Bad Movie Fights vs Good Movie Fights, Vol. 3

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  • Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
  • Daredevil on Netflix has some incredible fight scenes but it's not a Movie, will we stick to our rules or will break them? But what about its inspiration, Old Boy and its remake?
    And how do video games like Sifu, League of Legends, etc influence films like The Kingsman, Man of Steel. Spiderman: No Way Home and Arcane?
    And the worst? Steven Segal might be in the video again...maybe?
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  • @MarcusFlemmings
    @MarcusFlemmings  Месяц назад +31

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    • @taylorevans1904
      @taylorevans1904 Месяц назад +1

      fights from the netflix show Happy! are insane. the lights flickering kettle bell fight is incredibly fun lol

    • @yolukeluke
      @yolukeluke Месяц назад

      You should check out the ending sword fight in the movie Rob Roy. It is really good. Not flashy and silly, but realistic with breaks and the fighters getting tired.

    • @MarcusFlemmings
      @MarcusFlemmings  Месяц назад +1

      @@yolukeluke love this shout!!! Shall check it out!

    • @MarcusFlemmings
      @MarcusFlemmings  Месяц назад +1

      @@taylorevans1904 Shall check it out :)

    • @ConnorGleeson
      @ConnorGleeson Месяц назад

      You should also consider checking out the brute fight scene from David Fincher's "The Killer". One of the most brutal movie fights I've ever witnessed.

  • @RahulJaniBEng
    @RahulJaniBEng Месяц назад +534

    "Not many know that this scene is hugely inspired by this..."
    *Proceeds to show the most well known Korean film in the west before Parasite came out*

    • @flyingdics1
      @flyingdics1 Месяц назад +35

      "Most well known Korean film in the west before Parasite came out" might as well be "most well known Cameroonian salsa dancer" for most Americans

    • @shadowmere3587
      @shadowmere3587 28 дней назад +5

      tbh i didnt know

    • @lad4830
      @lad4830 26 дней назад +4

      Never heard of it

    • @Pottasium92
      @Pottasium92 23 дня назад +1

      yeah, this guy is a knock off from cheap websites lmao

    • @Professor-id4jh
      @Professor-id4jh 20 дней назад

      ​@@flyingdics1there is no Salsa dancer from Cameroon

  • @scepteredisle
    @scepteredisle Месяц назад +622

    "it's bad because they seem to be playfighting"
    in a scene where they are supposed to be playfighting

    • @MarcusFlemmings
      @MarcusFlemmings  Месяц назад +86

      Yeah...but why? (and I have seen the movie and still don't get why - it's a scene as bad as catwoman!)

    • @kingman9k
      @kingman9k Месяц назад +152

      @@MarcusFlemmings good question, but one that should be directed at the script rather than the choreography

    • @samuelofcarvalho
      @samuelofcarvalho Месяц назад +65

      ​@@kingman9kCoreography and camera work are still terrible, though. It's not only the script

    • @WhtKnightsNemesis
      @WhtKnightsNemesis Месяц назад +8

      If my sparring partner starts throwing punches, elbows, & kicks at my face w the same intention, effort, & force as garner does, it's no longer "light sparring" & definitely not "play-fighting."

    • @adrianus6928
      @adrianus6928 Месяц назад +7

      Even when I was a kid and saw that fight the first time I was kinda enjoying it but from the middle to the end it felt weird although I couldn't tell exactly why... and in the Catwoman playground-fight scene I already was like "this is embarrasing and dumb".

  • @user-kk4vl1cy9m
    @user-kk4vl1cy9m Месяц назад +414

    Daredevil reminds me of the innocent days when I was filled with hope that Iron Fist would be good.

    • @Jakeyisdead
      @Jakeyisdead Месяц назад +14

      Ah the good old days when we had hope

    • @KJ-ib4mh
      @KJ-ib4mh Месяц назад +7

      Definitely in the top 3 marvel fumbles SMH

    • @CanadianWolverine
      @CanadianWolverine Месяц назад +10

      Iron Fist was good ... in Luke Cage during the Warehouse fight. Scott Buck absolutely trashed Iron Fists own show.

    • @ElyciusM
      @ElyciusM Месяц назад +3

      Compared to some of the marvel films we have now it seems like a masterpiece. Imma be honest, I didn’t really like it, but the after credits scene of the last season made me so hype and then the Netflix shows got cancelled. He was also written amazing in his episode of Luke cage. Shows that Finn jones could definitely play a good iron fist, the writing just kinda sucked

    • @kussd18
      @kussd18 Месяц назад

      it was good for 1 season.

  • @benjeyemanp1742
    @benjeyemanp1742 Месяц назад +63

    I'm so glad you showed Daredevil, those fights really make you almost feel tired for him, as he throws out a few hits, struggling to keep up with the henchmen that are also taking their time to recover

  • @nathanwilhelm1675
    @nathanwilhelm1675 Месяц назад +173

    THANK YOU for mentioning that Daredevil scene. It emphasizes that, while he has heightened senses, he is still just a man, a man with a job to do and is willing to die for what he believes in.

    • @MarcusFlemmings
      @MarcusFlemmings  Месяц назад +10

      Daredevil was great!

    • @orgANGmo
      @orgANGmo Месяц назад

      Daredevil is good on every sense. I still watch it once a year.

  • @shuikkanen
    @shuikkanen Месяц назад +104

    I just noticed that when the Bride at 15:50 is forced to retreat, Tarantino has her move from right to left in the scene

    • @MarcusFlemmings
      @MarcusFlemmings  Месяц назад +21

      Absolutely love this comment!!!!! Please stick around!

