I’d find it hilarious if Adult Geto summoned Toji’s cursed spirit and started to mock him, and then the curse just walks back to Toji and climbs on his shoulder 😂
@@justanotaku7307that cursed spirit would last maybe another 10 seconds even with full power lol. toji didnt even have his full arsenal when he beat the crap out of him XD
sure, except, you know, Kenjaku has the experience of a 1000 years while geto has what, 30? Also Kenjaku has a gravity cursed technique and has an extremely high battle iq, again due to his 1000 years of jujutsu know-how
@@Black_Dragon_Official_Channel I understand what you mean but I wouldn't say everything Kenjaku could do (except gravity and DE) Geto could do. But yeah, Geto could probably achieve very similar things to Kenjaku. Sorry if I sounded annoying in my initial comment.
@@Black_Dragon_Official_Channel honestly, like many say, the only reason Geto did not have a domain expansion was probably because Gege hadn't thought about it at the point of making JJK0. Add a domain expansion to adult Geto and he is a new level of badass.
The one thing i think you didn't give enough thought to is Geto personal strength. He went up against Yuta and Queen of Curses Rika at the sametime with Playful Cloud. I believe it is very likely the Rika was even more powerful in JJK0. Being able to keep up and contend with them physically is a huge feat. Its unlikely that Adult Geto couldn't contend with Toji at close range. Toji 's invisible nature would likely mean he still has a edge here but Geto is no scrub with the hands. I think it comes down to RCT. If Geto has it, its a game changer.
He almost definitely can't though. Otherwise he would have just healed himself when Rika blew his arm off. Also, Toji has the Soulsplitter, which outright damages the soul. We can't even know for sure if RCT can be used to heal damage done to the soul. Mahito implies that it could at one point (or at least that Sukuna was skilled enough to do it). But then Shoko apparently couldn't use it to heal Todo or Nobara despite it being her specialty. In either case, I don't think RCT is making the difference even if he could use it.
@@calebkahrs2711 I see that point but I think he was trying to get out of there first and foremost because the enemy was still right there and he knew he had a specific window of timeti get this done anyway, so escape first, heal second. But it's also very possible he just doesn't have it. I'm not sure. My point being if Geto can heal from non major wounds quickly and Toji can't, that's a big extra dimension to the fight. Also Geto has Tojis arsenal(minus Chain and spear) in this hypothetical, meaning he should have Playful Cloud and Soul Splitter to block with.
Even with RCT i don't think it's gonna make a difference Geto is not gojo or sukuna that he can spam RCT...infact not even gojo and sukuna can spam RCT all the time.... there's noo way for geto to win against toji....just not his matchup
@@MindlessMenace the degree of RCT is just too different...... regrowing limbs is ofcourse more demanding than passively using RCT....stop being stupid
Bro Geto has too many curses for Toji to survive. Jjk has proven time over time that Jumping trumps all. Toji might get through 6000 curses but he still has to deal with Geto immediately after.. and if Toji is exhausted it’s game over
The thing is we never see toji or maki have any stamina problems. A much weaker maki decimated the zen'in clan and she didn't seem to have any stamina problems, and toji decimated a sg curse relatively easy, I don't think a bunch of non sg curses can tire him out. Yes 6,000 is a lot, but how can they get close if he's just swinging the inverted spear of heaven all around on the chain of a thousand miles? And if geto did that he'd have none to use for uzumaki.
@@sinlesspharo Well, their are still humans physically. They need to drink water, eat sleep. They both can fight for hours definitely, maybe even 24 hours. But that doesn't mean they're stamina is limitless or close to it.
@user-ff6dl9zr7u they have self healing and you calling them humans lmao, it is stated that if jogo took those hit hanimi took from yuji and todo they would die, so now imagine what a todo with playful cloud would do, literally he would one shot any curse thrown at him
The thing is, like Ronin said, Toji doesn't need to fight these curses. He can use them as a smoke bomb to sneak behind Geto and I'm assuming they'd be fighting in the city, which is where most jjk fights happen, so the space would be limited for Geto to unleash so many curses in the first place.
@@dontbe3greedy608But then thr problem becomes finding a window to actually chase Geto down if he is absolutely swamped by curses. Toji's level of physicality can't keep hordes of curses at bay while at the same time hunting Geto down. He can only use them as a smokescreen to hide behind if he's not actually occupied with them in the first place, which is highly unlikely.
The only problem I have with both geto and toji is lack of feats. Geto has a special grade but we don’t know what she does. In toji case we don’t know he full arsenal of like 6 weapons he probably has more. I wish we got to see more of them
Toji has more feats due to the fact you can use Maki feats for him since they're equal. Yeah, we don't know what the special grade can do (it's based off a fox/kitsune shapeshifting woman who caused war with her influence) but he could use maximum uzumaki and an uzumaki full of special grade super condensed cursed energy would definitely leave a mark on Toji.
@marcioamaral7511 Geto can only absorb curses outright if they are 2 grades weaker than him. Anything stronger than that he has to fight and weaken first. Dagon was special-grade, so he'd have to fight him. And since Dagon had a domain and Geto had neither a domain nor an anti-domain technique, he'd likely lose to Dagon even though he's technically stronger.
@@calebkahrs2711 you're talking about a teenage inexperienced geto though. Even kenjaku says geto would of won the fight if he didn't summon all his cursed monsters on the city... He is way way stronger than what he was before against toji. The author just failed to utilize his skillset
To say Toji has to run out of stamina eventually when weve NEVER seen Maki or Toji ever come CLOSE to running out of stamina EVER is just not probable. Maki killed the entire Zennin clan and beat Naoya and still had 0 stamina issues while being severely weaker than her peak toji form and is implied to have just continued going around taking out curses
@@OmenKito Theyre physically blessed but I think those with energy can last as long if not a little more, not all people mind you but being a special grade would definitely allow Geto to have as much stamina.
What's terrifying is that Getos ability, in a way, is a roided version of the 10 shadows technique. Yes he lacks the guaranteed versatility that the 10 shadows has. No, he doesn't have Mahoraga. No he can't fuse spirits in the same vein that the 10 shadows technique can. However, his strength and versatility ultimately comes down to what spirits he is able to tame and utilize in combination with one another. Imagine he got his hands on Rika for example. I mean the sky is the limit with an ability like his because it ultimately is far less restrictive. He can summon a bunch of special grade curses and overwhelm you potentially. Not to mention I'd imagine his cursed technique efficiency must be absurd since his cursed technique is simply reliant on taming spirits. Once that is done I can't imagine it takes a ton of cursed energy to summon them. The hard work was already done. It seems kinda like a binding vow in a way but now I'm stretching.
Toji didn’t just negate getos cursed spirits domain just bc he existed, toji says the domain only takes effect if you answer the question with yes or no, that’s an intelligence feat
Toji is a beast physically which everyone knows but an adult Geto can handle a rika and yuta 2v1 while not struggling all to much close quarters and he even came into the fight without any intent to actually kill yuta just steal rika, so geto could definately run it with toji when it comes to hands especially with playful cloud.
True, but let's not pretend like he is as good as kenjaku when using the CT. He didnt even know amplifying the curse, taking ct from curse stored in uzumaki, or a domain. He was a good curse user overall but didnt exceed in a single category
I think geto has the versatility to overwhelm and defeat Toji. If he was able to catch Toji off gaurd when he was a teen and almost absorbed his inventory curse. He can do that more efficiently as an adult. There's no solid proof that the zenin clan is less than 6000 (Compared to Geto's arsenal), but it didn't seem that they're past 1000, The other point is that the curses work for geto, they'll be able to fight in sync much better. This indicates that they'd be a much harder fight for toji than the Zenin clan. The uzumaki would kill toji. All Geto need is to distract him with a domain expansion or a simple domain to land the hit. Also, I think we're underestimating Geto's physical capabilities here. If he can take on two special grade sorcerer level characters at once (Yuta, Rika), outpace Yuki, easily dodge Peircing blood. then he could tag with toji imo. It's not Ideal for sure, and he'd probably lose if the CQC dragged out. But he could use his physical abilities to pressure toji in addition to his curses.
Not bad points. Couple counterpoints: 1) It's highly unlikely that adult Geto had a domain expansion. If ever there was a time to use it, it was his fight against Yuta. Even if we are assuming he has one though, Toji is still immune to a domain's sure hit. Geto would still benefit from the general buffs you get from the domain of course, but it still goes from being a trump card to a very expensive buff. Also, with the inverted spear, Toji could instantly collapse the domain's barrier, at which point Geto is left without his cursed technique because he can't use RCT to heal it back. 2) Maximum Uzumaki could kill Toji, but there's no way Toji would get hit by it. It has a several second charge up time, at which point Toji would just blitz him or just move around fast enough that Geto could aim it at him.
@@calebkahrs2711 Maximum Uzumaki is arguably as fast as Hollow Purple and Toji didn't dodge that. Uzumaki is also super condensed cursed energy so i'd imagine it could destroy an entire area, meaning it'd still hit toji even if it didn't hit him directly You also forget Geto can make mini uzumakis in his hands for close combat
@shofuyuniceguy8672 True, but Toji outright says he wasn't able to dodge purple because he ignored his survival instincts and tried to go for a killing blow instead. And he only did that because Gojo was the epitome of what he hated about jujutsu society. He wouldn't make the same mistake against Geto. Also, Kenjaku is able to make mini-Uzumakis, not Geto. They might be in the same body using the same ability, but Kenjaku is leagues beyond Geto in terms of skill with and his understanding of curse manipulation and cursed energy in general. We can't assume that Geto could manage it. Much like a domain expansion, if ever there was a time he should have used one, it was when he was fighting Yuta. That he doesn't implies that he couldn't.
@@calebkahrs2711 Why wouldn't geto be able to? It's literally just a smaller version of Uzumaki lmfao. That's why Im going as far as to say he could. You keep saying "use this against yuta use that against yuta" Suguru during the fight was completely toying with yuta to see more of rika's power, thats why hes talking so much smack and not using his strongest moves. then by the time rika awakened he just used everything he had. so yes, i will assume geto can make mini uzumakis since its literally just shrinking down the technique. btw, toji was not expecting that hollow purple, thats why he got hit. he didnt know it was a thing so it was too late to dodge it
The most underrated thing about Toji imo is his intelligence and knowledge of Curses, Cursed Techniques, and Jujutsu as a whole. Coming from the Zenin Clan, he had access to centuries of information, and we saw him put this info to use in Hidden Inventory. He knew exactly how to deal with Gojo, He figured out the non-aggression pact from Geto's Special Grade curse in an instant, and he knew what he could and could not do about Geto himself when they fought.
@gorb688 my dude, that information is exactly why he knew about the Limitless Technique -Gojo even says that. Toji knew all about Limitless because the Zenin Clan had information about it. So how do you think he had access to that information? Because The Zenin Clan only exists on Toji's whim. Yes, they hated Toji. But he was still a tool that they used. To them, he was a grunt, a footsoldier, and a slave. But that doesn't mean that they never gave him anything.
Geto being able to handle rika at the height of her power im pretty sure puts him at least at the ball park of what toji is physically. I mean a rika that is basically "a shadow of her former self" was able to completely immobilize post shibuya yuji and bat around reincarnated sorcerers from the hein era like they were baseballs so geto fighting that rika and a powered up yuta should speak pretty highly of his physical abilities since playful clouds power relies on the persons own strength. That along with the insane amount of cursed spirits which were able to threaten all of jujutsu society and its extended branches which were made up of a multitude of grade 1-2 sorcerers like nanami, todo and mei mei im pretty sure geto low difs him. I dont see alot of people really bring up that feat of him fighting everyone _and_ rika and yuta often which is weird. Seriously the disrespect towards geto is getting out of hand these days.
