the red team manages to playing better as this one. Sometimes you wish, you could sit in the back and drop bombs and torps at the enemy, but you have to run for your life the hole time. It really depends on the situation and the teams.
Its more that they get that kind of damage and utility while risking nothing that makes them OP.
Also, this wasn't a particularly great game. Spartan openly said he doesn't like cv's and isn't very good in them.
@@177SCmaro he should learn from Peek
12:31 your planes didnt got shot down by the montana but by the CV fighter squad.
Would be nice if WoWs would calculate spotting damage like it does on PC
You know how I know the world is going to hell? Spartan doing a review on aircraft carrier!
Funny coincidence. I just got this thing yesterday. I’m not great with CV’s. The higher tier ones definitely have a learning curve.
Now I can't wait to get this one myself. One more Project segment to go.
About the only difference with your Commander build and mine is that I run Geisler for secondary reload, and Tanaka for Hull Crusher for that extra torpedo damage. Nothing quite like having American aerial torps that hit like Japanese aerial torps, right?
Whoa! I thought Spartan swore to never again jump into a Carrier.
Hanging around at the back of the map in a Carrier just to launch planes isn't my idea of fun. That tactic reminds me of the British Tank Destroyer The Death Star.
It would be irresponsible and extremely neglectful as a cc to ignore carriers.
Carriers play is awesome fun and a brilliant skill based addition to the game.
They are very difficult to play and require intelligence and skill.( high tiers )
How often do you see them in top place on the board ? You don't .
Try being competitive in a cv ......... nope not easy at all.
Many people enjoy them every day and serve their team in many ways to spot the enemy dd and to render assistance and help them secure their win.
They are here to stay. 😊
@@peterjoyce4223 facts
@@iybizuku1366 Yep that's a fact 🛥🛩🛥🛩🛩CV=Fun=Fact 🥳
@@peterjoyce4223 also spartan was surprised that all 4 torps was a total of 20k dmg. (Potential dmg)
That's nothing, one shimakaze torp or top tier IJN DD can do that amount with only one mind you. And those HE bombers are like the British BBs shooting HE.
@@iybizuku1366 Yes i agree Cv is not overpowered in anyway ( higher tiers ) and has become the scapegoat for overpowered DD etc.
I love playing carriers but I hate the usual builds. I mainly build into anti air and I push up with my team to destroy the enemy plains
Space Fishy is a must for carriers
I hope eventually we get a British legendary grade carrier, maybe audacious or Malta, tho Tbf I see audacious before ng a tech tree shop if they continue that
CV's are late game ships. First 5 min spot the enemy team and spot/attack dds
I visited the Midway in San Diego. Did full tour
awesome!
Fun facted Midway missed ww2 by a few days
Legends players: "It's so stupid how players just ball up. We need something to tell players about the strategy of crossfires"
Wargaming: "Alright. Here's Will to Rebuild and Carriers. Have fun"
🤣
Lol 😆
One way to keep players from balling up, would be to have something that forces them (barrier, divide, etc), to stay on their sides for lioe 4 or 5 mins. Then, the "something" would disappear and they could go anywhere they wanted. This would solve so much to include positions being overloading early game.
@@believeinahero6655 you can’t do that, it’s down to to person how he/she wants to play, you can’t force people to take a direction/route they don’t want to go, it’s a war strategy game so you use what strategy you want, if they added that to the game I wouldn’t play
Screw carriers, spartan you think you have bad luck. The other day I take out my new Mexico, first game of the day just trying to warm up. The carrier is the Ark Royal. Of course he chooses to attack me, hits me with one drop, 15 k gone and 2 fires. I then proceed to DC. He flies back around and TRIPLE FIRES ME!!! Taking 25k and then, he comes back with torpes and kills me... safe to say I threw my controller and stopped playing the game 😂😂😂
Ark royal is a t7+ at t5 its massively op. It lands 100% of bombs on target and the bombs hit hard.
Found it. Plus other videos with tips from other players. Thanks! 😊
It good to see your getting success I remember when I first met you and subscribed to you when I played on the phone lol
Spartan can you do a Meet the Kaga?
Carriers are not OP, they are lore accurate (Trust)
Hunt down you enemy carrier first.😊❤
True, Spartan I'm still waiting on subs bro, we're they ? Is there going to be a release date on those anytime soon?
Sub won't happen for a very very long time if at all on consoles
That sucks bro
Sorry that response isn’t entirely true. Remember back during August they were saying that they were changing coastlines on maps. That was the signal that they are and have been altering maps to accommodate submarines. According to some of the communities in Europe, these guys have been uncanny on predicting legends additions with a month or two error, some expect subs by late summer.. I personally have no strong feelings about this.