  • @joecarroll6483
    @joecarroll6483 Месяц назад +60

    Neo and Morpheus’s sparring in the first matrix and then also Neo and Smith’s final train station fight are definitely worth analyzing!

    • @MarcusFlemmings
      @MarcusFlemmings  Месяц назад +5

      Good fights! Not a big fan of the 2nd fight, but will deffo be analysed in a video :)

    • @doot978
      @doot978 29 дней назад

      Idk if you saw his newest vid but he covers it, just letting you know!

    • @joecarroll6483
      @joecarroll6483 29 дней назад

      @@doot978 I just did! Great video!

    • @gsimon123
      @gsimon123 21 день назад +1

      I would also at least do a quick shout out to Smith vs Morpheus as well. That short fight they have is brutal and efficient and does a masterful job of showing that while Morpheus is very adept (and we have seen this by how well he handles Neo earlier) even all his skills are completely useless against Smith who savagely beats him into submission. It's part of the story of the fights in that movie. That way, when Neo decides to stop and face Smith at the end ("he's beginning to believe..."), we as the audience know what is at stake. We saw how our boy Morpheus got curbstomped so bad and know Neo is going to be an underdog in this fight!

    • @joecarroll6483
      @joecarroll6483 21 день назад

      @@gsimon123 awesome comment

  • @finniganswiggity
    @finniganswiggity 27 дней назад +20

    Nobodys' choreography even though it has actors that have little to no experience in action, is amazingly subtle with its cuts for the viewer. They are evident yes but highly well done

    • @MarcusFlemmings
      @MarcusFlemmings  27 дней назад +2

      Agreed! I cover this in Volume 4 :) check it out!

  • @TROOPERfarcry
    @TROOPERfarcry Месяц назад +583

    The Spike Lee version of "Old Boy" isn't bad at all. The problem is that it will inevitably be compared to the original Park-Chan Wook version, _and come up short._ It's not an insult to Spike Lee, it's just that the original was a masterpiece with no practical room for improvement.

    • @pabloc8808
      @pabloc8808 Месяц назад +68

      The problem is the original Oldboy hallway sequence works within the narrative; it's both a sad and a brutal movie, and the scene is gritty and realistic: think when the guy stabs Oh Dae-Su, everyone steps back because it's a serious escalation of the violence, and those goons weren't prepared to see that happen. The score makes the scene almost sad or melancholic. So while Spike Lee's version is great when it comes to choreography, it falls short when it comes to everything else, because now it's just "the protagonist is a badass who beats up a bunch of thugs" and we've seen that a thousand times.

    • @casedistorted
      @casedistorted Месяц назад +42

      I have to say Spike Lee's Old Boy is bad. But what can we do. I just don't think Spike Lee really care dabout the movie much.

    • @helloworld14895
      @helloworld14895 Месяц назад +34

      The Spike Lee version is bad in every way. He copies the original and makes every single scene worse

    • @johnmarston1419
      @johnmarston1419 Месяц назад

      What I understand is good. The original is foreign listeristic. I mean, he's getting overpowered and stomped by 20 guys and he's able to stand up through that. Just no, they all have sticks too. And they're just beating the s*** out of him. And what he doesn't feel it, and with a knife in his back. He's still able to do big shoulder spinning turns. Which would you know make the knife twist around in his back?And cause it immense serious pain, discomfort and inability to do much ut he fights like its not even there after getting up

    • @spectre1004
      @spectre1004 Месяц назад

      Wtf are talking about it’s fucking trash. Its worse in every way and makes shitty changes

  • @made_by_sky
    @made_by_sky Месяц назад +36

    Hardcor Henry car chase fight is one of my favourite action scenes ever, and the final battle with all the super soldiers goes hard too

    • @kyze8284
      @kyze8284 24 дня назад +1

      It really got me to have a good time at the end
      I love how good the actor portrayed incredible body control while also having the facial expressions of "oh god I don't want this happening"

  • @fabmax41
    @fabmax41 Месяц назад +128

    I like the fight Achilles versus Hector in Troy, despite the many..."flaws" of this movie.

    • @GuineaPigEveryday
      @GuineaPigEveryday Месяц назад +19

      There was a recent video essay ‘Why Troy Worked’ by Better With Bob that made me realise that the movie really was nowhere near as bad as ppl claim it to be, its not fantastic but i remember it being pretty entertaining and fun to watch

    • @hansbansor5170
      @hansbansor5170 Месяц назад +12

      Yea, that fight is insane. Beautiful choreography and you dont want any of those characters to die.

    • @johnjr578
      @johnjr578 28 дней назад +3

      @@hansbansor5170"Except Paris" lol

  • @clumsothechef
    @clumsothechef Месяц назад +20

    I’ve always really loved the fight in mad max fury road between furiosa and max when they first meet. It’s great not only from a character introduction perspective but the choreography and performance is spectacular too. Every objective is clear, every hit has a purpose, and not one move is wasted. It’s fast, brutal, scrappy, and a perfect showcase of how deadly the two main characters are and how harsh their world is.

  • @enlightenmentdoesntcomeeas5337
    @enlightenmentdoesntcomeeas5337 Месяц назад +140

    Personaly the amount of destruction in the final fight of MoS makes sense these are literally gods with superpowers fighting each other after all.

    • @kahlzun
      @kahlzun Месяц назад +31

      i didnt mind Man Of Steel myself

    • @maximiliangeiger169
      @maximiliangeiger169 Месяц назад +34

      The action was actually one thing I liked about MoS. Very dragon ball-esque to an extent. However the emotional weight behind the fight is still lacking because of everything. that was gotten wrong about the character up to that point.