@@Retrousopp Ngl I don’t see how they are glazing everything they said makes sense, until gojo got HP toji was confident he still had a decent chance at beating him even knowing he had RCT now and the only reason gojo was able to keep track of toji cause of awakening and 6 eyes increasing perception. Unless you believe adult geto is on the same level as awakened gojo toji wins
@@_Gabimaru first answer if you believe Maki or Toji can stand up to Yuta in JJK 0. Tbh I don’t, full powered rika, cursed speech, an overwhelming amount of cursed energy that dwarfs even Gojo’s needed a binding vow beat Geto. Weaker Rika is able to pin Yuji easily. Plus Geto has enough curses to make Toji worry what would happen if they’re all unleashed. Toji has conditions where he wins but if I’m being honest no preparation time Toji isn’t winning
I dont think anything suggest current rika is weaker than jjk 0. Assuming you want to scale Geto = Yuta because even though Yuta was inexperienced Geto at the same time was holding back. I feel like you could get away with Geto being relative to current Yuta. Considering Maki is also somewhat relative to toji, Yuta>Maki and then Geto=>Yuta>Toji/Maki
We know cursed spirits can use and be put under binding vows as well. Whats stopping Geto from pulling the kamikaze trick Mei Mei does with her crows using disposable, low level curses? The 'finger gun' he used against Toji and the swarm of centipedes he sent towards Yuta comes to mind.
Geto wins. The problem is any damage toji takes is gonna build up fast and considering even you brought up the constant pressure geto can deal out he isnt gonna be able to back out and heal. Hover any damage geto takes he can just reinforce he wounds with ce. Once geto weakens him enough he maximum uzamakis and thats the fight.
@@delta2370 gojo had a massive advantage after he learned reverse cursed technique to heal himself but geto cant do that. All toji needs is a strike to the head and geto is a goner. Which shouldn’t be hard with his katana which can negate all durability or the heavenly spear with the chain. But it would def be a difficult fight.
Toji didn't kill teen Geto because of the nature of his technique I highly doubt Toji could defeat 6000 cursed spirits,even with his arsenal because his attacks aren't omnidireccional and some cursed spirits have techniques and innate domains
Toji said himself he didn't want to go through the trouble of cleaning up the mess of curse that would spawn if he killed Geto, it wasn't that he couldn't but more so it's a bother to him. I wouldn't put it pass Toji to handle six thousand curses, and besides if Geto was to unleash all of his curse that just leaves him more vulnerable if Toji actually gets the jump on him.
@@youngsway86966000 lmao y'all are severely overestimating Toji physically. Even granting that he might not run out of gas at that point, the mere fact that he would have zero time or chances to escape let alone focus on finding Geto with so many curses attacking from all sides, and for so long, would wear him down mentally. I don't think you realise just how huge 6000 is of a number, regardless of the grade of the cursed spirits.
@@joelokoye23 im not sure you understand why toji is gifted. Heavenly restricticiton make all his five senses pushed beyond human limits. Getting tired, stamina running out etc wont happen because he has heavenly restriction. A normal jujustu sorcercer would run out of stamina before toji. Why you keep saying wear someone out mentally in a world full of curses i dont know becasue it doesnt apply to toji
@@youngsway8696If u think he couldn't handle it when literally Todo absolutely murked thousands of Cursed spirits as well.... Is an actually joke of a statement. A Lazy person who doesn't actually do shit unless he is getting payed him getting rid of thousands of spirits for hour's is actually dumb knowing tojis character. He can do it but he just don't want to.
Ngl, seeing all the feats Kenjaku did in getos body, I honestly think geto is easily top 5 strongest sorcerers excluding Kenjaku. Gojo did say that his eyes saw Kenjaku in Geto's body as the same or whatever so I think it's fair to assume Kenjaku had the same amount of cursed energy as Geto originally did but maybe like a bit more since Kenjaku did have time to train or whatever...
Those aren't feats for geto. Vol 0 yuta was able to dispatch of geto meanwhile culling games yuta was convinced the only way to defeat kenjaku was to sneak him from behind
The d riding at the end lmao. Geto should be very close to Toji physically at this point and you tnink he's just gonna rip playfull cloud out of his arms like he's Maki? Yeah I feel like you guys were still talking about teen Geto with a few more curses other than the actual adult Geto. Geto will have the advantage long range and mid range as well as be a problem in hand to hand. The soul-split katana is carrying Toji if I'm being honest.
Geto is stated to be on par with Gojo when it comes to physical prowess(no ce) author legit stated this in an interview twice. They’re only “edged” out by maki/toji. Saying toji would “overwhelm” Geto is simply false. On top of that Geto has ce, ct, etc things that toji/maki don’t hv. If his physical prowess isn’t far behind toji/maki as it’s on par with Gojo, then what makes you think toji would “overwhelm” Geto? The glazing is crazy.
@@kurosekai1954kenjaku in Geto’s body. Are you aware in data books they’re stated to have the same stats? Cause kenjaku is legit in Geto’s body 😂😂 the author had to state that kenjakus barrier technique don’t make Geto’s body more powerful, simply another technique.
I mean, his cursed technique is really overpowered and he has a lot of physical strength, like Geto just sniped Panda tens of meters away with a giant spear like it was nothing.
@@spinningpig2347 that and the fact that yuta only won because geto split his forces (as stated by kenny), which meant he wasnt at full power when he fought yuta and rika.
I am obsessed with toji and he is my fav character but I think adult geto has this one As geto has a lot more close combat fighting experience than before and that the last time they fought he was close to taking tojis cursed spirit away from him which was his first encounter He also has tojis cursed inventory spirit with him too
The problem with this analysis is we don't specifically know what even a fraction of his curses can do. Being real, other than his maximum Uzumaki, ya'll were basically talking about 17yo Geto still. Didn't he say like 16 of his curses where special grade? Meaning they all have CT and at least some have domains. No one short of Gojo is soloing 16 Special Grade curses PLUS a Special Grade Sorcerer.
He didn't say he had 16, but that he had 1 of the 16 registered special grade curses, ( Tamamo-no-Mae ), rn we only know of 3 others that are registered
@@origin7754 How tf did he think he'd be a threat to anyone then? He's kinda stupid if he really just had a single SG curse. He was going up against the ENTIRE JJK community including GOJO SATORU. But then again the movie is based on chapters that came out before the worldbuilding and power system got fleshed out. Maybe originally SG curses were meant to be a really big deal and single one was meant to near unstoppable. Because these days even season 1 Yuji, Nobara and Megumi each took down Special Grades.
@@remus4283 His goal at the time was to collect Rika so he wouldn't have to continue collecting so many curses, if he'd succeeded he would've had an infinite amount of CE, and also be able to unconditionally copy & use CT's which would eventually put him on par against someone like Gojo, not to mention the RCT, DE, & other things that come with Rika.
One thing i wish you guys would have brought up is how toji didn’t want to kill geto because he didn’t want to deal with the possibility that all his cursed spirits would be unleashed. And adult geto unleashing that as his death would be insane
I mean toji was not afraid to fight the curses after getos death....it's just that he didn't need to fight any of them as he wasn't being paid for any of that shit
Bro dont want to work overtime with no extra payment. Hell even I would spare geto if the consequences are wasting my energy into something that wont even benefit me a little
geto is relative if not better than yuta (he was clearly holding back) and maki is relative to toji. yuta is very clearly far and above maki. so i really think geto low diffs him. yall are just glazing toji thinking he is top 3 in the verse or smth
@anzai5552 yuta is only a year older now. And it has nothing to do with yuta he was fighting rika. Current rika (without yuta) is stronger than maki so its obvious that geto being equal or better than a stronger version of her makes him stronger than toji
I think adult geto could beat toji but it would be an extreme diff cause teen geto didn’t have many strong curses as we saw he would usually use the same curses but now he has 4000 curses at his disposal and more of them were semi grade 1 and above as stated by kenjsku in shibuya and he had a good amount of special grade curses more than 5 likely as we saw todo fought one and he used one while fighting yuta as well as the ones we’ve seen Kenny use. Toji would give geto a tough time but if he goes all out with his strongest curses and the tooled his most suited with he could win most people can refuse this but forget that geto diving his forces was able to challenge the entire jujutsu sorcery society including all the three big family’s and he has drastically improved in close quarters cause fighting yuta and rika both at once ain’t anything just anyone can do as we saw just yuta and rika fighting uro and ishigori individually gave each of them a tough time and once yuta and rika tag teamed both of them took insane beatings
@@Mavuika_Gyaru geto with playful cloud was blocking both Yuta and Rika. Toji has to chance here he has thousands of cursed he can create Mini Uzumakis to catch Toji off guard he has many special grade cursed that he could use their abilities like the one kenjaku used against yuki There’s just no way for Toji to even be able to get close even if he disappears geto could just surround himself with hundreds of cursed It’s not a close fight by any means Toji was only able to beat gojo because he was extremely weakened ppl like to overrate Toji so much it’s dumb
@@Mavuika_Gyaru The way I see it is Geto is not only a great fighter but has an overwhelming amount of cursed spirits ranging from low to high grade, dozens upon dozens of cursed techniques at his disposal, seemingly has access to nearly all of Toji’s arsenal after having absorbed the worm, access to Uzumaki, can enhance low grade curses to the power of higher grade spirits by using his own energy, and has shown to take on Yuta with a full power Rika at the same time without much effort, only losing because it became a clash of raw CE and Geto didn’t use all of his cursed spirits for Uzumaki. In my opinion Toji coming out on top would really have to come down to Geto making some huge misplays and Toji getting lucky. I’m not saying it’s impossible for him to win, only that it’s doesn’t seem very likely considering all that Geto has at his disposal.
@@om9959what makes you say that? I know he has resistance to curses but saying that over 6,000 cursed spirits are useless against Toji is a BIG exaggeration.
I think if Toji gets the jump on Geto like you guys said at the end, he would kill him for sure and unlike Gojo he wouldn’t get the chance to discover reverse cursed energy if he doesn’t have it, since after losing to Gojo he would make sure to cut his head off.
Although, to be fair, I would get Toji (no Hidden Inventory events) and adult Geto (ditto, no chronology, knowledge etc, and so no Playful Cloud etc too) matched up, meeting for the first time like they did when Geto was a teen. It would be more fair and enjoyable. But the tricky fight of a rematch of theirs works as well.
Who says Geto doesnt have rct?He could have possibly but since Jjk 0 was just a one shot Gege didnt have solidifed his ideas like rct and domain expansions
Thin is, if he had, he could have healed himself after his battle against Yuta. Also he wanted to kill him. He could've popped his Domain up to get the job done
@@user-myraklejnr he thought his maximum technique was enough for yuta which was enough but he should gave used all 6500 cursed spirits. And as for RCT, it could simply take a lot of CE and skill to regenerate your body which is why kenjaku could do it
@@Lucid_JayYuta was probably the only one who had it in jjk 0. Special grade sorcerers r way stronger in jjk 1. Kenjaku for the most part is what Geto would have been. Minus the open DE and extra CTs. All those things he was doing with cursed spirit manipulation, Geto would have been able to do as well.
The issue with that is that maki and toji are blatantly stated to be equals. I believe kenjaku in getos body is simply stronger because he actually had domain expansion the pinnacle of jujutsu sorcery and has many other techniques like yuji's mom gravity technique
@@spookytown7963 There's no reason for you to say kenjaku is more skilled in physical combat, geto's hobby was literally martial arts in the datebook + gege stated he is physically on par with gojo.
I kinda disagree. IMO Geto wins. You guys are severely underestimating the difference in cursed energy output and manipulation special grade sorcerers possess compared to grade 1s. I think physically Geto is inferior to Toji but not by much. At a certain level cursed energy can actually physically keep up with HR otherwise Maki would just overwhelm Sukuna physically which wasn't the case in their fight. I think adult special grade Geto is at a level where he can keep up with HR.