@@toddkollar4166 I forgot about that man , I'm just looking forward to a new change in the game. Thanks for that update .
They'll come right after training rooms...never...
For the love of god, please use the engine cool down consumable.
Finally got Midway! Nice
Hey did you hear about NERF for Azuma range main gun? Cut 0.8 km
Dannggg I wish I hadn’t missed out on buying the midway.
You didnt predrop enough and flew into the fighters
i love your channel. Its my main go to for learning this game. i must ask and i hope you can tell me, How did you get all of those legendary ships?!?! thats amazing!!!!! I just dont get how its done other than playing for 22 years. Anyway, thankyou for the content.
Takes a long time to grind the bureau for sure but having all the ships and commanders to speed up the bureau helps
Also log in every day to keep progress going and do your missions in AI because it makes them super easy to get the wins you need
Love the content! kepp it up. Love the stream :)
Glad you enjoy it!
Excellent video! Wonder if you can do a review of the Graf Zeppelin and or Hakuryu?
When will they remove the ships from the Store? A month? 2 months?
Spartan, you been watching my how to videos on playing this game I see.
Love CV's. Strongest ships ingame
What a piece of c..p carrier. I just had a game where all 3 of my first attacks where shredded by aa before i could drop bombs or torpedos. I'm back to Saipan and Kaga
i love playing carriers
wait spartan… how did you post this if you’re streaming????
because my videos are posted the night before and set on a timer for release
Im new , how do u activate autopilot in carriers ??
Open the big map with select button and then move cursor to a square on the map you want to move to and hold x button on xbox or square on ps.
Welcome to the game and to the channel. Hope you enjoy
I agree Spartan carriers are not for me either great video though as always keep it going ma dude
Hey can you make a detailed video about how to run cruisers and destroyers please 🚢
How is economy on this Thing without Premium?
My first round in midway: 266k dmg + kraken
Yo you got the screenshots?
@@DemoDashImpact275?
@@Kev1309x if you have 266 you have the Record for Midway
@@DemoDashImpact275 oh okay. I hear about the record is 268k
haku has fast planes alot of planes best torps for a cv and ap dive bombers dont know if it will change for console version
which low tier american carrier line is the best?
probably German
@@SpartanElite43 I'm not very good with German carriers
How to unlock Midway ? I couldn't find it in burreau event in store unavailable, really wonder how to unlock it
Bureau project
@@SpartanElite43 only Saipan and kaga
Spartan you are able to permanently camo the Midway. You only need 12 of the same paint to permanently camo a ship. Lol
Of the lower tier paints you need 24
@@SpartanElite43 ah. Ok.
Spartan midway is like saipan, HE is nice but the torpedoes is where is at, i got raizo tanaka and the other pan asian commander that boost torp dmg, and oh man my torps are dealing 8k+ a hit, and oh man, i love farming gks and yammies with those 4 torps per drop
Thanks for some Cv content 😋 tasty !!!
I agree...CV is a bit shit. But in a div with a good fly boi is an easy win.
I only play cv in div.
woly F$ck was not expecting the meet the soon
A stream this morning and a vid!
Love the vid all ways have good content.
Appreciate it!
i bought you bismarck mug love it
Legend! Awesome glad you're enjoying it
Midway was the last Essex carrier to finally be retired. She stayed in service until 1992.
Midway is not an Essex class shes a Midway Class
Spartan stick to Montana videos or just any video without carrier play lol
I want the midway only for the historical factor but I'm not spending 30mil so its not gonna be soon
Yeah CV are not my thing, I’ve tried to play. But to me it’s. Bunch of flying and a couple of seconds of you putting something on target.
Use fish face and Tanaka if ya wana blap with torps
Hello there is a Legend ship spartan hello from Spain
Hello from Ohio!
Waaaaaiiiiittt a second! Spartan plays a carrier?!?!? Did you hit your head? 😂😂Or is this is end of days stuff, playing carriers, fire & brimstone, cats and dogs living together......what next??
mabey 1 submarine each per match could counteract carriers
Practice Spartan, practice. Platoon with a Japanese destroyer, send the DD out on a flank run as a decoy then kill the attackers of the destroyer.
I have the MIDWAY Im just figuring how to play it
WTR MUST GOOOOOOO
You really don't know how to play carriers, do you? You, sir, are an honest man.
I truly don't and I don't enjoy playing them so I don't intend to learn.
Carriers are why i now use defensive aa fire on cruisers they are so damn annoying
Love these.
why does it have such low planes on the deck compared to hakyuru
Because it does so much more damage per run & it's planes have more HP. Hakyuru's planes blow up when you look at them funny.