    • @negative6442
      @negative6442 Месяц назад +6

      Honestly I thought the massive gravity machine the Kryptonians were using was so damn cool. Still think that, actually.

    • @artwithmichael5547
      @artwithmichael5547 Месяц назад +4

      The point is it doesn’t make for good viewing. Realism isn’t everything.

    • @MadHax-wt5tl
      @MadHax-wt5tl Месяц назад +8

      @@artwithmichael5547 Well it always depends on the movie, in something dark and gritty you want the action to stay grounded.
      But if they did that in a big spectacular super hero movie, it'd be pretty disappointing.
      I'm just glad in Man of Steel, they finally did a Superman movie, where they utilised all the modern special effect technology, to give the character the wack bang pow fight he deserved.

  • @completelynobody4153
    @completelynobody4153 Месяц назад +9

    As soon as UPGRADE entered the frame, you got a sub from me.

  • @adamoz9090
    @adamoz9090 Месяц назад +55

    Jason Statham is an incredible movie fighter. He has many movies where his fights are great and shot very well, and he has other movies where the skill is there but the filmmaking is not on the same level.
    I'd also make it a point that restraint in using a fight scene or using brutality out of the gate until it's absolutely necessary for the character makes it all the more impactful. I always think of Transporter 1, where Statham is obviously shown to be a badass, but doesn't hit super hard until the bad guys blow up his car, which seriously offends him and makes us root for him to kick ass as well.

    • @LastBastian
      @LastBastian Месяц назад +8

      Transporter 1 is great. The "oil slick fight" was especially fun, imo!

    • @randomsmile9064
      @randomsmile9064 Месяц назад +3

      its a great reason why more action movies need to use actors that know how to fight along with stuntment that know how to fight .. you can make really good fight scenes without the need for cuts in the scenes.. also they know how to actually throw punches and stuff and actually look like they can fight..

  • @SocialBobcat
    @SocialBobcat Месяц назад +28

    3:59 nitpicking here, but that's just kinda close to a Wilhelm scream, not the actual Wilhelm scream sound clip that's been used in countless movies

    • @chananabips7009
      @chananabips7009 Месяц назад +1

      right? I noticed too that it sounded different

    • @kyze8284
      @kyze8284 24 дня назад +3

      Yea this one was an AyaaaHHHHHH as opposed to the AAAAAOOOOUUUHHHHH of good ol Wilhelm

    • @K.A.Z.
      @K.A.Z. 22 дня назад +1

      True,still I bet it was inspired by the real one,cause is way too exaggerated

    • @cooldude3859
      @cooldude3859 14 дней назад

      I was going to say the same thing but it’s definitely inspired and changed to fit the ethnicity or language idk

  • @71705558a
    @71705558a Месяц назад +14

    The fight scenes in Danny the Dog/Unleashed with Jet Li work so well because, as you point out is necessary, you care about the characters. It's the rare fight movie where you kind of feel bad that the protagonist has to kick ass.

  • @moemama6009
    @moemama6009 29 дней назад +6

    0:56 so you're just gonna brush over the greatest action sequence in the history of cinema?

  • @Wynner3
    @Wynner3 Месяц назад +19

    One of my favorite and most memorable fight scenes in a movie is from The Transporter. Jason Statham against several guys in a bus depot while covered in oil or grease.

    • @MarcusFlemmings
      @MarcusFlemmings  Месяц назад +2

      I've not seen it!

    • @Maverickib
      @Maverickib Месяц назад +3

      The scene where he barges in the house to get back at them for blowing up his car is also extremely sharp. Every movement he makes is precise. It's a masterclass in telling a story and building a character within an action scene.

    • @Maverickib
      @Maverickib Месяц назад

      @@MarcusFlemmings Has multiple good scenes. Worth a watch.

    • @randomsmile9064
      @randomsmile9064 Месяц назад

      more movies need to use actors that actually know how to fight.. along with stuntment that know how to fight.. it makes fights so much better overall without any need to cut fight scenes up..

    • @pivorocks
      @pivorocks 16 дней назад

      The bike pedals as grips, love it. Can’t forget the house invasion with the funky music. I like the fights in all 3 movies xD

  • @sofuzzywuzzy
    @sofuzzywuzzy Месяц назад +7

    The common theme between the good fight scenes is that it shows the realism of a fight, the protagonist actually getting hit and feeling the damage, and the fighters getting tired as a whole.
    It allows the viewer to actually imagine themselves in that situation, engrossing them in the movie far more than something like a comic book movie.

  • @Dog15308
    @Dog15308 Месяц назад +31

    I remember I watched the Josh brolin old boy thinking it was the original one.

    • @JohnyLMS
      @JohnyLMS Месяц назад +5

      I feel so sorry for you :(

    • @John_Notmylastname
      @John_Notmylastname Месяц назад

      Oh no! Lol

    • @moehammoud1
      @moehammoud1 Месяц назад +1

      seeing the fight scene really highlights how bad the film is. great fight scene in an otherwise bad film.

    • @Walthu_99.5
      @Walthu_99.5 23 дня назад

      ​@@moehammoud1it wasn't bad at all. It gets compared to the original masterpiece that has basically nothing to surpass because it's perfect

    • @pivorocks
      @pivorocks 16 дней назад

      Almost better that way imo, as long as you found the original and got to be surprised about a better version.