Exactly. That’s one thing I noticed that goes under the radar. That the higher your grade or lvl you are the better CE output and control you have, that translates just to overall better speed, strength, and reflexes Case in point Hakari. Hakari at the very worst is a grade 1 sorcerer without jackpot as was absolutely getting demolished by Kashimo the few seconds he was out of jackpot. But as soon as he went back into jackpot he was matching Kashimo and at time overwhelming him
@@dusk6159 that’s actually crazy. He’s not a special grade just because he has an insane CT. If him beating Yuta AND Rika at the same time wasn’t any indication on how physically capable he is, idk what is
I think Toji’s best shot here is to approach this like a hit or assassination rather than a straight fight: against Gojo, Toji had something to prove by fighting Gojo head-on which he admits is why he lost, but even still, before Gojo awakened, Toji even won in a head-on fight. If he does what he did before for the Amanai hit, like study Geto, send people after him to whittle down his stamina and maybe press his Cursed Spirit supply, sneak attack Geto, use Hit and Run tactics and guerilla warfare, and rely more on agility and maneuverability than clashes and standard combat tactics, with his arsenal and abilities, he actually stands a significant chance of defeating Geto.
Kokushibo vs Geto is a interesting fight as they’re heavily underrated in their series as villains and they are both were good people turned villain through their own choosing
No, Toji *WAS* more powerful than a grade 1 Geto, since then Geto became a special grade and gained a lot of curses, while Toji is faster and physically stronger, Geto would still be more conventionally powerful with his cursed technique versatility. Kenjaku stated that if Geto had all of his curses, he would've won against a full power Rika's maximum power, keep in mind this version of Rika was more complete than the one Yuta currently has.
@@itapproaches3484 She also lacked, she didn't have multiple CT's, & weapons at her disposal, let alone a domain expansion. She had cursed speech, RCT, & unlimited CE, which is good in theory, but had Yuta been given a couple, if not even maybe a year, Geto would've been fodder, he knew to fight Yuta/Rika before they reached their fullest potential.
Geto starts no diffing an arguably stronger Rika and is plotting out how too beat everyone in Japan including gojo. U still don’t think Geto’s faster stronger and more intelligent than Toji?
If you're interested in doing more crossover matchups, I think seeing some free-for-all scenarios could be really interesting. Pitting a bunch of protagonists, antagonists or whatever in a battle royale to see who would most likely come on top.
I think Geto was severely underrated. Even a younger Geto held his own against Toji, an awakened heavenly restricted older fighter with prep time against Geto, multiple special grade cursed tools, the element of surprise, a debatable environmental advantage, and a general stat buff from a binding vow. Adult Geto had thousands of cursed spirits, multiple special grades he could spam, likely several with simple domains that could hinder an opponent, and the physical force required to keep up with top tiers. Geto's existence put Jujutsu Society on edge. He forced the cooperation of Nanami, Maki, Todo, Inumaki, Panda, and many more sorcerers beyond Yuta (even including Gojo to some extent.) Basically, Geto is an unappreciated demon
in zero, yes. yuta's special grade position is predicated on rika. but during the main story, he's a special grade sorceror, with a special grade curse attached to him. and since he freed rika at the end of zero, the rika he has now is basically just a big battery for cursed energy without sentience. in other words, the current rika is basically just a really sophisticated puppet or automaton. that can store energy or tools. plus give yuta access to a surplus of energy for mimicry. basically, it's just the shell she left when she was released. anyway, point being. yuta is special grade on his own merit (well, he created riki.. so technically rika is his own merit but you know what i mean..) after zero.
@@grendelbacani445Geto would’ve won, he used like half his power. Gege stated he would’ve won easily. Geto wasn’t planning to fight against yuta, it was to fight against jjk society. He underestimated yuta.
Geto is stated to be more powerful that jjk 0 yuta, no idea how he scales to current yuta but rikka back then was a stronger copy which yuta heavily relied on. So Geto was essentially fighting a stronger opponent yuta and mainly rikka in jjk0… he was stronger than that yuta and rikka in jjk0
I think adult Geto would win xD Geto is a lot more stronger and faster than he was in high school and he’s pretty smart too…adult Geto’s hands on combat skills are excellent…he can fight armed or unarmed…Toji seems to mostly fight with weapons…I don’t know how good his hands on fighting skills would be if his weapons weren’t accessible to him to use…fighting adult Geto at full power xD wouldn’t be as easy as everyone thinks…he’s a lot more experienced than he was in high school…and everyone forgets that Toji only won against Gojo because Gojo was tired from not resting for like 3 days straight xD and Toji hid from Gojo since he knew Gojo wasn’t able to track him…Geto could easily keep track of Tojo using his curses spirits…Geto would most likely tire out Toji by throwing all his cursed spirits at him to fight first, try to unarm him and then go hand to hand with toji…..I’m pretty sure adult Geto would win
Most of his spirits are low low level and tojis heavenly restriction is stopping him from getting tired and allows him to smack geto around in hand to hand combat also if geto oulls out all his curses, toji could just run away and kill them from afar with his 10,000 mile chain
Geto 100% wins these toji bias are insane and this is coming from a toji fan. Basic shounen story telling makes it quite obvious that both geto and gojo became faaaaar stronger after that encounter. The fact that some ppl think that a geto that was contedning with yuta and rika in cqc while still holding back because he wanted yuta to join at first says enough.
@Malthizarhe wanted to kill yuta but he wanted to see more of rikka powers. He had many chances to kill yuta outright before he made the binding vow. Not only that gege stated that geto would’ve won “easily” if he never divided his forces. Further reinforced by kenjaku. (Which author said he was gonna mention in the manga)
One thing that surprises me about the vs battle jjk community is how much they sleep on Playful Cloud. It's no Soul Splitter, but it is still an absurdly powerful cursed tool that honestly gives Toji no chance to dominate geto physically.
Adult Geto got it. Think about it. Toji not beating 5,000 curses at once. Even with the inverted spear of heaven him swinging a blade against 5,000 creatures while also having to fight a grown Geto there's just no way bruh im sorry.
He's not even fighting that much at the same time. If that happens he hides easily, then that becomes cover for him to destroy Geto. If it's a blast, then Toji definitely is fast enough to dodge it. Toji wins
You should think about it. Toji only have to eat the cursed spirit that is carying with tools and it's over. 5000 curses will no longer be able to see Toji. Toji then speed up to Geto and one shot with bare hands, since it's pretty obvious that Geto even in adult form, still doesn't match Toji in speed, nor strengh.
@@Bandit.Chrollo toji doesnt overwhelm him in physical prowess, so no, hes not oneshotting him. this is backed up by one of the data books. adult gojo and geto are relative in physical prowess and is only edged out by toji, which means toji is just a bit stronger physically, not overwhelmingly.
Sending all his cursed spirits to an assassin with zero ce which you can't sense and whose physical strength is far too much for him, is suicidal he would create his own blind spot.
I don't think Toji ignored the domain of the cursed spirit. It enforces non violence until he answers, he gave the answer and the curse slashed him in his ear, therefore breaking the non violence thing and that seemed to make the scissors visible(in the anime, don't exactly remember the manga). Not a big deal and it's not confirmed, but it might be why Toji called the curse an idiot by attacking first. I just think it makes sense, unless I'm forgetting something.
I think that Geto has enough cursed spirits to just be able to use them just to catch Toji offguard so like send in 100 at a time and just while Toji defends himself from the spirits just attack close range. Even if Geto is weaker than Toji we must keep in mind its jumpjutsu kaisen so the numbers also matter and doing this strategy enough times would get him the W.
Thinking about it toji is a glass cannon, he doesnt gave CE to boost his defense and ofc no RCT to heal anything, when he snuck gojo with regular sword gojo used his CE to make piercing his body not through vital organs do basically nothing to him
Geto going to fold Toji not going to lie. That whole situation with him back there changed him and Gojo. Also you have to bring up the fact that his fight with Yuta, he was holding back. And the mini Uzumaki’s. And it’s not just Geto fighting Toji but bring up the movie, plenty of close ranged mid range and long fights… ALL AT ONCE. Like the argument y’all us make it seem like it’s a 1 on 1 with beastie here and there. Toji boutta get flooded
0:29 there’s a common theme in jjk with children getting their ass beat by adults in jjk and it never ends you made a solid case for why even kid gojo would loose to Goatjo
I think geto wins more matches it's not that much a wash, he has a lot of pressure to put in toji. His uzumaki I think he can pull off what kenjaku does or not use all his curses in one blast. He has hand to hand combat to not immediately die to toji in hand to hand
volume 0 came before the orignal series that is the reason geto does not have many hax abilities . he is also extremely fast the only time he was hit by yuta was when he caught him off guard with a 2.5 times speed and power black flash from yuta. i hope gege could show us what he could have done. if he is any were near kenjaku he wins.
This is such a cool match up that I’ve been thinking about for a long time. I feel this rematch would make Geto lose composure and he might slip up a bit. So I can definitely see him tossing out a few hundred curses once he realizes Toji is there. However Toji will opt for a sneak attack 100%. He’s definitely not gonna just run up on Geto especially knowing what he’s capable of. Geto not being able to detect him would absolutely be his downfall. Toji’s ultimate attack: gun, would prove to be remarkably difficult. I say Toji wins 7/10 times medium difficulty.
He had 7441 cursed spirits between the Uzumaki and the cities he attacked, and the ones in the cities I don't know how many he used against students in their fights on account of the swarms
I'm not sure how Geto being hit by the inverted spear would affect his CT... does he just loose control over his cursed spirits, if so, is it only while he's in contact with the spear or after as well?
Really Geto doesn't have RCT? I always thought he did because of that panel where Inumaki curses him and his head kinda gets crushed, but then he appears undamaged a few moments later. To me I thought that indicated he had RCT. Sidenote, kinda crazy that they only paid 250k for Toji to try and kill Riko, I can really see they didn't have that much faith in him actually getting it done lmao
He could momentarily used cursed energy to surround his ears to avoid major impact. Also the difference in strength between Toge and Geto was significant enough to affect the effects of the Inumaki curse speech technique.
Oh by the way, even if toji did beat geto in any way, if all those curses were unleashed, hes cooked, i don't care what glazing you toji fans are talking about, but is geto releases all his curses as a last ditch effort before he dies, anyone short of a teen awakened gojo is cooked.
I honestly think you guys got it right with picking toji, but I think Geto could win if he were able to keep up with toji somewhat while also combining his curses along with basic physical attacks. Especially if he could keep up with the beast that is rika and to top it all off yuta's incredible skill too, this shows that he's definitly no slouch when it comes to combat plus the other weapons he could recieve would give him a edge over Toji depending on if he had gathered more cursed tools than Toji over his own time wih the inventory worm curae. He'd have to pull this off carefully and really well and honestly I think if Geto did win he would definitly be under some heavy damage but he just might be able to pull it off. Overall great video though and I think 7 times out of 10 Toji would probably win.
considering the fact that adult geto was fending off a jjk 0 yuta (still above average for a sorcerer) as well as a fully manifested cursed spirit rika with little to no difficulty while messing around, i cant really see how toji could match adult geto. its rather unfair, honestly
@@J_red3001 toji is cooking him up, the difference between this yuta and current yuta is huge and maki is relative to him. It’s not a competition really. Toji has precog increased reaction speed, he’s faster than nabito who was the fastest Sorcerer
I expected an actual power scaling video instead of you guys just talking, reason as to why i will do your job. Speed: they are relative to each other with toji being slightly faster. Toji is relative to maki someone who slightly upscaled cursed spirit naoya's speed of Match 3. Getto is equal to kenjaku who inside his body is very causally able to react to a faster than sound piercing blood, match 1.5 attack with getto being about match 3 to be able of performing this feat. Damage: Inverted spear of heaven despawns curses and soul cutting katana ignores durability. Random curses are building level. Getto's attacks with playful cloud are large building level at the bare minimum. Uzumaki is city block level. Durability: Building level maximum, for receiving serious damage from a weakened and mostly cancelled red from gojo. Non factor for ghetto cuz of the soul split katana. Stat wise they are relative reason as to why i would give the victory to getto 8 out of 10 times, simply for having a far better arsenal and having very likely replicated this same scenario in his own mind giving him a much higher knowledge of whom he is fighting.
does the inverted spear of heaven negate all active techniques? the way I've always interpreted it, is it negates the techniques it comes into contact with. Backing this up is that he doesn't use it to stab Geto the first time as a way of ensuring no cursed spirits are about.