Soon I'm also finished.
Y'all are going to probably hate me for this but I main aircraft carriers and I'm currently trying to get the midway because my dad served on that ship he was in operation desert shield, desert storm, and desert victory I'm on segment 8 and I'm really trying to get the midway it's my favorite ship
No one hates you... lol
@@SpartanElite43 LoL thanks I just love it that the same frickin ship my dad served on is in the game as soon as I saw the ship for 30 mil I started grinding credits desperately to get it
CVs and SUBs are the darlings of WG, what u can do?
There's carriers in this game?! hahah JK
I don't like carriers too tbh...and Spartan me and xarkun met last night!
Big fan as usual Spartan but I think you sour grapes on Midway is misguided. A 20,000 damage for a bomb run being too much? Come on a Conquer can beat that easy and hit it more often. So can most of the other legendary BBS. You can get get nicked by a stray torp and almost get that done to you. Carriers are a all or nothing situation. You get fairly good offense, the only one in the game that can be stopped after launch by the way. Your planes being shot down nullifies the run. But you have almost no reliable defenses for anything not plane based. As for this games version of Midway. She is woefully lacking. Bombs? Tier 7 actually do more damage. Torpedo strikes? Saipans is actually better. The ace in the hole for top end carriers on PC is attack aircraft. We do not get them. Now let talk about planes. Despite the description saying she had the largest deck and capacity Midway plane regen is the slowest in the game and she has less on deck than I think even tier 5.Keeping in mind this add that just a about everything she will come across has god tier AA. If you are not constantly changing out wounded planes you can get deplaned really easy. Hakryu isn’t in a much better situation she can make new plane fast as hell absolutely but the plane are made of tissue paper and not fast enough to avoid being in the large AA bubbles to long. All in all the legendary carriers are big dogs. But these bogs are flabby and missing most of their teeth.
The difference is that all those ships have to put themselves in danger to get attacks off
@@SpartanElite43 and they can easily defend themselves. You know the long range sniper players in FPS games same deal as carriers. Anyone gets close to a carrier what the odds it will survive? In hands of a decent player? zero. Well I guess carriers are just going to be the Brussels sprouts of this game some people love the some are revolted. Either way variety is the spice of life. I’m still going to play the game and watch your stuff. See ya on the seas Spartan
Good comment, playing a CV well is not easy and the Legendary Carriers are unimpressive. The only OP CV is Ark Royal and it’s going to be nerfed because of player base whinging.
@@ShepherdRAR ark royal is more powerful than any t7 at the moment, its nasty. I'd rather have a saipan/kaga against me in t5/6than ark.
@@toddkollar4166 shimakaze can do like like 20k each torp. So yea 20k from the Midway 4 torps is no big surprise
my favorrite
Sabaton midway INTE NSIFIES
Cvs shine at the end of the match sadly and low tier dd bum rushers can be a pain as with high tier if cvs are stupid so are subs and over pens on broadsides etc whats next factory duds? lol. The lag rockets suck when getting bum rushed also.
Nobody is playing legendary tier..cost is too high.
I just got lex
Go for the russians, they are most fun to play in my opinion.. just bought the podeba yesterday..
Midway also just get crapped on with her planes cause they are just so freaking weak and made out of paper
Hi spartan
Hi
Just like a destroyer the damage will come. Its unfortunate your video doesnt do justice of the effort it takes to get to a top tier carrier.
Hi
hi
One of the best naval history carrier but in the wrong game 😬
Carriers are brilliant, but there is two many cry babys out there who hate carriers and wow have messed Up carriers now, but there is also too many low t players playing high lvl and Only wanting to kill carriers. It's stupid
The Japan's carrier is trash... just my FYI.. i got it and I'm fairly good with CVs except that one.
🇺🇸🇩🇪👌
It hurts so much to watch an evidently inexperienced carrier player play a TOP TIER carrier. I love your videos but im sorry no offense. Should not be able to play tgis without experience!
The complete opposite, moderen warships cv is wayyy op, this game cv weak lol.
In my opinion submarines should be in instead of carriers
Dang spartan you suck in carriers! No plane shield use. Getting wrecked by fighter planes and one dd on the other team that u didn’t spot. U just got lucky the other team was dumb.
I agree with you, Carriers shouldn't be in this game.
Man all that complaining jeeze give me a break
if u not enjoy it if its not ur Playstyle .... why u even showthem?
first
noice
I hate carriers...
Wait that’s not a spartan helmet 😂 it’s on all my ships. Absolute fav. Wth even is it 😂
Its an Old Roman Helmet
@@SpartanElite43 thanks spartan, appreciate the response.