  • @frankharris4876
    @frankharris4876 25 дней назад +5

    love all of this so much, but hey now I thought that Shang Chi fight scene was a great introduction to his character being able to fight, it was clear and fun/funny

  • @monkeymon81
    @monkeymon81 Месяц назад +9

    Personal opinion on spike Lee's old boy is I never felt Josh Brolin was in danger in the fight

    • @andrzejnadgirl2029
      @andrzejnadgirl2029 Месяц назад +2

      Yup, hus body language was full confidence all the time there. Tank moving to it's destination.

    • @aaronleverton4221
      @aaronleverton4221 Месяц назад +1

      He was hit in the back with a baseball bat at full-strength swing how many times and he felt...nothing? A quarter of the way through that fight a man would be on the floor, incapable of moving.

    • @Walthu_99.5
      @Walthu_99.5 23 дня назад

      ​so the original oldboy fight having a man fight 40 people is realistic but this isn't@@aaronleverton4221

  • @marcomartinez8649
    @marcomartinez8649 25 дней назад +3

    You got to love the Upgrade shoutout. One of the most underrated ever

  • @SewerTapes
    @SewerTapes Месяц назад +16

    How deep have you analyzed that Steven Seagal vs Mike Tyson scene in The China Salesman? I'm convinced the two men were NEVER on set together, and it's all just compositing, bad editing, and doubles. It's a rabbit hole I cannot escape, and the more times I see the scene, the more convinced I become.

    • @simonfeilder
      @simonfeilder Месяц назад +3

      You are correct 🤓

    • @SewerTapes
      @SewerTapes Месяц назад +2

      @@simonfeilder
      It's wild, man. I almost (almost) want to get an HD copy to see it without RUclips compression.

    • @RoaringTide
      @RoaringTide Месяц назад +2

      I've never seen the movie before and didn't know that scene existed, and when I saw it in this video I was legitimately like "...is this AI?"

    • @SewerTapes
      @SewerTapes Месяц назад

      @@RoaringTide
      Yeah, it's weird as hell.

  • @simonfeilder
    @simonfeilder Месяц назад +8

    Great to see Upgrade getting some love for it's very unique action. Recent genre recommends: 'Life After Fighting', 'Kill' & 'Twilight of the Warriors: Walled In' 🤓

  • @ronaldbell7429
    @ronaldbell7429 9 дней назад +1

    Brandon Lee's movie "Rapid Fire." Some of my favorite fight scenes. He also does a wonderful job of showing you the exhaustion, and the "pushing through it" stuff. The other fighters in the movie were also outstanding.

  • @optimisticosfan4371
    @optimisticosfan4371 Месяц назад +13

    Respectfully... Man of Steel should NEVER appear in a bad movie fights video. I think everyone can agree that was the greatest strength of the movie.

    • @MarcusFlemmings
      @MarcusFlemmings  Месяц назад +5

      It's actually the weak point of the film. The parts I rolled my eyes at the most!

    • @optimisticosfan4371
      @optimisticosfan4371 Месяц назад +2

      @@MarcusFlemmings there's no way lol

    • @MarcusFlemmings
      @MarcusFlemmings  Месяц назад

      @@optimisticosfan4371 🤣🤣🤣

    • @monstergeek1613
      @monstergeek1613 Месяц назад +2

      ​@@MarcusFlemmingsI will take up the defense of this fight.You've already said that seeking realism at all costs should not be the ultimate goal of a director because it's cinema anyway. And I agree except that the concept of the film (superman) is already very fanciful and can only happen in the cinema. So putting realism in there allows you to create a contrast that serves the themes of the film and makes it easier to make us believe in this superhero story. You also say that it undermines the dramaturgical issues. On the contrary, I find that it serves them. In the previous scene, Zod said that he was going to massacre all the earthlings and that Kal El won't be able to stop it. So the fact that we don't understand much allows us to show Superpan's feelings when faced with Zod who is totally dominated and cannot manage the situation. The realism of this scene also allows us to emphasize the brutality of the combat, which increases the stakes and makes us feel the extent of the villain's hatred, which makes us understand that he must be stopped at all costs, which leads to the end of the fight and the death of Zod. So I find that this staging serves the film and does not undermine it, contrary to what you seem to think.

    • @MarcusFlemmings
      @MarcusFlemmings  Месяц назад +1

      @@monstergeek1613 I hate to be THAT guy, but this film didn't do any of that, on a drama level, the actual facts (apart from my opinion) backs this up. Hence the film was not the success they wanted (Critically) and the DCEU was wrapped up early. Unfortunately, Zack Synder, as a narrative story teller is not a great director.

  • @RuBiSCo_YT
    @RuBiSCo_YT Месяц назад +12

    congrats on 20k! Also, personally, one of my favorite fight scenes is the bus from Nobody.

    • @RuBiSCo_YT
      @RuBiSCo_YT Месяц назад +4

      god i would sacrifice my firstborn to hear you talk about the bus scene

    • @t-7777
      @t-7777 Месяц назад

      Oh, I love that fight scene too
      It's one of my favourites

    • @birajsingha9879
      @birajsingha9879 Месяц назад

      ​@@RuBiSCo_YT 😂

  • @OzanBurada
    @OzanBurada Месяц назад +3

    What I really love about Daredevil fight scene is that you can see them getting tired and sloppy as the fight goes on. It takes a toll on them. First season was really a masterpiece.
    Also, people read the comic Oldboy. It is good.
    Arcane is amazing work. Story, animation, music combined in such a well done manner.
    Still, there's only one Hardcore Henry.