Toji would still win (assuming he has prep and a plan like against gojo) adult geto was powerful but is way more powerful after his death at gojos hands. Now he's able to use the curse techniques of curses he holds, he himself is stronger so he can capture stronger curses easier. He'd mid diff toji
Lmao I don't see how Geto has a chance, I think Toji vs Yuki is a much more interesting fight imo, I wonder if her domain would affect buildings as well, idk if we got to see what it was capable off.
alot of people seem to be forgetting that when geto was made, it was in a very early state (aka jjk0) and so many things wasn't developed yet, characters weren't as strong nor had they existed and there wasn't even a good way to solidify geto's SG rank 95% convinced kenjaku was used to shown geto's potential if he was in actual jjk, other 5% is that gege has a thing towards people with the title of "The Strongest" (remember premature death arc, gojo and geto were "the strongest")
not saying you're wrong cuz I agree with the jjk0 being made without the fully developed power system and scaling. But I disagree with kenjaku being what geto could've been. Kenjaku is a thousand year old sorcerer with the highest level of jujutsu in the verse bar sukuna, and has a really high intelligence. Not saying geto if developed better power scale wise wouldn't be a stronger version of himself compared to jjk0, but kenjaku would just be even stronger than that due to the knowledge he has and high iq he has to make a ct better than the original person behind it
I think it would be tougher for Toji to deal with but he’d still stomp, while I have to say Getos hand to hand combat and physical stats as a adult are way higher than his hs counterpart and his CT is way better as well but Toji literally beat him in the past almost effortlessly, he wouldn’t do the same but now I feel like this time Toji would struggle but still win wether it be with his prep or on the fly intelligence
Bro, u know Yuta? Destroys dagon if he got in a fight with him, geto literally fought both yuta and a stronger rika in 0, plus, toji had playful cloud.
@@Geto-1 i see a lot of people trashing Toji for bullying high school geto and gojo but you just brought up geto bullying a high school yuta lol. Also one thing no one takes into account is why are you guys acting like Toji cant just leave? Geto starts going crazy and send out 1000 curse spirits - tojis counter is aight cya man ill come back tomorrow. Repeat and Getos getting hounded jumping at shadows while TOji chillin'
@@gavinma4831 Geto can just do the same thing over and over by calling back the curses. Also, toji isn't the kind to just leave, he does what we call a "Tactical retreat" like when he fled to the forest to release flyheads on gojo.
@@gavinma4831 btw i never brought up geto bullying anyone, what i meant to say which was misinterpreted was that if geto had simply attacked yuta with a solid unshakable desire to kill, he definitely would've succeeded. Imagine yuta trying to fight 150 curses at the same time as well as geto with his playful cloud, yuta just doesn't win in that scenario, sorry.
Toji was thrown in pits of curses as a kid, Geto may have had a lot but the majority were all lower grades, which is essentially a piece of cake for Toji
When they’re thrown at you one after the other though it’s not. We’ve seen a high grade 1 like Choso get destroyed by low grade cursed spirits. Geto has 6.5k. Many of which are grade 1 or higher.
@@dwightsmith3815 We don't know the grades of them, while they're obviously not special grades, they couldn't have been any weaker than the ones Geto was collecting, also Toji isn't gonna sit still and fight thousands of Getos curses at once, he'd probably just dip
Honestly, as much as Toji was impressive, I don’t give him the win here. Geto is implied to be able to attack fast enough that an adult Gojo couldn’t save everyone around him. Toji got speed blitzed by a Gojo 10 years younger. I don’t think Geto is as fast as Gojo, but at the very least he’s a relative threat in speed. Toji beat up some teenagers, and this one’s coming to kick his ass
while Toji is a great fighter, remember that his main profession is still an assassin. In a straight up fight I think Geto could overwhelm him, however unless Toji has a specific reason to stand his ground like in the Gojo rematch, I think it's in character for him to retreat when he realizes he is outmatched, and I don't think Geto could kill him before he manages to escape.
Don’t think toji would even need to escape. Only significant difference between teen and adult geto is he has a lot more curses and an uzumaki. Toji already showed up in front of geto with no intention of fighting since he never planned for geto at all unlike gojo cuz he needed to. So toji vs teen geto was straight up in the moment and still toyed with him. So don’t think the outcome will change imo
Why are we forgetting this man nick name like he can’t just go invisible whenever he wants? This fight isn’t going to take place in an open field and if veto spawns thousands of curses Toji can use them as cover to plan his attack.
I don't think the inverted spear of heaven can cancel cursed spirit manipulation because even toji wasn't sure what would happen if he killed gheto and I don't think he ever tried to use it against him.
No, but it likely could instantly kill or at least dispel any curse that Geto summons. Combine it with the chain like he did against Gojo and it's not likely that any summoned curse is going to be able to threaten Toji physically.
@@calebkahrs2711 the inverted spear of heaven dispels any cursed technique it comes into contact with it doesn’t stop cursed techniques at their source (the sorcerers brain) because even after gojo got hit with it he was still able to use blue. Also the soul splitting blade seems to be more effective against cursed spirits than the inverted spear of heaven because toji switches to that when fighting even weaker cursed spirits.
@@prem2756 Even still it’s never stated or implied that the inverted spear of heaven can stop cursed technique usage all together it simply dispels any cursed technique it comes into contact with and even that seems to have limits considering that toji was only Able to block red and not completely cancel it.
actually non cursed naoya was able to give maki some troubles, if naobito was still alive they could maybe defeat or at least survive maki, then toji probably could not take out the whole zenin clan with that ease
Curse naoya is so so so much faster than naobito ever was and maki still was able to react to it and exorcise it. With or without naobito zenin clan don’t stand a chance against toji and maki
I just realized, Toji is the reason Geto was all about “quantity over quality” because Geto sweeped his big hitters and he didn’t have much to defend himself
Nah the slurs Geto will throw at Toji alone will make this a spectacle. I imagine Geto being especially racist towards Toji as a form of getback
This needs to be pinned LMAOO
Geto has curse speech just for Toji.
@@ExplosiveGrapeTrue💀
Geto would be spamming monkey, and toji would literally be like "yea I am so what"
@Djenkov you must be trolling because I cannot fathom you being this disingenuous unironically
I’d find it hilarious if Adult Geto summoned Toji’s cursed spirit and started to mock him, and then the curse just walks back to Toji and climbs on his shoulder 😂
That would be embarrassing for him and sooo funny
That's that flabbergasted panel moment but on the reverse
That wouldn't happen though
@@marcioamaral7511 yeah, if Toji was alive, it wouldn't follow Geto to begin with.
@@hoangdung7494
I was referring to the case presented by the comment above
Once geto absorbs a cursed spirit it's over
Toji when he can no longer fight highschoolers: 😢
Still soloed a disaster curse in its own domain
@@alihamza14729 A tired, newborn disaster curse that got fucked up by Naobito and whose domain had lost its properties due to Megumi, just sayin
@@justanotaku7307 He would beat others too . No big deal
@@alihamza14729 only with his cursed tools
@@justanotaku7307that cursed spirit would last maybe another 10 seconds even with full power lol. toji didnt even have his full arsenal when he beat the crap out of him XD
People don’t realize akutami is just using kenjaku to show us what geto could’ve been if he wasn’t created before the main series
sure, except, you know, Kenjaku has the experience of a 1000 years while geto has what, 30? Also Kenjaku has a gravity cursed technique and has an extremely high battle iq, again due to his 1000 years of jujutsu know-how
@@harrabi15 you get my point don’t you?
@@Black_Dragon_Official_Channel I understand what you mean but I wouldn't say everything Kenjaku could do (except gravity and DE) Geto could do. But yeah, Geto could probably achieve very similar things to Kenjaku. Sorry if I sounded annoying in my initial comment.
@@harrabi15 no no it’s fine😂
I just wanted to be sure you got my point coz gege knows he did geto dirty for a special grade
@@Black_Dragon_Official_Channel honestly, like many say, the only reason Geto did not have a domain expansion was probably because Gege hadn't thought about it at the point of making JJK0. Add a domain expansion to adult Geto and he is a new level of badass.
The one thing i think you didn't give enough thought to is Geto personal strength. He went up against Yuta and Queen of Curses Rika at the sametime with Playful Cloud. I believe it is very likely the Rika was even more powerful in JJK0. Being able to keep up and contend with them physically is a huge feat. Its unlikely that Adult Geto couldn't contend with Toji at close range. Toji 's invisible nature would likely mean he still has a edge here but Geto is no scrub with the hands. I think it comes down to RCT. If Geto has it, its a game changer.
He almost definitely can't though. Otherwise he would have just healed himself when Rika blew his arm off. Also, Toji has the Soulsplitter, which outright damages the soul. We can't even know for sure if RCT can be used to heal damage done to the soul. Mahito implies that it could at one point (or at least that Sukuna was skilled enough to do it). But then Shoko apparently couldn't use it to heal Todo or Nobara despite it being her specialty. In either case, I don't think RCT is making the difference even if he could use it.
@@calebkahrs2711 I see that point but I think he was trying to get out of there first and foremost because the enemy was still right there and he knew he had a specific window of timeti get this done anyway, so escape first, heal second. But it's also very possible he just doesn't have it. I'm not sure. My point being if Geto can heal from non major wounds quickly and Toji can't, that's a big extra dimension to the fight. Also Geto has Tojis arsenal(minus Chain and spear) in this hypothetical, meaning he should have Playful Cloud and Soul Splitter to block with.
Even with RCT i don't think it's gonna make a difference
Geto is not gojo or sukuna that he can spam RCT...infact not even gojo and sukuna can spam RCT all the time.... there's noo way for geto to win against toji....just not his matchup
@@oreki8707Here y’all go spreading false info. Gojo has been using RCT 24/7 for over 10 years
@@MindlessMenace the degree of RCT is just too different...... regrowing limbs is ofcourse more demanding than passively using RCT....stop being stupid
250k to create the world's strongest sorcerer sounds like a bargain ngl lol
The only bad part of the deal is that Toji didn’t get to enjoy the money and got signed to donut nation 🍩
Thats what the other curse users thought too
@@MZOver frr atleast he could say he beat gojo tho😭
The audience and especially our heroes the sorcerers would agree!
@MZOver nah he became Apple's new icon
Bro Geto has too many curses for Toji to survive. Jjk has proven time over time that Jumping trumps all. Toji might get through 6000 curses but he still has to deal with Geto immediately after.. and if Toji is exhausted it’s game over
The thing is we never see toji or maki have any stamina problems. A much weaker maki decimated the zen'in clan and she didn't seem to have any stamina problems, and toji decimated a sg curse relatively easy, I don't think a bunch of non sg curses can tire him out. Yes 6,000 is a lot, but how can they get close if he's just swinging the inverted spear of heaven all around on the chain of a thousand miles? And if geto did that he'd have none to use for uzumaki.
@@sinlesspharo Well, their are still humans physically. They need to drink water, eat sleep. They both can fight for hours definitely, maybe even 24 hours. But that doesn't mean they're stamina is limitless or close to it.
@user-ff6dl9zr7u they have self healing and you calling them humans lmao, it is stated that if jogo took those hit hanimi took from yuji and todo they would die, so now imagine what a todo with playful cloud would do, literally he would one shot any curse thrown at him
The thing is, like Ronin said, Toji doesn't need to fight these curses. He can use them as a smoke bomb to sneak behind Geto and I'm assuming they'd be fighting in the city, which is where most jjk fights happen, so the space would be limited for Geto to unleash so many curses in the first place.
@@dontbe3greedy608But then thr problem becomes finding a window to actually chase Geto down if he is absolutely swamped by curses. Toji's level of physicality can't keep hordes of curses at bay while at the same time hunting Geto down.
He can only use them as a smokescreen to hide behind if he's not actually occupied with them in the first place, which is highly unlikely.
I just realized Geto had Toji's worm in zero when he got playful cloud. Not sure how I completely missed that.
Geto got Tojis "curse" and Gojo got Tojis "blessing" which is Megumis name meaning
@@darraghmcmullen6205 Why does this actually Work Geto Got The "Curse" While Gojo Got the "Blessing"
@@0ver_T1meam I pretty sure that was the idea of the author
@@darraghmcmullen6205 Man i love JJK
The only problem I have with both geto and toji is lack of feats. Geto has a special grade but we don’t know what she does. In toji case we don’t know he full arsenal of like 6 weapons he probably has more. I wish we got to see more of them
Toji has more feats due to the fact you can use Maki feats for him since they're equal.