  • @alexlingle2213
    @alexlingle2213 15 дней назад

    The Luke vs Vader scene carries so much weight. Even just the short clip you show in this drips with the emotion and stakes that are conveyed by their battle & dialogue. Almost brings me to tears. I think bad or mediocre films forget that all the composite parts - fight choreography, lighting & cinematography, performance - all these serve only as storytelling mechanisms. When the mechanism becomes the point rather than the story itself, the film loses its way.

  • @luismdgr
    @luismdgr Месяц назад +14

    You should make a comparison between Steven Seagal fights and some other bad fights for April Fool's Day

  • @woodenotaku
    @woodenotaku Месяц назад +3

    While not a barehanded fight scene, the chainsaw duel from the end of Tiger on the Beat absolutely deservers a mention among the greatest movie fights of all time.

  • @optimascrime5235
    @optimascrime5235 Месяц назад +2

    Arcane is the reason why I want a big budget animated Batman movie, for the Vishnul's and what they could do with the fight scenes

  • @chanceroberson7517
    @chanceroberson7517 14 дней назад

    I love the idea of daredevil mid fight throwing a microwave as hard as he can mid fight

  • @NuggetMan222
    @NuggetMan222 17 дней назад

    a good fight id like to see you cover is one where its not really a fight more so then a beating and that's the end of invisible, but the drama and shocking nature behind it makes it memorable

  • @NeeMaarLekker_Films
    @NeeMaarLekker_Films Месяц назад +2

    14:00 Arnold? Is that you?

  • @valentincelestite9861
    @valentincelestite9861 Месяц назад +26

    It’s so frustrating when you’re like "yeah you see this really cool fight scene ? Well it’s TV so we are moving on" Like Arcane may be a TV show but I know a whole lot of movie which doesn’t come close to be look and feel this good

    • @MarcusFlemmings
      @MarcusFlemmings  Месяц назад +5

      Indeed! I agree, but the title of the series is BAD MOVIE FIGHTS vs GOOD MOVIE FIGHTS ;-) just staying true to the title! Thanks for the comment as well :)

    • @joeallen3388
      @joeallen3388 Месяц назад +1

      @@MarcusFlemmings Maybe make it good and bad media fights or something more catchy because theres so many great fights in TV in recent years.

    • @MarcusFlemmings
      @MarcusFlemmings  Месяц назад

      @@joeallen3388 won't change the name, but much like how I've done so far I'll probably include TV fights as well, but just flag them out as TV :)

    • @jase276
      @jase276 Месяц назад

      The arcane fight scene has great animation but the actual fight scene was pretty bad. Idk why people praise it, it has all of the hallmarks of "bad fight scenes". Shaky camera, a million cuts, and the worst aggressor of all, the camera/composition is WAY too zoomed in. Now, there's two reasons I can see for this: lack of good choreography and cutting down costs by zooming in to animate less. Look at any Mob Psycho 100 fight and THAT'S how an animated fight scene should truly look.

    • @mainsource8030
      @mainsource8030 15 дней назад

      @@MarcusFlemmings daredevil, echo and punisher are all tv as well, SOOO what gives?

  • @Nihilful
    @Nihilful 24 дня назад

    I was waiting for you to mention the church scene from Kingsman. I didn't really like that movie but that fight scene should be taught in film school and I was rather disappointed you didn't go into detalis in that one. You are correct that there are jump cuts - however those are not jump cuts to hide lack of training or blows being landed because you see all of those clearly, they are there to support the kinetic chaos that ensues.
    The camera movement following the protagonsit, jumping together with him and dropping down when falls, the brtual violence, the music, the choreographed chaos. It is a masterclass of action scenes.

    • @MarcusFlemmings
      @MarcusFlemmings  24 дня назад

      Yeah, it's good for sure! The jumps are there to stitch the cuts :) but yeah, with that comes a kinetic feeling and visa versa!

  • @juggram_99
    @juggram_99 Месяц назад +2

    One of my favorite fights (besides Raid 1 and 2 main fights) are the ones from "The Night Comes For Us" which has Iko Uwais as the antagonist and the fight scenes have pretty much the essence of what Gareth Evans did in The Raid movies.
    Another example i can think of is Red vs Blue, it's mostly a Machinima yes, but there are certain parts of the series that were animated 3D and for the fight scenes (and i mean until Monty Oum died, who was the guy in charge of making these choreographies) were really good, and its quite amazing that very few works can be at the level of what Monty Oum did. Of course, his animations weren't perfect, rendering issues and some weird cuts that will hardly ever be noticed by the first time you watch them, and also attack moves that are just straight bullshit defying the laws of physics, but still, it is worth knowing that i was being made by an indie studio some 14 years ago and i will still say it how it amazes me that very few works can be compared to Red vs Blue fight scenes (anyone interested in checking it out, a guy made a 1 hour compilation of the action scenes in the series, just don't watch the last fights since it is where the quality dropped by a lot since the death of the main animator for these fight scenes)

  • @jaesjmes5498
    @jaesjmes5498 Месяц назад

    HE FINALLY GOT TO IT!! I didn't think he'd talk about the daredevil hallway scene since it's a show but i'm glad he covered it

  • @FemThem
    @FemThem Месяц назад +1

    I love how Green Room handles violence and human thought process during stressful situations. That could be a good lesser talked about one.

    • @MarcusFlemmings
      @MarcusFlemmings  Месяц назад

      This is a great shout for a horror video...not so much fight video, I would say!