Yeah, we don't know what the special grade can do (it's based off a fox/kitsune shapeshifting woman who caused war with her influence) but he could use maximum uzumaki and an uzumaki full of special grade super condensed cursed energy would definitely leave a mark on Toji.
We seen Toji go toe to toe with gojo and waste a special grade disaster curse like he was fodder. That says enough
@@cj5476
Yeah but geto would just absorb dagon though 😂
@marcioamaral7511 Geto can only absorb curses outright if they are 2 grades weaker than him. Anything stronger than that he has to fight and weaken first. Dagon was special-grade, so he'd have to fight him. And since Dagon had a domain and Geto had neither a domain nor an anti-domain technique, he'd likely lose to Dagon even though he's technically stronger.
@@calebkahrs2711 you're talking about a teenage inexperienced geto though. Even kenjaku says geto would of won the fight if he didn't summon all his cursed monsters on the city... He is way way stronger than what he was before against toji. The author just failed to utilize his skillset
To say Toji has to run out of stamina eventually when weve NEVER seen Maki or Toji ever come CLOSE to running out of stamina EVER is just not probable. Maki killed the entire Zennin clan and beat Naoya and still had 0 stamina issues while being severely weaker than her peak toji form and is implied to have just continued going around taking out curses
Just because we've never see them run out of stamina doesn't mean they can't
@@enenra6417 yes but do you understand how long it has to take for that to happen
@@OmenKito it all depends on their opponent is
@@OmenKito Theyre physically blessed but I think those with energy can last as long if not a little more, not all people mind you but being a special grade would definitely allow Geto to have as much stamina.
@@jeypi__ they have a heavenly restriction that makes them physically more able than any other sorcerer so why would geto have more stamina than them?
What's terrifying is that Getos ability, in a way, is a roided version of the 10 shadows technique. Yes he lacks the guaranteed versatility that the 10 shadows has. No, he doesn't have Mahoraga. No he can't fuse spirits in the same vein that the 10 shadows technique can. However, his strength and versatility ultimately comes down to what spirits he is able to tame and utilize in combination with one another. Imagine he got his hands on Rika for example. I mean the sky is the limit with an ability like his because it ultimately is far less restrictive. He can summon a bunch of special grade curses and overwhelm you potentially. Not to mention I'd imagine his cursed technique efficiency must be absurd since his cursed technique is simply reliant on taming spirits. Once that is done I can't imagine it takes a ton of cursed energy to summon them. The hard work was already done. It seems kinda like a binding vow in a way but now I'm stretching.
Toji didn’t just negate getos cursed spirits domain just bc he existed, toji says the domain only takes effect if you answer the question with yes or no, that’s an intelligence feat
I might be misremembering but I think that was a simple domain not a full blown Domain expansion
@@Shaquan-bn9dn it was one of Geto's curse's simple domain, Geto didn't do the simple domain himself.
Imagine if the geto now in the manga could mahito cursed spirit style and pull off a full blown domain expansion ☠️
Toji is a beast physically which everyone knows but an adult Geto can handle a rika and yuta 2v1 while not struggling all to much close quarters and he even came into the fight without any intent to actually kill yuta just steal rika, so geto could definately run it with toji when it comes to hands especially with playful cloud.
What do you mean without any intent to kill? He had to kill yuta to break the link between yuta and rika to get her. So he was trying to kill him
Firstly, geto did not go all out in his uzumaki otherwise the one winning and last standing would have been geto instead of yuta...
@@srg8097he wanted to kill yuta but he was going easy. In fact his uzumaki was around half to 70 percent power. He’s stated by author to win “easily”
True, but let's not pretend like he is as good as kenjaku when using the CT. He didnt even know amplifying the curse, taking ct from curse stored in uzumaki, or a domain. He was a good curse user overall but didnt exceed in a single category
Toji still wins via scaling to 15F sukuna. He would just perception blitz geto and hit him with soul split katana
I think geto has the versatility to overwhelm and defeat Toji.
If he was able to catch Toji off gaurd when he was a teen and almost absorbed his inventory curse. He can do that more efficiently as an adult.
There's no solid proof that the zenin clan is less than 6000 (Compared to Geto's arsenal), but it didn't seem that they're past 1000,
The other point is that the curses work for geto, they'll be able to fight in sync much better. This indicates that they'd be a much harder fight for toji than the Zenin clan.
The uzumaki would kill toji. All Geto need is to distract him with a domain expansion or a simple domain to land the hit.
Also, I think we're underestimating Geto's physical capabilities here. If he can take on two special grade sorcerer level characters at once (Yuta, Rika), outpace Yuki, easily dodge Peircing blood. then he could tag with toji imo. It's not Ideal for sure, and he'd probably lose if the CQC dragged out. But he could use his physical abilities to pressure toji in addition to his curses.
Not bad points. Couple counterpoints:
1) It's highly unlikely that adult Geto had a domain expansion. If ever there was a time to use it, it was his fight against Yuta. Even if we are assuming he has one though, Toji is still immune to a domain's sure hit. Geto would still benefit from the general buffs you get from the domain of course, but it still goes from being a trump card to a very expensive buff. Also, with the inverted spear, Toji could instantly collapse the domain's barrier, at which point Geto is left without his cursed technique because he can't use RCT to heal it back.
2) Maximum Uzumaki could kill Toji, but there's no way Toji would get hit by it. It has a several second charge up time, at which point Toji would just blitz him or just move around fast enough that Geto could aim it at him.
@@calebkahrs2711 Maximum Uzumaki is arguably as fast as Hollow Purple and Toji didn't dodge that. Uzumaki is also super condensed cursed energy so i'd imagine it could destroy an entire area, meaning it'd still hit toji even if it didn't hit him directly
You also forget Geto can make mini uzumakis in his hands for close combat
@shofuyuniceguy8672 True, but Toji outright says he wasn't able to dodge purple because he ignored his survival instincts and tried to go for a killing blow instead. And he only did that because Gojo was the epitome of what he hated about jujutsu society. He wouldn't make the same mistake against Geto.
Also, Kenjaku is able to make mini-Uzumakis, not Geto. They might be in the same body using the same ability, but Kenjaku is leagues beyond Geto in terms of skill with and his understanding of curse manipulation and cursed energy in general. We can't assume that Geto could manage it. Much like a domain expansion, if ever there was a time he should have used one, it was when he was fighting Yuta. That he doesn't implies that he couldn't.
@@calebkahrs2711 Why wouldn't geto be able to? It's literally just a smaller version of Uzumaki lmfao. That's why Im going as far as to say he could.
You keep saying "use this against yuta use that against yuta" Suguru during the fight was completely toying with yuta to see more of rika's power, thats why hes talking so much smack and not using his strongest moves. then by the time rika awakened he just used everything he had.
so yes, i will assume geto can make mini uzumakis since its literally just shrinking down the technique.
btw, toji was not expecting that hollow purple, thats why he got hit. he didnt know it was a thing so it was too late to dodge it
@@calebkahrs2711toji did not say that about hollow purple, he was saying that about running away in general
The most underrated thing about Toji imo is his intelligence and knowledge of Curses, Cursed Techniques, and Jujutsu as a whole. Coming from the Zenin Clan, he had access to centuries of information, and we saw him put this info to use in Hidden Inventory. He knew exactly how to deal with Gojo, He figured out the non-aggression pact from Geto's Special Grade curse in an instant, and he knew what he could and could not do about Geto himself when they fought.
Those were teens. Adult Geto has 13 more years of experience and knowledge. And Geto knew of Rika before anyone told him
@@willisstillhere8846 10 years*
toji wouldn't be able to access the zenin clans information, they hate him and wanted him dead, that point is so bad
@gorb688 my dude, that information is exactly why he knew about the Limitless Technique -Gojo even says that. Toji knew all about Limitless because the Zenin Clan had information about it. So how do you think he had access to that information?
Because The Zenin Clan only exists on Toji's whim.
Yes, they hated Toji. But he was still a tool that they used. To them, he was a grunt, a footsoldier, and a slave. But that doesn't mean that they never gave him anything.
@@Evilman_520 yeah no my mistake was thinking about maki, even so I doubt he would have knowledge on uzumaki and so forth
Geto being able to handle rika at the height of her power im pretty sure puts him at least at the ball park of what toji is physically. I mean a rika that is basically "a shadow of her former self" was able to completely immobilize post shibuya yuji and bat around reincarnated sorcerers from the hein era like they were baseballs so geto fighting that rika and a powered up yuta should speak pretty highly of his physical abilities since playful clouds power relies on the persons own strength. That along with the insane amount of cursed spirits which were able to threaten all of jujutsu society and its extended branches which were made up of a multitude of grade 1-2 sorcerers like nanami, todo and mei mei im pretty sure geto low difs him. I dont see alot of people really bring up that feat of him fighting everyone _and_ rika and yuta often which is weird. Seriously the disrespect towards geto is getting out of hand these days.
Bro they’re Toji glazers I’ve never seen them say Toji loses a versus except Gojo and Sukuna 😭😭😭.
@@Retrousopp Ngl I don’t see how they are glazing everything they said makes sense, until gojo got HP toji was confident he still had a decent chance at beating him even knowing he had RCT now and the only reason gojo was able to keep track of toji cause of awakening and 6 eyes increasing perception. Unless you believe adult geto is on the same level as awakened gojo toji wins
And the fact that geto would’ve won the clash at the end with rika if he didn’t spread his forces throughout Japan
@@_Gabimaru first answer if you believe Maki or Toji can stand up to Yuta in JJK 0. Tbh I don’t, full powered rika, cursed speech, an overwhelming amount of cursed energy that dwarfs even Gojo’s needed a binding vow beat Geto. Weaker Rika is able to pin Yuji easily. Plus Geto has enough curses to make Toji worry what would happen if they’re all unleashed. Toji has conditions where he wins but if I’m being honest no preparation time Toji isn’t winning
I dont think anything suggest current rika is weaker than jjk 0. Assuming you want to scale Geto = Yuta because even though Yuta was inexperienced Geto at the same time was holding back. I feel like you could get away with Geto being relative to current Yuta. Considering Maki is also somewhat relative to toji, Yuta>Maki and then Geto=>Yuta>Toji/Maki
We know cursed spirits can use and be put under binding vows as well. Whats stopping Geto from pulling the kamikaze trick Mei Mei does with her crows using disposable, low level curses?
The 'finger gun' he used against Toji and the swarm of centipedes he sent towards Yuta comes to mind.
Geto wins. The problem is any damage toji takes is gonna build up fast and considering even you brought up the constant pressure geto can deal out he isnt gonna be able to back out and heal. Hover any damage geto takes he can just reinforce he wounds with ce. Once geto weakens him enough he maximum uzamakis and thats the fight.
Wrong
tf you mean wrong, got any counter lol😂😂@@Mavuika_Gyaru
@@delta2370 he has the inverted spear of heaven to block uzumaki's and he's stronger and faster. Geto is getting destroyed
@@delta2370 gojo had a massive advantage after he learned reverse cursed technique to heal himself but geto cant do that. All toji needs is a strike to the head and geto is a goner. Which shouldn’t be hard with his katana which can negate all durability or the heavenly spear with the chain. But it would def be a difficult fight.
@@delta2370also I don’t think geto is fast enough to keep up with toji.
Toji didn't kill teen Geto because of the nature of his technique
I highly doubt Toji could defeat 6000 cursed spirits,even with his arsenal because his attacks aren't omnidireccional and some cursed spirits have techniques and innate domains
Toji said himself he didn't want to go through the trouble of cleaning up the mess of curse that would spawn if he killed Geto, it wasn't that he couldn't but more so it's a bother to him. I wouldn't put it pass Toji to handle six thousand curses, and besides if Geto was to unleash all of his curse that just leaves him more vulnerable if Toji actually gets the jump on him.
@@youngsway86966000 lmao y'all are severely overestimating Toji physically. Even granting that he might not run out of gas at that point, the mere fact that he would have zero time or chances to escape let alone focus on finding Geto with so many curses attacking from all sides, and for so long, would wear him down mentally. I don't think you realise just how huge 6000 is of a number, regardless of the grade of the cursed spirits.
@@joelokoye23 im not sure you understand why toji is gifted. Heavenly restricticiton make all his five senses pushed beyond human limits. Getting tired, stamina running out etc wont happen because he has heavenly restriction. A normal jujustu sorcercer would run out of stamina before toji. Why you keep saying wear someone out mentally in a world full of curses i dont know becasue it doesnt apply to toji
@@joelokoye23toji five sense is sharpened to peak that he can't never get off guard unless it's the attack that overwhelm his reaction
@@youngsway8696If u think he couldn't handle it when literally Todo absolutely murked thousands of Cursed spirits as well.... Is an actually joke of a statement. A Lazy person who doesn't actually do shit unless he is getting payed him getting rid of thousands of spirits for hour's is actually dumb knowing tojis character. He can do it but he just don't want to.
Ngl, seeing all the feats Kenjaku did in getos body, I honestly think geto is easily top 5 strongest sorcerers excluding Kenjaku. Gojo did say that his eyes saw Kenjaku in Geto's body as the same or whatever so I think it's fair to assume Kenjaku had the same amount of cursed energy as Geto originally did but maybe like a bit more since Kenjaku did have time to train or whatever...
So does Geto use all the abilities kenjaku does, or is that all kenjaku?
Geto is def not top 5
@@greggwhite1032 No Kenjaku has all of Geto's abilities (curse manipulation) but Geto doesn't have all of Kenjakus
Those aren't feats for geto. Vol 0 yuta was able to dispatch of geto meanwhile culling games yuta was convinced the only way to defeat kenjaku was to sneak him from behind
@@Burst644 geto split his forces. Kenjaku himself says that’s why yuta won.
The d riding at the end lmao. Geto should be very close to Toji physically at this point and you tnink he's just gonna rip playfull cloud out of his arms like he's Maki? Yeah I feel like you guys were still talking about teen Geto with a few more curses other than the actual adult Geto. Geto will have the advantage long range and mid range as well as be a problem in hand to hand. The soul-split katana is carrying Toji if I'm being honest.
The soul split katana is ALWAYS carrying toji to be honest.
@@Manicboy8 getos curses did too
@KiddArachnid except there's a difference because that's getos cursed technique, while the weapons toji has he literally stole, he didn't make them
Please keep the Geto content coming 🙏🏽
Fax
Geto is stated to be on par with Gojo when it comes to physical prowess(no ce) author legit stated this in an interview twice. They’re only “edged” out by maki/toji. Saying toji would “overwhelm” Geto is simply false. On top of that Geto has ce, ct, etc things that toji/maki don’t hv. If his physical prowess isn’t far behind toji/maki as it’s on par with Gojo, then what makes you think toji would “overwhelm” Geto? The glazing is crazy.
The author said that about kenjaku,not suguru
@@kurosekai1954kenjaku in Geto’s body. Are you aware in data books they’re stated to have the same stats? Cause kenjaku is legit in Geto’s body 😂😂 the author had to state that kenjakus barrier technique don’t make Geto’s body more powerful, simply another technique.
@@kurosekai1954 lol bro same body hello 😂 its getos body lol
@@gamer3d147 fax someone actually understands geto like bro geto smokes toji lol
@@sutzakirezer9639IM SAYING like what r these ppl reading??? 😭
Geto is the most underestimated special grade.
Yuji low diff beats him tbf
@@Chosen_Ash wild take. yuji gets mid diffed
I mean, his cursed technique is really overpowered and he has a lot of physical strength, like Geto just sniped Panda tens of meters away with a giant spear like it was nothing.
@@spinningpig2347 that and the fact that yuta only won because geto split his forces (as stated by kenny), which meant he wasnt at full power when he fought yuta and rika.
@@umeboshi2247 All Geto needed to win was to keep all of his curses and go for the kill against Yuta and not hold back.
I am obsessed with toji and he is my fav character but I think adult geto has this one
As geto has a lot more close combat fighting experience than before and that the last time they fought he was close to taking tojis cursed spirit away from him which was his first encounter
He also has tojis cursed inventory spirit with him too
Geto had the potential to be top 3 in the series probably
definitely kenjaku using geto's CT is a prime example
Kenjaku is literally full potential Geto
@@deeznuts1445 full potential geto would also have rika
@@Cocxy69not what full potential means😂
@@lelouchvibritannia7647 wouldn't until kenjaku proposed he would have had rika too if he made one step different, so it's included
The problem with this analysis is we don't specifically know what even a fraction of his curses can do. Being real, other than his maximum Uzumaki, ya'll were basically talking about 17yo Geto still. Didn't he say like 16 of his curses where special grade? Meaning they all have CT and at least some have domains. No one short of Gojo is soloing 16 Special Grade curses PLUS a Special Grade Sorcerer.
He didn't say he had 16, but that he had 1 of the 16 registered special grade curses, ( Tamamo-no-Mae ), rn we only know of 3 others that are registered
@@origin7754 How tf did he think he'd be a threat to anyone then? He's kinda stupid if he really just had a single SG curse. He was going up against the ENTIRE JJK community including GOJO SATORU.
But then again the movie is based on chapters that came out before the worldbuilding and power system got fleshed out. Maybe originally SG curses were meant to be a really big deal and single one was meant to near unstoppable.
Because these days even season 1 Yuji, Nobara and Megumi each took down Special Grades.
he didnt fight them simultanously you clown
@@remus4283 His goal at the time was to collect Rika so he wouldn't have to continue collecting so many curses, if he'd succeeded he would've had an infinite amount of CE, and also be able to unconditionally copy & use CT's which would eventually put him on par against someone like Gojo, not to mention the RCT, DE, & other things that come with Rika.
@@origin7754he had at least two, those being tamae no mae and the curse todo beat
Love this duo of ronin & NoOp, the best scaling RUclipsrs rn, takes me back to the Swagkage, Clyde, chuck days 😂🤘🏻
the downplay on geto in this vid is crazy
I literally searched this last night and no results and you drop it the next day….this video is from the realm of the gods 😭🔥
I think Geto'll get his getback on Toji honestly
One thing i wish you guys would have brought up is how toji didn’t want to kill geto because he didn’t want to deal with the possibility that all his cursed spirits would be unleashed. And adult geto unleashing that as his death would be insane
I mean toji was not afraid to fight the curses after getos death....it's just that he didn't need to fight any of them as he wasn't being paid for any of that shit
@@oreki8707this shows it was troublesome enough that he didn’t want to do it. And that was only a teen Geto with perhaps around a hundred curses
I mean you can just interpret that in so many ways. The statement is just irrelevant at that point.
@@gamer3d147 it was extra work..... dude...if u think low grade curses could do a thing to toji then the jokes on you I'm afraid
Bro dont want to work overtime with no extra payment. Hell even I would spare geto if the consequences are wasting my energy into something that wont even benefit me a little
geto is relative if not better than yuta (he was clearly holding back) and maki is relative to toji. yuta is very clearly far and above maki. so i really think geto low diffs him. yall are just glazing toji thinking he is top 3 in the verse or smth
Bro this is teen yuta
This yuta literally still a newbie lol
@anzai5552 yuta is only a year older now. And it has nothing to do with yuta he was fighting rika. Current rika (without yuta) is stronger than maki so its obvious that geto being equal or better than a stronger version of her makes him stronger than toji
I think adult geto could beat toji but it would be an extreme diff cause teen geto didn’t have many strong curses as we saw he would usually use the same curses but now he has 4000 curses at his disposal and more of them were semi grade 1 and above as stated by kenjsku in shibuya and he had a good amount of special grade curses more than 5 likely as we saw todo fought one and he used one while fighting yuta as well as the ones we’ve seen Kenny use. Toji would give geto a tough time but if he goes all out with his strongest curses and the tooled his most suited with he could win most people can refuse this but forget that geto diving his forces was able to challenge the entire jujutsu sorcery society including all the three big family’s and he has drastically improved in close quarters cause fighting yuta and rika both at once ain’t anything just anyone can do as we saw just yuta and rika fighting uro and ishigori individually gave each of them a tough time and once yuta and rika tag teamed both of them took insane beatings
Yeah I don’t see Toji winning this one. There’s a chance he could win but I’d put my money on Geto 9 times out of 10.
You say with no reasoning
@@Mavuika_Gyaru geto with playful cloud was blocking both Yuta and Rika. Toji has to chance here he has thousands of cursed he can create Mini Uzumakis to catch Toji off guard he has many special grade cursed that he could use their abilities like the one kenjaku used against yuki There’s just no way for Toji to even be able to get close even if he disappears geto could just surround himself with hundreds of cursed It’s not a close fight by any means
Toji was only able to beat gojo because he was extremely weakened ppl like to overrate Toji so much it’s dumb
@@Mavuika_Gyaru The way I see it is Geto is not only a great fighter but has an overwhelming amount of cursed spirits ranging from low to high grade, dozens upon dozens of cursed techniques at his disposal, seemingly has access to nearly all of Toji’s arsenal after having absorbed the worm, access to Uzumaki, can enhance low grade curses to the power of higher grade spirits by using his own energy, and has shown to take on Yuta with a full power Rika at the same time without much effort, only losing because it became a clash of raw CE and Geto didn’t use all of his cursed spirits for Uzumaki. In my opinion Toji coming out on top would really have to come down to Geto making some huge misplays and Toji getting lucky. I’m not saying it’s impossible for him to win, only that it’s doesn’t seem very likely considering all that Geto has at his disposal.
@DarthMyriad those cursed spirits mostly useless against toji.
@@om9959what makes you say that? I know he has resistance to curses but saying that over 6,000 cursed spirits are useless against Toji is a BIG exaggeration.
I think if Toji gets the jump on Geto like you guys said at the end, he would kill him for sure and unlike Gojo he wouldn’t get the chance to discover reverse cursed energy if he doesn’t have it, since after losing to Gojo he would make sure to cut his head off.
Although, to be fair, I would get Toji (no Hidden Inventory events) and adult Geto (ditto, no chronology, knowledge etc, and so no Playful Cloud etc too) matched up, meeting for the first time like they did when Geto was a teen.
It would be more fair and enjoyable. But the tricky fight of a rematch of theirs works as well.
Who says Geto doesnt have rct?He could have possibly but since Jjk 0 was just a one shot Gege didnt have solidifed his ideas like rct and domain expansions
Yuta used RCT in JJk O.
Thin is, if he had, he could have healed himself after his battle against Yuta. Also he wanted to kill him. He could've popped his Domain up to get the job done
@@user-myraklejnr he thought his maximum technique was enough for yuta which was enough but he should gave used all 6500 cursed spirits. And as for RCT, it could simply take a lot of CE and skill to regenerate your body which is why kenjaku could do it
@@Pqihtyieojn12 geto dosent have a domain and no rct
@@Lucid_JayYuta was probably the only one who had it in jjk 0. Special grade sorcerers r way stronger in jjk 1. Kenjaku for the most part is what Geto would have been. Minus the open DE and extra CTs. All those things he was doing with cursed spirit manipulation, Geto would have been able to do as well.
I think we should be using Kenjaku 's physical feats for Geto just like we use Maki for Toji, I think that'd really increase his chances
The issue with that is that maki and toji are blatantly stated to be equals. I believe kenjaku in getos body is simply stronger because he actually had domain expansion the pinnacle of jujutsu sorcery and has many other techniques like yuji's mom gravity technique
@@l.lawliet2222 yeah that's the reason I called physical feats specifically
@@rajaryan4424 true but kenjaku is way more skilled in fighting, though their stats are perfectly equal yea
@@spookytown7963 agreed
@@spookytown7963
There's no reason for you to say kenjaku is more skilled in physical combat, geto's hobby was literally martial arts in the datebook + gege stated he is physically on par with gojo.