  • @iordanec
    @iordanec 15 дней назад

    13:01 - 13:04 USSR Belarus film that called "Come and See" 1985. Really emotional and deep

  • @alonvx2
    @alonvx2 Месяц назад

    Sp happy to see upgrade scenes here, I want more movies like that

    • @MarcusFlemmings
      @MarcusFlemmings  29 дней назад

      Me too! The invisible Man, the director's film after that is good!

  • @carlitosortiz6621
    @carlitosortiz6621 15 дней назад

    I’m happy to see upgrade mentioned in this video

  • @declangenova7611
    @declangenova7611 Месяц назад +1

    I think Code 8 has decent fights. Its a pretty unique movie involving various mutants that have specific abilities like electricity.

  • @sgtlaughter
    @sgtlaughter Месяц назад +1

    Vol 4 just gonna be the fight scene from "They Live".

  • @John_Notmylastname
    @John_Notmylastname Месяц назад +1

    Upgrade RULES. Such a great film and suggest everyone to see it. Incredible fight scenes.

  • @RayLeehar
    @RayLeehar Месяц назад

    Also the one shot boxing scene in Creed (2015), the crazy MMA scene in Cradle 2 The Grave with Jet Li and DMX, Brandon Lee vs. Al Leong in Rapid Fire

  • @manonymous4737
    @manonymous4737 19 дней назад

    You can't begrudge them - there was a time, long long ago, when even YOU heard about the Wilhelm scream for the first time

  • @ZiKayOG
    @ZiKayOG 13 дней назад

    Bro Rurouni Kenshin deserves a chance, that movie gave me tingles

  • @Jer-7007
    @Jer-7007 Месяц назад

    You are right about the screen left to screen right thing, but there's more to it than that. Because we Westerners read from left to right, it just seems more natural to our brains when things move in that direction on screen. But there is a reason why things sometimes move right to left. It can be that the Director doesn't know what he's doing...but if it's a good Director, he is intentionally trying to make you feel unsettled or uneasy when things move that way. Your subconscious is supposed to sense that something isn't right. Remember, the left hand margin on a page of text is always fixed - but the right hand length of text can go on to whatever length will fit on the page. Therefore, when things move from right to left on a movie screen, we sense that someone is moving toward a hard margin. Which means they could be moving into a trap. Or some other ominous situation.

  • @MitraKesava
    @MitraKesava 10 дней назад

    I just started playing Sifu last week and it got me to start watching my favorite Kung Fu flicks again. Just watched Oldboy last night and came to your channel (I'd only seen Vol 1 so far) to see if you had covered Oldboy --> Daredevil --> Sifu and you did! Such a perfect feeling.

    • @MarcusFlemmings
      @MarcusFlemmings  10 дней назад

      Might be a controversial, but I think Sifu is my fave game ever!

    • @MitraKesava
      @MitraKesava 9 дней назад

      @@MarcusFlemmings I don't think that's controversal especially if you like action movies this much, it's a literal love letter to hand to hand combat films. As a longtime gamer, Sifu has quickly risen to one of my faves of all time as well.
      Also I know you're not big on animation but I will say that Blue Eye Samurai is an excellent companion to Sifu and has some really good fights with cinematic fluidity even for animation. "Blue eye samurai dojo gets humbled" its a really good example.

    • @MarcusFlemmings
      @MarcusFlemmings  9 дней назад

      @@MitraKesava So I haven't got an issue with animation, per se. I just prefer live action. However, Blue Eye Samurai is incredible! I featured a clip on this video or the one before.

  • @tylerviloria4699
    @tylerviloria4699 21 день назад

    The kinsman fight scene is amazing and no one can tell me otherwise

  • @Royalistinexile
    @Royalistinexile Месяц назад +1

    Very glad I found your channel! So hard to find something of value on youtube nowadays.

  • @alexanderchippel
    @alexanderchippel 25 дней назад

    The 2013 Oldboy fight doesn't eork because if how much space there is. It makes sense that they can't all attack at ince in the original, but you just see people stand around and swing at nothing.

  • @Synthetic-Rabbit
    @Synthetic-Rabbit 12 дней назад

    As someone who watched Oldboy probably 13 years ago.. I knew exactly where it was inspired from lol.
    I've also seen the entire "Vengeance Trilogy" which I highly recommend.

    • @MarcusFlemmings
      @MarcusFlemmings  12 дней назад +1

      The first isn't the best, Oldboy is fab! Lady Vengeance is okay but style over substance!

    • @Synthetic-Rabbit
      @Synthetic-Rabbit 12 дней назад

      @@MarcusFlemmings Oldboy is the best IMO. I very much liked Mr. Vengeance with Mrs. being my third favorite but I enjoyed them all.

  • @ibuporfiado
    @ibuporfiado Месяц назад

    John Wick first 1, the club fight, magnific.

  • @WhyteNoize859
    @WhyteNoize859 Месяц назад +2

    Congrats on 20,000 subs Marcus and thank you for another awesome video!!!!! Big Love 🫶

  • @ageb99
    @ageb99 Месяц назад

    Any of the fight scenes from banshee, the fight with Burton is a standout. Many good ones from that show

    • @MarcusFlemmings
      @MarcusFlemmings  29 дней назад +1

      Banshee was fun! But also TV :-D Watch volume 4, out tonight in 2 hours!

  • @djhutchison
    @djhutchison Месяц назад +1

    4:40 It's interesting that you mention the idea of the protagonist often being shown moving from left to right in film. In _Infinity War,_ Thanos is often depicted moving from left to right throughout the film.

    • @MarcusFlemmings
      @MarcusFlemmings  Месяц назад +3

      Love this comment! He does indeed - it's his story. Infinity War is stunning!