I kinda disagree. IMO Geto wins. You guys are severely underestimating the difference in cursed energy output and manipulation special grade sorcerers possess compared to grade 1s. I think physically Geto is inferior to Toji but not by much. At a certain level cursed energy can actually physically keep up with HR otherwise Maki would just overwhelm Sukuna physically which wasn't the case in their fight. I think adult special grade Geto is at a level where he can keep up with HR.
Exactly. That’s one thing I noticed that goes under the radar. That the higher your grade or lvl you are the better CE output and control you have, that translates just to overall better speed, strength, and reflexes
Case in point Hakari. Hakari at the very worst is a grade 1 sorcerer without jackpot as was absolutely getting demolished by Kashimo the few seconds he was out of jackpot. But as soon as he went back into jackpot he was matching Kashimo and at time overwhelming him
I don't think that Geto would surpass Dagon or Jogo physically, much less Toji and his speed.
@@dusk6159 that’s actually crazy. He’s not a special grade just because he has an insane CT. If him beating Yuta AND Rika at the same time wasn’t any indication on how physically capable he is, idk what is
Geto with half of his arsenal almost beat Yuta and Rika. I'll just leave it at that@@dusk6159
@@dusk6159Geto was throwing hands with Rika. He could definitely handle Jogo and Dagon physically, and with ease at that as well.
I think Toji’s best shot here is to approach this like a hit or assassination rather than a straight fight: against Gojo, Toji had something to prove by fighting Gojo head-on which he admits is why he lost, but even still, before Gojo awakened, Toji even won in a head-on fight. If he does what he did before for the Amanai hit, like study Geto, send people after him to whittle down his stamina and maybe press his Cursed Spirit supply, sneak attack Geto, use Hit and Run tactics and guerilla warfare, and rely more on agility and maneuverability than clashes and standard combat tactics, with his arsenal and abilities, he actually stands a significant chance of defeating Geto.
Loved the video, great conclusion
@@RedFoxGrappler And he IS an assassin. That *is* mostly his thing.
Kokushibo vs Geto is a interesting fight as they’re heavily underrated in their series as villains and they are both were good people turned villain through their own choosing
I’m going with Toji on this one, he is a lot faster, stronger, and has the intelligence to help him with this fight
No, Toji *WAS* more powerful than a grade 1 Geto, since then Geto became a special grade and gained a lot of curses, while Toji is faster and physically stronger, Geto would still be more conventionally powerful with his cursed technique versatility. Kenjaku stated that if Geto had all of his curses, he would've won against a full power Rika's maximum power, keep in mind this version of Rika was more complete than the one Yuta currently has.
@@Gamfluent assuming that’s one the first things geto does and toji isn’t fast enough to dodge it, then yeah I agree
@@itapproaches3484 She also lacked, she didn't have multiple CT's, & weapons at her disposal, let alone a domain expansion. She had cursed speech, RCT, & unlimited CE, which is good in theory, but had Yuta been given a couple, if not even maybe a year, Geto would've been fodder, he knew to fight Yuta/Rika before they reached their fullest potential.
@@itapproaches3484 bruh geto was a special grade when he fought toji
Geto starts no diffing an arguably stronger Rika and is plotting out how too beat everyone in Japan including gojo. U still don’t think Geto’s faster stronger and more intelligent than Toji?
Geto no diffs because hes not a child anymore meaning Toji loses his 'Child Predator' 3x damage buff
If you're interested in doing more crossover matchups, I think seeing some free-for-all scenarios could be really interesting. Pitting a bunch of protagonists, antagonists or whatever in a battle royale to see who would most likely come on top.
I think Geto was severely underrated. Even a younger Geto held his own against Toji, an awakened heavenly restricted older fighter with prep time against Geto, multiple special grade cursed tools, the element of surprise, a debatable environmental advantage, and a general stat buff from a binding vow. Adult Geto had thousands of cursed spirits, multiple special grades he could spam, likely several with simple domains that could hinder an opponent, and the physical force required to keep up with top tiers. Geto's existence put Jujutsu Society on edge. He forced the cooperation of Nanami, Maki, Todo, Inumaki, Panda, and many more sorcerers beyond Yuta (even including Gojo to some extent.) Basically, Geto is an unappreciated demon
in zero, yes. yuta's special grade position is predicated on rika. but during the main story, he's a special grade sorceror, with a special grade curse attached to him. and since he freed rika at the end of zero, the rika he has now is basically just a big battery for cursed energy without sentience. in other words, the current rika is basically just a really sophisticated puppet or automaton. that can store energy or tools. plus give yuta access to a surplus of energy for mimicry. basically, it's just the shell she left when she was released.
anyway, point being. yuta is special grade on his own merit (well, he created riki.. so technically rika is his own merit but you know what i mean..) after zero.
As powerful as toji is imagine fighting someone close to yuta power and getting jumped by SIX THOUSAND curses at the same time
Not really. Geto spent weeks preparing to fight yuta (who has little experience in jujutsu) to steal rika and lost.
And yuta at that point was just a depressed teenager with an unstable mentality. And geto lost big time.
@@grendelbacani445Geto would’ve won, he used like half his power. Gege stated he would’ve won easily. Geto wasn’t planning to fight against yuta, it was to fight against jjk society. He underestimated yuta.
Geto is stated to be more powerful that jjk 0 yuta, no idea how he scales to current yuta but rikka back then was a stronger copy which yuta heavily relied on. So Geto was essentially fighting a stronger opponent yuta and mainly rikka in jjk0… he was stronger than that yuta and rikka in jjk0
toji can defeat the current yuta tho .. current yuta> old yuta
I think adult Geto would win xD Geto is a lot more stronger and faster than he was in high school and he’s pretty smart too…adult Geto’s hands on combat skills are excellent…he can fight armed or unarmed…Toji seems to mostly fight with weapons…I don’t know how good his hands on fighting skills would be if his weapons weren’t accessible to him to use…fighting adult Geto at full power xD wouldn’t be as easy as everyone thinks…he’s a lot more experienced than he was in high school…and everyone forgets that Toji only won against Gojo because Gojo was tired from not resting for like 3 days straight xD and Toji hid from Gojo since he knew Gojo wasn’t able to track him…Geto could easily keep track of Tojo using his curses spirits…Geto would most likely tire out Toji by throwing all his cursed spirits at him to fight first, try to unarm him and then go hand to hand with toji…..I’m pretty sure adult Geto would win
"Go hand to hand with toji" lol
Most of his spirits are low low level and tojis heavenly restriction is stopping him from getting tired and allows him to smack geto around in hand to hand combat also if geto oulls out all his curses, toji could just run away and kill them from afar with his 10,000 mile chain
Geto had so much potential. But gege decided that plot had to go up so *purelove🤓🤓🤓*
Geto 100% wins these toji bias are insane and this is coming from a toji fan. Basic shounen story telling makes it quite obvious that both geto and gojo became faaaaar stronger after that encounter. The fact that some ppl think that a geto that was contedning with yuta and rika in cqc while still holding back because he wanted yuta to join at first says enough.
@Malthizar yeah to toppel the sorcerer world which is mainly because of gojo. How the fuck does this relate to toji u coper
@Malthizarhe wanted to kill yuta but he wanted to see more of rikka powers. He had many chances to kill yuta outright before he made the binding vow. Not only that gege stated that geto would’ve won “easily” if he never divided his forces. Further reinforced by kenjaku. (Which author said he was gonna mention in the manga)
One thing that surprises me about the vs battle jjk community is how much they sleep on Playful Cloud. It's no Soul Splitter, but it is still an absurdly powerful cursed tool that honestly gives Toji no chance to dominate geto physically.
NoOperater is such a Toji meatrider all that for Goku to solo the jjk verse 🥱
Literally any db character (classic or super) can solo jjk verse
I wonder if Geto could put a hole through Toji with Maximum uzumaki. He should also have revenge.
@@Atticus-Catnipp bro even mini uzumaki put hole in yuki stomach maximum uzumaki is too much
Adult Geto got it. Think about it. Toji not beating 5,000 curses at once. Even with the inverted spear of heaven him swinging a blade against 5,000 creatures while also having to fight a grown Geto there's just no way bruh im sorry.
He's not even fighting that much at the same time. If that happens he hides easily, then that becomes cover for him to destroy Geto.
If it's a blast, then Toji definitely is fast enough to dodge it.
Toji wins
You should think about it. Toji only have to eat the cursed spirit that is carying with tools and it's over. 5000 curses will no longer be able to see Toji. Toji then speed up to Geto and one shot with bare hands, since it's pretty obvious that Geto even in adult form, still doesn't match Toji in speed, nor strengh.
@@Bandit.Chrollo toji doesnt overwhelm him in physical prowess, so no, hes not oneshotting him. this is backed up by one of the data books. adult gojo and geto are relative in physical prowess and is only edged out by toji, which means toji is just a bit stronger physically, not overwhelmingly.
Sending all his cursed spirits to an assassin with zero ce which you can't sense and whose physical strength is far too much for him, is suicidal he would create his own blind spot.
@@quincy9908 how do you know he can dodge it?
I don't think Toji ignored the domain of the cursed spirit. It enforces non violence until he answers, he gave the answer and the curse slashed him in his ear, therefore breaking the non violence thing and that seemed to make the scissors visible(in the anime, don't exactly remember the manga). Not a big deal and it's not confirmed, but it might be why Toji called the curse an idiot by attacking first. I just think it makes sense, unless I'm forgetting something.
I think that Geto has enough cursed spirits to just be able to use them just to catch Toji offguard so like send in 100 at a time and just while Toji defends himself from the spirits just attack close range. Even if Geto is weaker than Toji we must keep in mind its jumpjutsu kaisen so the numbers also matter and doing this strategy enough times would get him the W.
Thinking about it toji is a glass cannon, he doesnt gave CE to boost his defense and ofc no RCT to heal anything, when he snuck gojo with regular sword gojo used his CE to make piercing his body not through vital organs do basically nothing to him
Geto going to fold Toji not going to lie. That whole situation with him back there changed him and Gojo. Also you have to bring up the fact that his fight with Yuta, he was holding back. And the mini Uzumaki’s. And it’s not just Geto fighting Toji but bring up the movie, plenty of close ranged mid range and long fights… ALL AT ONCE. Like the argument y’all us make it seem like it’s a 1 on 1 with beastie here and there. Toji boutta get flooded
There is no reason to assume Toji would lose
@@Mavuika_Gyarudelulu
@@Mavuika_Gyaru okay…explain?
Toji scales to a maki that toyed with the fastest sorcerer as a much much faster curse. Like they said it's the same as teen geto but a bit longer
Toji is nice af, but bro is gunna get DROWNED in curses😂
0:29 there’s a common theme in jjk with children getting their ass beat by adults in jjk and it never ends you made a solid case for why even kid gojo would loose to Goatjo
I think geto wins more matches it's not that much a wash, he has a lot of pressure to put in toji. His uzumaki I think he can pull off what kenjaku does or not use all his curses in one blast. He has hand to hand combat to not immediately die to toji in hand to hand
volume 0 came before the orignal series that is the reason geto does not have many hax abilities . he is also extremely fast the only time he was hit by yuta was when he caught him off guard with a 2.5 times speed and power black flash from yuta. i hope gege could show us what he could have done. if he is any were near kenjaku he wins.
This is such a cool match up that I’ve been thinking about for a long time. I feel this rematch would make Geto lose composure and he might slip up a bit. So I can definitely see him tossing out a few hundred curses once he realizes Toji is there. However Toji will opt for a sneak attack 100%. He’s definitely not gonna just run up on Geto especially knowing what he’s capable of. Geto not being able to detect him would absolutely be his downfall. Toji’s ultimate attack: gun, would prove to be remarkably difficult. I say Toji wins 7/10 times medium difficulty.
Could you do Toji Vs Sukuna
16:04 Geto downplay is crazy 😔
Frl they think that toji win when toji was only able to beat a weak special grade and a off guard gojo
@@nub_18weak special grade that was winning against 2 grade 1s and 2 grade 2s
Great video! Loved the Dying Light music
He had 7441 cursed spirits between the Uzumaki and the cities he attacked, and the ones in the cities
I don't know how many he used against students in their fights on account of the swarms
I'm not sure how Geto being hit by the inverted spear would affect his CT... does he just loose control over his cursed spirits, if so, is it only while he's in contact with the spear or after as well?