  • @Desmodontidae78
    @Desmodontidae78 14 дней назад

    I am 100% that filmmaking should minimize it's video game-inspired camerawork and choreography. It is nearly always a bad choice and pushes the viewer out of the scene. It corrupts the illusion of disbelief by feeling like a video game, and film should NEVER feel like a game.

  • @stevecolangelo6433
    @stevecolangelo6433 Месяц назад

    I would love to see you cover the duel between Ahsoka and Maul in the Siege of Mandalore arc in the Clone Wars. It's animated but for this fight specifically they mocapped Ray Park for Maul and another martial artist for Ahsoka

  • @koolconnoriskool3406
    @koolconnoriskool3406 23 дня назад

    Great video, I love when you touch on the context outside of the fight showing what makes it strong and comparing the standard film style relative to the fight. This comes up mostly in the old boy original cut, when you showed the cuts of the og film cuts I felt chills. This is mostly due to the strength of the og film but your editing was great and this great editing continued throughout the vid. I'd love for you to evolve the series into what is the heart of good fight scenes instead of breading down bad ones.

  • @unknownpowfu2052
    @unknownpowfu2052 Месяц назад +1

    I would love for him to cover the Matrix fight scenes, Mostly from the final confrontation of Neo and Agent Smith, would love this! You're videos are so creative and interesting to watch on my night shifts, keep up the good work!

  • @Maggerama
    @Maggerama Месяц назад +1

    Brawl In Cell Block 99 has a few cool fights you might be interested in.

  • @elementblue780
    @elementblue780 23 дня назад

    Every time there's a fight scene in a hallway or a scene done in one take, it's always apparently "hugely inspired by Oldboy".

  • @danielstuard370
    @danielstuard370 Месяц назад

    the saber duel from the deluge

  • @electrical_blast
    @electrical_blast Месяц назад +4

    Whilst it is yet another tv show, id love to see what you think of the fight at the beginning of episode 4 of the Korean show "Bloodhounds", I also recommend for you (and anyone reading) to watch bloodhounds if you haven't already.

  • @DuesenbergJ
    @DuesenbergJ 16 дней назад

    The fight scene in Atomic Blond is bad because it brakes Suspension of disbelief. It would work if she was some kind of superhero but she isn’t.

  • @darkcabinproductions4575
    @darkcabinproductions4575 21 день назад

    The spike Lee old boy fight scene is a actual good fight scene in my opinion, I also loved the Ben affleck daredevil play fight scene lol it was fitting for the vibe in that scene.

    • @MarcusFlemmings
      @MarcusFlemmings  21 день назад

      Pahahaha! No comment re: Daredevil

    • @darkcabinproductions4575
      @darkcabinproductions4575 21 день назад

      @@MarcusFlemmings lmao I mean it was cheesy as hell but that’s something I miss from those early 2,000’s movies

  • @BT4282
    @BT4282 Месяц назад

    Be really interesting to see an episode focused on boxing/mma/martial arts tournament fight scenes. Maybe throw in Real Steel as a dark horse as well. Be interesting because in a lot of ways they tend to be emotional as well as physical fights, and how the fighters are presented in the ring has to be effectively tied to their emotional state and journey throughout the film.

    • @MarcusFlemmings
      @MarcusFlemmings  Месяц назад +1

      The next video will go close to that subject :)

  • @odnalcal4241
    @odnalcal4241 20 дней назад

    Of course, you have to talk about the Willem scream 😉

  • @kristiangustafson4130
    @kristiangustafson4130 20 дней назад

    Ah mate you did Upgrade! Thanks, that was my suggestion! Good stuff.

  • @optimascrime5235
    @optimascrime5235 Месяц назад +1

    Whilst not all of them we're amazing I was quite impressed with the fight scenes in the Deadpool and Wolverine film and also that new Batman cartoon Caped Crusader had some neat looking fight scenes for an animated show....I'm not into super hero media like I use to but when they Hit they Hit!!!!!

    • @MarcusFlemmings
      @MarcusFlemmings  Месяц назад +1

      Love his comment! The Deadpool fights were good!

  • @danielhance1467
    @danielhance1467 2 дня назад

    Upgrade is next level right choreography

  • @MatthewGhirardi
    @MatthewGhirardi 27 дней назад +1

    At least the fight in Spike Lee’s Oldboy wasn’t choppy

    • @MarcusFlemmings
      @MarcusFlemmings  26 дней назад

      It wasn't a bad fight at all! Just in comparison, it doesn't come closer!

  • @itszaque5031
    @itszaque5031 29 дней назад

    SO glad you covered Upgrade!! One of my favorite movies, it's wild to me more people haven't seen this film.

  • @Stray713
    @Stray713 Месяц назад

    Been really enjoying your videos, Marcus. Thanks so much for sharing not just great scenes, but your thoughts too. I'm looking forward to the next in the series!

  • @Chrissepisje
    @Chrissepisje 21 день назад

    I've never understood the fascination with Bruce Lee. It's strikes me as more of a caricature than the Austin Powers bit with the roller.

  • @jonrwert
    @jonrwert 28 дней назад

    Batman the Animated Series from the 90's has great story-telling fights. The choreography is usually pretty cheesy but you see how Batman is holding back to various degrees to KO the bad guy but not seriously hurt them, most of the time.

    • @MarcusFlemmings
      @MarcusFlemmings  28 дней назад

      Not seen it , but may check it out! Thanks for the comment and do stick around :)

  • @bigstonez1125
    @bigstonez1125 Месяц назад +1

    Hardcore Henry was such a fun move! And Nobody was so incredibly cool!