Inverted Spear against Uzumaki, and other curses techniques, but for geto body is the soul splitter blade
Really Geto doesn't have RCT? I always thought he did because of that panel where Inumaki curses him and his head kinda gets crushed, but then he appears undamaged a few moments later. To me I thought that indicated he had RCT. Sidenote, kinda crazy that they only paid 250k for Toji to try and kill Riko, I can really see they didn't have that much faith in him actually getting it done lmao
To me, it's a stylistic effect like when characters' faces get distorted when they go really fast. But I might be wrong
250k was only the deposit that he received. We don't know the full reward he got
He has no RCT
He has neither RCT nor DE as far as we know.
He could momentarily used cursed energy to surround his ears to avoid major impact. Also the difference in strength between Toge and Geto was significant enough to affect the effects of the Inumaki curse speech technique.
Oh by the way, even if toji did beat geto in any way, if all those curses were unleashed, hes cooked, i don't care what glazing you toji fans are talking about, but is geto releases all his curses as a last ditch effort before he dies, anyone short of a teen awakened gojo is cooked.
Monkey vs Monkey killer.
Outcome sounds pretty obvious.
Uzamaki blitzes and one shots GG.
true asf honestly 😂 the monkey gets packed up!!
I honestly think you guys got it right with picking toji, but I think Geto could win if he were able to keep up with toji somewhat while also combining his curses along with basic physical attacks. Especially if he could keep up with the beast that is rika and to top it all off yuta's incredible skill too, this shows that he's definitly no slouch when it comes to combat plus the other weapons he could recieve would give him a edge over Toji depending on if he had gathered more cursed tools than Toji over his own time wih the inventory worm curae. He'd have to pull this off carefully and really well and honestly I think if Geto did win he would definitly be under some heavy damage but he just might be able to pull it off. Overall great video though and I think 7 times out of 10 Toji would probably win.
The fact the geto is already at this point stronger and can only get better he basically hass unlimited potential and smarts toji just brute strength
Toji is smarter than geto what are you talking about
@@henriquemedranosilva7142that was a 40 yo toji going against teenagers
“Good friend” you mean your twin im convinced you two are related 😂
Not geto comin back to run the ones
considering the fact that adult geto was fending off a jjk 0 yuta (still above average for a sorcerer) as well as a fully manifested cursed spirit rika with little to no difficulty while messing around, i cant really see how toji could match adult geto. its rather unfair, honestly
@@J_red3001 toji is cooking him up, the difference between this yuta and current yuta is huge and maki is relative to him. It’s not a competition really. Toji has precog increased reaction speed, he’s faster than nabito who was the fastest Sorcerer
@@TheMilkMan905 I do not care
@@J_red3001damn 😭
I think Adult getou has this.
I expected an actual power scaling video instead of you guys just talking, reason as to why i will do your job.
Speed: they are relative to each other with toji being slightly faster.
Toji is relative to maki someone who slightly upscaled cursed spirit naoya's speed of Match 3.
Getto is equal to kenjaku who inside his body is very causally able to react to a faster than sound piercing blood, match 1.5 attack with getto being about match 3 to be able of performing this feat.
Damage:
Inverted spear of heaven despawns curses and soul cutting katana ignores durability.
Random curses are building level.
Getto's attacks with playful cloud are large building level at the bare minimum.
Uzumaki is city block level.
Durability:
Building level maximum, for receiving serious damage from a weakened and mostly cancelled red from gojo.
Non factor for ghetto cuz of the soul split katana.
Stat wise they are relative reason as to why i would give the victory to getto 8 out of 10 times, simply for having a far better arsenal and having very likely replicated this same scenario in his own mind giving him a much higher knowledge of whom he is fighting.
Nice 👍
Even 0 adult geto wasn't in his prime..
does the inverted spear of heaven negate all active techniques? the way I've always interpreted it, is it negates the techniques it comes into contact with. Backing this up is that he doesn't use it to stab Geto the first time as a way of ensuring no cursed spirits are about.
Toji would still win (assuming he has prep and a plan like against gojo) adult geto was powerful but is way more powerful after his death at gojos hands. Now he's able to use the curse techniques of curses he holds, he himself is stronger so he can capture stronger curses easier. He'd mid diff toji
That's Kenjaku not Geto😂😂 And dude has more than curse manipulation 😂 he's like 3rd strongest
Can you do adult geto vs Yuki? And Toji vs Yuki?
Lmao I don't see how Geto has a chance, I think Toji vs Yuki is a much more interesting fight imo, I wonder if her domain would affect buildings as well, idk if we got to see what it was capable off.
Toji isn't beating Geto talkless Yuki.
More like how does TOji stand a chance? Against either Yuki or Adult Geto he's just straight up outclassed.
yukis a fuckin mismatch of hell
alot of people seem to be forgetting that when geto was made, it was in a very early state (aka jjk0) and so many things wasn't developed yet, characters weren't as strong nor had they existed and there wasn't even a good way to solidify geto's SG rank
95% convinced kenjaku was used to shown geto's potential if he was in actual jjk, other 5% is that gege has a thing towards people with the title of "The Strongest" (remember premature death arc, gojo and geto were "the strongest")
not saying you're wrong cuz I agree with the jjk0 being made without the fully developed power system and scaling. But I disagree with kenjaku being what geto could've been. Kenjaku is a thousand year old sorcerer with the highest level of jujutsu in the verse bar sukuna, and has a really high intelligence. Not saying geto if developed better power scale wise wouldn't be a stronger version of himself compared to jjk0, but kenjaku would just be even stronger than that due to the knowledge he has and high iq he has to make a ct better than the original person behind it
Kenjaku claps the monkey with Geto's body tho
Kenjaku? Now that could be a definitive scenario with Toji losing vs Geto.
I think it would be tougher for Toji to deal with but he’d still stomp, while I have to say Getos hand to hand combat and physical stats as a adult are way higher than his hs counterpart and his CT is way better as well but Toji literally beat him in the past almost effortlessly, he wouldn’t do the same but now I feel like this time Toji would struggle but still win wether it be with his prep or on the fly intelligence
I say he could win especially with his maximum technique. Uzumaki.
Is it as fast as Purple? Looked kinda dodgeable in the movie.
@@remus4283" dodgable"💀💀💀
@@remus4283 Purple is debatable (I’d argue yes) but it would be WAY faster then red.
@@ExplosiveGrape Then Geto wins. Toji could barely react to red. Anything significantly faster than red is gg Toji.
The only chance Geto has is if he knows the mini Uzumaki. This shit does alot damage
Y’all underrating underrating that Dagon fight. He killed a special grade curse with ease
All special grades kill special grade curses with ease. Even teen Geto is a grade 1 can hv two special grade curses
Bro, u know Yuta? Destroys dagon if he got in a fight with him, geto literally fought both yuta and a stronger rika in 0, plus, toji had playful cloud.
@@Geto-1 i see a lot of people trashing Toji for bullying high school geto and gojo but you just brought up geto bullying a high school yuta lol. Also one thing no one takes into account is why are you guys acting like Toji cant just leave? Geto starts going crazy and send out 1000 curse spirits - tojis counter is aight cya man ill come back tomorrow. Repeat and Getos getting hounded jumping at shadows while TOji chillin'
@@gavinma4831 Geto can just do the same thing over and over by calling back the curses. Also, toji isn't the kind to just leave, he does what we call a "Tactical retreat" like when he fled to the forest to release flyheads on gojo.
@@gavinma4831 btw i never brought up geto bullying anyone, what i meant to say which was misinterpreted was that if geto had simply attacked yuta with a solid unshakable desire to kill, he definitely would've succeeded. Imagine yuta trying to fight 150 curses at the same time as well as geto with his playful cloud, yuta just doesn't win in that scenario, sorry.
Toji gets too much credit for beating up teenagers, Kenjaku even said Geto could have beat Yuta if he had enough curses.
Exactly
Toji was thrown in pits of curses as a kid, Geto may have had a lot but the majority were all lower grades, which is essentially a piece of cake for Toji
the curses in that room weren't that high grade either though
When they’re thrown at you one after the other though it’s not. We’ve seen a high grade 1 like Choso get destroyed by low grade cursed spirits. Geto has 6.5k. Many of which are grade 1 or higher.
@@Kisuke258 You're right, but I gotta spread the Toji propaganda
@@dwightsmith3815 We don't know the grades of them, while they're obviously not special grades, they couldn't have been any weaker than the ones Geto was collecting, also Toji isn't gonna sit still and fight thousands of Getos curses at once, he'd probably just dip
@@origin7754 lmao
Honestly, as much as Toji was impressive, I don’t give him the win here. Geto is implied to be able to attack fast enough that an adult Gojo couldn’t save everyone around him. Toji got speed blitzed by a Gojo 10 years younger. I don’t think Geto is as fast as Gojo, but at the very least he’s a relative threat in speed. Toji beat up some teenagers, and this one’s coming to kick his ass
Before I watch the vid I’ll say I got geto winning this.
while Toji is a great fighter, remember that his main profession is still an assassin. In a straight up fight I think Geto could overwhelm him, however unless Toji has a specific reason to stand his ground like in the Gojo rematch, I think it's in character for him to retreat when he realizes he is outmatched, and I don't think Geto could kill him before he manages to escape.
Don’t think toji would even need to escape. Only significant difference between teen and adult geto is he has a lot more curses and an uzumaki. Toji already showed up in front of geto with no intention of fighting since he never planned for geto at all unlike gojo cuz he needed to. So toji vs teen geto was straight up in the moment and still toyed with him. So don’t think the outcome will change imo
Why are we forgetting this man nick name like he can’t just go invisible whenever he wants? This fight isn’t going to take place in an open field and if veto spawns thousands of curses Toji can use them as cover to plan his attack.
The Special Grade downplaying is real. I thought I should let everyone know that BR thinks Toji would beat Yuki in a fight lmao.
Toji glazers I can’t anymore
@AKA-oi9ng not sure about no-diff but who cares you're spittin
Also how is toji moving past Ganesha if Geto summons it?? Only person to not be effected by it is yuki or Kurosutchi who can just eat toji
The disrespect is palpable
I love the video can you do gojo vs eraserhead I keep seeing that around
I don't think the inverted spear of heaven can cancel cursed spirit manipulation because even toji wasn't sure what would happen if he killed gheto and I don't think he ever tried to use it against him.
No, but it likely could instantly kill or at least dispel any curse that Geto summons. Combine it with the chain like he did against Gojo and it's not likely that any summoned curse is going to be able to threaten Toji physically.
@@calebkahrs2711 the inverted spear of heaven dispels any cursed technique it comes into contact with it doesn’t stop cursed techniques at their source (the sorcerers brain) because even after gojo got hit with it he was still able to use blue. Also the soul splitting blade seems to be more effective against cursed spirits than the inverted spear of heaven because toji switches to that when fighting even weaker cursed spirits.
@Yu-dp5hp Fair point. Even still, the point that Toji is more than equipped to handle any cursed spirit Geto can throw at him.
@@Yu-dp5hpWhat are you talking about? Gojo could only use blue when ISOH was not stabbing him at that particular time. Re-watch the episode
@@prem2756 Even still it’s never stated or implied that the inverted spear of heaven can stop cursed technique usage all together it simply dispels any cursed technique it comes into contact with and even that seems to have limits considering that toji was only Able to block red and not completely cancel it.
actually non cursed naoya was able to give maki some troubles, if naobito was still alive they could maybe defeat or at least survive maki, then toji probably could not take out the whole zenin clan with that ease
Curse naoya is so so so much faster than naobito ever was and maki still was able to react to it and exorcise it. With or without naobito zenin clan don’t stand a chance against toji and maki
I just realized, Toji is the reason Geto was all about “quantity over quality” because Geto sweeped his big hitters and he didn’t have much to defend himself