  • @RayLeehar
    @RayLeehar Месяц назад

    Hey, Marcus, the scene in Matt Reeves' The Batman when ' 'Vengeance' fights those thugs on the subway platform was a great fight scene, Timothee Chalamet and Austin Butler's scene in Dune:Part 2, Bane & Batman in that underground bunker(?) in The Dark Knight Rises, Bruce Lee vs. Han in Enter the Dragon (in the mirror room), and when Hobbs and Shaw fought for the first time in Furious 7, just to name a few.

    • @MarcusFlemmings
      @MarcusFlemmings  Месяц назад

      Love these! You may be getting a couple of those in VOLUME 4 tomorrow ;-)

  • @barbaricbri
    @barbaricbri 29 дней назад

    Dude the punisher and daredevil shows are INCREDIBLE

    • @MarcusFlemmings
      @MarcusFlemmings  29 дней назад

      Check out Volume 4 for Punisher! ruclips.net/video/NtjI0NGvdp8/видео.html&lc=UgwWZwXqE-8S59-Ry9t4AaABAg&themeRefresh=1

  • @snipsnip8785
    @snipsnip8785 17 дней назад +2

    8:14 what movie is this?
    found it. Its called *UPGRADE (2018)*

  • @RoaringTide
    @RoaringTide Месяц назад

    Something I've always preferred about animation when it comes to fight scenes is that it doesn't suffer from the problem of actors clearly waiting to be hit, or not looking like they're REALLY trying to kill each other. There are certainly movies that pull it off, but with animation you can do anything.

  • @MrKaje72
    @MrKaje72 Месяц назад

    To clarify: Daredevil w/ Ben Affleck was an early 2000s film. It was when comic films were kind of findjng themselves. That fight scene particular between Affleck and Gardner is a fight between Daredevil and his love interest Elektra. They arent just “play-flighting” they’re flirting. It’s simple on purpose. The scene couldve been better, sure. But it needs context I think

    • @MarcusFlemmings
      @MarcusFlemmings  Месяц назад

      I know all this already, but it's still an awful scene (and film) by now Spiderman 1 and 2, plus Blade had already been out - much better films, much better fight sequences!

  • @celondelon351
    @celondelon351 Месяц назад

    Some of my favourite fight scenes are featured in this video the corridor scene from Old Boy, the church fight (i also love the pub fight) in The Kingsman and the restaurant scene in Kill Bill, others are Wayman with his bag and Jobu with the sex toys, in Everything Everywhere All At Once, The Axe Gang attack in Kung Fu Hustle, the snake venom assassin in Bullet Train.

    • @MarcusFlemmings
      @MarcusFlemmings  Месяц назад +1

      Not a fan of Bullet Train - but the other choices are excellent!

  • @Huhmasta
    @Huhmasta 14 дней назад

    You're actually wrong about daredevil, it was confirmed in numerous interviews to be a true one continous cut fight scene, they had to perfectly time when to switch out the stunt double and Charlie Cox between the falling into the rooms. Season 2 has confirmed hidden cuts

  • @patriciojimenez8560
    @patriciojimenez8560 Месяц назад +7

    You could create a whole video just talking about Duel of the Fates bro, it deserved at least a specific part of this video.

  • @legomilk
    @legomilk Месяц назад

    You should review the Lethal Weapon 4 final fight. It seems like a quite regular or even a bad fight scene but when you have seen the entire franchise, you understand the implications of the fight and how Mel Gibson and Danny Glover could beat Jet Lee due to their long relationship as partners and you can see all their care for each other and their coordination during the fight

  • @ThundaFuzz
    @ThundaFuzz Месяц назад

    I absolutely love the fight scenes in Upgrade. The stylistic choice to make the camera feel "robotic" when STEM takes over is the cherry on top.

  • @joaquingarcia2250
    @joaquingarcia2250 Месяц назад +1

    Take a look at Ong Bak’s and The Protector’s fight scenes

    • @MarcusFlemmings
      @MarcusFlemmings  29 дней назад +1

      I might explore this properly in Volume 4, releasing in 2 hours :)

  • @forkdude7853
    @forkdude7853 Месяц назад

    I'd say I prefer the daredevil hallway fight over the oldboy one mostly because it avoided the issue of having 5 people standing around waiting their turn. in the oldboy one, they could so easily just gang up on him

    • @MarcusFlemmings
      @MarcusFlemmings  29 дней назад

      I don't agree, that it's better....but it's good!

  • @charlycolis9811
    @charlycolis9811 Месяц назад

    Simply LOVE fight between Daredevil and Electra in their street clothes🤩🤩 So much narrated there. One of my favorite Superhero movies anyway

  • @owentourtelotte4094
    @owentourtelotte4094 Месяц назад

    though it technically breaks the rules due to guns in the first half, i'd love your take on the stairwell fight from No Time to Die

    • @MarcusFlemmings
      @MarcusFlemmings  29 дней назад

      Ooooooo, interesting shout! BUT wow, a LOT of guns in that scene!

  • @jacks0wasted0life
    @jacks0wasted0life Месяц назад

    I really liked "Bullet Train" movie. But it seemed like some fight scenes were good while some were pretty bad.

  • @hodder200
    @hodder200 Месяц назад +1

    If we're allowed to include guns now I'd love to hear your take on Gareth Evan's farmhouse assault scene from Gangs of London (season 1, episode 5)

  • @tarikR.R.5120
    @tarikR.R.5120 25 дней назад

    The last big fight scene in kiss of the Dragon